France, and the rest of Europe have lost their minds when it comes to ebikes. And unfortunately their actions are setting ebikes back by years. In the long run what this means is that all the euro ebike motor producers are going to lose out to other companies like Bafang that don't feel the need to follow laws that don't make sense. The people who support these nonsense laws are the same people that want cameras following your every move everywhere you go. The same people who think the government should have complete control over your life. Its pathetic.
You forgot to mention the upto 1 year in prison aswell as €30k (2 years if your the retailer who sold it). So worst case is you get a year in prison, lose your job, and when you finally get out you need to find 30k! Not worth it.
E-Bikes saved my life. 1,5 years ago i was smoking and drinking heavily on a daily basis (working at a club/bar didn´t help). Started Hiking at the start of ´19, did around 2500km till october, while still smoking daily, but reduced drinking already. In October i bought a trekking Ebike (Giant Explore+), put 2200km in 3 months on it and decided to stop smoking completely and reduce drinking to one drink a week at the start of ´20. One month ago i bought a real EMTB (Canyon Spectral:ON 7.0) and already put 800km on it, looking forward for better weather, so more trails open. Never felt better in many aspects of my life, I´m more fit an organized, have more energy and motivation in general. Only downside is, I´m spending way too much money on tools, parts and accesoirs now; but no euro feels wasted at all.
Good on ya dude I to jacked in the smokes in 2005 and never looked back the mtb'in is great for keeping you fit and that's all that matters, fresh air and great outdoors and give yourself a rewarding pint or three now n then.
Better to spend the money on tools and bikes than drink and cigarettes. I'm very similar to you but for me it was just an ordinary full sus trail bike that got me riding and it was fast food that was my issue. I went from 80kg to 113kg in 4 years. Slowly going back down now due to mountain biking and living 15 min away from bike park wales.
@@Ellis01234567890 you lucky geezer being so close to bike park, were booked in TT week but with the Corona shite I really don't, here's looking forward to better times!
That's what I did, spending £150 a month on fuel + insurance + maintenance on a car for a 14 mile commute, or ditch the lot for £50 a month on a emtb and cycle instead. Did hessitate at first, but after just 1 week, I was hooked, now not even a storm will stop me from cycling to work.
got 2 mates that are both police officers and MTB riders...neither can tell what is derestricted and what isn't... they couldn't work out that mine was...they both also went on to say they simply dont care or dont have the manpower to inforce any rules in regards to this stupid idea...nobody cares and the police dont care....jeez on a sunday my mate is the only policeman in a 50 mile radius ..do you honestly think hes gonna jump in his car and chase you for having a speedbox 2 or a badass dongle...get a grip
I've said it time and time again if you dont ride like a t**t and you keep your wits about you and keep an eye on traffic and if police am about you'll have no problems as they won't give you a second look.
my point 2 in the u.s...cops don't care about zippy e-bikes Iv got 1400 miles on mine and have never been stopped and iv run 100's of stop signs and use one ways as a short cut, all normal riding in a big city.
Good point. How many people have been stopped for riding an e-scooter in a public area? The police aren't interested. Why make more rules when the existing ones aren't being enforced?
I use my emtbs for my commute. The first one is a kit that I installed on my mtb, that's paid for itself now. My second one that I've just purchased is a 2019 Voodoo Zobop with the Shimano Steps motor. I've literally driven to work less than ten times in the last 18 months & only because I had to go somewhere afterwards. Rain, snow, wind & cold doesn't deter me. Like it's been said already, the money you save on fuel pays for your new bike. It's a no brainer 😎😎👍👍
All the Ebike manufactures should be throwing wads of cash at Rob Warner from now on to sponsor their models. His natural exuberance about the joy of riding again is infectious. Can’t believe he’s only just started riding them tbh, what took you so long mate?
Agree totally with rob, I've never rode an electric bike to 3 weeks ago and demo'd the SL levo and loved it instantly and last week road the full fat turbo levo and it blew my mind. Normal mtb time on my circuit in the iom is; 58mins to 1hr 6mins weather depending. SL- time 46 mins Turbo levo- 36 mins, and could easily have done twice the range I was well impressed, just got to save up now.
Here in France they have E-scooters doing 50km/h in town.. No one gets stopped... Now they are a danger to others and themselves... So don't worry about any unenforceable law... Do treat elderly, children etc with respect and keep the speed down when passing.. Common sense should prevail over crazy laws... 40km/h should be the sweet spot.. With restrictions on shared paths where pedestrians walk..
The power cut-off at 25km/h is laughable. Even on a non-e-bike I can easily get up to 30 kmh/or more. The old mopeds were limited to 30 and there was no problem. It should be possible to have a system that starts reducing power by 10% for every 2km/h over 25. So at 40 km/h one would still have approx. 20% assistance, zero at 45.
I highly doubt that under the current deal that this is anything that happens in the next five years. Product standards are still basically the same between EU and UK and they would have to diverge quite a bit before increasing the legal limit seems feasible.
But at least that's a realistic hope you've got there, I've seen so many British people claim Brexit would allow the UK to fullfil their personal wishes no matter how unlikely or even impossible. But given the enormous amount of straight up lies that was told by the campaign that is to be expected.
But I do agree, the 25 kmph limit is nonsense, something faster would be MUCH better, especially for replacing a car (as it has for me). And an S-Pedelec has the huge issue of not being allowed to ride it on cycling lanes or anywhere else basically that isn't a road also used by cars.
I just started watching your videos and I'm addicted. I just bought t my 1st E Bike a GIant Reign E Pro 2. I went from a 1999 FSR XC to this bike skipping a whole generation of mt bikes. Lov lov lov it!. My 60+ yr old legs are back to feeling like they did when I was in my 30's and the bikes ride gives me incredible confidence. My backyard rides are in Truckee Ca (Lake Tahoe) where the travel and suspension let me play really hard and ride 30+ mile rides regularly. I'll be commenting often and sending you amazing pics of my bike and rides as I go.
We need to petition to get the eBike laws to the same standards that America have . If you can ride downhill faster than 16 mile an hour why restrict it to that it's an EU law we won't be in there much longer
Doddy, in regards to your question about cold weather winter and e-bikes...I live in Southern Ontario, travel around the Greater Toronto Area (GTA) where this winter (december 2019-march 2020) my Specialized S-Works Turbo Levo 2019 endured more than 1500kms while the coldest ride was below -40C at times because of wind factor (30 to 60 kph). Battery did suffer a bit but 2-3 feet of snow was a big factor plus using more "trail" and "turbo" assistance was another, compared to nice weather (over 5C in canadian terms) a typical daily run of 25kms had a usage of no more than 15-20% while in winter it was a 20-35% for me and my 50year old body+ 95kg dead weight. Battery in "Eco" mode does save a lot like in spring or summer and is almost the same except on long uphills (i blame the ice/snow/wind factor altogether). Expect a 3 day usage on a full battery in winter with proper management or 70+kms instead of a nice 5-6 days of good weather riding for about 100+kms. I personally spend more time cleaning the bike of snow than riding it hehehe....cheers
Jay Bonner it’s not about avg speed, but maximum assist speed. The motor drag of an ebike prevents easily going over the 25kph under your own leg power..
@Jay Bonner I got 2 derestricted ebike one goes 60kmh and one goes 45kmh I use to have a road bike many years ago but prefer offroad now I have gotten 105km downhill on a road bike ebikes should be unlimited and speed limit should be set by type of trail or road surface conditions.ill accept limited power ebike when cars are limited to 50km
I really don't understand this stuff about de-restricted e-bikes, I ride a road bike, and regularly average 20/25mph, average, an alot of the time I'm obviously travelling way above 15mph. So really, what's the difference? 🤷🏼♂️
Rob warner endorsing emtb's pretty much encapsulates everyones first experience and enjoyment riding an e mountain bike all these haters done know what they're missing!
15mph is just not fast enough for commuting on the road 25-30 mph maybe then its a valid alternative to a car. If it 15mph I will stick with my 2.3l turbo car thanks sod the planet.
Have you guys heard of the bike race "Tour Divide." 2,745 mile Canada to Mexico race through the Rocky Mountains? It's ultra-distance, self-supported, off-pavement, bikepacking race.
16:35 this is totally in Jordan mate, not the whole country is a desert, north from Amman the capital it is all green with small forests of pine trees, this location called "Wasfi Al Tal Forest" you can look it up on the inter-web. Doddy, you've been quite harsh on my photo I guess, I would say it is totally SUPER NICE, plus how many submission from Jordan you guys get.. let me guess, probably it is only me :p keep it up guys, much love and support from Jordan
@@stevejones7956 hahaha nothing for mate, I just find it interesting sometimes the perception about our region. And it goes without saying you guys are most welcome anytime 🙏🙏
The French law is totally moronic. Maybe they need to spend all their time chasing regular bicycles as they travel downhill at 40+mph with speed generated by gravity. I know; fine the gravitational force! Gravity is the culprit! Stupid gravity! :)
let's see.... french government: tries to suppress the yellow vest protest to the high gas prices that have been going on for over a year and wreaking havoc. french population: tries to escape gas taxes by using bicycles and thus quell the yellow vest protests. french government: tries to make e-biking too slow, forcing people to need to back to fuel vehicles and reinforce the yellow vest protests. what a hellhole.
Laws and legislation to control the people. How does some government official sitting behind a desk have any clue about the control a rider has of an Ebike while the rider is riding the bike , madness . Maybe some smart cookie will offer ebike derestriction certification and insurance options.
I'm surprised they haven't made a separate category of transport and made you take a test to ride them de-restricted. I'd be up for that all you'd need is a quick road safety test like a cbt but geared towards riding a bike. Then you can get insured and you wouldn't really need a MOT of such as not much to test unless they make it compulsory for you to have lights ect
@@MegaNayton You dont trust yourself ? would a piece of paper make you more safe ? I personally don't feel we need another government organisation payed for at the cost to the private sector. I think people are more than capable measuring risk.
@@MrDaymien1 It's not that I don't trust my self it's the fact I can't ride a bike legally on the road that's not limited to 250w and 15mph. If I had an accident I'd have the book thrown at me and it may not even be my fault could be a careless driver pulling out on me that could land me in hospital and in hot water with the law. By having a test it would make my bike legal and allow me to get insurance for when such things happen
I have a Radrover (US import) bought & ordered before Apr 2015 when the current legislation came in. The bike has 500 watt motor with a twist grip (as well as PAS) and is tuneable to 40 KPH, all of which is now not legal - but was then! Legislation for cars & motorcycles change all the time though the older non compliant vehicles remain legal to use so hence should my old Rad still be OK? Thoughts please?
15.5 mph is for mobility scooters .... even a grandad bike from 1900 will make to 28-30 .... and down hill 40-50 mph if steep enough .... This is going to end like CB ... MILLIONS USING 1k plus motors .... Government forced to introduce a tax and liability insurance possible road worthy test ! I’ve no problem with very high power e bikes that leave me standing , but agree keep it to the legal road speed , in the 6-7 years I’ve been at it I’ve only had a go of 1 fully restricted e bike , it was awful cheap n nasty just the kind of bike that will fall apart n cause an accident... now I’ve crept over the big 50 the most important thing for me is is a comfy saddle sprung Brooks rule !
Honet question with no ill intent. I've always though in the U.K. that The government was more responsive to what people want and/or you were much better than the U.S. at democracy and turn what people want into law. So why all the ridiculous restrictions on e-bikes. Like 250W motors maximum for instance. That won't get you up even a moderate incline withut pedalling. And since unhealthiness is one of the main reasons use e-bikes . . .
That's just what E-bikes are and we're fine with it! You should have to pedal to get up a climb, otherwise it's just electric motor biking, we're still mountain bikers at heart, so we don't mind the restriction at all. It's not unhealthiness that drives us to ride these either, it's the love of every bike ride being a massive one, with a big grin all the way, whilst still being allowed to ride trails for mountain bikes.
There isn’t a cop in America that would even know the different levels of ebike… let alone care enough… to give a citation. Lol. Well maybe in San Francisco.
The chemistry between this pair is fucking hilarious! Steve Jones constantly butts in and ignores pretty much everything the other bloke says. Pretty strained relationship from where I'm sat, I don't think Doddy likes him one bit......
Completely disproportionate French response to a non problem Just come back from the speed camera riddled Increasingly miserable state of France... no wonder the yellow vests are burning the place down
Guys, it really is getting kind of old. We get it, Specialized is your major sponsor and you are pushing the Levo whenever you can. But there are plenty of ebikes from other nice brands out there that offer significantly better value at lower price points and when it comes to up-hill trails or longer tours, many Cubes or Canyons leave the Levo in the dust. Pretending that great ebikes start at the price of a Levo is not even funny.
@Electric Mountain Bike Network I know, I know, obviously not climbing but for when you most need to go fast in flat long sections the 25 km/h limit make the assistance a bit useless.
@embn How are all these viewers bikes so spotlessly clean out on the trail ? I come back covered in mud and have to pull chunks off my Emtb before I clean it. Can I send in a picture with it caked in mud and sheep $¥!t ?
I'm French. Our country is a land of many restrictions, which is a shame but the other day I was coming out of my alley, didn't see the bike coming in the road mirror and he nearly smashed into the car, he was flying. These bikes need lights and stuff to be seen but regulations will surely make things better still. 25 km/h is far enough for a bike. It has to remain a bicycle.
You forgot to mention the upto 1 year in prison aswell as €30k (2 years if your the retailer who sold it). So worst case is you get a year in prison, lose your job, and when you finally get out you need to find 30k! Not worth it.
Very addictive this channel, keep it up guys. Cheers. Re illegal e bikes, it has to be stopped because as usual the idiots ruin it for everyone else, riding at 30 & 40mph on pavements, it's bad enough at 25kmh hit someone at 40 mph someone's going to be killed, there's also lots of cases of undesirables drug running/ thieves operating on illegal e- bikes these idiots are going to ruin the reputation of all e-bikers if it's not stopped, just saying. High speed E-bikes should be allowed on the roads providing they have mot's, insurance, number plates, licences and protective gear etc and they should have to take a test too.
What do you think about the French authorities possibly imposing fines of up to 30,000 Euros for riding a derestricted E-bike? Let us know 👇
I think, about time and hopefully they clamp down on them here In the UK and everywhere else.
Good shout, lets not fuck this ebike thing up
Outrageous over reaction. But then again, who's gonna bother checking unless you're riding like a twat to start with?
France, and the rest of Europe have lost their minds when it comes to ebikes. And unfortunately their actions are setting ebikes back by years. In the long run what this means is that all the euro ebike motor producers are going to lose out to other companies like Bafang that don't feel the need to follow laws that don't make sense. The people who support these nonsense laws are the same people that want cameras following your every move everywhere you go. The same people who think the government should have complete control over your life. Its pathetic.
You forgot to mention the upto 1 year in prison aswell as €30k (2 years if your the retailer who sold it). So worst case is you get a year in prison, lose your job, and when you finally get out you need to find 30k! Not worth it.
E-Bikes saved my life. 1,5 years ago i was smoking and drinking heavily on a daily basis (working at a club/bar didn´t help).
Started Hiking at the start of ´19, did around 2500km till october, while still smoking daily, but reduced drinking already.
In October i bought a trekking Ebike (Giant Explore+), put 2200km in 3 months on it and decided to stop smoking completely and reduce drinking to one drink a week at the start of ´20.
One month ago i bought a real EMTB (Canyon Spectral:ON 7.0) and already put 800km on it, looking forward for better weather, so more trails open.
Never felt better in many aspects of my life, I´m more fit an organized, have more energy and motivation in general.
Only downside is, I´m spending way too much money on tools, parts and accesoirs now; but no euro feels wasted at all.
FamousKramus if you think about it the cost on tools may be less than smokes and alcohol
Good on ya dude I to jacked in the smokes in 2005 and never looked back the mtb'in is great for keeping you fit and that's all that matters, fresh air and great outdoors and give yourself a rewarding pint or three now n then.
Better to spend the money on tools and bikes than drink and cigarettes. I'm very similar to you but for me it was just an ordinary full sus trail bike that got me riding and it was fast food that was my issue. I went from 80kg to 113kg in 4 years. Slowly going back down now due to mountain biking and living 15 min away from bike park wales.
@@Ellis01234567890 you lucky geezer being so close to bike park, were booked in TT week but with the Corona shite I really don't, here's looking forward to better times!
Just dont get hit by a bus on it 🤔🤣
That's what I did, spending £150 a month on fuel + insurance + maintenance on a car for a 14 mile commute, or ditch the lot for £50 a month on a emtb and cycle instead. Did hessitate at first, but after just 1 week, I was hooked, now not even a storm will stop me from cycling to work.
got 2 mates that are both police officers and MTB riders...neither can tell what is derestricted and what isn't... they couldn't work out that mine was...they both also went on to say they simply dont care or dont have the manpower to inforce any rules in regards to this stupid idea...nobody cares and the police dont care....jeez on a sunday my mate is the only policeman in a 50 mile radius ..do you honestly think hes gonna jump in his car and chase you for having a speedbox 2 or a badass dongle...get a grip
I've said it time and time again if you dont ride like a t**t and you keep your wits about you and keep an eye on traffic and if police am about you'll have no problems as they won't give you a second look.
I dont even regard it as an issue, your biggest problem is claiming warranty if it should arise. And yeah, don’t ride like a twat
my point 2 in the u.s...cops don't care about zippy e-bikes Iv got 1400 miles on mine and have never been stopped and iv run 100's of stop signs and use one ways as a short cut, all normal riding in a big city.
Good point. How many people have been stopped for riding an e-scooter in a public area? The police aren't interested. Why make more rules when the existing ones aren't being enforced?
its all about common sense...
I use my emtbs for my commute. The first one is a kit that I installed on my mtb, that's paid for itself now. My second one that I've just purchased is a 2019 Voodoo Zobop with the Shimano Steps motor. I've literally driven to work less than ten times in the last 18 months & only because I had to go somewhere afterwards. Rain, snow, wind & cold doesn't deter me. Like it's been said already, the money you save on fuel pays for your new bike. It's a no brainer 😎😎👍👍
All the Ebike manufactures should be throwing wads of cash at Rob Warner from now on to sponsor their models. His natural exuberance about the joy of riding again is infectious. Can’t believe he’s only just started riding them tbh, what took you so long mate?
Agree totally with rob, I've never rode an electric bike to 3 weeks ago and demo'd the SL levo and loved it instantly and last week road the full fat turbo levo and it blew my mind. Normal mtb time on my circuit in the iom is; 58mins to 1hr 6mins weather depending.
SL- time 46 mins
Turbo levo- 36 mins, and could easily have done twice the range I was well impressed, just got to save up now.
Here in France they have E-scooters doing 50km/h in town.. No one gets stopped... Now they are a danger to others and themselves...
So don't worry about any unenforceable law...
Do treat elderly, children etc with respect and keep the speed down when passing.. Common sense should prevail over crazy laws... 40km/h should be the sweet spot.. With restrictions on shared paths where pedestrians walk..
The power cut-off at 25km/h is laughable. Even on a non-e-bike I can easily get up to 30 kmh/or more. The old mopeds were limited to 30 and there was no problem. It should be possible to have a system that starts reducing power by 10% for every 2km/h over 25. So at 40 km/h one would still have approx. 20% assistance, zero at 45.
Someone straighten the fake log burner up my eye just keeps focusing on it 🤣😝
Rob Warner is a national treasure, just says it as it is and funny with it. Top chap!
in france they get serious about collecting those fuel taxes, dont want you cheating them out of their money.
Hopefully, Brexit may bring the speed limit on Ebikes in the UK in line with the US. That has to be better than the French model
Haha more lightly to lower it mate its the uk 🤪😂😂
I highly doubt that under the current deal that this is anything that happens in the next five years.
Product standards are still basically the same between EU and UK and they would have to diverge quite a bit before increasing the legal limit seems feasible.
But at least that's a realistic hope you've got there, I've seen so many British people claim Brexit would allow the UK to fullfil their personal wishes no matter how unlikely or even impossible. But given the enormous amount of straight up lies that was told by the campaign that is to be expected.
But I do agree, the 25 kmph limit is nonsense, something faster would be MUCH better, especially for replacing a car (as it has for me).
And an S-Pedelec has the huge issue of not being allowed to ride it on cycling lanes or anywhere else basically that isn't a road also used by cars.
You know it's been a good ride when you come off the trails looking like you've shat yourself 🤙
I just started watching your videos and I'm addicted. I just bought t my 1st E Bike a GIant Reign E Pro 2. I went from a 1999 FSR XC to this bike skipping a whole generation of mt bikes. Lov lov lov it!. My 60+ yr old legs are back to feeling like they did when I was in my 30's and the bikes ride gives me incredible confidence. My backyard rides are in Truckee Ca (Lake Tahoe) where the travel and suspension let me play really hard and ride 30+ mile rides regularly. I'll be commenting often and sending you amazing pics of my bike and rides as I go.
We need to petition to get the eBike laws to the same standards that America have . If you can ride downhill faster than 16 mile an hour why restrict it to that it's an EU law we won't be in there much longer
Nice to see people having fun, getting fit and saving money commuting by e-Bike.
Doddy, in regards to your question about cold weather winter and e-bikes...I live in Southern Ontario, travel around the Greater Toronto Area (GTA) where this winter (december 2019-march 2020) my Specialized S-Works Turbo Levo 2019 endured more than 1500kms while the coldest ride was below -40C at times because of wind factor (30 to 60 kph). Battery did suffer a bit but 2-3 feet of snow was a big factor plus using more "trail" and "turbo" assistance was another, compared to nice weather (over 5C in canadian terms) a typical daily run of 25kms had a usage of no more than 15-20% while in winter it was a 20-35% for me and my 50year old body+ 95kg dead weight. Battery in "Eco" mode does save a lot like in spring or summer and is almost the same except on long uphills (i blame the ice/snow/wind factor altogether). Expect a 3 day usage on a full battery in winter with proper management or 70+kms instead of a nice 5-6 days of good weather riding for about 100+kms. I personally spend more time cleaning the bike of snow than riding it hehehe....cheers
Could listen to Rob Warner all day... 'Super Nice EMBN!!!!'
Need to move speed limit to at least 35km you can do that on a road bike easy
Jay Bonner it’s not about avg speed, but maximum assist speed. The motor drag of an ebike prevents easily going over the 25kph under your own leg power..
@Jay Bonner I got 2 derestricted ebike one goes 60kmh and one goes 45kmh I use to have a road bike many years ago but prefer offroad now I have gotten 105km downhill on a road bike ebikes should be unlimited and speed limit should be set by type of trail or road surface conditions.ill accept limited power ebike when cars are limited to 50km
I really don't understand this stuff about de-restricted e-bikes, I ride a road bike, and regularly average 20/25mph, average, an alot of the time I'm obviously travelling way above 15mph. So really, what's the difference? 🤷🏼♂️
If Rob Warner says you should have an eBike, you go and f***kin' buy an eBike!
E-bikes are wicked am a 69er on a 29er n lovin it :)
Rob Warner what a legend and totally agree about his view on Ebikes.
Just wanted to say that! :)
I love it when GMBN Tech takes over
Rob warner endorsing emtb's pretty much encapsulates everyones first experience and enjoyment riding an e mountain bike
all these haters done know what they're missing!
15mph is just not fast enough for commuting on the road 25-30 mph maybe then its a valid alternative to a car. If it 15mph I will stick with my 2.3l turbo car thanks sod the planet.
I love my 2 litre turbo punto but prefer my home made 1000 watt bafang mtb.
Have you guys heard of the bike race "Tour Divide." 2,745 mile Canada to Mexico race through the Rocky Mountains? It's ultra-distance, self-supported, off-pavement, bikepacking race.
Steve, why not give away an EMBN t shirt away for bike of the week? They do it on GMBN with hacks n bodges
This bull ebike illegalisation is why we voted brexit. They would ban or tax air if they could.
Great product. Works well.
Seriously if the limit was 18-19 mph I don’t think anyone riding dirt would bother with de restriction devices,sort it out lads.....
OK guys, you can take your tablet out of the stove now...
They can't, it's melted in there...
"Psst... dude, do you have any that e-bike?"
Doddy "It is the forest of Dean though". As a local that's so true 🤣😂
That bike vault winner looks photoshopped!
Definitely looks fake!
What looks fake about it?
@@ollierichards6508 Nothing. They haven't got a clue
I'd say the fact it's stood up on its own is the biggest clue but the lighting is totally different on the bike to the rest of the image too
16:35 this is totally in Jordan mate, not the whole country is a desert, north from Amman the capital it is all green with small forests of pine trees, this location called "Wasfi Al Tal Forest" you can look it up on the inter-web. Doddy, you've been quite harsh on my photo I guess, I would say it is totally SUPER NICE, plus how many submission from Jordan you guys get.. let me guess, probably it is only me :p
keep it up guys, much love and support from Jordan
Haha, looks lush! We need to get over there! Sorry Mashhour
@@stevejones7956 hahaha nothing for mate, I just find it interesting sometimes the perception about our region. And it goes without saying you guys are most welcome anytime 🙏🙏
The French law is totally moronic. Maybe they need to spend all their time chasing regular bicycles as they travel downhill at 40+mph with speed generated by gravity. I know; fine the gravitational force! Gravity is the culprit! Stupid gravity! :)
Am I right in thinking that the wood burner just has an iPad with a film of some flames playing in it?
I was thinking the same 🔥
These are the same fairies that restricted their motorcycles to 100hp. 🤦🏻♂️
that winning bike is really obviously photoshopped
you really obviously don't know what you're on about
Super! Love the fireplace!
let's see....
french government: tries to suppress the yellow vest protest to the high gas prices that have been going on for over a year and wreaking havoc.
french population: tries to escape gas taxes by using bicycles and thus quell the yellow vest protests.
french government: tries to make e-biking too slow, forcing people to need to back to fuel vehicles and reinforce the yellow vest protests.
what a hellhole.
the protest are about how all of them got screwed out of there state pensions..bet you never heard that in the main stream news
Laws and legislation to control the people. How does some government official sitting behind a desk have any clue about the control a rider has of an Ebike while the rider is riding the bike , madness .
Maybe some smart cookie will offer ebike derestriction certification and insurance options.
I'm surprised they haven't made a separate category of transport and made you take a test to ride them de-restricted. I'd be up for that all you'd need is a quick road safety test like a cbt but geared towards riding a bike. Then you can get insured and you wouldn't really need a MOT of such as not much to test unless they make it compulsory for you to have lights ect
@@MegaNayton You dont trust yourself ? would a piece of paper make you more safe ?
I personally don't feel we need another government organisation payed for at the cost to the private sector.
I think people are more than capable measuring risk.
@@MrDaymien1 It's not that I don't trust my self it's the fact I can't ride a bike legally on the road that's not limited to 250w and 15mph. If I had an accident I'd have the book thrown at me and it may not even be my fault could be a careless driver pulling out on me that could land me in hospital and in hot water with the law. By having a test it would make my bike legal and allow me to get insurance for when such things happen
have these blokes got shares in 250watt ebikes ??? how boring
Nope, just talking about things they're enthusiastic about!
Sponsored though.
I have a Radrover (US import) bought & ordered before Apr 2015 when the current legislation came in. The bike has 500 watt motor with a twist grip (as well as PAS) and is tuneable to 40 KPH, all of which is now not legal - but was then! Legislation for cars & motorcycles change all the time though the older non compliant vehicles remain legal to use so hence should my old Rad still be OK? Thoughts please?
Depends where you live
i never seen a test with the Scott Genius 900 tuned ...
Is it possibol tot do a test with the Scott Genius 900 tuned ? I bougt that bike ..and i want to now wath you thinking about ..
Fantastic guys yet again another brilliant programme 😂😂😂love the crack boys🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣❤️🤘
the delimiter i have is hardly powerful. Perhaps I can get the bike up to 28 mph - tops (if I'm riding all out).
Rob Warner is the Ozzy Osborne of mtn biking lol
15.5 mph is for mobility scooters .... even a grandad bike from 1900 will make to 28-30 .... and down hill 40-50 mph if steep enough .... This is going to end like CB ... MILLIONS USING 1k plus motors .... Government forced to introduce a tax and liability insurance possible road worthy test !
I’ve no problem with very high power e bikes that leave me standing , but agree keep it to the legal road speed , in the 6-7 years I’ve been at it I’ve only had a go of 1 fully restricted e bike , it was awful cheap n nasty just the kind of bike that will fall apart n cause an accident...
now I’ve crept over the big 50 the most important thing for me is is a comfy saddle sprung Brooks rule !
Im not seeing enough peddling if it aint torque assist may as well by an escrambler
The best Bleeping video yet!!!
Honet question with no ill intent. I've always though in the U.K. that The government was more responsive to what people want and/or you were much better than the U.S. at democracy and turn what people want into law. So why all the ridiculous restrictions on e-bikes. Like 250W motors maximum for instance. That won't get you up even a moderate incline withut pedalling. And since unhealthiness is one of the main reasons use e-bikes . . .
That's just what E-bikes are and we're fine with it! You should have to pedal to get up a climb, otherwise it's just electric motor biking, we're still mountain bikers at heart, so we don't mind the restriction at all. It's not unhealthiness that drives us to ride these either, it's the love of every bike ride being a massive one, with a big grin all the way, whilst still being allowed to ride trails for mountain bikes.
Im with Rob. EMTBs are f#@!ing awesome!
Hi! I didn't get the place where they where in Spain? Somebody can help me? That location seems so nice!
There isn’t a cop in America that would even know the different levels of ebike… let alone care enough… to give a citation. Lol. Well maybe in San Francisco.
old lady causing no harm to anyone "i hope she gets a 30k fine!" hmmm yeah... good one.
Granny kicks ass!
Cool granny!
🇺🇸 I love my semi-automatic and deregulated assault e-bike.
But seriously, I do like riding my rad-mini into the woods to shoot targets!
No mention about Thomas Hanlon?... Or did I miss it somehow?
Emtbs are best used as hire bikes imho like jetskis etc, great fun but leave the costly maintenance to the hire company! Great laugh though!
I see in a comment for giant yamaha to unlock speed limit just press 5 time rapid succession the light button it true?
Great idea
The chemistry between this pair is fucking hilarious! Steve Jones constantly butts in and ignores pretty much everything the other bloke says. Pretty strained relationship from where I'm sat, I don't think Doddy likes him one bit......
Haibike is done. I have ridden almost all new bikes. Cost almost twice as much as a Bulls and looses in almost every aspect....
Love Rob he's the boy🤣🤣🤣🤣
What about all cars that are chipped to 180-200hp rendering ins void, total over reaction
Somebody tell winter to bugger off! Spring wants to come in!
Cheers!
Rob Warner! You are great!
Me too ! At 50 E bike all the way ! 1500 watt mid drive !
Bafang? Nice 1!
waste of time I lock my bike up in my shed with all the tools you would need to get thru most locks I have
Completely disproportionate French response to a non problem
Just come back from the speed camera riddled Increasingly miserable state of France... no wonder the yellow vests are burning the place down
Scott Genius 900 tuned ..
That’s right riding a Ebike is like being a kid again! Mind you riding a motorbike is like being a teenager with his naughty milf neighbour!!
I was distracted trying to work out if that's a real fire or?
Illegal is a sick bird.
Guys, it really is getting kind of old. We get it, Specialized is your major sponsor and you are pushing the Levo whenever you can. But there are plenty of ebikes from other nice brands out there that offer significantly better value at lower price points and when it comes to up-hill trails or longer tours, many Cubes or Canyons leave the Levo in the dust. Pretending that great ebikes start at the price of a Levo is not even funny.
Buy a kit and make your own.
What about "Frey Bikes"
The bike world pricing itself into extinction
No problem, I’ll go more than 25kmh with my normal bike. I need no ebike to have assistance only till 25kmh
More than 25 everywhere? Good luck with that!
@Electric Mountain Bike Network I know, I know, obviously not climbing but for when you most need to go fast in flat long sections the 25 km/h limit make the assistance a bit useless.
danyy did that ages ago
Gmbn sticker at 16:02
Super nice and Bike of the week to an
obviously photoshop mounted Specialized! Come on......🙄🙄🤣🤣🤣
@embn
How are all these viewers bikes so spotlessly clean out on the trail ? I come back covered in mud and have to pull chunks off my Emtb before I clean it. Can I send in a picture with it caked in mud and sheep $¥!t ?
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What the hell did Rob say? All I heard were beeps....
But i bought the bike in england ..
You out last night, Steve?
Rob needs a Sur-Ron ... the next level mate.
The guy on the right sounds like his saddle has rattled his man parts one to many times
I'm French. Our country is a land of many restrictions, which is a shame but the other day I was coming out of my alley, didn't see the bike coming in the road mirror and he nearly smashed into the car, he was flying. These bikes need lights and stuff to be seen but regulations will surely make things better still. 25 km/h is far enough for a bike. It has to remain a bicycle.
I live in belgium ..my englis is not perfect ..
Why you are living in Belgium,that makes no sense?!
I'm glad I don't live in France. Talk about being over-governed.
You forgot to mention the upto 1 year in prison aswell as €30k (2 years if your the retailer who sold it). So worst case is you get a year in prison, lose your job, and when you finally get out you need to find 30k! Not worth it.
Gotta catch u first.
@@nickd6056 no problem here. The police have BMW enduro bikes for patrolling the forests!
Steve's okay I guess. Great show though.
see Dealers who De restrict Ebikes in France can go to PRISON
Old .!!!
Very addictive this channel, keep it up guys. Cheers. Re illegal e bikes, it has to be stopped because as usual the idiots ruin it for everyone else, riding at 30 & 40mph on pavements, it's bad enough at 25kmh hit someone at 40 mph someone's going to be killed, there's also lots of cases of undesirables drug running/ thieves operating on illegal e- bikes these idiots are going to ruin the reputation of all e-bikers if it's not stopped, just saying. High speed E-bikes should be allowed on the roads providing they have mot's, insurance, number plates, licences and protective gear etc and they should have to take a test too.