Very nice.. don't pay attention to the trolls. I think this is a great instrument training tool. With the right instructor.. You should be able to get a rating with less than 10 hrs in actual airplane. Why not practice in imc weather.
Amazing setup. Six hours on that chair was fast. With that many small pieces I would have guessed a day to put together. You are unbelievably talented in all electrical and computerized things. Congrats friend!
Thank you very much for a good video and the 6DOF experience, i thoroughly enjoyed watching. Initially i tried searching for the 6DOF videos, didnt get much. Thank you for your video.
Leonard, thank you for such a great video. I've seen many aviation related videos and this one has a great deal of information and shows the ability of such a system. God Bless.
I love your set up. I just ordered my HoneyComb Yoke and throttle and my goal is to learn the 172 and do all the ground school on the simulator my dream is to fly a Honda jet one day
@Abel Largo, Thank you very much. The Cessna 172 is a fun plane to fly. Doing your own ground school helps out a lot when you start taking flying lessons.
Wow! Great job Thank you so much for sharing your insight, experience, and equipment with us. I have had a really negative experience with the HP Reverb and X-plane 12 (which clearly do not work together), but you've created a wonderful aspiration for what we might hope to gain from new technologies. Again, thank you for your time and effort in sharing your experience.
Thanks for sharing your simpit to youtube. I love the reinforcing of instrument procedures from your actual flying. There is a reason Part 121 pilots use sims all year long to retain proficiency.
Lovely rig Sir. I think i would end up 6ft under if my amazing wife caught me buying one. Its fir that reason i am about to start building my own 3dof rig. Wiah me luck.
All that money sunk into the setup and still running HDDs 🙈 hopefully that's your next upgrade- it'll be like night and day! Great video and well envious of you!
@Jonay / Gimbal, I upgraded my X-Plane 12 to a CRUCIAL 4TB MX500 2.5 3D NAND SSD. I also upgraded my Windows 11 to a 2TB M.2 NVMe drive. You’re correct, the difference is night and day! Thanks for watching!
If you don't use open composite you need to try it. I play dirt rally 2.0 which is a rally racing sim and its night and day. So many more frames and better looking, less screen tearing and lower response time.
I don't actually know if it helps xplane or not. If it uses openvr it will. And for anyone interested for dirt rally 2.0, you do need a mod to fix openvr on top of composite.
Your computer would be much more snappy if you used ssd's rather than the spinning rust you have, otherwise nice setup. We are looking at getting a platform like that, it looks really cool!
Hey nice video, Quick Tip, a new file was released made by AMD which can double or even triple your framerate and also offer higher resolution at the same time. TheMysticle made a video about it today
Great video. I'm looking at getting one of the DOFs chairs for racing and drifting. I have an Oculus 2 and the immersion is great, but I'm craving the physical forces now too.
@Precise Chaos, Thank you very much. I also have a steering wheel and gas pedals for car racing games. Using the motion for the car racing was awesome. I could feel the car shifting gears and going over the rumble strips. Motion definitely adds a whole new level of immersion.
You’re my inspiration to pick up the DoFReality 6 platform. Can I ask about Orbx Southern/Northern CA scenery - my Father has X-Plane and isn’t happy about the native scenery for Northern CA. Do you see snow in the Sierras and more “green” in the winter time? Some places he flies it looks like he’s flying over the desert, as if X-Plane mapped CA in the summertime when everything is all brown. Anyway, keep up the great content and helping the community out!
@stephengomes977, I'm using X-plane 12 now and the Orbx Southern/Northern CA scenery does show snow on the Sierras. I also use the Pimax 8kx now because of the wide FOV. I went in went into the SAM3 content manager folder and updated "Seasons" v 1.0.6. The location is...Resources/plugins/SAM/ content_manager/windows/sam3_content_manager. Thanks for watching.
Nice setup! I just found your video while researching the H6. Considering getting one. I currently use the NextLevel V3 seat mover, but this looks like it offers much more immersion. I fly DCS mostly (dream was to be a fighter pilot😄 ), with some MSFS and X-Plane 11. Also a real world PPL (24 years now), not flying as much as I used to.
@Redtail Pilot, Thank you. The H6 is definitely worth it. I really like how it tilts forward and backwards to simulate accelerating and decelerating. Thank you for watching!
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard The V3 does the same. I wish I could find a good comparison video to show me how much I'd gain by making the switch, because even though it's only a seat mover, it is very effective in what it adds to VR. I'd probably want to sell it if I got the H6 though.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard Question. How closely would you say the motion feels to real life (in VR)? And...do you have any thoughts on the P6 as compared to the H6, given such a big price difference? Thanks
@@redtailpilot, I think the H6 motion chair is 35% pretty close to real life. It still takes a lot of fine tuning in the SRS software app to get more realism. I haven’t gotten it to recreate the nose wheel bounce or the swaying on final approach like in a real Cessna 172. I’ve heard that the P6 has a few more degrees of movement over the H6. I might upgrade to the P6 motors so that I can get those extra degrees of movement.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard Appreciate your input. I've heard another H6 owner say the same. I want to make the best choice up front, especially coming in at this point when the prices are even higher than the were.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard yes yes the roller coasters are quite amazing. Funny thing, I don’t like roller coasters but in VR it’s great fun… Blessings!
Man, awesome! Either you aren't married, or you have an awesome wife! LOL. Really nice! I've been looking at these platforms, but close to 6k plus another 3k into a solid CPU/GPU? Getting close to 10k. Wifie might murder me. LOL.
@Curious_Skeptic, LOL! 👍🏾 I’ll be married going on 34 years this November. My wife really enjoys my flight simulator hobby. Getting this motion platform and a nice powerful pc is doable. Thanks for watching!
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard Congrats on your Marriage. I'm at 30 years, but we are semi separated. Still friends and live in the same house with the family. ANyway.. AWESOME AWESOME. Did you ever fly for real? Is the platform really impressive? (aka worth the 10k investment?)
@@Curious_Skeptic, Thank you very much. This platform and gaming computer was well worth the investment. I do still fly the Cessna 172 in real life. I got my private pilots license a few years ago.
Ha! Yes!!! I have a VERY indulgent wife… (she was an awesome co-pilot during our old 1984 Elite days…) But what ‘we all’ need from him is a DMS…Domestic Management System. 🫠
Hey man, I really appreciate how you made your video. This was very informative and impressive, and your presentation made it easy to learn. Thank you for taking the time to make this! How has this system held up? What would you do differently now?
@casoblantly, You're welcome. I've now upgraded my pc and switched to X-Plane 12. My next upgrade is to get the new SFU motor kit for my motion platform. The SFU kit allows more movement per axis on the platform. I show my new pc setup in my new X-Plane 12 VR video on my channel. Thanks for watching!
What an incredible set up! I am an aspiring pilot as well, and looking to build a home simulator. Yours is so impressive, but the computer hardware is beyond my basic skills in that area. Do you have any suggestions or advice?
@ Andrew Heyman, Thank you very much! You can start with a decent computer and run triple monitors. I used to have an Nvidia graphics card that supported 3 monitors before I went with this VR headset. You will also need a powerful cpu, at least 16GB of ram, and a graphics card with at least 10-12 GB of memory to run a flight simulator setup well. This type of setup will make your real flight training go really smooth. 👍🏾
Mr. Brown, I am in the process of getting the DOF Reality H6 and have several questions regarding your setup. What factors made you go with the H6 rather than the P6, Usage time vs. cost? or some other factor? Also What seat did you go with and does it have a center stick cutout as it appears to have? I am primarily going to use the unit for DCS flight and want to mount both a side stick for fixed wing and center stick for rotary wing. Much appreciate your time to answer a few questions. Very nice setup!
@Sean McNeely, Hello, I went with the H6 because I didn’t really need the heavy duty motors that came with the P6. The seat that I use is the RS9 by GT Omega. It’s a really nice seat. The seat rail holes lined up perfectly with the H6 seat rail holes. It doesn’t have a center stick cutout. The newer DOF platforms all come with the upgraded motors called SFU gearboxes. These SFU motors provide much smoother motion and have higher degrees of motion. On the older style motors that I have, you can feel the gear lash. Thanks for watching.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard once I got the VR head set I was so impressed by it the first thing was start to research chairs for it because it is awesome but something else is missing. Thanks for the upload ✌
very nice setup, inspiring, congrats. Do you feel engine vibrations in your but upon engine startup? do you feel taxi pavement roughness? and finally, do you feel a different kick in your ass depending your landing roughtness? many thanks!
@mmerelles, Thank you very much. Upon engine start up, no, I don’t feel the vibration. I may have to add a Buttkicker to feel those vibrations. I can feel the roughness in the pavement when I’m taxiing though. With the SRS software, I can feel the wheels hit the runway when I’m landing. Thanks for watching.
It would be good to see some of these demos using say an F18 and some low level high G turns down through some mountain valley's like in Top Gun Maverick.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard just for info - you can still fly the F18 with yoke and any throttle - these guys with the full hotas, it looks good, but its not what makes a skilled pilot or dog fighter. I was more intetested in seeing the movement platform performance when doing radical attitude changes.
@@rinzler9775 I can turn up the movements by adjusting the sliders in the SRS software. The movements can be pretty extreme and forceful if I increase the numbers too much though.
Im fly Xplane and MFS for both fun and to also learn the basics of flying. I use Oculus Vr equipment. I am on the boarder to buying a H3 unit but when watching the video, it doesnt look as if there is much experience in using a simulator seat when flying basic rotations and movements. They are normally subtle. My question is are the DOF units worth the money when it comes to using it for standard flights? With your basic movements in the video, its hard to tell if you are really feeling the experience or if its so subtle its unnoticeable. I do know these are great for Iracing as there is a lot more drastic movement. But im more into flying. Money is not an issue, however I do not buy luxuries just to buy them. Have to get an experience out of the investment. Thanks for any info. (Second question could be is the H6 worth paying extra over the H3 based on what ive asked about...once again question if the experience is that great upgrading?) I have no way of trying on which would answer all of this.
@HVMS, Hello, yes, the DOF units are worth buying, especially the H6 model. You don’t need a lot of drastic movements in flight simulators to feel motion. Small movements are enough. However, you can turn the all of the motion axis up more to make the movements more extreme. You use the SimRacingStudio app to adjust the movements. You should get the H6 or P6 over the 3 axis units since you’re into flying. Flying involves all 6 degrees of freedom. You can watch my other video here which shows the chair moving a lot due to extreme turbulence. At the 20:15 mark is when I start to encounter the turbulence. ruclips.net/video/ehlw1TGibfE/видео.html Thanks for watching!
Very beautiful setup. PPL SEP here with a home cockpit, a brunner and flying in VR as well. Question. How do you writenyour clearances in VR? Using a graphic tab and a software to see what you write, or just a pen and a sheet, and reading out of VR?
@davidweisbrod5771, Thank you very much. When I write down and read back my clearances, I use a pen and paper and just flip up my VR headset. Avitab in VR has a note page if I want to use my controllers to write with, but I don’t use that feature.
SERIOUS DATA NEEDED!: awesome setup man! Brush off the haters… you have something to be proud of! Here’s what many of us need from you… create us a Womanfolk Guide! How in hades did you keep peace in the house…. Lead us brother…to the promise land! 😂 My usual tactic of “‘… oh, this old thing, had it forever don’t really remember exactly what it cost…? That’s not gonna cut it for The H6.
@sondrax, Thank you. This motion platform really helps me stay proficient when I’m not flying the real Cessna 172. I’ve since upgraded my computer, got a Pimax 8kx VR headset, and went with X-Plane 12. My next upgrade will be the SFU motors for the H6. Thanks for watching.
Super cool, Im looking to build a motion rig for my flight and racing sims. I would like to get my private pilot license thanks to MS fight simulator. :D My love for cars and racing, I think It will be a justified cost.
@Octo Games, Thanks. Adding motion gives you another level of immersion. Using a flight simulator will definitely help in getting your PPL. Thanks for watching!
13:19 Did I hear right and you said you were getting 30-35 Frames per second - with rig specs like yours ? That cannot be right. Even 130-135 FPS would be low with an I9 and 3090. Love the setup.
@Reg Watson, Hello, using a VR headset will cut your frame rates in half. So, getting 30-35 fps is pretty normal for this type of setup. I do go up to 40 fps when I’m in the air though.
Im working on building my own full sim, do you have a problem with the vr POV turning inside the cockpit because the sim is actually moving you? or is there software to counteract that?
I have a question sir hope you can answer me , that DOF simulator does it affect your GPU and CPU in any ways at all ? Does it affect your frames rate ?
@sicot111, Hello, the DOF simulator does not affect my gpu, cpu, or frame rates at all. What helps me a lot is that my processor and gpu are pretty powerful. Having a 1200 watt psu and 64GB of RAM also helps.
Beautiful set up. How do you write and read your ATC notes with VR? It seems that you are writing with a real pen and paper. I use a simple graphic tablet (Wacom) with MS Paint and can see the window in xplane with Move VR or Desktop for Fs2020
@David Weisbrod, Thank you very much. Since I’d like to get my instrument rating someday, I’d rather use the actual pen and paper to write down my ATC clearances. Thanks for watching.
Hi, my question is about the ATC program called pilot edge. Does it interfere with towered airports since you have to make calls like when you are down wind (going on memory from when my father flew his 172)? I ask this as they might be expecting you on their radar like in a big airport for example. And if you’re talking to them it might take away their attention. Great video and explanation of your system. This is the platform that I want in the future, and the way you present it this video is easily understood and the transcript is invaluable. Keep up the great job!
@Stephen Gomes, Thank you very much, I appreciate it. With Pilotedge, the controllers are working both VFR and IFR traffic. Just like in real life, they see you and they’re giving you heading instructions if you’re approaching the airport. You can also ask for VFR flight following just like in real life. Pilotedge is so realistic, I learned how to talk to ATC before I began my flight training. Once I started my flight training, my instructor never had to teach me how to talk to ATC. I hope you can get the motion platform soon because you’ll really enjoy it! Thanks for watching.
@ Ben S, it’s only jerky because no one was in the chair. It’s pretty smooth when flying, however you can feel slight gear lash from the motors. There is an upgrade that removes the lash called an SFU upgrade. It uses screw type drives instead of gear drives.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard Hi, have you decided to get that SFU upgrade? I am considering to get the M2 (for the DCS World) for budget reasons to first see how it can be working (need 2 axis to begin, paired with the two bass shakers), and planning to do gas struts dampening or get the dampening part itself to it. But to get the SFU upgrade, it would be at least the H2 version then. But I am waiting answer from the DOFR that is it possible to buy the H2 with the SFU itself, save some money by leaving out the conventional gear drives (otherwise it is 200 extra for each motor, wasting the unused gear drives then....). Very nice video to show the whole flight. I didn't see that you would have a emergency stop button anywhere.
@@paristo Hello, I haven’t updated to the SFU motors yet. I do plan on getting them soon. I did just get the Buttkicker Pro and I’m installing it now. Hopefully I will do a video of it soon. I haven’t had a need to have an emergency stop button. Thank you for watching!
@@sward5090, I got the GT Omega seats because they were the ones that didn’t need seat rail modifications for the DOF H6 platforms. Other seat brands may require you to buy an additional seat rail adapter for the platform.
Thanks for the video. I'm contemplating VR. I'm working on my PPL. Practicing patterns and such using the 55" TV screen works, but it's difficult to keep panning over my shoulder. The VR is nice, but the FOV is small as mentioned in other replies. I use Msfs right now. Are you able to adjust the zoom out like you can when using a monitor? If you do zoom out, can you lean in to see the G1000's text and such? Thanks.
@AviatorGM, Hello, I’ve sold my Reverb G2 and now I’m using the Pimax 8kx VR headset in X-Plane 12. The Pimax 8kx has a very wide 200° diagonal field of view compared to the Reverb G2s narrow 114° diagonal fov. In the Pimax 8kx, when I’m looking over my shoulder while flying in the traffic pattern, it accurately feels like I’m in the real aircraft. While in VR, you can zoom in and out, but it gets distorted a little. I just lean in and out if I want to see the G1000 text up close. I’m using two HTC base stations to be able to do that. VR is definitely the way to go when you’re working on your PPL. Thanks for watching!
Hi Leonard, Nice video good angles to see the movement on the H6 Motion rig. Can i ask that since it appears you still have it 2 years on how is it ? Any issues in the 2 years you've had it and do you think that it was worth the investment? Liked and Subbed
@nemesis_wolf, Thank you very much. The motion platform is still working wonderfully with no issues. I have since upgraded my pc system and added the Brunner CLS- E NG force feedback yoke and Pimax 8kx VR headset. In the future, I will upgrade the motors on my H6 to the newer SFU gearbox motors that DOF Reality provides. Thanks for watching!
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard thanks for the info Leonard, nice upgrades on the yolk and VR headset, if your still using the logitech rudder pedals (I used to have these) I'd recommend an upgrade there also it makes rudder control so much smoother. I can recommend the MFG Crosswinds great kit with strong and sturdy build quality, but one option for you might be the brunner force feedback pedals to match your yolk, if funding permits. This can be an expensive hobby if it's something your passionate about lol. Happy flying and I'll watch your other videos throughout this week for sure. 👍
@peter rabbit, Thank you. No, I haven’t added any additional equipment. On the keyboard, I only use the space bar and the up down, left right arrows to adjust my seat position. I use the hand controllers for everything else.
I see... servos perform much better under load (demo looked a bit shaky). PilotEdge sounds uncannily realistic. I'm curious what the feedback's like in a coordinated turn. In theory, you shouldn't experience any roll or lateral forces - that's how you know you're doing it right. What's been your experience with this setup? Thanks.
@ianbruce9603, Pilotedge is a must have when you want to stay proficient in ATC communications. The feedback in a coordinated turn on my H6 platform feels similar to the real Cessna 172 that I fly in real life. The Sim Racing Studio software allows you to adjust your lateral and roll forces to your liking.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard Thanks Leonard. Appreciate the feedback, but it really doesn't answer my question. Here's the scenario... I've flown into IMC; I'm disoriented. Before this, I had been applying a bit of left rudder to correct for a crosswind - and now, without realizing it, I've allowed the aircraft to roll into a 30-degree bank to the left. Question: what is the motion platform doing? It SHOULD be doing... nothing, since the force vector I'm experiencing is straight down through the floor of the aircraft. My inner ear is telling me nothing is wrong - that I'm flying level - but I'm actually in a 30-degree bank. Does the motion control software replicate this? Thanks.
@@ianbruce9603, if you search….”Jeff Weaver, Sim Racing Studio” on here, he is knowledgeable about the Sim Racing Studio software, and can explain in detail the way this software performs. ruclips.net/video/pzi8G7T9p7A/видео.htmlsi=0Ek5KREbQ4wZHeWI
The GT Omega bolt pattern says 35cm (350mm) but the DOF Reality site says the bolt pattern is 345mm. Did you have to do anything special to mount the seat to the motion platform?
Beautiful set up; nice job. Why did you decide to go with the DOF H6, vs H2 or H3 for flight simulation? Are the extra degrees worth the price difference? Thanks; good luck on your IFR Certification!
@Cali Boy, Thank you very much. I went with the H6 over the H2 or H3 because the H6 has heave, surge, and sway movements. You need those extra 3 movements to get the most realistic flight experience. I really believe the extra degrees of freedom are worth the price difference. Thanks for watching!
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard Appreciate your response! Is the level of immersion enough to simulate types of spatial disorientation (leans, somatographic, inversion, etc?) This would be invaluable for GA flight training. Also, did you look at haptic chair pads (Next Level H8) etc? Amazing how far this technology has come.
@@caliboy7654 Yes, the level of immersion is enough to disorient you if you’re flying in the clouds. I chose to go with a Buttkicker Pro instead of a haptic pad for added immersion. Hopefully I will make a video about it in a few weeks.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard "Yes, the level of immersion is enough to disorient you if you’re flying in the clouds." Worth the price right there ;) Thanks, good sir. Look forward to the video. Buttkicker Pro better than the HF8? Great content; please keep sharing!
Is there an issue with multiplication of movement within the VR tracking, provided by HP reverb, with the actual physical movement, made by motioj platform? I.e. what happens within the VR view if you roll the plane to the left and motion platform follows the command? Don't you getting the head leaned VR vision, as the head is leaned itself together with the chair? This potential issue bothers me for some time, as I'm in the process of making the similar sim-rig.
@Dragon Stanojevic, Hello, there is no multiplication of movement with the HP Reverb. To me, everything behaves just like in real life. The VR tracking works well.
For IFR and smooth flying it’s just fine as Leonard says. If you are getting a bit more dynamic, then he might want to look up the Motion compensation solution a lot of us use, with an Open VR software patch and a 9 axis accelerometer you zip tie under your seat. Great for carrier flying in F18 but a bit overkill for what Leonard is doing. Fine flying Sir.
@@markharris8929 This is an exceptionally useful comment! That issue bothers me for some time and I`ve never found precise answer. Do you have some link with explanation about that 9-axis accelerometer, if I may ask? Or at least store link where I can buy it? Thank you very much, sir!
@jdmkun, Thank you. No, I haven’t tried helicopters yet. You can definitely feel the rotation of the aircraft when you take off. You can also feel the wheels hit the runway when you land.
i watched this to see about this H6...... IDK...It looks rickety and the movements are very jumpy.....Are there fine tune settings to correct?....Thanks for the inform vid....was a lot of work and it's appreciated***
@Kirk Herold, you’re welcome! You can make the movements less jerky through the use of the Sim Racing Studio software. You just turn the sliders down. I prefer more movement though. 😀
@uncleruckus5679, I mainly use my DOF H6 for VR flight simming. I also have a few STEAM games that I use with my H6 like a roller coaster game and a haunted building game. You can start searching STEAM for the types of games you want to play on your P6.
@lee cohen, your h6 should be smoother than mine because your h6 has the new sfu motors. The sfu motors are a new screw type design and my h6 had the old style gear motors.
impressive setup ! How's the HP Reverb G2 for you? I've been contemplating getting VR and there's a G2 on sale for about 300 dollars but not sure about the clarity. From what I've seen on these through the lens videos is that the letters aren't really clear and edge to edge clarity is not grea, rather small sweetspott. I'd want to use it for flying as well and considering reading dials and seeing other airrcraft is a requirement I don't know if I should wait for VR to evolve a bit more? Just wanted your feedback
@ikkeennigij121, Thanks! I’ve upgraded my pc and sold my Reverb G2 since this video. I also bought the Pimax 8kx VR headset. The edge to edge clarity of the Reverbs G2 was good, the sweet spot was small, but the narrow field of view was why I sold it. The Pimax 8kx has a wide fov, a better sweet spot, and the clarity is about the same as the G2. VR is definitely the way to go, they just need to work on the clarity more and offer more headsets with a wider fov.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard Thanks for taking the time to reply, sounds like vr is on the right path, but not there just yet. I've monitored the pimax but read that customer support is quite bad. Thanks man !
@Chloe Anne, Hello, the DOF Reality H6 peak power consumption shows it at 2200 Watts. I've never had any power issues with it though. Thanks for watching.
@ P Chow, You’re welcome. Yes, I’m encountering a little jerkiness on pitch and roll. I heard that it’s because of the type of motors that this rig uses. I’m still very pleased with the operation of this motion chair though.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard Had it for about a month or so now. Mostly using it for MSFS 2020 and DCS. Some people uses motion compensation, but I think it works fine without it. I'm also using HP Gen2 and the H6.
@PENIEL B, Hello, here is the website that I used. dofreality.com/?gc_id=18782251171&h_ad_id=631968481584&gclid=CjwKCAiAh9qdBhAOEiwAvxIok6evLI_krxg8H4bG_Ew-ELPWLVG69N02p5QRyYOaOT6kP2wRX5UFHRoCKfoQAvD_BwE
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard ok. Thanks for the reply. I can't keep my eyes open at that time just to pee, let alone do artwork. That's as impressive as your rig. 👍
@garyking6365, that Saitek yoke has lasted me 7 years with no problems. I also used this yoke to practice on when I became a private pilot a few years ago. I am waiting on Honeycomb to come out with their Yoke Lite model. It doesn’t have any buttons on it, it’s just the bare yoke. Thanks for watching.
I've been meticulously looking into this H6 and P6 DOF Reality system. I'm on the fence getting one at this point, there was one review in particular who was familiar with many motion simulators and such and he mentioned in his review that there was some slop and a slight bit of lag of response between how responsive it moves compared to what your seeing. I was wondering if you experienced or noticed any lag between the movement and what you are seeing in the VR headset from an honest viewpoint. Considering this other guy is comparing other motion systems, I understand it's fair his analysis is based on comparing apples to apples so given that obviously it would be more critical than others who haven't which is a fair point. I just would like to know if you notice anything and if it bothers you at all. Also another note, this guy is testing the limits of the system doing the who racing thing response time is very important vs. flight not so much. ruclips.net/video/Ce3kDeZst9c/видео.html
@Dr. No, I don’t have any lag between the motion chair and my vr headset. This chair is very responsive. There is an upgrade kit that smooths out some of the slop. It’s called an SFU upgrade.
Mate.. Do yourself a huge favor and get rid of the cheap Logitech yoke and get a Brunner force feedback yoke. Your setup in this video is like a Ferrari with bicycle wheels.
@Gobsworn, LOL! Thanks for your critique. I’ve had this yoke for about 2 years now. I’ll replace it when it breaks.😂 I’ll check out the Brunner yoke that you mentioned though. Thanks for watching!
@hammer string, have you ever flown in the cockpit of a real airplane in vfr conditions? Part of the FAA regulations require you to keep looking out constantly for other traffic.
Very nice.. don't pay attention to the trolls. I think this is a great instrument training tool. With the right instructor.. You should be able to get a rating with less than 10 hrs in actual airplane. Why not practice in imc weather.
@S G, Thank you. I do occasionally fly in IMC conditions, I just haven’t done a video of it yet. Thanks for watching.
This is an amazing video. Thats some setup you have there Sir!!!! Love it!!!!
@Steven McCarron, Thank you very much.
Amazing setup. Six hours on that chair was fast. With that many small pieces I would have guessed a day to put together. You are unbelievably talented in all electrical and computerized things. Congrats friend!
Thank you very much. I’ve always been into gadgets ever since I was a kid! Lol!
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard A jack of so many trades and it seems a master of a few. I'm not mad at you 🥰....
Good tip about rachet strap for building!
Thank you very much for a good video and the 6DOF experience, i thoroughly enjoyed watching. Initially i tried searching for the 6DOF videos, didnt get much. Thank you for your video.
@TNT-tf9jd, You’re welcome. I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
Very nice video,
well presented and explained very vividly, so I also like to fly with my DOF H6
Best wishes from Germany
Olli
Thank you very much, I appreciate it.
Leonard, thank you for such a great video. I've seen many aviation related videos and this one has a great deal of information and shows the ability of such a system. God Bless.
@user-kn6sz8ji1j, I’m glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!
I love your set up. I just ordered my HoneyComb Yoke and throttle and my goal is to learn the 172 and do all the ground school on the simulator my dream is to fly a Honda jet one day
@Abel Largo, Thank you very much. The Cessna 172 is a fun plane to fly. Doing your own ground school helps out a lot when you start taking flying lessons.
Good job man. Loved your video, hopefully one day I can do something similar
Wow, amazing rig. Smart investment. Congratz from Santiago, Chile.
@Andres Chapero, Thank you very much.
Wow! Great job Thank you so much for sharing your insight, experience, and equipment with us. I have had a really negative experience with the HP Reverb and X-plane 12 (which clearly do not work together), but you've created a wonderful aspiration for what we might hope to gain from new technologies. Again, thank you for your time and effort in sharing your experience.
@ Phineas Gage, you’re welcome! Thanks for watching.
Wonderful! Thank you for sharing. You are my new hero! 🙂
@ Brian Bywaters, You’re welcome. I’m glad you enjoyed it. 😀
Thanks for sharing your simpit to youtube. I love the reinforcing of instrument procedures from your actual flying. There is a reason Part 121 pilots use sims all year long to retain proficiency.
You’re welcome! I’m glad you enjoyed the video.
GREAT SETUP!!!...I've been SIMMING for over thirty years ( Attari COMODORE 64 )...Yeah SIMS have come long way!!!>>>
@Larry Southern, Thank you very much. The immersion is so much better these days. 😃
Wow!!!! Awesome! Just awesome. I'm speechless!! Great setup. Thanks for sharing. I really like it and i really enjoyed watching your video.
@12369200, Thank you very much! I’m glad you enjoyed the video.
Lovely rig Sir. I think i would end up 6ft under if my amazing wife caught me buying one. Its fir that reason i am about to start building my own 3dof rig. Wiah me luck.
@Terry Teed, Thank you very much. Thanks for watching!
Great set up mate 🍻
@angrybrit129, Thank you very much.
I am SSSOOO jealous.
All that money sunk into the setup and still running HDDs 🙈 hopefully that's your next upgrade- it'll be like night and day! Great video and well envious of you!
@Jonay / Gimbal, I upgraded my X-Plane 12 to a CRUCIAL 4TB MX500 2.5 3D NAND SSD. I also upgraded my Windows 11 to a 2TB M.2 NVMe drive.
You’re correct, the difference is night and day! Thanks for watching!
This is awesome!
@jvh22a, Thank you very much.
If you don't use open composite you need to try it. I play dirt rally 2.0 which is a rally racing sim and its night and day. So many more frames and better looking, less screen tearing and lower response time.
I don't actually know if it helps xplane or not. If it uses openvr it will. And for anyone interested for dirt rally 2.0, you do need a mod to fix openvr on top of composite.
@@Jacob-bm6wb, I’m using a Pimax 8kx headset now. I tried PimaxXR with opencomposite in Xplane 12 and I had no increase in performance.
Your computer would be much more snappy if you used ssd's rather than the spinning rust you have, otherwise nice setup. We are looking at getting a platform like that, it looks really cool!
this is nice!
@leodamico, Thanks!
Excellent setup thanks for the video
@Arnold Grayson, You’re welcome. Thanks for watching.
Hey nice video, Quick Tip, a new file was released made by AMD which can double or even triple your framerate and also offer higher resolution at the same time. TheMysticle made a video about it today
Thanks, I appreciate it.
next level
Awesome set up Leonard! This is VERY inspiring. Best wishes towards your future endeavors!
@roddraym, Thank you very much. I’m glad you enjoyed the video.
nice set up man, love the shirt!
@Mr F, Thank you very much. The image on the t-shirt is my own artwork.
man, you need the Yaw2 is amazing!
Workout Bench FTW
@gotoguy69, Oh yeah!! 😄 💪🏾🏋🏾♂️
great post, love the shirt
@JNBennett64, Thank you very much! The shirt is available on my website…..www.artbyleonard.com
So, there are flight controllers sitting in a virtual tower, keeping up their skills for the real thing...cool!
@Jan, yeah, it’s very realistic. 😀
Bout to hook this up to project wingman
Nice work
@Ollie Brown, Thank you very much.
Great video. I'm looking at getting one of the DOFs chairs for racing and drifting. I have an Oculus 2 and the immersion is great, but I'm craving the physical forces now too.
@Precise Chaos, Thank you very much. I also have a steering wheel and gas pedals for car racing games. Using the motion for the car racing was awesome. I could feel the car shifting gears and going over the rumble strips. Motion definitely adds a whole new level of immersion.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard I'm definitely going to get it then. It's a lot cheaper than buying a car and risking breaking things or trouble haha.
@@precisechaos2144, Go for it! 😀
Honey! I'm going to work out for a few than get in my airplane thingy and fly around. Wife: OK. I'll be be at the neighbors house.
@ ouch myfinger, LOL! 😂
You’re my inspiration to pick up the DoFReality 6 platform.
Can I ask about Orbx Southern/Northern CA scenery - my Father has X-Plane and isn’t happy about the native scenery for Northern CA. Do you see snow in the Sierras and more “green” in the winter time?
Some places he flies it looks like he’s flying over the desert, as if X-Plane mapped CA in the summertime when everything is all brown.
Anyway, keep up the great content and helping the community out!
@stephengomes977, I'm using X-plane 12 now and the Orbx Southern/Northern CA scenery does show snow on the Sierras.
I also use the Pimax 8kx now because of the wide FOV.
I went in went into the SAM3 content manager folder and updated "Seasons" v 1.0.6. The location is...Resources/plugins/SAM/ content_manager/windows/sam3_content_manager.
Thanks for watching.
Nice setup! I just found your video while researching the H6. Considering getting one. I currently use the NextLevel V3 seat mover, but this looks like it offers much more immersion. I fly DCS mostly (dream was to be a fighter pilot😄 ), with some MSFS and X-Plane 11. Also a real world PPL (24 years now), not flying as much as I used to.
@Redtail Pilot, Thank you. The H6 is definitely worth it. I really like how it tilts forward and backwards to simulate accelerating and decelerating. Thank you for watching!
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard The V3 does the same. I wish I could find a good comparison video to show me how much I'd gain by making the switch, because even though it's only a seat mover, it is very effective in what it adds to VR. I'd probably want to sell it if I got the H6 though.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard Question. How closely would you say the motion feels to real life (in VR)? And...do you have any thoughts on the P6 as compared to the H6, given such a big price difference? Thanks
@@redtailpilot, I think the H6 motion chair is 35% pretty close to real life. It still takes a lot of fine tuning in the SRS software app to get more realism. I haven’t gotten it to recreate the nose wheel bounce or the swaying on final approach like in a real Cessna 172.
I’ve heard that the P6 has a few more degrees of movement over the H6. I might upgrade to the P6 motors so that I can get those extra degrees of movement.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard Appreciate your input. I've heard another H6 owner say the same. I want to make the best choice up front, especially coming in at this point when the prices are even higher than the were.
Looks super clean man! If you like vr driving games check out dirt rally 2. Insane fun in vr with 6DOF chair.
@Donkey Dem, thanks, I appreciate it. I already have Dirt Rally 2 and Project Cars 2. I also have Epic Coasters which is pretty cool.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard yes yes the roller coasters are quite amazing. Funny thing, I don’t like roller coasters but in VR it’s great fun… Blessings!
awesome man
@tdmaker85, Thank you very much.
awesome!!
@Stevo, Thanks!
Man, awesome! Either you aren't married, or you have an awesome wife! LOL. Really nice! I've been looking at these platforms, but close to 6k plus another 3k into a solid CPU/GPU? Getting close to 10k. Wifie might murder me. LOL.
@Curious_Skeptic, LOL! 👍🏾 I’ll be married going on 34 years this November. My wife really enjoys my flight simulator hobby. Getting this motion platform and a nice powerful pc is doable. Thanks for watching!
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard Congrats on your Marriage. I'm at 30 years, but we are semi separated. Still friends and live in the same house with the family. ANyway.. AWESOME AWESOME. Did you ever fly for real? Is the platform really impressive? (aka worth the 10k investment?)
@@Curious_Skeptic, Thank you very much. This platform and gaming computer was well worth the investment. I do still fly the Cessna 172 in real life. I got my private pilots license a few years ago.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard Living the dream! :) Fly safe and best to you and yours! Thanks for replying.
Ha! Yes!!! I have a VERY indulgent wife… (she was an awesome co-pilot during our old 1984 Elite days…) But what ‘we all’ need from him is a DMS…Domestic Management System. 🫠
Hey man, I really appreciate how you made your video. This was very informative and impressive, and your presentation made it easy to learn. Thank you for taking the time to make this!
How has this system held up? What would you do differently now?
@casoblantly, You're welcome. I've now upgraded my pc and switched to X-Plane 12.
My next upgrade is to get the new SFU motor kit for my motion platform. The SFU kit allows more movement per axis on the platform.
I show my new pc setup in my new X-Plane 12 VR video on my channel.
Thanks for watching!
What an incredible set up! I am an aspiring pilot as well, and looking to build a home simulator. Yours is so impressive, but the computer hardware is beyond my basic skills in that area. Do you have any suggestions or advice?
@ Andrew Heyman, Thank you very much! You can start with a decent computer and run triple monitors. I used to have an Nvidia graphics card that supported 3 monitors before I went with this VR headset. You will also need a powerful cpu, at least 16GB of ram, and a graphics card with at least 10-12 GB of memory to run a flight simulator setup well. This type of setup will make your real flight training go really smooth. 👍🏾
This is helpful. Thanks. I will take the plunge!
Mr. Brown, I am in the process of getting the DOF Reality H6 and have several questions regarding your setup. What factors made you go with the H6 rather than the P6, Usage time vs. cost? or some other factor? Also What seat did you go with and does it have a center stick cutout as it appears to have? I am primarily going to use the unit for DCS flight and want to mount both a side stick for fixed wing and center stick for rotary wing. Much appreciate your time to answer a few questions. Very nice setup!
@Sean McNeely, Hello, I went with the H6 because I didn’t really need the heavy duty motors that came with the P6.
The seat that I use is the RS9 by GT Omega. It’s a really nice seat. The seat rail holes lined up perfectly with the H6 seat rail holes. It doesn’t have a center stick cutout.
The newer DOF platforms all come with the upgraded motors called SFU gearboxes. These SFU motors provide much smoother motion and have higher degrees of motion.
On the older style motors that I have, you can feel the gear lash.
Thanks for watching.
Hey Rubin Lopez C from fb, I use the oculus 2 with the Microsoft sim works pretty good as well, awesome set up can't wait to get one 💪💪💪💯✌
Cool. I really enjoy using the HP Reverb G2 headset. It has nice clarity and the fov is decent.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard once I got the VR head set I was so impressed by it the first thing was start to research chairs for it because it is awesome but something else is missing. Thanks for the upload ✌
@@nyrubin you’re welcome!
Very nice
@pilot 86, Thank you very much.
very nice setup, inspiring, congrats. Do you feel engine vibrations in your but upon engine startup? do you feel taxi pavement roughness? and finally, do you feel a different kick in your ass depending your landing roughtness? many thanks!
@mmerelles, Thank you very much. Upon engine start up, no, I don’t feel the vibration. I may have to add a Buttkicker to feel those vibrations.
I can feel the roughness in the pavement when I’m taxiing though.
With the SRS software, I can feel the wheels hit the runway when I’m landing.
Thanks for watching.
It would be good to see some of these demos using say an F18 and some low level high G turns down through some mountain valley's like in Top Gun Maverick.
@Rinzler, yeah, unfortunately I don’t have a joystick and I only fly planes that I would fly in real life. Thanks for watching!
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard just for info - you can still fly the F18 with yoke and any throttle - these guys with the full hotas, it looks good, but its not what makes a skilled pilot or dog fighter. I was more intetested in seeing the movement platform performance when doing radical attitude changes.
@@rinzler9775 I can turn up the movements by adjusting the sliders in the SRS software. The movements can be pretty extreme and forceful if I increase the numbers too much though.
Im fly Xplane and MFS for both fun and to also learn the basics of flying. I use Oculus Vr equipment. I am on the boarder to buying a H3 unit but when watching the video, it doesnt look as if there is much experience in using a simulator seat when flying basic rotations and movements. They are normally subtle. My question is are the DOF units worth the money when it comes to using it for standard flights? With your basic movements in the video, its hard to tell if you are really feeling the experience or if its so subtle its unnoticeable.
I do know these are great for Iracing as there is a lot more drastic movement. But im more into flying. Money is not an issue, however I do not buy luxuries just to buy them. Have to get an experience out of the investment. Thanks for any info. (Second question could be is the H6 worth paying extra over the H3 based on what ive asked about...once again question if the experience is that great upgrading?) I have no way of trying on which would answer all of this.
@HVMS, Hello, yes, the DOF units are worth buying, especially the H6 model.
You don’t need a lot of drastic movements in flight simulators to feel motion. Small movements are enough. However, you can turn the all of the motion axis up more to make the movements more extreme. You use the SimRacingStudio app to adjust the movements.
You should get the H6 or P6 over the 3 axis units since you’re into flying. Flying involves all 6 degrees of freedom.
You can watch my other video here which shows the chair moving a lot due to extreme turbulence. At the 20:15 mark is when I start to encounter the turbulence.
ruclips.net/video/ehlw1TGibfE/видео.html
Thanks for watching!
Very beautiful setup. PPL SEP here with a home cockpit, a brunner and flying in VR as well. Question. How do you writenyour clearances in VR? Using a graphic tab and a software to see what you write, or just a pen and a sheet, and reading out of VR?
@davidweisbrod5771, Thank you very much. When I write down and read back my clearances, I use a pen and paper and just flip up my VR headset.
Avitab in VR has a note page if I want to use my controllers to write with, but I don’t use that feature.
SERIOUS DATA NEEDED!: awesome setup man! Brush off the haters… you have something to be proud of!
Here’s what many of us need from you… create us a Womanfolk Guide! How in hades did you keep peace in the house…. Lead us brother…to the promise land!
😂
My usual tactic of “‘… oh, this old thing, had it forever don’t really remember exactly what it cost…?
That’s not gonna cut it for The H6.
@sondrax, Thank you. This motion platform really helps me stay proficient when I’m not flying the real Cessna 172.
I’ve since upgraded my computer, got a Pimax 8kx VR headset, and went with X-Plane 12. My next upgrade will be the SFU motors for the H6.
Thanks for watching.
Super cool, Im looking to build a motion rig for my flight and racing sims. I would like to get my private pilot license thanks to MS fight simulator. :D My love for cars and racing, I think It will be a justified cost.
@Octo Games, Thanks. Adding motion gives you another level of immersion. Using a flight simulator will definitely help in getting your PPL. Thanks for watching!
Very nice video, thanks. I'm trying to decide if the extra 3 DOF the H6 offers over the H3 is worth the extra cost?
@dave-j-k, Thank you very much. If you plan on doing any flight simming, I feel the H6 is the way to go.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard Thanks for that, I'll go for the H6 :)
13:19 Did I hear right and you said you were getting 30-35 Frames per second - with rig specs like yours ? That cannot be right. Even 130-135 FPS would be low with an I9 and 3090. Love the setup.
@Reg Watson, Hello, using a VR headset will cut your frame rates in half. So, getting 30-35 fps is pretty normal for this type of setup. I do go up to 40 fps when I’m in the air though.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard Yes apologies forgot you were in VR.
Im working on building my own full sim, do you have a problem with the vr POV turning inside the cockpit because the sim is actually moving you? or is there software to counteract that?
@Anderson Bloemers, no, I don’t have any problems with the pov while using the HP Reverb G2 in the cockpit.
You like Xplane better than MSFS?
@rogercox8228, yes, I like X-Plane 12 better than MSFS. I get more motion on my motion chair with XP12.
I have a question sir hope you can answer me , that DOF simulator does it affect your GPU and CPU in any ways at all ? Does it affect your frames rate ?
@sicot111, Hello, the DOF simulator does not affect my gpu, cpu, or frame rates at all. What helps me a lot is that my processor and gpu are pretty powerful. Having a 1200 watt psu and 64GB of RAM also helps.
Beautiful set up. How do you write and read your ATC notes with VR? It seems that you are writing with a real pen and paper. I use a simple graphic tablet (Wacom) with MS Paint and can see the window in xplane with Move VR or Desktop for Fs2020
@David Weisbrod, Thank you very much.
Since I’d like to get my instrument rating someday, I’d rather use the actual pen and paper to write down my ATC clearances.
Thanks for watching.
Hi, my question is about the ATC program called pilot edge. Does it interfere with towered airports since you have to make calls like when you are down wind (going on memory from when my father flew his 172)?
I ask this as they might be expecting you on their radar like in a big airport for example. And if you’re talking to them it might take away their attention.
Great video and explanation of your system. This is the platform that I want in the future, and the way you present it this video is easily understood and the transcript is invaluable.
Keep up the great job!
@Stephen Gomes, Thank you very much, I appreciate it.
With Pilotedge, the controllers are working both VFR and IFR traffic. Just like in real life, they see you and they’re giving you heading instructions if you’re approaching the airport.
You can also ask for VFR flight following just like in real life.
Pilotedge is so realistic, I learned how to talk to ATC before I began my flight training. Once I started my flight training, my instructor never had to teach me how to talk to ATC.
I hope you can get the motion platform soon because you’ll really enjoy it!
Thanks for watching.
It seems very jerky. Is it smooth when flying?
@ Ben S, it’s only jerky because no one was in the chair. It’s pretty smooth when flying, however you can feel slight gear lash from the motors.
There is an upgrade that removes the lash called an SFU upgrade. It uses screw type drives instead of gear drives.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard Hi, have you decided to get that SFU upgrade?
I am considering to get the M2 (for the DCS World) for budget reasons to first see how it can be working (need 2 axis to begin, paired with the two bass shakers), and planning to do gas struts dampening or get the dampening part itself to it.
But to get the SFU upgrade, it would be at least the H2 version then. But I am waiting answer from the DOFR that is it possible to buy the H2 with the SFU itself, save some money by leaving out the conventional gear drives (otherwise it is 200 extra for each motor, wasting the unused gear drives then....).
Very nice video to show the whole flight. I didn't see that you would have a emergency stop button anywhere.
@@paristo Hello, I haven’t updated to the SFU motors yet. I do plan on getting them soon. I did just get the Buttkicker Pro and I’m installing it now.
Hopefully I will do a video of it soon. I haven’t had a need to have an emergency stop button. Thank you for watching!
Hi, v good video, I was just wondering where you got the bucket seat to go with the platform as I’m trying to get a better sim myself.
@ S Ward, Hello, I got the GT Omega seat from this link right here. Thanks for watching!
www.gtomega.com/collections/racing-seats
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard what specifications should I look for on racing seats to have compatibility with the H6 or H3 platform?
@@sward5090, I got the GT Omega seats because they were the ones that didn’t need seat rail modifications for the DOF H6 platforms. Other seat brands may require you to buy an additional seat rail adapter for the platform.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard ok good to know. Thanks v much for the advice
Thanks for the video. I'm contemplating VR. I'm working on my PPL. Practicing patterns and such using the 55" TV screen works, but it's difficult to keep panning over my shoulder. The VR is nice, but the FOV is small as mentioned in other replies. I use Msfs right now. Are you able to adjust the zoom out like you can when using a monitor? If you do zoom out, can you lean in to see the G1000's text and such? Thanks.
@AviatorGM, Hello, I’ve sold my Reverb G2 and now I’m using the Pimax 8kx VR headset in X-Plane 12.
The Pimax 8kx has a very wide 200° diagonal field of view compared to the Reverb G2s narrow 114° diagonal fov.
In the Pimax 8kx, when I’m looking over my shoulder while flying in the traffic pattern, it accurately feels like I’m in the real aircraft.
While in VR, you can zoom in and out, but it gets distorted a little. I just lean in and out if I want to see the G1000 text up close. I’m using two HTC base stations to be able to do that.
VR is definitely the way to go when you’re working on your PPL.
Thanks for watching!
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard Thanks for the input
Hi Leonard, Nice video good angles to see the movement on the H6 Motion rig. Can i ask that since it appears you still have it 2 years on how is it ? Any issues in the 2 years you've had it and do you think that it was worth the investment? Liked and Subbed
@nemesis_wolf, Thank you very much. The motion platform is still working wonderfully with no issues. I have since upgraded my pc system and added the Brunner CLS- E NG force feedback yoke and Pimax 8kx VR headset.
In the future, I will upgrade the motors on my H6 to the newer SFU gearbox motors that DOF Reality provides. Thanks for watching!
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard thanks for the info Leonard, nice upgrades on the yolk and VR headset, if your still using the logitech rudder pedals (I used to have these) I'd recommend an upgrade there also it makes rudder control so much smoother. I can recommend the MFG Crosswinds great kit with strong and sturdy build quality, but one option for you might be the brunner force feedback pedals to match your yolk, if funding permits.
This can be an expensive hobby if it's something your passionate about lol.
Happy flying and I'll watch your other videos throughout this week for sure. 👍
Nice set up. Any additional equipment added since this video. Instead of using the keyboard would a button box be more convenient?
@peter rabbit, Thank you. No, I haven’t added any additional equipment. On the keyboard, I only use the space bar and the up down, left right arrows to adjust my seat position. I use the hand controllers for everything else.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard man you should use some more equipment, it will make your flights much more enjoyable.
@@MaximZharov I don’t think extra equipment will help me since I’m using VR.
I see... servos perform much better under load (demo looked a bit shaky). PilotEdge sounds uncannily realistic. I'm curious what the feedback's like in a coordinated turn. In theory, you shouldn't experience any roll or lateral forces - that's how you know you're doing it right. What's been your experience with this setup? Thanks.
@ianbruce9603, Pilotedge is a must have when you want to stay proficient in ATC communications.
The feedback in a coordinated turn on my H6 platform feels similar to the real Cessna 172 that I fly in real life. The Sim Racing Studio software allows you to adjust your lateral and roll forces to your liking.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard Thanks Leonard. Appreciate the feedback, but it really doesn't answer my question. Here's the scenario... I've flown into IMC; I'm disoriented. Before this, I had been applying a bit of left rudder to correct for a crosswind - and now, without realizing it, I've allowed the aircraft to roll into a 30-degree bank to the left. Question: what is the motion platform doing? It SHOULD be doing... nothing, since the force vector I'm experiencing is straight down through the floor of the aircraft. My inner ear is telling me nothing is wrong - that I'm flying level - but I'm actually in a 30-degree bank. Does the motion control software replicate this? Thanks.
@@ianbruce9603, if you search….”Jeff Weaver, Sim Racing Studio” on here, he is knowledgeable about the Sim Racing Studio software, and can explain in detail the way this software performs.
ruclips.net/video/pzi8G7T9p7A/видео.htmlsi=0Ek5KREbQ4wZHeWI
The GT Omega bolt pattern says 35cm (350mm) but the DOF Reality site says the bolt pattern is 345mm. Did you have to do anything special to mount the seat to the motion platform?
@ Tim McLean, I didn’t have to do anything special to mount the seat. The GT Omega seat rail holes lined up perfectly with the DOF H6 holes.
Beautiful set up; nice job. Why did you decide to go with the DOF H6, vs H2 or H3 for flight simulation? Are the extra degrees worth the price difference?
Thanks; good luck on your IFR Certification!
@Cali Boy, Thank you very much. I went with the H6 over the H2 or H3 because the H6 has heave, surge, and sway movements.
You need those extra 3 movements to get the most realistic flight experience.
I really believe the extra degrees of freedom are worth the price difference.
Thanks for watching!
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard Appreciate your response! Is the level of immersion enough to simulate types of spatial disorientation (leans, somatographic, inversion, etc?) This would be invaluable for GA flight training.
Also, did you look at haptic chair pads (Next Level H8) etc?
Amazing how far this technology has come.
@@caliboy7654 Yes, the level of immersion is enough to disorient you if you’re flying in the clouds.
I chose to go with a Buttkicker Pro instead of a haptic pad for added immersion. Hopefully I will make a video about it in a few weeks.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard
"Yes, the level of immersion is enough to disorient you if you’re flying in the clouds." Worth the price right there ;)
Thanks, good sir. Look forward to the video. Buttkicker Pro better than the HF8?
Great content; please keep sharing!
Is there an issue with multiplication of movement within the VR tracking, provided by HP reverb, with the actual physical movement, made by motioj platform? I.e. what happens within the VR view if you roll the plane to the left and motion platform follows the command? Don't you getting the head leaned VR vision, as the head is leaned itself together with the chair?
This potential issue bothers me for some time, as I'm in the process of making the similar sim-rig.
@Dragon Stanojevic, Hello, there is no multiplication of movement with the HP Reverb. To me, everything behaves just like in real life. The VR tracking works well.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard Thank you very much! That's the answer I was hoped for! :)
For IFR and smooth flying it’s just fine as Leonard says. If you are getting a bit more dynamic, then he might want to look up the Motion compensation solution a lot of us use, with an Open VR software patch and a 9 axis accelerometer you zip tie under your seat. Great for carrier flying in F18 but a bit overkill for what Leonard is doing. Fine flying Sir.
@@markharris8929 This is an exceptionally useful comment! That issue bothers me for some time and I`ve never found precise answer. Do you have some link with explanation about that 9-axis accelerometer, if I may ask? Or at least store link where I can buy it?
Thank you very much, sir!
@@DraganStanojevic Hi, have you found any additional information about that accelerator sensor box to counter the motion in chair for VR?
Great video! Have you tried helicopters? How does the lift and landing feel?
@jdmkun, Thank you. No, I haven’t tried helicopters yet. You can definitely feel the rotation of the aircraft when you take off. You can also feel the wheels hit the runway when you land.
i watched this to see about this H6...... IDK...It looks rickety and the movements are very jumpy.....Are there fine tune settings to correct?....Thanks for the inform vid....was a lot of work and it's appreciated***
@Kirk Herold, you’re welcome! You can make the movements less jerky through the use of the Sim Racing Studio software. You just turn the sliders down. I prefer more movement though. 😀
Hi Leanard. Thank you for sharing your experience with this full-motion sim. Are you located in Los Angeles by any chance?
@Jeff Meltzer, you’re welcome, thanks for watching!
Nice setup, please could you give the idea about the price of the motion seat.
@mohsinrauf642, Thanks. I got the motion platform from DOF Reality.com I have the H6 model.
Waiting on my P6 to arrive, just ordered it this past weekend. Any tips?
@uncleruckus5679, I mainly use my DOF H6 for VR flight simming. I also have a few STEAM games that I use with my H6 like a roller coaster game and a haunted building game.
You can start searching STEAM for the types of games you want to play on your P6.
I just ordered my h6. Are the movements smooth. I noticed in your demo before you got into chair that the unit shook quite a bit.
@lee cohen, your h6 should be smoother than mine because your h6 has the new sfu motors. The sfu motors are a new screw type design and my h6 had the old style gear motors.
epic
Thanks!
What did your complete system setup cost you? It is a very nice setup!
@BamaBlitz14, Thank you very much. My complete system cost me a little more than what I spent to get my actual pilot’s certificate. 😀💴💴
impressive setup ! How's the HP Reverb G2 for you? I've been contemplating getting VR and there's a G2 on sale for about 300 dollars but not sure about the clarity. From what I've seen on these through the lens videos is that the letters aren't really clear and edge to edge clarity is not grea, rather small sweetspott. I'd want to use it for flying as well and considering reading dials and seeing other airrcraft is a requirement I don't know if I should wait for VR to evolve a bit more? Just wanted your feedback
@ikkeennigij121, Thanks! I’ve upgraded my pc and sold my Reverb G2 since this video.
I also bought the Pimax 8kx VR headset.
The edge to edge clarity of the Reverbs G2 was good, the sweet spot was small, but the narrow field of view was why I sold it.
The Pimax 8kx has a wide fov, a better sweet spot, and the clarity is about the same as the G2.
VR is definitely the way to go, they just need to work on the clarity more and offer more headsets with a wider fov.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard Thanks for taking the time to reply, sounds like vr is on the right path, but not there just yet. I've monitored the pimax but read that customer support is quite bad.
Thanks man !
@@ikkeennigij121quest 3?
@@ThatOneGuyFromSchool haven't investigated that in depth tbh, but doesn't it rely on WIFI (including when connected with the link cable?)
@@ikkeennigij121 I don't think you need to use wifi if you're using a link cable 🤔
Hi, great video.. just a quick question, doesit really consumes 2400W of electricity?
@Chloe Anne, Hello, the DOF Reality H6 peak power consumption shows it at 2200 Watts. I've never had any power issues with it though. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the video. Are you encountering jerkiness during pitching on the H6?
@ P Chow, You’re welcome. Yes, I’m encountering a little jerkiness on pitch and roll. I heard that it’s because of the type of motors that this rig uses. I’m still very pleased with the operation of this motion chair though.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard I'm enjoying mine too. Trying a few things to lessen the jerkiness using dampers.
@@pchow6829 ok cool, do you have the H6?
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard Had it for about a month or so now. Mostly using it for MSFS 2020 and DCS. Some people uses motion compensation, but I think it works fine without it. I'm also using HP Gen2 and the H6.
Are those real people you’re talking to while taxing?
@ Random GT, Yes, those are real people I’m talking to. They’re on Pilotedge. Thanks for watching!
Nice setup . How much that did it cost you to your pit? You ever seen the Yaw 2 coming out
@tav raney, Thank you. I’m not really interested in the yaw2.
do you not have an SSD for your os?!
No, I don’t have ssd’s. These hdd’s are doing fine though.
Y no ssds
@rictorkooldude10, I now have a NVMe drive for the OS, and a SSD drive for XP 12.
can i know how much
@PENIEL B, Hello, here is the website that I used.
dofreality.com/?gc_id=18782251171&h_ad_id=631968481584&gclid=CjwKCAiAh9qdBhAOEiwAvxIok6evLI_krxg8H4bG_Ew-ELPWLVG69N02p5QRyYOaOT6kP2wRX5UFHRoCKfoQAvD_BwE
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard thanks
Your neck must be super strong!
@Phil T, what do you mean? 😀
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard aren't you over the pond from me? What you doing up already?
That VR set weigh nothing?
@@philt6440 LOL, I’m always up at 5:25am cst to do some artwork. 😂🎨 The HP Reverb G2 is not that heavy. It’s pretty comfortable.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard ok. Thanks for the reply.
I can't keep my eyes open at that time just to pee, let alone do artwork. That's as impressive as your rig. 👍
@@philt6440 Thank you very much.
I'm surprised in the Yoke you are using. Those don't last long and are not smooth. Everything else is high end. Get the Alpha Yoke.
@garyking6365, that Saitek yoke has lasted me 7 years with no problems. I also used this yoke to practice on when I became a private pilot a few years ago.
I am waiting on Honeycomb to come out with their Yoke Lite model. It doesn’t have any buttons on it, it’s just the bare yoke. Thanks for watching.
I've been meticulously looking into this H6 and P6 DOF Reality system.
I'm on the fence getting one at this point, there was one review in particular who was familiar with many motion simulators and such and he mentioned in his review that there was some slop and a slight bit of lag of response between how responsive it moves compared to what your seeing. I was wondering if you experienced or noticed any lag between the movement and what you are seeing in the VR headset from an honest viewpoint. Considering this other guy is comparing other motion systems, I understand it's fair his analysis is based on comparing apples to apples so given that obviously it would be more critical than others who haven't which is a fair point. I just would like to know if you notice anything and if it bothers you at all.
Also another note, this guy is testing the limits of the system doing the who racing thing response time is very important vs. flight not so much.
ruclips.net/video/Ce3kDeZst9c/видео.html
@Dr. No, I don’t have any lag between the motion chair and my vr headset. This chair is very responsive.
There is an upgrade kit that smooths out some of the slop. It’s called an SFU upgrade.
@@LeonardBrownArtbyLeonard that's awesome and good to know thanks for responding, I'll look into the SFU as well.
Mate.. Do yourself a huge favor and get rid of the cheap Logitech yoke and get a Brunner force feedback yoke. Your setup in this video is like a Ferrari with bicycle wheels.
@Gobsworn, LOL! Thanks for your critique. I’ve had this yoke for about 2 years now. I’ll replace it when it breaks.😂 I’ll check out the Brunner yoke that you mentioned though. Thanks for watching!
sorry to point out that you move your head way too much and it's not very realistic
@hammer string, have you ever flown in the cockpit of a real airplane in vfr conditions? Part of the FAA regulations require you to keep looking out constantly for other traffic.
you look silly in that chair
@pilepolle3122, Thanks for watching!
They said the same thing about treadmills. "They" being people who could really use a few hours on a treadmill.
Not everything is about aesthetics.
that's pathetic. work hard and go buy a real plane mate.
@Cornelia Edgerton, you do know that using a simulator helps a pilot stay proficient.
You're a jackass. Commercial pilots don't own their airplanes, and guess what they train on...