Thank you so much for all you do. Your videos and wisdom are really a blessing to me. I come from a target archery background and you have literally taught me most of my slingshot skills via these videos. Thank you dear friend.
I was watching a past video that reference your rock pouches, however I do not see them on the site anymore. Why would be a good pouch and band for shooting some river stones casually?
I shot slingshots in the early 1980’s and the tech we have now is much better. I also shot 85-125# plus bows all my life and even though I am old now I find modern slingshots very low in resistance to the point that I must really concentrate to get sensitive to the draw weight. My point is based upon reference and where your personal reference point is based upon. Your muscles and your brain work together to create expectations in aiming and drop. I can pick up any bow or sling shot and instinctively know where I am aiming….just repeat again and again….thousands of times…
Dang it man The season is over and I just now came up with a question That I want to ask that I have a feeling will cause some controversy and have a lot of people arguing with me about how stupid it sounds. Actually it's 2 questions. I suppose anybody with a chronograph could answer the questions definitively but I don't have one. The question is "do metal slingshots shoot at a higher velocity than a wooden or plastic slingshot given the same exact bandset and active band length. I know this sounds dumb and it may seem like it wouldn't make a difference, and maybe it doesn't. However The reason I ask it is because I've noticed when I switch to some of my homemade wooden slingshots it seems to me that even with the same ammo and band setup the wooden slingshots feel like they are shooting a bit slower. Now I'm aware this could just be how I'm perceiving it due to the vibration in the frame feeling different for each material every time I shoot, but it even seems like the balls drop quicker than they do when shooting polymer frames. The only theory I have for why this could possibly happen is maybe due to the wood absorbing some of the energy from the bands retracting during the release and that may be it absorbs more than polymer and polymer might absorbs more than metal...idk this is of course all speculation and everybody will all undoubtedly have their own different opinion on the matter, which is fine. I would very much appreciate hearing your opinion on the matter and give me your own reasons why I could be on to something or if you believe I'm wrong. but please don't tell me I'm wrong for a fact unless you actually do have data to prove it. I.e. chronograph readings using the same bands on similar frames of different material. If you have the plastic and aluminum versions of the axiom or something that would be interesting to test. The 2nd question is "is there a difference in velocity between OTT and TTF using the same bands and active band length?" I personally believe wholeheartedly that OTT shoots at a higher velocity than TTF with my theory being that the bands will not have the same amount of follow through with TTF and will be contacting the forks as the ball is released whereas OTT will have longer travel and the bands will follow through until snapping back naturally without interference....I doubt anyone took time to read this far but if you did I appreciate you and want to hear your thoughts and more importantly I want to hear the facts through data if you have a chrono
For the first question, the answer is it makes no difference. The energy is in the bands and not the slingshot frame. Check to see if the active band length is the same on each. Fork thickness and how the bands are tied on using up more latex can affect the ammo velocity but again, that is the bands and not the frame. For the second question, there should be no difference between TTF and OTT as long as the bands/ammo is the same and the fork gap is the same. If you use the same bands but on two different fork gaps, typically, the wider will shoot faster as it is stretching the bands a slight bit more. It all boils down to the bands though.
@@simpleshot I can't believe you took the time to answer those long questions. I figured nobody would reply because it's so much to read lol. Thank you for answering. I truly never considered fork gap into the equation. Never considered it to effect the shot until now and it seems common sense suddenly.
I couldn’t agree more but I really have to wonder why the bands that you supply with every new slingshot are heavy stiff bands appropriate for 7/16 steel ammo.
This size has the most adaptability/versatility for the common slingshot ammo sizes available. The Standard Flat Bands 7/16"/11mm steel ammo bandset will shoot the smaller 3/8"/9.5mm steel ammo at a higher speed than the 3/8"/9.5mm bandset but you can also expect a shorter bandset lifespan (using the same stretch percentage). It will shoot 7/16"/11mm steel ammo. It can shoot 1/2" steel ammo but will produce a slower speed than the 1/2"/12.5mm bandset does (using the same stretch percentage). On top of those, this bandset will shoot .32-.36 caliber lead balls, and don't forget 12-15mm glass marbles. WOW, talk about a bandset that is hungry to shoot almost any ammo! The Standard Flat Bands 7/16"/11mm is the best all-around choice!
@@simpleshot That maybe true that bandset will do all those things but for new shooter it is heavy and harder to learn with than the lighter bands that you rightfully advocate in your answer. Most new shooters don't recognize that versatility as an asset. To them it is harder to use than a more appropriate band that matches their ammo.
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Thank you so much for all you do. Your videos and wisdom are really a blessing to me. I come from a target archery background and you have literally taught me most of my slingshot skills via these videos. Thank you dear friend.
I was watching a past video that reference your rock pouches, however I do not see them on the site anymore. Why would be a good pouch and band for shooting some river stones casually?
We had these for survival situations but no longer sell them. We do not recommend the use of rocks as the flight can be erratic.
I will be waiting.
I shot slingshots in the early 1980’s and the tech we have now is much better. I also shot 85-125# plus bows all my life and even though I am old now I find modern slingshots very low in resistance to the point that I must really concentrate to get sensitive to the draw weight. My point is based upon reference and where your personal reference point is based upon. Your muscles and your brain work together to create expectations in aiming and drop. I can pick up any bow or sling shot and instinctively know where I am aiming….just repeat again and again….thousands of times…
Dang it man The season is over and I just now came up with a question That I want to ask that I have a feeling will cause some controversy and have a lot of people arguing with me about how stupid it sounds.
Actually it's 2 questions.
I suppose anybody with a chronograph could answer the questions definitively but I don't have one. The question is "do metal slingshots shoot at a higher velocity than a wooden or plastic slingshot given the same exact bandset and active band length. I know this sounds dumb and it may seem like it wouldn't make a difference, and maybe it doesn't. However The reason I ask it is because I've noticed when I switch to some of my homemade wooden slingshots it seems to me that even with the same ammo and band setup the wooden slingshots feel like they are shooting a bit slower. Now I'm aware this could just be how I'm perceiving it due to the vibration in the frame feeling different for each material every time I shoot, but it even seems like the balls drop quicker than they do when shooting polymer frames.
The only theory I have for why this could possibly happen is maybe due to the wood absorbing some of the energy from the bands retracting during the release and that may be it absorbs more than polymer and polymer might absorbs more than metal...idk this is of course all speculation and everybody will all undoubtedly have their own different opinion on the matter, which is fine. I would very much appreciate hearing your opinion on the matter and give me your own reasons why I could be on to something or if you believe I'm wrong. but please don't tell me I'm wrong for a fact unless you actually do have data to prove it. I.e. chronograph readings using the same bands on similar frames of different material. If you have the plastic and aluminum versions of the axiom or something that would be interesting to test.
The 2nd question is "is there a difference in velocity between OTT and TTF using the same bands and active band length?"
I personally believe wholeheartedly that OTT shoots at a higher velocity than TTF with my theory being that the bands will not have the same amount of follow through with TTF and will be contacting the forks as the ball is released whereas OTT will have longer travel and the bands will follow through until snapping back naturally without interference....I doubt anyone took time to read this far but if you did I appreciate you and want to hear your thoughts and more importantly I want to hear the facts through data if you have a chrono
For the first question, the answer is it makes no difference. The energy is in the bands and not the slingshot frame. Check to see if the active band length is the same on each. Fork thickness and how the bands are tied on using up more latex can affect the ammo velocity but again, that is the bands and not the frame.
For the second question, there should be no difference between TTF and OTT as long as the bands/ammo is the same and the fork gap is the same.
If you use the same bands but on two different fork gaps, typically, the wider will shoot faster as it is stretching the bands a slight bit more. It all boils down to the bands though.
@@simpleshot I can't believe you took the time to answer those long questions. I figured nobody would reply because it's so much to read lol. Thank you for answering. I truly never considered fork gap into the equation. Never considered it to effect the shot until now and it seems common sense suddenly.
We are glad to help! Happy shooting!
I couldn’t agree more but I really have to wonder why the bands that you supply with every new slingshot are heavy stiff bands appropriate for 7/16 steel ammo.
This size has the most adaptability/versatility for the common slingshot ammo sizes available.
The Standard Flat Bands 7/16"/11mm steel ammo bandset will shoot the smaller 3/8"/9.5mm steel ammo at a higher speed than the 3/8"/9.5mm bandset but you can also expect a shorter bandset lifespan (using the same stretch percentage).
It will shoot 7/16"/11mm steel ammo.
It can shoot 1/2" steel ammo but will produce a slower speed than the 1/2"/12.5mm bandset does (using the same stretch percentage).
On top of those, this bandset will shoot .32-.36 caliber lead balls, and don't forget 12-15mm glass marbles. WOW, talk about a bandset that is hungry to shoot almost any ammo! The Standard Flat Bands 7/16"/11mm is the best all-around choice!
@@simpleshot That maybe true that bandset will do all those things but for new shooter it is heavy and harder to learn with than the lighter bands that you rightfully advocate in your answer. Most new shooters don't recognize that versatility as an asset. To them it is harder to use than a more appropriate band that matches their ammo.
Let's just say we're working on it. :)