Newcastle United have FOUND a £40m PSR solution - they must unleash it NOW
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2024
- Liam, Jordan and Dom discuss Newcastle United's situation ahead of Sunday's Premier League PSR deadline as the club looks to sell Yankuba Minteh.
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Just hope we get rid of almiron and Wilson . Possible trippier too if it’s to bring extra funds . Tripps isn’t the player he was , Wilson has an horrific injury record and almiron isn’t good enough ( although he does give 100% )
I don't believe Newcastle are In trouble with PSR, but I think they're happy for everyone to believe they are.
Our financial year hasn't finished, money is still coming in, and no one knows other than the owners what the books show.
It was reported a couple of months back that a share was sold, which raised 37m to cover any PSR issue.
No one even mentions that or the fact the club could do it again if needs be.
The alternative is we're in trouble.
A trillion dollar investment fund is going to look extremely silly.
They can't balance the books of average size PL football club.
Very very embarrassing!
Heads would roll.
If we've scope for sponsorship (which we have) and this has been allowed to happen, why has no one been sacked?
Not saying trouble, but from conversations we've all had, we, like others, are of the understanding a sale seems the most likely way out of a shortfall. Would be unbecoming to miss a target like this, especially all they've said. Only time will tell. - L
@GeordieJournos If there's a shortfall, we'll be in trouble as Masters and the PL are desperate to teach us a lesson.
They never wanted the takeover to happen.
I'm happy to wait to see.
I'm not worried about any potential shortfall as I see the owners as proper business people who wouldn't take the risk with Masters and the PL watching every move waiting for a mistake.
We'd be giving them the opportunity to make an example of us they've wanted since day one of the new ownership, show us who's boss, so to speak.
Obviously, we'll see in the next few days if this is just a smokescreen to do other business on the quiet.
Eddie is the master of saying a lot without giving anything of value away, I'd like to think people behind the scenes are the same.
It never makes sense to show your hand early, but bluffing starts the minute you pick it up.
First, how moronic is it that the PSR/FFP soft deadline is in the middle of a transfer window?
Second, why is PSR/FFP tied to income, which as we've seen with the Villa/Everton deal, can be finessed? It should be tied to debt, which is the real danger for a club's existence.
Third, why has the loss limit not been adjusted for inflation in more than a decade?
It definitely needs adjusted, if not binned. - L
Because it suited the Big 6 to keep everyone down.
Football has always been a cutthroat industrie and kids are always jettisoned through the youth system but that is because for whatever reasons they do not reach the required performance levels. But hawking a kid around the doors because he has reached the required performance levels and members of the senior management have not done their jobs is just wrong.
In my opinion buying a kid having absolutely nothing to do with his development ( not even judging him within the group) and then moving him on like a piece of meat in my opinion is very very ethically questionable and is certainly not how I want my club to behave.
This is of course if reports are to be believed.
Before I’m told oh it’s not the club it’s PSR I will stick to the rule my mam taught me 2 wrongs will never make a right
Agree on the questionable ethics. - L
With the money involved and the level the club are aiming at we could harm a player's career by hanging on to them when they could be getting game time elsewhere. With how selling homegrown players massively benefits clubs these days the problem of questionable ethics rests with who created the rules, not the clubs who have to follow them and compete.
@@limmy7411 I’m afraid we will have to disagree as I said in my post 2 wrongs don’t make a right and never will to my mind. We knew the rules and it appears if reports are correct we were not professional enough to adhere to them so sell a kid like a lump of meat without even looking at him with the group to judge him. That’s not how I want my club to behave. Not bothered how other clubs behave
@@user-sc7kl7md3j I think you're correct but it's just not the way it works is it? I read an article about Chelsea and it likened their academy operation to a trawler decimating the sea bed for a couple of prize fish. To me though it seems to work both ways, if anything the player has the power not the club.
@@britannia079 that may be how Chelsea behave but like I said in earlier post I’m not interested in how other clubs operate only in how my club operates and I think our behaviour regarding trading Minteh ( if reports are correct) are wrong
Miggy was all lined up to leave for Saudi but turned it down, Eddie wanted to keep players we had offers for in January. For me Eddie never seems to want to sell anyone.
Have they not looked into stadium naming sponsorship could raise huge amount of money
They should. Training kit, training ground... - L
Great video as always lads, points discussed fairly and without drama/ inflammatory words. Thank you!!
Think your camera setting is on auto focus?? Keeps readjusting in/out
Yes, noted. We had major issues with lighting, too. - L
Just take the points deduction, we did it to ourselves last season , Forest at home, 3 points, Luton away 3 points, Home to Luton 2 points dropped, that's 8 points, bigger squad we would have not dropped them so, Masters bring it on..
Not for me, points make prizes. But thanks for sharing your views! - L
PSR should be means tested/adjusted for geographical location.
Chelsea etc. selling real estate in West London raises more revenue proportionally than if the same property was sold in Newcastle/Liverpool. Same goes for profit made from match day hospitality & even merchandise......you can charge double down South (where wages are higher) - 1 flat amount across the league regardless of location tilts the balance in favour of certain clubs & against others
Lads, why are you all happy to sell a young lad who is up and coming, rather than push sales of the players who are 30+ who's best days are behind them?
It's not about being happy. It is pragmatism. Plain and simple. You can't magic buyers for other players when there are none before the end of the month. - L
I sense the Minteh sale is a better option than others the Board will have so I am confident that we will be inside the PSR boundaries but if no Minteh sale then we may lose players that we don’t want to lose while not having options to replace lined up. Best of luck for the show guys, been an amazing ride so far, well done/
Thanks for your support as always, Mark!
- J
Any substance to the reports Chelsea have held further discussions regarding Isak?
Keith is always on the money. - L
The board are constantly telling us we have to be careful what we spend because of FFP -PSR and your saying it could be as high as 40 million somebody is taking the piss if its anywhere over 10- 15 million somebody’s got to be for the chop
😂😂 I heard it’s a ballpark between £1 and £100m. 😂😂
Why do you think they’ve waited till now? Do you really think they never tried in January? Honestly have a word!! It actually seems like players that were wanted didn’t want to leave and then no one wanted anyone else.
Trippier was wanted and wanted to leave. Wilson was wanted and would have left. They had genuine interest in January. Nothing concrete yet this summer. - L
How can it be 40 million that’s close to a 40 % overspend 5 million I could understand but 40 is an absolute disgrace spending that much over if correct we deserve everything we get
It’s all If’s & Ands!! No one knows what is actually going on and the silence out of SJP is understandable. Why would they tell anyone need to make a sale this weekend??? It just doesn’t make any sense on financial, business or commercial level. My gut feeling is there are other issues at play here! Anyway it will all come out in the wash 👍
Correct. Tried to explain that a little on this video. - L
We did the Gordon deal at the 11th hour, I do believe there is still something in the pipeline. I trust they know what they’re doing, and if we don’t sell I’m sure there’s a good reason. Other clubs know the predicament we’re in with PSR and can play that to their advantage so I’m sure we’re being very strategic
Good point. There's a lot going on, that's fair to say. - L
Facts not fades! More time on facts and less on visits to the barber!:)
If we were to do a swap deal for Minteh, i would be much happier if it was for someone like Mbuemo, rather than Calvert-Lewin.
Guys, could you look at an episode about “if Newcastle don’t bring in any signings” Toonali, Barnes & Hall will seem like new one next season - cheers
I mean, we hope that's definitely not the case. - L
We need to get rid of all the gutter trash like Almiron, Targett and most especially
Longstaff. Poor players who belong in the championship. Not selling guys like yamkumba
Do you lads know why the Fraser deal is taking so long?not from a psr perspective but just the fact that in theory you have three willing parties but it is taking an age and it would be nice to shift his wages
Definitely a deal to be done, but we don't yet know if there are three willing parties. - L
Great studio... but the audio needs sorted, lads.
We will get there eventually. I forgot our usual mic. Apologies - L
Awww man I have so many channels and streaming services and none of them have the channel you’re going to be on, will it be on RUclips too?
It will. - L
Geordie speculators, more like.
PSR is just an underhand way of keeping 14 or 15 teams in the premier league from ever competing or having aspirations of getting into the top six AND the rulemakers are saying if you DARE try we will keep changing the rules to piss you all right off
Certainly feels that way. - L
How are ManUd with FFP or PSR if they are 1 Billion in debt??
Their revenue is astronomical. - L
@@GeordieJournos they made a loss of £27 million last year, with a 1 Billion debt from how long ago? Surely the FA should force them to get it under control.
It’s a big caveat though. It’s just massive speculation! “Close to the edge” isn’t we’re short £40m. And no, we don’t know that the “club needs to raise something”. Sticking a “just my opinion” afterwards is a bit slack. Love you guys, though:) xxx
No worries. Appreciate your view, however, until the info is public, ZERO people will know the shortfall. - L
@@GeordieJournosIt seems to me the club's don't seem 100% sure what the figures are. I think if there was a firm line that was clear clubs would just stick to it but they are having to be over cautious. Look at the Sela deal, it was widely reported it was probably commercially less than it should have been because the club were fearful of the scrutiny a larger deal would bring
Or annouce a training ground sponsor, let's say addidas??
Nufc a selling club . Nothing ever changes
Due to these stupid sustainability rules every club is a selling club. Do you think Man City wanted to sell Palmer? They had no choice
@@britannia079 Difference is look at Man Citys first team . Good players obviously want first team football . Minty would solve our rw problem but no theyd rather sell the kid and have the busted flush that is DCL .
I mean, that's quite a jump. - L
@@GeordieJournos Nope its reality
Been reported today that apparently the Minteh to Everton/ DCL to Newcastle talks are back on ?
What a disgrace
I'm not sure they ever were really dead. Newcastle talks go back two years. - L
@@GeordieJournos do you think the respective deals will happen ?
@@GeordieJournos and this is why Eddie Howe needs to leave this club, the man is a shambles. He’s the reason we are forking out big money for Harvey Barnes, DCL, etc, bring in some young talent that’s much cheaper and much better ffs!! I’m starting to detest Howe with a passion
Sadly most of the fans are here demanding a team that tries than wins. So the majority will not want Howe out. He’s a typical English, Southgate type of guy. I would rather have someone like Xabi Alonso, or the guy who recently left Dortmund
Tbf they looked like they were selling Almiron in January
Looked like isn’t good enough mate if they are patronising is about how carful we have to be and then drastically over spend we deserve everything we get and we can kiss any sort of European football in to touch if we get a points deduction
He was gone. Until he dug his feet in. - L
@@GeordieJournos our strategy cannot be based on who we might be able to sell ins and outs are what create turnover not who we might be able to sell at a later date this is school boy accounting this has really pissed me off
Almiron needs to go.
Agreed. - L
The 3 stooges of NUFC news coverage.
Thanks for stopping by 👍
- J
If this is true then shame on my club that I love. Reported by the sun couple of days ago.. Minteh was threatened by the club, with banishment to the youth team for refusing to sign for Lyon.
If true then that is digraceful.
Dont believe what you read in The Sun
@@firestarter1888 it’s not true, the sun newspaper wrote it 😂
The Sun is a quality paper and should be taken as gospel? I wouldn't be surprised if he was told that if he stays he won't be part of the first team picture, which is a bit different to being "threatened" with the youth team. He's unlikely to be in our Premier League squad due to numbers so sell him
It's the Sun utter crap.
FFP has been 105 million over three years since it started not even raised with any sort of inflation it would have to be closer to 200 million
The rules aren't fit for purpose. - L
@@GeordieJournos 100% agree but we must all work to the rules that are in place until they’re changed
@@BigDom61 exactly. - L
NUFC are on the decline, will finish no higher than 8th this season.
Let's see... - L
Eddie Howe is to blame, him having a say in any transfers only leads to overpriced, british, injury prone DROSS! - just sell the naming rights to the training ground to Sela. How this hasn’t been done yet is baffling. What on earth does Darren Eales even do?
I think there is quirky issues on training sponsorship related to the legacy Fun88 deal?
Of course, why didn't we all think of that? Do you not think with the individuals involved with the club now that they haven't already thought of that? Howay man
It was howe who recommended Isak.
@@britannia079 Haway is mackem slang howay is Geordie Howay 😂
@@shauntaylor6040 Exactly, not to mention he's at least doubled the value of the squad. I can't get me head around some of the stuff people spout, what dross has Howe brought to the club?