How Adidas, Asics, and Other Shoemakers Deal With Waste | World Wide Waste | Insider Business

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @BusinessInsider
    @BusinessInsider  11 месяцев назад +18

    Want to see more of this trash? Have a question? Let us know! Send tips about surprising or innovative ways people deal with garbage to worldwidewaste@businessinsider.com. Your message could inspire our next episode!

    • @ebrahimtazham9075
      @ebrahimtazham9075 4 месяца назад +1

      سلام. از کجا باید کفش های دسته دوم بخرم برای آسیا؟

    • @alibabar864
      @alibabar864 2 дня назад

      Can I make this factory in my country?

    • @alibabar864
      @alibabar864 2 дня назад

      ​@@ebrahimtazham9075Buy from China.

  • @SurgeFYSB
    @SurgeFYSB Год назад +68

    I worked with Steve's team and his subsidiaries, mainly Dr. Pomeroy at UCSD, with algae and biodiesel alternatives to make the world a cleaner place. The algae based soles are actually quite firm, and actually do feel damn near like the other sandals they are paired with :) Love seeing that y'all are shedding light on to this matter! 💗

  • @sophiaisabelle027
    @sophiaisabelle027 Год назад +239

    Dealing with waste is a hard job to come by. We all know some manufacturing corporations/companies out there wouldn't put into any effort into actually segregating their wastes or ensure the safety of all their workers at all costs.

    • @ihavefallenandicantreachmy2113
      @ihavefallenandicantreachmy2113 Год назад

      "MONSANTO" sells Cancer, to it's Patients/Customers, via "Roundup" Weed Killer.
      JUST IN TIME FOR 'CERSTMAS!!!!!!!

    • @boohere2
      @boohere2 Год назад +2

      We can't recycle here the shoes where I live. They say can't be put in recycling bin.

    • @turkizno
      @turkizno Год назад +6

      Coca Cola for instance - they are doing everything they can to make sure they Do Not have to recycle their plastic. We need to teach these arrogant corps a lesson that if they do not help us make a future, they will belong to the past.

    • @pIacebo
      @pIacebo Год назад

      We the ones buyin it

    • @holoceph3916
      @holoceph3916 10 месяцев назад

      @@turkiznoyou know Coca Cola has billions to easily afford doing so too they are just greedy as hell and don’t care about the planet at all

  • @friedrice2912
    @friedrice2912 Год назад +324

    I always hold on to my shoes until they are falling apart.. finally there is a method to recycle these products. 🎉🎉🎉🎉

    • @rebeccachambers4701
      @rebeccachambers4701 Год назад +14

      So your poor like me?

    • @friedrice2912
      @friedrice2912 Год назад

      @@rebeccachambers4701 not sure what financial status has to do with me not wanting to chuck things into a landfill the way most people would.

    • @levtieart3409
      @levtieart3409 Год назад +8

      i buy better quality shoes and fix them ,same with clothes

    • @friedrice2912
      @friedrice2912 Год назад

      @@levtieart3409 classic Dr Frankenstein... Nice

    • @Sisi-vk6pn
      @Sisi-vk6pn Год назад

      AGREE! Same here :)@@levtieart3409

  • @TheHoneycore
    @TheHoneycore Год назад +16

    im working in the dutch militairy, i still remember when i got my first pair of descent runningshoes back in 2013 at the kleding service punt at soesterberg from runnersworld. it feld strange that the militairy partnerd with runnersworld back then but its cool to know the backstory now after all those years.

  • @TojiFushigoroWasTaken
    @TojiFushigoroWasTaken Год назад +132

    Ive been using a woodlands shoe for the past 8 years....its seen everything from grueling mountain treks to being run over by a car (the shoe is so tough that thankfully nothing happened to me). The sole separated once but i got it stitched back by a cobbler and feels sturdier than ever. If shoes these days were that durable to begin with i dont think we'd have 50 bil shoes in landfills

    • @MarkKolomiets
      @MarkKolomiets Год назад +4

      Так и есть. Вещи делают одноразовыми и приучают нас считать что это хорошо.

    • @panzerxiiiextra2770
      @panzerxiiiextra2770 Год назад +2

      Well, not every type of activity can be done with a shoe like that.

    • @Edithmedjdoub
      @Edithmedjdoub Год назад +1

      So what about parties, you cant go to one with a woodland shoe

    • @displayname7t4
      @displayname7t4 Год назад

      why not @@Edithmedjdoub

    • @elementkx
      @elementkx Год назад +7

      @@Edithmedjdoub To quote the Buddha... "If it can't be done in a woodland shoe, you should not be doing it."

  • @timothyplumley6004
    @timothyplumley6004 Год назад +27

    This is such a great story and hopefully the world gets on board for these efforts to be fruitful.

  • @flashflame4952
    @flashflame4952 Год назад +5

    Any method to help reduce the enormous amounts of waste on the planet is a great idea that works!

  • @Romualdomgn84
    @Romualdomgn84 Год назад +23

    Better than recycling is second using. Means, that 90% of shoes (if you pay attention on the video) are almost "new" and worn for 10-20%. So these shoes could be easily given to charity organisations for second-hand usage.

    • @marivicveloso1325
      @marivicveloso1325 11 месяцев назад

      Yes totally and the shoes that have damage they should just try to fix it again have partnership with the companies where the shoes come from re make it if possible and those shoes that are really hopeless to be re build will take this kind of process so less electricity more people to employ more Man power that would take longer maybe and cost much unlike this fast machinery

    • @HASHBAR710
      @HASHBAR710 10 месяцев назад +2

      Yes but how will they make money?

    • @alexponte5814
      @alexponte5814 4 месяца назад +1

      I think there arent enough feet for the amount of shoes that would be given to charity. Furthermore, remember that pushing free or low cost products into an underdeveloped market leads to the destruction of the local industry and creates dependency. Same goes e.g. for unwanted chicken cuts that are exporter to african nations.

  • @Mike__B
    @Mike__B Год назад +16

    When I was a kid Adidas used to be a good shoe at a really cheap price, then got to be an expensive shoe with all sorts of athletes endorsing them. As an adult I loved Asics for that cheap shoe that was good quality... then they too started charging a bunch.

  • @wilson5377
    @wilson5377 Год назад +7

    This is great news, thank goodness!👌
    For doing our part to lessen recycling, i prefer buying old school shoes which last more than 10 years. These are stitched, comfy and most of all durable.
    The secret:
    buy 2 pairs of each, for example;
    1. Adidas Superstars - 2 pairs, 1 in black/white the other in white/black colorways.
    2. DocMartens chelseas, one crazyhorse brown and the other black.
    3. Lastly, flipflops same.
    These are all more than 15 years now.
    i do not care about fashion. Hate those injection molded crap with neon colors anyways. 😂✌

  • @petertwining5729
    @petertwining5729 Год назад +19

    Such a great video, seeing so many people involved in creating new and improved ways of helping the planet. Kudos to everyone and Thankyou to Insider for this brilliant video. 😊

  • @katalingyen1861
    @katalingyen1861 5 месяцев назад

    So good to see such people working for the greater good !Thank you for sharing . I went to a school back then , shoe maker . This is so cool !Reused not wasted !!

  • @MILABRRA
    @MILABRRA Год назад +1

    THIS CHANNEL ALWAYS HELPS ME LEARN SOMETHING NEW

  • @gerhardpretorius9954
    @gerhardpretorius9954 11 месяцев назад +2

    Excellent. Weldone. I pray that your business wil go world wide. Thank yoi four your ingenuity in this field.

  • @sbdiaries
    @sbdiaries 7 месяцев назад +1

    This sure is a great use of plastic waste ,and sure was interesting to watch ❤❤❤

  • @mahmga1
    @mahmga1 Год назад +4

    Just unbelievably awesome - My new heroes!

  • @BasitKhan-jr5rx
    @BasitKhan-jr5rx 10 месяцев назад +2

    HUGE RESPECT TO THEM.
    Making our earth clean and Mother Nature proud 🌀

  • @Alittlebraindead
    @Alittlebraindead 5 месяцев назад

    The blurred shot just took me the hell out 😭😭😭 you guys are just top tier

  • @adayinlife101
    @adayinlife101 6 месяцев назад +10

    recycling is just an excuse for this companies to cut cost. Ridiculous that the price are still sky high even with cheap materials.

  • @teamjack69
    @teamjack69 8 месяцев назад

    I love all of this especially that I'm a "sneaker head" and I love technology, so the mixture of both worlds is amazing to me!!! 💯🏆

  • @ashesonwool4011
    @ashesonwool4011 Год назад +17

    Upcycling is a start, but if we want to actually pivot to a more sustainable future we need to convince people that consumption is not the way. It doesn't help with a capitalistic economy though so its a difficult problem

  • @filippobaroli7206
    @filippobaroli7206 Год назад +7

    They need to understand that consumers want shoes of good quality and that can resiste the passing of time. Not just good material but you need to throw them away after 1/2 years.

  • @devdroid9606
    @devdroid9606 Год назад +5

    Buy leather, cotton, hemp,jute and re-sole the shoe. If someone can make a sport shoe that can be easily resoled and cleaned, it will help a lot. Michael Bloomberg, one of the richest men in the world, has worn his re-soled shoes for something like 10 years.

  • @MM-mq5uj
    @MM-mq5uj Год назад +7

    such amazing projects, hopefully they will turn to produce worldwide used products

  • @MighyMi124
    @MighyMi124 Год назад +5

    Nice recycling strategies!
    Those are the first steps for a better environment 👍🏼
    But it still produces microplastic. 🧐
    We need to leave the oil-based materials and use natural products which can be recycled by nature. 💪🏼

  • @cheleshows
    @cheleshows Год назад +1

    To be clear - Plastic is NOT something that naturally occurs anywhere including oceans.
    "Oceans plastics" is a poor attempt to make pollution SOUND less horrible.
    These businesses are wonderful. Helping our planet.
    Thank you.

  • @gamooor1386
    @gamooor1386 Год назад +13

    The truth is that all running shoes can be recycled 100% and still perform just fine. It's just companies convincing us that somehow it's less than, because it costs them money. And in my opinion, most major running shoe companies actual over-engineer their shoes when shoes should have less sole, wider toe box.

  • @gaius_enceladus
    @gaius_enceladus Год назад +4

    Great stuff!
    Very best wishes to these companies as they increase the recycling of shoes!

  • @catherinegreen8440
    @catherinegreen8440 Год назад +36

    Two problems: most of the factories where these incredibly expensive shoes are made are in the 3rd world by underpaid people who as seen in th video are applying toxic glue without ventilation protection AND companies would rather throw away perfectly good shows returned by customers rather than giving them to people who need them.

    • @chairpants
      @chairpants Год назад

      Like it or not, there will always be a third world to create cheap labour. It's never going to get better because that's how economy works. It doesn't work well of every country is rich and equal. Inequality is the engine for economy.

    • @carlosnino6476
      @carlosnino6476 11 месяцев назад +7

      Those issues aren’t so simple. Donating shoes in third world countries kills the local industry because why would you buy a shoe if you are being gifted all the returns? It happens in Haiti with clothing. Also, defectives shoes are defectives shoes, some are unwearable and will end up being thrown anyway
      Better to increase their wages for them to be able to buy themselves, and give them better work conditions.

  • @GeneralHiro
    @GeneralHiro Год назад +32

    The planet with 7.888 Billion people. Makes 50 Billion pairs of shoes EVERY YEAR! I think you just summed up the world waste issue...

    • @terrynicol2098
      @terrynicol2098 Год назад +10

      Who the heck buys 10+ shoes per year??

    • @OjStudios
      @OjStudios Год назад +3

      Any cloth should take the abuse for at least a year so that should be 7.8 versus 7.8 and we also need to count for poor people so you can substract.. yea that's ridiculous. Capitalism and constant drive for more money should just stop.

    • @mmadchef808
      @mmadchef808 Год назад +1

      @@terrynicol2098Way too many people.

    • @fofofofo3076
      @fofofofo3076 Год назад

      @@terrynicol2098not you or me but people got money to spend 😅

    • @BasilMinhas
      @BasilMinhas 9 месяцев назад

      @@mmadchef808The earth’s maximum capacity is around 11 billion people

  • @cristiansanchez3787
    @cristiansanchez3787 Год назад +2

    Extraordinario video gracias equipo insider y una felicitación a esa pareja de world runners hacen un trabajo increíble saludos desde México

  • @victoroluwatobi1531
    @victoroluwatobi1531 Год назад +1

    This video was really educative, enjoyed every bit of the video and wished it never ended. Kudos to insider business for bringing such informative view to our screen❤❤

  • @noelseidou9826
    @noelseidou9826 3 месяца назад

    Wow. This is educative and innovative..

  • @b22chris
    @b22chris Год назад +17

    There’s a company in the US that uses the rubber from old shoes to make rubber floors that go under basketball courts for cushion and spring

    • @g..._anthony27
      @g..._anthony27 6 месяцев назад +1

      Nike does that, I played on one

  • @irenekoo
    @irenekoo 8 месяцев назад

    These brilliant companies are saving the earth one shoe at a time.

  • @omartrachen6794
    @omartrachen6794 Год назад

    This is very insightful as an engineer in plastic processing.

  • @4Realkevv
    @4Realkevv Год назад +28

    Companys should have drop boxes for shoes and give u a discount coupon towards a new pair of shoes

  • @ChristopherStrong-sv4vy
    @ChristopherStrong-sv4vy 7 месяцев назад

    We done it great work guys!!

  • @tonybamgviews
    @tonybamgviews Год назад

    I don’t understand who would laugh and doubt an idea so brilliant and cutting edge 😂😂

  • @Void-e1q
    @Void-e1q 11 месяцев назад

    salute to these kind of people who think stuff like these, 👍

  • @sohanthkumar6170
    @sohanthkumar6170 4 месяца назад +1

    Most of these shoes have small defects and are good enough to be used or those defects to be corrected. But brands won't sell them. They find that selling these to the recycler is cheaper than correcting the defect. I think this just adds unnecessary cost. The door companies can just correct it for a small cost and it will be much useful than selling new unused shoes to recycle

  • @TheCharlie2l
    @TheCharlie2l 5 месяцев назад

    Great video! Very informative and interesting!

  • @辻勇志
    @辻勇志 11 месяцев назад

    Wow…people should know more about such work

  • @Juan-l7y9b
    @Juan-l7y9b 8 месяцев назад

    Love what Adidas is doing. Great video BI!

  • @madmanmechanic8847
    @madmanmechanic8847 Год назад +1

    WOW I LOVE THIS SO FREAKING COOL !

  • @gresh_studio
    @gresh_studio Год назад +2

    I had the opportunity to work in Dr. Mayfield's lab making BLUEVIEW shoes from 100% plants. Incredible company and team. Biomaterials are the future.

  • @ludgatecircus15
    @ludgatecircus15 Год назад +1

    Thaely - WOW. Impressive.

  • @daily9660
    @daily9660 Год назад +5

    Insider business forgot one key thing in this entire video.. Parley is the organization that harvests the plastics from the oceans to make these Adidas recycled material products possible. Please go deeper into detail.. it helps bring attention to organizations that help these big brands for the greater good.

    • @sohaibi2061
      @sohaibi2061 Год назад

      Yes, Parley created Adidas football boots with their use of ocean plastic waste. Really good way of making new trainers for footballers. ⚽👍

  • @GeneralHiro
    @GeneralHiro Год назад +11

    Maybe Producing nearly 10 pairs of shoes for each person on the planet lets move to a "Shoes on demand" model.
    you go to a store, try them on, you like them you order them. Order is received shoes get made and delivered to you.

    • @panzerxiiiextra2770
      @panzerxiiiextra2770 Год назад +4

      Unfortunately, made to order shoes in modern first world countries would either be super expensive or take a really long time to get delivered to the end consumer.

    • @kennedyblevins2174
      @kennedyblevins2174 9 месяцев назад +2

      And people are unwilling to wait in the modern world

  • @elizabethdean7235
    @elizabethdean7235 Год назад +1

    All the shoe companies needs to recycle them like this and make more shoes

  • @wertrocks123
    @wertrocks123 10 месяцев назад +1

    If you want to massively cut down on your footwear waste, just buy a pair of goodyear welted shoes. You can repeatedly replace the soles with leather (completely biodegradable) and the shoes themselves can last 20+ years if you look after them

  • @keyrongeorge2314
    @keyrongeorge2314 5 месяцев назад

    Wow it has people in the Carribean would love to have a pair or two of those shoes🙏🏿☝🏿💯

  • @kzookid545
    @kzookid545 Год назад +1

    Big reason I got into leather boots/shoes

  • @Alonso-fj4ge
    @Alonso-fj4ge 11 месяцев назад

    Esas zapas recicladas en mi país es oro, tienen hasta dos o tres vidas más.

  • @reniersoto6257
    @reniersoto6257 Год назад

    Looking forward to the full review! Curious to hear your thoughts on this GMT vs comprable watches like the Tudor BB Pro

  • @Hs5687
    @Hs5687 Год назад +2

    Love how these Green Industrialist avoid talking about making AFFORDABLE shoes from Recyclables … Amazing 😂🎉❤

  • @peggylaviolette8303
    @peggylaviolette8303 8 месяцев назад

    wow, all the shoe recyclers are geniuses.

  • @weAreNotAloneHere
    @weAreNotAloneHere 11 месяцев назад +1

    The fact there throwing away perfectly good shoes to try make more shoes from is so human

  • @muhammadumerfarooq4379
    @muhammadumerfarooq4379 9 месяцев назад +1

    Good process

  • @gudnergiovannilondono9396
    @gudnergiovannilondono9396 Год назад +4

    Is a pity not every country have a recycle system to every product. Netherlands and Denmark, as well for China, are the ones with more recycling programs. I would like in the case of Australia and I watching this video, Adidas, Nike, Asics and other showmakers joins and do a collection center to recycle used shoesz and probably to build a factory as those entrepreneurs. My respect to them

  • @DurianriderCyclingTips
    @DurianriderCyclingTips 7 месяцев назад

    Great power couple doing great for the planet!

  • @alibabar864
    @alibabar864 2 дня назад

    Well done Netherlands!

  • @oomz1975
    @oomz1975 11 месяцев назад

    Wow, those shoes made by the lad in India are dope.

  • @ssupriyanto
    @ssupriyanto 11 месяцев назад +1

    Plus those whose shoes can still be worn but throw them away when they get bored instead.

  • @roselyncampisi822
    @roselyncampisi822 Год назад +2

    ASICS are the best shoe! I have mine for 2 years and so comfortable

    • @EP-qi8ed
      @EP-qi8ed Год назад

      I love Asics Kayano for years now, but Asics produces too many styles and colorways, some of which are really ugly. In fact, the Kayano series has gotten uglier over the years. The foam sole is thick and looks orthopedic almost. Thank god they've gotten smart and gone back a decade to offer a previous Kayano model that everyone loved/loves that has a more classic design. I think they need to have AI study which styles / colorways are most in demand and create more of that and less of the ugly styles/colorways like royal blue paired with bright orange and a huge sole. Same goes for Nike, Adidas, and other famous athletic shoe brands.

  • @thecactusgentleman
    @thecactusgentleman 10 месяцев назад +1

    For the future 🌱

  • @janssengojar1863
    @janssengojar1863 Год назад +1

    Yeah and i think half of them landed in the Philippines shore.....UP for sale in ukay ukay store haha

  • @Innate75
    @Innate75 11 месяцев назад

    People like this, along with others like on the show Dirty Jobs, should get a lot more credit for what they do.

  • @Golden_bir
    @Golden_bir Год назад

    So good video 👏

  • @BasedSallad
    @BasedSallad Год назад +1

    What about the glue tho? There's still that aspect, still incredible that they've figured out a way to recycle

  • @silveritea
    @silveritea Год назад +3

    Funny how there aren’t stacks upon stacks of centuries old footwear lying around……. Only modern shoes have these issues.

  • @MichaelSheaAudio
    @MichaelSheaAudio Год назад +6

    It's great that there are companies doing things like this.
    I find it interesting that Asics says their recycled shoes are not made for performance, but neither are their other shoes. Sure, they cushion your feet, I wore Asics for the past 10 years, but that's about it. The shoes are actually not really helping you, our feet are capable of doing the work. Our feet need to be exercised just like any other part of our body, and shoving them into pillows that aren't even foot shaped aren't going to make your feet any stronger. We really don't need any of the special tech to run, we've only had fancy running shoes for a few decades, and people can still keep up when completely barefoot. Even the big shoe companies are lying to us. They know their shoes are bad for us.

  • @ToddScales
    @ToddScales 11 месяцев назад

    Amazing!

  • @slinkiegirl2001
    @slinkiegirl2001 11 месяцев назад

    i have heard of excessive food waste but footwear waste that is a new 1 on me scandalous

  • @goingwalkaboutnow
    @goingwalkaboutnow Год назад

    Very inspirational

  • @ababame
    @ababame 11 месяцев назад +1

    is just me or the shoes that are going to be recycled looks so nice and ready to be given to someone needy?

  • @elscruffomcscruffy8371
    @elscruffomcscruffy8371 10 месяцев назад

    The makers of shoes should be held accountable and initiate a recycling program from their own shoes once they are done. Even offer a discount!

  • @SethMethCS
    @SethMethCS Год назад +2

    What about mass refurbishment and rebuilding shoes which have life left in them or have one damaged element?
    Refurbish Instead of scrapping, shredding and melting down which breaks polymer chains and takes massive electricity.

  • @CaseNumber00
    @CaseNumber00 Год назад +2

    Want to cut down on waste? Builder Better and durable shoes. My dad bought a pair of Whites boots 33 years ago, older than me, and its been his primary shoe since then. Yes they did wear out but he went to cobblers and replaced the sole and lowers. He's dead now and I wear them. Tough quality materials have made last 33 years.

  • @濱澄相
    @濱澄相 Год назад

    Suggesy ethylene-vinyl acetate use SCF Injection molding will keep the cost down

  • @lornashimmon9478
    @lornashimmon9478 11 месяцев назад

    My daughter confiscated a pair of shoes that I had in tended to mend with glue. The sole of the heel was coming loose from the sole. Rubber glue or goo-glue was what I was going to use.?

  • @agebeabelaluma5401
    @agebeabelaluma5401 Год назад +1

    Nearly all of the 50 billion shoes produced yearly end up in landfills? I would need sources for that. This sounds terrifying.

  • @jayceco4055
    @jayceco4055 11 месяцев назад

    ❤❤❤ Thanks for saving the Earth 🌍

  • @carolr7823
    @carolr7823 Год назад +2

    I can't imagine wearing 100% plastic shoes. How hot.

  • @nancyvickers2814
    @nancyvickers2814 6 месяцев назад

    Did you tell us where we can take our shoes to be recycled? Most of the time I wear my shoes to the point I could not in good conscience donate them but I would love to take them to be recycled. So where do I take them?

  • @silverflame2501
    @silverflame2501 Год назад

    The world is HEALING❤❤❤

  • @Veronicat-of4nz
    @Veronicat-of4nz 5 месяцев назад

    There is a lot of room for waste in oceans. The big trenches are virtually empty so literally mountains of waste can be stored to oceans. People worry way too much about waste.

  • @makindepeter7736
    @makindepeter7736 6 месяцев назад

    Good work

  • @jonglewongle3438
    @jonglewongle3438 4 месяца назад

    I have a drop-off site for disused footwear, but they have to be laced runners [ which this video is almost entirely to do with anyway ]. It is a sports store, for sports attire. etc. I'll occasionally come across a discarded pair of runners and I'll drop them off there in the box provided. Having done that then I'll raid the nearby bins for deposit cans and bottles. That is the return which I get for doing that.

  • @litan114
    @litan114 8 месяцев назад

    very good video
    but DAMN - 1st world vs 3rd world technology

  • @roselyncampisi822
    @roselyncampisi822 Год назад

    They are amazing so smart!

  • @luhwah586
    @luhwah586 10 месяцев назад +1

    They put subtitles over people from Netherlands, but not over Indian guy :D

  • @josefinematildehansenvonki2384
    @josefinematildehansenvonki2384 Год назад +4

    I would love to send my rundown shoes to this factory❤ instead of throwing them to burnable 🎉🎉🎉

  • @Mark-mu4pj
    @Mark-mu4pj Год назад

    Great video

  • @nathanrobinson7715
    @nathanrobinson7715 6 месяцев назад

    That man should let me try a pair. To see if they last. I walk daily and go through the shoes. Mostly right shoe because of the way I walk

  • @slothgirl2107
    @slothgirl2107 Год назад

    small things like this that help the environment gives me hope for the future

  • @JUSTKOZ
    @JUSTKOZ Год назад +1

    11:43 Bruh They Got The Onitsuka Tiger Collab Shoe That Was Super Limited Around The World. Pretty Weird For A Guy That "Cares" About Recycling And All That Hogwash.

  • @martakavaliauskaite4566
    @martakavaliauskaite4566 Год назад

    Thank you

  • @jyvids
    @jyvids 11 месяцев назад +1

    Okay. But we're now spending double or more the energy to do this