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Stewart Armstrong Copeland is a musician and composer, best known as the former drummer for the English rock band The Police, and for his film and video game soundtracks. Copeland has also written various pieces of music for ballet, opera and orchestra. According to MusicRadar, Copeland’s "distinctive drum sound and uniqueness of style has made him one of the most popular drummers to ever get behind a drumset. He was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as a member of the Police in 2003, the Modern Drummer Hall of Fame in 2005, and the Classic Drummer Hall of Fame in 2013. In 2016, Copeland was ranked 10th on Rolling Stone's "100 Greatest Drummers of All Time".
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I like how Stewart exposes the “drum worship” that is so common. Over analyzing a drum fill…
One of the things I enjoyed about the various reunion documentaries is them re-imagining some of the songs as they rehearse. It surprised me but given what he says here it makes complete sense.
The tension between Sting's pro show/perfectionist tendencies and Stew's "just keep the thing alive and in the moment" style really keeps those now old tunes fresh.
That is true, and Andy Summers is in the middle of those two approaches.
@@ThaiThom andy really is the glue lmao
Exactly, that dichotomy is what made the band so special and why none of the members could recreate that magic in their solo careers. The other side of the coin is that it was also the reason why they broke up.
Reveals the genius of Sting from one of the greatest drummers.
This guy has been one of my heroes since 1979. Heroes, for me, have come and gone. Not this guy. Thank God for Stewart Copeland. Icon.
So much energy and he’s going on 70! Andy summers is almost 80!
Years back, I went in to a small blues club in Washington d.c. to experience Andy's jazz trio ( drummer was literally sick, but one of the most amazing drummers ever ). I try to see all the great guitarists, and Andy Summers has some awesome chordwork going on. I got there early. Andy wasn't too happy. He arrived late to his hotel that day, and they had given his room away. Had to go somewhere else. I go up stairs before the show, place is tiny, to take a leak. Bathroom has two urinals. I take my spot, and Andy walks up to the other spot. Now I've talked to all kinds of folks from Kings to international terrorists. When will I ever have another chance to talk to Andy Summers, and what will I say? I try to be a bit of a funny jerk at times, so the best thing I could say to him was, as I turn my head to look at his face, "I'm excited to be here". He looked at me and just shook his head. Perhaps if he had had a better day, he might have found it funny. He couldn't escape me, as I had the table closest to the stage. LOL!
Don’t remind us :(
No but seriously Stewart looks great for his age, he looks like a 40 year old lol
We used to go see Summers up at the 'Trancas Cafe(?)' with a sect of like minded musical wizards. Wonderful stuff. Brilliant funny guy as well...
@@luvyesmusici4886 Hahahahaha too funny
I'd like to know what Stewart puts in his coffee every morning...anyway, he's a genius drummer!
The extraordinary story about Murder by Numbers is 100 percent true. No exaggeration by Copeland. Recently Hugh Padgham, the producer Copeland mentioned, told that same story. Even Padgham, a veteran of many hit albums, was flabbergasted that they would accomplish that great song in one take about 20 minutes after the the first conversation started. At that point the Police had performed more than 400 concerts and were deep into album No. 5. They were a powerful music production machine.
I'm not even a drummer and this video put a fire in my belly. What an absolute legend!
_Regatta de Blanc_ is an integral part of my life. The track "Regatta de Blanc" sounds precisely 1979 and timeless simultaneously.
My favourite track of theirs. I used to work in a burger joint and nearly wrecked the hot plate hammering the drum part out on it.
I could listen to Stewart talk all day. Amazing. In 1984I was a busboy in a restaurant where the police ate before the show, at the Club Montreal, the day before they played the Olympic stadium. They were cool. I saw both shows and they blew my mind. At that time they were the greatest band in the world.
Dig this cat. Great story teller- No one talks about his autobiography which *he* reads on the audio version; go get it..
this just proves it - Stewart's most immense skill and talent comes from his outstanding and uber tasteful FEEL. He could nail what the song required and benefitted from right away, which is ridiculously inhuman. One of these days I wish he would go back and practice the songs the way he wrote them initially and see if he can match it today haha - they are classics for a reason. I love his recorded drumming so much more than his live, but I love his live energy and what he brings to the performance.
Spot on!
I am so glad he teaches. He reminds me of an engineer I knew that was so talented and 73% comedian. The flaws are what makes great music great...
Stewart could talk about paint drying and make it so interesting you would want to go paint a wall just to watch it dry and dwell on his philosophy
He's always been a great story teller. I love when he talks about the fights with Sting
Stewart is so cool and so down to earth. Always a pleasure to listen to him.
Phil Collins talks about the famous drum fill that leads out of the acapella in 'In The Air Tonight'. It's been so overly analyzed over the years because of how iconic it is. Phil admits that particular drum fill that ended up on the album just happened to be the one he played at the moment they decided they were satisfied with the track. It wasn't some carefully crafted drum fill. He played several different drum fills during the formulation of the song. All were perfectly acceptable. Of course they were. We're talking about Phil Collins. But the one that ended up on the album is hailed as the drum fill of all drum fills. It's not a very complicated drum fill. Even Phil is perplexed at how popular that drum fill became. He stated himself that it is a very pedestrian drum fill that he simply played on the fly because they were doing so many takes of the song in their attempts to get the whole song just right. It just happened to be the one that made the album.
Fun Fact!
Is that the same interview where he described as it as having become, "the noose around my neck"?
@@mantaishere - It's possible. It was an interview from many years ago. Phil spoke of how ordinary and simple that particular drum fill is. Hell, I can pound out that drum fill on my desk with my hands and I'm not even a drummer. On several occasions he did speak of being very weary of being asked about it every time he did an interview. Imagine a guy like Phil Collins - a drumming phenom - constantly answering questions about one of the most pedestrian drum fills ever.
I think the reason it's so iconic is that it's both easy and unique. It sounds bitchin', it's incredibly well placed within the song, it has centre stage, and anyone can play it. They weren't thinking about that when they made the song, but that's why it's so successful.
I've heard this story since the mid 80s, that he'd lay down the drums within minutes of hearing it. X Factor indeed.
It's how it happens a lot. It's not unique to track fast.
@@morbidmanmusic It might happen a lot (saying that after just recording 2 demos I never saw before today) but how often does it happen...and those tunes go on to become #1 hits left and right? Not very.
I think while Stews calls them his "neanderthal takes", maybe Sting and Miles Copeland knew that his first couple of takes were the best.
A good artist has great support, as an editor is to a writer, or a producer is to a music act, and Stewart had gold plated support ON TOP of being an amazing musician already.
I think Stewart's drumming on Wrapped Around Your Finger is one of his best and very underrated. The subtlety and nuance of his choices are perfect. Everytime I listen to the way he arranges those rim shots and toms in every section of the song, my brain lights up with appreciation of being in that moment.
The live version in Buenos Aires during their reunion tour lives in my mind rent free.
BryInThe619 Yeah, I always loved how he goes back to the chorus, travelling backwards up the toms from low to high and ending the phrase on his patented tiny splash cymbals, so I'd like to hear how he wishes he'd recorded it instead.
You're right I always like the drumming on Wrapped Around Your Finger great song
Copeland might be the most underrated drummer in history, at least when it comes to the general public. Drum people know, and certainly many listeners appreciate him despite not being drum people, but I'm not sure he gets the credit he deserves from the listening audience at large.
he’s great live very very busy
I wouldn’t have agreed w this statement a year ago…BUT…on our company message board, somebody started a drumming thread. Everyone is spouting off their favorite drummer, (the usual suspects) but by the second page I noticed a disturbing trend…No mention of Copeland. Some of these guys are accomplished musicians! So then I finally piped up and said “no love for Stewart?” It NEVER got answered! I couldn’t believe it! So I TOTALLY AGREE w your statement.
@@Hogprint25 i don’t normally buy into greatest players of all time on any instruments☝🏻because it just comes down to personal favourites😩like my pick for most underrated would definitely be mick tucker from the sweet he made it seem stupidly easy👌🏼it’s like if people ask me the best guitarist i’m like you mean after angus🎸
Not an underrated drummer, an underrated composer.
Yes. Underrated. Because no one has ever heard of him or the police. STOP MISUSING THAT WORD!!!!!!!!!
Probably the most underrated drummer in rock history. Rarely gets mentioned in the 'best ever' conversation and that's criminal.
He’s not underrated,A drummer is a background person a tempo man,in he’s case with imagination
Hardly underrated by any street he. And "best lists are pathetic, as there are to many variables. Stu would fail at keeping solid tempos. Matters not, that he is my fave. Everyone has big flaws.
Without a good drummer, no band. No one musician is more important. "Background". Ignorance based on location.
I don't think so.
Idk what conversations you're getting into but I've seen plenty on my end where Stew is mentioned among the best of the best. Maybe not as celebrated as John Bonham or Neil Peart but his name comes up enough.
Stewart's sense of rhythm was vastly different than most drummers of the late 70's early 80's. His approach to "the beat" set him apart and gave the songs of The Police a unique and interesting twist that still make them fresh sounding today. Instead of the usual 2 and 4 beats he moved it all around. Also with his unique fills it added to the music and did not distract from it. Message in a Bottle is a perfect example of that. Wrapped around Your Finger and Tea in The Sahara has a mystical quality to them. I wonder what those characters would have come up with had they continued getting together occasionally to record new material over the years?!!!!
Steward is saying over analyzing drum beats & fills is bs.
Stars with their feet firmly on the ground. Need (a lot) more of those..
Arguably the best drummer in rock history, and definitely one of the best. I rank him right up there at the top with Bill Bruford and John Bonham. He's in my Top Three.
I vacillate between Stewart and Mitch Mitchell as my favorite rock drummer of all time. Can't think of more original rock drummer except for maybe Dale Crover.
Carmine Appice
Neil
Define "best."
@@joaquinvargas3915 Yes, Stewart has said Mitch is his favorite drummer and called Jimi Hendrix Mitch Mitchell's guitarist. ;)
Stewart Copeland is one of a kind; a living legend! The way he expresses himself is as entertaining as playing his drums!!!
One of my favorites -- Stewart has amazing energy and a great ability to tell stories. Oh yeah, he's pretty good drummer as well.
Stewart Copeland is one of my drum heroes. His music has been so subliminally ingrained in my mind when I was a kid that I unintentionally find myself using a lot of his grooves.
So much talent and humility...no arrogance or pretentiousness...remarkable man
He is by far one if the greats !!! Love his honesty and straight forward attitude.
One of my all-time favorite drummers… Love his storytelling, too!
Synchronicity 2 has gone down in my mind as among the best drums to ever grace a rock song. It is shockingly tasteful, powerful, sensitive and in places so restrained.
Is that laugh during intro Roxanne because of Sting " getting it" ?
@Jarrod Hardenlove it! Thx!
Such an iconic laugh…
@Jarrod Harden Yep, that’s also the source of that weird piano “chord” that starts the song.
The best songs ever performed by Stewart are Voices In My Head, Omegaman and Miss Gradenko!
My HiFi system is paired with two Velodyne 18” (sealed) subs, and these songs make the floor and walls move!
Yea, totally agree about Omegaman and Miss Gradenko. Two of my favorites.
My favorite Copeland fill in in Miss Gradenko. It's the fill coming out of the guitar solo into the final chorus. It's simple as pie, but there's such fun and excitement in it. Another Copleland bit I love is the lack of any embellishment over the solo in Canary in a coalmine. The song is clearly Sting taking the mick out of Stewart and I always like to think Stewart was so annoyed at the fact, he just played as little as possible on the song in protest! :)
Don't forget "Secret Journey". I blew out two woofers with that song back in the day.
yes i think its the 'X' factor....its a kind of magic, where its present it mesmerises the audience. it can not be taught or learned, you have to be born with it.
and its only after the fact that u realize what u do creates some value for the others. as someone said "i am lucky that what i do is liked by many but even if that wasn't the case i'd still be doing it for my cat..."(like the rest of us)
I could listen to Stewat talking all day, he is so articulate and charismatic!
My favorite drummer, he has so much energy!
I could listen to that all day
This reminds me of Mitch Mitchell's drumming. I was trying to learn "Fire" by Jimi Hendrix and I kept thinking to myself, "How does he remember all of these drum fills? They're all so different and unique." That's when I realized the beauty of improvising and doing things in the spur of the moment because I guarantee he didn't plan out any of those fills. He was just that good.
Yeah, and that show in Germany; Voodoo Chile, looks
like Jimmy gets bored and decides its time for
Mitch to play an awesome 5 min solo, ''ok Mitch,
we'll be back later...''
a drummer once said to me "man, you play it different every time!" (I'm a bassist") well, yeah, I said, but I play the same groove. would get boring otherwise. different every time.
The world needs more Stewart Copelands, but there’s only one Stewart Copeland.
OMG this video makes Stewart Copeland even more of a legend to me. The spontaneous musicality of all the drumming on The Police albums is what I love about them so much! No wonder why I even though I've heard those songs literally thousands of times, it still feels like the first time I've heard every one of his drum fills. Every one is different, but every single one is somehow also just perfect.
That Murder by Numbers story is news to me, thanks for sharing. Wouldn't have guessed!
I could listen to him All Day Long! ❤️
one of my favorites, just an awesome high energy highly skilled played with a great groove 🥁 👍
His drumming in the theme to The Equalizer TV show was just awesome and few people paid attention to the fact it was him that did it lol
Stewart always has a great story to tell. Always interesting
"making stuff up in the studio for the second album", except Masoko Tanga is from the first album Stewart.
I always loved that tune!
It's possible he might have the Regatta de Blanc title track mixed up with Masoko Tanga. The former was definitely based on improvisation. Namely, the "Can't Stand Losing You" stage jams. When they cut the Peel Session in 1979, they did the "Reggatta..." segment as a stand-alone piece and titled it as "Can't Stand Losing You (The Bit We Left Off)".
Murder by Numbers recorded the first time ever hearing/playing the song. That's a Master! Outstanding!
Stewart seems like such a nice guy. I saw the Police here in Toronto twice at the Police picnics. I think it was the 2nd one that completely blew me away. Flock of Seagulls, Spoons, English Beat, Talking heads and the Police. 1981 had Iggy Pop, Specials GO GOs. What a blast.
Possibly the most interesting interview with a musician I’ve heard in a long time.
Ok, that was a "lucky take", but when you have a drummer like SC, the flukes come easier!!
Masoko Tanga was on the first album. The second album's fillers are definitely the title track, Deathwish with recycled bass riff from Can't Stand - and cringy Stewart's songs
I think Drum world is the only magazine Stewart has ever read. He only ever references that in every interview.
lmao
Shame the engineer was so lowly he couldn't remember his name for Murder By Numbers but remembered the story😟
Stewart Copeland could describe dog farts, and it would sound interesting. I wished I had his talent, drive and enthusiasm.
I've been a Police & Stewart Copeland fan since the summer of '83 (like much of America, lol) this is great!!
I like how down to earth and well-spoken Stewart is, it was great hearing him do into detail about these tales about these classic Police songs
Stewart has the most recognizable hi hat. Many great drummers have commented on it. Overall his style is magnificent
Seriously one of the greatest musicians of my lifetime.. hands down.. getting to know him now is such a blessing. what a genuine soul. Always knew he was different and special.. I'm a drum junkie.. Stewart has always been my favorite..
Stewart downplays the things he played on record because he may not have put as much thought into it as people think he did but the instincts and sensibilities that caused him to play what he did (which is obviously different from what someone else would have played) didn't arrive overnight but grew organically over time and perhaps without a lot of conscious thought but are still worthy of analysis by those who's minds don't work quite the same way but would like to add it to their vocabulary. Avoiding over-analysis doesn't mean no analysis at all.
Imagine the sense of purpose and power they must have felt when they really figured out "who they were" as a music-making unit.
That's how it works often times, you do things on the run. You've got plenty of time to perfect your part(s) after it's recorded, so that live show will show that improvability. Plus great gear (tools) too that make the work easier (hopefully). "Every Little Thing..." recorded on I believe a "Trident A-range" console, probably through a Fairchild 670 compressor, makes life a bit easier too, no?
This guy is so engaging when he talks, I can listen to him talk about anything and find it interesting.
So great that some songs are so spontaneously recorded! It really means the artists are really good artists, and even more, there's chemistry between them.
This channel stinks. The public domain video clips and music are the worst.
I love how honest he is, Whats so funny is that these recordings he refers to as his Neanderthal recordings would be magnum opus works by others lol
So glad I got to see The Police play live back in October 2007 (I was at the Cardiff gig). So many people have told me how jealous they are that I got to see The Police live. Believe me, I don't take it for granted. It was one of the best nights of my life AND it was my first gig at the age of 17.
I can listen to him talk, or drum, all day, every day.
Intetesting that he says the songs on the first record were mostly his, when he only has an official writing credit on one of them (Peanuts).
Great song, though.
Several songs recorded at the Outlandos sessions were either discarded or ended up as b-sides. In the latter category there were a number of Copeland songs: "Dead-End Job" (lyrics by Sting and Andy receives credit for newspaper ads reading I guess), "Landlord" (lyrics by Sting) and "A Sermon" (working title "No Excuse", released as a b-side in 1980).
You can feel the passion in Stewarts voice ,for his band ,and he misses the police band and playing in big rock stadiums ,,but sting wanted something smaller, and have more control over his songs
Thats true 👍
This guy is cooler than I remember!!!! He's very animated! He tells the best stories! And how on Earth does he looks so good for 70? Is there some magic in the drumsticks that soaked into his skin? Whatever it is, I want some! Go Stewart! You rock! (No pun intended)!!! God bless!!
He seems like a down-to-earth kind of guy.
My favorite drummer. Such unique style.
Simplistic musical genius. Title track on "Regatta De Blanc" cranked up is the best.
I suppose his root chakra must be clean AF. I just hope I'll retain the incredible energy level that he has when I'll get to my 69...🤯🤯
Still brilliant, thank you Stew!!!!!! With u since 78!
Ha..."Wrapped around your Finger"keeps your Ferrari tuned up😉🤓🍌🍌✌️
Stewart Copeland is a GOD!!!
One chord no trick...lmao. Stewart is top five greatest drummers ever, & without question one of the funniest & most humble musicians out there.
It's the One Chord, No Trick for me!
I agree with you on everything, but he’s definitely not one of the most humble musicians out there in my opinion
Love this! Thank you for letting us all in on this event and sharing your amazing journey!
Love the honesty about his drum parts being fluid at their inception.
Mr Copeland the G.o.a.t. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@Augfordpdoggie buddy rich
I could listen to Stewart talk about these stories all day
Technology which I definitely not happy with
Brings RUclips little sparkling docs :
Having Stewart commented “ secrets” about his drums licks recording is a must .
Stewart could talk about dishwasher bolts and still captivating his audience !
Je dis : monsieur Copeland !
He combines a freewheeling spontaneous nature with laser intellect and he’s a keen businessman too - not in the greedy corporate sense but rather, Stewart reminds us that musicians must earn a living and plan ahead a little if they aren’t just in it for therapy or hobby.
I’m here because I just started playing drums last week but I mostly remember this guy for the Spyro the Dragon soundtrack.
Really love all you do... You are a reason I play drums
sting fears Stewart...cause Stewart is smarter.
This dude has a double doctorate in music. Legend and good friend to Taylor Hawkins (rip)
He, he, Heh HuhhhuHAHAHA....
Stewart Copeland Masterclass - "Understanding the Music Business"
Poor little rich boy: HE UNDERSTANDS NOTHING!!! Really it's Sonya Christina that made it all happen for him... Too bad he divorced her! IMHO
Three UNIQUE people, with THREE unique minds, came together (probably, some "uniqueness" there, too), for a while, to create some unique and good music that even my adult children, today, listen to and know which band it is, just by HEARING IT, just as I did when I listened to their music and sound, (and, I AM 56 YEARS OLD, NOW!! YIKES!! 🥶).
I want to see Stewart play many music genres. Visit different bands and jump into some practice jams and even some live performances
I expect a LOT of heavily analyzed songs have stories just like these behind them.
The lamest transition is in King Of Pain, from the intro verse into the beat
People, what Stewert is talking about is feeling. He heard a song and his brain and body started to become the song, he just knew it. His body knew it and his brain knew it.
"How can you make it our hit?"
Over-dub a "hi-hat", when "Sting's", not there.
When Sting comes back, his really pissed off!.
I still want to hear the version of "Every Breath you Take", with the "hi-hat".
I think "Sting", was mean wiping it.
Here's that little scrappy "Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic" ruclips.net/video/FfolkO4Ninc/видео.html
Funny that he calls that the drumming on those Synchronicity songs "boring". Completely agree. That was their biggest album but for me, it's their worst by far. Much of it is a slow dirge that mostly sounds like a Sting solo album. Masako Tanga however, is pure music explosion.
In studio recording takes, I've learned after many years of my drumming career, that there is an "invisible Godly Intervention", even when you do session works and you have charts.
Analysing things or structures too much is superfluous because that's the way it goes.
Basically, in my humble experience, what happens is the contrary of what they teach you in music academies. He is right on about the overview on his work with Police.
What a great drummer anyhow.
Love his work with police and beyond.
C.A.
With Wrapped Around Your Finger, my main memory of SC's playing is the live clip where SC played percussion, timpani and tom over a drum machine until the last verse. I didn't think the studio fills were lame, though.
I was talking to a young drummer recently who was about to lay down a track and he was telling me how he was going to play every fill and it was flam triplets blah, blah and I’m thinking, just play the fucking song. After half a dozen takes they still didn’t have a decent one. The poor guy froze. Paralysis through analysis.
Copeland, Sting and Andy Summers fed off each other’s brilliance. They pushed each other to the limits and beyond. The chemistry was just right. And they all knew it.
"Stewart Copeland is one of the most intelligent, charming, self-deprecating and funny figures in the world of rock music. And an ingenious drummer, musician, artist just on top of all that'.
I agree, but how sad to see he's reduced to doing these 'I remember when......' gigs. Reminds me of seeing Pete Best showing photos and telling anecdotes to make a living before the Beatles Anthology cut him a slice.