THE MARKS - PART 1 - Racing Rules Episode 4 - Marks and who is entitled to room?
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If rounding a mark as necessary implies tacking on to port as you round the mark, do those behind you on starboard, who previously had to give mark room now obtain right of way. Of does mark room include room to tack onto port ahead of boats previously giving mark room. In other words when does Mark room end in such a situation. My guess it should be room to take onto port and subsequently room or time to keep clear.
This was the first time I understood how Rule 18 relates 10, 11, 12, and 13. Thank you!
This video set dramatically raises the bar compared to what was available on the net before. Bravo! I see there are a few complaints about audio, although I understand him fine. This is NOT the speaker's fault, it is a problem with the recording. When this was recorded, the audio recording volume was 'blown out', above -6dB peak volume. I have made that mistake more often than I can count, and afterwards there is little that can be done to fix it. When recording, keep an eye on the recording volume meter, and adjust input down so it never red-lines. It is fairly easy to dial slightly low volume up with audio software, but once you get those capped volume peaks, there isn't much that can be done. The other thing that would help would be to use a good quality mic, supported within a few inches of the speakers mouth, ideally together with a pop filter. Even so, great video!
Thank you for the video.
The voice in this video is extremely hard to understand at certain tones. The knowledge is excellent, but picking up on the commentary is difficult with the deep/scratchy voice.
So Jon is going to do the useless bit? 3:45
Nice tip to force the inside boat to tack at 20:50
Good learning overall, thanks.
At 9:38,as blue reached the zone before green did,is green not the one who has to give mark room?Doesnt the mark rule apply before the port/starboard rule?
Blue was first to enter the zone, but when she entered, green was inside overlapped with her. Green was entitled to mark-room, see 18.2(b).
Chris In your corridor for slide 2 if yellow tries to sail her proper course (wide in close out) she will sail out side of the corridor. Is she entitled to this room? The definitions for mark room does not mention seaman like way
Jonathan
Hi Jonathan, please see our Q&A here: www.rya.org.uk/racing/racing-rules/Pages/ryaracingrulessixweekseries.aspx
If two boats are heading downwind on starboard jibe toward s a port rounding mark, they have been overlapped for some time, just before entering the zone the outside (just) overlapped boat turns up a bit to break the overlap (transom line) and calls no overlap - no room, and when in the zone turns back down toward the mark, the overlap is now re-established again two boat lengths from the mark, is the inside boat required to keep clear, or is he still entitled to room ?
Thanks
Hi, please see our Q&A here: www.rya.org.uk/racing/racing-rules/Pages/ryaracingrulessixweekseries.aspx
The explanation by using the term "corridor" (something not defined in the RRS), just confused me further.
A fantastic series continues! It's a privilege to hear from such high-ranking officials and rules experts. I have two questions:
1) ~21:43ff., re. mark room at a leeward mark. Rule 18.2 does *not* apply to boats entering the zone of a windward marks on opposite tacks... but it does apply to boats on opposite tacks entering the zone of a leeward mark, correct? I believe I was erroneously taught that mark-room (inside overlap) rules only applied to boats on the same tack upon reaching the zone. However, unlike most right-of-way situations in which the language of 'overlap' is only germane to boats on the same tack, rule 18 does not require this, and your presentation confirms that overlap is determined independent tack at a leeward mark (whereas the obligation to keep clear remains). So if I enter the leeward zone on port tack, inside-overlapped with a boat on starboard tack (sailing by the lee), I must keep clear, but she must give me a corridor for mark-room, correct? Once she gybes to port I must still keep clear (for different reasons), but I am still entitled to a corridor/mark room. Is that right?
2) Here's a scenario I've encountered more than once. Suppose boat A enters the zone clear ahead of boat B, hot on her heels, or else boat B is already outside-overlapped of A at the zone. B considers a diving inside for a tight button-hook at the mark, but recognizes that she must anticipate A sailing as tight to the mark and as high as possible, and that, were she to safely pass A to windward at the mark, A could luff her. So instead, B stays outside and tight to A's starboard quarter. However, A stuffs the rounding as she exits the mark--fouling her sheets, losing power, and side-slipping... accidentally at first, and then bearing away while she tries to regain power. During this process B, who was already overlapped to leeward (or else quickly became so with A's loss of speed), is unable to sail her course, bearing away significantly lower than close-hauled to avoid contact. B protests, claiming that A had completed mark-rounding (i.e., had been given room), and that A's unseamanlike rounding resulted in her not keeping clear of B, the leeward boat. Does B have a case?
Thanks much!
Cameron
Hi Cameron, please see our Q&A here: www.rya.org.uk/racing/racing-rules/Pages/ryaracingrulessixweekseries.aspx
@@badassniall Brilliant--thank you for such thorough, informative explanations.
club 'folk-law' can cause ugly discussion, I shall keep clear from it and refer to this vid instead. thanks a bunch!
It's too hard to understand the speaker. Get someone to do a better voice-over.
agreed
Terrible voice! As if he really didn’t want to speak!