My mom introduced me to these tapes and this is by far the best message ive ever heard. I wasnt entirely sold on the big book until I heard it through there mouths this ia the cutting edge of spiritual tools for living. Anyone can benefit from this alcoholic or not. What a great message and great senses of humor these guys had. Its a shame to think how much the major points in the book are overlooked. " became willing to become willing to become willing that there IS a power greater than myself" ❤
That is why I always say there is piss poor sponsorship today , who think "time" makes a sponsor. A Good sponsor will take you through the BB , page by page , sentence by sentence. Having a 1st step Experience is crucial !! Our program is a 3 part disease , 3 part solution. Someone who takes me through the steps "must" have a daily meditation practice and have ALL amends done. And as good measure , reads 84-88 daily 👍
@@bryanr.3241 There is a problem in the rooms, in that there are people who are running their own program, which is their self will and ego running the show. And then passing this onto others who no surprise do not recover. And there are also lots of hard drinkers who are in the rooms who haven't even done the steps, read the book or helped another alcoholic, telling people you don't need to do the steps. Which is fine if that person is not an alcoholic as defined in the book. But awful if they are. We can only pass on THE message as trusted servants but it's so frustrating to see and hear the message getting diluted or misunderstood. I wish everyone had to listen to this tape before they were allowed into the rooms. It would make a great difference.
I found his tapes 2 years ago. I was homeless, looking for treatment. I searched the treatment center he founded and discovered what I had suspected, that he changed his scenery.
@@dm8127 I looked on line for Mark's Men's Recovery Center, he was not on the staff roster or in any photos. I discovered in more recent tapes that he wasn't with us anymore. I attended a treatment program connected with the homeless shelter I wound up in.
I wish i could have met both mark and joe.. they truly helped me understand the book, aa, and my own issues better. Its nice to laugh as well. Im grateful for these recordings .. without them i would not have gotten the real message and realized what i need to do to get and stay sober. They are both great speakers and members in aa. Thank you
Being reintroduced to NA and AA in the time of COVID (and Hurricane Laura). These recordings have helped this be the first time I actually, finally, understand. 41 days clean.
Amazing. Alcoholics Anonymous IS the first 164 pages of the Big Book titled Alcoholics Anonymous applied in my life. And an AA talk IS Big Book manifested in their EXPERIENCES. AA is NOT Group Therapy; NOT Opinions and NOT Self Help. It's Self Abandonment through helping others.
I first listened to Mark and Joe back in 2008 or 2009. Fantastic that this tape is available on RUclips. They are incredible speakers. Very deep connection with the steps. I am Sad that they are both gone 💙💙
Mark and Joe so sad they are both gone , they gave so much wisdom in the teaching of the program of recovery, and special thanks to Don p who was there sponsor
Thank you for sharing this miss y'all just for today. Welcome all the New people!! You're the most important persons in the room at this time I heard that 38yrs ago!! AA works for those who want it not need it!! LOVE you dearly!! The steps working with another sick person sharing your experience strength and hope with other Honestly. Be. Honest is the key we're spiritually physically and mentally different from other people normal people who ever that is!! And finding a place God of your understanding that works for me not with out heart ache but without booze not with out pain and sorrow but without booze sometimes a heartbeat at a time but without booze.just for the grace of God goes I!!! always remember that Ego means edging God out!! Keep it simple stupid!! Principals always before personalities always remember that and it's not the time it's the the quality at we age in this gift so freely given to us at times for me it's better for me too take more cotton outta my ears now and listen to others this program will always be a learning experience for me for the rest of my life Amen 🙏 hallelujah every 24 hrs
got a fair few amends around the world on my list. with what we know now about climate change is flying around the world not going to cause more harm to other? It's a great talk but I honestly feel like locking myself in a room and never leaving again.
Listening to this, I hear a lot of good stuff, but I also heard them saying a lot of stuff is wrong basically because it doesn't apply to them. They even say that that story freedom from bondage, that the person is wrong for praying for that resentment for 2 weeks.
I agree with almost everything he said with one exception - once we formally go through steps 1-9 we now have a working formula that will now continue by the practicing of steps 10th and 11th step - this is where we now practice the principles in all our affairs there is NO WHERE in the Big Book where it suggests to go through 1-9 repeatedly - all the principles are embodied in steps 10 and 11 - this is one persons interpretation or how they chose to work THEIR program ! and if it works for them great ! however that method describes a year after year staying in a spiritual kindergarten which Bill W addresses in many grape vine articles - going through the steps 1-9 over and over is like going through school and when you get to the 9th grade you go back to 1st grade - the big book is clear in step 10 when it states OUR NEXT FUNCTION is to grow in effectiveness and understanding of what we've JUST DONE - = (1-9 ),,, VISION for you completes that statement stating this ask him in your morning meditation of what you can do for the man who still suffer's but See to it FIRST that your own house in in order ( 11th step INVENTORY ) God will disclose to you ! etc.. etc.. but remember your real reliance is on him ! in short GOD gave us the steps to DISTRACT US - WHILE HE CHANGES US ! it makes no intellectual sense ( most spiritual truths never do ) but when we do the work on daily inventory , prayer , meditation the miracle happens by no effort of our own these short comings lessen and eventually disappear that is the tremendous Fact of those few who actually work the un watered down version of the AA program - those who don't twist the program to make it fit their methodology in stead the conform to it !
My mom introduced me to these tapes and this is by far the best message ive ever heard. I wasnt entirely sold on the big book until I heard it through there mouths this ia the cutting edge of spiritual tools for living. Anyone can benefit from this alcoholic or not. What a great message and great senses of humor these guys had. Its a shame to think how much the major points in the book are overlooked. " became willing to become willing to become willing that there IS a power greater than myself" ❤
That is why I always say there is piss poor sponsorship today , who think "time" makes a sponsor. A Good sponsor will take you through the BB , page by page , sentence by sentence. Having a 1st step Experience is crucial !! Our program is a 3 part disease , 3 part solution.
Someone who takes me through the steps "must" have a daily meditation practice and have ALL amends done. And as good measure , reads 84-88 daily 👍
@@bryanr.3241 There is a problem in the rooms, in that there are people who are running their own program, which is their self will and ego running the show. And then passing this onto others who no surprise do not recover. And there are also lots of hard drinkers who are in the rooms who haven't even done the steps, read the book or helped another alcoholic, telling people you don't need to do the steps. Which is fine if that person is not an alcoholic as defined in the book. But awful if they are. We can only pass on THE message as trusted servants but it's so frustrating to see and hear the message getting diluted or misunderstood. I wish everyone had to listen to this tape before they were allowed into the rooms. It would make a great difference.
@@AlexanderBuck1973 well said 👏 👏👏👏 thank you 👍
Yes
@@AlexanderBuck1973 I must agree with you that is a fact!
What a hole that was left in AA with Marks passing...Thank God for this site...Much Gratitude
I found his tapes 2 years ago. I was homeless, looking for treatment. I searched the treatment center he founded and discovered what I had suspected, that he changed his scenery.
@@willdenham what do you mean? Did you attend Benchmark Recovery?
@@dm8127 I looked on line for Mark's Men's Recovery Center, he was not on the staff roster or in any photos. I discovered in more recent tapes that he wasn't with us anymore. I attended a treatment program connected with the homeless shelter I wound up in.
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I wish i could have met both mark and joe.. they truly helped me understand the book, aa, and my own issues better. Its nice to laugh as well. Im grateful for these recordings .. without them i would not have gotten the real message and realized what i need to do to get and stay sober. They are both great speakers and members in aa. Thank you
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Being reintroduced to NA and AA in the time of COVID (and Hurricane Laura). These recordings have helped this be the first time I actually, finally, understand.
41 days clean.
Fantastic!! Keep on keeping on!!
hello how are u doing now
I get chills throughout this, but the last hour. Wow. I mean wow.
Amazing. Alcoholics Anonymous IS the first 164 pages of the Big Book titled Alcoholics Anonymous applied in my life. And an AA talk IS Big Book manifested in their EXPERIENCES. AA is NOT Group Therapy; NOT Opinions and NOT Self Help. It's Self Abandonment through helping others.
My sponsor John S introduced me to Mark and Joe. "Depth and Weight".... Finally! This message held my interest! 👍🙂↕️
I love these guys(RIP). Thanks for the upload, this is coming with me.
Worthy, substantive, important, helpful!
I'm so grateful to be a member of Alcoholics anonymous 🙏, great workshop.
Me too
Nice to hear these tapes. Thank you. I've been emancipated from alcohol since 19 83. So wondreful to be always sober and learning !
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I love it, thanks for this amazing contribution.
Great testimonials, knowledge, n wisdom. One moment at a time fellows.
I first listened to Mark and Joe back in 2008 or 2009. Fantastic that this tape is available on RUclips. They are incredible speakers. Very deep connection with the steps. I am Sad that they are both gone 💙💙
Thank you so much to Mark and Joe..it's so much more than putting the plug in the jug..
Great teachings and insights.
Breaking down how the ego and stage characters operate.
It is so refreshing to hear truth
Verry profound and explicit. Thank you Mark and Joe
Awesome!!!!!
I needed this, many thanks.
God bless the divine souls of Mark & Joe, to Rest in Peace.💐💝🛐
Mark and Joe so sad they are both gone , they gave so much wisdom in the teaching of the program of recovery, and special thanks to Don p who was there sponsor
Wayne B privileged to be in the sponsorship line. My last year of recovery has been fundamentally different
Love the idea 😸😍 k or something like on a date 🙂🤣🤣😂😂
AA member sent me here 💚🙏🏿
Me to!!!
Thank you for sharing this miss y'all just for today. Welcome all the New people!! You're the most important persons in the room at this time I heard that 38yrs ago!! AA works for those who want it not need it!! LOVE you dearly!! The steps working with another sick person sharing your experience strength and hope with other Honestly. Be. Honest is the key we're spiritually physically and mentally different from other people normal people who ever that is!! And finding a place God of your understanding that works for me not with out heart ache but without booze not with out pain and sorrow but without booze sometimes a heartbeat at a time but without booze.just for the grace of God goes I!!! always remember that Ego means edging God out!! Keep it simple stupid!! Principals always before personalities always remember that and it's not the time it's the the quality at we age in this gift so freely given to us at times for me it's better for me too take more cotton outta my ears now and listen to others this program will always be a learning experience for me for the rest of my life Amen 🙏 hallelujah every 24 hrs
Thank you 🙏🙏🙏🔥
R.i.p to my niggas joe hawk and mark houston. The ripple effect of sobriety they pioneered is proof god works through us
Why would you call them your niggas which is rude for a start and they are both white like yourself I think you need a spiritual awakening I think 😂
Mark continues to save my ass.
Anyone know the title of the book Mark reads from several time by Anthony Demille(?)
Yes! It’s titled “Awareness” making us wake up! Awesome book
Thank you so much Sally!! I've gone ahead and ordered it!!
@@leaheiselman4674 How is the book?
David M - I’m loving the book Awareness by Anthony De Mello. Highly recommend.
@@leaheiselman4674 Thank you. I've just ordered it too. I appreciate your response.
Love it good stuff
Buenas noches saludos a todos 🤘
"My life is no longer my business."
WHere can we find the list Mark reads for the 6th step? The sacrament of penance, I can t find it...
found it : Self-Examination
From Saint Augustineís Prayer Book
Do either of you know where the list of "myths in AA" can be obtained? Thanks
@@NickValenzuela1989 have you tried Google ? Might find it there.
Does anyone have access to the list "myths of aa" he was reading from?
Yes
@@gregorynoble146 where do we find this list
Awesome
Great great great grand sponsor Joe
Is there anyone who got to work with this man i would like to go threw the work with them
Send me an email, sobrietyyizlyf@gmail.com. I'll connect you with someone
Absolutely!
why so many dislikes?
Right ? I deleted my post about it because someone doesn't understand Rule 62. 👍
Glad your here ✌
got a fair few amends around the world on my list. with what we know now about climate change is flying around the world not going to cause more harm to other? It's a great talk but I honestly feel like locking myself in a room and never leaving again.
You must be joking.
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Listening to this, I hear a lot of good stuff, but I also heard them saying a lot of stuff is wrong basically because it doesn't apply to them. They even say that that story freedom from bondage, that the person is wrong for praying for that resentment for 2 weeks.
Buenas tardes saludos a todos
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106 thumbs down have you been restored to sanity?
113 thumbs down?
May be accidentally hit. I just checked mine and I must have hit dislike by accident. I switched it. But I’ve listened to it many times
Seaside mark
I agree with almost everything he said with one exception - once we formally go through steps 1-9 we now have a working formula that will now continue by the practicing of steps 10th and 11th step - this is where we now practice the principles in all our affairs there is NO WHERE in the Big Book where it suggests to go through 1-9 repeatedly - all the principles are embodied in steps 10 and 11 - this is one persons interpretation or how they chose to work THEIR program ! and if it works for them great ! however that method describes a year after year staying in a spiritual kindergarten which Bill W addresses in many grape vine articles - going through the steps 1-9 over and over is like going through school and when you get to the 9th grade you go back to 1st grade - the big book is clear in step 10 when it states OUR NEXT FUNCTION is to grow in effectiveness and understanding of what we've JUST DONE - = (1-9 ),,, VISION for you completes that statement stating this ask him in your morning meditation of what you can do for the man who still suffer's but See to it FIRST that your own house in in order ( 11th step INVENTORY ) God will disclose to you ! etc.. etc.. but remember your real reliance is on him ! in short GOD gave us the steps to DISTRACT US - WHILE HE CHANGES US ! it makes no intellectual sense ( most spiritual truths never do ) but when we do the work on daily inventory , prayer , meditation the miracle happens by no effort of our own these short comings lessen and eventually disappear that is the tremendous Fact of those few who actually work the un watered down version of the AA program - those who don't twist the program to make it fit their methodology in stead the conform to it !