Simple Problem STUMPS PhotoMath! Can You Figure It Out?

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  • @MindYourDecisions
    @MindYourDecisions  6 лет назад +1275

    I love these solvers to check my work or to do tedious calculations. Any others I should know about? The best part is they keep getting better. In October I made a video A Problem WolframAlpha Can't Solve, But You Can (615 + x^2 = 2^y)
    :
    ruclips.net/video/DOISjFviqkM/видео.html. Amazingly a month later someone said that WolframAlpha now does give the correct answer--so perhaps my video alerted them to a bug, or they decided to update the solver. Either way, it's amazing the kind of math technology we have access to today, and the tools just keep getting better.

    • @rastogirachit
      @rastogirachit 6 лет назад +3

      Happy New year

    • @vinceguemat3751
      @vinceguemat3751 6 лет назад +10

      There is a big mistake : 0^0 HAVE A VALUE, it’s 1 !
      0^0 is only an undermined form only for LIMITS so while this question is not about limits we don’t need to check if y != 0 in case 2

    • @some_one_appear_and_said
      @some_one_appear_and_said 6 лет назад +2

      Wow, luckily i have just learnt that kind of exam for a few days. So, easy peasy lemon squizzy :))

    • @Sam_on_YouTube
      @Sam_on_YouTube 6 лет назад +14

      @@vinceguemat3751 Setting aside the validity of 0^0=1, there are no 0^0 scenarios involving integers.

    • @harshranjan8526
      @harshranjan8526 6 лет назад

      My mathematics teacher had taught me the same, and almost in the same way also, this question is really amazing.

  • @elroyjetson8883
    @elroyjetson8883 5 лет назад +1869

    As a former college math professor, I just wanted to weigh in on this channel. You youngsters who are spending time solving these are doing yourself an amazing favor. These are great and fun ways to teach yourself to think of creative and logical solutions that will pay you dividends your entire life. There aren’t too many things you can do now that you will look back on when you are in your 70’s and say “That was a good use of time” but these problems are one of them.
    The presentation is so good and they have a nice range of problems. I wish I had something this nice when I was a teenager. What a great gift MindYourDecisions has given you!

    • @thenixaless7493
      @thenixaless7493 5 лет назад +9

      I gor 0.11 ^42

    • @beentherelovedit9150
      @beentherelovedit9150 5 лет назад +46

      You are right, these vids are like intellectual breaks from regular life.

    • @agassidr
      @agassidr 5 лет назад +21

      Thanks for weighing in Sir...

    • @VikeingBlade
      @VikeingBlade 5 лет назад +10

      ...When I'm 70 I think I'll be more glad for the moments I lived in than the math problems I solved. (I do love math though.)

    • @alexj7731
      @alexj7731 5 лет назад +9

      Ok boomer

  • @oleas6905
    @oleas6905 5 лет назад +5342

    "You might not believe it, but the answer is 7!" what a nice way to put factorials and trick everyone lmao

    • @barneystinson3358
      @barneystinson3358 5 лет назад +23

      How's that work?

    • @rarelyseen2609
      @rarelyseen2609 5 лет назад +25

      @@barneystinson3358 yeah, i dont get it

    • @herrebner1772
      @herrebner1772 5 лет назад +486

      @@rarelyseen2609 the solutions are 2 3 4 5 6 7, so its 7! (7 factorial), so just a little wordplay ;)

    • @heitoho5430
      @heitoho5430 5 лет назад +15

      omg

    • @heitoho5430
      @heitoho5430 5 лет назад +14

      I just spotted it

  • @rickyranggasaputra7926
    @rickyranggasaputra7926 5 лет назад +3143

    "A math problem most computer can't solve, but you can"
    Me: No, I don't think I can

    • @3characterhandlerequired
      @3characterhandlerequired 5 лет назад +22

      My thoughts exactly. It has been about 35 years since I calculated anything like this but I remember that working with math was fun at school. However in this video there is one jump I don't know how you got what you got and that is how you get (x-2)(x-5)=0 from x^2-7x+11=1? Can someone explain that to me? Sounds like that is something you can do just by looking at the math so it probably is simple thing that I have just forgotten, but I can't figure that out. So "No, I don't think I can" is quite real for me.

    • @benhur2806
      @benhur2806 5 лет назад +10

      @@3characterhandlerequired Subtract 1 from both sides, for x^2-7x+10=0, which you can then factor as (x-2)(x-5)=0

    • @3characterhandlerequired
      @3characterhandlerequired 5 лет назад +6

      @@benhur2806 Thanks for the answer but that doesn't really give me solution to my problem. It's the factoring part that I'm missing. Any websites where I can refresh my math skills (pretty basic stuff I realize now, I have forgotten more than I was willing to admit). I feel like the time I first encountered Laplace transforms. It was in physics class, not math and that was the first time I or my classmates had seen the thing. "You put L in front of that and the whole equation mysteriously changed? What's going on?"

    • @Alians0108
      @Alians0108 5 лет назад +1

      @@3characterhandlerequired Try Khan Academy or MathTutorDVD

    • @benallen464
      @benallen464 5 лет назад +1

      @@3characterhandlerequired look up the quadratic formula, it gives the root of any x^2 polynomial (numbers that if inserted into the polynomial make the equation equal to 0)

  • @josh7709
    @josh7709 4 года назад +1115

    The 1st and 2nd solutions easy but damn, I completely passed over that 3rd case

    • @volodyanarchist
      @volodyanarchist 4 года назад +49

      I am the only person who has also considered i^(4*k) and (-i)^(4*k), but completely missed that raising to 0th power gives you 1.

    • @brendapaolacantubeltran3919
      @brendapaolacantubeltran3919 4 года назад +7

      I actually thought about that but for some reason I got 13 instead of 12 and got 5 and 8 as solutions instead of 3 and 4

    • @edwardmao9792
      @edwardmao9792 4 года назад

      same

    • @deedeeen
      @deedeeen 4 года назад +20

      @VolodyA! V Anarhist
      "Solve for all *real* numbers x". ;p

    • @volodyanarchist
      @volodyanarchist 4 года назад +2

      @@deedeeen That didn't stop me. I cannot remeber why.

  • @dinamosflams
    @dinamosflams 5 лет назад +1196

    0:54 - "well, imagine you are stuck in this problem"
    Ok, that part I got right

    • @normaaliihminen722
      @normaaliihminen722 5 лет назад +11

      Vinícius de A Batista I have watched this video 3 Times And stil I don't* understand what and what is Point of this. I really want to understand Math but i have learning disability called f80.

    • @glumbortango7182
      @glumbortango7182 4 года назад +10

      *these math videos inspire and build confidence for people around the world*

    • @eelueelu9069
      @eelueelu9069 4 года назад +3

      I did this question in first 15 seconds..believe me I got the roots of these quadratic just by seeing them and (-1)^2k was obvious forme

    • @mertaliozfidan3242
      @mertaliozfidan3242 4 года назад +1

      This comment is one the best ones I have seen I a while

  • @warrensnook9435
    @warrensnook9435 5 лет назад +503

    I really enjoyed this problem as an algebra teacher. The first solution that came to my mind was when the exponent was 0.

    • @KARTIKEYA007
      @KARTIKEYA007 5 лет назад +16

      I am a student who last studied maths a few years ago and all I could think of was 1^y = 1 solution

    • @pimbe2511
      @pimbe2511 5 лет назад +30

      I got x^0 or 1^x but couldnt think of -1

    • @msksha6379
      @msksha6379 5 лет назад +3

      @@pimbe2511 I'm a doctor, and I got similar thoughts

    • @Saoshi_
      @Saoshi_ 5 лет назад +3

      Yeah and I was just thinking to solve x² - 13x + 42 = 0 and you got it

    • @b.b.b.b.b.b.b
      @b.b.b.b.b.b.b 5 лет назад

      I am a math teacher's daughter and I found all :)))

  • @Wingooo
    @Wingooo 4 года назад +345

    “How can we solve this problem? Well imagine that you are stuck on this problem”
    No need to imagine then

  • @TomKaren94
    @TomKaren94 2 года назад +4

    I am 65 years old. I watch the videos on this channel at night when I can't sleep. I usually only get a partial solution but I got this one totally. I appreciate this channel. I feel it keeps me sharp for my accounting work and my woodworking side business

  • @johngeverett
    @johngeverett 5 лет назад +23

    It's amazing how simple and straightforward the solution is when you just take what is known and connect the dots!

  • @kyanos-3909
    @kyanos-3909 6 лет назад +754

    Another way to solve:
    (x^2-7x+11)^(x^2-13x+42)=1
    log|x^2-7x+11|^(x^2-13x+42)=0
    (x^2-13x+42)log|x^2-7x+11|=0
    then,x^2-13x+42=0 or
    log|x^2-7x+11|=0
    first equation:
    x^2-13x+42=0
    (x-6)(x-7)=0
    x=6, 7
    second equation:
    log|x^2-7x+11|=0
    x^2-7x+11=1 or -1
    x=2, 5, 3, 4
    So x=2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7

    • @vishaljhaveri6176
      @vishaljhaveri6176 5 лет назад +29

      That's a very simple method Kyanos. Even I love to do that.

    • @MrWarlls
      @MrWarlls 5 лет назад +21

      That's a very elegant way to solve this problem. Il like it.

    • @sadekjn
      @sadekjn 5 лет назад +26

      Although the video’s solution was equally ingenious, your solution was much simpler and more intuitive. Thank you

    • @aq9407
      @aq9407 5 лет назад +40

      Why you used -1 because log(-1) isn't 0

    • @sadekjn
      @sadekjn 5 лет назад +33

      A Q He took the exponential of both sides and ended up with the absolute value sign of the function equal to 1. And since the exponential function and natural logarithmic function are inverses of each other, they cancel each other and thus you can get rid of the natural log. Next, after he gets rid of the absolute value sign, he can consider 1 or -1.
      Also, just in case you’re wondering why the absolute value is there in the first place, it is because the logarithmic function is defined only for x > 0, that is, only positive numbers.

  • @DarthStrider
    @DarthStrider 6 лет назад +1009

    Case in point wolfram alpha is the best.

    • @Abhisruta
      @Abhisruta 6 лет назад +75

      No, the human is the grand solver...

    • @sairamniranjan3908
      @sairamniranjan3908 6 лет назад +8

      You bet it is!

    • @Abc-np5eo
      @Abc-np5eo 6 лет назад +18

      There is one equation that wolfram alpha can't solve

    • @DarthStrider
      @DarthStrider 6 лет назад +120

      There are many things wolfram alpha cant solve but it is the best solver available. Unless of course you kidnap a maths professor.

    • @sonalidasgupta3562
      @sonalidasgupta3562 6 лет назад +11

      @@DarthStrider ....on second thoughts that kidnapped prof + Alpha would be best 😆

  • @lux4019
    @lux4019 4 года назад +465

    Not gonna forget about case 3 for the rest of my life

    • @riem9740
      @riem9740 3 года назад

      LOOL

    • @koleso1v
      @koleso1v 3 года назад +6

      Because it is a wrong solution :)

    • @koleso1v
      @koleso1v 3 года назад +19

      @Zoltan Stromberg the explanation is simple. There is a difference when you solve the equation in integers or in real numbers. For integers, all solutions are valid, because indeed, (-1)^2n=1. It is not the case for real numbers though, because when you write a^b, where both a and b are real, then you immediately assume a>=0. Indeed, if a

    • @koleso1v
      @koleso1v 3 года назад +11

      @Zoltan Stromberg but the problem is not in two possible values, it is much deeper. If we consider a power function a^b, we would like to operate with b, as we always do with numbers. For example, (-8)^(1/3)=(-8)^(2/6)=(-8)^(3/9), etc. However, there three values of (-8)^(1/3) = {-2; 1+i√3; 1-i√3}
      and 6 values for
      (-8)^(2/6) = {+/-2; +/-(1+i√3); +/-(1-i√3)}.
      Now you can see what happens. Even for rational powers we can generate as many solutions as we want. In complex analysis, this is generalized to
      a^b = exp(b*ln|a|*b*(2πin+i*arctan(theta)), where n takes all possible integers and yields to infinite number of solutions. Thus, we have only two regular approaches.
      1. Postulate that we want to consider only real solutions, therefore a>=0 forever, and negative a are not ever considered.
      2. Properly extend the expression to the complex plane and show all infinite solutions.
      In this video it was done something in between that is not rigorous and not right, because the (-1)^2k solution is from the different realm, and all other solutions are magically ignored.

    • @TheMartian11
      @TheMartian11 3 года назад +3

      wow, I aspire to learn all this stuff one day, someday haha. I can understand the ambiguity that you stated here, but I lack the knowledge to understand anything else as whatever I know about complex numbers for now, is that its "a hack for computing negative roots"- as my maths teacher explained it. I know that's not just all, and that it's a whole new field of maths, but that's just the educational system here, incompetent teachers who didn't achieve their desired life goals (and thus reluctantly became teachers) who don't care about the student's intellectual understanding. they just care that we can solve the textbook questions and use so-called "tricks" to solve MCQs. I'm 15 by the way. :)

  • @mrvktr7044
    @mrvktr7044 4 года назад +61

    Of course I am one year late, but oh man, this is one example why math is gorgeous :D

  • @contessa420
    @contessa420 4 года назад +630

    My goodness I actually knew how to do this, that's a first

    • @games267
      @games267 4 года назад +2

      I also

    • @udith
      @udith 4 года назад +17

      I got only 4

    • @joda7697
      @joda7697 4 года назад

      @@udith exactly, who knows if there are non-trivial solutions
      Solving the base to equal 1 and the exponent to be 0 might not give the complete solution set!

    • @cyndb6303
      @cyndb6303 4 года назад +1

      I sadly only equated the bases. But I tried.

    • @jessicajohn6004
      @jessicajohn6004 3 года назад +1

      I got the solutions correct that is 7 but I got 6 to be correct too

  • @pNsB
    @pNsB 2 года назад +1

    I got 4 just from the thumbnail, but as soon as you mentioned there are 2 more solutions I paused to figure them out. Took a bit, I'll admit, but it was satisfying!

  • @arshayazdani9487
    @arshayazdani9487 4 года назад +48

    This was amazing! I’ve learned the 3rd case (Yes!). The factorial joke at the end is top notch 👏

    • @xchomphk.9788
      @xchomphk.9788 Год назад

      i agree this is indeed amazing factorial

  • @rishabh3920
    @rishabh3920 5 лет назад +384

    Nice trick
    We know that 2*3*4*5*6*7 = 7!
    What a nice way

  • @BhardwajAnsh
    @BhardwajAnsh 4 года назад +266

    Try using log in it! It will be wayyyyy easier that way!
    That way, RHS will become 0 has log 1 is zero, then easy-peasy calculation

    • @nick46285
      @nick46285 4 года назад +54

      no, if you use log you don't get 6 solutions you only get 4 of them

    • @engjayah
      @engjayah 4 года назад +31

      You will get all 6 roots
      Cos log value is the modules of any number which always has two + or - value

    • @kishore2486
      @kishore2486 4 года назад +4

      @Gonçalo Fernandes great

    • @udith
      @udith 4 года назад +2

      You can this without using log also

    • @rapid13
      @rapid13 4 года назад +19

      Log was my first thought too.

  • @srinivasannarayanan8056
    @srinivasannarayanan8056 4 года назад +2

    I got the 6 or 7 immediately but did not think of the other two possible solutions. Great stuff.

  • @ReSinon
    @ReSinon 5 лет назад +425

    2,5,6,7 and spent 3 min.
    And forgotten case3

    • @emresucu7587
      @emresucu7587 5 лет назад +7

      You forgot the chance that bottom can be (-1) and top can be even number

    • @j2011j2015j
      @j2011j2015j 5 лет назад +15

      Same here then when he said there is 6 solutions I paused it and took me anither 5 minutes to try the negative

    • @sam3oq980
      @sam3oq980 5 лет назад +1

      3 and 4 work as well because the bottom is -1 and the top is even.

    • @MichaelRothwell1
      @MichaelRothwell1 5 лет назад +3

      Me too. Only got the last 2 solutions after he insisted there were 6. A great problem, and good video.

    • @brookehappyeveryday
      @brookehappyeveryday 5 лет назад +1

      me too

  • @not_vinkami
    @not_vinkami 6 лет назад +682

    I almost got tricked by your sound saying 7 is the answer of multiplying all of the solutions. When you look carefully, the real answer should be 7! instead of 7 and the sentence missed a full stop

    • @Rekko82
      @Rekko82 6 лет назад +26

      He forgot the full stop. So it means that he is yelling that the answer is 7!!!! It is important for him us to remember that the answer is SEVEN!!!! Not 7! - it is SEVEN!

    • @skylardeslypere9909
      @skylardeslypere9909 6 лет назад +54

      That's literally his intention. He wanted to trick everyone by making people like you ( =dumb) think the ! is the full stop of the sentence

    • @RExN6900
      @RExN6900 6 лет назад +27

      @@Rekko82 this '!' at the end of a number means the factorial of the number

    • @braisfernandez5687
      @braisfernandez5687 6 лет назад +3

      @@RExN6900 He knows

    • @Rekko82
      @Rekko82 6 лет назад +14

      @@RExN6900 No, it isn't! If you use ! as a factorial, you still need a full stop to finish the sentence. Well, you don't need - you even start your sentences without any capitals.

  • @SAHZ-xe3pz
    @SAHZ-xe3pz 5 лет назад +10

    That was one of the coolest sulotions I've ever seen for an algebra question....thanks mindyourdesicion

  • @curiousminds2603
    @curiousminds2603 4 года назад +1

    You are one of the best useful channels of RUclips in my opinion
    Thnx for giving these types of questions these questions fecinate me about know more things

  • @GreenMeansGOF
    @GreenMeansGOF 6 лет назад +225

    I took the natural log of the equation and that allowed me to find 2,5,6,7 but it missed 3 and 4. I think it is because my method assumes that the argument of the natural log is positive.

    • @jayvyas1827
      @jayvyas1827 6 лет назад +3

      yeah i did that too..

    • @wanyinleung912
      @wanyinleung912 6 лет назад +12

      This is probably the method the program used, that's why they missed 2 solutions.

    • @e11eohe11e
      @e11eohe11e 6 лет назад +11

      I did log too. Surprised it wasn't in the video.

    • @skj84
      @skj84 6 лет назад +5

      Same here, but in my defense I did that mentally sitting on a bus to work.. Guess I could have figured it with a pen and paper

    • @abhijitsingh3744
      @abhijitsingh3744 6 лет назад +50

      x=3,4 are not missed if you take the natural log and don't restrict yourself to real numbers.
      (x^2 - 13x + 42) ln(x^2 - 7x + 11) = ln(1) = 0 + i2πk
      Let x^2 - 13x + 42 = 2k and
      ln(x^2 - 7x + 11) = iπ.
      This occurs when x^2 - 7x + 11 = -1 --> x=3,4.

  • @stephenthomson3120
    @stephenthomson3120 3 года назад +10

    My main man, the TI-92, solved for all 6! Pretty good for a 26-year old graphing calculator.

  • @abeerkale566
    @abeerkale566 3 года назад +3

    Thank you Presh! I have a math exam today and I was able to solve this! I have a major confidence boost now😁

  • @zapking8209
    @zapking8209 3 года назад +6

    I feel like I had a problem similar to this on a competition where we had an average of 4 minutes to solve each problem (but the questions were overall easier). I forgot about the -1 case, but I remembered it when I was doing the problem for this video!

  • @iamyoda7917
    @iamyoda7917 6 лет назад +415

    It took me 3 minutes to get 2, 5, 6, and 7 without pen and paper. I thought I nailed this one, but incomplete. 🙁

    • @harrysvensson2610
      @harrysvensson2610 6 лет назад +35

      mission failed we'll get em next time

    • @billy.7113
      @billy.7113 6 лет назад +13

      @@harrysvensson2610 Incomplete mission *≠* Failed mission

    • @JohnLeePettimoreIII
      @JohnLeePettimoreIII 6 лет назад +17

      Sounds like you did what I did:
      y^0
      1^y
      And forgot about the third case. That's ok, old dogs can remember old tricks just as we can learn the new ones. 😃

    • @sonpham3438
      @sonpham3438 6 лет назад +4

      WiseOldDude, same.
      I was like: set the exponent to 0 and base to 1. Then factor them and bam I‘m done.
      Haven‘t thought of (-1)^2k thing though

    • @michak8029
      @michak8029 6 лет назад +1

      Did exactly the same..

  • @guyg.5013
    @guyg.5013 6 лет назад +17

    before watching:
    x^2-13x+42=0
    or
    x^2-7x+11=1
    resolts:
    6 or 7 or 5 or 2

  • @saintmoglis
    @saintmoglis 5 лет назад +29

    I found 6,7 and 2,5 from cases 1,2 in 30 seconds and i thought i was right.... but i forgot case 3...
    I figured it out the moment you said that many computers only find 4 solutions.....

  • @ЕвгенийЗимин-и3х
    @ЕвгенийЗимин-и3х 4 года назад +4

    The task is to solve for all REAL numbers x, so exponentiation operation b^n is possible only if b > 0. That is why the correct answers are 2, 5, 6, 7 despite the fact that 3, 4 satisfies the equation, however, this operation is not defined. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    • @heliogen5959
      @heliogen5959 3 года назад

      Are you disputing that 3 and 4 are real numbers? You’re reading too far into it.

  • @atulmalakar
    @atulmalakar 4 года назад +59

    0:30
    A similar question was given to students in JEE Mains 2016, with 2 minutes to solve !

    • @AniCodeStar
      @AniCodeStar 4 года назад +3

      yes bro

    • @TawhidCodex
      @TawhidCodex 4 года назад +4

      @Divyesh Raj ROFLMFAO 😆

    • @mihirshah1717
      @mihirshah1717 4 года назад +3

      well actually this is pretty easy, a^b=1, solve for a=1 and b=0 you'll get your answers, this is my guess before watching the video I got x=2,5,6,7

    • @mihirshah1717
      @mihirshah1717 4 года назад +1

      okay I actually forgot about exponent being even or odd

    • @TawhidCodex
      @TawhidCodex 4 года назад

      @@mihirshah1717 where are you from?

  • @marcpatton5207
    @marcpatton5207 4 года назад +51

    This one was actually pretty easy.
    Edit: Damn it, I missed the third case!

    • @suddeneevee9441
      @suddeneevee9441 3 года назад +1

      Same, (-1)^2k is a weird way to say 1. But still valid nevertheless.

  • @WildAnimalChannel
    @WildAnimalChannel 5 лет назад +9

    I missed the (-1)^y case but got it as soon as you said there were 6 solutions. Wolfram aplha now misses this one too!

  • @ThatITGuy-jj4cp
    @ThatITGuy-jj4cp 4 года назад

    INDIA CAT 2020, SLOT 1 | Had to solve under 2 minutes, thank god I am your regular viewer! Thanks always:)

  • @calebbridges4748
    @calebbridges4748 5 лет назад +6

    Yeah I missed case 3. Really appreciate this sort of content!

  • @han9118
    @han9118 4 года назад +6

    I got a feeling that the only reason why this video was made was because of the joke in the end lol. Cracked me so well

  • @sirapplepine
    @sirapplepine 6 лет назад +506

    I got 2,3,4,5,6,7 before watching.
    EDIT: For once I did it right.

    • @artursanti3276
      @artursanti3276 6 лет назад +2

      X2

    • @DrakoonLP
      @DrakoonLP 6 лет назад +2

      David Nettey same

    • @Abhisruta
      @Abhisruta 6 лет назад +1

      Good

    • @davidissel7980
      @davidissel7980 6 лет назад +9

      @David Nettey same for me. I thought I did pretty well until I watched the rest of the video.

    • @spicydan1582
      @spicydan1582 6 лет назад +3

      [(x-3)*(x-4)-1]^(x-6)(x-7)=1, so either make (x-3)*(x-4)-1 =1, or (x-6)(x-7)=0. therefore I got 2,5,6,7, but 3 and 4 are right too

  • @SKSharhaanNaimB
    @SKSharhaanNaimB 3 года назад +1

    Great video! I took all the three cases and answer matched.

  • @dhruvsaraff5236
    @dhruvsaraff5236 6 лет назад +55

    But why didn't the graph show the last two solutions

    • @user-matlee2477
      @user-matlee2477 6 лет назад +10

      It's because the last two solutions are in the interval where x^2-7x+11, which is inside log, becomes negative.

    • @GeorgeFoot
      @GeorgeFoot 6 лет назад +18

      The LHS expression doesn't have real values when x is in the range (2,5) except at x=3 and x=4. So the graph is discontinuous, the graph plotter cannot draw a smooth line for you to spot the points where the equation takes the target RHS value of 1, and a native real solver won't find those solutions.
      For an automated solver to find these solutions really requires it to work in the complex field, in which case you do get a nice continuous line that veers out of the real plane at (2,1), then cuts back through it at (3,1) and (4,1), then rejoins the real plane at (5,1).

    • @iabervon
      @iabervon 6 лет назад +9

      @@GeorgeFoot The graph plotter really ought to let you know that part of the graph is outside the range of the function. That way, you could know to wonder if there are solutions in there, even if it couldn't find them.

    • @GeorgeFoot
      @GeorgeFoot 6 лет назад +5

      @@iabervon The line vanishing without going off the top or bottom should be a clue, but there are ways to make it more obvious for sure. The real win would be if the plotter did realise that there were points in range at 3 and 4 and showed them visually.

    • @skenming
      @skenming 6 лет назад +4

      @@GeorgeFoot Why do you know the graph plotter issue? I'm in math major but didn't know this. Also thank you for answering.

  • @camembertdalembert6323
    @camembertdalembert6323 4 года назад +9

    yes... and no. If you define x as a real number, it implies that the power notation is just a shortcut for exp((x²-13x+42)ln(x²-7x+11)).
    Therefore x²-7x+11 can't be a negative number by definition.

  • @rameshs4069
    @rameshs4069 4 года назад +30

    When I checked the graph in Desmos, I found out that it included the solutions 3 and 4. The reason why you missed it was because the solutions were merely points at the axis.

  • @william2344
    @william2344 4 года назад +1

    I'm in year 10 and I was so close!. I got 7 and 6 by knowing that any number to the power of zero is equal to one, and using simplifying as a way to solve for x, but I never knew the two other methods. thanks for teaching me!

  • @alankritanand5400
    @alankritanand5400 6 лет назад +145

    A similar question has been asked in JEE MAINS 2016.

  • @GDPlainA
    @GDPlainA 3 года назад +3

    WolframAlpha to other Math tools: amateurs
    bprp: believe in math, not in wolframalpha
    Wolframalpha has left the chat

  • @UltraLuigi2401
    @UltraLuigi2401 5 лет назад +9

    For the joke, I started typing 7! into my calculator. Then I noticed that was the joke

  • @arthur_p_dent
    @arthur_p_dent 3 года назад +1

    4:03 If is easy to see that the exponent term, x²-13x+42 is even for ANY integer number, as x² and 13x will inevitably always have the same parity (odd if x is odd and even if x is even). So there is not even a need to explicitly compute these values for the values x=2 and x=3.

  • @SmyleTweety
    @SmyleTweety 4 года назад +3

    I only had the two cases in the beginning and then you mentioned that there were six solutions and I immediately was like oh yeah there’s -1 as well🤦🏼‍♀️

  • @Annikai
    @Annikai 4 года назад +35

    I accidentally figured out case 3 when I messed up my algebra figuring out case 1.

    • @tsabotium2211
      @tsabotium2211 3 года назад +6

      "there are no accidents"
      -master oogway

    • @pianobear7491
      @pianobear7491 3 года назад +3

      Task failed successfully!

  • @AndreyGuild
    @AndreyGuild 3 года назад +10

    Unfortunately you are wrong about 3 and 4
    x^2-13x+42 equals 12 for x = 3, but (-1)^(9-39+42) is not the same as (-1)^12, cause to do this step you need this a^(b+c) = a^b*a^c, which for real numbers is correct only when a>0
    Also for one problem you can't use two different definitions of same a^b and problem explicetly stated real number so there can not be any ambiguity.

    • @НиколайПотехин-н1е
      @НиколайПотехин-н1е 3 года назад

      He didnt use that formula a^(b+c), because these are parameters, but u can use numbers so (-1)^(9-39+42) equals to (-1)^12
      The formula could be used like if x^(x^2-5x+6) = x^(x^2) * x^(6-5x)

    • @AndreyGuild
      @AndreyGuild 3 года назад

      @@НиколайПотехин-н1е no you can't, given the definition of functions and operators same as sqrt(a*b) != sqrt(a)*sqrt(b), you can't do that willy-nilly even if those are specific numbers

    • @НиколайПотехин-н1е
      @НиколайПотехин-н1е 3 года назад

      @@AndreyGuild well, not exaclty. The number you are doing sqrt at has to be >= 0, but when it comes to ^ function, it is not necessary, you can do like 5^(-9)

    • @VillagerJeff
      @VillagerJeff 3 года назад

      Even if you had to separate them it would work. (-1)^(9-39+42)=[(-1)^9][(-1)^-39][(-1)^42]=(-1)(1/-1)(1)=(-1)(-1)(1)=1

  • @emil8120
    @emil8120 2 года назад +1

    that caught me off guard i didn't even consider the other cases, I knew in a heartbeat about case 2, I was so up in my own ass I didn't even consider other possible answers

  • @rehmancommunication7407
    @rehmancommunication7407 4 года назад +60

    Well I got confused when I ignored "!" and found the product to be 5040😂😂

    • @yousuf_w1
      @yousuf_w1 3 года назад +3

      this symbol ! means to multiply all numbers under 7 which is 2,3,4,5,6,7

    • @hellsowner8513
      @hellsowner8513 3 года назад

      Me too!

    • @DatBoi_TheGudBIAS
      @DatBoi_TheGudBIAS 3 года назад

      Well, now UK how much is 7!

  • @unknown6000
    @unknown6000 6 лет назад +14

    Checked it with my TI Nspire CX CAS, it found all the solutions too.

  • @Sam_on_YouTube
    @Sam_on_YouTube 6 лет назад +66

    Technically, it should uave been "You might not believe it, but the answer is 7!."

    • @artursanti3276
      @artursanti3276 6 лет назад +3

      It's the same... like what? The dot? Xd

    • @user-vn7ce5ig1z
      @user-vn7ce5ig1z 6 лет назад +19

      Yes, the period. All of his other sentences had proper punctuation (and "own!" at 1:44), so if that was supposed to be a factorial symbol (math needs unique symbols instead of recycling punctuation ¬_¬), then it would have been a hanging sentence without terminating punctuation.

    • @harshranjan8526
      @harshranjan8526 6 лет назад +4

      You are right, but as you know, he wanted to trick us, it was ok.🙂🙂🙂

    • @Rekko82
      @Rekko82 6 лет назад +3

      THE ANSWER IS SEVEN!!!!!

    • @AlexTheUruguayan
      @AlexTheUruguayan 6 лет назад

      Exactly, lots of riddles rely on improper punctuation as the key to the mystery.

  • @ChrisSmith-vq5ps
    @ChrisSmith-vq5ps 2 года назад

    Happy to see that the pure Python CAS, SymPy, reports all solutions with a straightforward call to `solve`.

  • @erforscher
    @erforscher 6 лет назад +5

    One such question also came in JEE Main 2016, there they asked sum of all possible values of x and gladly only one sum was matching in the options. It was put under the category of complex numbers. I got it right in the 2nd attempt.😉 👍

  • @Pacvalham
    @Pacvalham 6 лет назад +11

    Go to Desmos, graph the equation, replace x with another variable like n, create a slider for the variable, set slider step to 1, and slide it over all six solutions shown in the video.

  • @Tehom1
    @Tehom1 6 лет назад +6

    Thanks for the puzzle, Presh!
    The formula will be 1 only when the base has absolute value 1 or the exponent is 0. Since the exponent factors into (x-6)(x-7), we have {6,7} as two solutions. For the base, we have to find roots of (x^2-7*x+11)=1 instead, which is (x^2-7*x+10), which is (x-5)(x-2), giving us two more solutions, {2,5}. Our remaining solutions must have abs(base) = 1 and be raised to an exponent that winds them around to 1. Since we only seek real values for x, our remaining solutions must have base=-1 and an even exponent. So we find roots of (x^2-7*x+11)=-1 which is (x^2-7*x+12) which is (x-3)(x-4), and both substitutions give us even exponents, which gives our remaining solutions {3,4}
    So in summary we have x in {2,3,4,5,6,7}. Cute.

  • @bananaskin7527
    @bananaskin7527 3 года назад +1

    Neat. I did think to consider the cases. Thank you.

  • @pranjalpravesh9857
    @pranjalpravesh9857 5 лет назад +223

    This is actually easy question for those who are preparing for JEE exams.

    • @akshatnagar7074
      @akshatnagar7074 5 лет назад +11

      Yeah, most of these are. It took my class group around 15 min to solve that Gaokao functions question.

    • @akshatnagar7074
      @akshatnagar7074 5 лет назад +2

      Did I spell that correctly?

    • @pranjalpravesh9857
      @pranjalpravesh9857 5 лет назад +15

      @@ashutoshmishra7429 jee mains is even very easy as compared to jee advanced.. 😂

    • @RameshKnowledgeIndex
      @RameshKnowledgeIndex 5 лет назад +32

      They gave 30min per question. We solve such questions in 1min/question rate.

    • @vijayawasthi70
      @vijayawasthi70 5 лет назад

      yup

  • @mechanicalredroom9882
    @mechanicalredroom9882 5 лет назад +44

    That last question was really a good trick...
    I thought it's 7 but actually it's 7!
    Lol

    • @prakharrai8819
      @prakharrai8819 4 года назад

      It is not 7! . That was a joke🤣 actually 7! =5040.is it the answer?🤨

  • @hilbertbarelds8645
    @hilbertbarelds8645 6 лет назад +23

    Aren't there more solutions if take into account the complex plane? It wasn't stated in the preconditions. i^2=-1 or am I making it too complex?

    • @zachcohen3538
      @zachcohen3538 6 лет назад +18

      Nah - These are all the solutions.
      To get 1 on the RHS, you would need (i^4k), where k is an integer. Which is simply (i^2)^2k - Or (-1)^2k. By including case 3, this has already been covered! :)

    • @viveksinghgulia8739
      @viveksinghgulia8739 6 лет назад +12

      It said real roots 👍

    • @randominternetuser1681
      @randominternetuser1681 6 лет назад +15

      Hilbert Barelds "Solve for all real numbers"

    • @GreenMeansGOF
      @GreenMeansGOF 6 лет назад +1

      Here is something to consider, we do not want to consider cases involving complex numbers because we want real solutions. So for example, we do not want to solve
      x^2-7x+11=i
      because there are no real solutions.

    • @pcarlisi
      @pcarlisi 6 лет назад +2

      There aren't anymore, but for all folks replying, it is possible for a quadratic with complex coefficients to have one real and one complex solution, so it should generally be checked.

  • @krs7936
    @krs7936 3 года назад

    At 3:54 why we are checking the exponent to be even. As we have considered the whole exponent to be -1.

  • @doodelay
    @doodelay 5 лет назад +6

    This is the first time I answered a question on this channel without getting anything wrong or missing a possibility :D I'm improving

  • @andreprawardana6362
    @andreprawardana6362 6 лет назад +22

    Watching these mathemathical problems and their solutions are like watching Val Valentino/masked magician revealing many magic's secrets. We look for overly complicated solutions only to find out that the solutions are quite simple. Not to mention the misdirections on the problems.

  • @husnara8964
    @husnara8964 5 лет назад +7

    Solved this question in 1 minute.....
    I m really happy for me😊😊

    • @jeremychan1560
      @jeremychan1560 5 лет назад

      same!

    • @AbirInsights
      @AbirInsights 5 лет назад

      I just solved the power x^2+13x+42=0. beacause anything power zero exept zero is one

  • @Ritik_Nandan
    @Ritik_Nandan 4 года назад +1

    THIS WAS GOOD, THANKS FOR MAKING THIS CHANNEL

  • @bubblytalker1
    @bubblytalker1 5 лет назад +62

    I missed Case 3 and found 4 solutions...

  • @pritivarshney2128
    @pritivarshney2128 4 года назад +71

    Me, an intellectual: take ln on both sides
    EDIT: OMG THANKS FOR SO MANY LIKES! I HAVE NEVER GOTTEN THIS MANY BEFORE!

    • @dekippiesip
      @dekippiesip 4 года назад +2

      No need. Just observe that a^0 = 1 and 1^a is 1, and for good measure you may take 0^0 as 1 because of the limiting behaviour. That should give enough info to solve this.

    • @pritivarshney2128
      @pritivarshney2128 4 года назад

      @@dekippiesip Yes but for any other value except 1 on rhs we would have to take ln

    • @dekippiesip
      @dekippiesip 4 года назад

      @@pritivarshney2128 why? You know the only combinations are 1^something, something^0 and (-1)^2. That gives you the 3 equations you need to solve, each of them having 2 solutions for x, so there you have all 6 of them.

    • @pritivarshney2128
      @pritivarshney2128 4 года назад +3

      @@dekippiesip I am just joking that whenever you see variable in power you try to bring it down by taking ln

    • @麦老板
      @麦老板 3 года назад

      Me too, but I neglect the case 3...

  • @v-bucks999
    @v-bucks999 5 лет назад +40

    At first this was kinda scary. But after like 2 secs I realized that the exponent should be equal to 0. Ridiculous.

    • @XGD5layer
      @XGD5layer 5 лет назад +1

      The base being 1 leads to answers too

  • @engjayah
    @engjayah 4 года назад +1

    Alternatively apply natural log on both sides and ln |x^2 - 7x + 11| has 2 + or - values
    From which you get the additional 2 roots setting x^2 - 7x + 11 = -1

  • @HerrHoldem
    @HerrHoldem 5 лет назад +116

    Ohh, I have found only 4 solutions, the final case is very interesting
    7!

  • @rohanpandey9957
    @rohanpandey9957 5 лет назад +24

    This question is damn easy we have solved this type of question many a time in jee test

    • @marcsonic01
      @marcsonic01 4 года назад +2

      @Where is Jerry? the best university is oxford, cambridge or Harvard...

    • @hoangnguyendinh1107
      @hoangnguyendinh1107 4 года назад +5

      @@themouseonthebike lmao, it said "for high school student in Massachusetts" not MIT lol, read carefully before judging, think of it if this is first time u see this kind of question, not after tons of practices.

    • @chrisluders9592
      @chrisluders9592 4 года назад

      @@marcsonic01
      ? Not for math. And even in general, Princeton is a better school than all that you listed.

    • @jonahscher-zagier8196
      @jonahscher-zagier8196 4 года назад

      It's easy BECAUSE you have solved similar problems many times....

    • @孙林可
      @孙林可 4 года назад

      @@themouseonthebike Try coffin problems. They are truly brutal tho I solved some of them.

  • @mohammadismailsheikh7546
    @mohammadismailsheikh7546 5 лет назад +12

    I got the solutions 2,5,6,7, didn't thought about solutions 3,4

    • @Stereo4102
      @Stereo4102 5 лет назад

      The third case ((-1) ^ 2k = 1) First, convert the result of the base equation in negative: x² - 7x + 11= -1 and turn it into x² - 7x + 11 + 1 = 0 = x² - 7x + 12 = (x - 3)(x - 4) so the solutions are 3 and 4 and substitute the x of the exponent with the solutions to find out that its result is an even number, since no matter whether the number is positive or negative, if it's elevated to an even exponent, the result is always positive.

  • @blueblackphantom3839
    @blueblackphantom3839 3 года назад +2

    Use log e(ln) on both sides to get two cases, each having 2 real answers, first condition gives 6,7 and the second gives 2,5 and 3,4.

  • @pierrecurie
    @pierrecurie 4 года назад +6

    For x in (2,5), you have (negative real)^(real), so of course all the graphing software derps out.

  • @ErikBongers
    @ErikBongers 5 лет назад +7

    "So, how can we solve this problem? Well, imagine that you're stuck on this problem..."
    Check!

  • @artursanti3276
    @artursanti3276 6 лет назад +13

    My experience:
    1. Found the first two solutions (6,7) knowing that a^0=1 (if a is not 0) and solved. I was so proud and kept reproducing the video... Until it was said that there were 6 solutions...
    I was like :O
    Then I paused the video immediately and kept finding solutions.
    2. I found out that 1^a=1 as well (I realized it lately I know, I should've thought it) then solved and got other two solutions (5,2)
    In my calculator there is an option for you to evaluate values on a function, so I entered the given function and evaluated it for integers between 2 and 7 (because my answers were 2, 5, 6, 7, and my calculator only could receive values in intervals)...
    I found out that my answers were correct (equal to 1) but then realized that, unexpectedly, for 3 and 4, the answer was 1 as well (remember 3, 4 were in the given interval)...
    ...So yeah, basically I spoiled myself the last two solutions...
    3. After almost 5 minutes later I found out negative 1 can be counted as well but only if the power is even, then solved and checked and voilà, other two solutions (3,4).
    So... I can say that I am proud of myself... I guess

    • @sonpham3438
      @sonpham3438 6 лет назад

      Artur Santi, I mean that is kinda like hard solving for all the solutions lol. Many can do that

    • @razaahmed391
      @razaahmed391 5 лет назад

      Thanks for wasting my time!!

  • @gustavomarcelo6938
    @gustavomarcelo6938 2 года назад

    I found only 2,5,6,7 and didn't consider -1 to the power of an even number. I really like your videos and this one was amazing as always. Keep up the good work. Thanks for everything.

    • @mesory
      @mesory 2 года назад

      How about i^4n = 1 where n is an integer?

    • @daothitranhuyen
      @daothitranhuyen Год назад

      ​@@mesory the question only asks to find all the real solutions.

  • @tripwireuark3552
    @tripwireuark3552 3 года назад +9

    7! ... You are such a dork. I love it.

  • @MKD1101
    @MKD1101 6 лет назад +7

    *Good to know that Americans are improving in STEM fields!*

  • @rehanpatel8218
    @rehanpatel8218 5 лет назад +11

    we could also covert exponent to logarithmic and then log 1 to any base is zero, so we could equate x^2 -13x +42 with 0

  • @gokujp
    @gokujp 5 лет назад +23

    In vietnam , u may solve this problem in 1'

    • @ainultasneem7536
      @ainultasneem7536 5 лет назад +1

      1 minute?? And I thought the syllabus where I live is hard enough...

    • @minh9545
      @minh9545 5 лет назад

      yeah. 1 minute.

    • @sieraerlas2104
      @sieraerlas2104 5 лет назад

      How was that

    • @prakharrai8819
      @prakharrai8819 4 года назад +2

      1minute REALLY??????
      This is not worth more than 30 seconds

    • @guidolarenka9232
      @guidolarenka9232 4 года назад

      In India we can solve it with only 30s

  • @mysticdragonex815
    @mysticdragonex815 4 года назад +57

    That was a damn easy question!!!

    • @arrash4388
      @arrash4388 4 года назад

      Damn I'd love to know where you got that pfp, beautiful 😍

  • @Mn-Fe-N
    @Mn-Fe-N 5 лет назад +22

    I used logarithm on both sides of the equation and get x = 2,5,6,7 in 20 seconds but missed the negative case...

  • @wickedlitwick
    @wickedlitwick 3 года назад +1

    The desmos graph does get all the solutions, but you just can’t see it. For example, the graph wont show 3 even though it’s an answer. But that’s because it’s too small of a point to graph because number a little less than 3 like 2.9 or a little more like 3.1 is undefined. You can check that desmos does recognize the answer if you tell desmos to plug in 3 for x and then it will mark the point for you

    • @allozovsky
      @allozovsky 3 года назад

      It may also plot the graph of f(x) = x¹ᐟ³, taking it to be f(x) = ∛x, but it's up to you to decide whether it makes sense under your definition of rational powers. And the same goes for (-1)²·⁰ - if you treat it as a *real* power (that is exponentiation with real exponents), you need to check your definitions.

  • @rohitkannaujiya6325
    @rohitkannaujiya6325 6 лет назад +23

    It's 7! (FACTORIAL) not number 7

    • @aztecwarrior9729
      @aztecwarrior9729 5 лет назад

      No. 7! Means 7x6x5x4x3x2x1

    • @maulanax
      @maulanax 5 лет назад +5

      @@aztecwarrior9729 7 factorial is the same as 7x6x5x4x3x2x1. Learn math boy

    • @jhonreyvillena9766
      @jhonreyvillena9766 5 лет назад

      @@maulanax i think you must say this to Rohit Kanojia

    • @alexting827
      @alexting827 5 лет назад

      r/woosh

  • @fortymorgan
    @fortymorgan 3 года назад +7

    because of function is not defined on interval X = [~2.5, ~4.5], values 3 and 4 are not solving the equation

    • @glebsim
      @glebsim 3 года назад +3

      Amazing! Only one man noticed that the base is greater equal to 0, when exponent is real number! Otherwise it is not defined. Congratulations!

  • @purity_one
    @purity_one 3 года назад +37

    Why no one has noticed the mistake? We solve this equation in real numbers! Right ansver is 2, 5, 6, 7.

    • @igortelnuk
      @igortelnuk 3 года назад +2

      Because, we solving it for all real numbers x, but not in real numbers for all equation
      (Мы ищем действительные значения х, а не частей равенства)

    • @dmitriytoropov4918
      @dmitriytoropov4918 3 года назад +2

      @@igortelnuk Did you know that x ^ 2 -13x + 42 when x belongs to real numbers, the result will also be a real number? And when the exponent is a real number, the base of the exponent in negative numbers is undefined. That is, there are simply no such numbers.
      (А вы в курсе что x^2 -13x+42 при x принадлежащем действительным числам, результат тоже будет действительное число? А когда показатель степени действительное число, основание степени в отрицательных числах не определено. То есть таких чисел просто нет.)

    • @igortelnuk
      @igortelnuk 3 года назад

      @@dmitriytoropov4918 Did I know? Of course, I did.
      But this is true only when we are talking about the concept of a function. Or a general definition of a degree with a real exponent. Tell me, please, does the expression (-1) ^ 12, or (-1) ^ 6, or (x ^ 2-7x + 11) ^ 12 make sense? Are the numbers "3" and "4" real?
      В курсе ли я? Безусловно, да.
      Но это верно лишь когда мы говорим о понятии функции. Или общем определении степени с действительным показателем. Вот, скажите, имеет ли смысл выражение (-1)^12, или (-1)^6, или (x^2-7x+11)^12? Являются ли действительными числа "3" и "4"?

    • @SayXaNow
      @SayXaNow 3 года назад

      @@igortelnuk Как только мы говорим о решении в действительных числах, то любые операции с ними тоже рассматриваются как операции с действительными числами. 3 и 4 - действительные числа, x^2-7x+11 - тоже будет действительным и равным -1. Но не положительные действительные числа нельзя возводить в степень, поэтому ответ на ваш вопрос "Вот, скажите, имеет ли смысл выражение (-1)^12, или (-1)^6" только один, НЕТ не имеет, т.к. в данном контексте -1 является действительным числом.

    • @dmitriytoropov4918
      @dmitriytoropov4918 3 года назад

      ​@@igortelnuk ​ "But this is only true when we are talking about the concept of function. Or a general definition of a degree with a real exponent." I wonder where you got this heresy, give a link if it does not make it difficult)) General definition, because it works wherever there are no additional comments. That is, in your opinion, if we get in the equation (-1) ^ 12 where 12 is a real number, then everything including the general definition goes to hell? You can't even imagine the degree of your delusion))) Understand, in the case (-1) ^ 12 where 12 is a real number, you get a number that is not in mathematics, because there is no description (definition) for it. "Here, tell me, does the expression (-1) ^ 12, or (-1) ^ 6, or (x ^ 2-7x + 11) ^ 12 make sense?" Your question directly says that you do not understand the sets of numbers, because before the question you need to indicate on which set the problem is being considered (look in any mathematic book). "Are the numbers '3' and '4' valid?" Again misunderstanding)) of course they are real numbers, and not only natural and whole numbers. You propose to pick out integers on all graphs of a real variable. The graphs will then become intermittent))
      "Но это верно лишь когда мы говорим о понятии функции. Или общем определении степени с действительным показателем." Интересно где вы набрались этой ереси, скинте ссылку если не затруднит)) Общее определение, на то и общее, потому что работает везде где нет дополнительных замечаний. То есть по вашему если мы получим в уравнении (-1)^12 где 12 действительное число, то все идет лесом в том числе и общее определение? Вы даже не представляете степень своего заблуждения))) Поймите, в случае (-1)^12 где 12 действительное число вы получаете число которого нет в математике, потому что для него нет описания(определения). "Вот, скажите, имеет ли смысл выражение (-1)^12, или (-1)^6, или (x^2-7x+11)^12?" Ваш вопрос прямо говорит что вы не разбираетесь в множествах чисел, потому что перед вопросом надо указать на каком множестве рассматривается задача(загляните в любой учебник). "Являются ли действительными числа "3" и "4"?" Опять непонимание)) конечно они являются действительными числами, а не только натуральными и целыми. Вы предлагаете на всех графиках действительного переменного выкалывать целые числа. Графики тогда станут прерывистыми))

  • @麦老板
    @麦老板 3 года назад +1

    In this very case, noted that (x^2-13x+42) is definitely an even number, so case 1 and case 3 should be the same idea. But mostly, many student would neglect case 3

  • @Arpit.singh.
    @Arpit.singh. 6 лет назад +15

    What ????
    Very similar problem if not the same was asked in JEE mains exam in India only 3 minutes was given to solve!!!

  • @WhisDragonBallSuper
    @WhisDragonBallSuper 4 года назад +51

    Matlab and Maple: *Are we a joke to you*
    Php solvers have left the chat

    • @victorselve8349
      @victorselve8349 4 года назад +3

      Well Matlab gives you 2,5,6,7 if you force real solutions (otherwise it just jumps to the numeric solver and only finds 2)

    • @brightjovanny
      @brightjovanny 4 года назад +2

      What is Whis doing in Maths class? You should be fighting Merno.

    • @Wishuk112
      @Wishuk112 3 года назад +1

      Aren't you supposed to train goku?

    • @WhisDragonBallSuper
      @WhisDragonBallSuper 3 года назад

      @@brightjovanny that's just some bulma stuff

    • @WhisDragonBallSuper
      @WhisDragonBallSuper 3 года назад

      @@brightjovanny what's merno doesn't exist in my world?

  • @Avinash-01
    @Avinash-01 3 года назад +8

    The easiest questions on your channel😅.. I solved it in mind calculation

    • @TheMartian11
      @TheMartian11 3 года назад +2

      same dude. i guess we are both indian haha.
      i didn't get the 3rd case though, that was clever!

    • @AdityaRaj-pg8ip
      @AdityaRaj-pg8ip 3 года назад +1

      @@TheMartian11 same bro

  • @Maik55732
    @Maik55732 4 года назад

    I was so proud of getting the 4 solutions by myself but i didnt think about the case 3. Nice one man..

  • @namanmishra4244
    @namanmishra4244 5 лет назад +23

    And I just got 2 and 5 as answers by taking log at both side😂

    • @mks9879
      @mks9879 5 лет назад +2

      You can't take log base 0 brooo. It ruins the equality!!

    • @afareedullah2727
      @afareedullah2727 4 года назад

      @@MarieAnne. place the 3 and 4 to the equation and check

  • @edwardbartolo6382
    @edwardbartolo6382 5 лет назад +4

    This equation can EASILY be solved on ANY COMPUTER with Microsoft Excel or the Open Office Calc (similar to Excel). No, there is absolutely no need of any mathematics software besides that.

    • @bhanuchhabra7634
      @bhanuchhabra7634 5 лет назад

      If you can point to any video, tutorial where excel can solve this

    • @edwardbartolo6382
      @edwardbartolo6382 5 лет назад +1

      @@bhanuchhabra7634 There is no need of the existence of such a video for what I claimed to be real. Two columns are enough to solve this.
      i) Use the first to create a list of numbers starting from -N up to +N. Use a small increment, like 0.01. Start with numbers -N, then use for the second cell -N + 0.01. Use dragging to fill the entire column with numbers incrementing as I described.
      ii) In the next column top cell write the expression with X replaced by a reference to the first cell in the first column. Do not use cell anchors.
      Drag the cell bottom left handle to fill the entire column with results.
      iii) Those cells containing 1 as a result correspond to a solution.

    • @gaurishgarg6911
      @gaurishgarg6911 4 года назад

      It's very easy for matlab users

  • @rbkstudios2923
    @rbkstudios2923 5 лет назад +5

    Heard About IIT JEE ADVANCED
    This problem was nothing compared to the problems asked in that exam

    • @foreverandalwaysgfriend6669
      @foreverandalwaysgfriend6669 5 лет назад +1

      ?

    • @rbkstudios2923
      @rbkstudios2923 5 лет назад +1

      @@foreverandalwaysgfriend6669 What?
      IIT JEE ADVANCED
      In India....
      ....Asia....
      ....On Earth...
      😃
      Sorry just kidding
      If u wanna know more
      Then you must Google it
      If u can understand English Bro

    • @foreverandalwaysgfriend6669
      @foreverandalwaysgfriend6669 5 лет назад +2

      @@rbkstudios2923 I have heard about IIT JEE ADVANCED. and I have even seen a few question papers. To me, an outsider, it looks boring (because it heavily relies on memory). That is the hard part, that it relies on memory. Mathematics isn't about knowing a formula and being to use it in a limited amount of time. I feel that JEE does not represent the true beauty of a Math exam.
      Moreover I have read that many of the candidates prepare for the JEE by familiarising themselves with the problems from the many question papers they have collected. This itself supports the claim that the exam is more of a memory test.
      But I may be wrong if what I have read are false.
      But do compare with the Olympiad questions, those are the questions that help the students explore.
      ---
      But hey, if the exam works in finding the best minds in the country, who am I to judge it.
      ---
      To conclude: Many knows that the derivative of x^2 wrt x is 2x (just by plugging in n=2 in the generalised formula of the derivative for x^n). But how many can explain why it is 2x?
      ----

    • @rbkstudios2923
      @rbkstudios2923 5 лет назад

      @@foreverandalwaysgfriend6669
      No dude
      Although it's not false that it's preparation must include checking of previous years question papers
      As some typical questions are repeatedly asked in that exam with changed figures but the same method of solving
      Yet it has beautiful and logical question as well
      They ask application based questions
      So they expect us to remember basic formulation
      It is really something else
      I've realized that what we learn for entrance exam, in many countries it is taught in 2nd or 3rd year of B.Sc courses
      And as for the derivative
      I know that almost 90% of my batch mates could derive that with 1st Principles of Differentiation
      And more 65% could explain that with proper logic
      No offence bro
      I too am weak in mathematics
      And I sometimes also hate that people who practice previous years paper get almost 2 questions in seconds in the actual examination

    • @rbkstudios2923
      @rbkstudios2923 5 лет назад

      @@foreverandalwaysgfriend6669
      Where are you from?
      'Coz it's night here with clock hands pointing at 2:16

  • @ehabgoda887
    @ehabgoda887 3 года назад

    I am not specialised in maths, but I love it. And these videos make me love maths even more

  • @Abhisruta
    @Abhisruta 6 лет назад +10

    This question is very very important for CMI, ISI in India... I have solved it in class 9