Walter Veith and Francois Du Plessis discuss Ron Wyatt's archaeology claims.

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  • Опубликовано: 26 ноя 2024
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    A discussion of Ron Wyatt's archaeological findings by Walter Veith and Francois Du Plessis
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  • @eugenepelle4790
    @eugenepelle4790 10 дней назад +6

    I believe Ron Wyatt story 100%

  • @billytekahika9843
    @billytekahika9843 11 дней назад +9

    I’m a big fan of Walters Ministry but he has points wrong here. 1. The blood that was tested DID have 1 male chromosome-which made the Lord a male. So he is surprisingly wrong there. 2. The original Passover was exactly that, a typology for the blood of the lamb Jesus being shed and also the future sealing of God’s people. The difference with the actual event of Jesus’ death is that it is the fulfilment of the typology and the end of the Judaic sacrificial system of Moses. There is no violation of the original typology but the fulfilment. It makes full sense and is logical the that the blood of Jesus would land on the Mercy seat…Jesus then ascended to the Father to validate acceptance of His sacrifice. According to sacrificial protocol, the sacrificial blood must fall onto the mercy seat. Does it not make spiritual and biblical sense that the blood of God’s dear Son would complete the process God gave us??
    So I am surprised by Walter’s arrogance about this matter. The SDA church rejected Ron yet he preached the 3 Angel’s messages faithfully. God and time will judge and reveal the truth. 🙏 Sleep well Ron from your labours which shall follow you. 🙏

    • @user-ky2xo2ls4m
      @user-ky2xo2ls4m 11 дней назад +1

      So where are the results of this blood test? Surely that would make world news. Something that big has to be verified doesn’t it? I’m just asking, it just doesn’t add up from what I’ve heard.

    • @mh1962-u1q
      @mh1962-u1q 11 дней назад +1

      @@billytekahika9843 Amen brother

    • @danielchidaushe1559
      @danielchidaushe1559 4 дня назад

      ​@@user-ky2xo2ls4mnot everything significant makes the global headlines (...and this is not accidental)

    • @earlysda
      @earlysda 2 дня назад

      Walter Veith likes to keep his personal conspiracy theories alive, so when Ron Wyatt discovers real historical facts, he gets upset.

  • @roxanamateescu4529
    @roxanamateescu4529 15 дней назад +6

    The place where the Ark is declared to be, is also ok with the information we have from Sop, that states it was hidden by sacred hands the night before Babilonian invasion so it must be not far from the Temple, and a cave with it’s entrance blocked with stones is mentioned. Michel Rood has a pretty interesting theory of how that happened and you can find it on youtube. Ellen White also stated that the Ark is still hidden in the same place, and so will be till Sunday low. I believe everything fits pretty well.

    • @ourfuturetoday1958
      @ourfuturetoday1958 15 дней назад +1

      SOP does not say the Ark is hidden until Sunday Law. Michael Rood is also a false teacher as was Wyatt and his disciples. We should be focusing on the heavenly ministry of Christ in front of the heavenly Ark of the Covenant where His blood is being administered for each one of us NOW!

    • @mh1962-u1q
      @mh1962-u1q 12 дней назад +1

      I don’t know Michel Rood (will look him up) but I believe that Ron was telling the truth and I believe every word of the Spirit of Prophecy.

    • @ourfuturetoday1958
      @ourfuturetoday1958 11 дней назад

      @@mh1962-u1q You cannot believe in Ron and the SOP at the same time. One is in error. Ron said Jesus only 24 Chromosomes. How can He be our example if that is the case?

    • @danielchidaushe1559
      @danielchidaushe1559 4 дня назад +1

      ​@@ourfuturetoday1958Jesus was born of a virgin. Who among us was born from a virgin??? Does that nullify Jesus' humanity??? Why do you expect Jesus to have 46 chromosomes yet He had one earthly parent???

    • @earlysda
      @earlysda 2 дня назад

      @@danielchidaushe1559 daniel, Good point!

  • @roxanamateescu4529
    @roxanamateescu4529 15 дней назад +6

    There was no blood on the Mercy Seat on Passover because maybe only Christ’s blood (literally)was supposed to be sprinkled there, once and forever.

  • @21divel
    @21divel 13 дней назад +5

    Strange.....I am usually with Veith....but this one seems a little off. The issue with chromosome was not correct. The other guy provides absolutely no science and completely writes it off.
    I heard a family member (I think) of Wyatt's and they said the SDA conference wrote him off as soon as he said he wouldn't go along with them having someone else take credit for his work.... They told him it would be an "embarrassment" to the church to have him as the "archeologist" because he had no credentials.
    Something is fishy here...

    • @sanjaljucovic2179
      @sanjaljucovic2179 13 дней назад +2

      That man who supposedly should present Ron's findigs to the public without making an embarrassed SDA
      Church, beeing educated archeologist (professor at Andrews) was dr Shea. Ron did not accept that manipulation (if he accepted that he could not stayed alive in front of Mercy Seat later?) but dr Shea never reject a possibility for Durupinar beeing a real thing, a Noach 's Ark. He rejected other Ron's findings. Something indeed is very fishy

    • @mh1962-u1q
      @mh1962-u1q 12 дней назад +1

      I believe 100% that Ron was telling the truth. I was also disappointed in Walter and François.

    • @danellseenyen7860
      @danellseenyen7860 8 дней назад

      ​@@mh1962-u1q Well not as disappointed as I am to know that some people do not read the Spirit of Prophecy. I went to see Ron Wyatt when he visited Australia for talk shows and did not like what i heard and saw. Nowhere is it said that the tables of the law will be brought forth by men as a result of finding them hidden in a cave instead it clearly states that God will reveal the Ark of the Covenant and the tables to view and not man ,after probation has closed for all men. The tables will then be exhibited "as the rule of judgment." So Ron could be seen as a fraud. No wonder he did not reveal them to the world.
      "While these words of holy trust ascend to God, the clouds sweep back, and the starry heavens are seen, unspeakably glorious in contrast with the black and angry firmament on either side. The glory of the celestial city streams from the gates ajar. Then there appears against the sky a hand holding two tables of stone folded together. Says the prophet: `The heavens shall declare His righteousness: for God is judge Himself' (Psalm 50:6). That holy law, God's righteousness, that amid thunder and flame was proclaimed from Sinai as the guide of life, is now revealed to men as the rule of judgment. The hand opens the tables, and there are seen the precepts of the Decalogue, traced as with a pen of fire. The words are so plain that all can read them."--GC 639.
      So Walter and Francois are correct.

  • @danielscholtz4512
    @danielscholtz4512 15 дней назад +7

    We however find that Galatians 4:24-25 clearly states that Mount Sinai is in Arabia, but tourists who are not familiar with these Scriptures are not taken there for the whole area is cordoned off by the Arabs, exactly how Ronn Wyatt presents it.

    • @mh1962-u1q
      @mh1962-u1q 12 дней назад +1

      I believe 100% Ron’s discoveries.

    • @mariehanna7862
      @mariehanna7862 12 дней назад +1

      @@danielscholtz4512 Penny and Joe Caldwell also explore the area and wrote about it

    • @mariehanna7862
      @mariehanna7862 12 дней назад +1

      @@danielscholtz4512 it's called jabal al lawz. I was planning to go there with a Muslim guide when covid hit

  • @gorkon1971
    @gorkon1971 15 дней назад +16

    Normally, I defer to Walter, however, he is EXACTLY incorrect about what Wyatt said about the y Chromosome. Wyatt stated that the Y chromosome was present, but rest of the chromosomes from a human father were not present.

    • @BBB1980.
      @BBB1980. 13 дней назад +4

      That still makes Him non human! He created a new theology with this whole ordeal. Jesus was FULLY human and FULLY God. Not half human and half God.

    • @marcomonti4231
      @marcomonti4231 12 дней назад +5

      ​@@BBB1980. Please reconsider carefully. I've come to the conclusion that Ron Wyatt was one hundred percent correct.
      Jesus was as human as you and I are. The Y chromosome which was supplied from the Father was necessary for Jesus to become a male. All of His human attributes came through Mary's twenty three chromosomes. Now consider this thought: if Jesus had forty six chromosomes, twenty three from Mary, but where would the other twenty three come from? Jesus didn't have an earthly father, so God would've had to give Jesus twenty three instead of just that one sex-determining Y chromosome. Now would you agree with me that God never creates anything less than perfect. God wouldn't have given Jesus the twenty three age-degenerated missing chromosomes. And God obviously didn't give Jesus twenty three perfect chromosomes which would be the only other option. And people don't realize that had God given Jesus these other twenty three perfect chromosomes, them He certainly wouldn't have been exactly the same as us, after all, which of us has a perfect set of chromosomes? Adam would've had them, but Jesus came with our nature, not Adam's. Also, something else to think about. Jesus was born of a virgin. Do you know anyone else born of a virgin? If you do, please get a sample of their blood so we can do a chromosome count.
      I know this is a lot to take in, but I hope I explained clearly enough.

    • @mh1962-u1q
      @mh1962-u1q 12 дней назад +2

      Amen brother

    • @gerardmoloney9979
      @gerardmoloney9979 11 дней назад

      ​@@BBB1980.Jesus had all his mothers human qualities and one Y chromosome that came from God. That's the result of the laboratory tests on the blood of Jesus Christ taken from the mercy seat by Ron Wyatt. The blood was still alive. There is no reason to doubt Ron Wyatt. He found the Red Sea crossing, the real Mt Sinai, Sodom and Gomorrah, Noah's Ark and the Ark of the Covenant. All his work was inspired by God in answer to prayer. Ron asked God to give him the mission of finding proof of the Bible to help people to believe. He spent over a million dollars of his own money doing God's work. He encountered many miracles that enabled him succeed in his work. He had not motive to undertake this work other than the will of God. He informed the Israeli authorities of his discovery of the Ark of the Covenant. It was supernaturally pointed out to him where the location was. His arm just shot out and pointed to where is was and the words just came from his mouth; that where the Ark was hidden. He spent many years hard work and found it under the crucifixion site. There are four angels guarding the Ark and six soldiers were killed when they tried to remove it. Ron had to retrieve their bodies. The Ark will be revealed in God's time. Ron has placed a video which he took in the Ark to prove his story is true. He said it will be revealed when the Sunday Laws are enforced. Ron Wyatt is a man of God. His discoveries are on RUclips videos for all to see.

    • @billytekahika9843
      @billytekahika9843 11 дней назад +4

      @@marcomonti4231I completely agree - I posted my comment above. Moreover I’m surprised by Walter’s and Francois arrogance displayed here. And I am a great admirer of Walters but he has this wrong.

  • @sherelineroberts5085
    @sherelineroberts5085 16 дней назад +21

    I respect Walter Veith a lot. However, it does not mean he gets everything right.
    Ron did say that there was a Y chromosome.Pastor V needs to take a listen again to his testimony.
    It could be that Ron Wyatt got it right. Only time will tell. I will not join Pastor Veith and condemn Wyatt’s testimony. I will wait and see how it all turns out.
    If he were an accomplished archeologist, many ppl will have believed. To many people, it is unbelievable that a novice like Ron could find all those biblical landmarks one after the next, while accomplished archaeologists ( Christians or not) failed to discover them. God many times work with the unqualified. As a result, those individuals have nothing to boast about. E G White didn’t reach far in school yet she has written many inspiring books etc. She did not study theology nor had a long list of titles behind her name but she has won many souls to Jesus via her books. Jesus came and He claimed to be the Messiah but the ‘educated’ Jews did not believe Him. He did not have a long list of accomplishments according to their culture. He didn’t have pomp and riches. For many even today, only time will tell.
    The safest route anyone should take is to give it time and see how things unfold.

    • @prophecyfulfilling
      @prophecyfulfilling  16 дней назад +2

      What settles it for me is the unbiblical claim Wyatt made that the blood of Christ dripping onto the mercy seat completed the atonement. That's not supported in Scripture. Jesus still ministers his blood today before the heavenly ark of the covenant.

    • @sanjaljucovic2179
      @sanjaljucovic2179 16 дней назад +8

      That's exactly! Professor Weith is brilliant but by his answer on this topik, he actually showed that he did not have researched much. Biological argument goes down, and in mine opinion tipological also. Why shouldn't blood from real Lamb sprinkle on real arc of the covenant?! On contrary, it is so in line with Bible.

    • @prophecyfulfilling
      @prophecyfulfilling  15 дней назад +5

      @@sanjaljucovic2179 Passover lamb blood was never taken into the most holy place where the ark was. High Priest only approached ark of covenant once a year. Not during Passover but some 6 months later during Yom Kippur

    • @glennbrooks3449
      @glennbrooks3449 15 дней назад +6

      I agree with you . These people have not spent enough time researching this one.

    • @bethanycearadoran-smith4192
      @bethanycearadoran-smith4192 15 дней назад +4

      My first thought was that exactly, Wyatt did specify a Y chromosome, Vieth didn’t look too closely before writing the guy off.

  • @harley6394-h3f
    @harley6394-h3f 15 дней назад +17

    Christ may not have had an earthly father but he had a heavenly Father. This presentation seemed a little anti Wyatt.

    • @BBB1980.
      @BBB1980. 13 дней назад +2

      But if He was made in all points like as we are, how could He not have both types of chromosomes? He wasn't human if he didn't have both sets. This is new teaching. Not just archeology. During the Passover, blood never was sprinkled on the ark. Nor is it ever suggested as having to happen. Without his "discovery" of the ark and the "blood of Christ" we wouldn't have known the covenant was ratified? Where does it say that is even necessary?
      Adventists believe we are in the antitypical Day of Atonement - why would a covenant be ratified during the passover in a Day of Atonement style? He's mixing feasts and skewing the sda teaching of the Investigative Judgement which began at the end of the 2300 evenings and mornings of Daniel 8:14.
      Also the New Covenant symbolism switched from animals, altars and temples to Jesus, Communion, and the heavenly sanctuary.
      At His death, the curtain was torn! That sanctuary was done! Over. Fulfilled! Even if there was the ark under the cross. Why is there no hint of this being necessary in the Bible or Spirit of Prophecy?
      With all due respect, but Wyatt is creating some kind of new theology. That's saying He had a human body but also didn't? That's close to the gnostic Docitists who say He didn't have a body but just the appearance of one.
      I'm also curious as to why Wyatt wasn't nockef down to the ground as with every other prophet in the Bible. After that, I have dozens more questions.
      I'm not calling him a liar. I'm calling his confused as when I measure it against the Bible it does not add up. God bless you and would love to hear back from you.

    • @mh1962-u1q
      @mh1962-u1q 12 дней назад +3

      I agree. Walter Veith and François du Plessis are doing a fantastic job and I learned a lot thanks to their lectures but what happened here is very sad. Their attitude is not Christian at all. Walter adopts a dogmatic and presumptuous stance regarding the theology. It seems perfectly logical that the blood of Christ was sprinkled on the mercy seat, thus being the antitype, once and for all, of the sprinkling performed on the yearly day of atonement.
      His statement also implies that Ron lied. But Ron was a God-fearing, honest man.
      Regarding the biological argument, Walter has it completely wrong because Ron never said that the blood had no Y chromosome. Ron said that it had 23 chromosomes from His mother and 1 Y miraculously received, thus 24 chromosomes in total.
      François calling Ron “an embarrassment” with a mocking smile was also very disappointing.
      We all make mistakes and I pray that the Holy Spirit will make Walter and François realise that they did not give a good example of humility.

    • @RaewynWales-j4j
      @RaewynWales-j4j 11 дней назад

      Do you believe in the immortality of the soul..Ron claimed the blood was dry but not dead..the arknof the covenant he claimed to have found is not the same as the biblical one..he has pomegranates surrounded the mercy seat..but the bible says crowns surrounded the edge of the ark..theres no mention of the angels holding staffs or wearing bonnets that Ron has added..the bible and SOP do not support his claims.
      It's not an attack against Ron Wyatt but rather truth v error..God warns not to add to his word or take away..Rons trying to explain the mystery of Christ's incarnation.

    • @user-ky2xo2ls4m
      @user-ky2xo2ls4m 11 дней назад

      @@mh1962-u1q If you know anything about South Africans, you will know that they are direct and honest. I agree with them. If RW found the ark of the covenant, where is it now? Also, someone else speaking on this, said he was unwell with a raging fever and quite unwell. Did he hallucinate? Maybe. There is a lot of money going into these digs with not much discovery. Ross Paterson has spent multiple thousands on his digs for twenty years or more, donations from people thinking that they are on the edge of a big discovery allegedly. If there was anything to find it would have been found by now imo.

    • @earlysda
      @earlysda 2 дня назад

      @@mh1962-u1q mh, Yes, Walter has many good things to say, but he goes directly against EGW's writings when talking weird conspiracy theories, and here he shows he is contemptuous of an amateur archaeologist who just following what God has shown us in the Holy Bible.

  • @ElenoaLikusei-e2o
    @ElenoaLikusei-e2o 11 дней назад +4

    I fully believed in Ron whatt, it was not only Ron whatt who agrees on Noah's ark but other people as well . Plus look into the sanctuary on how the priest usually sprinkled the blood before the ark when the sin offering is offered.

  • @brandonlme4121
    @brandonlme4121 16 дней назад +10

    Well i do support Walter Veith and the Seventh Day Adventist beliefs but most professed christians in this world say the same things about Seventh Day Adventist beliefs as Walter and François said about Ron Wyatt.

    • @NormaHepburn
      @NormaHepburn 16 дней назад

      Ron Wyatt was a seventh day Adventist, but later disassociated himself from the church.

    • @prophecyfulfilling
      @prophecyfulfilling  16 дней назад +1

      True, Francois could have given more of a solid basis for why he was rejecting it. Veith did a good job of explaining why Wyatt's claims about the blood don't pass a doctrinal test.

    • @brandonlme4121
      @brandonlme4121 15 дней назад +3

      @@NormaHepburn oh. I never knew Ron disassociated himself with the SDA church. I'll have to research that myself.

    • @glennbrooks3449
      @glennbrooks3449 15 дней назад +1

      @@NormaHepburnyes he disassociated but the question to be asked is why? I know do you?

    • @brandonlme4121
      @brandonlme4121 15 дней назад

      @@prophecyfulfilling I've watched all the evidence from Ron Wyatt and its pretty convincing to me. Everyone gets caught up on the Ark of The Covenant because there's no video evidence like the other discoveries. Again I can understand that because no one can look on the ark and live except one whom God chooses and he obviously chose Ron. So, I'm not going to let envy build up in my mind and heart because God chose Ron and not me or others. Also God even had Henry Gruver meet Ron in Jerusalem in a miraculous way. And anyone who's watched Henry Gruver knows he was a prayer walker and a true man of God. And Michael Rood met Ron and also had signs from God to meet Ron. Everything I've researched in the past 12 years has led me to believe Ron Wyatt was telling the truth. Its really sad to me to see Walter and François write Ron off as con man.

  • @farwestgarohills3831
    @farwestgarohills3831 11 дней назад +4

    As Dr. Veith said, he has a problem with the "y" chromosome. So, I also say, I have a problem with Dr. Veith's argument; I am also a biologist like him. Dr. Veith said, there was no "y" chromosome, but Ron Wyaat said that THERE WAS A "Y" CHROMOSOME but not of any human. Dr. Veith deteriorated Wyaat's explanation.

  • @ElenoaLikusei-e2o
    @ElenoaLikusei-e2o 11 дней назад +3

    Ron whyatt did mentioned that the only Y chromosomes present was the one that determined his sex. I totally disagree with Walter on this one. I was so disappointed when they said that Ron Whyatt is an ambarassment to the SDA community. We do have the HOLY SPIRIT that identify the truth to us and not merely human words.

  • @roxanamateescu4529
    @roxanamateescu4529 15 дней назад +4

    And the claim of 4 angels guarding the Ark of the Covenant is also accurate as we find the same information in the Sop

    • @BBB1980.
      @BBB1980. 13 дней назад

      Where?

    • @glennbrooks3449
      @glennbrooks3449 13 дней назад +1

      @@BBB1980. I remember something about it. Think it was in one of the many videos I watched. However I never confirmed it so my statement is not worth much. I can remember Ellen White was supposed to have written something about the commandments being revealed. I never noted where she was supposed to have written it. Long winter ahead. I may reveal some videos.

    • @earlysda
      @earlysda 2 дня назад +1

      @@glennbrooks3449 Ellen White makes it clear that the 10 Commandments will be brought forth around the time of the Sunday Law, and people will see clearly what God wants, and what man wants. The Mark of the Beast isn't going to be done in secret!

    • @glennbrooks3449
      @glennbrooks3449 2 дня назад

      @ thought I read that somewhere or I heard Ron say. Be nice to know where it is in her writings.

  • @farwestgarohills3831
    @farwestgarohills3831 11 дней назад +3

    I respect much Dr. Veith and listen all his preaching. But here he pulled himself by lying about Ronald Wyaat's (Ron) statement, that there was not "y" chromosome, when Ron stated, "there was".

  • @constancemcmichaels9527
    @constancemcmichaels9527 День назад

    After recently reading Matthew, this dialogue reminds me of the "Torah-teachers" who tried to keep evidence of JESUS'S resurrection a secret by spreading the opposite information. Matthew 28/29 I believe. I ain't saying anything I don't know or can't prove, but that's where this lands in my spirit 🙌⬇️

  • @glennbrooks3449
    @glennbrooks3449 15 дней назад +5

    Not going to agree with this one. I watched hours and hours of different videos and I think Ron told the Truth. Am I fooled ? Don’t think so. Walter and Francisco are far too busy to spent the time I spend on the discoveries of Ron and different people who have backed him up.

    • @mariehanna7862
      @mariehanna7862 15 дней назад

      @@glennbrooks3449 the Lord told me many years ago that Ron Wyatt was the genuine article

    • @ourfuturetoday1958
      @ourfuturetoday1958 15 дней назад +1

      Walter and Francois saw quickly it is fake. Being deceived by watching oodles of videos doesn't make it true.

    • @glennbrooks3449
      @glennbrooks3449 15 дней назад +1

      @ that’s your opinion. So now you are effectively calling all of his work fake . Based on your opinion.

    • @ourfuturetoday1958
      @ourfuturetoday1958 15 дней назад

      @@glennbrooks3449 Once you see error in one of his deceptions why watch anymore. They all come from the Father of Lies. Wyatts so-called discovery on the Ark of the Covenant is so obviously a lie.

    • @bethdfl8823
      @bethdfl8823 15 дней назад

      Doesn't mean it's fake because Walter Veith says it is either or what Ellen White says. They not God so how do they know
      Do not put them above God

  • @lecoeur1231
    @lecoeur1231 15 дней назад +12

    sadly, I think it was very disrespectful for Francois to say that "this man is an embarrassment." That does not seem like the character of Christ speaking :(

    • @prophecyfulfilling
      @prophecyfulfilling  15 дней назад +3

      @@lecoeur1231 I agree he should have instead listed facts

    • @nirvaansinghtheartist
      @nirvaansinghtheartist 14 дней назад +3

      adbsolutely

    • @peterwilliams843
      @peterwilliams843 14 дней назад +2

      Agreed!

    • @BBB1980.
      @BBB1980. 13 дней назад +1

      I would say a teacher of false theology is an embarrassment. May we all be embarrassed for teaching weird and false things. Kellogg was also an embarrassment. Its ok to admit when something is weird and deceptive. Embarrassment is a better word than some would use..

    • @prophecyfulfilling
      @prophecyfulfilling  13 дней назад

      @@BBB1980. strong words are needed from time to time

  • @SaveTheBees
    @SaveTheBees 16 дней назад +5

    Wow, this blows my mind. I saw the videos. I was convinced that was the ark. It really looks like it. I was never sold on the ark of the covenant however. Hearing these two favorite pastors of mine for years, I am truly shocked. I’m not sure what I’m feeling right now. Confused, I suppose. I really thought they would see the results in a positive way. Guess not. Wow….. just wow. 😢

    • @prophecyfulfilling
      @prophecyfulfilling  15 дней назад +1

      But when someone makes unbiblical claims about the atonement you have to wonder...

    • @glennbrooks3449
      @glennbrooks3449 15 дней назад +3

      @@prophecyfulfilling so you ignore all the work he has done and condemn it all for a statement made by him because he lacks understanding on what you believe . He is human and not perfect.
      If he is right about the Ark under the crucifixion site , the blood landing on the mercy seat , it would line up with the crack being recorded , the blood being recorded coming from his side and the words of Jesus saying it is finished in the bible .
      He now his our high priest and the job of the high priest was once a year to bring blood to the inner room , to the mercy seat. If Jesus’s blood was put there it would be an offering forever. Just my thoughts. Whether they are right or wrong I am not sure. But one thing I am sure of is there is evidence out there supporting Ron. Whether I am fooled , will have to be revealed later if God is willing.

    • @sylviamanring9975
      @sylviamanring9975 15 дней назад +1

      ​@@glennbrooks3449
      Veith then isnt forgiven in order for any one to receive forgiveness the blood HAD TO BE ON THE MERCY SEAT.ONCE A YEAR.

    • @glennbrooks3449
      @glennbrooks3449 15 дней назад +2

      @ that’s the old covenant, done away with Jesus. Jesus was the lamb prophesied about thru the Old Testament prophets. That’s why it said it was finished. God promised a redemption right away from the time Adam and Eve fell. 4000 years later Christ payed the price. No more animals sacrifices needed.

    • @prophecyfulfilling
      @prophecyfulfilling  15 дней назад

      @ right, Jesus wasn't just any animal sacrifice typologically. He died at the exact hour of the Passover lamb.

  • @evasteen7060
    @evasteen7060 14 дней назад +1

    Questions and Answers on the Discoveries with Ross Patterson : ruclips.net/video/fjLdqazs_E4/видео.html

    • @mh1962-u1q
      @mh1962-u1q 12 дней назад +1

      Thank you for the link!

  • @messenger1
    @messenger1 14 дней назад +1

    I fully believe the discoveries of Ron Wyatt to be accurate and true.
    Walter says that the blood of the sacrifice was never sprinkled on the ark during the Passover.
    Well that is correct. It was sprinkled on the sacrificial alter. This took place when Jesus was on the cross. His blood flowed down the cross (alter), and then down onto the ark which was below.the cross. This had to take place as the Lord's blood had to be sprinkled on the ark before the Day of Atonement as Jesus was not here to carry this out.
    Walter, no matter which way you try to discredit Ron Wyatt, your story makes no sense.
    How about Ron's discovery of the Red Sea Crossing site?
    Why do you omit to comment on that discovery?
    Sorry Walter, I rather believe Ron Wyatt than you.
    You also teach that there are some folk already in heaven. When I gave you Biblical evidence to the contrary, you deleted my post. Rather deceitful of you.
    And your friend Francois is another piece of work.

    • @mh1962-u1q
      @mh1962-u1q 12 дней назад +1

      I agree with you. I have a lot of admiration for Walter and François but here their attitude is deplorable and presumptuous.

  • @mariehanna7862
    @mariehanna7862 15 дней назад +4

    The account says there was one Y chromosome

    • @mh1962-u1q
      @mh1962-u1q 12 дней назад +1

      You are right and I believe that Ron was telling the truth. I’m very sad about the attitude of Walter and François. But we all make mistakes.

  • @williamwyatt8846
    @williamwyatt8846 13 дней назад +1

    The Bible says that before Mary and Joseph came together she was already pregnant.
    If you had listened you wouldn't have heard my brother say that there was one why but it was not from an earthly male.

  • @williamwyatt8846
    @williamwyatt8846 2 дня назад

    You condemn yourself, Rom 2, you believe His enemies without talking to him.

  • @roxanamateescu4529
    @roxanamateescu4529 15 дней назад +2

    Ron Wyatt said the blood contains 23 chromosomes from his mother Mary and 1 chromosome from His father God,giving His masculinity. So no problem for circumcision.
    As about the blood on the Mercy Seat, Hebrews 9:12.

    • @21divel
      @21divel 13 дней назад

      The ark was in the most holy place.... Not the "holy place".

    • @BBB1980.
      @BBB1980. 13 дней назад +1

      That makes Him 1/2 human 1/2 God. Unbiblical heresy.
      Also why didn't He anoint the Candlestick, altar of incense, table of showered?
      Also atonemnet in the Day of Atonement isn't complete until the blood is put on the live goat...
      But of course He is mixing up feats and typology here in doing Yom Kippur things on Passover.
      Also - what did Wyatt do with thr ten commandments he touched? Also why was he allowed to touch the table of showbread? Lastly, why would he be allowed to set a vhs cassette ONTOP of the Ark? Seems irreverent....because He said angels were guarding it. Almost seems a little Uzzah-ish.
      But I say that because I think the whole thing is delusional and unbiblical.

    • @BBB1980.
      @BBB1980. 13 дней назад

      That verse if read in NKJV wrong says Most Holy Place....that is a completely wrong reading. The maniscript is hagua (Holy Place) not hagia hagion (Most Holy Place)
      But also that verse is about Christ's ascension into heaven...not his bloods descenion into the earth.

  • @urlyadoptr
    @urlyadoptr 15 дней назад +6

    those people in the scriptures who even SAW the ark of the covenant uncovered died...therefore Ron Wyatt did not see any such thing, forget touching such a holy item and surviving

    • @glennbrooks3449
      @glennbrooks3449 15 дней назад +2

      @@urlyadoptr your statement shows lack of knowledge why it was even preserved for such a time as the national Sunday law. How much research did you really do? Not much I believe. You don’t even know how many died trying to get it out. However I can accept your unbelief . That’s fine . That’s your call. But give me some real evidence that he lied .

    • @sanjaljucovic2179
      @sanjaljucovic2179 13 дней назад +1

      If he was righteous he could. Is it that only Aron sons could enter and stayed alive (on Jom Kippur)
      We know that Ron's mother was Jewish

    • @danellseenyen7860
      @danellseenyen7860 8 дней назад

      @@glennbrooks3449 Read the GC page 639. No man will reveal the Ark of the Covenant and the table of stones to the world!

  • @ruthannjohnson1640
    @ruthannjohnson1640 15 дней назад +2

    Why don't they bring the arc of the covenant out under the tunnel

    • @sanjaljucovic2179
      @sanjaljucovic2179 13 дней назад

      No man who is guilty of breaking 10 comandments can not stand alive in front of Mercy seat. This make a question why some of adventist that wanted to see it and make report did not succeed. Think about it. And they use to speek bad about Ron after. So it could be the reason. But, also they not beeing Aron descend. Which Ron could be. His mother was Jewish, and she could be (like Maria and Elizabeth) one of Aron's daughters.
      This is just me guessing.
      I found it speeks a lot about Ron's character that he never spoke bad about those adventists from famous media and possibility that, they were not perfect keepers of low. Just remember that those 10000$ was given to the Ron (who was in need) by mother of that man, who speaks bad of Ron, not himself.

    • @marcomonti4231
      @marcomonti4231 12 дней назад

      I believe the ark of the covenant will one day be revealed. In fact, I think it may just happen after probation closes. But it will come out! All these nay sayers will be very surprised.

    • @mh1962-u1q
      @mh1962-u1q 12 дней назад +2

      @@marcomonti4231I agree brother, or it could be shown before the close of probation, during the loud cry/latter rain as an additional argument to bring back souls to Christ.

  • @d.montana6454
    @d.montana6454 14 дней назад

    I've prayed about it, listened again to Walter and he makes sense when he says that only once a yr the blood was sprinkled on the mercy seat. It wasn't done during the passover feast.
    That's powerful, unfortunately it doesn't look good for Ron's theory, we cant make the rules as we go, we follow God's rules.
    What Ron found as in the blood is yet to be figured out, but I have to stick with God's set ordinances unaltered.
    Ron was sincere, he did find Sodom and Gomorrah, and the red sea crossing, it's possible that after that he may have been duped by the arch deceiver and took him down the garden path... God will be the judge.
    I do wish Walter would do an expose of this matter because it does have alot of people, including myself wondering. But thank goodness for this short video... would just like to hear more, but as I said we have to credit Ron with these other amazing discoveries though.

    • @BBB1980.
      @BBB1980. 13 дней назад

      I dunno...we judge by their fruits. How is it 100% accurate He discoverd those other things? We can't rule only with our senses!
      Also it's been made a test question almost. Almost like a relic based religion. He creates His own theology & "new light" on the story with every find he made! Why believe the ark had ancor stones? Why believe that was definitely the red sea crossing?
      Why would I be benefited by believing his added stories about things he found? It's pseudographical as it doesn't always harmonoze with scripture.

    • @d.montana6454
      @d.montana6454 13 дней назад

      @@BBB1980. I wasn't saying rule worth only our senses.
      I was stating that we can't make the rules and God follow them, it's quite the opposite when it comes to the mosaic ceremonies .
      There's lots of stories in the Bible of people who were true prophets, but went off track later in life.
      Not saying Ron was a prophet, but a man God had used, but this may be the case with Ron Wyatt, that he got fooled by some other stuff and attributed it to God.
      It doesn't matter how sincere you are, if your wrong your wrong...

    • @mh1962-u1q
      @mh1962-u1q 12 дней назад

      I believe 100% that Ron told the truth. I’m very sad about the unusual dogmatic and presumptuous attitude of Walter and François.

  • @atenorforjesus
    @atenorforjesus 15 дней назад +1

    There is to be in the churches a wonderful manifestation of the power of God, but it will not move upon those who have not humbled themselves before the Lord, and opened the door of their heart by confession and repentance. In the manifestation of that power which lightens the earth with the glory of God, they will see only something which in their blindness they think dangerous, something which will arouse their fears, and they will brace themselves to resist it. Because the Lord does not work according to their expectations and ideal, they will oppose the work. “Why,” they say, “should we not know the Spirit of God, when we have been in the work so many years?” Because they did not respond to the warnings, the entreaties, of the messages of God, but persistently said, “I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing.”Mar 219.2

    • @ourfuturetoday1958
      @ourfuturetoday1958 15 дней назад

      Foolish post desperate attempt to maintain deception.

    • @atenorforjesus
      @atenorforjesus 15 дней назад

      @@ourfuturetoday1958 You are SDA and you can't see the importance of finding the ark of the covenant?

    • @ourfuturetoday1958
      @ourfuturetoday1958 15 дней назад

      @@atenorforjesus Misapplying the Spirit of Prophecy to those who don't believe the lies of Wyatt shows the depth of strong delusions some are under.

    • @ourfuturetoday1958
      @ourfuturetoday1958 15 дней назад +1

      @atenorforjesus As an SDA I'm focused on the one in heaven not the one the Lord secreted away on earth so people wouldn't worship it.

    • @prophecyfulfilling
      @prophecyfulfilling  15 дней назад +1

      The importance is placed upon God writing his laws on our hearts, not on finding a physical object

  • @kingmufasa8929
    @kingmufasa8929 16 дней назад +1

    It is a great story😂. I know people would get carried away.

  • @gabriellebrowne1388
    @gabriellebrowne1388 15 дней назад +1

    do you have a link to the full presentation please

    • @prophecyfulfilling
      @prophecyfulfilling  15 дней назад

      @@gabriellebrowne1388 ruclips.net/video/JIDNtME9qng/видео.html
      About the 14:45 mark

  • @kindvangod7876
    @kindvangod7876 3 дня назад

    These two men remind me of the teachers and scribes of the old times that knew Scriptures but missed Christ completely. That is why Jesus went to common people that would listen to Him. That are not full of themselves. His facts he got wrong. Ron Wyatt said he had 1 Y Chromosome. What Ron Wyatt found will now be revealed in the prophetic Fall season which is exactly right and in line with Yom Kippur. These men are shortsighted and jealous of a humble man like Ron Wyatt. It was prophesied that the Christ would anoint the most holy place in Daniel 9 24. Little humility these days in many church “leaders”

  • @BBB1980.
    @BBB1980. 17 дней назад +4

    He hit the ball out of the park on this one.

    • @prophecyfulfilling
      @prophecyfulfilling  17 дней назад +2

      It's nice to hear from Francois who met with him personally

    • @BBB1980.
      @BBB1980. 13 дней назад +1

      ​@@prophecyfulfillingyes it is! Pretty cool

  • @williamwyatt8846
    @williamwyatt8846 13 дней назад +1

    One more question my friend, have you went to the ruins of Sodom and Gomorrah. I have I have Dug sulfur balls which the dictionary says is brimstone. Come with me and we can climb the real Mount Sinai in Saudi Arabia. Are you can go with me to the split Rock that Moses hit. Surely you would be able to say we're on Wyatt did find something.
    The Turkish government didn't make a visitor center saying that this was Noah's Ark. Maybe you could ask them to show you what was found to prove that it was Noah's Ark.

    • @prophecyfulfilling
      @prophecyfulfilling  13 дней назад +1

      It's quite possible he got some of those locations right! Eternity will reveal.

    • @sanjaljucovic2179
      @sanjaljucovic2179 13 дней назад +1

      Resesrch more and you will believe😂

  • @cremmarmpofu5273
    @cremmarmpofu5273 13 дней назад

    Ron pointed people to Jesus

  • @mariehanna7862
    @mariehanna7862 12 дней назад

    Yeshua's blood came to be on the right side of the Ark of the Covenant also known as The Mercy Seat because of the earthquake at his death. The ark was 30 ft below the Crucifixion site in a cave, which is where Ron Wyatt found it. I have been there. It's called Jeremiah's Grotto and it's located next to the Garden tomb and Golgotha which is where the Arab bus station is. Right outside Damascus gate. Scripture says he was buried outside of the Gates of the city. The plasma that was produced from the Roman soldiers spear dripped down into the crevice and ended up on The Mercy Seat . There's nothing too great for the god of Israel

  • @peterwilliams843
    @peterwilliams843 14 дней назад

    I tend to believe Ron Whyatt over these 2 men
    This came out of nowhere, whats the real agenda here?

  • @williamwyatt8846
    @williamwyatt8846 13 дней назад

    On the day of atonement where did the blood of the goat that represented our Lord and Savior go, Was it not on the mercy seat my brother.

    • @prophecyfulfilling
      @prophecyfulfilling  13 дней назад

      @@williamwyatt8846 yes, beginning in the Fall of 1844, spiritually speaking

  • @nirvaansinghtheartist
    @nirvaansinghtheartist 14 дней назад +1

    ruclips.net/video/fjLdqazs_E4/видео.html
    this video link proves otherwise than walter and francois rude behavior
    they must expect a huge backlash for this and being cancelled

    • @mh1962-u1q
      @mh1962-u1q 12 дней назад

      Thank you for the link and I agree with you about the rude behaviour. Very sad.

  • @messenger1
    @messenger1 14 дней назад

    I notice that my comment has been shadow-banned

    • @prophecyfulfilling
      @prophecyfulfilling  14 дней назад

      @@messenger1 I wonder why that would be? I haven't moderated any of the comments

  • @Legbee42
    @Legbee42 13 дней назад

    Leviticus 16:11-17 KJV
    And Aaron shall bring the bullock of the sin offering, which is for himself, and shall make an atonement for himself, and for his house, and shall kill the bullock of the sin offering which is for himself: [12] And he shall take a censer full of burning coals of fire from off the altar before the LORD, and his hands full of sweet incense beaten small, and bring it within the vail: [13] And he shall put the incense upon the fire before the LORD, that the cloud of the incense may cover the mercy seat that is upon the testimony, that he die not: [14] And he shall take of the blood of the bullock, and sprinkle it with his finger upon the mercy seat eastward; and before the mercy seat shall he sprinkle of the blood with his finger seven times. [15] Then shall he kill the goat of the sin offering, that is for the people, and bring his blood within the vail, and do with that blood as he did with the blood of the bullock, and sprinkle it upon the mercy seat, and before the mercy seat: [16] And he shall make an atonement for the holy place, because of the uncleanness of the children of Israel, and because of their transgressions in all their sins: and so shall he do for the tabernacle of the congregation, that remaineth among them in the midst of their uncleanness. [17] And there shall be no man in the tabernacle of the congregation when he goeth in to make an atonement in the holy place, until he come out, and have made an atonement for himself, and for his household, and for all the congregation of Israel.

  • @aggabus
    @aggabus 15 дней назад +1

    3:20 +1 Why or 2 how would The ark be at that 3 Location At 4that time

  • @heatherprice588
    @heatherprice588 15 дней назад +3

    I have never believed Ron Wyatt he found just to many important things all of a sudden for my liking.

    • @prophecyfulfilling
      @prophecyfulfilling  15 дней назад +1

      @@heatherprice588 requires a lot of belief

    • @glennbrooks3449
      @glennbrooks3449 15 дней назад

      @@heatherprice588 found all of a sudden !! Really shows how much you know .

    • @sanjaljucovic2179
      @sanjaljucovic2179 15 дней назад +2

      Correct, but it could be

    • @glennbrooks3449
      @glennbrooks3449 15 дней назад +2

      @@heatherprice588 for some reason my comment was deleted . Seems to be common on this site. Your comment does not make sense to say Ron found a lot of things sudden. Do some research instead and you will see his discoveries took a lot longer then all of a sudden.

    • @prophecyfulfilling
      @prophecyfulfilling  13 дней назад

      Maybe she meant he became well known in a short amount of time

  • @williamwyatt8846
    @williamwyatt8846 13 дней назад

    It is wrong to condemn and man, will him having no opportunity to speak the other side. There is another side about the story of Danny Shelton.
    Do you remember Nebuchadnezzar asking the three Hebrews Is this true that you did not bow down to my image.

    • @prophecyfulfilling
      @prophecyfulfilling  13 дней назад +1

      @@williamwyatt8846 yes it's wrong to condemn. With what measure we use the same will be used against us.

    • @sanjaljucovic2179
      @sanjaljucovic2179 13 дней назад

      Danny did not succeed to the Mercy seat. Could it be that God has mercy on him? And the money borrowed to the Ron who was in need, was not from Denny but from his mother, am I right?
      Think about it. 6 Jewish man have died in trying to get to the Arc

    • @prophecyfulfilling
      @prophecyfulfilling  12 дней назад

      That's an interesting way to say it

  • @mommamia790
    @mommamia790 10 дней назад +1

    I’m disappointed in these two men. I believe Ron Wyatt and this will be proven.

  • @aggabus
    @aggabus 5 дней назад

    4:04 not 1 ?? What of ?
    Mt Sinai??

  • @aggabus
    @aggabus 5 дней назад

    3:58 man you not it is not nothing..

  • @bethdfl8823
    @bethdfl8823 16 дней назад +1

    What's with those hand signs. Been seeing a lot of it lately

    • @prophecyfulfilling
      @prophecyfulfilling  16 дней назад

      @@bethdfl8823 didn't notice a hand sign.

    • @maaijbasson
      @maaijbasson 16 дней назад

      Looks like a simple "baseline".

    • @MickSwenson
      @MickSwenson 15 дней назад +1

      Minute markers?

    • @bethdfl8823
      @bethdfl8823 15 дней назад

      Lol...
      I've started noticing more and more.

    • @bethdfl8823
      @bethdfl8823 15 дней назад +2

      You can believe what you like. Trust no man

  • @FelixKim-y3n
    @FelixKim-y3n 6 дней назад

    Im beginning to dislike Walter's summons and your clueless friend