Nice! I used a 27C256 rather than 512 - so only room for x8 4k games.. However to toggle games (as 256 has no A15) ....cut two tracks (or you can just cut the original track and lift pin 27 which is address line 14 ) connect pin 27 to same underside patch wire. Forum did say to connect vpp to +5 (pins 1 & 28) for using 256 eproms - but it's missing something as without the extra steps above, toggling on 256 eprom takes two power offs to change games. (oh yeah my eprom took 3 weeks to blank in the sun, hence late comment)
Ah, good to know that it also works with a 27C256. I'm going to pin your comment so maybe it helps someone else. Thanks for adding. :) And yeah, I tried erasing EPROMs in the sun, too. I gave in quickly and got one of those Chinese UV erasers (which do the trick in about 20min). ;)
Thank you for this guide, I just finished AV modding my JNR and now I am waiting for my eprom to erase before I burn 16 games and give it a try. Edit. It worked, So happy. :)
@@JanBeta yes I am, I also had a idea. What if you used the Ben Eater "Build an Arduino EEPROM programmer" to read bin files from a SD card and write to the EEprom. Add a simple screen and you could pick what to program and then play.
Hey. Going to try this mod but just a question, is it possible to mod the cart to run 8k games? Like an 8 in 1 with bigger games or is 4k games max? Cheers and thanks for a great vid!
Thanks! I did cover the window after filming. I had to reprogram the EPROM again because some of the games I put on there were NTSC versions and/or hacked ones. Now it's all good and I put a piece of electrical tape over the window. :)
There is another, much simpler mod for this cartridge, putting in DIP switches to select the games instead of power cycling... could you make a video on that?
Thanks! I edited the River Raid part out actually. I didn't check the files thoroughly before burning the EPROM and River Raid turned out to be a (badly) hacked version that was not much fun at all... In the meantime, I made another EPROM with all the right versions of the games and I love it. :)
So if you leave the PCB in tact can you just reset the console twice to get to the next 4k game instead of breaking the traces? I kinda wanna try this but I want to keep it reversible
I thought about that, too, but wanted to keep it as simple as possible for now. Definitely going to play around with that idea some time. You would ideally have to reset the cartridge and the console at the same time I think.
@@JanBeta thats super good news. Gonna buy another 32 in 1 and mod for 4k :) although first i need to understand why my atari 2600jr rev f is going crazy on colors with originsl 32 in 1 pal cartridge. Jan do you still have the original 32 in 1 cart intact? I need someone to confirm me the color of the golf game :D
Have you ever done a video on av modding your atari jr Jan? I bought one of those kits off ebay a long time ago but never got around to actually applying the mod.
I did the very simplest of composite mods a while back using just a resistor ladder and a small decoupling cap. Works pretty well so far especially on my CRT. I did a video on it, too (which is a bit confusing because I tried 2 mods one of which didn't work at all... The second half of the video is the mod I still use): ruclips.net/video/7ZlnHH8pPe8/видео.html
You really should invest in a spool of a Kynar insulated wire for wire-wraping. Also I was a little bit disappointed with a lack of commentary - what is the function of the tracks you're cutting, where do you connect them?
Yes, you're right about the wire. I have to get some proper magnet wire or something for fixing traces anyway. Sorry about not going into details. I wanted this to be an easy to follow DIY video. The details are in the forum I linked in the description really.
Thanks Jan, Excellent mod, works perfectly. Is there any easy way to also support (some) 8k ATARI games with this cardridge? I read that certain bank switching is required, also that the 8k image would have to be split by half and programmed in opposite oder etc. Would be interesting to see if we can do more with this cardridge ;-)).
Thanks! Glad it works for you. I think you could achieve 8k games using some extra logic. If I remember correctly, bank switching differs for different games so you need different logic for some. I think there's some discussion about that in the forum thread I "stole" this mod from (linked in the description).
Jan Beta Thanks Jan, Will definitely check. Initially I'd be mainly for a simple solution for the first std. 8k ATARI games. Would be great if you could post a "part 2" for an 8k mod for this particular cartridge on your nice channel :-))
I just got one of these cartridges for Ten Pounds, and I should have a suitable spare Eprom and socket lying around somewhare. I want to do this so I can burn games to play on my ATARI 2600+ as my SD card based cartridge dosn't work.
Enjoyed this project. It worked out well. I have a 2600 (all black "Vader" version) that someone gave me. I'd like to do the s-video mod on that one. Have you ever done the composite or s-video mods on a 2600?
Thanks! I did a composite mod on this 2600 a while back (also did a video but it's rather confusing because I tried two methods and one of them failed to work). I did the very simplest composite mod in the end that is just a resistor ladder adding up the different signals for composite (I think it's the same mod that Ben Heck usually does). It works pretty nicely for what it is. Don't know if an s-video mod would improve things even further. Would be interesting to try sometime.
Also interested in this question. I ordered a UV easier (UV lamp in a box) from china months ago but guess it didn't make it though customs. Would like to know what options are out there.
I'm using one of those Chinese EPROM eraser things from eBay. I did some modifications before I dared using it, though. Changed the power chord and some of the wiring inside (because it was VERY flimsy). I'm probably going to put in a fuse some time, too. Despite the lack of safety it works pretty well for me.
I have one of those, too (see my previous answer). They are pretty cheaply made (obviously) but work okay. I modded mine a bit to be at least a little safer.
I haven't tried erasing EPROM with it yet, but i have an olde Philips face tanning desk lamp. I bought it used 20 years ago for maybe 20 DM or 50 DM? It still works, didn't need tube replacement at all, which should tell you how much artificial tan my face is getting. I guess the LCD monitor backlight is all i need for that particular purpose. It sure seems punchy enough to erase some EPROMs though, it does cure LOCA glue and UV-reactive fingernail varnish. Apropos fingernail varnish, you know you can get a UV fingernail varnish curing device for cheap, and you likely don't need to ship it across the planet? Some of them sit just the right way to erase some EPROMs and are equipped with a bunch of like G23 9W UV CCFLs, you will find if you search for 36W version. Reports of reliability aren't too good, but that's what everyone uses in phone repair to cure screen glue.
I heard some people use those nail polish UV lamps (even battery ones) on UV EPROMS as well. Seems to work fine but take a bit more time (with my Chinese device, most EPROMS take around 20 mins to erase and you can do 6-7 at a time).
You should do a video series on xbox 360 modding and tell where to get hardware/software. the current ones online are not complete or they are outdated. mod for games, mod for xbmc/kodi.
xbox 360 found at local thrift store...I paid $30.00, No cords. I wanted to use cables from my first Xbox 360 but.. different socket. I will take pictures and email you. I looked a few months back into modding it, the tools needed are expensive if only doing one Xbox. Next problem is Xbox games are big, I have to look in bookmarks for FTP locations. I had plans to use a 1tb external drive for just 360 warez. I have 1/2 a dozen PS2 in storage, I wanted to mod one or two and download the full rom collection... I start looking for the games and realize downloading the full collection would take (I have to look again, but its TB drive space needed)... PS2 file sizes are massive and would take months to download on a good connection. This is another factor c64 and Atari 2600 are still popular, all games fit on one disk. Idea.. You download A-M, I will do N-Z and then do a local copy and mail it. cuts time in half. I will take pictures this weekend.
Clearly this thing is awesome. Ever made c64GS ones? I reckon people watching this will be thinking of that new atari console and homebrew potential. A question occurs to me: If you had somehow got yourself stuck in your man-cave like Tony Stark in the movie "Iron Man" so the only way out was to make an open source (HAMbrew) amiga Video Toaster (flipper board i.e. with Zorro on one edge connector and PCI on the other edge, so it also works in pcmcia via adaptors), would you secretly enjoy it?
Thanks! I made some bank switchable C64 cartridges. Only tried two banks with a physical switch as of yet though. Would be interesting to implement a similar counter circuit into that. And yes, I would enjoy it I guess. It's way above my skills but I'd enjoy learning how to do it, too. Am I strange? ;)
->Well that is kinda cool actually now you say that. The problem with the C64GS apparently is that a bunch of cartridge games did not work on it and they only worked on the c64-breadbin (as in the normal c64). So, it would be cool to see homebrew games come out for that like the atari ones in the metaljesusrocks videos where he says they have a chip in them to help beef up processing. -> Not sure about strange, but more like "ST Range (of atari computers)"... That was a pun btw. :D I wonder who could make a video toaster (which if you google them were, in the mid range about 150mhz with 64meg ram). I see the exxosuk and TerribleFire channels make accelerators (sometimes ASIC, others fpga) but I reckon they haven't the time, and Brek Martin also does great videos on CD32 FMV cartridge repair. Other pepole with that kind of HDL-and-FFT knowledge would be Ben Heck and Jeri Elsworth (in particular, Jeri what with her knowledge of Fourier Analysis, thereby she'd get her head around Discrete Cosine Transform, Cooley Tukey and Butterlfy Algorithm Bit-Twiddling. In her videos she has had video chats with very smart people. Alas no youtube activity of late. Just an idea: If you ever wished to put the word out in a video as a mere mention (only if you want to) that this open source Video Toaster (HAMbrew) should be a thing and thereby invented and made (and have CDROM games written for it, maybe requiring 8meg or more and 68030 or higher), it would maybe get picked up as an idea somehow by a person. My channel hasn't much on it, but if it helps, feel free to stay tuned to it.
That's quite a project. I'm going to mention it in one of the next Amiga videos if I remember to do so. Maybe someone has an idea on how to pull this off. Would be great to have something like a new video toaster and software using it made by the community. :)
The video toaster was available for a2000 and a3000 and a4000 in various models using zorro slots and pci slots. Am I right in thinking that "some" (maybe "all") of those models would boot with no 'need' for a hard drive (although a harddrive is for recording video to and using lightwave that came with it). Am I right in thinking one could boot from a standard workbench floppy (or toaster floopy), and then maybe just further floppies after that for the toaster? I just mean bare minumum (rather than the "ideal" usage via HDD). If that is true then surely that makes the toaster a very power graphics card for homebrew because it would not require any of these "new" Amiga OS operating systems and in fact could just use workbench 1.3 or 2.0 and actually even if it did need a HDD install, it would still be using old workbench 1.3 and workbench 2.0 etc. What's more, it works with the old 1.3 kickstart ROM. While it maybe be possible that newtek modified their own kickstart by aggreemnt with commodore (even though they released their software as FOSS when amiga went under), it still means the toaster is for "Real Amigas" (as purists say when complaining about the frankenstein a1200 machines that exist nowdays, kitted out in tower cases). See what I mean? If somebody could reverse engineer aToaster or rather make their own totlly compatible HAMbrew card that worked with the newtek FOSS, one could get a homebrew toaster going on a normal amiga so you can plug it in and then out again as if nothing had ever happened (so it is reversible) The aim of having a toaster is that people (rightly IMO) complain that one has to do terrible things to one's amiga (install pic slots and scary motherboard stuff) to get some graphics card (like a v00d003 or whatever) running and you need software like warp3D or similar. I know you and I would have the cnfidence to modify an amiga for Warp3D and so on, however, newcomers rightly do not want to. And they should not have to. maybe you can see where I am going with this. The purists are right and the Toster solves all of this (either by finding a real one from the old days or making one).. >:D
It should theoretically be possible to do just that. I don't know exactly about what drivers etc you would need to make use of the video toaster card but it would absolutely work from floppies, too. As far as I know, you could also build an adapter for the A500 and the other smaller Amigas. The architecture for the Zorro slots (these cards went in) is all there, they are just missing the connectors. It's an interesting idea I'd say. :)
You can use an electronically erasable EPROM and reprogram it with other games. There’s no way to replace individual games unfortunately, you always have to reprogram the whole thing.
Could you put a reset button on the cartridge or on the 2600...like we did with the c64? FIBER0PTIC/FBR, The HUMBLE Guys, Napalm and Worship. '''''''''''''
well, that's not really a Reset Switch like what we usually think of using that term. Because it's a fully programmable switch which does whatever it has been programmed to do, and usually it does not reset the system at all, just (re)starts a game. so it's more akin to a "START" button on later consoles, than to a "Reset Switch" like on the C64 or even later on IBM PCs (when they still had Reset Switches...).
It's one of my all time favorite games overall, I think. I played the C64 version extensively as a kid and was stunned when the VCS version looked and played nearly exactly the same. Awesome game, genius code by Carol Shaw! :)
Yeah, River Raid, all those afternoons and evenings... Now I regret selling my Atari 130XE all those years ago, will need to buy one to play it again ;)
+A Floyd Yeah, I saw them on sale for ridiculous prices. That’s one of the reasons I made this poor man‘s version. ;) Hope yours still works. Not much that can go wrong in these I guess.
There are a couple of different versions. The older ones had a bigger case with proper switches. There are different boards, too, but they are all fully compatible afaik.
Nice!
I used a 27C256 rather than 512 - so only room for x8 4k games..
However to toggle games (as 256 has no A15) ....cut two tracks (or you can just cut the original track and lift pin 27 which is address line 14 ) connect pin 27 to same underside patch wire.
Forum did say to connect vpp to +5 (pins 1 & 28) for using 256 eproms - but it's missing something as without the extra steps above, toggling on 256 eprom takes two power offs to change games.
(oh yeah my eprom took 3 weeks to blank in the sun, hence late comment)
Ah, good to know that it also works with a 27C256. I'm going to pin your comment so maybe it helps someone else. Thanks for adding. :)
And yeah, I tried erasing EPROMs in the sun, too. I gave in quickly and got one of those Chinese UV erasers (which do the trick in about 20min). ;)
I bought a 256 in 1 cartridge made by a fellow in Chicago. You use a set of DIP switches to pick your game.
Desoldered easily because it is the really old lead based solder! :)
Nice video! I got couple of days a similar cartridge and I am planning to use your video to make my "ultimate collection" of Atari 2600 games.
Great to see this worked out for you, remember some of those games from the early 80's!
Thanks! I enjoy the simplicity of the old games a lot. :)
Das ist mal echt cooles Zeugs... xD Geil gemacht!
Danke! War aber ja nicht meine Idee, habe nur aus dem Forum abgeschaut. ;)
@@JanBeta Besser gut abgeschaut als schlecht selber gemacht. ;P
Thank you for this guide, I just finished AV modding my JNR and now I am waiting for my eprom to erase before I burn 16 games and give it a try. Edit. It worked, So happy. :)
Awesome! Hope you have a lot of fun! :D
@@JanBeta yes I am, I also had a idea. What if you used the Ben Eater "Build an Arduino EEPROM programmer" to read bin files from a SD card and write to the EEprom. Add a simple screen and you could pick what to program and then play.
Hey.
Going to try this mod but just a question, is it possible to mod the cart to run 8k games? Like an 8 in 1 with bigger games or is 4k games max?
Cheers and thanks for a great vid!
Great Job !
Thats pretty cool.
FYI, you should put tape or a sticker over the EPROM window. Less chances of UV light zapping a byte or two.
Thanks! I did cover the window after filming. I had to reprogram the EPROM again because some of the games I put on there were NTSC versions and/or hacked ones. Now it's all good and I put a piece of electrical tape over the window. :)
That frogger song....I will hear that in my head for weeks now,,, good video Jan.
Thanks! Yeah, there are some retro game tunes that stay in your head forever.
Music from Pitfall 2 on Atari 2600...
There is another, much simpler mod for this cartridge, putting in DIP switches to select the games instead of power cycling...
could you make a video on that?
Oh, I might really do another mod video on that. There's also some other DIY multicarts I really want to try out some time.
Nicely done! Watched every second (aww, we didn't get to see River Raid, hehe). Looking forward to more tech-magic. :)
Thanks! I edited the River Raid part out actually. I didn't check the files thoroughly before burning the EPROM and River Raid turned out to be a (badly) hacked version that was not much fun at all... In the meantime, I made another EPROM with all the right versions of the games and I love it. :)
So if you leave the PCB in tact can you just reset the console twice to get to the next 4k game instead of breaking the traces? I kinda wanna try this but I want to keep it reversible
Great video as always. Have you thought about somehow applying the counter to a reset or maybe external button?
I thought about that, too, but wanted to keep it as simple as possible for now. Definitely going to play around with that idea some time. You would ideally have to reset the cartridge and the console at the same time I think.
Hi ....what is the reference of the eeprom circuit you used ?
Nice mod. What about explaining the wiring more?
Hey Jan! Awesome video! Is it possible to do this for 2K Games? I imagine you don't need to mod the cartidge itself right ?
You are correct, you can just put 16 2K games on an EPROM without any modifications to the cartridge.
@@JanBeta thats super good news. Gonna buy another 32 in 1 and mod for 4k :) although first i need to understand why my atari 2600jr rev f is going crazy on colors with originsl 32 in 1 pal cartridge. Jan do you still have the original 32 in 1 cart intact? I need someone to confirm me the color of the golf game :D
Wäre es auch möglich, die Cartridge so zu modifizieren, dass man 2 der neueren Homebrew-Games mit 32K in das EPROM brennen könnte???
Have you ever done a video on av modding your atari jr Jan? I bought one of those kits off ebay a long time ago but never got around to actually applying the mod.
I did the very simplest of composite mods a while back using just a resistor ladder and a small decoupling cap. Works pretty well so far especially on my CRT. I did a video on it, too (which is a bit confusing because I tried 2 mods one of which didn't work at all... The second half of the video is the mod I still use): ruclips.net/video/7ZlnHH8pPe8/видео.html
You really should invest in a spool of a Kynar insulated wire for wire-wraping. Also I was a little bit disappointed with a lack of commentary - what is the function of the tracks you're cutting, where do you connect them?
Yes, you're right about the wire. I have to get some proper magnet wire or something for fixing traces anyway. Sorry about not going into details. I wanted this to be an easy to follow DIY video. The details are in the forum I linked in the description really.
Cutting with a knife....is that the best way to break it? I remember my friends using an acid or some liquid to make a clean break.
I think you could dissolve the copper trace with some chemicals but find the knife method totally sufficient (and probably healthier).
Thanks Jan, Excellent mod, works perfectly. Is there any easy way to also support (some) 8k ATARI games with this cardridge? I read that certain bank switching is required, also that the 8k image would have to be split by half and programmed in opposite oder etc. Would be interesting to see if we can do more with this cardridge ;-)).
Thanks! Glad it works for you. I think you could achieve 8k games using some extra logic. If I remember correctly, bank switching differs for different games so you need different logic for some. I think there's some discussion about that in the forum thread I "stole" this mod from (linked in the description).
Jan Beta Thanks Jan, Will definitely check. Initially I'd be mainly for a simple solution for the first std. 8k ATARI games. Would be great if you could post a "part 2" for an 8k mod for this particular cartridge on your nice channel :-))
What would be the price of an older Atari console similar looking 80's I think.
enjoyed a lot, THX
Oh, glad you liked it! :)
just a suggestion, us canadians would like affiliate links too. Great vid man.
I just got one of these cartridges for Ten Pounds, and I should have a suitable spare Eprom and socket lying around somewhare.
I want to do this so I can burn games to play on my ATARI 2600+ as my SD card based cartridge dosn't work.
Lol that's pretty awesome little cart, I always love the quest for more data
It's like the poor man's Atari 2600 multi cart. ;)
Is this game available today?? I had in 1988.
Enjoyed this project. It worked out well. I have a 2600 (all black "Vader" version) that someone gave me. I'd like to do the s-video mod on that one. Have you ever done the composite or s-video mods on a 2600?
Thanks! I did a composite mod on this 2600 a while back (also did a video but it's rather confusing because I tried two methods and one of them failed to work). I did the very simplest composite mod in the end that is just a resistor ladder adding up the different signals for composite (I think it's the same mod that Ben Heck usually does). It works pretty nicely for what it is. Don't know if an s-video mod would improve things even further. Would be interesting to try sometime.
Hi Jan, with what do you clear the rom's. I am still looking for a good UV eraser. Maybe a DIY UV eraser.
Also interested in this question.
I ordered a UV easier (UV lamp in a box) from china months ago but guess it didn't make it though customs.
Would like to know what options are out there.
I'm using one of those Chinese EPROM eraser things from eBay. I did some modifications before I dared using it, though. Changed the power chord and some of the wiring inside (because it was VERY flimsy). I'm probably going to put in a fuse some time, too. Despite the lack of safety it works pretty well for me.
I have one of those, too (see my previous answer). They are pretty cheaply made (obviously) but work okay. I modded mine a bit to be at least a little safer.
I haven't tried erasing EPROM with it yet, but i have an olde Philips face tanning desk lamp. I bought it used 20 years ago for maybe 20 DM or 50 DM? It still works, didn't need tube replacement at all, which should tell you how much artificial tan my face is getting. I guess the LCD monitor backlight is all i need for that particular purpose. It sure seems punchy enough to erase some EPROMs though, it does cure LOCA glue and UV-reactive fingernail varnish.
Apropos fingernail varnish, you know you can get a UV fingernail varnish curing device for cheap, and you likely don't need to ship it across the planet? Some of them sit just the right way to erase some EPROMs and are equipped with a bunch of like G23 9W UV CCFLs, you will find if you search for 36W version. Reports of reliability aren't too good, but that's what everyone uses in phone repair to cure screen glue.
I heard some people use those nail polish UV lamps (even battery ones) on UV EPROMS as well. Seems to work fine but take a bit more time (with my Chinese device, most EPROMS take around 20 mins to erase and you can do 6-7 at a time).
You should do a video series on xbox 360 modding and tell where to get hardware/software. the current ones online are not complete or they are outdated.
mod for games, mod for xbmc/kodi.
Oh, I wish I had an Xbox 360 to mod. ;)
xbox 360 found at local thrift store...I paid $30.00, No cords. I wanted to use cables from my first Xbox 360 but.. different socket. I will take pictures and email you. I looked a few months back into modding it, the tools needed are expensive if only doing one Xbox. Next problem is Xbox games are big, I have to look in bookmarks for FTP locations. I had plans to use a 1tb external drive for just 360 warez.
I have 1/2 a dozen PS2 in storage, I wanted to mod one or two and download the full rom collection... I start looking for the games and realize downloading the full collection would take (I have to look again, but its TB drive space needed)... PS2 file sizes are massive and would take months to download on a good connection.
This is another factor c64 and Atari 2600 are still popular, all games fit on one disk.
Idea.. You download A-M, I will do N-Z and then do a local copy and mail it. cuts time in half.
I will take pictures this weekend.
I forget where I posted about setting up PC Board BBS. I pulled software from storage last week, manuals and original disks still mint condition.
18:00 you can use home to get to the beginning of the line I think... I think...
Clearly this thing is awesome. Ever made c64GS ones? I reckon people watching this will be thinking of that new atari console and homebrew potential. A question occurs to me: If you had somehow got yourself stuck in your man-cave like Tony Stark in the movie "Iron Man" so the only way out was to make an open source (HAMbrew) amiga Video Toaster (flipper board i.e. with Zorro on one edge connector and PCI on the other edge, so it also works in pcmcia via adaptors), would you secretly enjoy it?
Thanks! I made some bank switchable C64 cartridges. Only tried two banks with a physical switch as of yet though. Would be interesting to implement a similar counter circuit into that.
And yes, I would enjoy it I guess. It's way above my skills but I'd enjoy learning how to do it, too. Am I strange? ;)
->Well that is kinda cool actually now you say that. The problem with the C64GS apparently is that a bunch of cartridge games did not work on it and they only worked on the c64-breadbin (as in the normal c64). So, it would be cool to see homebrew games come out for that like the atari ones in the metaljesusrocks videos where he says they have a chip in them to help beef up processing.
-> Not sure about strange, but more like "ST Range (of atari computers)"... That was a pun btw. :D
I wonder who could make a video toaster (which if you google them were, in the mid range about 150mhz with 64meg ram). I see the exxosuk and TerribleFire channels make accelerators (sometimes ASIC, others fpga) but I reckon they haven't the time, and Brek Martin also does great videos on CD32 FMV cartridge repair. Other pepole with that kind of HDL-and-FFT knowledge would be Ben Heck and Jeri Elsworth (in particular, Jeri what with her knowledge of Fourier Analysis, thereby she'd get her head around Discrete Cosine Transform, Cooley Tukey and Butterlfy Algorithm Bit-Twiddling. In her videos she has had video chats with very smart people. Alas no youtube activity of late. Just an idea: If you ever wished to put the word out in a video as a mere mention (only if you want to) that this open source Video Toaster (HAMbrew) should be a thing and thereby invented and made (and have CDROM games written for it, maybe requiring 8meg or more and 68030 or higher), it would maybe get picked up as an idea somehow by a person. My channel hasn't much on it, but if it helps, feel free to stay tuned to it.
That's quite a project. I'm going to mention it in one of the next Amiga videos if I remember to do so. Maybe someone has an idea on how to pull this off. Would be great to have something like a new video toaster and software using it made by the community. :)
The video toaster was available for a2000 and a3000 and a4000 in various models using zorro slots and pci slots. Am I right in thinking that "some" (maybe "all") of those models would boot with no 'need' for a hard drive (although a harddrive is for recording video to and using lightwave that came with it). Am I right in thinking one could boot from a standard workbench floppy (or toaster floopy), and then maybe just further floppies after that for the toaster? I just mean bare minumum (rather than the "ideal" usage via HDD).
If that is true then surely that makes the toaster a very power graphics card for homebrew because it would not require any of these "new" Amiga OS operating systems and in fact could just use workbench 1.3 or 2.0 and actually even if it did need a HDD install, it would still be using old workbench 1.3 and workbench 2.0 etc. What's more, it works with the old 1.3 kickstart ROM. While it maybe be possible that newtek modified their own kickstart by aggreemnt with commodore (even though they released their software as FOSS when amiga went under), it still means the toaster is for "Real Amigas" (as purists say when complaining about the frankenstein a1200 machines that exist nowdays, kitted out in tower cases). See what I mean? If somebody could reverse engineer aToaster or rather make their own totlly compatible HAMbrew card that worked with the newtek FOSS, one could get a homebrew toaster going on a normal amiga so you can plug it in and then out again as if nothing had ever happened (so it is reversible)
The aim of having a toaster is that people (rightly IMO) complain that one has to do terrible things to one's amiga (install pic slots and scary motherboard stuff) to get some graphics card (like a v00d003 or whatever) running and you need software like warp3D or similar. I know you and I would have the cnfidence to modify an amiga for Warp3D and so on, however, newcomers rightly do not want to. And they should not have to. maybe you can see where I am going with this. The purists are right and the Toster solves all of this (either by finding a real one from the old days or making one)..
>:D
It should theoretically be possible to do just that. I don't know exactly about what drivers etc you would need to make use of the video toaster card but it would absolutely work from floppies, too.
As far as I know, you could also build an adapter for the A500 and the other smaller Amigas. The architecture for the Zorro slots (these cards went in) is all there, they are just missing the connectors.
It's an interesting idea I'd say. :)
Can you delete the games that you stored with the same programming tool and add other games?
You can use an electronically erasable EPROM and reprogram it with other games. There’s no way to replace individual games unfortunately, you always have to reprogram the whole thing.
@@JanBeta
possible to use the C.I reference M27C512 ??
Could you put a reset button on the cartridge or on the 2600...like we did with the c64?
FIBER0PTIC/FBR, The HUMBLE Guys, Napalm and Worship.
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The 2600 actually has a built-in reset switch already. :)
well, that's not really a Reset Switch like what we usually think of using that term.
Because it's a fully programmable switch which does whatever it has been programmed to do, and usually it does not reset the system at all, just (re)starts a game.
so it's more akin to a "START" button on later consoles, than to a "Reset Switch" like on the C64 or even later on IBM PCs (when they still had Reset Switches...).
This is very informative and entertaining.
Thanks. :)
Thumbs up Jan for it also being an Atari video!!!!!;)
Thanks! I love Atari stuff, too. Hope to do more in the future. :)
cant you add 130 games like Atari flashback has
Would you want to switch your console on and off up to 130 times to get to the game you want to play?
I'm sorry but that cartridge would look so much cooler with 4 big toggle switches coming out the top to select the 16 games.
16:00 RIVER RAHOO! That's what Adam Weekes and I called it. :)
River Raid is my favorite Atari game as well :)
It's one of my all time favorite games overall, I think. I played the C64 version extensively as a kid and was stunned when the VCS version looked and played nearly exactly the same. Awesome game, genius code by Carol Shaw! :)
Yeah, River Raid, all those afternoons and evenings... Now I regret selling my Atari 130XE all those years ago, will need to buy one to play it again ;)
Haha, I know that feeling. It all started with getting a C64 again for me. Now I'm hoarding old systems... ;)
Years ago, I bought a 256 games in one cartridge. I hope it still works.
+A Floyd Yeah, I saw them on sale for ridiculous prices. That’s one of the reasons I made this poor man‘s version. ;) Hope yours still works. Not much that can go wrong in these I guess.
I want to do a composite mod to the Atari Jr I found! The RF is soooooooo noisy!
you use Windows XP!?
I run it in VirtualBox on OSX. I rarely use it but the EPROM programmer's software is Windows only.
Niiiice job!
Thanks! :)
I think I had an older version of this console.
There are a couple of different versions. The older ones had a bigger case with proper switches. There are different boards, too, but they are all fully compatible afaik.
Another nice video, thx! ;o)
Glad you like it. Thank you! :)
megamania is one of the best.
Why even bother writing Pac-Mac onto there?
I kind of still like this version even if it's crappy.
Jan Beta I suppose that's alright c: I too have a strange love for bad games
river raid !
DOOOOOOOOOD............