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Actually, the first english dub of 'Gatchaman' was 'Battle Of The Planets' from 1978 by Sandy Frank for US syndication. Then, Ted Turner, and Fred Ladd created another english dub called 'G-Force', which would air briefly on WTBS in 1986, but Cartoon Network would air the full series in the mid 90's.
Exactly! And the Eagle Riders show was a combination of the second and third Gatchaman anime shows Gatchaman II and Gatchaman F(AKA Gatchaman Fighter).
@@kevinputry5655 That is true, and while it was cancelled, it was possibly for the best, as the final episodes would not be able to to be edited to be kid-friendly as all three Gatchaman series were known to get real dark near the end.
This! I was about to point it out too, but I'm glad scrolled the comments. I remember catching G-Force as a kid on some random cable channel before, then later again watching the series on Cartoon Network. Interestingly, my mother's ex-boyfriend was shocked to see it, since he grew up knowing it as 'Battle of the Planets'.
My dear Ray Mona YOU ARE AMAZING!! As a HUGE FAN of Gatchaman/Battle of the Planets/G-Force this is unmade American adaptation is something really unexpected! Congratulations for the amazing content on your channel!!!
I loved that show. In Latin America the first I remember was a version called "G-Force Guardians of Space", which was a lighter edition of the original Gatchaman. It always mistified me why a few years later they changed the name to "Eagle Riders". Now I know why. Ray Mona, keep being awesome! You're bringing back a lot of cherished memories.
When l was a kid. It was called Battle of the Planets back in the late 1970's English dubbed. I have seen the original uncut Catchaman, which has more violence in it.
When I was a kid, it was G-force. But I was confused at first cause battle of the planets was a name I was aware of and I knew it was somehow related to G force. To add to the confuse, there's an unrelated show about planets literally fighting.
To me, the most interesting unmade American Gatchaman project was a feature length animated movie that was to be written by Paul Dini and made by defunct studio Imagi. They only ever managed to get TMNT 07 and Astroboy off the ground. The fact the former was close to, but never got a sequel and the latter was a troubled production that took years and the bankruptcy of the studio to get released. I don't know if the teaser still exists online, but I was devastated it never happened at the time. That said, this one... if I didn't know it was supposed to be Gatchaman, it sounds solid. But since it is, I take issue with the villains being slimy little monsters instead of Gatchaman's standard villain. That would have worked far better in live action and have been cheaper just to have mild costuming.
There was also a cancelled Gatchaman anime from the late 90s. While the Gatchaman and Casshern OVAs did relatively well Tatsunoko made a Mach GoGoGo/Speed Racer show around '97 which was a failure, perhaps in part due to Speed Racer not being that popular in Japan despite the huge impact it had outside of its country of origin, but the failure of Speed Racer '97 killed the chances of a modern Gatchaman version and the only thing that survived from that project is some concept art made by an Italian artist who works in Japan, Roberto Ferrari, who later joined Square-Enix and re-designed the characters for the Final Fantasy VII Remake There was a new Gatchaman anime back in 2013 called Gatchaman Crowds, but it had very little to do with the original anime, aside from the fact that Ken the Eagle´s original VA, Katsuji Mori, had a role in it
They just had to "powerangerize" Chōjin Sentai Jetman the super sentai season who aired juste before Zyuranger. Jetman was written as an homage to Gatchaman.
That’s what I find hilarious about this pitch. It’s basically Power Rangers once it becomes live action, and that’s probably what killed it in the end. What’s the point of doing something so immensely similar to what’s cheaply already been done? Makes me wonder if this was possibly going to be done instead of Turbo or even In Space before scrapping it altogether. As a way to make something that doesn’t rely on Toei but is similar enough to draw in viewers who liked Power Rangers.
I remember hearing ages ago of rumors of some of these American anime adaptations, though I never thought I'd actually see anything ever surface. This is something really special. Thanks
A lost live action Gatchaman Project in America? After all the previous episodes of The Vault of what you've found and showcased I'm not surprised. This would have been interesting to see more of out of curiosity. Now, if there's a lost Doraemon live action show, that'll be wild. Thanks, for continuously finding all this lost anime history, Ray Mona. Great episode 4 of The Vault.
Ray Mona knocking it out of the park again with yet another amazing piece of #LostMedia being found & documented to be able to learn about from the original documents of it. Super intrigued to see what you end up documenting next from this massive treasure trove you have found in The Library of Congress Archives.
Well. This is astonishing. Terrible but interesting. I think you could almost shoehorn this onto Jetman footage. Almost. It’s a shame the concept art and protos pics are missing. I wonder if they got misfiled, or there was a second pass on this concept under a completely different name that has that stuff. But of course the constant dilemma, how do you even start a search if you have no clue of a name, a timeframe or even possibly a different production company? But keep on digging! I’d like to know where Toei hid that English language pilot/promo Queen of a Thousand Years. Did they only do the first episode or did they jam two eps together like the Ziv Captain Harlock tape? The world may never know.
And Battle of the Planets was BIG in its day, and it influenced a LOT of Gen-X animators. Genndy Tartakovsky and Craig McCracken especially. There's even a Simpsons couch gag where Marge was dressed as Jun. Not to mention a late 90's or early 00's Top Cow comic book series.
Gatchman came out before Star Wars in 1972, BOTP came out in 1978. Mark (Eagle), Jason (Condor), Princess (Swan), Tiny (Owl) & Keyop (Swallow) along with Chief Anderson, 7-Zark-7 & 1-Rover-1. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Planets
Battle of the Planets was the original English adaptation. It added footage unique to the dub (featuring an all-new character called 7-Zark-7) to make up for edits that caused the runtime to slip below industry TV standards. In the '80s, the same production company did G-Force, which was a second attempt using the same footage, but intended to be "more faithful" while still edited. They tried again to re-dub the show in the '00s for kids, but that didn't materialize. Instead, ADV produced their own completely uncut version of the original series in 2005. Eagle Riders is a combined dub of the sequel series Gatchaman II and Fighter. That is the only English-dubbed version of those shows to exist. ADV's successor company acquired the rights to both, but released them sub-only.
@@IMissBionix Battle of the Planets also had an all star voice cast including Casey Kasem and Alan Young. Something rare in an anime dub. Personally, I saw Gatchaman first and I just am no fan of the Battle dub. Not even said voice cast can save it, and they made some dumb choices. Keyop has Tourettes Syndrome and makes weird noises when he talks. Like Klunk from Dastardly and Muttley. Nowadays, if you so much as give a character an accent in a dub, the fanbase will never EVER let you live it down.
I know that show as G-Force it use to show when I was in Primary School . Glactor the bad guy always use to get away an they could never unmask him lol they eventially did in the finial episode I think
Well, the final episode they would allow, as the true final episode of Gatchaman was too dark to dub for G-Force and Battle of the Planets (and sadly, because of that, anyone who saw Eagle Riders before having the internet would be confused about the events, as it has Joe the Condor's adaptation, Joseph Trax, as missing in action).
Really interesting, it's very very different of what I imagined when I saw in the title of video. It strayed so much from the original anime and this treatment reminds me more of Thundercats and Power Rangers than Gatchaman.
When we saw the proposed American Gundam show, it more or less kept to the themes of it's original show but with a stronger eco vibe. The Live Action Gatchaman project by contrast took a simple idea (a team of orphans trained to fight an earthly secret society) and added so many unnecessary extra steps that make the OG battle of the planets look so much more faithful.
This pitch did not sound very good and frankly, was financially bizarre to do in the first place. Gatchaman wasn't going through a huge renaissance in Japan during the '90s. The only thing out during that time was a direct-to-video series reimagined for older audiences (which had gotten a release in the U.S. by the time this pitch was made). What was provoking a reimagining of it? All of the toys and the show itself would have to be made for the U.S. market. It's easy to think the show would've been destined for obscurity like all of the non-Power Rangers tokusatsu series. Mystic Knights of Tir Na Nog wasn't unpopular, but even that was shortlived because the costs associated made it financially unjustifiable.
There was a second attempt at a Gatchaman anime in the 90s, but it was cancelled after the failure of Tatsunoko's revival of Mach GoGoGo/Speed Racer in 1997
I was also confused as to why they would want to pay to license an existing property, change everything about it, and not reuse any existing footage. Did they just look at some toys existing Gatchaman toys and write a show around them or something?
@@KasumiKenshirou making a show based on preexisting toys has been a thing in the past, Transformers was based on various Japanese toylines (Diaclone, Microman, Microchange) that didn't have a lot of story, and there was an 80s cartoon called Mighty Orbots which had a giant robot from the anime Six God Combination GodMars, but the cartoon had completely new footage and animation, they only took the design of Godmars
Gatchaman was so good, and very ahead of it's time, and at times very dark, definitely not for little kids - this is why it had to be so severely edited. I'm so lucky growing up in Europe I got 1970's, and 1980's anime unedited in the 90's
This sounds like it could also be used as a treatment for Jetman, the sentai before the one they used for power rangers. But i wonder if this pitch was retooled for the live aciton ninja turles series from saban.
Unlikely, since most of these were of Toei franchises, which Pokemon was never a Toei property. Though asides from Detective Pikachu, there WAS word of Netflix making a live-action Pokemon series a few years back, but no news of it has come since then. Of course, given Netflix's track record with adaptations of Japanese properties, I doubt it would have been good.
I'd imagine that that either they didn't realize it was going to be popular, they tried and were outbid by 4Kids, the license cost more money than they were willing to spend (they got those Tatsunoko show dirt cheap), or that Nintendo/Game Freak refused to work with Saban. While I'd never be the type to say Digimon is a ripoff of Pokemon, I feel that Saban kind of had some issue that lead to them dubbing it as a competitor.
I don't think such a things exists, but according to some Pokémon's developers, when they first showed the games to Nintendo of America's staff they told them that they weren't so sure if U.S. childred would have find the Pokémon's designs appealing and NOA suggested that Pokémon Red/Blue graphics should be completely remade and change the Pokémon into more humanoid and muscular creatures. I think one of Game Freak's developers said that Pikachu's redesing looked like a sort of humanoid female for some reason. Obviously, remaking the game's entire graphics would have been incredible difficult and I assume in the end they realized that the game and anime's designs had marketing potential outside of Japan, but it's kind of incredible that back then people thought that Pokémon wouldn't appeal to children in the U.S.
@@mightyfilm The first time most Americans heard of Pokemon was when they heard the cartoon was giving kids seizures in Japan. So there might have been some potential licensees scared off by that.
Man, that was informative.. if slightly bizarre. LIke, that good and evil dichotomy was so sharp it's almost too ridiculous to buy into. Making the Science NInja's actual bird-people (and the girl a colorful peacock... well, quite progressive for it's time I suppose), making the enemies slime-people, and turning it all into a Power Rangers pastiche feels like it could have POSSIBLY found an audience, but it sounds so different from what the OG is about that I'm not sure the fans of this porperty would become fans of the original, and I wonder if the original IP-holders, if they ever seriously discussed this show, doubted that they could use this to grow their I when the two different shows are THIS different. STill, I do wish I could see the pictures, just so I could see what level the bird-people designs were on. Potential furry-bait, or nightmarish abominations against taste and character design? Both are possible, but we will never know...
And thus again it was better off being an anime series not a live action series. Also years ago when the anime was shown here in the states it was known as G-force before it was called Eagle Riders in the 90's.
I know little to nothing about Gatchaman, but from what I do know of it, the series looks like it could make a good tokusatsu series. This concept I can clearly tell has nothing to do with it, even with what little knowledge I have of the source material. It sounds more like a pitch for a Hawkman film but without the Egyptian symbolism or the weird and confusing continuity DC made for it.
Sorry I had to delete my original comment due to backlash. I looked it up there was a g force anime called g force guardians of space. So possibilite a alternate title? if ya disagree idk. don't @ me. I saw the show as a kid in the 1980's. peace. P.s I seriously enjoy this series!😎
Thank goodness this was never made....what a massive butchering of Gatchaman. I despise when peole take established franchises and try to turn them into THEIR own vision which resembles NOT the original. They almost did a Live action Voltron movie which was equally terrible
Its very generic. Its amazing how far removed this is from gatchaman. I wouldn't call it an adaptation. Maybe not even directly inspired by it. Its like when a show inspires the genre its in, and this show just so happens to be from that genre too.
What is with America's weird obsession with Gatchaman? It has been adapted so many times over so many decades, but it's never really worked. Why Gatchaman? I like Gatchaman, but there are better shows from Japan that could have used this much attention. Also, how many university bullies are there?
This also confused me a lot when attempting to research for the video. It had been dubbed numerous times under so many different names, it was very hard to keep track😅😅
While the anime series are far more varied than the stock 0079 template often deployed by most series, with the only common factor being a version of the Liger. They stopped making them and Hasbro is basically dying. It’d be cool if there were series based off the Marvel comics or something like Iron Blooded Orphans. But there’s been nothing for almost twenty years.
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Actually, the first english dub of 'Gatchaman' was 'Battle Of The Planets' from 1978 by Sandy Frank for US syndication. Then, Ted Turner, and Fred Ladd created another english dub called 'G-Force', which would air briefly on WTBS in 1986, but Cartoon Network would air the full series in the mid 90's.
Exactly! And the Eagle Riders show was a combination of the second and third Gatchaman anime shows Gatchaman II and Gatchaman F(AKA Gatchaman Fighter).
@@kevinputry5655 That is true, and while it was cancelled, it was possibly for the best, as the final episodes would not be able to to be edited to be kid-friendly as all three Gatchaman series were known to get real dark near the end.
Exactly! I don’t know about that other history but it’s nice to know that it continues even with the name changes
This! I was about to point it out too, but I'm glad scrolled the comments. I remember catching G-Force as a kid on some random cable channel before, then later again watching the series on Cartoon Network. Interestingly, my mother's ex-boyfriend was shocked to see it, since he grew up knowing it as 'Battle of the Planets'.
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My dear Ray Mona YOU ARE AMAZING!! As a HUGE FAN of Gatchaman/Battle of the Planets/G-Force this is unmade American adaptation is something really unexpected! Congratulations for the amazing content on your channel!!!
I loved that show. In Latin America the first I remember was a version called "G-Force Guardians of Space", which was a lighter edition of the original Gatchaman. It always mistified me why a few years later they changed the name to "Eagle Riders". Now I know why.
Ray Mona, keep being awesome! You're bringing back a lot of cherished memories.
When l was a kid. It was called Battle of the Planets back in the late 1970's English dubbed. I have seen the original uncut Catchaman, which has more violence in it.
When I was a kid, it was G-force. But I was confused at first cause battle of the planets was a name I was aware of and I knew it was somehow related to G force.
To add to the confuse, there's an unrelated show about planets literally fighting.
To me, the most interesting unmade American Gatchaman project was a feature length animated movie that was to be written by Paul Dini and made by defunct studio Imagi. They only ever managed to get TMNT 07 and Astroboy off the ground. The fact the former was close to, but never got a sequel and the latter was a troubled production that took years and the bankruptcy of the studio to get released. I don't know if the teaser still exists online, but I was devastated it never happened at the time. That said, this one... if I didn't know it was supposed to be Gatchaman, it sounds solid. But since it is, I take issue with the villains being slimy little monsters instead of Gatchaman's standard villain. That would have worked far better in live action and have been cheaper just to have mild costuming.
There was also a cancelled Gatchaman anime from the late 90s. While the Gatchaman and Casshern OVAs did relatively well Tatsunoko made a Mach GoGoGo/Speed Racer show around '97 which was a failure, perhaps in part due to Speed Racer not being that popular in Japan despite the huge impact it had outside of its country of origin, but the failure of Speed Racer '97 killed the chances of a modern Gatchaman version and the only thing that survived from that project is some concept art made by an Italian artist who works in Japan, Roberto Ferrari, who later joined Square-Enix and re-designed the characters for the Final Fantasy VII Remake
There was a new Gatchaman anime back in 2013 called Gatchaman Crowds, but it had very little to do with the original anime, aside from the fact that Ken the Eagle´s original VA, Katsuji Mori, had a role in it
"Scurrilous scourges". I need to use that phrase more often. 😂
They just had to "powerangerize" Chōjin Sentai Jetman the super sentai season who aired juste before Zyuranger. Jetman was written as an homage to Gatchaman.
That’s what I find hilarious about this pitch. It’s basically Power Rangers once it becomes live action, and that’s probably what killed it in the end. What’s the point of doing something so immensely similar to what’s cheaply already been done?
Makes me wonder if this was possibly going to be done instead of Turbo or even In Space before scrapping it altogether. As a way to make something that doesn’t rely on Toei but is similar enough to draw in viewers who liked Power Rangers.
I remember hearing ages ago of rumors of some of these American anime adaptations, though I never thought I'd actually see anything ever surface. This is something really special. Thanks
A lost live action Gatchaman Project in America? After all the previous episodes of The Vault of what you've found and showcased I'm not surprised. This would have been interesting to see more of out of curiosity.
Now, if there's a lost Doraemon live action show, that'll be wild.
Thanks, for continuously finding all this lost anime history, Ray Mona.
Great episode 4 of The Vault.
How are you so good at finding these??? You're IMPRESSIVE!!!
Raymona got extremely lucky when she was able to get access of Frank Ward's stuff from the Library of Congress.
Ray Mona knocking it out of the park again with yet another amazing piece of #LostMedia being found & documented to be able to learn about from the original documents of it. Super intrigued to see what you end up documenting next from this massive treasure trove you have found in The Library of Congress Archives.
Well. This is astonishing. Terrible but interesting. I think you could almost shoehorn this onto Jetman footage. Almost.
It’s a shame the concept art and protos pics are missing. I wonder if they got misfiled, or there was a second pass on this concept under a completely different name that has that stuff. But of course the constant dilemma, how do you even start a search if you have no clue of a name, a timeframe or even possibly a different production company?
But keep on digging! I’d like to know where Toei hid that English language pilot/promo Queen of a Thousand Years. Did they only do the first episode or did they jam two eps together like the Ziv Captain Harlock tape?
The world may never know.
The first official English adaptation of Gatchaman was Battle of the Planets right? Did they make other dubbing attempts?
Two others: G-force in 1986 and Eagle Riders in 1996.
And Battle of the Planets was BIG in its day, and it influenced a LOT of Gen-X animators. Genndy Tartakovsky and Craig McCracken especially. There's even a Simpsons couch gag where Marge was dressed as Jun. Not to mention a late 90's or early 00's Top Cow comic book series.
Gatchman came out before Star Wars in 1972, BOTP came out in 1978.
Mark (Eagle), Jason (Condor), Princess (Swan), Tiny (Owl) & Keyop (Swallow) along with Chief Anderson, 7-Zark-7 & 1-Rover-1. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Planets
Battle of the Planets was the original English adaptation. It added footage unique to the dub (featuring an all-new character called 7-Zark-7) to make up for edits that caused the runtime to slip below industry TV standards. In the '80s, the same production company did G-Force, which was a second attempt using the same footage, but intended to be "more faithful" while still edited. They tried again to re-dub the show in the '00s for kids, but that didn't materialize. Instead, ADV produced their own completely uncut version of the original series in 2005.
Eagle Riders is a combined dub of the sequel series Gatchaman II and Fighter. That is the only English-dubbed version of those shows to exist. ADV's successor company acquired the rights to both, but released them sub-only.
@@IMissBionix Battle of the Planets also had an all star voice cast including Casey Kasem and Alan Young. Something rare in an anime dub. Personally, I saw Gatchaman first and I just am no fan of the Battle dub. Not even said voice cast can save it, and they made some dumb choices. Keyop has Tourettes Syndrome and makes weird noises when he talks. Like Klunk from Dastardly and Muttley. Nowadays, if you so much as give a character an accent in a dub, the fanbase will never EVER let you live it down.
I know that show as G-Force it use to show when I was in Primary School . Glactor the bad guy always use to get away an they could never unmask him lol they eventially did in the finial episode I think
Well, the final episode they would allow, as the true final episode of Gatchaman was too dark to dub for G-Force and Battle of the Planets (and sadly, because of that, anyone who saw Eagle Riders before having the internet would be confused about the events, as it has Joe the Condor's adaptation, Joseph Trax, as missing in action).
This sounds like a pretty cool concept, I think it definitely would've worked better as animation though.
I have to agree, especially if the heroes' true forms are going to be eagle men.
Wow! I only have found memories of Battle of the Planets. Thanks for that insight.. Great video.
Really interesting, it's very very different of what I imagined when I saw in the title of video. It strayed so much from the original anime and this treatment reminds me more of Thundercats and Power Rangers than Gatchaman.
It was changed so much, why did they even bother "adapting" this instead of making their own show from scratch?
When we saw the proposed American Gundam show, it more or less kept to the themes of it's original show but with a stronger eco vibe. The Live Action Gatchaman project by contrast took a simple idea (a team of orphans trained to fight an earthly secret society) and added so many unnecessary extra steps that make the OG battle of the planets look so much more faithful.
G-FORCE BAYBEE!!!
The Septic Swamp Slime? Dang, harsh.
You said it was released in America under eagle riders? I’ve only ever seen it called GeForce or battle of the planets
We almost got a live action Gatchaman!?! Dang! That would have been awesome!
I've always known this as G Force in the late 70's and early 80's
nice documentary, never dissapoints 💯
i watched this in the 70s as battle of the planets
I remember first watching G Force in Spanish Saturday mornings in Puerto Rico. ❤
5:02 This is reaching levels of dualism by name that shouldn't be physically possible, lol.
Even the LANDSCAPE is dualist, wtf.
I remember it being called G-Force on cartoon Network
This pitch did not sound very good and frankly, was financially bizarre to do in the first place. Gatchaman wasn't going through a huge renaissance in Japan during the '90s. The only thing out during that time was a direct-to-video series reimagined for older audiences (which had gotten a release in the U.S. by the time this pitch was made). What was provoking a reimagining of it? All of the toys and the show itself would have to be made for the U.S. market. It's easy to think the show would've been destined for obscurity like all of the non-Power Rangers tokusatsu series. Mystic Knights of Tir Na Nog wasn't unpopular, but even that was shortlived because the costs associated made it financially unjustifiable.
There was a second attempt at a Gatchaman anime in the 90s, but it was cancelled after the failure of Tatsunoko's revival of Mach GoGoGo/Speed Racer in 1997
I was also confused as to why they would want to pay to license an existing property, change everything about it, and not reuse any existing footage. Did they just look at some toys existing Gatchaman toys and write a show around them or something?
@@KasumiKenshirou making a show based on preexisting toys has been a thing in the past, Transformers was based on various Japanese toylines (Diaclone, Microman, Microchange) that didn't have a lot of story, and there was an 80s cartoon called Mighty Orbots which had a giant robot from the anime Six God Combination GodMars, but the cartoon had completely new footage and animation, they only took the design of Godmars
@@pablocasas5906 maybe that’s why orbots spun off from GodMars and its manga source to become its own story.
Yeah, this sounds real rough.
Gatchaman was so good, and very ahead of it's time, and at times very dark, definitely not for little kids - this is why it had to be so severely edited. I'm so lucky growing up in Europe I got 1970's, and 1980's anime unedited in the 90's
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After your saint seiya video i was convinced nothing else could shock me. But gatchaman? I swore i was the only person who had even watched this!
I knew I recognized Tariqs voice. Ive been trying to fall back in love with Tokusatsu and this docu popped up.
I remember watching Battle of the Planets which was based on the OG show. Many things were not included like the bad guy being a gal.
Love the CGI used for the Phoenix on the live action Gatchaman movie in 2013.
Don't make Netflix make a Collaboration with Tatsunoko Production.
In Mexico they were called "Fuerza G", loved them. I got a tattoo of Ken the Eagle.
It would have been great to see the final outcome of this project. Thank you for the video!
Thanks for watching!😊🙏
This is gonna be good!
Gatchaman is my all time favorite!!!!! Ahhhhhhh!!!!!
This sounds like it could also be used as a treatment for Jetman, the sentai before the one they used for power rangers. But i wonder if this pitch was retooled for the live aciton ninja turles series from saban.
I'm still thinking about "more chins than a chinese phone book"
Jesus Christ whenever I think the Tatsunoko live action adaptation ends another one shows up.
Sis, you are doing the work!!
Gatchaman makes me think of the Vinsmoke Siblings from One Piece
What’s next, a saban dub of Pokemon!?
Unlikely, since most of these were of Toei franchises, which Pokemon was never a Toei property. Though asides from Detective Pikachu, there WAS word of Netflix making a live-action Pokemon series a few years back, but no news of it has come since then. Of course, given Netflix's track record with adaptations of Japanese properties, I doubt it would have been good.
@@Masterge77 true it’s just that I hope I’m joking
I'd imagine that that either they didn't realize it was going to be popular, they tried and were outbid by 4Kids, the license cost more money than they were willing to spend (they got those Tatsunoko show dirt cheap), or that Nintendo/Game Freak refused to work with Saban. While I'd never be the type to say Digimon is a ripoff of Pokemon, I feel that Saban kind of had some issue that lead to them dubbing it as a competitor.
I don't think such a things exists, but according to some Pokémon's developers, when they first showed the games to Nintendo of America's staff they told them that they weren't so sure if U.S. childred would have find the Pokémon's designs appealing and NOA suggested that Pokémon Red/Blue graphics should be completely remade and change the Pokémon into more humanoid and muscular creatures. I think one of Game Freak's developers said that Pikachu's redesing looked like a sort of humanoid female for some reason. Obviously, remaking the game's entire graphics would have been incredible difficult and I assume in the end they realized that the game and anime's designs had marketing potential outside of Japan, but it's kind of incredible that back then people thought that Pokémon wouldn't appeal to children in the U.S.
@@mightyfilm The first time most Americans heard of Pokemon was when they heard the cartoon was giving kids seizures in Japan. So there might have been some potential licensees scared off by that.
I remember a version of this anime in the 90s called G-Force....
Interesting video! Thank you!
A live action Gatchaman movie came out like in 2013...it's on RUclips right now
i remembered this as g force and then global force
It's been done - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C5%8Djin_Sentai_Jetman there's also a school of thought that Gatchaman 'inspired' Super Sentai
Great video...👍
I never heard of Gotchaman until I watched Jetman which I was exposed to through Power Rangers.
I see why this was in the vault and it can stay in there forever. Watching this being recycled for a third time, it needs to be left alone.
Never could get into Gundam. Robotech I loved, so you would think switching to Gundam would be obvious.
Netflix maybe should pick up this project
Man, that was informative.. if slightly bizarre. LIke, that good and evil dichotomy was so sharp it's almost too ridiculous to buy into. Making the Science NInja's actual bird-people (and the girl a colorful peacock... well, quite progressive for it's time I suppose), making the enemies slime-people, and turning it all into a Power Rangers pastiche feels like it could have POSSIBLY found an audience, but it sounds so different from what the OG is about that I'm not sure the fans of this porperty would become fans of the original, and I wonder if the original IP-holders, if they ever seriously discussed this show, doubted that they could use this to grow their I when the two different shows are THIS different.
STill, I do wish I could see the pictures, just so I could see what level the bird-people designs were on. Potential furry-bait, or nightmarish abominations against taste and character design? Both are possible, but we will never know...
Glad I watched some episodes of Gatchaman, otherwise, I’d be a little confused because nobody in the US really talks about it
I loved Battle of the Planets (the first US adaptation) as a kid in the 80s. But it doesn't hold up as well as Robotech, Voltron or Star Blazers
I'd say it was influenced by Thunderbirds more than Star Trek.
ANOTHER GEM 🗣
Interesting video. Any leads in trying to find the early "The Gutman" dub?
And thus again it was better off being an anime series not a live action series. Also years ago when the anime was shown here in the states it was known as G-force before it was called Eagle Riders in the 90's.
When did I watch the version called G-Force?
I'll be a monkey's uncle. Makes me wonder if Renesiance Atlantic had any plans for a Tekkaman adaptation.
Then in the 80s it was called G-force
I read somewhere the Russo’s were developing another live action film.
I know little to nothing about Gatchaman, but from what I do know of it, the series looks like it could make a good tokusatsu series. This concept I can clearly tell has nothing to do with it, even with what little knowledge I have of the source material. It sounds more like a pitch for a Hawkman film but without the Egyptian symbolism or the weird and confusing continuity DC made for it.
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Sorry I had to delete my original comment due to backlash. I looked it up there was a g force anime called g force guardians of space. So possibilite a alternate title? if ya disagree idk. don't @ me. I saw the show as a kid in the 1980's. peace. P.s I seriously enjoy this series!😎
gatchaman battle of the planets gforce ealge riders
Too many names
Septic Swamp Slime?
While the idea of a live action Gatchaman sounds cool, it's not surprising this adaptation got a pass
Wow
Shonen or Seinen? Not sure what it is
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Anybody else read racial undertones between the mountain people and the swamp people?
Thank goodness this was never made....what a massive butchering of Gatchaman. I despise when peole take established franchises and try to turn them into THEIR own vision which resembles NOT the original. They almost did a Live action Voltron movie which was equally terrible
Heck even the Netflix reboot doesn’t stray too far from the original Voltron and its own GoLion source, which is darker and edgier.
@@SlapstickGenius23 Ohhhh Netflix DEFINITELY strayed....their Version of Gay Woketron ruined everything.
Its very generic. Its amazing how far removed this is from gatchaman. I wouldn't call it an adaptation. Maybe not even directly inspired by it.
Its like when a show inspires the genre its in, and this show just so happens to be from that genre too.
What is with America's weird obsession with Gatchaman? It has been adapted so many times over so many decades, but it's never really worked. Why Gatchaman? I like Gatchaman, but there are better shows from Japan that could have used this much attention.
Also, how many university bullies are there?
This also confused me a lot when attempting to research for the video. It had been dubbed numerous times under so many different names, it was very hard to keep track😅😅
Zoids are better than Gundam.
While the anime series are far more varied than the stock 0079 template often deployed by most series, with the only common factor being a version of the Liger. They stopped making them and Hasbro is basically dying.
It’d be cool if there were series based off the Marvel comics or something like Iron Blooded Orphans. But there’s been nothing for almost twenty years.