Heat rises cold sinks IS true... Without outside influence. The second you're throwing outside forces, say... From fans... You're GOING to overcome the natural settlement of air molecules. SO, as someone else here has said, you ABSOLUTELY can use bottom exhaust, and if you're GOING to place a PC on or above carpet, I'd actually RECOMMEND this approach, so long as you ensure your fan selection can produce the requisite pressure column(s).
Maybe but you are also more likely to cause recycling of the exhaust air if the case is in a slightly restricted place and the hot air lingers around the pc
Exhausting air out of the bottom of your case is perfectly fine if you have the pressure to do it. Not really recommended, but it's not totally wrong either. Some cases actually get hotter letting the air flow out of the top.
That and done correctly as you stated they could even keep the vrms cooler as they have air blowing directly over them as opposed to warm air during a top exhaust. But I suppose if you’re not OCing that won’t really matter.
@@imAgentR A lot of compact cases have the air blowing out of the bottom of them through the RAD of the AIO. Some people will have a stroke that a RAD is at the bottom of a case and think it's totally wrong.
@@HandleIsNewAndBad Valid point, but that depends on the dynamics of the case too. Sometimes swirling air is more efficient at removing heat than straight flowing air.
Agreed. And there are numbers to support this as well. Take the video from Machines and More channel with a NR200 doing a vertical gpu setup with the bequiet silent loop aio-the thermals from a top exhaust were better in that instance, but only by 1-2 degrees C. It was a solid setup still. To the points made here, knowing your case and fan pressures will help. I always prefer giving the freshest air directly to the motherboard to help cool the other parts, like the vrms and the rad handles the rest quite well. But don’t take my word for it or any really. Takes a few minutes to switch the orientation to find out.
As someone that has a business where I build custom PCs, he is MOSTLY correct. With this specific case, he's absolutely correct. HOWEVER, with other cases things can change a little bit. You do typically want to go from front to back and bottom to top, but you also need to take into consideration that you want POSITIVE (or neutral) pressure inside the case to keep from sucking in dust through every hole in the case. In his example he has 5 intake and 4 exhaust fans and the radiator is restricting air on the top 3 fans. This would definitely give the case some nice positive pressure and help keep your case clean. Now if he had a 240 radiator on the side intake and all 4 fans were unrestricted at the top, you could have a neutral or possibly negative pressure case. Now if you take a look at cases that only have 2 front intake fans but have 3 exhaust fans at the top and 1 at the back, now you a case with LOTS of negative pressure. In this situation I'd run the 2 fans up front (which hopefully have a dust filter on them) and only one fan on the rear. This will keep positive pressure in the case but will still allow for heat to rise up out of the top of the case. Your components may run a little warmer due to a little less air flow but the case will stay cleaner longer. You COULD add 1 fan up top for a little more air flow but then you'll start to get negative pressure and will want to clean your PC more often.
The argument for "following physics" with hot air rising has been a myth for many years (watch @JayzTwoCents as he's made many videos on the subject). Fans can overcome convection very easily and it makes very little difference. I would say the original setup is actually better from a thermal perspective, as the intake fans at the top have much more open space to draw the cool air in from the top, rather than the restricted space at the bottom to pull air in from under the case. Also, pushing cool air through the rad does have a slight thermal improvement to blowing warm air through it. He also has positive pressure setup with more fans intaking, however the point about sucking dust into the case is correct (which just means more maintenance, doesn't reduce performance). The only point I would say is the fans at the bottom are impeded the same way if they were intake. For me, there are too many fans blowing in different directions, which can cause a vortex effect inside the case, causing air to get trapped and cause overall ambient temps to increase. Better to remove the fans on the motherboard tray and his setup is completely fine.
That's because hes living in 2034. He's going for the "tornado effect" in which the cool air comes frome every direction and mixed with the cool air, creating a swirl of mixed air, like a tornado, thus cooling the commponents under 10c.
I had this issue. A few years into owning my pc, it started having trouble turning on, and a few weeks later, stopped working completely. Turns that the fans for my cooler were facing the wrong way, and so was one of my other fans. I had one working fan in there. Plus, while building it, I was a dumbass and forgot to take the plastic off of the cooler part that connects to my cpu. Amazed it worked for that long before breaking. Got it fixed though.
A few years? Lol. Poor pc. Not even a single thermal repaste in all that time? And I'm assuming not even a dust cleaning, either. Crazy it worked that long.
They're not, they are routed under the motherboard, its an Eatx mobo and the case is for regular atx so the passthroughs are being covered by it and makes it look like they are passed through the fans.
And when you have an odd number of fans, always do more intake than output. You want positive pressure so that any gaps in the case aren’t pulling dust through spots that don’t have filters
There was one ship that managed its exhaust like that, and it was IJN Kaga. It was one of four aircraft carriers sunk at the Battle of Midway. It sucked.
I’m not gonna lie.. I did the exact same thing on my first build. I had no idea that the fans sucked air through the logo side and blew the air through the back side and support brackets. In my head I thought the brackets should’ve been hidden by the blades and there were no arrows on the fans lol. Someone told me the mistake before I finished it so I was able to correct it before putting the mobo in
Immediately after watching this, I went upstairs to check if my fans are setup correctly. It turns out, I don't even have top fans so it doesn't matter 💀
i bought 20 noctua 140mm fans and their all set to be intake, and the ultra positive air pressure turned my ATX into a micro ATX. Always wondered how those were made
My top fan is intake, its about 5 degrees cooler in this config and it has an excellent filter. This fan sits practically on top of a twin tower, dual fan, 7 pipe cooler feeding air right through the fins into the fans. Reason: The giant aluminum brick of cooler and the rear exhaust fan are super sucking all the hot air from the GPU and triple fan exhausting it out the back, no hot air ever makes it past that point. Besides, if it were exhaust my case would become positive pressure sucking in dust from every opening.
I have PSU intake from bottom blowing out the back (isolated from everything else) Fan intake from 2x 140mm front fans Fan intake from 2x 140mm Top (drawing air in through AIO radiator on top) And 1x fan exhaust in the back 140mm 100% positive pressure and fan profile is set so front and top intake fans (Medium RPM set) ramp up together with the back exhaust fan (High RPM set) Works perfectly, dust free and everything keeps cool and quiet. The back fan takes care of moving the hot air from the AIO, MB/MEM/NVME as well as the GPU (which has a cooler setup that circulates about 25-30% of it's airflow back into the case) BeQuiet standard ATX size case and all BeQuiet fans with i7 12700k oc'd, 3800mhz-DDR4, RTX 3080 oc'd and 4x NVME & 1x Sata SSD. Good case and fan selection as well as a properly tuned fan profile is key
To follow physics you want it to be relatively pressure neutral. Look at your fans flow and do the math period. Hot air does rise but putting your fan against that direction doesnt mean it cancels out they arent neutral forces. The other thing to consider is what your PC is on. If its on carpet make the bottom exgaust otherwise dust build up can be more of an issue.
ur not gonna believe where that falling dust ends up bottom exhaust is *fine* and much preferable to bottom intake if your pc spends time on the ground
Hi genuine question here, recently built my first pc and I am using the vetro v5 fan. I want to know if it is set as exhaust or intake but the fan itself doesn’t have a type of indicator so I dont know if the side of the fan with the logo is classed as the intake or exhaust. Also in the manual the fan part (not the heatsink) is shown to be assembled right next to the ram sticks and I wanted to know as well if I can just put it on the other side which has more space or would it matter? Thank you for any help.
Most efficient location for your fan on the cpu cooler is closer to the front of the case set to intake. If you wanted to you could put it on the other side exhausting hot air from the cpu, but it will make the cpu run a bit hotter. You can tell which side of the fan intakes airflow based on the fans support beams on the back. The face of the fan will always suck the air through the fan(unless you have reverse blades) and the back of the fan with the support beams will always exhaust the air In other words, logo side is intake in your case
Look on the outer frame of the fan, there is usually an arrow that indicates flow direction. Usually, the side without the motor visible is the intake side, but that's not always the case
@@virrebooi93I just wanted to say this. Or put a thin piece of paper/aluminium-/tinfoil near the fan and you'll see if it blows or sucks on the given side
I have the top (AIO), and front (fan) sucking air in and the back fan pushing air out the back. It makes it easier to clean the front/top with negligible impact to cooling.
Well actually if you put that rig on a carpet, its better in the 1st config as long as you put dust filters on the inake fans. Just clean the filter every once in a while.
Zach this is my first time building a gaming PC tell me if I should change anything: ASUS Stix 4090(white), ASUS Strix Z790A Gaming WiFi, Corsair Dominator Titanium 32GB (7200mhz), Lian Li Galahad Il Trinity SLINF, Lian Li 011 Dynamic EVO XL, Lian Li SL-INF 120mm Fans, Lian Li 24pin Strimmer Plus V2, Lian Li Strimer Plus 18-8 VGA Cable, and ASUS ROG THOR 1000W. Tell me if I should change anything
Hot air doesn’t get a chance to rise when it’s being blown around by that many fans. It really makes bugger all difference. It’s ideal to have bottom as intake and top as exhaust purely from a dust perspective but it makes 0 difference to performance if you do it the opposite way. Hell, you could have all fans as intake.
In my PC i have 2 front 120mm fans as intake which is the maximum that will fit. A hyper 212 blowing the hot air from the CPU straight into a rear 120mm exhaust fan. This is partly why i love having a aftermarket tower coolers. Theres also the fact that if you keep them clean they last alot longer than AIOs, and if the fan is a standard size you can replace the fan if it becomes noisy. Mind you my CPU isnt known for running hot (i5 11400f). Btw if you want to buy a tower cooler today dont buy a hyper 212 in 2024, theres better options these days that are higher quality and at the same time cheaper. Like the Arctic freezer 36, or deepcool ak400. Also Thermalright are also very good, just not available where i live.
Some say optimal top mounting would have the one up front away from the cpu actually be intake. The other(s) should be out…..I am some, some is me…. People can argue that if they want to but it’s the coolest temps I’ve ever had without liquid so good luck convincing me.
In fairness, I’ve seen people advise doing air out the bottom of you have carpet because it is less dusty. Not great advice but I can see why someone would try it
Hot air rising has nothing to do with PC cooling, a small amount of fan noise can easily overcome that. The main benefit of bottom intake is the GPU doesn't recirculate its own exhaust as it will with top-down flow and to a lesser extent with front-back flow.
Storytime I'm gonna be completely honest when I build a PC for the first time a placed fans In a way that all fans were taking air in but there was not a single fan taking air out so obviously temps were a little high and I was wondering what I did wrong until my dad came and helped me with that
the top 3 and the 1 rear of case should be exhaust and the rest should be in-take !!! so the water cooler has a chance !!! at least that is how I would set that tower up. so not to drag to much hot air trough the rad !!!
Eh, I'd say leave the rear fan as intake. Nothing keeps dust out like positive pressure. Also, a bottom intake isn't much better than a top intake , it just ends up sucking in all the dust that would've landed around the case. If you keep your case on a small platform not much larger than the case itself, or tucked away in a similarly small cubby, then it does provide better airflow, but if you have your PC out on top of your desk then it's going to be sucking in almost as much dust as a top intake.
Your way is also only half correct. You want have over pressure (or under pressure) in your case. So wen you use 3 Fans out, then use 4 in. Or if you use 3 Fans in, then use 4 out. Tepends on the case and the used components. But mostly the over pressure variant is the best.
Yo so I have my AIO at the top. Is it bad if I have the fans intaking air even though all my front fans are intake too? Or should I rearrange something? Idk that part has always confused me
Day 2 video 2 of asking: Question for graphics card, I got a pre built and I'm trying to upgrade it some, what are some recommendations for a upgrade from a Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 Ti? Trying to get that far cry 6 hd graphics working good
Don't forget the people who put everything on exhaust because it looks better with the lighting. The most common mistake is putting the side fans as exhaust.
You actually don't need top fans to be exhaust if you have filters on your PC. Yeah heat rises but it's beyond negligible in a PC case. I have a Y70 case and all my fans except the rear are intake and I get great thermals. This is actually going off the same philosphy you see in massive server centers.
Then a question me who has a Fractal torrent how am I supposed to set them up since I don't have top fans but have bottom fans, I at this point in time have bottom out and front in and the only rear is the cpu cooler blowing backwards against the metal mesh that is the rear, the cpu cooler is then a noctuan NH-d15 so quite the blow is possible but yeah?
Hello Zack. I have a problem. My MacBook Pro 2019 (running windows with bootcamp) is overheating to over 100°C. I just open a game (usually Minecraft) and the temperature goes up immediately (GPU and CPU around 20-50% load). Do you know any possible solutions for this. Thanks :3
might have set up his fans wrong but he was smart to ask if he did it wrong so he could learn some good info to fix it
Yes! Exactly! You can mess up, just ask for help if you're not sure, tho. Don't just say, eh whatever.
It's better to mess up and ask for advice than feeling like you'll never made a mistake ever.
Could/should have looked it up first and saved time and hassle
last time I got asked for a advice I got laughed at lol
@@akazumi4553 yeah same but like any community there is assholes
perfect-ly wrong
he almost got me there
😂😂
This is a perfect example... Of what not to do when writing a comment
@@infinitedragonsunlockedleave them alone
@@Nb_2089 yeah
almost gone full on nerd mode lmao
After reading these comment I've come to the conclusion watching ZTT shorts should count as a mental condition.
Bros temp and pc cleaning💀
Alt title: How to not create a multi-sided vacuum cleaner
Edit: 400 likes thanks!
Saying thanks for likes is like saying thanks for laughing at a comedy show
@@UN1101 lol
@@xTornn lol
Snapshotted for the cringe reddit page.
@@cooldudep L
Heat rises cold sinks IS true... Without outside influence. The second you're throwing outside forces, say... From fans... You're GOING to overcome the natural settlement of air molecules. SO, as someone else here has said, you ABSOLUTELY can use bottom exhaust, and if you're GOING to place a PC on or above carpet, I'd actually RECOMMEND this approach, so long as you ensure your fan selection can produce the requisite pressure column(s).
Maybe but you are also more likely to cause recycling of the exhaust air if the case is in a slightly restricted place and the hot air lingers around the pc
@@fatidicusaeternus6498 Again, all comes down to the case and your fan setup. Air in motion under force is a fluid. 🙂
But now you’re potentially starving the GPU of air assuming you have it mounted horizontally.
@@infiniteblaz3416 For the third time. Case. Fan set up. YIMMV.
pc on carpet? dayum, inflammable carpet 🔥🔥🔥
Vacuum cleaner build 😂
are we not gonna talk about that psu cables going through the fan or is that part of the joke?
That's so cursed 🤣
i was seeing if anyone noticed the 24pin thru the fan
Dat is sick.
the cable need cooling obv, its gonna fill the case with microplastics cuz it melts 💢💢💢
Cables appear to be going through both side fans, makes this whole thing look like a joke.
Exhausting air out of the bottom of your case is perfectly fine if you have the pressure to do it. Not really recommended, but it's not totally wrong either. Some cases actually get hotter letting the air flow out of the top.
That and done correctly as you stated they could even keep the vrms cooler as they have air blowing directly over them as opposed to warm air during a top exhaust. But I suppose if you’re not OCing that won’t really matter.
@@imAgentR A lot of compact cases have the air blowing out of the bottom of them through the RAD of the AIO. Some people will have a stroke that a RAD is at the bottom of a case and think it's totally wrong.
So, it doesn't matter whether or not the GPU and bottom fans were pulling air from each other, when done right?
@@HandleIsNewAndBad Valid point, but that depends on the dynamics of the case too. Sometimes swirling air is more efficient at removing heat than straight flowing air.
Agreed. And there are numbers to support this as well. Take the video from Machines and More channel with a NR200 doing a vertical gpu setup with the bequiet silent loop aio-the thermals from a top exhaust were better in that instance, but only by 1-2 degrees C. It was a solid setup still.
To the points made here, knowing your case and fan pressures will help.
I always prefer giving the freshest air directly to the motherboard to help cool the other parts, like the vrms and the rad handles the rest quite well.
But don’t take my word for it or any really. Takes a few minutes to switch the orientation to find out.
As someone that has a business where I build custom PCs, he is MOSTLY correct. With this specific case, he's absolutely correct. HOWEVER, with other cases things can change a little bit. You do typically want to go from front to back and bottom to top, but you also need to take into consideration that you want POSITIVE (or neutral) pressure inside the case to keep from sucking in dust through every hole in the case. In his example he has 5 intake and 4 exhaust fans and the radiator is restricting air on the top 3 fans. This would definitely give the case some nice positive pressure and help keep your case clean. Now if he had a 240 radiator on the side intake and all 4 fans were unrestricted at the top, you could have a neutral or possibly negative pressure case. Now if you take a look at cases that only have 2 front intake fans but have 3 exhaust fans at the top and 1 at the back, now you a case with LOTS of negative pressure. In this situation I'd run the 2 fans up front (which hopefully have a dust filter on them) and only one fan on the rear. This will keep positive pressure in the case but will still allow for heat to rise up out of the top of the case. Your components may run a little warmer due to a little less air flow but the case will stay cleaner longer. You COULD add 1 fan up top for a little more air flow but then you'll start to get negative pressure and will want to clean your PC more often.
As someone that has a business where you build custom PCs, did you happen to notice the cables going through the side fans...
I actually would recommend having the back fan as intake and the two on the side as exhaust.
As someone with PC experience bro looks like he’s trying to make a jet engine. Pulling in air and exhausting hot air to make lift.😂
My dad used to say, “No one is worthless, you can always be used as a bad example.”
*dirt has left the chat*
the bottom fans will pick up dust over time bro 🗿
then dont put it on the ground ig, and even that doesnt make sence, cus itl also take dust from the top fans.
@@rusty1253 But it has to be on the floor with the others towers, because there's no room on the table .
Bottom has a filter you can see the pull tab for the tray at the bottom so it will be minimal and easy to clean
@@TheGarner0 top also has a filter
The argument for "following physics" with hot air rising has been a myth for many years (watch @JayzTwoCents as he's made many videos on the subject). Fans can overcome convection very easily and it makes very little difference. I would say the original setup is actually better from a thermal perspective, as the intake fans at the top have much more open space to draw the cool air in from the top, rather than the restricted space at the bottom to pull air in from under the case. Also, pushing cool air through the rad does have a slight thermal improvement to blowing warm air through it. He also has positive pressure setup with more fans intaking, however the point about sucking dust into the case is correct (which just means more maintenance, doesn't reduce performance). The only point I would say is the fans at the bottom are impeded the same way if they were intake. For me, there are too many fans blowing in different directions, which can cause a vortex effect inside the case, causing air to get trapped and cause overall ambient temps to increase. Better to remove the fans on the motherboard tray and his setup is completely fine.
That's because hes living in 2034. He's going for the "tornado effect" in which the cool air comes frome every direction and mixed with the cool air, creating a swirl of mixed air, like a tornado, thus cooling the commponents under 10c.
I had this issue. A few years into owning my pc, it started having trouble turning on, and a few weeks later, stopped working completely. Turns that the fans for my cooler were facing the wrong way, and so was one of my other fans. I had one working fan in there. Plus, while building it, I was a dumbass and forgot to take the plastic off of the cooler part that connects to my cpu. Amazed it worked for that long before breaking. Got it fixed though.
This is like a meme
A few years? Lol. Poor pc. Not even a single thermal repaste in all that time? And I'm assuming not even a dust cleaning, either. Crazy it worked that long.
Intake everywhere, but the rear and get PVC piping from it to outside so your room doesn’t get hot
"your pc has to be on a solid surface"
Me and my pc chilling in the the ocean sadly calling for help to get a table*
*The Dudley Boyz appear*
Can I mount a RTX 4090 with a Ryzen 7 5700X processor on a MSI B450M pro VDH max ?
I think so
Brooo....You can afford a 4090 but not a good processor
A b450m 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
@@CDPS_animates wait there are 4090 tis ????
22nd day and 66th time asking ZTT ro make an overkill ($3000+) ITX pc build guide.
Bro just forgot that psu modular was passed through fans
Okay, I thought I was going crazy since no one else was pointing it out.
They're not, they are routed under the motherboard, its an Eatx mobo and the case is for regular atx so the passthroughs are being covered by it and makes it look like they are passed through the fans.
Love the vids Zack
Not forgetting if you have an odd number of fans to have more in than out. Positive pressure inside is better for keeping dust out
Thank you for this video!
"Just make sure it's on a solid surface" Nahh mann my pc likes to float in the air
Bro can cook pizza rolls on the back of his gpu.
PC that doubles as an air fryer.
And when you have an odd number of fans, always do more intake than output. You want positive pressure so that any gaps in the case aren’t pulling dust through spots that don’t have filters
There was one ship that managed its exhaust like that, and it was IJN Kaga. It was one of four aircraft carriers sunk at the Battle of Midway. It sucked.
I’m not gonna lie.. I did the exact same thing on my first build. I had no idea that the fans sucked air through the logo side and blew the air through the back side and support brackets. In my head I thought the brackets should’ve been hidden by the blades and there were no arrows on the fans lol. Someone told me the mistake before I finished it so I was able to correct it before putting the mobo in
I also think the GPU connector could be a bit cleaner
I agree but mine is way worse 😂 i think it looks like bomb more than a pc lmao.
Ngl when I looked at the thumbnail I though it was loads of those wavy balloon people thing s
That wallpaper though..lol.
Immediately after watching this, I went upstairs to check if my fans are setup correctly. It turns out, I don't even have top fans so it doesn't matter 💀
i bought 20 noctua 140mm fans and their all set to be intake, and the ultra positive air pressure turned my ATX into a micro ATX. Always wondered how those were made
Shit i need to check my ps5 fans thanx dude 😎
There’s a good reason why an excess for almost anything is in the back
I’m amazed how much of pc building is just common sense but people don’t understand.
My top fan is intake, its about 5 degrees cooler in this config and it has an excellent filter. This fan sits practically on top of a twin tower, dual fan, 7 pipe cooler feeding air right through the fins into the fans. Reason: The giant aluminum brick of cooler and the rear exhaust fan are super sucking all the hot air from the GPU and triple fan exhausting it out the back, no hot air ever makes it past that point. Besides, if it were exhaust my case would become positive pressure sucking in dust from every opening.
I have PSU intake from bottom blowing out the back (isolated from everything else)
Fan intake from 2x 140mm front fans
Fan intake from 2x 140mm Top (drawing air in through AIO radiator on top)
And 1x fan exhaust in the back 140mm
100% positive pressure and fan profile is set so front and top intake fans (Medium RPM set) ramp up together with the back exhaust fan (High RPM set)
Works perfectly, dust free and everything keeps cool and quiet. The back fan takes care of moving the hot air from the AIO, MB/MEM/NVME as well as the GPU (which has a cooler setup that circulates about 25-30% of it's airflow back into the case)
BeQuiet standard ATX size case and all BeQuiet fans with i7 12700k oc'd, 3800mhz-DDR4, RTX 3080 oc'd and 4x NVME & 1x Sata SSD.
Good case and fan selection as well as a properly tuned fan profile is key
bro really was just doing things fr
To follow physics you want it to be relatively pressure neutral. Look at your fans flow and do the math period. Hot air does rise but putting your fan against that direction doesnt mean it cancels out they arent neutral forces.
The other thing to consider is what your PC is on. If its on carpet make the bottom exgaust otherwise dust build up can be more of an issue.
ur not gonna believe where that falling dust ends up
bottom exhaust is *fine* and much preferable to bottom intake if your pc spends time on the ground
My back one is a intake because my cpu runs hot. It does help keep it cool other wise it would be exhaust.
Sisko cameo :O
also put the radiator on the side so it doesn't take hot air to cool the cpu
I mean he's trying to make a rocket out of those fans.
I prefer to have all exhaust system with carbon filters catching all the small particles that might want to enter
Hi genuine question here, recently built my first pc and I am using the vetro v5 fan. I want to know if it is set as exhaust or intake but the fan itself doesn’t have a type of indicator so I dont know if the side of the fan with the logo is classed as the intake or exhaust. Also in the manual the fan part (not the heatsink) is shown to be assembled right next to the ram sticks and I wanted to know as well if I can just put it on the other side which has more space or would it matter?
Thank you for any help.
Most efficient location for your fan on the cpu cooler is closer to the front of the case set to intake. If you wanted to you could put it on the other side exhausting hot air from the cpu, but it will make the cpu run a bit hotter.
You can tell which side of the fan intakes airflow based on the fans support beams on the back. The face of the fan will always suck the air through the fan(unless you have reverse blades) and the back of the fan with the support beams will always exhaust the air
In other words, logo side is intake in your case
Look on the outer frame of the fan, there is usually an arrow that indicates flow direction. Usually, the side without the motor visible is the intake side, but that's not always the case
Start the fan and feel which direction it blows
@@virrebooi93I just wanted to say this. Or put a thin piece of paper/aluminium-/tinfoil near the fan and you'll see if it blows or sucks on the given side
Hey Zach I have a Ryzen 5 2600 and a GeForce GTX 1070 to what should I upgrade to in the future
Get a 5600 then a rx 7700xt
Is the ryzen 9 7900X3D and 4090 a good combo?
I have the top (AIO), and front (fan) sucking air in and the back fan pushing air out the back. It makes it easier to clean the front/top with negligible impact to cooling.
I have that same blue pc case
I would add speeding up the rpm of the exhaust to accommodate for the 1 extra intake fan
Linus proved in a video ages ago that factoring in heat rising in your fan settup changes little to nothing in overall temps
If you have air cooling it’s ok to have an intake at the top so fresh air gets in your air cooler
Dude Miss The Part in School Where You Learn About Heat Rises.
Well actually if you put that rig on a carpet, its better in the 1st config as long as you put dust filters on the inake fans. Just clean the filter every once in a while.
Imagine he did it correctly but everyone misunderstood him to be perfectly wrong 😂
You should put your aio on intake for better cpu temperatures
Zach this is my first time building a gaming PC tell me if I should change anything: ASUS Stix 4090(white), ASUS Strix Z790A Gaming WiFi, Corsair Dominator Titanium 32GB (7200mhz), Lian Li Galahad Il Trinity SLINF, Lian Li 011 Dynamic EVO XL, Lian Li SL-INF 120mm Fans, Lian Li 24pin Strimmer Plus V2, Lian Li Strimer Plus 18-8 VGA Cable, and
ASUS ROG THOR 1000W. Tell me if I should change anything
Hot air doesn’t get a chance to rise when it’s being blown around by that many fans. It really makes bugger all difference. It’s ideal to have bottom as intake and top as exhaust purely from a dust perspective but it makes 0 difference to performance if you do it the opposite way. Hell, you could have all fans as intake.
In my PC i have 2 front 120mm fans as intake which is the maximum that will fit. A hyper 212 blowing the hot air from the CPU straight into a rear 120mm exhaust fan. This is partly why i love having a aftermarket tower coolers. Theres also the fact that if you keep them clean they last alot longer than AIOs, and if the fan is a standard size you can replace the fan if it becomes noisy. Mind you my CPU isnt known for running hot (i5 11400f).
Btw if you want to buy a tower cooler today dont buy a hyper 212 in 2024, theres better options these days that are higher quality and at the same time cheaper. Like the Arctic freezer 36, or deepcool ak400. Also Thermalright are also very good, just not available where i live.
Unfortunally case manufacturers rarely put radiator support in the top of the case
intake front and bottom, outlet top and rear. people just complicate these basic principles.
Some say optimal top mounting would have the one up front away from the cpu actually be intake. The other(s) should be out…..I am some, some is me…. People can argue that if they want to but it’s the coolest temps I’ve ever had without liquid so good luck convincing me.
In fairness, I’ve seen people advise doing air out the bottom of you have carpet because it is less dusty. Not great advice but I can see why someone would try it
You also don't want to be blowing hot air down onto your desk... Try and get the hot air above you, not around your hands
At least he knew how to mount cpu ram and gpu 😂
Hot air rising has nothing to do with PC cooling, a small amount of fan noise can easily overcome that. The main benefit of bottom intake is the GPU doesn't recirculate its own exhaust as it will with top-down flow and to a lesser extent with front-back flow.
"Heat rises, cold falls"
It's sad that even some tech tubers get this wrong.
Bro failed his physics class
Please make a video demonstrating how to properly use cable combs. I always see people musing them incorrectly 😭
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I'm gonna be completely honest when I build a PC for the first time a placed fans In a way that all fans were taking air in but there was not a single fan taking air out so obviously temps were a little high and I was wondering what I did wrong until my dad came and helped me with that
I have the same case setup, what about bottom intake and the top, side and back exhaust?
So should I face the hot air outflow toward myself as a heater in winter😂?
the top 3 and the 1 rear of case should be exhaust and the rest should be in-take !!! so the water cooler has a chance !!! at least that is how I would set that tower up. so not to drag to much hot air trough the rad !!!
Eh, I'd say leave the rear fan as intake. Nothing keeps dust out like positive pressure.
Also, a bottom intake isn't much better than a top intake , it just ends up sucking in all the dust that would've landed around the case. If you keep your case on a small platform not much larger than the case itself, or tucked away in a similarly small cubby, then it does provide better airflow, but if you have your PC out on top of your desk then it's going to be sucking in almost as much dust as a top intake.
i feel like the poster might not know which side of his fan is in and which is out tbh
Your way is also only half correct. You want have over pressure (or under pressure) in your case.
So wen you use 3 Fans out, then use 4 in. Or if you use 3 Fans in, then use 4 out. Tepends on the case and the used components. But mostly the over pressure variant is the best.
So Silverstone’s vertical case for chimney effect is correct 😂
Yo so I have my AIO at the top. Is it bad if I have the fans intaking air even though all my front fans are intake too? Or should I rearrange something? Idk that part has always confused me
Day 2 video 2 of asking: Question for graphics card, I got a pre built and I'm trying to upgrade it some, what are some recommendations for a upgrade from a Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 Ti? Trying to get that far cry 6 hd graphics working good
Don't forget the people who put everything on exhaust because it looks better with the lighting. The most common mistake is putting the side fans as exhaust.
You actually don't need top fans to be exhaust if you have filters on your PC. Yeah heat rises but it's beyond negligible in a PC case. I have a Y70 case and all my fans except the rear are intake and I get great thermals. This is actually going off the same philosphy you see in massive server centers.
Doesn't intake airflow coming from the bottom of the tower get blocked/turbulent by the GPU? Isn't the GPU right in the way of all those fans?
how do you add intake fans if you can’t from the bottom or sides
Then a question me who has a Fractal torrent how am I supposed to set them up since I don't have top fans but have bottom fans, I at this point in time have bottom out and front in and the only rear is the cpu cooler blowing backwards against the metal mesh that is the rear, the cpu cooler is then a noctuan NH-d15 so quite the blow is possible but yeah?
Hello Zack. I have a problem. My MacBook Pro 2019 (running windows with bootcamp) is overheating to over 100°C. I just open a game (usually Minecraft) and the temperature goes up immediately (GPU and CPU around 20-50% load). Do you know any possible solutions for this. Thanks :3
which adapter card nvme m.2 do u command?
Yes heat rises . Some processors come on fire though lmao..
And never the radiator on top, because its getting hotter unless you have multiple radiators
Is 2 top intake and 1 exhaust on the back ok for a 5 5600x and a 3060
What mousepad and keyboard do you use?
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Please make a budget build with and am5 cpu?
I need a VR capable PC that can run b. Mg, drive at max graphics. What parts do you suggest?
What should i do for a h9 flow build with radiator on top
Hey, I have a ryzen 5 7800x3d what Gpu should I pair with it in 500 dollars
im still learning how to consistently build pcs and not a master builder but how do you mess up that bad
I have a question I am saving for a 3060 and do not know how to build but if I sent you the 3060 and my pc could you?