I like the point you’re making in the end of the video. Remember that right now the Marianas is a cross roads. In the Japanese Era (of the NMI), the Spanish Era, the American Naval Era, we were crossroads. Go to the history of the Austronesians and you understand how amazing they were at sailing. I’d bet money that austronesians from all over what is now Indonesia and PI were making stops in the Marianas for trade and settlement
Thanks for this video! Very interesting! I'm so glad we're getting more and more interesting videos around the history of Austronesian migrations and diversity. I'm from the Philippines and I love seeing the movements our shared Austronesian ancestors made. I hope more Filipinos and Indonesians see this too, seems everyone here in Southeast Asia has sipped the "Asians aren't related to Pacific islanders" kool aid from mainstream media. Most here don't even know what the word "Austronesian" means. I hope the CHamoru people are more aware overall of our shared Austronesian origins, it's so fascinating. More power to your channel and research! :)
Thankfully in Eastern Indonesia (Maluku,Papua,NTT) we always know ourselves as Indigineous Islanders!Melanesians specifically but we understand and acknowledge the Polynesian connection as well.This is in spite the modern nation of Indonesia that is ruled by Java island trying to force it's Asian identity onto the Indigineous Ancient Melanesians of Eastern "Indonesia"! Ps a little known fact,the islands of West Papua,Maluku,and East Timor NEVER willingly joined "Indonesia".They were all "annexed" by dubious means against most of the locals will.This is something never taught by modern Indonesia,and even sadly they never even teach that the native Oceanian Melanesians still even exist in the Eastern Islands.Eastern Indonesia is now a remote and impoverished region,the most so in the area with hundreds and thousands of totally unique and endemic languages, cultures,and even Animals and Plants.The region is also nicknamed "Wallacea" because of the Scientist Alfred Wallace work in the region and discovery of the invisible Wallace Line in the region that separates Asian and Australian Flora and Fauna,and arguably cultures and people's.The more you know..
Exactly. I'm originally from the Philippines (when I was very young) but grew up here in Australia. You are 100% correct, most Filipino see themselves as pure Asians or more related to our Spanish influence when in fact, Spanish was mainly a Culture evolvement and not genetic. Not demeaning our Spanish history or connecions or anything here of course, however, I see and hear so many Filipinos claim to be mixed Spanish when statistcally there is only under 4% of Filipinos have Spanish bloodline. We are more closer to our Austronesian forefathers. Don't get me wrong as I'm still proud to be called Filipino but I think we are a little dillusional sometimes when it comes down to bloodline & who we really are as peope. It's almost similar to the 'South Africans Coloured people' situation. We almost have a identify crisis because we are in Asia, with strong Austronesians bloodline (hence we are mostly darker than our Asian neighbours) and we have this overpowering Spanish culture. I do hope that we embrace our true genetical backgrund as I feel this is very important. I have a question though, do Filipino Negritos or Aetas come from Taiwanese Austronesian bloodline also or is this another topic? I would love to find out more as I am reading many different history about this.
@@gpl992 Oh I know a little about your history and my heart breaks for the West Papuan peope. I have many Indonesian friends also but my gosh, the poor people from West Papua. So correct me if I'm wrong but how the Maori people from New Zealand are the original peopel of NZ, isn't West Papua the original peoples of Indonesia also?
Austronesian heritage 1. Pottery 2. The drug inducing betel nut 3. Terraced farming 4. Textile waving 5. Crops such as taro, coconut, banana 6. Linguistic Words such as mata (eye), lima (five)
Apparently polynesians are now saying our potteries only washed up on their shores by cooncidence and that they are actually Amerindians because… they eat yams
@@ginoangeles5260Maori have never utilised pottery, not in the 800 years since we arrived in Aotearoa and not even before that. show examples that disprove this assertion...
Brilliant! You summarized hours of reading into a very concise, easy to follow, open-ended video. Thank you. Not sure about the Chamorros but in Yap Island and Palau, the architecture of the houses look very much like traditional houses in Indonesia n south PH. I saw one in Melekeiok, Palau that is very similar with my ethnic house, Batak Toba.
Another excellent video for education and learning! I like how you identify the key points and sources of information, while you encourage people to pursue more ideas. You make a good point that diversity in ancient origins probably is the most logical way to interpret the different research findings.
I remember being in middle and high school in Guam when the CHamorus were racist to the Filipinos. My father was CHamoru and my mother is Filipina. So I struggled being mixed. After going to college and learning about Pacific Island migration I had a feeling that the CHamorus came from the Philippines. And now the evidence confirms it. And still there is a person in the comments that refuses to believe the evidence. This person should get over it and grow up. CHamorus didn’t just appear out of thin air. Excellent job Pulan! Keep up the good work.
I am assuming that your question meant "What kind of racism do Filipinos receive from Chamorros?" Well, one statement I have heard Chamorros say is "Go back to your country," or "These people are stealing the locals' jobs." This is in the CNMI, though, so I am not sure if Filipinos experience similar situations in Guam.
It is good to know our ancestors travelled far into the Pacific and within Southeast Asian seas, even before the Europeans. Could be from/within the lands of what is now Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines or Taiwan. They sailed the open seas with fear of the unknown, and still committed/excited to discover new lands for their family. It is one way trip to most. Austronesians..
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@@bythebay2008 exactly ! Language family ! If it were cultural we would cook the same way ... but we don't! We cook like the mesoamericas underground! Why don't any of these Asian places carve out tiki like the Inuit ppl of Alaska? Or aincent tribes of peru ?
@@johnappleseed2558 nah they travel with the language are you poly? Or another islander who always finding ways to make them came from something else? What your ancestor doing? Are they voyager?
@@johnappleseed2558 man what an idiot use your common sense? Don't you believe in evolution? do you know that austronesian are inter-marriage with other race and spend thousand of years before they make another voyage? And also we philippines,indonesia,malaysia was conquered by different races and was influence with other race like indian influence in southeast asia the chinese Han people influence south east asian arab influence south philippines and indonesian and malaysia and some part of papau and the colonial power of dutch and Spain and britain so what you expect? Do you still expect us to cook same as how you cook? Here in my country philippines alone have suffer alot by spain the majority of filipino doesn't even know what our traditions what our dances what we do the only thing we only know some story and history of old filipino who have an indian influence like the story of Raja and datu only but few tribe especially those who live in remote area still doing the old thing like the old Tattoo artist Apo whang od and the tattoo is a symbol of beauty in girl and in the men it symbolise how many people you killed and what your rank in the society
You nailed it. Reading the studies and the hypothesis presented by the researchers you've captured what the evidence suggests. Thank you for the synopsis.
Looking forward to further findings! I’ve longed to learn my culture without any influence of Spanish/European, Japanese and American colonization. I’ve also been thinking our purpose in the Mariana islands is more spiritual than anything else. 👌🏽
@@parisan9985 I agree with this. But without any proof ain’t no telling. Myanmar has a similar custom with hard betel nut and a leaf we call pupulu. Who knows though!
@@SebastianCade Chewing betel nuts with betel leaves is common in all of south and Southeast Asia, it’s even popular amongst the Chinese that are living in Taiwan and Southeast Asia. Vietnamese people may seem very similar to the Chinese people, but there are many Vietnamese traditions that are native to Southeast Asia and chewing betel nuts is one of them, but for some reason it’s only chewed by women in Vietnam.
Very interesting, i always believe that Guam in Pre-Spanish must farm paddy brought from Philippine, Borneo or Sulawesi but later older generation cannot past knowledge to younger generation because climate or land become not fertile. Madagascar, Malagasy get rice from Borneo and Sumatra, Austronesian was the first introduced paddy and rice to Africa, Can you explain about Guam, Marshall Island and Micronesia why they lost Metal technology, Taiwan/Formosa, Philippine, Borneo , Maluku and coastal of Papua Bird head know to use metal like gold, silver, bronze, copper, brass and zinc to made tools, accessory, crown, weapon, shield and body armor. Did Guam and Micronesia did you any type of Metal at least bronze or brass.
Well on the subject of metallurgy, when the austronesian first left Taiwan they hadn't developed metallurgy yet. The austronesian left Taiwan around 3,500-3,000 BCE, the east Asian bronze age wouldn't begin until approximately 2,000 BCE somewhere in central China. The technology wouldn't spread out further until around 1,300 BCE and only reaching mainland south east Asia around 1,000 BCE and 750 BCE for island south east Asia. One of two things might have happened, rice varieties they had initially didn't survive the long trip to the more remote areas and/or they didn't have the resources to make wet padi field rice cultivation. Dry land rice cultivation is possible, and was historical done in Guam during the latte period but that form of rice cultivation isn't very productive. So things like Taro, Breadfruit and polynesian arrowroot proved to be far more viable in the rest of remote Oceania. The Malagasy of Madagascar made it work because: 1. They had rice varieties that could make the trip or had better storage techniques. 2. The highlands of Madagascar are well suited to grow wet field rice. 3. It should be mentioned that rice can be very picky about the conditions it's grown in and that's with modern technology.
I am a a Maluku Islander and I just have to tell y'all, Indonesia is a Transcontinental Nation and a mixture of Asian and Melanesian especially in the East such as West Papua.In between we have what is nicknamed Wallacea which includes the original Spice Islands,the Maluku Islands including Ambon.This is where you have a. Mixture of Melanesian and Austronesian,same with now Independent Timor Leste 🇹🇱We also have very unique foods over here such as Papeda,Sago,Cassava,Breadfruit,and Taro.And another thing is that We have our own non Malay Austronesian languages called the Central Austronesian languages,and our own Papuan languages Just remember Indonesia is a Transcontinental Nation between Asia and Oceania! *
That is interesting, as a Polynesian, THIS is where I believe we started out. From two DISTINCT peoples, the Papuan type people and the "East Asian"'Austronesians. They mixed then moved onto Polynesia. I feel like people we call "Micronesians" took a northern route, while the "Polynesians" went east.
@@keokikahumokukoa8832 Us Moluccans and the people of the neighboring islands of "Wallacea" such as the Timorese are also a mixture of Papuan and Austronesian.We happen to be descendants of your ancestors who after the mixing and mingling never left but stopped in Wallacea. AncestryDNA also interestingly showed me and my full blood Ambonese Moluccan mother to have Polynesian ancestry too,in both of us specifically Samoan.I think there was also back migrations as well.Whats crazier is on AncestryDNA my mother still has genetic cousins there as far as Samoa,Tonga,and even Hawaii.I still also believe it was in Wallacea specifically North Maluku or Northwest Papua that the origins of the Oceanian Austronesian languages came to be.Here is a intriguing video about this topic called Crossing the Wallace Line ruclips.net/video/cvWDO4QSMuQ/видео.html
@@keokikahumokukoa8832 that’s my exact same theory, some Polys went back and went on the route the Micronesians went and eventually settled and intermingled with the populations of those islands (Pohnpei🇫🇲, Nauru🇳🇷, Kiribati🇰🇮)
But the mollucas and suluwesi (at least the northern parts) speaks a philippine type language like the gorontalo and mangondaw. Its like northern populationa (philippines) met the from the south (indonesia)
@@markv1974 Nope.The Indigineous languages of Maluku and Timor belong to the Central Austronesian and Papuan language families.Central Austronesian languages sound very similar to Polynesian ones.The name of my ancestral village is Hulaliu.The surnames Latu and Lomu are also common in Maluku AND Polynesia.
I got curious about Guam when I came across a video about their language and noticed that we have similar words. We were both colonized by Spain and have so much in common. I was glad to know that we have another brother nearby. I didn’t expect to see so much repulsiveness from the Chamorros. I get where they’re coming from. Some people can be so imposing and immediately labels them as something they don’t identify with. Guys don’t worry, you’re always gonna be Chamorros. But isn’t it common knowledge that we will have the same ancestors considering the proximity of our countries? It’s quite saddening since Chamorros are like our long-lost brothers. Why can’t we just let it all go and live in harmony? The similar things we went through should make us closer actually. All this back-and-forth leads to nothing.
That’s what I wanna know who were the people on Guam before the Spaniard invasion..cuz last time I check the people on Guam called the half breed Chamorros..
If they are anything like the other austronesian, some combination of ancestor worship and nature focus dualistic cosmology. Sky father and earth mother type of motif, in how they relate to each other controlling nature.
Qatuan=Tuhan, Atua=divine deity Qanitu=Hantu, anito, aitu= spirit of dead Sumanged=Semangat,Mana=Spirit, or soul Hyang(Malaysia-Indonesia=ancestral or nature deity, sembah hyang
@@parisan9985 I'm not so sure about the Mana and Semangat connection, Mana isn't analogous to soul more spiritual power or shared spiritual connection.
@Anthony Ngu yeah, I'd also re check the definition. The mana concept was an Oceanian motif originated from Proto Oceanic speakers. It doesn't exist in other Austronesian speaking words. I thought the word Semangat, Sumangad and Mana sounded similar and thus a cognate.
That’s correct. Source from Antonio Pigafetta scribe 1521. Magellan galleon ships even met a flotilla of balangays between Guam & Leyte. The design of karakoas ancient war boat is similar to boat designs in Hawaii.
CJL, the natives from Guam probably knew that there were fierce warriors in one of the island of the Philippines & told the conquistadores to sail to the Philippines . Magellan was killed during their skirmish with the native warriors lead by Lapu Lapu.
There were over 10 thousand charred rice grains found at archeology sites in Southern Taiwan dating back to 3000 BCE. The grains were of similar sizes, and were found along side pottery, charred grains of millet, and shark bones. Rice cultivation and planned agriculture were already common in Taiwan around the same time if not earlier than our PAN speaking ancestors began making their early voyages to the Philippines. Rice cultivation in the Marianas could have been introduced by the initial wave of settlers.
@@parisan9985 When those grains of rice were grown, Taiwan had been separated from mainland Asia for over 5,000 years since the end of the last glacial period 10,000 years ago. So if rice farming in both Taiwan and Southern coastal China are related, it's most likely that early Austronesian people in Taiwan, whose language, culture, customs, and technology had evolved differently from groups of people closest related to them at that point, developed the ability to sail on the open ocean, and went to China and picked up new technologies such as rice farming. In fact they definitely were able to sail across the Taiwan strait because stone artifacts, coffins, and building materials found in sites around Taidong from that period were made quarried from the Pegnhu islands. So early Austronesians living on the East coast of Taiwan were able to access stone quarries from islands on the West of Taiwan. At the same time, ancient Austronesians living in Taidong were making jade ornaments using jade that can only be found in that area. They were exporting these jewellery from Taidong to the Philippines and Vietnam around 5,000 years ago. I've read that if rice was introduced from the Asia mainland, it's more likely to have come from the Zhujiang delta. I wouldn't be surprised if it actually came from Vietnam, since jade-ware made in Taiwan was discovered there.
@@parisan9985 By the way, Sagart has proposed that the there are several linguistic innovations in Taiwan that created different branches from PAN. Original PAN used *RaCep for 5. There are 4 Formosan languages that don't share the innovation below. The first branch, called Pituish began using pitu for 7, which is abbreviated from *RaCepituSa, 5+2. Under that brach, we have another split that replaced the original word for 5, *RaCep, with the word for hand, lima. This branch is called Limaish. The original PAN formed 6 with 5+1 or 2*3, which can still be heard in the Saisiyat and Altayal languages. Under Limaish, there is another branch that began forming 6 by repeating 3 twice, *Nem-Nem > *emnem, and this sub-branch is called Enemish. Under the Enemish branch we again see another split called Walu-Siwaish, which formed 8 and 9 as *RaCepat(e)lu ‘five-and-three’ and *RaCepiSepat ‘five-and-four’. With 10 we have another split, one such as Kavalan uses *baCaq-an as 10, and the other branch, Puluquish, forms 10 as *sa-puluq, from *sa- ‘one’ + ‘separate, set aside’. From here, several none number related innovation took place in the southernmost part of Taiwan, such as *baqbaq ‘mouth’, *qa-sáuŋ ‘canine tooth’, *qi(d)zúR ‘saliva’, *píntu ‘door’, *-ŋel ‘deaf’. This branch is called southern Austronesian. This is the branch of Austronesians that began expanding out of Taiwan, and they didn't just go South. Instead, a group of these Southern Austronesian speakers went West and resettled on the Asian mainland and their language evolved into the Kra-Dai languages. This might be how rice was introduced to Taiwan, by these Westward explorers returning with their findings to Taiwan.
Previously on 23andMe, they listed my background as from the Mariana Islands until their genetic pool increased and many of the Chamorros we know now show us as from the Philippines from the Central Luzon area.
not because you are talking english that makes you 100% American. In some way, Nope.... its in the genes bro. im telling you Its in our blood Is eyes in chamorro may define as eyes too ????? I leave it here...
Si Yu’os ma’åse’ Marie! I always hope that my videos can help people living off island to learn about our cultural heritage and history. So I’m very happy that you told me that my videos are inspirational 😊
I’m Indonesian and one time, I forgot when it was, I was mistaken for a Filipino by a Taiwanese aboriginal person who a Samoan thought was Filipino who I thought was Filipino 🤦🏻♂️ So basically I thought the Polynesian was Filipino and he thought the aboriginal was Filipino and that person thought I was Filipino
@Pares Racer & Ramen Rider Majority of Filipinos are more closely related to the people of Sulawesi, Borneo, and Eastern Java, than to Aboriginal Taiwanese. Aboriginal Taiwanese are more closely related to the Igorots.
@Pares Racer & Ramen Rider Majority of Filipinos are more closely related to the people of Sulawesi, Borneo, and Eastern Java, than to Aboriginal Taiwanese. Only the Igorots (and Ivatans) are closely related to the Aboriginal Taiwanese (both cultural and physical appearance).
@Pares Racer & Ramen Rider Off course Igorots are Filipinos. They are the same. But there are hints that show that makes them closer to separate people groups.
It's so interesting!!! What if the genetics were similar to native Americans when the Siberians mixed with Mongolians created their DNA based on human evolution. So what if we we're sulawesi mixed with central Filipino? That created this Unique DNA:)
@@illoc tangentially a bunch of austronesian ethnicities have myths about dark skinned short statured people with special skills or are just straightup magical (by extension take care of places important as a food source in the wild.
Genetic information certainly gives more reliable information about origens. Didn't know Filipinos were probable ancestors of Mariana islanders. Additional migrations confuse issue but many people migrate throughout history,none more so than currently.
Hi @Pulanspeaks sulawesi and molluccas are parts of ibdonesia now but their populations are filipino- speaking languages part of the Philippine languages. So chammoros are from Philippine populations
As someone with background from the Philippines.. Austronesian is too broad a term. Micronesia(small islands), Melanesia (dark islands) & Polynesia (many islands) are the best way for people of Pacific Island background to identify & to a much lesser extent South East Asian or maritime South East Asian descent. Philippines, Malaysians and Indonesians, Taiwanese ARE South East Asian... as you get into West Papua & Papua New Guinea which are Melanesia (the dark skinned islanders) and indeed further on to Micronesia which the video describes (the small islands) & Polynesia. But instead of grouping them all as Austronesian they are better identified as I described.
The evidence to Philipines is beacuse most of this Chamorro people has Filipino blood. So if u take DNA from Chamorro without Filipino blood then it will point to Spain which is the nearest after Filipino to the Chamorro line. Then if u go deeper before the Spanish maybe again it points to Philipinnes or Sulawesi or out of thin air
I’ve seen evidence of ancient Indonesia ruins and the ruins of nan maldol in Palau have exactly the same shapes of basalt rock colums also similar stones at the Indonesian ruins are similar to latte stones make me think about the latte stones where symbolic to remember their culture after migrating to Guam
Pottery was brought to the marianas by the spanish Portuguese. They collected ancient artifacts from the phillipines and brought them to the Marianas along with filipinos.
@@guahunai3308 the potteries are older than that, what are you even talking about? Geologists are not that dumb. They do carbon dating and other material comparisons with what was available in the area.
@@hentypechammoros are racist against filipinos it seems. Most of them want to be linked to any other maphilindo nation or any other nation except the philippines 😅😅. Most of the chammoro posts here seem to be in denial of being descended from filipinos. They claim to be be from indonesia like suluwesi but Suluwesi people like gorontalo and mangondaw speaks philippine type languages and the ethnic tribe living in them can also be found in mindanao 😅😅😅😅. Dont worry if you deny us we deny you too. You can try moving to indonesia when sea levels rise and your islands sink😅. Fun trivia. My ancestors are from borneo but they moved back east to panay in the central islands. Burnay and panay were in alliance since 800 ce (older than the luzon - java alliance).. Thousands of filipinos (lucuos) assisted in the defense of melaka and acted as temenggong and laksamanas in aceh and other islands. Rajah matanda of luzon was laksama (admiral) of the bruneian fleets. When the europeans conquered the philippines those filipino populations got stuck in malaysia and indonesia.. so when your chammoro genetic test show indoesia -- how can tou be sure you’re not reflecting on a stuck population kf ancient lucoes which forms parts of the modern indonesian and malaysian populations? 😅😅
In your other previous video, you explained about Ulitawo and that is the term in Bisaya, language in central Philippines, who is single male teenager I said to myself what a surprising connection
I'm Māori, your Chamorro people have more genetic affinity with Indonesians, Cambodians and Thais than with us Austronesian Islander . greetings from NZ
No, they're more closely related to Filipinos than Indonesians. most Western Indonesians are Austroasiatic by genes but Austronesian by languages. Only related to Eastern ones like Buginese and Torajans, are Austronesian genetically like Filipinos and Chamorrus.
What are filioinos called before spain ever landed in Asia. Chamorro language is close related to sulawesi, Netherlands dug up an old chamorro dictionary presented at UOG dated to Constantinople times written by a priest trying to convert our indigenous chamorros to Christianity. When they studied the words chamorros used back then it is related to Indonesians. Filioi is have been on the Marianas since Magellan so it makes sense that their form of language mixed with ours due to ueveryone trying to communicate with each other later creating a big confusion of identification and commonality.
The Chamorro language is part of Sunda-Sulawesi branch of Austronesian family. The branch is spoken primarily in Indonesia and Malaysia which supports the -came from Indonesia- hypothesis.
While on Guam, there was stories that the Chamorro actually had been there before a great rising of the ocean. Coming from listening to tales from a suruhana from MongMong.
The original names of each of the Marianas Islands and some village names may have been named using ancient Hebrew & Aramaic languages. I have found in my personal research into the origin names of the islands that two ancient Hebrew and/or Aramaic words combined together were possibly used to invent and create the original island and/or village names.
Great video. Archeological evidence are compelling. As for the genetic mystery, I'm skeptical about the diversified group of people settling in the marianas in harmony in those times. One has to wonder what would force a group of people to migrate the vast ocean for new home?
@@pulanspeaks historically, mass migration with risks and uncertainty tends to happen during crisis, such as government oppression, extreme climate conditions, war and etc. pilgrims fled europe from religious persecution, irish fled ireland due to potato famine, african refugee crisis 20 years ago(?) due to drought, cubans fled fidel castro, current syrian refugee crisis from war, etc, etc. I'm curious as to what was happening in the world during those times.
I should have watched this a long time ago. Si Yuos Maase Pulan. I'm also curious about the CHamoru connection with the Native Americans. I've heard of a trek north from Asia to the Bering Sea and thru the Aleutian Islands to Alaska and south thru the Americas.
It's a capital letter distinguishing nouns such as a person place or thing. The pronunciation of CH and tch are spelled the same and only used when writing obviously. CHelu (sibling) chålan (road). Now I've learned to speak and write my native language at home and may have a 30% difference compared to the more modern standardized language structure which had gone through many changes since before the Spanish incursion, the Japanese as well as the English language but I think I'm on the right track. @pulanspeaks Guåhu si Migeht Naputi. Maolek yan fitmi i sinagan mu put ginen månu mågi i māna naita ya målagu yu na baihu ke tungu mås put i Taotao Mo'na siha ya puedi ha ti tafan måleffa nu i kutturan i Man CHamoru . Si Yu'us Maase Siniot Pulan ya Biba Guåhån yan i CHamoru.
Watching all your videos now. Great content and research. Thank you for your time. Can u make a video on the weaponry? It seems as tho we were hunter/gatherers however there are stories of navigational and geometric advances in the culture.
We were looking for uninhabited lands. We already knew Australia was inhabited just like how our ancestors migrated thru Melanesia(Papua NG) & kept going instead of staying. Some did stay behind those that intermarried with local Melanesians but we surely kept going.
Their looks today does not tell us about who they were then. They have been colonized way more than other Micronesians for hundreds of years. First by spain & then by Americans.
What about the latte stone in Indonesia that call ratte stone that are use for burial monument cuz in marianas island they use the latte stone for house foundation and it part of burial monument too
I am curious as to why it is titled Proto- Malaysian "Polynesian" ? To not be disrespectful to "Polynesians", but it is my understanding that the Polynesians are the youngest group of people that settled in the Pacific island region. Therefore, how does the youngest group be the identifier of groups preceding them: both linguistically, genetically and historically?
Malayo-Polynesian covers all Austronesians who are outside taiwan because Taiwanese austronesians are a lot different than Malayo-Polynesians. You can further divide Malayo-Polynesians into smaller groups such as Polynesians, Micronesians, Philippine(North, Central etc.) , Malayic and many more.
@@ylntsdynp251 Yup.Wallaceans like us Moluccans are another sub group you can say,and the Melanesians who are actually mixed with Austronesian and speak the languages
I have personally researched on the archeological evidence in Taiwan for years, and I discovered there are three places during the "Kingdom of Dadu" in Taiwan central and western area that are actually related to the ancient civilization of Babylon post flood era based on the archeological evidence of pottery patterns and metallic remains that have been discoverered by local Taiwan scholars over the years, and they realized its resemblance in cultural similarity with the Mesopotamia river-basins of ancient Babylon. Including the snake symbols & tattoos and color patterns of the aboriginal tribal custumes in its designs were almost identical as those of ancient Babylon when the collapse of Tower of Babel post-flood took place. The ethnic group Batuan (pronounced like Dadu in Mandarin) may have immigrated to the Philippine Islands at the same time. The Huiwen ruins in Taichung City, Shisanhang in New Taipei City, and all the way to Sanxian Cave in Taitung have been excavated with the possible traces and remains of pottery and metal pieces from Dadu Kingdom gradually moving towards the South Pacific Islands. The historical footprint of the language were of the same origin for the Austronesian migrants across the South Pacific islands even as far as Indian Ocean. The Minor Ice Age eventually led to the rise of sea levels in the Age of Discovery with Portugal & Spain, it was the main reason why the people of the Dadu Kingdom gradually moved from the island of Taiwan to the Philippines due to the global climate changes. ONE important findings was a Bible translation to ancient Saisia tribal in Taiwan by the Dutch missionaries back in 1600s.
There's a tribe in Taiwan called "tao" (people). Most groups in the Philippines use the word "tao" for people. Some tribes have "tao" in their name. In Ilocano, the word for people is "tattao" Very similar to "taotao"
@@shenglongisback4688 our greetings are almost similar too. Samoan: manuia le po Chuukese: nepong annim Samoan: manuia le aso Chuukese: ne olowas annim Nouns: Women: Samoan: fafine Chuukese: fefin
@@faanengaaw7357 kinda of the fefin the closer in modern context.. Cause these are written examples Many Samoans would say No. Only if i could hear audio.. But such an interesting topic Thank you for replying
what are the chances that the pottery in the Marianas originated from the results of lost ships (to storms/typhons). How can we tell the pottery was created in the Marianas. Also, upon pottery getting washed up to the Mariana islands, then the locals copied what they discovered.
@@giovannicollazo-cruz2193 so water buffaloes were introduced during colonial times? Because i can't find any sources that state clearly the timeline of their introduction.
@@ANTSEMUT1 maybe ? I know there are Asian Buffalos on Mainland Asia. I also know that Mozzarella is European and is made of Water Buffalo milk. So not too sure
@@minim6981 ok cool thanks, i ask because testing the dna of livestock the respective founding people's brought over can also reveal where they sailed from.
Because Austronesian are from southern China , at that time China isn't exist austronesian at Chinese today are different to each other , Austronesian spread out to Taiwan Philippines who built rice terraces farming the oldest rice terraces , Some Malaysian and Indonesian are also migrated to Visayas island that's why they are almost same face .
@@Moonsul2178 I see, but, the Islamic world are seafaring too. They could’ve, possibly introduced later on. The Muslims in the middle east may not have known about the austronesian islands, but I’m assuming the southeast Asian Muslims were aware of the South Pacific Islands. Maybe I’m getting this all wrong.
ya... filipino love island. even today 2022 there are still filipino live in the sea or small island in phil. i dont know why. perhaps it is in their dna.
@@petet5401 although my point was more comparing their respective east Asian admixture rather than their melanesian admixture. The melanesian admixture is a lot more clear than the east Asian component, which broadly shows austronesian origin but not anything specific.
@@giovannicollazo-cruz2193 exactly. I remember the guys from Papua New Guinea at festpac and many looked like Palauans. No shade to my boys from Koror.
This is a delicate subject. If your referring to the ancient times and people you cannot say we migrated from phillipines because during the time frame it was never called phillipines until Spain conquered the chain of islands. So now everyone in the phillipines is on their high horse claiming our ancestral people. We must find out who and what we're the names of these places our Chamoru ancestors migrated out of during the migration time frame.
We obviously use 21st century names. Like when he says Chamorros migrated to Guam. It wasn’t called Guam way back then. And Indonesia wasn’t called Indonesia either (that’s a Greek term). You clearly just have a problem with being related to Filipinos. Just admit it
@@minim6981 sure do you cannot reference filipinos to ancient times only after Spain. Tribes I can see. Malaysian sultans and Indonesian sultans ruled those chains of islands. Current filipinos are good people you just can't say that the ancient chamorro people came from present day phillipines
@@minim6981you must be from the phillipines that you are bothered by the ancient chamorros not referencing to your ethnic background. Common that you want to claim and take credit for you have no rights to.
@@minim6981 chamorros have always been identified as chamorros even before migrating to Guahan. Nobody is 100% blood today, I have no problem with filipinos, I have a problem with information that is misleading. I have alot of filipino friends that agree with their ancestral history both northern and southern side of current phillipines. I think you have a problem with my ancestors not related to current phillipines. Teach me about your history and maybe we can find a relation to both our ancestors.
@@guahunai3308 Chamorros have not always been identified as Chamorros. Chamorro is a Spanish word. Chamorros were Taotao tano. Taotao means “people” In almost all the languages of the Philippines, “tao” means “people” In Ilocano, the word is “tattao” That’s not a coincidence. We come from the same “tao” we just moved to different places
@@Miss_Hannah Dont let that Javanese Colonizer try to erase the mixed Heritage of Pacific Austronesians.Almost all Pacific Austronesians including those of Eastern Indonesia (East of the Wallace Line) have Papuan Admixtures.Even Sulawesi has it too.
Taiwan although the origins of austronesia has been highly synicized Chinesed because of the Han Chinese displacing the Taiwanese austronesian tribe which explains Taiwanese has Chinese and no longer austronesian features.
Buenas che'lu. Hunggan, in the CNMI, it's spelled "Chamorro" according to the CNMI orthography. However, Guam uses a different orthography than the CNMI, and according to Guam's orthography it's spelled "CHamoru."
@4KB...Hafa Adai i'm originally from Guam and yup the changing of Chamorro to Chamoru is one of the strangest things they did in Guam. Next thing they'll be changing the name of Guam and the Guam Flag Design too.
I’m not sure the land of Mu even existed! And if it did, then the CHamorus likely did not originate from there cause I believe according to the myth, the land of Mu sunk thousands of years before the settlement of the Marianas.
The more professors and people that know everything reference chamorros to phillipines should get their degree taken from them. What was the name of these group of islands before spain conqured phillipines. Once this is established then you can reference our ancestors from that tribe and or place.
So if you're opposed to saying "Philippines" because that's not the original name, then why are you saying "Chamorro"? That's not the original name either. Guam isn't the original name. "Micronesia" is a Greek word. I guess we can't use any modern terms anymore
ruclips.net/video/Ymh7IVqLrnI/видео.html Your ancestors are Chinese malaysian. My ancestors are probably from the same place but not labeled filipino. Chamorros have always been identified as Chamorros.
@@guahunai3308 nope. Check the Austronesian migration. Filipinos came from the same wave of people as all Austronesians. Also, Chamorros have not always been known as Chamorros. That’s a Spanish word. Taotao tano (people of the land) is the original name. And “tao” means “people” in almost every Filipino language. The word in Ilocano (Northern Philippines) is “tattao” That’s not a coincidence
Hello i am of chomorro decent & one one side of my family the Garrido’s we are well respected in Spain as Spain’s warriors. Also we found out through dna tested from my great uncle that we actually descended from Indonesia & not the Philippines 🤙🏽
Which part of indonesia tho? If from suluwesi then its philippines because the suluwesi speaks philippine type languages (until most were displaced by javanese and malay)
Take the DNA of the Sorsoganon's and you'll find out whose the closest relative the Marianans were. I am solidly sure as the language of sorsoganon spread up to Palawan of Tagbanua's very close as the Sorsoganons as the sea fearing people. Pls try to research more for this. The Sorsoganons knew Yahwah well, only the curse him, but why, for what reason? There must something happened long time ago that made them so mad with the "Creator".
Interesting more, is the Latte, and like Nan Madol in Pohnpei. I know elders told us that Taga built the Latte. But with all the megaligths in the world, I’m thinking a different type of terrestrial being. History is very interesting.
The Latte Stones design and to a lesser extent the construction methods of Nan Madol, still very much reflect ISEA austronesian design philosophies. Don't give me none of this it was aliens bullshit, humans are more than capable to make these structures.
@@ANTSEMUT1 Not homo sapiens, maybe some other type of beings. Who knows who made it. Every stone work that dates back thousands of years are proven to be constructed with a way more advance technology than that of human’s.
@@lwf5205 Stfu... are you really hating on the capabilities of your own people... oH wE aRe ToO dUmb To DeSiGn ThEsE tHiNgS iT mUsT Be AlEiNs BrOwN iSlaNdErS wErE jUsT sLaVeS. Latte like structures can be found all over here in south east Asia, as granaries, meeting areas and ceremonial platforms. You can find Nan Madol type construction can be found in Taiwan and Jomon period southern Japan.
No.... it's defends on the area of Pacific island where HEAVILY settled by Ancient Austronesian from what is now Filipino because not all Pacific island was occupied by Ancient Austronesian(Filipino). Austronesian is refers to language Family rather than bloodline ancestry that's reason why Austronesian speaking people look so different because Language Family is different from bloodline ancestry. When it comes Austronesian is race bloodline ancestry NOT a languages family, People of the Philippines play an important role because the country was both ethnically and linguistically Austronesian and Austronesian people is belong mongoloid race, but AGAIN Austronesian refers to the language Family rather bloodline ancestry that's reason why Austronesian speaking people look so different because language Family is different from bloodline ancestry...When it comes to bloodline ancestry, people of the Philippines was highest genetics of Austronesian ancestry among the other Austronesian speaking peoples because Philippines is home different Austronesian languages and house of Austronesian people SURPRISE SURPRISE people from Northern Philippines to Southern Philippines sharing with same physical appearance because they belong with same ancestors... over 90% of the Philippines population are Predominantly Austronesian both linguistically and ethnically
My ass my ancestor is ukudu daggua which is from Papua new guinea what u talking bout ? He was given the name taitano because he had no land learn more my friend , there's even a high school in guam named after him open your mind More my man
I like the point you’re making in the end of the video. Remember that right now the Marianas is a cross roads. In the Japanese Era (of the NMI), the Spanish Era, the American Naval Era, we were crossroads. Go to the history of the Austronesians and you understand how amazing they were at sailing. I’d bet money that austronesians from all over what is now Indonesia and PI were making stops in the Marianas for trade and settlement
If not the initially peopleing, then definitely during the Latte period shows some effort to for all those population to intermingle regularly.
Amazing information. Thanks Pulan!
@A J lol Hawaii is North Pacific. Micronesia is western Pacific
Thanks for this video! Very interesting! I'm so glad we're getting more and more interesting videos around the history of Austronesian migrations and diversity. I'm from the Philippines and I love seeing the movements our shared Austronesian ancestors made. I hope more Filipinos and Indonesians see this too, seems everyone here in Southeast Asia has sipped the "Asians aren't related to Pacific islanders" kool aid from mainstream media. Most here don't even know what the word "Austronesian" means. I hope the CHamoru people are more aware overall of our shared Austronesian origins, it's so fascinating. More power to your channel and research! :)
Thankfully in Eastern Indonesia (Maluku,Papua,NTT) we always know ourselves as Indigineous Islanders!Melanesians specifically but we understand and acknowledge the Polynesian connection as well.This is in spite the modern nation of Indonesia that is ruled by Java island trying to force it's Asian identity onto the Indigineous Ancient Melanesians of Eastern "Indonesia"!
Ps a little known fact,the islands of West Papua,Maluku,and East Timor NEVER willingly joined "Indonesia".They were all "annexed" by dubious means against most of the locals will.This is something never taught by modern Indonesia,and even sadly they never even teach that the native Oceanian Melanesians still even exist in the Eastern Islands.Eastern Indonesia is now a remote and impoverished region,the most so in the area with hundreds and thousands of totally unique and endemic languages, cultures,and even Animals and Plants.The region is also nicknamed "Wallacea" because of the Scientist Alfred Wallace work in the region and discovery of the invisible Wallace Line in the region that separates Asian and Australian Flora and Fauna,and arguably cultures and people's.The more you know..
Exactly. I'm originally from the Philippines (when I was very young) but grew up here in Australia. You are 100% correct, most Filipino see themselves as pure Asians or more related to our Spanish influence when in fact, Spanish was mainly a Culture evolvement and not genetic. Not demeaning our Spanish history or connecions or anything here of course, however, I see and hear so many Filipinos claim to be mixed Spanish when statistcally there is only under 4% of Filipinos have Spanish bloodline. We are more closer to our Austronesian forefathers.
Don't get me wrong as I'm still proud to be called Filipino but I think we are a little dillusional sometimes when it comes down to bloodline & who we really are as peope. It's almost similar to the 'South Africans Coloured people' situation. We almost have a identify crisis because we are in Asia, with strong Austronesians bloodline (hence we are mostly darker than our Asian neighbours) and we have this overpowering Spanish culture.
I do hope that we embrace our true genetical backgrund as I feel this is very important. I have a question though, do Filipino Negritos or Aetas come from Taiwanese Austronesian bloodline also or is this another topic? I would love to find out more as I am reading many different history about this.
@@gpl992 Oh I know a little about your history and my heart breaks for the West Papuan peope. I have many Indonesian friends also but my gosh, the poor people from West Papua. So correct me if I'm wrong but how the Maori people from New Zealand are the original peopel of NZ, isn't West Papua the original peoples of Indonesia also?
I've been binge-watching your Videos. Very informative about our common ancestors, the Austronesians.
Only Filipinos and Malaysians
Indo not included
Can’t wait for more studies to be done. Still a lot more to learn from our past !
I can’t wait too!
Austronesian heritage
1. Pottery
2. The drug inducing betel nut
3. Terraced farming
4. Textile waving
5. Crops such as taro, coconut, banana
6. Linguistic Words such as mata (eye), lima (five)
Apparently polynesians are now saying our potteries only washed up on their shores by cooncidence and that they are actually Amerindians because… they eat yams
Lima Gang unite! 🖐️
@@ginoangeles5260 sumatra ppl eat yam, in java we called it muntul
@@ginoangeles5260 wtf, they just low balled their abilities
@@ginoangeles5260Maori have never utilised pottery, not in the 800 years since we arrived in Aotearoa and not even before that. show examples that disprove this assertion...
Brilliant! You summarized hours of reading into a very concise, easy to follow, open-ended video. Thank you.
Not sure about the Chamorros but in Yap Island and Palau, the architecture of the houses look very much like traditional houses in Indonesia n south PH. I saw one in Melekeiok, Palau that is very similar with my ethnic house, Batak Toba.
Another excellent video for education and learning! I like how you identify the key points and sources of information, while you encourage people to pursue more ideas. You make a good point that diversity in ancient origins probably is the most logical way to interpret the different research findings.
And thank you for your research! It has helped CHamorus understand a great deal more about their past!
I remember being in middle and high school in Guam when the CHamorus were racist to the Filipinos. My father was CHamoru and my mother is Filipina. So I struggled being mixed. After going to college and learning about Pacific Island migration I had a feeling that the CHamorus came from the Philippines. And now the evidence confirms it. And still there is a person in the comments that refuses to believe the evidence. This person should get over it and grow up. CHamorus didn’t just appear out of thin air. Excellent job Pulan! Keep up the good work.
Can i ask? What kind of racism does filipino face in Chamorro
And dont be naive, God can make anything appear out of thin air.
@@lwf5205, that's true, although the user above meant it as a hyperbole.
I understand your experience as I am multicultural, too. It's sad how it happens from both sides, though. :/
I am assuming that your question meant "What kind of racism do Filipinos receive from Chamorros?" Well, one statement I have heard Chamorros say is "Go back to your country," or "These people are stealing the locals' jobs." This is in the CNMI, though, so I am not sure if Filipinos experience similar situations in Guam.
Your grasp of the subject, your home, amazes me. Please keep the enquiry going…
It is good to know our ancestors travelled far into the Pacific and within Southeast Asian seas, even before the Europeans. Could be from/within the lands of what is now Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines or Taiwan. They sailed the open seas with fear of the unknown, and still committed/excited to discover new lands for their family. It is one way trip to most. Austronesians..
Fact: The term Austronesia is used for a Family of languages not a family of peoples! Get your facts straight !
Austronesian peoples
DescriptionThe Austronesian peoples, sometimes referred to as Austronesian-speaking peoples, are a large group of peoples in Taiwan, Maritime Southeast Asia, Micronesia, coastal New Guinea, Island Melanesia, Polynesia, and Madagascar that speak Austronesian languages. What race are Austronesians?
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They include Taiwanese indigenous peoples, the majority of ethnic groups in Brunei, East Timor, Indonesia, Madagascar, Malaysia, Micronesia, the Philippines, and Polynesia.
@@bythebay2008 exactly ! Language family ! If it were cultural we would cook the same way ... but we don't! We cook like the mesoamericas underground! Why don't any of these Asian places carve out tiki like the Inuit ppl of Alaska? Or aincent tribes of peru ?
@@johnappleseed2558 nah they travel with the language are you poly? Or another islander who always finding ways to make them came from something else?
What your ancestor doing?
Are they voyager?
@@johnappleseed2558 man what an idiot use your common sense? Don't you believe in evolution? do you know that austronesian are inter-marriage with other race and spend thousand of years before they make another voyage?
And also we philippines,indonesia,malaysia was conquered by different races and was influence with other race like indian influence in southeast asia the chinese Han people influence south east asian arab influence south philippines and indonesian and malaysia and some part of papau and the colonial power of dutch and Spain and britain so what you expect? Do you still expect us to cook same as how you cook? Here in my country philippines alone have suffer alot by spain the majority of filipino doesn't even know what our traditions what our dances what we do the only thing we only know some story and history of old filipino who have an indian influence like the story of Raja and datu only but few tribe especially those who live in remote area still doing the old thing like the old Tattoo artist Apo whang od and the tattoo is a symbol of beauty in girl and in the men it symbolise how many people you killed and what your rank in the society
You nailed it. Reading the studies and the hypothesis presented by the researchers you've captured what the evidence suggests. Thank you for the synopsis.
Thank you very much Pete!!
The people who build the 2,000 year old terraces in the Philippines also brought the cultivation technology during their expansion.
You know that out of Taiwan is still theory not history
@@Nagin-zt6sc does pacific have mountains for terrace farming?
@@MehesaWongAtelengyeah a theory that has a lot of scientific backing!
Looking forward to further findings! I’ve longed to learn my culture without any influence of Spanish/European, Japanese and American colonization. I’ve also been thinking our purpose in the Mariana islands is more spiritual than anything else. 👌🏽
Damn, you guys really look Southeast Asian
@@parisan9985 I agree with this. But without any proof ain’t no telling. Myanmar has a similar custom with hard betel nut and a leaf we call pupulu. Who knows though!
@@parisan9985 ....Well Duh,because us Chamorro's are part of The Austronesian Group and we originated out of Indonesia.
@@SebastianCade Chewing betel nuts with betel leaves is common in all of south and Southeast Asia, it’s even popular amongst the Chinese that are living in Taiwan and Southeast Asia.
Vietnamese people may seem very similar to the Chinese people, but there are many Vietnamese traditions that are native to Southeast Asia and chewing betel nuts is one of them, but for some reason it’s only chewed by women in Vietnam.
@@sagittariusone2753Chamorros are not fully Austronesian genetically, many of them have high Melanesian Australoid admixture.
Very interesting, i always believe that Guam in Pre-Spanish must farm paddy brought from Philippine, Borneo or Sulawesi but later older generation cannot past knowledge to younger generation because climate or land become not fertile. Madagascar, Malagasy get rice from Borneo and Sumatra, Austronesian was the first introduced paddy and rice to Africa, Can you explain about Guam, Marshall Island and Micronesia why they lost Metal technology, Taiwan/Formosa, Philippine, Borneo , Maluku and coastal of Papua Bird head know to use metal like gold, silver, bronze, copper, brass and zinc to made tools, accessory, crown, weapon, shield and body armor. Did Guam and Micronesia did you any type of Metal at least bronze or brass.
Yes!!!
Well on the subject of metallurgy, when the austronesian first left Taiwan they hadn't developed metallurgy yet. The austronesian left Taiwan around 3,500-3,000 BCE, the east Asian bronze age wouldn't begin until approximately 2,000 BCE somewhere in central China. The technology wouldn't spread out further until around 1,300 BCE and only reaching mainland south east Asia around 1,000 BCE and 750 BCE for island south east Asia.
One of two things might have happened, rice varieties they had initially didn't survive the long trip to the more remote areas and/or they didn't have the resources to make wet padi field rice cultivation. Dry land rice cultivation is possible, and was historical done in Guam during the latte period but that form of rice cultivation isn't very productive. So things like Taro, Breadfruit and polynesian arrowroot proved to be far more viable in the rest of remote Oceania.
The Malagasy of Madagascar made it work because:
1. They had rice varieties that could make the trip or had better storage techniques.
2. The highlands of Madagascar are well suited to grow wet field rice.
3. It should be mentioned that rice can be very picky about the conditions it's grown in and that's with modern technology.
@@ANTSEMUT1 And in Eastern Indonesia like Maluku, Papua,and Timor rice isn't grown naturally either!
I am a a Maluku Islander and I just have to tell y'all, Indonesia is a Transcontinental Nation and a mixture of Asian and Melanesian especially in the East such as West Papua.In between we have what is nicknamed Wallacea which includes the original Spice Islands,the Maluku Islands including Ambon.This is where you have a. Mixture of Melanesian and Austronesian,same with now Independent Timor Leste 🇹🇱We also have very unique foods over here such as Papeda,Sago,Cassava,Breadfruit,and Taro.And another thing is that We have our own non Malay Austronesian languages called the Central Austronesian languages,and our own Papuan languages Just remember Indonesia is a Transcontinental Nation between Asia and Oceania!
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That is interesting, as a Polynesian, THIS is where I believe we started out. From two DISTINCT peoples, the Papuan type people and the "East Asian"'Austronesians. They mixed then moved onto Polynesia. I feel like people we call "Micronesians" took a northern route, while the "Polynesians" went east.
@@keokikahumokukoa8832 Us Moluccans and the people of the neighboring islands of "Wallacea" such as the Timorese are also a mixture of Papuan and Austronesian.We happen to be descendants of your ancestors who after the mixing and mingling never left but stopped in Wallacea. AncestryDNA also interestingly showed me and my full blood Ambonese Moluccan mother to have Polynesian ancestry too,in both of us specifically Samoan.I think there was also back migrations as well.Whats crazier is on AncestryDNA my mother still has genetic cousins there as far as Samoa,Tonga,and even Hawaii.I still also believe it was in Wallacea specifically North Maluku or Northwest Papua that the origins of the Oceanian Austronesian languages came to be.Here is a intriguing video about this topic called Crossing the Wallace Line
ruclips.net/video/cvWDO4QSMuQ/видео.html
@@keokikahumokukoa8832 that’s my exact same theory, some Polys went back and went on the route the Micronesians went and eventually settled and intermingled with the populations of those islands (Pohnpei🇫🇲, Nauru🇳🇷, Kiribati🇰🇮)
But the mollucas and suluwesi (at least the northern parts) speaks a philippine type language like the gorontalo and mangondaw. Its like northern populationa (philippines) met the from the south (indonesia)
@@markv1974 Nope.The Indigineous languages of Maluku and Timor belong to the Central Austronesian and Papuan language families.Central Austronesian languages sound very similar to Polynesian ones.The name of my ancestral village is Hulaliu.The surnames Latu and Lomu are also common in Maluku AND Polynesia.
I got curious about Guam when I came across a video about their language and noticed that we have similar words. We were both colonized by Spain and have so much in common. I was glad to know that we have another brother nearby. I didn’t expect to see so much repulsiveness from the Chamorros. I get where they’re coming from. Some people can be so imposing and immediately labels them as something they don’t identify with. Guys don’t worry, you’re always gonna be Chamorros. But isn’t it common knowledge that we will have the same ancestors considering the proximity of our countries? It’s quite saddening since Chamorros are like our long-lost brothers. Why can’t we just let it all go and live in harmony? The similar things we went through should make us closer actually. All this back-and-forth leads to nothing.
That’s what I wanna know who were the people on Guam before the Spaniard invasion..cuz last time I check the people on Guam called the half breed Chamorros..
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cool knowing this might help me figure out what deities the ancient chamorus worshipped if they did at all, before missionaries came in.
That’s a good point!
If they are anything like the other austronesian, some combination of ancestor worship and nature focus dualistic cosmology. Sky father and earth mother type of motif, in how they relate to each other controlling nature.
Qatuan=Tuhan, Atua=divine deity
Qanitu=Hantu, anito, aitu= spirit of dead
Sumanged=Semangat,Mana=Spirit, or soul
Hyang(Malaysia-Indonesia=ancestral or nature deity, sembah hyang
@@parisan9985 I'm not so sure about the Mana and Semangat connection, Mana isn't analogous to soul more spiritual power or shared spiritual connection.
@Anthony Ngu yeah, I'd also re check the definition. The mana concept was an Oceanian motif originated from Proto Oceanic speakers. It doesn't exist in other Austronesian speaking words.
I thought the word Semangat, Sumangad and Mana sounded similar and thus a cognate.
Guam people told Magellan to go the east where they came from, which was happen to be the Philippines (Ma'i).
That’s correct. Source from Antonio Pigafetta scribe 1521. Magellan galleon ships even met a flotilla of balangays between Guam & Leyte.
The design of karakoas ancient war boat is similar to boat designs in Hawaii.
CJL, the natives from Guam probably knew that there were fierce warriors in one of the island of the Philippines & told the conquistadores to sail to the Philippines . Magellan was killed during their skirmish with the native warriors lead by Lapu Lapu.
@C J L...The Philippines is not East of Guam.
Ma'i was not the name of the Philippines. Ma'i was Mindoro, not the entire Philippines.
There were over 10 thousand charred rice grains found at archeology sites in Southern Taiwan dating back to 3000 BCE. The grains were of similar sizes, and were found along side pottery, charred grains of millet, and shark bones. Rice cultivation and planned agriculture were already common in Taiwan around the same time if not earlier than our PAN speaking ancestors began making their early voyages to the Philippines. Rice cultivation in the Marianas could have been introduced by the initial wave of settlers.
Does it have anynrelation with the cultures surrounding the Yangtze River delta? Like the Hemudu Culture?
@@parisan9985 When those grains of rice were grown, Taiwan had been separated from mainland Asia for over 5,000 years since the end of the last glacial period 10,000 years ago.
So if rice farming in both Taiwan and Southern coastal China are related, it's most likely that early Austronesian people in Taiwan, whose language, culture, customs, and technology had evolved differently from groups of people closest related to them at that point, developed the ability to sail on the open ocean, and went to China and picked up new technologies such as rice farming.
In fact they definitely were able to sail across the Taiwan strait because stone artifacts, coffins, and building materials found in sites around Taidong from that period were made quarried from the Pegnhu islands. So early Austronesians living on the East coast of Taiwan were able to access stone quarries from islands on the West of Taiwan.
At the same time, ancient Austronesians living in Taidong were making jade ornaments using jade that can only be found in that area. They were exporting these jewellery from Taidong to the Philippines and Vietnam around 5,000 years ago. I've read that if rice was introduced from the Asia mainland, it's more likely to have come from the Zhujiang delta. I wouldn't be surprised if it actually came from Vietnam, since jade-ware made in Taiwan was discovered there.
@@parisan9985 By the way, Sagart has proposed that the there are several linguistic innovations in Taiwan that created different branches from PAN. Original PAN used *RaCep for 5. There are 4 Formosan languages that don't share the innovation below. The first branch, called Pituish began using pitu for 7, which is abbreviated from *RaCepituSa, 5+2. Under that brach, we have another split that replaced the original word for 5, *RaCep, with the word for hand, lima. This branch is called Limaish. The original PAN formed 6 with 5+1 or 2*3, which can still be heard in the Saisiyat and Altayal languages. Under Limaish, there is another branch that began forming 6 by repeating 3 twice, *Nem-Nem > *emnem, and this sub-branch is called Enemish. Under the Enemish branch we again see another split called Walu-Siwaish, which formed 8 and 9 as *RaCepat(e)lu ‘five-and-three’ and *RaCepiSepat ‘five-and-four’. With 10 we have another split, one such as Kavalan uses *baCaq-an as 10, and the other branch, Puluquish, forms 10 as *sa-puluq, from *sa- ‘one’ + ‘separate, set aside’. From here, several none number related innovation took place in the southernmost part of Taiwan, such as *baqbaq ‘mouth’, *qa-sáuŋ ‘canine tooth’, *qi(d)zúR ‘saliva’, *píntu ‘door’, *-ŋel ‘deaf’. This branch is called southern Austronesian.
This is the branch of Austronesians that began expanding out of Taiwan, and they didn't just go South. Instead, a group of these Southern Austronesian speakers went West and resettled on the Asian mainland and their language evolved into the Kra-Dai languages. This might be how rice was introduced to Taiwan, by these Westward explorers returning with their findings to Taiwan.
Our Beloved Austronesian Ancestors .!! ❤❤❤
Very interesting video my friend. Thanks for your continued work and research!
Previously on 23andMe, they listed my background as from the Mariana Islands until their genetic pool increased and many of the Chamorros we know now show us as from the Philippines from the Central Luzon area.
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sakit ng mata ko magbasa.
nakakataba ng puso kasi.
let us move this up!
not because you are talking english that makes you 100% American. In some way, Nope....
its in the genes bro. im telling you
Its in our blood
Is eyes in chamorro may define as eyes too ????? I leave it here...
My ancestry DNA results showed results from Guam , Northern Philippines, Southern Philippines and China.
My Grandfather was from aghana heights Guam.
Very interesting brother. Im Maori, we hardly hear any Micronesian history on my side of the world
@Nagin-zt6sc we Maori have a word for " life force" or "chi" or "prana"
It is "mauri"...
Thank you for creating such an educational channel for taotao tano and everyone. please continue on your with your work Si Yu'os Ma'åse' 😊🤙🏽
Thank you so much for this wonderful comment che’lu! I sincerely appreciate your support 😊
Thanks this is a great video. Keep this up. There is so much fog in our history.
Si Yu’os ma’åse’! I appreciate it!
Your videos are very inspiring for us who are not living on the island 🏝 🇬🇺 ✊🔥❤️
Si Yu’os ma’åse’ Marie! I always hope that my videos can help people living off island to learn about our cultural heritage and history. So I’m very happy that you told me that my videos are inspirational 😊
I’m Indonesian and one time, I forgot when it was, I was mistaken for a Filipino by a Taiwanese aboriginal person who a Samoan thought was Filipino who I thought was Filipino 🤦🏻♂️
So basically I thought the Polynesian was Filipino and he thought the aboriginal was Filipino and that person thought I was Filipino
haha thanks for sharing that's a great story!
lmao 🤣
@Pares Racer & Ramen Rider Majority of Filipinos are more closely related to the people of Sulawesi, Borneo, and Eastern Java, than to Aboriginal Taiwanese.
Aboriginal Taiwanese are more closely related to the Igorots.
@Pares Racer & Ramen Rider Majority of Filipinos are more closely related to the people of Sulawesi, Borneo, and Eastern Java, than to Aboriginal Taiwanese.
Only the Igorots (and Ivatans) are closely related to the Aboriginal Taiwanese (both cultural and physical appearance).
@Pares Racer & Ramen Rider Off course Igorots are Filipinos. They are the same. But there are hints that show that makes them closer to separate people groups.
It's so interesting!!! What if the genetics were similar to native Americans when the Siberians mixed with Mongolians created their DNA based on human evolution. So what if we we're sulawesi mixed with central Filipino? That created this Unique DNA:)
No the orignal Filipinos are black not Siberia Asian
@@Shel230 The blacks you talking about are the Aetas, they're Melanesians, They're different race from Austronesians that came from Taiwan.
@@illoc tangentially a bunch of austronesian ethnicities have myths about dark skinned short statured people with special skills or are just straightup magical (by extension take care of places important as a food source in the wild.
Nah chamorros people look like hispanic
Genetic information certainly gives more reliable information about origens. Didn't know Filipinos were probable ancestors of Mariana islanders. Additional migrations confuse issue but many people migrate throughout history,none more so than currently.
Hi @Pulanspeaks sulawesi and molluccas are parts of ibdonesia now but their populations are filipino- speaking languages part of the Philippine languages. So chammoros are from Philippine populations
As someone with background from the Philippines.. Austronesian is too broad a term. Micronesia(small islands), Melanesia (dark islands) & Polynesia (many islands) are the best way for people of Pacific Island background to identify & to a much lesser extent South East Asian or maritime South East Asian descent. Philippines, Malaysians and Indonesians, Taiwanese ARE South East Asian... as you get into West Papua & Papua New Guinea which are Melanesia (the dark skinned islanders) and indeed further on to Micronesia which the video describes (the small islands) & Polynesia. But instead of grouping them all as Austronesian they are better identified as I described.
The evidence to Philipines is beacuse most of this Chamorro people has Filipino blood. So if u take DNA from Chamorro without Filipino blood then it will point to Spain which is the nearest after Filipino to the Chamorro line. Then if u go deeper before the Spanish maybe again it points to Philipinnes or Sulawesi or out of thin air
I’ve seen evidence of ancient Indonesia ruins and the ruins of nan maldol in Palau have exactly the same shapes of basalt rock colums also similar stones at the Indonesian ruins are similar to latte stones make me think about the latte stones where symbolic to remember their culture after migrating to Guam
They str8 Filipinos bro
@Maloa Fiji lol… Micronesians are str8 Filipino dna my Melanesian Fiji brotha
Lol Nan Madol is no it Palau 🤣🤣🤣
My mistake I meant Panapei
@@da5str1 nahhh my family from Palau looks black they are Melanesian but Micronesian people are very mixed some are part Filipino tho.
Pottery was brought to the marianas by the spanish Portuguese. They collected ancient artifacts from the phillipines and brought them to the Marianas along with filipinos.
Filipinos never stepped foot into the Marianas only until Spanish brought them on their route back to Mexico/ Acapulco route.
@@guahunai3308 the potteries are older than that, what are you even talking about? Geologists are not that dumb. They do carbon dating and other material comparisons with what was available in the area.
@@hentypechammoros are racist against filipinos it seems. Most of them want to be linked to any other maphilindo nation or any other nation except the philippines 😅😅. Most of the chammoro posts here seem to be in denial of being descended from filipinos.
They claim to be be from indonesia like suluwesi but
Suluwesi people like gorontalo and mangondaw speaks philippine type languages and the ethnic tribe living in them can also be found in mindanao 😅😅😅😅.
Dont worry if you deny us we deny you too. You can try moving to indonesia when sea levels rise and your islands sink😅.
Fun trivia. My ancestors are from borneo but they moved back east to panay in the central islands. Burnay and panay were in alliance since 800 ce (older than the luzon - java alliance)..
Thousands of filipinos (lucuos) assisted in the defense of melaka and acted as temenggong and laksamanas in aceh and other islands. Rajah matanda of luzon was laksama (admiral) of the bruneian fleets. When the europeans conquered the philippines those filipino populations got stuck in malaysia and indonesia.. so when your chammoro genetic test show indoesia -- how can tou be sure you’re not reflecting on a stuck population kf ancient lucoes which forms parts of the modern indonesian and malaysian populations? 😅😅
yall do anything to avoid being related to Filipinos. Sorry, but you are
I dont know enough about chamoro people and culture, im filipino and I can say that were are similar when it comes to festivities and food.
In your other previous video, you explained about Ulitawo and that is the term in Bisaya, language in central Philippines, who is single male teenager I said to myself what a surprising connection
I'm Māori, your Chamorro people have more genetic affinity with Indonesians, Cambodians and Thais than with us Austronesian Islander . greetings from NZ
No, they're more closely related to Filipinos than Indonesians. most Western Indonesians are Austroasiatic by genes but Austronesian by languages. Only related to Eastern ones like Buginese and Torajans, are Austronesian genetically like Filipinos and Chamorrus.
What are filioinos called before spain ever landed in Asia. Chamorro language is close related to sulawesi, Netherlands dug up an old chamorro dictionary presented at UOG dated to Constantinople times written by a priest trying to convert our indigenous chamorros to Christianity. When they studied the words chamorros used back then it is related to Indonesians. Filioi is have been on the Marianas since Magellan so it makes sense that their form of language mixed with ours due to ueveryone trying to communicate with each other later creating a big confusion of identification and commonality.
@@parisan9985 ...I think we feel more related to Southeast Indonesians
@@guahunai3308 Ignorant comment
Us Eastern Indonesian such as Moluçcans are a mixture of Austronesian and a Melanesian ancestry
The Chamorro language is part of Sunda-Sulawesi branch of Austronesian family. The branch is spoken primarily in Indonesia and Malaysia which supports the -came from Indonesia- hypothesis.
And the sunda sulawesi languages like mangondaw and gorontalo are part of the wider philippine language group😅.
Really enjoy your videos. Si Yu'us ma'åse!
I am grateful for your support che’lu!
While on Guam, there was stories that the Chamorro actually had been there before a great rising of the ocean. Coming from listening to tales from a suruhana from MongMong.
The original names of each of the Marianas Islands and some village names may have been named using ancient Hebrew & Aramaic languages. I have found in my personal research into the origin names of the islands that two ancient Hebrew and/or Aramaic words combined together were possibly used to invent and create the original island and/or village names.
Simoru in Ilokano northern Philippines means, to follow
Entirely interesting. Now do one for Palau
In Philippines there's some migration , Austronesian , Malaysian , Indonesian ,Negritos , Altaic , tai Kadai , Mongoloid or basal East Asian .
Great video. Archeological evidence are compelling. As for the genetic mystery, I'm skeptical about the diversified group of people settling in the marianas in harmony in those times. One has to wonder what would force a group of people to migrate the vast ocean for new home?
Good question! What are your thoughts on the factors for why people decided to cross the ocean in search of new land?
@@pulanspeaks historically, mass migration with risks and uncertainty tends to happen during crisis, such as government oppression, extreme climate conditions, war and etc. pilgrims fled europe from religious persecution, irish fled ireland due to potato famine, african refugee crisis 20 years ago(?) due to drought, cubans fled fidel castro, current syrian refugee crisis from war, etc, etc. I'm curious as to what was happening in the world during those times.
@@rjmendiolajr Ai magahet I Super Power n materialistic in our Human Government.
I should have watched this a long time ago. Si Yuos Maase Pulan. I'm also curious about the CHamoru connection with the Native Americans. I've heard of a trek north from Asia to the Bering Sea and thru the Aleutian Islands to Alaska and south thru the Americas.
SO INTERESTING!!!
Si Yu'os ma'ase'!
Thank you for sharing good information.
im learning so much! may i ask the significance of the capitalization of the CH in "CHamorus'?
It's a capital letter distinguishing nouns such as a person place or thing. The pronunciation of CH and tch are spelled the same and only used when writing obviously. CHelu (sibling) chålan (road). Now I've learned to speak and write my native language at home and may have a 30% difference compared to the more modern standardized language structure which had gone through many changes since before the Spanish incursion, the Japanese as well as the English language but I think I'm on the right track.
@pulanspeaks Guåhu si Migeht Naputi. Maolek yan fitmi i sinagan mu put ginen månu mågi i māna naita ya målagu yu na baihu ke tungu mås put i Taotao Mo'na siha ya puedi ha ti tafan måleffa nu i kutturan i Man CHamoru . Si Yu'us Maase Siniot Pulan ya Biba Guåhån yan i CHamoru.
Very interesting.we were never taught this in school when I was young. Good job 🤙🤙
Watching all your videos now. Great content and research. Thank you for your time. Can u make a video on the weaponry? It seems as tho we were hunter/gatherers however there are stories of navigational and geometric advances in the culture.
Question? Why did the Polynesians not discover Australia?
Wallace line. Giant deadly insects, komodo dragons etc. our ancestors werent stupid enough to go play woth the wildlife 😅😅.
We were looking for uninhabited lands. We already knew Australia was inhabited just like how our ancestors migrated thru Melanesia(Papua NG) & kept going instead of staying. Some did stay behind those that intermarried with local Melanesians but we surely kept going.
I'm micronesian from chuuk and the guamanians and chamorros have their own distinct look from the entire micronesian family.
We may have different looks but we still are Micronesians/Pacific Islanders 🤙
Their looks today does not tell us about who they were then. They have been colonized way more than other Micronesians for hundreds of years. First by spain & then by Americans.
Talk about the meaning of chamoru. How and when it came to be?
That’s a video idea that I am working on!
Chamorro is a Spanish origin.
What about the latte stone in Indonesia that call ratte stone that are use for burial monument cuz in marianas island they use the latte stone for house foundation and it part of burial monument too
I was going to ask about rice, but it’s covered.
Their food too is very Filipino imo.
I have a question: are we the oldest language in the Oceania?
The languages in New Guinea are far more ancient than the spread of Austronesian languages throughout the Pacific.
@@JcDizon ya the original people of Asia got there way before austronesian people
Came
I am curious as to why it is titled Proto- Malaysian "Polynesian" ? To not be disrespectful to "Polynesians", but it is my understanding that the Polynesians are the youngest group of people that settled in the Pacific island region. Therefore, how does the youngest group be the identifier of groups preceding them: both linguistically, genetically and historically?
Malayo-Polynesian covers all Austronesians who are outside taiwan because Taiwanese austronesians are a lot different than Malayo-Polynesians. You can further divide Malayo-Polynesians into smaller groups such as Polynesians, Micronesians, Philippine(North, Central etc.) , Malayic and many more.
@@ylntsdynp251 Yup.Wallaceans like us Moluccans are another sub group you can say,and the Melanesians who are actually mixed with Austronesian and speak the languages
Hi Chamorus ☺️ happy to know we have more cousins ☺️ nearby ☺️
Hope you guys will get your independence like our cousin Palau did 😊
I have personally researched on the archeological evidence in Taiwan for years, and I discovered there are three places during the "Kingdom of Dadu" in Taiwan central and western area that are actually related to the ancient civilization of Babylon post flood era based on the archeological evidence of pottery patterns and metallic remains that have been discoverered by local Taiwan scholars over the years, and they realized its resemblance in cultural similarity with the Mesopotamia river-basins of ancient Babylon. Including the snake symbols & tattoos and color patterns of the aboriginal tribal custumes in its designs were almost identical as those of ancient Babylon when the collapse of Tower of Babel post-flood took place. The ethnic group Batuan (pronounced like Dadu in Mandarin) may have immigrated to the Philippine Islands at the same time. The Huiwen ruins in Taichung City, Shisanhang in New Taipei City, and all the way to Sanxian Cave in Taitung have been excavated with the possible traces and remains of pottery and metal pieces from Dadu Kingdom gradually moving towards the South Pacific Islands. The historical footprint of the language were of the same origin for the Austronesian migrants across the South Pacific islands even as far as Indian Ocean. The Minor Ice Age eventually led to the rise of sea levels in the Age of Discovery with Portugal & Spain, it was the main reason why the people of the Dadu Kingdom gradually moved from the island of Taiwan to the Philippines due to the global climate changes. ONE important findings was a Bible translation to ancient Saisia tribal in Taiwan by the Dutch missionaries back in 1600s.
The question is how did the Spaniards not ask about how the latte stone was made and moved when they first came to the Marianas?
my understanding is more likely the Philippines and the modern-day Chamorro Guamanians are mixed people of all kinds.
Familian Royal Taga.. 6th generation..lemurian forever.🌠iloveyou. Ty for this.. kp it up..Hu sen guiya..💓🙏
To be specific, i believe all austronesians come from the Yami(Hami) people, which you already jnow what hami means!
There's a tribe in Taiwan called "tao" (people). Most groups in the Philippines use the word "tao" for people. Some tribes have "tao" in their name. In Ilocano, the word for people is "tattao" Very similar to "taotao"
@@minim6981 yup, that's their name as well. Tao/Yami.
Wrong they were aboriginal islander then later the chinese han arrive they are chinese they were not islander like the aboriginal
@@alochoa7057 cite your source please
@@alochoa7057 nowadays taiwan is mostly Chinese. We're talking about before that.
Samoans & Tongans say “TULOU”
Chuukese say “TIROU”
It means “EXCUSE ME”
Do have any more examples im interested in hearing more.
@@shenglongisback4688 our greetings are almost similar too.
Samoan: manuia le po
Chuukese: nepong annim
Samoan: manuia le aso
Chuukese: ne olowas annim
Nouns:
Women:
Samoan: fafine
Chuukese: fefin
@@faanengaaw7357 kinda of the fefin the closer in modern context..
Cause these are written examples
Many Samoans would say No.
Only if i could hear audio..
But such an interesting topic
Thank you for replying
what are the chances that the pottery in the Marianas originated from the results of lost ships (to storms/typhons). How can we tell the pottery was created in the Marianas. Also, upon pottery getting washed up to the Mariana islands, then the locals copied what they discovered.
Carbon dating and comparing the materials to the area. Geologists aren't as dumb as you think, they already accounted for those possibilities.
Pottery sinks.. so i dont see the point of having them being washed ashore from the philippines to the marianas😅
Separately when did the water buffalo turn up in Guam?
Filipinos had them as livestock
@@giovannicollazo-cruz2193 so water buffaloes were introduced during colonial times? Because i can't find any sources that state clearly the timeline of their introduction.
@@ANTSEMUT1 maybe ? I know there are Asian Buffalos on Mainland Asia. I also know that Mozzarella is European and is made of Water Buffalo milk. So not too sure
@@ANTSEMUT1 they’re called carabaos in the Philippines just like they’re called carabaos here. The Spanish brought them from the Philippines
@@minim6981 ok cool thanks, i ask because testing the dna of livestock the respective founding people's brought over can also reveal where they sailed from.
why from begin Taiwan but not from Malaysia, Indonesia or Philipine?
Because Austronesian are from southern China , at that time China isn't exist austronesian at Chinese today are different to each other , Austronesian spread out to Taiwan Philippines who built rice terraces farming the oldest rice terraces , Some Malaysian and Indonesian are also migrated to Visayas island that's why they are almost same face .
It’s interesting how Muslim influence in prevalent in the Indonesian archipelago, but why didn’t it reach the Mariana island chain?
The migrations of austronesian people happened way before the introduction of Islam to the Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia and etc.
@@Moonsul2178 I see, but, the Islamic world are seafaring too. They could’ve, possibly introduced later on. The Muslims in the middle east may not have known about the austronesian islands, but I’m assuming the southeast Asian Muslims were aware of the South Pacific Islands. Maybe I’m getting this all wrong.
ya... filipino love island. even today 2022 there are still filipino live in the sea or small island in phil. i dont know why. perhaps it is in their dna.
Thank you!!!
next to polynesia/melanesi to south america and the americas
Little Lemurians...🥰🤗🌠
All theoretical!!! Show me where the coco bird came from! If not? we need more studies!!!😅😅😅
Lmao. 😅😊😂
How does this compare to the Palauans as they show similar admixture?
Would like to see our other brothers and sisters genealogy studies as well.
I would imagine related to our Melanesian Islanders.
@@petet5401 very possible they are much closer to melanesia than Guam is, so I'd imagine the contribution would be more significant.
@@petet5401 although my point was more comparing their respective east Asian admixture rather than their melanesian admixture. The melanesian admixture is a lot more clear than the east Asian component, which broadly shows austronesian origin but not anything specific.
Yall just had more papuan blood maybe
@@giovannicollazo-cruz2193 exactly. I remember the guys from Papua New Guinea at festpac and many looked like Palauans. No shade to my boys from Koror.
This is a delicate subject. If your referring to the ancient times and people you cannot say we migrated from phillipines because during the time frame it was never called phillipines until Spain conquered the chain of islands. So now everyone in the phillipines is on their high horse claiming our ancestral people. We must find out who and what we're the names of these places our Chamoru ancestors migrated out of during the migration time frame.
We obviously use 21st century names. Like when he says Chamorros migrated to Guam. It wasn’t called Guam way back then. And Indonesia wasn’t called Indonesia either (that’s a Greek term). You clearly just have a problem with being related to Filipinos. Just admit it
@@minim6981 sure do you cannot reference filipinos to ancient times only after Spain. Tribes I can see. Malaysian sultans and Indonesian sultans ruled those chains of islands. Current filipinos are good people you just can't say that the ancient chamorro people came from present day phillipines
@@minim6981you must be from the phillipines that you are bothered by the ancient chamorros not referencing to your ethnic background. Common that you want to claim and take credit for you have no rights to.
@@minim6981 chamorros have always been identified as chamorros even before migrating to Guahan. Nobody is 100% blood today, I have no problem with filipinos, I have a problem with information that is misleading. I have alot of filipino friends that agree with their ancestral history both northern and southern side of current phillipines. I think you have a problem with my ancestors not related to current phillipines. Teach me about your history and maybe we can find a relation to both our ancestors.
@@guahunai3308 Chamorros have not always been identified as Chamorros. Chamorro is a Spanish word. Chamorros were Taotao tano. Taotao means “people” In almost all the languages of the Philippines, “tao” means “people” In Ilocano, the word is “tattao” That’s not a coincidence. We come from the same “tao” we just moved to different places
5000 BCE The NANMAN the Southern Barbarian in China. 4500 BCE YUE and WU become 2 kingdom in Fujian. and they expand to taiwan becomes Ausrtranesian
Pacific Austronesian are actually mixed race
Not really
@@lyd4712 yes
@@Miss_Hannah Dont let that Javanese Colonizer try to erase the mixed Heritage of Pacific Austronesians.Almost all Pacific Austronesians including those of Eastern Indonesia (East of the Wallace Line) have Papuan Admixtures.Even Sulawesi has it too.
Out of Taiwan is still a hypothesis
So is gravity
@@AMM0beatz Different. We cannot "feel" the taiwan
Ahhhhh....Thats why Chammorro language is so different from the rest of the aust languages!
Taiwan although the origins of austronesia has been highly synicized Chinesed because of the Han Chinese displacing the Taiwanese austronesian tribe which explains Taiwanese has Chinese and no longer austronesian features.
God put them there. Period.
Tonga Samoa Lapita from Indonesia through Melanesia not the bs long way round 😅
Par I'm from the island of saipan btw its spelled "Chamorro"
Buenas che'lu. Hunggan, in the CNMI, it's spelled "Chamorro" according to the CNMI orthography. However, Guam uses a different orthography than the CNMI, and according to Guam's orthography it's spelled "CHamoru."
@4KB...Hafa Adai i'm originally from Guam and yup the changing of Chamorro to Chamoru is one of the strangest things they did in Guam.
Next thing they'll be changing the name of Guam and the Guam Flag Design too.
Is that Weird Al?
Then what happen world war 2 spainsh war and the japanes war world 3 what happen to them thats part of the history of gua.
Yeah computer simulated sail boat rides lol
Intiresting Story.
he sounds congested
How about the land of Mu.
I’m not sure the land of Mu even existed! And if it did, then the CHamorus likely did not originate from there cause I believe according to the myth, the land of Mu sunk thousands of years before the settlement of the Marianas.
DNA doesn’t match! Pottery could have been traded or passed on
The more professors and people that know everything reference chamorros to phillipines should get their degree taken from them. What was the name of these group of islands before spain conqured phillipines. Once this is established then you can reference our ancestors from that tribe and or place.
So if you're opposed to saying "Philippines" because that's not the original name, then why are you saying "Chamorro"? That's not the original name either. Guam isn't the original name. "Micronesia" is a Greek word. I guess we can't use any modern terms anymore
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Your ancestors are Chinese malaysian. My ancestors are probably from the same place but not labeled filipino. Chamorros have always been identified as Chamorros.
@@guahunai3308 nope. Check the Austronesian migration. Filipinos came from the same wave of people as all Austronesians. Also, Chamorros have not always been known as Chamorros. That’s a Spanish word. Taotao tano (people of the land) is the original name. And “tao” means “people” in almost every Filipino language. The word in Ilocano (Northern Philippines) is “tattao” That’s not a coincidence
Tf are you talking about
He’s racist against filipinos. He wants to identify chammoros with anyone except filipinos. You can just see it in his posts. 😅
Do you only have one hand? If not why do you always keep one hand hidden?
Hello i am of chomorro decent & one one side of my family the Garrido’s we are well respected in Spain as Spain’s warriors. Also we found out through dna tested from my great uncle that we actually descended from Indonesia & not the Philippines 🤙🏽
Sabrino is a family name for the Garrido’s from Mangilao and Barragada
Which part of indonesia tho? If from suluwesi then its philippines because the suluwesi speaks philippine type languages (until most were displaced by javanese and malay)
Take the DNA of the Sorsoganon's and you'll find out whose the closest relative the Marianans were. I am solidly sure as the language of sorsoganon spread up to Palawan of Tagbanua's very close as the Sorsoganons as the sea fearing people. Pls try to research more for this. The Sorsoganons knew Yahwah well, only the curse him, but why, for what reason? There must something happened long time ago that made them so mad with the "Creator".
Interesting more, is the Latte, and like Nan Madol in Pohnpei. I know elders told us that Taga built the Latte. But with all the megaligths in the world, I’m thinking a different type of terrestrial being. History is very interesting.
The Latte Stones design and to a lesser extent the construction methods of Nan Madol, still very much reflect ISEA austronesian design philosophies. Don't give me none of this it was aliens bullshit, humans are more than capable to make these structures.
Indeed. Nan Madol is a phenomenon not understood!
@@ANTSEMUT1 agreed. We had a cleaner diet and hardier way of life
@@ANTSEMUT1 Not homo sapiens, maybe some other type of beings. Who knows who made it. Every stone work that dates back thousands of years are proven to be constructed with a way more advance technology than that of human’s.
@@lwf5205 Stfu... are you really hating on the capabilities of your own people... oH wE aRe ToO dUmb To DeSiGn ThEsE tHiNgS iT mUsT Be AlEiNs BrOwN iSlaNdErS wErE jUsT sLaVeS. Latte like structures can be found all over here in south east Asia, as granaries, meeting areas and ceremonial platforms. You can find Nan Madol type construction can be found in Taiwan and Jomon period southern Japan.
Our distant cousins
Sp were basically Filipinu
No.... it's defends on the area of Pacific island where HEAVILY settled by Ancient Austronesian from what is now Filipino because not all Pacific island was occupied by Ancient Austronesian(Filipino). Austronesian is refers to language Family rather than bloodline ancestry that's reason why Austronesian speaking people look so different because Language Family is different from bloodline ancestry. When it comes Austronesian is race bloodline ancestry NOT a languages family, People of the Philippines play an important role because the country was both ethnically and linguistically Austronesian and Austronesian people is belong mongoloid race, but AGAIN Austronesian refers to the language Family rather bloodline ancestry that's reason why Austronesian speaking people look so different because language Family is different from bloodline ancestry...When it comes to bloodline ancestry, people of the Philippines was highest genetics of Austronesian ancestry among the other Austronesian speaking peoples because Philippines is home different Austronesian languages and house of Austronesian people SURPRISE SURPRISE people from Northern Philippines to Southern Philippines sharing with same physical appearance because they belong with same ancestors... over 90% of the Philippines population are Predominantly Austronesian both linguistically and ethnically
Language ng Guam ilocano at filipino tyaka Spanish kaya halos mag ka pareho pinas at guam
Spanish?? it's Austronesian linguistically family don't be victim of colonialism you act you have Spanish colonial mentality
@@YanyKim Spanish English hindi austronesian tanga meron din ilocano at filipino kahit kasuotan nila katulad sa filipinas
My ass my ancestor is ukudu daggua which is from Papua new guinea what u talking bout ? He was given the name taitano because he had no land learn more my friend , there's even a high school in guam named after him open your mind More my man
@PulanSpeaks c'mon now you know our ancestors are not filipino its no hate towards them
I'm from Papua New Guinea, the name Taitano sounds Motuan or from somewhere in Central province or Milne Bay province
Ukudu daggua sounds Trobriand Islands, Milne Bay Province
Are you Weird Al Yankovic son?