Mubahala Curse and Prophet Muhammad's Demise - Exposing False Claims | Islamic Debate

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  • Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
  • Explore the fascinating world of Islamic history as we scrutinize the Mubahala event and its significance for Prophet Muhammad. In this deep dive into Islamic debate, we're here to debunk misconceptions and false claims that link the Mubahala challenge to the later passings of Prophet Muhammad and his family. Unveil the context, analyze inaccuracies, and discover the real story that clarifies this aspect of Islamic theology and history.
    To summarize:
    1) The author claims the Mubahala (curse) event was the reason the Prophet and his family died when the Mubahala was never accepted by the Christians of Najran
    2) The Author claims that the Muhabala curse would occur within the first year, yet Ali, Hasan, and Hussain died decades later. Again, total disconnect and contradiction.
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Комментарии • 49

  • @Veyrongaming937
    @Veyrongaming937 6 месяцев назад +4

    Thanks for making this video make more vids on nabi asli
    ❤❤

  • @kazooindo
    @kazooindo 4 месяца назад +4

    May Allah bless you... I see no better channel to oppose insults to Islam than you...
    by using a rational and ethical approach... you are an example of a Muslim that is rare in this day and age
    I've seen a lot of channels like yours, but they seem to denigrate the religions they criticize
    Salaam from 🇮🇩

  • @tameemansari707
    @tameemansari707 7 месяцев назад +2

    False information spread by nasara, logical, chronological clarification. Hats off.

  • @channelone3773G
    @channelone3773G 3 месяца назад +3

    Mubahala precisely hit the Christianity by the destruction of Byzantinian Eastern orthodox Christianity and Empire....

  • @MrAnnl25
    @MrAnnl25 3 месяца назад +1

    Why did the prophet ask the Christians to convert or pay taxes? Why couldn't they stay Christian and not pay taxes like the other muslims?

    • @ponderingislam
      @ponderingislam  3 месяца назад +2

      The non-Muslims would not have to join the military and would get protection if taxes were paid on Muslim land.

    • @kof867
      @kof867 3 дня назад

      @@ponderingislamthat cannot be the right way to live

  • @ecw787
    @ecw787 Год назад +1

    Well here's the thing. The outcome of this challenge was meant to be instantaneous. What I am essentially saying is , God would punish the liar on the spot. I read about this a bit and from some narrations the Prophet (SAW) stood outside with his family and gave them shelter under his cloak. So just refutes their whole argument. If memory serves me right, some of the chief Christians also converted to Islam not long after. So...😂

    • @ponderingislam
      @ponderingislam  Год назад +1

      There is a difference of opinion on the timeline of the curse but the whole point is that the challenge was never accepted, hence it was a moot point to use it as an argument by the author in the video.

    • @HeLpLOstGOdAny1
      @HeLpLOstGOdAny1 11 месяцев назад

      Forget Christians walking away, they got out of the curse by not tempting the Creator.
      The power of life and death should be with the Creator only, and any taking the life of others will have to answer to the one who created life.
      The Creator will NEVER forget though, how could the ultimate omnipotent being forget?
      The Creator looks at the heart, at the true issue. The Creator knows our birth, our exact moment of death before it happens.
      The Creator took away Muhammad, and shortly after civil war arose.
      His family there in support of cursing died later, painful death, by sword of islame division also.
      The centuries of civil wars echo, so many jihad attacks also.
      If you plant a Hazel nut you can get a Hazel tree, but not an Apple tree, or if you plant a Olive seed then an Olive tree, not a Lemon tree.
      Islam planted centuries and centuries of troubled civil wars, many muhammaans infighting even without the wars, when they still attack in jihad,
      a bomb at packed funeral, or at the mosque at peak prayer time, knife attack or shootings.
      The numbers of muhammadans dead fighting other muhammadans are astronomical.
      To many non-muslim it looks like a cult of death worship, it behaves like a cult of death worship, it produces
      the results of a cult of death worship, how then can it be a lemon tree?
      The statements above are posed as rhetroical and not intended for debate but for the reader to contemplate.
      The relationship is between the individual and the Creator. Islam is a faithless system (less than 15% religious) the rest (85%) concerned with totalitarian control over every tiny detail of life, that is a cursing from man, not from the Creator who bestowed freewill.
      To have relationship with the Creator is to trust, each individual must reconcile that with the path laid out before them and in communion with the One who made them. .

    • @xuaalbito8303
      @xuaalbito8303 10 месяцев назад

      @@ponderingislamit never happened because Christian’s refused to take part when they saw prophets family they did not disagree on the presentation of idea infact they all were gathered at the planned location but as they saw the opponents they changed their minds. Now we are not sure why they changed their minds but it does imply some thing which is that they knew also they were wrong because at that time most Christianity also believe Jesus was not son of god as found in an old bible dating back 1500 years. The way Christianity spread varied throughout the world hence why we have so many different testaments.

    • @FellaHAILIRA
      @FellaHAILIRA 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@ponderingislam Christians didn't accept it because Jesus forbids to curse anyone but still yet Muhammad invoked the curse of Allah. Again it is written in Islam scripture that the death will be within a year's time not "on the spot". Regardless it could also happen on the spot if Allah wanted.

    • @ponderingislam
      @ponderingislam  10 месяцев назад +2

      @@FellaHAILIRA Hello, the challenge was not accepted hence this 'curse' competition never took place - neither party cursed.
      Yet, the author is erroneously claiming that the curse caused the demise (which itself has different views but that's a whole different topic). He is trying to take credit for a challenge that never happened.

  • @ultrasignificantfootnote3378
    @ultrasignificantfootnote3378 Год назад

    If God decides when any human individual dies, what difference does it make if we die by a curse ? And how can humans even invoke a curse if God is the cause of everything ? I know it is beside the point of the video , but these questions seem relevant to me.

    • @ponderingislam
      @ponderingislam  Год назад +1

      The point here is that a promise was made that someone will die within a year to authenticate the religion. Even though the challenge was not accepted. It's like making a prediction of something will happen within a year to prove I know the unseen.
      God is the cause of everything, but God also is merciful and will punish. He can shorten or lengthen your life based on your actions. For example, if a person prays for better health than God can accept that prayer and lengthen your life. If you are being evil than God may shorten your life.

    • @FellaHAILIRA
      @FellaHAILIRA 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@ponderingislambro Mubahala's death in the first year was the one who invoked the curse not the witnesses. Read Hadith. There is no mention of the year or time of death for the witnesses in the quaran or hadith. They will receive certain death but the year of the death for the witnesses weren't mentioned. It happened as it was said by quaran and hadith and the prophet died because he was a false prophet and Allah curse was on Muhammad.

    • @edwinmalachy
      @edwinmalachy 9 месяцев назад

      Do you remember JEZEBEL? She was CURSED by the prophet of God and was "eaten by dogs" , exactly as in the curse

    • @ultrasignificantfootnote3378
      @ultrasignificantfootnote3378 9 месяцев назад

      @@edwinmalachy I know the story , but it is not supernatural.

  • @abbas9234
    @abbas9234 Год назад +1

    Would you please tell us whose curse has led to sexually abusing boys by the christian churches' leaders, from priests to cardinals?

    • @ponderingislam
      @ponderingislam  Год назад +4

      We shouldn't judge a religion based on some bad actors. Every religion has some bad followers who do bad deeds. Otherwise, Islam will be judged the same because of some bad Muslims.

    • @FellaHAILIRA
      @FellaHAILIRA 10 месяцев назад +2

      What is causes the curse of wrapping oneself in bombs and shedding bloods of unarmed and innocent, men, women and children indiscriminately.

    • @ponderingislam
      @ponderingislam  10 месяцев назад +1

      @@FellaHAILIRA That's a loaded question, can you be more specific? Because every situation/event has to be analyzed rather than painting it with one brush stroke.
      Before you answer, also ask yourself why some people are doing it. Maybe they are evil, maybe they are forced, maybe justified, etc.

    • @FellaHAILIRA
      @FellaHAILIRA 10 месяцев назад

      @@ponderingislam oh it wasn't for you. It was for the guy who originally commented @abbas9234. If it was for you I would have tagged you. I did tag you in some of the comments though just not this one. 😉
      For @abbas9234 we can also go with the age of Ayesha when Muhammad took her inside his tent to show the power of Allah in the middle of the night.

    • @edwinmalachy
      @edwinmalachy 9 месяцев назад

      in smaller numbers than in muslim society and in society in general..

  • @MohammedIbrahim-eo5so
    @MohammedIbrahim-eo5so Год назад +4

    Propaganda and lies only hurts Poulinity means Trinity. Jesus was a Muslim not a Pauluan or a Triniterian.

    • @DIChannelz
      @DIChannelz Год назад +10

      Jesus wasn’t muslim

    • @MohammedIbrahim-eo5so
      @MohammedIbrahim-eo5so Год назад +2

      @@DIChannelz Jesus was not Triniterian so he was the Muslim only. Do research in oldest Hebrew or Aramaic bible or torah you will find the word.

    • @HeLpLOstGOdAny1
      @HeLpLOstGOdAny1 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@MohammedIbrahim-eo5so Forget Christians walking away, they got out of the curse by not tempting the Creator.
      The power of life and death should be with the Creator only, and any taking the life of others will have to answer to the one who created life.
      The Creator will NEVER forget though, how could the ultimate omnipotent being forget?
      The Creator looks at the heart, at the true issue. The Creator knows our birth, our exact moment of death before it happens.
      The Creator took away Muhammad, and shortly after civil war arose.
      His family there in support of cursing died later, painful death, by sword of islame division also.
      The centuries of civil wars echo, so many jihad attacks also.
      If you plant a Hazel nut you can get a Hazel tree, but not an Apple tree, or if you plant a Olive seed then an Olive tree, not a Lemon tree.
      Islam planted centuries and centuries of troubled civil wars, many muhammaans infighting even without the wars, when they still attack in jihad,
      a bomb at packed funeral, or at the mosque at peak prayer time, knife attack or shootings.
      The numbers of muhammadans dead fighting other muhammadans are astronomical.
      To many non-muslim it looks like a cult of death worship, it behaves like a cult of death worship, it produces
      the results of a cult of death worship, how then can it be a lemon tree?
      The statements above are posed as rhetroical and not intended for debate but for the reader to contemplate.
      The relationship is between the individual and the Creator. Islam is a faithless system (less than 15% religious) the rest (85%) concerned with totalitarian control over every tiny detail of life, that is a cursing from man, not from the Creator who bestowed freewill.
      To have relationship with the Creator is to trust, each individual must reconcile that with the path laid out before them and in communion with the One who made them. .

    • @FellaHAILIRA
      @FellaHAILIRA 10 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@MohammedIbrahim-eo5so give me the verse(s) which says, "I, Jesus the Son of God am a muslim." Islam came long after Jesus. Neither the God of Abraham, God of Issac, God of Jacob and the God of Israel talked about muslim or Islam or a prophet of Muhammad's teachings. Although, what we find is the God of Israel repeatedly shielded Israel from her enemies and Palestinians. Israel immediate surrounding and regions/nations were a hot bed of false religion, paganism and devil worshipping. God promised to destroy them. God did talk about destroying the neighbours of Israel. They were descendants of cain. The brother who killed abel. Today's Israel neighbouring regions are the Arab and sometimes called the middle East in contemporary history. 😊

    • @FellaHAILIRA
      @FellaHAILIRA 10 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@MohammedIbrahim-eo5soTrinity is a theological term not a biblical term. There isn't a word of Trinity or rapture in the old testament or the new testament. I think Muslims who haven't read the Bible are confused with theological terminologies. Too bad what lack of education can do to a person.