A look inside an A8 GPS tracker. (It's really not!)

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024

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  • @combinedagent
    @combinedagent 4 года назад +140

    Your Mom was lucky to have a son like you to do all this for her. Even though she may not get what you are doing - you were there for her and that's what counts.

  • @Sammie1053
    @Sammie1053 7 лет назад +182

    Fascinating. The interesting thing about the "SOS" button is if I found this up on a shelf somewhere and was trying to figure out what it was, the first thing I would do is press the button. If someone were using it as a listening device, in call only mode, getting a call from the device would be their way of knowing it had been discovered.

  • @stephen3164
    @stephen3164 4 года назад +177

    I said “I wonder if NSA is listening. I wonder if China is listening too?” Then I laughed, NSA laughed, and China laughed.

    • @gamingforlive2150
      @gamingforlive2150 4 года назад +2

      how he know? his speakers

    • @privacyhelp
      @privacyhelp 3 года назад +9

      Well then now the US president controlled by china

    • @yuribrandi8212
      @yuribrandi8212 3 года назад +1

      *Then Russia came over the radio and laughed

    • @prakharmishra3000
      @prakharmishra3000 3 года назад

      @@gamingforlive2150 speakers can be used as microphones.

    • @Derek_Garnham
      @Derek_Garnham Год назад

      who laughed longest?

  • @BachikoiBabi
    @BachikoiBabi 8 лет назад +389

    I worked in a car dealership outside of Chicago. People would buy a car without any intention of making payments. Whenever we would find them and repossess the car they would always be amazed how we always found them. I personally installed about 500 GPS trackers in those cars... The customers would sometimes catch on so I had to start installing diversion trackers.... fake blinky trackers that are easy to find so the customer sees it and removes it and thinks they've gotten rid of it... but they were just a diversion. The real tracker of course wouldn't be blinky and in plain sight.

    • @memeses1175
      @memeses1175 8 лет назад +92

      Isn't that... Illegal?

    • @BachikoiBabi
      @BachikoiBabi 8 лет назад +125

      +Valentin Meneses Normally, yes. Its illegal. Knowing this, we of course have a clause in each contract where they have to sign acknowledging that the vehicle might or might not have GPS. As most of you probably do, the customers didn't read this... they just blindly signed the paperwork. Just goes to show that you should read what you sign, especially when it comes to a shady car dealership that offers in-house financing to people with no credit or bad credit with low down payments.

    • @BillyJoe1305
      @BillyJoe1305 8 лет назад +32

      +BachikoiBabi It's actually become quite common for car dealers that offer pay here type payment plans to lower income areas to install hardwired trackers that are also capable of shutting the car down (actually I think it just disables the starter). They get shoved pretty far into the wiring too. I bought a car from a junkyard that had one set off & since it was so damaged they sent it to the junkyard it was hard to turn back on. Never did manage to tear it out I got a wire from the foot well to bridge with a hot wire and then it started from the ignition, then you had to shut off the ignition and unbridge the wires to drive. Annoying little task for my little topaz. Great car, other than that and the giant car shaped dent in the side.

    • @thelol1759
      @thelol1759 8 лет назад +34

      +BachikoiBabi
      I'd be careful with that, it's unlikely to actually stand up in court.

    • @WheatMillington
      @WheatMillington 8 лет назад +25

      +BachikoiBabi Firstly, I don't believe your story which is almost certainly a lie. Secondly, if a dealership unknowingly installed a GPS in a car I purchased, I would never do business with them again.

  • @ddragon8154
    @ddragon8154 6 лет назад +12

    I looked into these a while ago, and though fun (For geo-caching games etc) they're not solid enough for applications where they are depended on. Due to the audio bug feature, they're also illegal in Germany.
    There are a few variants on this theme now, too. One being a USB charging cable with the basic bits of this (Sans battery) concealed in the USB connector, allowing spying on anyone you can give a USB cable to! :-o
    The "GPS" is actually "A-GPS" which is, basically, GSM triangulation. It works well, but only in areas where there's good GSM coverage.
    Finally: A lot of these trackers are suspected to also send their tracking output to unknown parties as well as the user operating it, so these should never be relied upon for confidential applications. :-)

  • @musicinspire1745
    @musicinspire1745 7 лет назад +9

    Clive, I like your videos. As an M.S. Electronic Engineer, I sometimes have problems conversing at a level laymen and novices can understand. You're teaching me how to speak on a different level than what I am accustomed with so many other professionals I work with on a daily basis. Keep up the good work, my friend.

  • @allabouthim03
    @allabouthim03 8 лет назад +170

    thanks for keeping me from buying the wrong thing.

    • @kowsalya.g8493
      @kowsalya.g8493 5 лет назад +1

      Carl Bradley I want to know the name of the tracker which he shown at very first

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 4 года назад +6

      Keep in mind that "Tracker" might just be an inaccurate translation from the Chinese "Voice Tracker", which obviously is not a GPS tracker. I've learned to be a bit leery when reading product descriptions especially on poorly translated Chinese products. ;)

    • @plageran
      @plageran 3 года назад +1

      Nothing wrong with spare parts and batteries lol

  • @darylbealottapayne8053
    @darylbealottapayne8053 7 лет назад +141

    I checked my ISO tables for "modest amount", but it doesn't appear to be an international standard for battery operating duration.

    • @omardude39
      @omardude39 5 лет назад +31

      I believe if you try the Internal Scottish Organisation tables it'll be right there in the middle.

    • @MarcoTedaldi
      @MarcoTedaldi 5 лет назад +5

      Must be one of those wired imperial units... ;)

    • @Alleroc
      @Alleroc 4 года назад +6

      I can confirm this is on the Imperial & Scotsman Organization table for things and lengths of stuff.

  • @ImtiazAli-eq1iv
    @ImtiazAli-eq1iv 9 лет назад +8

    Clive just to say that I loved watching these videos - you'd make a great teacher at a university!

  • @deadsi
    @deadsi 7 лет назад +122

    Lol modern alternative to 'lets put a bell on her'

    • @lloydmarriott756
      @lloydmarriott756 5 лет назад +2

      I once put a bell in her.....

    • @comanchio1976
      @comanchio1976 5 лет назад +13

      Lloyd Marriott You really shouldn't be fucking Alzheimer's sufferers. There's quite a substantial grey area (not just pubic) when it comes to the ability to competently grant consent.

    • @Envinite
      @Envinite 5 лет назад +6

      @@comanchio1976 jeez chill, its a joke dont be over dramatic

    • @Mike.Nov51
      @Mike.Nov51 5 лет назад +1

      d'edsi Wife or cat?

    • @diamondfailer11
      @diamondfailer11 5 лет назад +3

      @@comanchio1976 Your extreme arrogance and plain lack of respect say otherwise.

  • @MrToaster2112
    @MrToaster2112 8 лет назад +32

    Jesus Christ I thought your channel was "Big C Live" for months, until I watched this

  • @better.better
    @better.better 3 года назад +6

    I remember the early cell phones that I had if I wanted to use the navigation app for turn-by-turn directions it didn't use actual GPS it used triangulation from cell towers which had known GPS positions. if I was driving in the mountains and lost signal, God forbid I missed my turn or encountered a detour because the software would just dump the current route and try to query the server to build a new route and if I didn't remember how to get back to where there was signal I would be screwed.

  • @jlebrech
    @jlebrech 9 лет назад +46

    don't forget to ring that thing with a burner phone too

  • @paulmccoy2908
    @paulmccoy2908 3 года назад +3

    That module seems like it would fit nicely into a full-sized power bank and run from its battery. Not that anyone would ever do such a thing.

  • @theotherdave8013
    @theotherdave8013 Год назад +1

    MAN that seems so scary. Imagine an X gettin uspet and hunting you down with this device. "AH HAH! I KNEW IT! YOU DO DISHES FOR EVERYONE ELSE BUT ME!"

  • @toledomerendo
    @toledomerendo 8 лет назад +5

    Hey Clive! Love your channel, first of all! And second, could you perhaps do a review/in-depth analysis of the actual GPS tracker you wound up using?That'd be awesome because I'm contemplating putting one of those in my car as a way of tracking it if it ever got stolen.

  • @Ryansanders80
    @Ryansanders80 8 лет назад +22

    "find your car! find your kids!''

  • @rich1051414
    @rich1051414 9 лет назад +12

    Depending on how many nearby towers, cell phone tower triangulation can be extremely accurate. If the device can ping 3 towers, then the device can be tracked within a meter. That is a lot of if's tho.

    • @arenalife
      @arenalife 5 лет назад

      Only if it can give a bearing to each, which it can't.

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 4 года назад +1

      Plus it's got really small low gain antennas which makes it pretty inaccurate. Nowadays they've got plenty of cheap ($20) models with real GPS built in, just check on AliExpress.com ;)

  • @MiiaFoxx
    @MiiaFoxx 8 лет назад +60

    I wasn't even aware of devices like these being sold to the public.

    • @saltysean1241
      @saltysean1241 8 лет назад +1

      Same

    • @carlyonbay45
      @carlyonbay45 8 лет назад +20

      that's why is listed as a GPS tracker ..... it wouldn't be listed a bugging device as that would probably cause legal problems

    • @rollieroulston
      @rollieroulston 8 лет назад +20

      Why? It's literally just a mobile phone? Think about it, a mobile you can use to covertly listen to people, covertly record video or take pictures, you can also use it to track people via the GPS function. There are also apps that copy all keystrokes and send them to you, take remote screenshots, copy + remotely send their texts, emails, time call placed etc etc. Nearly any everyday consumer electronics can be used for covert surveillance, webcams, CCTV, phones, tvs, laptops and there's nothing illegal about such devices even if advertised for surveillance. You might run into problems if you got caught using them somewhere that wasnt your property, but that's completely different from making the devices illegal

    • @dralenvan
      @dralenvan 7 лет назад +9

      I think the difference with this piece of electronic is that it is made purposefully to be a bugging device. If someone finds a cellphone in a drawer which, theoretically, has bugging abilities, you will less likely be prosecuted. If someone found this A8 device in a drawer somewhere, your intent of bugging someone is crystalclear and your defence will be a hard one. Your logic can be easily turned around completely, making everyone who carries one of the electrical devices you mentioned a suspect.
      The law isn't just logic, it has to be reasonable and fair too in it's decisions.

    • @MiiaFoxx
      @MiiaFoxx 7 лет назад

      dralenvan Wait... why is this a reply to my comment?

  • @wimle
    @wimle 5 лет назад +3

    IT IS a proper tracker... your device doesn't have the antenna strip inside the case. You need to register your personal number using an SQ code so the device will recognize your phone number as the controller. Then a "DW" text will correctly send you GPS coordinates provided you loaded or topped up some credits into the account. But in your case, your antenna is missing. It's like a small strip of metal tape that goes around the top inside the case and touches that small spring-like metal at the corner of the circuit board.

  • @avp.69
    @avp.69 8 месяцев назад +1

    You think we could solder a bigger 2 pin mic on there for better audio capture?

  • @MylesNicholas
    @MylesNicholas 8 лет назад +3

    Nice GSM spy bug, good to leave in the conference room (cabinet room) or the bosses office.

  • @MrGoatflakes
    @MrGoatflakes 7 лет назад +1

    LOL what a sneaky thing! First the bogus GPS false advertising then the really sneaky stuff starts when you get it to work as intended! I love it! It reminds me of the old infinity bugs xD

  • @rogerrabbit6522
    @rogerrabbit6522 2 года назад +2

    I've a few of both the tracker and listener, when used together they are a powerful surveillance system. The listener works well alone in a room with a power pack, I found the early single 18650 battery ones quite good before they were all recalled. It's a shame they don't take a BL-2 battery.
    Do you have the instructions for the tracker/a review as I've lost my instructions.

  • @soundman601
    @soundman601 Год назад

    You have a website too! Oh Lord, now I will never get any sleep ;) Love your contributions to RUclips.

  • @robot797
    @robot797 8 лет назад +115

    that unit is great for hacking
    pull off the arm micro chip
    wire power ground and tx rx from the pcb to an arduino
    and you can build a mini gsm with power supply

    • @djdavidj5531
      @djdavidj5531 8 лет назад +3

      +robot797 Explain

    • @robot797
      @robot797 8 лет назад +41

      didnt i explain it already?

    • @djdavidj5531
      @djdavidj5531 8 лет назад +4

      You said you can hack it. Hack it how?

    • @robot797
      @robot797 8 лет назад +31

      in my firsth post i explained it
      take the prosessor out
      connect a arduino to the rx and tx pins of the gsm chip
      and then you have an arduino controlled gsm with build in power supply

    • @cukedaddy
      @cukedaddy 8 лет назад +5

      +robot797 I think they want to know what that will do.

  • @santopino2546
    @santopino2546 5 лет назад +7

    10:15 could be the ESD protection for the SIM card, I have them on my GPS modules from China and they are indicated as such in the schematic.

  • @keigun5546
    @keigun5546 7 лет назад +15

    This Video was in the german news today.. lol

  • @GeminiWoods
    @GeminiWoods 8 лет назад +33

    Just recently subbed to your channel. Good stuff, and informative. Also, your voice is like silk blowing in the warm breeze of a fresh spring morning. Ok... A little creepy... Sorry.

    • @ITSTIMETOSTOP
      @ITSTIMETOSTOP 8 лет назад +3

      I've compared his voice to Valium.

    • @tenderbrown1
      @tenderbrown1 6 лет назад

      Robert Breeden lol

    • @kennethbain4290
      @kennethbain4290 6 лет назад +3

      "Mellifluent" I think is the word you are seeking, Robert.
      Me, I thought it was just his pan-loafy Edinburgh-esque accent. :-)

  • @maximumvideodrome
    @maximumvideodrome 9 лет назад +1

    Although not close to the battery leads, I suspect that 8 pin chip is a battery management/charge controller chip. It's rare that a modern cell phone controller chip needs an op-amp for a microphone (that's usually built in an only needs a resistor/capacitor for signal). Also, the controller is not the cell phone module itself - pretty much guaranteed the GSM stuff is under the tin covered area. A GPS tracker could use a processor with far fewer capabilities and the android OS would be overkill because the GSM module does most of the computational work. As an audio bug, I bet the CPU is doing DSP functions to trigger audio spy mode, hence the reason the manufacturer selected that processor and/or they are storing a lot of data on that flash module. As far as the electronics on the LiPo battery, that is typical with most LiPo's (charge protection circuits) - no charge management lead otherwise. Just some thoughts, I could be wrong about some of this - I am no way an expert.

  • @ToddFun
    @ToddFun 9 лет назад +35

    From my understanding cell phone towers need to have very accurate timing so they can manage many phone signals at once by knowing the time delays between phone signals incoming / outgoing. And this rubidium clocks timing lets the tower as well as the phone calculate the distances. When the phone is able to ping two or more towers it can get a good fix on its calculated location, which is what 911 emergency services can use to triangulate the calling cell phone's location to just a few meters knowing nothing more than the location of the cell towers. Your device must be able to tap into or use that servers just like I can with my iPhone. I can click a button in my Apple account on any PC and it will show me where my iPhone is within just a few meters.

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 9 лет назад +7

      ***** 2 for any tracking, 3 for near perfect triangulation. With only 2 towers, you have to guess within 2 possible locations, which USUALLY is obvious, if one is a lake and the other is a building for instance.

    • @gadgetboyj
      @gadgetboyj 9 лет назад +14

      iPhones have GPS chips built into them, which is why you're seeing such a perfectly accurate location when you log into Find My iPhone. That being said, modern cellular devices use what they call A-GPS, which uses the distance from cell towers to get an approximate location which drastically cuts down the amount of time it takes the real GPS module to get a lock on the satellites. A standalone GPS without this assistance can take several minutes to get a lock, especially if it's been moved far away from its last location where it was previously powered on. With A-GPS, a device can get a lock in seconds, even after being moved across the world.

    • @ToddFun
      @ToddFun 9 лет назад +2

      gadgetboyj Good to know. I once had an old phone which for sure didn't have GPS. It only had a text screen and I had to call 911. The operator asked if I was on the corner of x and y and I was at that exact spot, so they must be able to get a good fix using just the cell tower distance calcs too. At least in a big city with lots of towers.

    • @ChrisTwitty
      @ChrisTwitty 9 лет назад

      ***** It might have had a-gps just for that purpose. AT&T used triangulation for a little while but a-gps is significantly cheaper and more accurate.

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 9 лет назад +5

      ***** Cell towers know where the device is, but the device does not necessarily know the distance from the towers, it simply keeps to its time slots assigned by the tower. There's currently a protocol, MSA, where the towers and the device share sufficient information to allow the device to usually triangulate itself, but at least in my area, i haven't seen it actually work.
      Smartphones generally use following information to determine their position:
      * IDs of connected towers. It can get locations of towers from an Internet service.
      * IDs of local WLAN base stations which broadcast their name, together with their signal strengths. There's an Internet service (operated by your smartphone's system provider) which returns location based on this list, and it's often scaringly accurate. Where does this service know the location from? Because another smartphone was nearby with its GPS turned on, and determined accurate location corresponding to the WLAN footprint, and sent it to that service. It's easy enough to keep WLAN chipset running in listening mode even when WLAN is not engaged, doesn't consume too much power.
      * And finally as mentioned by others, GPS. It's not even turned on that often, as it consumes quite a bit of power, unless the phone has no other accurate way to determine the location, or if it wants to know travel direction and travel speed, because GPS is really good at measuring those.

  • @GadgetBoy
    @GadgetBoy 8 лет назад +2

    Do you think that device would be able to power/charge itself off of a similarly sized solar membrane?

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 лет назад +3

      +Chris Roller It should be able to do so, but I'd suggest using an over-rated panel to make sure that it didn't run flat after several dull days. If the voltage falls too low it it might crash or lock-up and not reboot.

    • @GadgetBoy
      @GadgetBoy 8 лет назад +2

      +bigclivedotcom That's an excellent idea. I was just pondering ideas for increasing it's longevity. I'm a big fan of charging my devices with solar cells.

    • @zeronecker5576
      @zeronecker5576 8 лет назад

      +Gadgetboy This guy calls for green.

  • @winstonsmith478
    @winstonsmith478 9 лет назад +22

    That looks like "A8" on the front, not A2. They show up as A8 on eBay. ~$11.50 shipped for something that would have cost government spies thousands of dollars not that long ago. Wonderful, as if government spying isn't enough, any amateur snoop can massively violate privacy for $11.50. Here's the text from one of the eBay ads about this "GPS" device. Notice the mention of "surveillance operation" as the primary intended use of this device:
    How does it work:
    It's simple. Your surveillance operation will be underway in 4 simple steps:
    1. Insert a mobile phone SIM card in the device (E.G. free PAYG SIM card from O2 etc)
    2. Conceal the device where it cant be seen...
    3. Dial the pay as you go number from your phone.....
    4. Listen - now you can hear what they are really talking about...

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  9 лет назад +7

      Winston Smith Oops! You're right. I've changed the video title to A8.

    • @T.Q.
      @T.Q. 8 лет назад +3

      Not true. I can build these from scratch. If one has the materials in bulk, it should cost next to nothing compared to the retail price (which includes packaging, labelling, shipping etc) What is considered the latest technology to consumers is pre-approved and is considered almost ancient technology to the government. Much of it is never revealed to the average joe because the average joe can also be a no-good SOB.

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 5 лет назад +3

      Ahhh BigClive we finally saw *you* (as in your head) at 10:00 :D
      @TQ < It's really not worth wasting your time building one of these out of parts. Assembly along with fine microsoldering will cost you more in time (at least an hour) than it's worth just buying it ready made for only $12usd. Don't get me wrong I'm a huge hobby electronics fan and still built some gadgets by hand, but nowadays mass production has rendered the self-build model a moot point in most cases such as this, therefore due to the Time/Cost/Benefit ratio, it's just not worth building it yourself. ;)

  • @sbreheny
    @sbreheny 8 лет назад +34

    Could the little spring pin be a tamper protection feature? Like maybe it erases its memory if the case is opened?

    • @Heroedon
      @Heroedon 7 лет назад +7

      Had the exact same thought, or maybe it's a cheap/available component repurposed as an antenna.

    • @RedwoodRhiadra
      @RedwoodRhiadra 6 лет назад

      At the end he mentions the chip next to the ARM is a flash memory chip.

    • @nightshadelenar
      @nightshadelenar 5 лет назад +2

      might be a power switch, which kills the power to the unit. or the aforementioned tamperswitch, where it floods the flash memory with 0's

    • @wimle
      @wimle 5 лет назад +1

      No. The one in this video is missing the antenna. My Mini A8 has an antenna strip that goes all around the case and touches directly with that little spring at the corner. Without the antenna, the device won't be able to give you accurate location data.

  • @l1t7l3ph0o7
    @l1t7l3ph0o7 8 лет назад +2

    I wonder if that extra pin is for controlling an external load, like a relay or something. You send a text it turns on, you send a different text it turns off type of thing?

  • @dustinsmith8341
    @dustinsmith8341 7 лет назад +2

    I bought one of these 6 months ago and gave up on it when I had to pay for the chip as well. I bought a very cheap sim chip but didnt want to activate it not knowing if it could work or what it would do since there is like NO help from manufacturer and the website seemed weird. I threw it into a drawer. Now I see this and might dig it out and throw a few dollars onto that chip.

  • @pkundrat
    @pkundrat Год назад

    Nice video - may i ask what is the monocular/spyglass device you are using?

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  Год назад +1

      If it's the illuminated magnifier then it's a random one from eBay that is usually quite hard to find in a sea of other types.

  • @emmetor
    @emmetor 9 лет назад +1

    I would love to see one of these available which is self charging, similarly to a self wound watch, and which provides kid's bags with anti-kidnap gps

  • @douglastynyparc
    @douglastynyparc 8 лет назад

    I found this out about my A8, pointed out to the seller that it is not a GPS tracker and got my money back no problem!

  • @danielchandler15
    @danielchandler15 3 года назад

    Pretty neat little device still even though it isn't a GPS tracker. I need something like this for my Grandmother. Since pagers aren't a thing anymore, at least to my knowledge....

  • @PhilVapes
    @PhilVapes 8 лет назад +1

    Really interesting device. Could use this in my house security - but then again I prefer implementing things like those myself. :P

  • @TheWizechatmgr
    @TheWizechatmgr 9 лет назад +9

    What model is the larger/better "awesome" one?
    Thinking of tossing one in my 6 year old's backpack.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  9 лет назад +11

      +TheWizechatmgr Generically called TK102. I recommend getting a suitable charger for the batteries it takes (usually a generic Nokia cell) and getting at least one spare cell so you can swap in a freshly charged one every morning.

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr 9 лет назад +3

      Cool, thanks!

    • @umaiskhan7026
      @umaiskhan7026 8 лет назад +3

      +TheWizechatmgr I know I'm a bit late on this but I'd recommend the tkstar look it up on ebay! it costs a bit more than the TK102 usually priced at about £25 but the battery lasts up to I think about 5 days I use to charge mine every 3 days or so. (Used it for my car) Comes with a app for your phone and everything :D Has live tracking on the app with a decent refresh rate (15 seconds adjustable to your requirement but 15sec is the lowest)

    • @TheWizechatmgr
      @TheWizechatmgr 8 лет назад +1

      +Maissy Kay thanks!

  • @jtcressy1
    @jtcressy1 7 лет назад +3

    9:25 Actually i'm fairly certain the ARM processor uses the other chip you referred to as the "phone" chip as RAM. It should be a memory module. The "phone" part of this device is just software and we've only got a GSM radio underneath the EM shielding.

  • @IntruderPL2
    @IntruderPL2 5 лет назад

    I know it was a while. How much time does the real GPS locator(on the right) works on battery while in live tracking mode? Will it make it for 24hrs while refreshing it's position like once per 5 minutes?

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  5 лет назад +1

      Things will have changed since I used the TK102 units about 8 years ago. They could log their position in internal memory or send it, but I doubt the internal battery would have lasted long doing that. You could add an external battery though.

    • @IntruderPL2
      @IntruderPL2 5 лет назад

      @@bigclivedotcom Big thanks for the reply. I'm looking for something not to pricy that would sent me it's coords live every 3-10 mins (supposedly via GPRS) for at least 24hrs. Is there anything you'd recommend?

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  5 лет назад

      @@IntruderPL2 You can get a lot of different GPS trackers on eBay now. It might be worth experimenting.

    • @IntruderPL2
      @IntruderPL2 5 лет назад

      @@bigclivedotcom Well, that's some solution I don't have time for. I'm looking for an already tested device. :) Thank you for your time again :)

  • @WS-gw5ms
    @WS-gw5ms 9 лет назад +1

    Great video. I'm sorry to hear about your mother.

  • @aimeevaughan7913
    @aimeevaughan7913 8 лет назад

    Hello big Clive! I sadly brought a mini A8 to track my grandad when he goes walk about and gets lost. Glad it only cost £10!
    I've now brought the TK102 as you sold it to me when reading your website! I was wondering if you knew how much data you used? I've brought a giffgaff sim and brought a £10 goodie bag which comes with 1gb of Internet and the messages and minutes. Or does it just use top up like mentioned in your post?

  • @NicholasAarons
    @NicholasAarons 8 лет назад

    Awesome Video Clive. Very Cool Teardown. Keep up the great work. Nick.

  • @mr.x4477
    @mr.x4477 7 лет назад +1

    Hi clive can i modify this to use it as a switch ?
    For example put a switching transistor to the mic output ?

  • @bradmad8346
    @bradmad8346 8 лет назад

    In the USA cell sites have the X Y Z receive inputs split to allow a device with the name True Position added, I think the information then sent back other sites, which by using triangulation gives a location, I have only seen these as I do 2-way radio, but we collocate with cell carriers, it is not GPS but it does work.

  • @Mediamarked
    @Mediamarked 9 лет назад

    Gonna make this into a anti theft device for my moped, just bought 2 for experimenting with. When I'm flying my fpv quad, I usually have to walk a few miles/ km to get to quiet spots, and by doing so- I've almost had my moped stolen 2 times now. When I get called, I can hurry back to my moped, with at least a little chance of catching the thieves in person. That, combined with a pinhole camera in my buddyseat, should make attempt of theft a lot less painfull. As I also have a A3 sized printer and laminator- and the sheer willpower of hanging up hundreds of photos xD

    • @etherealrose2139
      @etherealrose2139 3 года назад

      You know, you could wire a relay to it to cut power or even wire an inline fuel cock switch to turn off the fuel. I suppose they can lift it up into a truck but they aren't going to ride off on it.

  • @aihome242
    @aihome242 7 лет назад

    The red LED light is it always supposed to be on? mine seems to be. not matter how insignificant it consumes power and does not help the whole "covert" thing

  • @spapartyfans
    @spapartyfans 7 лет назад

    would it be possible to program a gsm sim to work with a service like lookout mobile so you can locate the device? or would it need another microchip on the arm to locate the sim this way? Im gonna try to figure out if this can be done with a freedom pop chip. thanks if you save me some research.

  • @bradleymathie1167
    @bradleymathie1167 7 лет назад

    Technically you could narrow down the location of the device using only cell towers, But you need to have a few of the cell towers listed to triangulate against them.
    While its not GPS which can average around 5 meters, If you can get 4 or more towers (when it reconnects / cycles / moves) then you can some times get around 100 to 500 meters accuracy.. But all this requires processing, eg checking the signal strength vs the towers location and so on..
    This is a common fall back when the GPS module itself can not obtain a sat fix, common when in a shed/house/some where that the sky is not visible to the device..
    As usual, love the video's clive

  • @hankwaffles
    @hankwaffles 8 лет назад +12

    when I watch your videos I feel like I'm back in 5th grade science class, that's a good thing.
    Can you do a video on a cheap 18650 battery charger because I know they are disasters waiting to happen

    • @Mike.Nov51
      @Mike.Nov51 5 лет назад

      Hank Waffles Love the name Hank :)

  • @davidreynolds4684
    @davidreynolds4684 3 года назад +1

    I just checked that unit out yesterday. It said its one of the most used devices in the uk.

  • @Tangobaldy
    @Tangobaldy 9 лет назад +4

    If you call this in the uk and listen remotely then your committing a criminal offence if you leave it in a private residence or workplace. Not so sure about public places. Use with caution or your going to jail.

  • @Fifury161
    @Fifury161 5 лет назад +1

    Any chance of revisiting these devices? Looks like there have been a lot of new models released!

  • @OtakuSanel
    @OtakuSanel 9 лет назад

    it is a fully capable tracker but the feature may have been disabled. if you get the signal strengths of more than 1 tower you can triangulate the position but there might be laws prohibiting this feature so it may have been gimped to only allow access to a single tower

  • @alejandrofranco4669
    @alejandrofranco4669 8 лет назад

    Excuse me so the one who has the android logo don´t works? and What about the other?, it is possible to monitoring the device by an app in my phone. I'm asking this because I dont speak English as well. and Finally Wich device do you recommen?

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 лет назад +3

      The TK102 trackers are very good. These devices in this video are just really listening devices.

    • @alejandrofranco4669
      @alejandrofranco4669 8 лет назад

      thank you so much

  • @MCPicoli
    @MCPicoli 9 лет назад

    Maybe the unknown "contact" at the corner is a switch, for detecting tampering with the device. When the case is open, the switch is activated and all memory on the device/SIM card is erased? Or maybe (if not a switch), some kind of connection for an external antenna?

  • @Ron23604
    @Ron23604 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks almost bought it thinking it's a GPS as sellers claim

  • @preinstalleduser2309
    @preinstalleduser2309 6 лет назад

    I've been looking for a inexpensive GPS logger that doesn't use a SIM card, have any recommendations?

  • @the1spyderryder
    @the1spyderryder 4 года назад

    I bought several of those known as A GF07 ALSO THERES A GF 09 THAT RETURNS A LOCATION OF THE NEAREST TOWER .. neither works as a GPS. A few of the 07s came in pieces electrically they worked but only would call or could be call but never returned a position.

  • @hill1972
    @hill1972 8 лет назад

    Very interesting, as you say not what it says it is, but useful none the less

  • @Noniksleft
    @Noniksleft 7 лет назад +2

    is there (at least) a 3g version now 2g is shutting down in places?

  • @mgunter
    @mgunter 7 лет назад +1

    This should be in the next Hitman game to find out when people go in the room.

  • @asperkins
    @asperkins 9 лет назад

    Purchased one of these recently. Charged it up, then inserted an activated, tested, SIM card. After a couple of seconds the led starts flashing on and off and never stops. It doesn't seem to be working, but I have no clue what a blinking red led indicates. Any thoughts?

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  9 лет назад

      Tony Perkins Is the SIMs password function disabled? Make sure the holders contacts look clean and in position. Some networks SIMs don't work.

    • @asperkins
      @asperkins 9 лет назад

      bigclivedotcom Thanks for the reply. The SIM I'm trying is a ptel brand that is freshly activated and works fine in my phone. I also tried my tmobile sim card. Same results with both. I may just have to try some other brands I guess. Thanks again for the reply. BTW, I thoroughly enjoy you channel and always look forward to new videos. Cheers.

  • @NS10011
    @NS10011 8 лет назад

    I have been looking for something to attach to my drone, Just incase i loose it or something, this was the perfect size when i saw it, but you killed my dreams after seeing your review lol. That would be the perfect size to attach small light.

  • @HPCer
    @HPCer 7 лет назад

    I am pleased I watched this good video - was all set to buy one.

  • @CyberRecycle
    @CyberRecycle 9 лет назад +7

    so there isn't any sign of GPS circuitry? but it does function as a GSM bug...
    disappointing, but a great find.
    ** 2 stars for the device
    ***** 5 stars for the video

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 4 года назад

      Nowadays they've got plenty of cheap ($20) models with real GPS built in, just check on AliExpress.com ;)

  • @jonbroomfield2353
    @jonbroomfield2353 8 лет назад

    could the springloaded pin be an anti-tamper device so it would know if its been opened & call/text to tell you you've been found out??

  • @life-is-std
    @life-is-std 9 лет назад

    One of the listings said you need to send SMS with GPS if you are outside China. Have you tried that?

  • @truthfullythebestplayer3679
    @truthfullythebestplayer3679 5 лет назад

    What is the brand of the GPS tracker that you said is very good? thanks.

    • @und4287
      @und4287 5 лет назад

      It's called a TK102. Just search "TK102" on eBay and you will usually find one under $15.

  • @fizalex6612
    @fizalex6612 7 лет назад

    I love your channel so much.

  • @djocelyn40
    @djocelyn40 8 лет назад

    Lol Clive I has watched quite a few of your videos, I has no idea why, you are addictive in your mundane endeavors XD

  • @stuartcarson9378
    @stuartcarson9378 9 лет назад +12

    Can you post a link to the device you use to look at the chips please.

    • @Tangobaldy
      @Tangobaldy 9 лет назад +1

      Its a magnifying glass

    • @stuartcarson9378
      @stuartcarson9378 9 лет назад +1

      I know that but his was different.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  9 лет назад +9

      Stuart Carson www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Illuminated-15x-Hand-Hold-Jewelers-Eye-Loupe-Magnifier-Magnifying-glass-W-LED-/251655497897

    • @stuartcarson9378
      @stuartcarson9378 9 лет назад

      Thanks Clive.

    • @obsgr1
      @obsgr1 9 лет назад +4

      bigclivedotcom You sound similar to Scott Manley...

  • @212MPH
    @212MPH 7 лет назад

    Very interesting as always Clive.

  • @TheChipmunk2008
    @TheChipmunk2008 9 лет назад +60

    Clive: "Theres an 8 pin chip"
    Me: IT'S A 555

    • @Kingkoopa00
      @Kingkoopa00 9 лет назад +33

      ***** FYI, They do make other 8-pin chips that aren't 555s.

    • @mckryall
      @mckryall 9 лет назад +9

      King Koopa Yeah, quite a few, actually.

    • @Logarithm906
      @Logarithm906 9 лет назад +8

      mckryall Yup, my favourite is the ATtiny85.

    • @v000000000000v
      @v000000000000v 9 лет назад +14

      there are hundreds of ics that use the dip8 smd package

    • @nielsjrgennielsen25
      @nielsjrgennielsen25 7 лет назад

      Opsætning af gps alarm

  • @ciccioformaggio6897
    @ciccioformaggio6897 7 лет назад

    I also removed the button. I
    connected the button contacts to a relay controlled by a pir for making
    a small handheld anti-theft and so I wanted to know if there was a
    system to turn on and off SOS via sms.

  • @krushangitejasprajapati9918
    @krushangitejasprajapati9918 2 года назад

    In a8 model audio can listen but when we write DW it Shaw error address not Shaw GPS link.... How to slove it..sim is active n recharge fully

  • @CliveReyes
    @CliveReyes 7 лет назад

    They should implement a "circuit fryer" circuit that has a high-capacity capacitor which would fry the SIM whenever the cover is opened if "stealth mode" was activated.

    • @LiEnby
      @LiEnby 6 лет назад

      Achmed interesting idea :)

  • @keco185
    @keco185 3 года назад +1

    Could be a good cheap security system. Leave it in your car and it'll call you if it hears a loud noise like someone breaking the glass

  • @HighestRank
    @HighestRank 5 лет назад +2

    Unregistered SIM cards in the USA don’t get any activation at all, no calls in nor out, and no phone number to even test a text.

    • @leexgx
      @leexgx 4 года назад +1

      He means PAYG as they don't norm require any personal information to activate (unless your county requires by law that they are tied to your Identity, I know only 3 that do it)

  • @DarcyWhyte
    @DarcyWhyte 5 лет назад

    That's interesting. We're looking for the video version of that to send up to near space in a balloon. We figure we can get back the images through gsm when it gets close enough to a tower...

  • @nigeljohnson8022
    @nigeljohnson8022 8 лет назад

    Cool video. I bought one of these a while ago and your right they are not a true tracker buy the nature of how it works. Are you an electronics specialist by trade? I work for the RAF as an electronics tech, Radar is my speciality but able in electronics with model railways etc.

  • @SSFproductions1
    @SSFproductions1 9 лет назад +10

    The MT chip is a CPU mostly used for chinese/junk android phones
    . MT= Mediatek ## . This is probably a Android running "tablet" without a screen. There are many small android computers with a HDMI port, then you have a android computer.

    • @SSFproductions1
      @SSFproductions1 9 лет назад +1

      SSFproductions1 Sorry, didnt see the video all the way lol.

    • @primusloy
      @primusloy 9 лет назад +7

      SSFproductions1 Mediatek is not junk... it one of the largest chip fabricators and the most successful CPU manufacturers ...

    • @Maxjoker98
      @Maxjoker98 9 лет назад +4

      SSFproductions1 It's for sure not running Android with a clock of 26/52MHz & 320K SRAM...

    • @tommcmahon14
      @tommcmahon14 7 лет назад

      SSFproductions1 most Chinese phones are better than big brands like apple, Samsung, Motorola etc

  • @ultim8brickie
    @ultim8brickie 7 лет назад

    hi, how do you program your own number in it for it to call you ? had one of these at home for years and never used it, lost the instructions, regards

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  7 лет назад

      When you call it, it returns the calls to the same number.

  • @johngalv9288
    @johngalv9288 5 лет назад

    so? is it a tracking devise or not? I'm looking for a good tracker/locator devise. thanks

  • @jtmmccallum6291
    @jtmmccallum6291 8 лет назад

    Hey clive, I just can not get my tracker to call my cell at all. I am refering to the bigger one. These Japanese converted instructions are hare to follow. Can you help me to set it up? It is telling me to call the tracker 10 times to set it up then dial it up with admin123456,space,cell#. But I just cant get it up and going, your help would save me head from banging it against the bloody wall. Thanks

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 лет назад

      +Jtm McCallum Make sure that your SIM card doesn't have a PIN code enabled. If it's a TK102 you can find info on my website at:- www.bigclive.com/gps.htm

  • @WestonHettinger
    @WestonHettinger 6 лет назад

    What are the specs on that battery? How long does it last? What is a "modest time?"

    • @WestonHettinger
      @WestonHettinger 6 лет назад

      Is there a device that does both?

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  6 лет назад +1

      Technically speaking you could add a connector and an external battery. There's a GPS tracker that you can call called a TK102. But it doesn't act like an alarm like this one.

  • @75IFFY
    @75IFFY 8 лет назад +4

    So how many has Murdoch bought for his reporters?

    • @T.Q.
      @T.Q. 8 лет назад

      Probably bought in bulk from manufacturer. lol

  • @Rosa_AI
    @Rosa_AI 7 лет назад

    I really like the idea,sadly belgium just put up a law every sim card subscription and prepaid needs to be registerd with a eID before it can be used...

  • @AMindInOverdrive
    @AMindInOverdrive 8 лет назад +15

    3:02 - Regarding non-registered sim, you might still be identified (by say authorities if it came to that) if you are calling it from your own cell phone...even if you use a non-registered sim in your own cell. I could be wrong but I thought your phone's unique IMEI number is transmitted to the cell network each time you make a call from it. You'd have to be careful about that.

    • @darylbealottapayne8053
      @darylbealottapayne8053 7 лет назад +12

      Buy a burner phone for $15.

    • @chaugan
      @chaugan 7 лет назад +1

      Not every country have phones you can buy where you don't need to register.

    • @Buggerme75
      @Buggerme75 7 лет назад

      MJ D yeah in my country you gotta register it on purchase even if its a 50 dolla pre paid phone from a supermarket.

    • @Buggerme75
      @Buggerme75 7 лет назад

      MJ D it wasn't like that whrn phones first came out as you know, but people misused throw away phones. I think you gotta register even for a pre paid simcard

    • @hellterminator
      @hellterminator 7 лет назад +1

      +Immortal Depends where you live. In Czech Republic you can buy SIMs even in grocery stores with cash (no registration) and cheap (~$20) cellphones in every electronics store (again, cash, no registration).

  • @mahmoudothmanekhelassi7405
    @mahmoudothmanekhelassi7405 6 лет назад

    hey. what affordable gps tracker do you recommend? thanks

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  6 лет назад

      TK102 trackers have been round for a long time and seem to be a standard.

  • @dooronron69
    @dooronron69 9 лет назад

    will do, another user said his took all morning before it suddenly started to work, will leave sim in all night and try it in the morning, Thankyou for your advice, :-)

  • @HillbillyRednecking
    @HillbillyRednecking 7 лет назад +6

    I always get you confused with "Great Scott"

  • @danielsute7133
    @danielsute7133 8 лет назад

    Would this device work through a pocket, do you think?

  • @matthewvibert5906
    @matthewvibert5906 9 лет назад +3

    i saw you on banggood, thats how i got here. thanks for the information :P

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  9 лет назад

      Is there one of my videos on Banggood?

    • @elexs8754
      @elexs8754 9 лет назад

      bigclivedotcom haha, i thought poeple sent those videos in. guess not

    • @matthewvibert5906
      @matthewvibert5906 9 лет назад +3

      bigclivedotcom no, someone commented about this device saying it doesnt do GPS.

    • @elexs8754
      @elexs8754 9 лет назад

      aha, that explains it

  • @madfiat8932
    @madfiat8932 8 лет назад +1

    A "Tile" in the purse is something that won't run down the battery every day. I keep a Tile in the glovebox of my car.

  • @kowsalya.g8493
    @kowsalya.g8493 5 лет назад

    Please tell the first tracker's name or brand the one which was bigger, he showed it in beginning

    • @kowsalya.g8493
      @kowsalya.g8493 5 лет назад

      Please anyone tell me

    • @wwsxa39
      @wwsxa39 4 года назад

      @@kowsalya.g8493
      www.ebay.co.uk/itm/392591269974