Great videos you have done on this Remington revolving carbine! I just bought one couple weeks ago and love it after getting the Taylors 45 Colt conversion cylinder for it. I shoot low level 230 and 250 gr. lead loads and it is a surprising accurate shooter and very light and handy to get on target. Hitting my 8 inch swinging plates from 40 yds. standing position was no issue. Love the sights which are MUCH better than the ones on my 1858 Remington revolver...my 70 year old eyes have no issue getting on target. Have the conversion cylinder for my Remington revolver and now a pair of them to go with either one now! I think this is the lightest weight 45 Colt carbine you can find!
Old timey rifles with that shape butt get shouldered completely different than modern rifles. Hold your arm straight out, and put the point under your armpit so the butt cradles the meat of your shoulder. This brings the sight picture inline without craning your neck and you can draw it in tight for a rock solid hold. I shoulder my Uberti Remington carbine and my Traditions Kentucky rifle this way and it fits and feels perfect. I read that on some forum quite some time back and it completely changed my shooting experience with blackpowder.
I humbly submit an idea for content: apparently , Colt originally intended the first notch of the Hammer to truly be a Safety Notch so you could load all six .Can this be tested ? . Just a suggestion .Great content .
From what I understand the same reason they still loaded 5 instead of six even with this feature was that having the hammer on that first click left it on a very fragile position of the action, and hitting the hammer with something (the same thing that would cause a cartridge to go off with 6) would break that part of the action and still ultimately end up dropping the hammer onto a live round. Hopefully this is an understandable explanation, I’m not the best when it comes to gun parts and their proper names.
Chainfire is not an issue if you load it properly. Those guys either werent using felt wads, lube over balls or wrong size caps. Design of gun won't cause it.
@@thegulagshow325 I have a bp rifle and pistol, been shooting both for YEARS and NEVER had a chainfire. That ONLY occurs when you do not seat and seal balls with lube or felt wads and use wrong size nipples. Idiots who DONT know this can get a chainfire, just as idiots using cartridge guns can also have issues if using wrong size ammo, fail to clean or properly maintain their weapon. LEARN THE FACTS BEFORE YOU RUN YOUR MOUTH.
i'm excited to watch this. i was watching your videos on the pietta 1851 navy because i might be getting one as my first blackpowder firearm. these little revolving carbines i bet would be good for hunting decently small game
@@scottp4077 i personally dont mind if the gun isnt completely historically accurate, so long as it maintains decent quality . i have been looking at one of the .44 steel frame pietta reproductions
Thank you for the very helpful suggestion of wearing a bandana to protect your face. I also use a pair of compact safety goggles to completely protect my eyes when I shoot the 1858 carbine.
Have you ever checked out the Rossi/Taurus CircuitJudge revolving carbine rifle/shotgun? It ca fire ether 410/410 shotgun slugs or 45 Long Colt ammunition. Wile it is a more modern double action cartridge & shell shooting firearm and it’s only a five shot it is still a lot of fun 😎
I paid 400 dollars this past summer for my Uberti 1858 new model army revolver from Dixie gun works but I paid almost 300 dollars for the Howell .45 colt cartridge conversion cylinder I bought for it from midway USA. Not long after I purchased them items in late August the prices went up as did the price for the HSM .45 colt 200 grain cowboy loads. In late August I scored a couple of boxes of them for about 95 dollars at the Cabela’s outlet in Hamburg PA. but now it would cost over a hundred bucks for a couple of boxes of them
Consider purchasing a .45 long colt reloading kit, a lead pot, a 200 & 250 grain bullet mold and load your own ammo. A 100 Brass cartridge cases will last until the rim cracks.
There were also a quantity of revolver shotguns made back in those days. Severely "lobed" 4-chamber cylinders as I recall about the photos I've seen of them. Those severely pointy crescent butt plates were not meant to be literally shouldered, but to be put against the upper arm.
That is actually the 1855 Colt revolving Rifle in .44 or .56 caliber. Spanish Gun manufacturer, ARSA is interested in future production of it probably in either caliber.
I shoot the Remington carbine competitively and use one of those neck socks to prevent powder blowback. Placing a small towel between the butt stock and shoulder eliminates discomfort when firing the rifle. That curved butt stock, I believe was used in combat to inflict facial damage. Always wear safety glasses to protect the eyes. Lastly, it very accurate at 25 & 50 yards utilize the ramp slide on rear sight. The first land is 25, next is 50, next is 100 and the top is 120 yards. I have placed 5 shots at 100 yards though not grouped. I found one hunter that has taken deer with a 100 yard shot. The best way for accuracy is using X - cross sticks. I shoot like that since 2008 and take ribbons from 1st to 4th. I use a .454 ball on top of 30 grains of 3Fg powder.
Thank You for this video, I'm contemplating buying one now and was wondering the exact questions you answered. I didn't know about the Heritage 22 gun. I might like one of those also for the many squrills I have that get in my attic.
That Uberti 1858 carbine would probably work so well with a Howell drop in .45 colt cartridge conversion cylinder. It would make such a great 20 yard plinker with that cylinder shooting HSM .45 colt 200 grain cowboy loads
I ordered a Remington after watching your videos. Delivery in May. I need to order a cap tool from 22LRReloader. Does a #10 or #11 fit? Look forward to your next video.
I'm assuming you can swap the cylinder out to shoot metallic cartridges in the Remington Revolving Carbine like you can with the New Model Army Revolver?
Another trick to hold it where it's more stable, is to hold your right elbow with your left hand. Then your right hand rest on your left inner. elbow. Similar to folding your arms over your chest. 🙏🐺
Concerning the topic of Remington carbine and its stocks shape, if i recall correctly similar shape is present in number of BP rifles(hawkens?) and its the shape you are meant to put on your arm/biceps region, instead of 'the usual one' on your shoulder. Its shaped this way, because back then they intented to use it differently.
Why hasn't anyone reproduced the Colt revolving carbines and shotguns?? It seems they wouldn't be any more dangerous than the Remington carbines, although on the Colt I would beef up the cylinders and not 🚫 flute them!!
@@pedroh.appaloosa2105 That's who came up with the terms. Colt Model P is how Colt described them. 7.5" was the barrel length for the original contract, which was for the US Calvary. For a later contract, some of these were returned to Colt, the barrels cut down to 5.5", and issued to artillery troops and teamsters, hence Artillery. One of the distributors may have first used the Gunfighter designation for 4.75", which sounded better than Horse Killer, which was an important use for them. If a horse threw you, you could be dragged to death pretty easily. That's the REAL reason so many people carried handguns, to kill runaway horses.
The butt of the gun is shaped as such to be shot off the bicep, not the scoulder. Many original guns of the time were built as such. Doing that will solve your complaint.
@@GunsOfTheWest I own a Uberti 45colt revolving carbine, I'm 5'9", and shooting from a bench is the only time when it's not always guaranteed comfy. Offhand standing it's very mild and pleasant, though. Also own a few muzzleloaders with a similar crescent buttplate such as a custom underhammer and they are much much pleasant even from a bench. I guess it's different for everyone, but everyone who has shot mine and used that same form largely had their discomfort go away.
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Great videos you have done on this Remington revolving carbine! I just bought one couple weeks ago and love it after getting the Taylors 45 Colt conversion cylinder for it. I shoot low level 230 and 250 gr. lead loads and it is a surprising accurate shooter and very light and handy to get on target. Hitting my 8 inch swinging plates from 40 yds. standing position was no issue. Love the sights which are MUCH better than the ones on my 1858 Remington revolver...my 70 year old eyes have no issue getting on target. Have the conversion cylinder for my Remington revolver and now a pair of them to go with either one now! I think this is the lightest weight 45 Colt carbine you can find!
I just got into black powder. I guess you could say I have a "blast" with it...😮.
Old timey rifles with that shape butt get shouldered completely different than modern rifles.
Hold your arm straight out, and put the point under your armpit so the butt cradles the meat of your shoulder. This brings the sight picture inline without craning your neck and you can draw it in tight for a rock solid hold. I shoulder my Uberti Remington carbine and my Traditions Kentucky rifle this way and it fits and feels perfect. I read that on some forum quite some time back and it completely changed my shooting experience with blackpowder.
^^^^this
I’ve read that before too, but I have the same problem either way. It may be a tall people issue.
I find place a folded hand towel between the butt and shoulder alleviate discomfort.
I have the Uberti .44. Very stable and accurate freestanding up to 100yds. Fun shooter.
Thanks for making this video. These guns look so cool, but I think more people need to pay attention to the safety considerations!
I love the revolving carbines
I humbly submit an idea for content: apparently , Colt originally intended the first notch of the Hammer to truly be a Safety Notch so you could load all six .Can this be tested ? .
Just a suggestion .Great content .
From what I understand the same reason they still loaded 5 instead of six even with this feature was that having the hammer on that first click left it on a very fragile position of the action, and hitting the hammer with something (the same thing that would cause a cartridge to go off with 6) would break that part of the action and still ultimately end up dropping the hammer onto a live round. Hopefully this is an understandable explanation, I’m not the best when it comes to gun parts and their proper names.
I recall they were tried in Australia, before it was Australia, by the New South Wales Police and universally hated. Flashover was a big issue.
Chainfire is not an issue if you load it properly.
Those guys either werent using felt wads, lube over balls or wrong size caps.
Design of gun won't cause it.
History is not your strong point is it?
@@therightisright8276 chainfire is the issue plaguing most revolvers using black powder
@@thegulagshow325 I have a bp rifle and pistol, been shooting both for YEARS and NEVER had a chainfire.
That ONLY occurs when you do not seat and seal balls with lube or felt wads and use wrong size nipples.
Idiots who DONT know this can get a chainfire, just as idiots using cartridge guns can also have issues if using wrong size ammo, fail to clean or properly maintain their weapon.
LEARN THE FACTS BEFORE YOU RUN YOUR MOUTH.
@@therightisright8276 sometimes in the heat of combat you accidentally dont load it well and a chainfire could happen
I like it when burning powder hits my face. Makes me feel alive.
Atta boy. Spoken like a man!!
For a few dollars more lee van cleef had a attachment where you can put a stock on your revolver
i'm excited to watch this. i was watching your videos on the pietta 1851 navy because i might be getting one as my first blackpowder firearm. these little revolving carbines i bet would be good for hunting decently small game
I just bought a 51' navy. It's a lot of fun and a great starter gun!
@@scottp4077 did you get steel frame or brass, also what caliber is yours in
@@shadbanta14 I bought both. I got them in .44 even though it's not period correct.
@@scottp4077 i personally dont mind if the gun isnt completely historically accurate, so long as it maintains decent quality . i have been looking at one of the .44 steel frame pietta reproductions
Thank you for the very helpful suggestion of wearing a bandana to protect your face. I also use a pair of compact safety goggles to completely protect my eyes when I shoot the 1858 carbine.
Have you ever checked out the Rossi/Taurus CircuitJudge revolving carbine rifle/shotgun? It ca fire ether 410/410 shotgun slugs or 45 Long Colt ammunition. Wile it is a more modern double action cartridge & shell shooting firearm and it’s only a five shot it is still a lot of fun 😎
I paid 400 dollars this past summer for my Uberti 1858 new model army revolver from Dixie gun works but I paid almost 300 dollars for the Howell .45 colt cartridge conversion cylinder I bought for it from midway USA. Not long after I purchased them items in late August the prices went up as did the price for the HSM .45 colt 200 grain cowboy loads. In late August I scored a couple of boxes of them for about 95 dollars at the Cabela’s outlet in Hamburg PA. but now it would cost over a hundred bucks for a couple of boxes of them
Consider purchasing a .45 long colt reloading kit, a lead pot, a 200 & 250 grain bullet mold and load your own ammo. A 100 Brass cartridge cases will last until the rim cracks.
I like them both but 22 is my favorite caliber
There were also a quantity of revolver shotguns made back in those days. Severely "lobed" 4-chamber cylinders as I recall about the photos I've seen of them.
Those severely pointy crescent butt plates were not meant to be literally shouldered, but to be put against the upper arm.
In the movie El Dorado, the character Bull used a revolving carbine. It's fun to watch for the actor's mistakes in handling it.
I need to watch that one again. It’s been a while.
That is actually the 1855 Colt revolving Rifle in .44 or .56 caliber. Spanish Gun manufacturer, ARSA is interested in future production of it probably in either caliber.
I shoot the Remington carbine competitively and use one of those neck socks to prevent powder blowback. Placing a small towel between the butt stock and shoulder eliminates discomfort when firing the rifle. That curved butt stock, I believe was used in combat to inflict facial damage. Always wear safety glasses to protect the eyes. Lastly, it very accurate at 25 & 50 yards utilize the ramp slide on rear sight. The first land is 25, next is 50, next is 100 and the top is 120 yards. I have placed 5 shots at 100 yards though not grouped. I found one hunter that has taken deer with a 100 yard shot. The best way for accuracy is using X - cross sticks. I shoot like that since 2008 and take ribbons from 1st to 4th. I use a .454 ball on top of 30 grains of 3Fg powder.
The curved stock goes in between the shoulder and bicept not the shoulder.
Yeah, I’ve read that, but it doesn’t solve the problem for me. For shorter people, it might.
@@GunsOfTheWest Not fair to blame the gun if you are too big for it. That said, I don't like mine either.
I think that 44 needs a stock about 4 in longer and a flater end on it.
Thank You for this video, I'm contemplating buying one now and was wondering the exact questions you answered. I didn't know about the Heritage 22 gun. I might like one of those also for the many squrills I have that get in my attic.
great video love to to see them. keep up the good work
I’ve got a Remington and in thinking of adding a Schutzen rifle palm rest to the underside of the barrel and doing a cartridge conversion on it.
Historically they would use the ram rods as a vertical foregrip
That Uberti 1858 carbine would probably work so well with a Howell drop in .45 colt cartridge conversion cylinder. It would make such a great 20 yard plinker with that cylinder shooting HSM .45 colt 200 grain cowboy loads
That is correct. I have a howell cylinder in mine. It's surprisingly accurate, even at a hundred yards.
Cool gun and video
We can see Colnel Douglas Moriner aka Lee Vaan Cleef using this beauty in the movie "For a few dollars more"😅
I've had my Uberti since 1994.
Have you herd of anyone putting a conversion cylinder on one of these
I’ve done it and recently posted a video of it.
I ordered a Remington after watching your videos. Delivery in May. I need to order a cap tool from 22LRReloader. Does a #10 or #11 fit? Look forward to your next video.
I'm assuming you can swap the cylinder out to shoot metallic cartridges in the Remington Revolving Carbine like you can with the New Model Army Revolver?
Yes.
Another trick to hold it where it's more stable, is to hold your right elbow with your left hand. Then your right hand rest on your left inner. elbow. Similar to folding your arms over your chest. 🙏🐺
Concerning the topic of Remington carbine and its stocks shape, if i recall correctly similar shape is present in number of BP rifles(hawkens?) and its the shape you are meant to put on your arm/biceps region, instead of 'the usual one' on your shoulder.
Its shaped this way, because back then they intented to use it differently.
That is correct. For guys my size though, it makes no difference. LOL!
@@GunsOfTheWest The biceps is just too damn massive from holding those Walkers up? :^)
@@Observer413 LOL!!! Must be!
I think the curved butt stock was a close combat weapon, striking the face with it would break facial bones easily.
That 44 has a different rear sight what is it and how did it or dose it work I have a 44 as well but would like a rear sight like yours
Salesmen in the late 1800s he like : “Revolving carbines, a GREAT way to lose your hand to a chain fire !!” 😂🤷♂️
You're not supposed to shoulder a "Kentucky" style buttstock on the should like a modern gun. It goes on the arm, where it meets the shoulder.
I realize that, but the hold is even worse for me that way. Maybe for shorter people, it may help.
Why no handguard ? ah yes, wrist shredder.
How hard would it be to equip one of these with a hand shield and a stock?
I have one of these.but can't find makers name.how can I identify this
Why hasn't anyone reproduced the Colt revolving carbines and shotguns?? It seems they wouldn't be any more dangerous than the Remington carbines, although on the Colt I would beef up the cylinders and not 🚫 flute them!!
because like 3 people would buy one
There was a run of 1855s several years ago.
What age can you buy them at is it 21 or 18??
Deveria ser dublado ou legendado. Por que não fazem?
No, you should learn English if watching videos made in English.
Why should Americans cater to YOU?
He’s the one who knocks.
Muito legal 👍👍👏👏🇧🇷🇧🇷
I didn’t want to be the first commenter!
I think I would rather have a Taurus Circuit Judge.
Everybody is complaining about powder splashing their face with this remington 🙂
What is the difference between the colt 45 cavalry/artillery/gunfighter models?
Were the gunfighter model real in the old West times?
Calvary 7.5" barrel, Artillery 5.5" Gunfighter 4.75", all collector designations.
@@brettbaker5599 why collector designations?
@@pedroh.appaloosa2105 That's who came up with the terms. Colt Model P is how Colt described them. 7.5" was the barrel length for the original contract, which was for the US Calvary. For a later contract, some of these were returned to Colt, the barrels cut down to 5.5", and issued to artillery troops and teamsters, hence Artillery. One of the distributors may have first used the Gunfighter designation for 4.75", which sounded better than Horse Killer, which was an important use for them. If a horse threw you, you could be dragged to death pretty easily. That's the REAL reason so many people carried handguns, to kill runaway horses.
Would it make sense in any sort of pdw way in that time periode ?
Please forgive my ignorance. I don't understand the "pdw."
@@michaelpriest6242PDW: Personal defense weapon.
I also don’t want to be the first!!!
easiest way to get a revolver in canada
1849 pocket takes 321 dixie gun works.
321 Dixie Gun Works what?
@@3ducs 1849 pocket or wells fargo.Dixie gun sells 321 balls softlead.
Wrong video soory.
Save your money an get two 1860 army pistols
Had one ..percussion..didn't like it.
The butt of the gun is shaped as such to be shot off the bicep, not the scoulder. Many original guns of the time were built as such. Doing that will solve your complaint.
Yeah, I’ve read that, but no, it doesn’t solve the problem for me. For shorter people, it might.
@@GunsOfTheWest I own a Uberti 45colt revolving carbine, I'm 5'9", and shooting from a bench is the only time when it's not always guaranteed comfy. Offhand standing it's very mild and pleasant, though. Also own a few muzzleloaders with a similar crescent buttplate such as a custom underhammer and they are much much pleasant even from a bench. I guess it's different for everyone, but everyone who has shot mine and used that same form largely had their discomfort go away.