It’s crazy that everyone else can win a title but when Steph does, it’s a gap year Hahahha. But Denver beat Miami it’s not a gap year hahaha dude is wild
It's ridiculous bro, all they look at is numbers not realizing teams gameplan completely different for him then they do any other player in the league.
He actually did Steph a favor with that hypothetical ranking if the playoffs started today… I would argue Steph is closer to 10 than 1 in that ranking Jokic Luka Giannis Ant-Man AD LeBron KD maybe SGA
It's been like this his whole carrer. It's cowardice. They stole from him a Finals MVP, an Olympic Games MVP and they refuse to give him another season MVP. Btw, Jokic has THREE co-stars to help him. THREE! But Curry can't win, all because Steph is "small" or idk what bizarre excuse. When it comes to Steph they always move the goal post for MVP, even though Steph is the clutchiest player or among the clutchiest for years! 12 points flurry in clutch time, without a miss, in only 3 minutes, two threes, two infiltrations, the dagger ball... What more does Wardell have to do??? 🤦♂️
You lost me 50 seconds into the video when ask if playoff started today u pick luka over Steph is crazy..dat dude plays zero defense that’s y he’ looks so good on offense smfh
The hate on on Steph is crazzy … yes, the Boston Celtics were the Boston Celtics in 2022 … they were ready and in fact blew out the Warriors in Game 1 of that series … and still lost the series … Curry’s greatness and game has never been predicated on crazy athleticism … anyone that knows hoops knew the that Curry’s game would age well, and it has… his cardio is second to none. Luka, great game and skill set , but he’s chubby. That’s a no no when you’re being talked about as being MVP of the league and you’re the best player on your team. Giannis? You just mentioned he is entering a weak part of the schedule so that should help him get to 500. Not very impressive if you ask me, why can’t he beat the above 500 teams? The only player that is above Steph right now is is the Joker. That’s it
No don’t flip it now. Don’t say that 2022 was a gap year. The celtics were still the heavy favorites that year and don’t forget the suns were heavily favored in the west too. If the celtics faced another team that year, they’d be champs for sure
It’s hilarious that this guy talks as if we’ve seen a marked decline in Steph’s athleticism. Where!? Give a single example. He’s just learned to play smarter.
Did you actually look at the stats for this season? Both SGA and Luka are doing much better than Steph, even Kyrie is. And that's taking into consideration that Luka is playing his worst in a while and Steph is HOT right now. The guy is a legend, but he's objectively not better than these guys.
@ are you serious? You must not watch the games, just box scores huh. STATS DONT WIN YOU GAMES, CLOSERS DO. In your estimation wilt has to be the best play to ever grace the planet (tell that to his finals record). Steph has been injured for games ofc his stats aren’t gonna be the best. BUT he has over 70 points in the last 2 games and crazy assist numbers to go with it, while close to 2 steals a game. He’s beat the guys you said he’s better than with no all star help just great play. Who highlighted this guys comment??? Goofy. I also don’t care that Chet got hurt, gsw has been cycling through injuries too.
@@AbcDino843 They are not MUCH better they are slightly better, and they play way more minutes than him. Per 36 sga averages 30, 6 and 7. Luka averages 27, 7 and 7. Curry averages 30, 6 and 8 per 36. He just doesn't have the minutes
2022 Celtics were the number 2 seed in the east, they were #1 in net rating, they were the #1 defense, and they had that year's DPOY......absolute disrespect towards what the Warriors accomplished that year. Your biggest criticism of the Warriors last year was that they couldn't beat teams over .500, despite the fact that they were missing Draymond for a large chunk of the season, yet you are giving a pass for the Celtics for the same? What gives?
True he lost a huge amoint of credebility when he said the lakers freethrow disparity to other teams is normal when other channels have been saying like that theyre FTs is like a thousand more next to the closest one
In Jason's logic, 2020 Jokic & JM were not the same players. It is a dump argument. You beat who is in front of you. You don't have to underrate Steph to big up LeBron.
The Mavs are starting 3 poor defenders now. Klay is terrible defensively now. The Warriors are elite defensively since he left and the Mavs are below .500 and have been horribly defensively adding Klay and losing Derrick Jones Jr.
Curry carried team USA….steph plays with more pace. Slow to fast and does what’s needed to get a bucket. Hes a better two way player now. Steph in my opinion is a better overall player than his younger self. He led in steals ya but his on ball defense was booty. He’s actually a better on ball defender cuz he’s stronger and overall just more sturdy even on offense. Steph just beat Luka and their big 3 with him dray and role players. He’s winning with less super stars talent. How is he not better than who you named?
bro Vegas betting odds had Warriors favored to beat Celtics. Most analyst also voted Warriors. So you're saying despite the majority of people choosing Warriors to win, they considered Celtics to be one of the best teams of all time?
@@gringoboy701 you are actually basing off the 2022 Celtic's greatness on vegas betting odds LMAO. That team had two allNba in the Jays. Had the DPOY in Smart. Had the best defensive rating which is one the best in this decade.
Steph has at least 4-10 free throws stolen from him by bad whistles every single game. He just doesn’t complain and force refs hands every game like the Lebrons, Lukas, Shais, Hardens of the league.
If anything the nuggets playing an 8th seed Miami heat in last years finals was a gap year. He give jokic all this credit but he wants to diminish Steph and the warriors.
Saying the 2022 Celtics weren’t that good, in hindsight, is absolute BS. They were great and the warriors were the underdogs. Revisionist history at its best! Luca is amazing but he was great last season and couldn’t get past the Celtic with Kyrie. Last season Steph had to carry the whole team just to get to the play ins.
Yeah he was shilling boston in 22 as well. And everyone was saying boston was the better team than everyone and even in the finals when they were 2-1 up.
If the 22 Celtics weren't "the real Celtics we think of", I imagine what he has to say about the 2020 Lakers ring, because by that logic neither the Denver nor the Heat were their real versions we think of, right? Or for LeBron the logic is different? Terrible take
I think Andrew Wiggins should be talked about as one of the top wing defenders in the league. Paul George anoints himself as the best wing defender in the NBA. At this point in his career is he better than Wiggins?
I mean, Wiggins is probably a slightly better man defender at the point of attack, especially against bigger wings, but PG is still probably more switchable and plays much better help defense, which is huge.
Way to undervalue that 2022 Warriors title run. To say that there wasn’t a top tier team in the west is crazy. Curry just stood in the way of Jokic. Without the warriors, Denver would’ve beaten Memphis and took Luka 6 games
haha this guy just looks at size and he's done..Curry proved him wrong in 2022 and yet he refused to give him the best player.This season, this guy said GSW is not a playoff team,Curry will not be good enough.But guess what, Curry has dispatched the so called best teams i.e Boston,OKC and Dallas.Curry outplayed Tatum,Luka,Kyrie,SGA.Ye he still continues to get disrespected.What has Luka done this season to be ranked higher than Curry?Even Gianni's who is failing to win a match in the weak Eastern Conference is being ranked high..The level of disrespect is just laughable at this point
He really trying to poo poo the 2022 championship? He really needs some soul searching. What is homie on? Go look at who they faced and how they played in those games. Nobody picked the warriors to even make it to conference finals. Now he saying the path was easy calling it a “gap year” wow just stop it.
Everyone is better than Curry till it’s time to be better than Curry. The only man that has bested Curry in one v one matchups has been Lebron James and he’s 1/2 best player ever.
Curry has beaten LeBron 3 times. Lmao. LeBron has beaten Steph twice (I'll count the Lakers one despite the fact that Steph was playing with literal G leaguers, and LeBron wasn't even the best player on his team).
@ listen I’m a Steph fan first and foremost, however the point still stands Lebron has been the only player one v one to beat Steph… that’s it. Nobody else if he wins a 5th ring he’s top 3
I almost agree. I wouldn't put anyone right now who hasn't won anything over Curry. Definitely Jokic for sure, Giannis and AD barely, with maybe KD. SGA, Ant, Luka, will likely end up with better seasonal stats, but let's see them win something 1st. And I know Tatum won a ring and he's playing well right now, Curry seems to outplay him almost everytime they meet.
Sorry, aint no way I'm taking any of those players over Steph in the postseason. Whats luka done? Giannis had one good postseason run and Jokic has been to the wcf only once in 10 years. And how can you insult th 22 year, when jokic faced a lakers team that was gifted to the wcf and the 8th seeded miami heat in 23? The disrespsct is crazy.
er, jokic has been to the WCF twice, like he won that other time. XD i agree about the others, but jokic doesn't have any weaknesses like luka/giannis, he doesn't even really have problems defending, and he doesn't fall off in the post-season.
@@lepidoptery uhm, yes he has a weakness, dray and steph exposed him on switches on defense, and on offense dray stripped him on multiple clutch time possessions. Dray literally won game 1 on 1v1 defense on joker.
@@thepb295 jokic literally still averaged 31.0-13.2-5.8 that series on 57.5-27.8-84.8 shooting that series. not so great from deep, but dude is a center, threes are more like a bonus. the weakness was his bum squad that year (as it seems to be this year).
This is revisionist history at its finest, he’s saying 22 teams around the league weren’t good…no one believed in the warriors that year and look what happened..
Celtics were supposed to be historically good and stomped everyone. Until they had to face Steph, Celtics up 2-1, Steph decided to take over and told them they wouldn’t win another game. And they didn’t. Next year Celtics finally won but they didn’t have to face Steph because dray and Klay and wigs disappeared last year. Klay went 0-11 so Steph couldn’t even make the playoffs.
Steph’s impact on the offense and adjustments teams make around him is a big difference maker even today. I’d take Steph over everyone but Jokic if the playoffs started today
Jokic is the only one I’m taking. Giannis even falters in the clutch bc he doesn’t have a reliable jump shot. I’m taking KD over these younger guys too.
I had to get out of this .. and stop listening.. u picking Gianni’s over Steph ? U picking Jovich over Steph? U might as well pick Austin rivers Steph too… u talking rubbish
Couple things I disagree with 1. Luka is a walking traffic cone on defense and Steph is miles ahead of Luka 2. Steph is the better off ball player than luka 3. The steph pick and role is arguably the hardest play to guard in the game… if you play drop coverage he will light you up from 3, if you play high it’s a 4 on 3 for whoever is rolling to the basket. 4. Steph creates so many open shots, and is a very good playoff performer Overall, I don’t understand how Luka or Shia is better than Steph
Don't let the stats fool you, steph is still very close to Shai and Luka this year he just has less minutes. Luka and Shai have better numbers yes but per 36 its much closer. Per 36 sga averages 30, 6 and 7. Luka averages 27, 7 and 7. Curry averages 30, 6 and 8 per 36. He just doesn't have the same minutes because his team is so deep. Curry is averaging less than 30 minutes a game and still playing at a star level.
Your takes on Steph seems to always be off. How many years does he have to prove you wrong. This has to be because you are a fan of LBJ and the Lakers cause I don't understand...
Facts because that bubble ring was weak af lebron had ad jimmy had rookies curry had no top 75 player goin against Boston and gentleman sweep they ass but you talkin like bro curry made gsw a dynasty stop questioning proven winners and given so much praise to guys who ain’t even have a mvp smh
People are always so critical of Steph due to his size but yet he has 4 rings, while being the best player for 2 of the 4 (yes Iggy won the FMVP cuz of his defense on LBJ which changed the series even though Steph averaged 26, 5 and 6, shooting 44% from the field, 38% from 3 and 86% from the ft line) and is the only unanimous league MVP ever.
Once again I didn’t even start the video and I knew Jason was going to say some wild things about Stephen Curry. At this point Jason you’re just hating, 99% of the comments section all agreeing that you’re just hating 🤦🏾♂️
I don’t understand the shai thing. How is shai in the same tier of giannis, jokic, doncic, like what! Shai is good, but he’s not all that imo. I don’t remember a time were a player had 1 good/great season and all of a sudden he’s in the elite top tier players, is weird to me. Is like everybody is forcing that notion, I really can’t grasp that.
The only player on this list that I would take over steph is Joker, and I'm shaky on that....steph has never relied on athleticism whiling playing his gm. So that excuse is bonk...
Why does no one talk about the Lakers 2020 weak run, plenty of injuries and advantages for them. The Heat missing their 2 best players for games and Jimmy Butler still took LeBron and AD to 6 but LeBron claims it’s one of the hardest chips ever smh.
You are somehow spiraling even more in absurdity with every new take on the Warriors. This time you even went as far as downplaying 2022. Btw YOU picked Boston to win back then. The warriors were given less than 10% chance. What's more, you are a Lakers fan who believes the 2020 championship ia legit. Delusional and hypocritical.
2022 gap year? He’s low key discrediting the Warriors’s championship from that year. So is he ready to say LeFlop’s 2020 Bubble chip with the Lakers doesn’t count? I’ll wait.
Mailbag: What would you think about the Warriors trading for Bam. The Heat are off to a slow start, and there has been a lot of chatter about moving off Jimmy. What if they moved off Bam too? He'd be a seamless fit with the warriors as an athletic big who can make decisions in the 4 on 3 as well as space the floor a little. Defensively, him and Draymond would be a juggernaut with switchability and rim protection. Do you think there's a world where this trade occurs in February, and how do you think the fit would be?
I like who we have on the Warriors, i would only trade Podz but Bam for Podz doesn’t make sense 😂 but Bam on the warriors would be automatic championship number 5 and 6
Yeah I'm pretty sure I don't.. Ingram doesn't fit their offense and Wiggs when he's locked in is one of the most valuable defensive players *in the league* , not just on the Warriors. Not many guys that can bother the likes of Luka and Tatum along with smaller guards..
He's great at breaking down the X&O aspect of the game. Prediction wise, he doesn't ever do too well. I prefer when he just leans into nerding out over what has already happened as opposed to trying to predict what is going to happen.
you are a smart guy who just feels the need to say something like taking Luka over Steph because it gets people to engage in the comments for the algo...... but hey get that bread Jason
@@danii-fresh1814 I wouldn’t say overrated but yea he’s not as aggressive defensively as he used to be. Draymond is the best defender in the league followed by AD in my opinion.
Any chance you can add the date of the original episode somewhere in the title or thumbnail? When you drop multiple videos close together it’s hard to tell if it’s what a clip of what I’ve already watched or a new episode
I do not see the athletic drop off from the 2021-2022 season for Stephen Curry. For me, I even wonder how you’d quantify that, considering that Steph’s play is predicated on elite stamina and conditioning, and his underrated strength.
That's just like discounting the Celtics pistons Lakers because Jordan's Bulls had not grown up yet in 2022 the Warriors beat all the NBA players that stood in their way at the end of the day baby professional basketball players it wasn't in the bubble in most cases all the teams they beat we're healthy
I agree with you, Jason, but i believe that the Warriors have better defenders to guard Luka and Kyrie with Wiggins and Melton and Gp2. Dallas has no answer for Curry
"Ill take Jokic, Luka, SGA, and Giannis over curry" bro apart from Jokic, YOUR BUGGING. A man has 4 rings compared to 2 those 4 players have combined, my only conclusion Jason is that you are not convinced by any of Currys championships or MVPS (1 unanimous). Those 4 guys are all future hall of famers for sure, but im picking the man thats done it 4 times out of 6.
Downplaying the 2022 ship when warrior's weren't even supposed to be there is absolutely crazy. This guy has always hated Steph and downplayed his accomplishments, but that take is a crazy amount of hate because no one expected him to win another ship after Durant left.
People don’t see the nuances that have made Curry a four time champion. I agree with Jason though that the Warriors probably need another piece to support Curry.
It’s insane how the Warriors are 8-2 and people are like “ehhhhhh, yeah, they could be a dark horse.” However, the 6-4 Lakers? “Oh yeah! Great start! Little lower on them now though.” 😂😂😂
The level of disrespect people have for Curry is absolutely disgusting. The man dominated Luka, Irving, Shae, Tatum, Lebron, Durant etc
How many times does Steph Curry have to prove people like you wrong? Steph’s dominance is NOT about athleticism. It’s leadership, skill, and gravity.
It’s crazy that everyone else can win a title but when Steph does, it’s a gap year Hahahha. But Denver beat Miami it’s not a gap year hahaha dude is wild
It's ridiculous bro, all they look at is numbers not realizing teams gameplan completely different for him then they do any other player in the league.
@@ll_kb2484Denver didn't even beat 50 win team if that's not a gap year i don't what is.
Steph has never NOT been doubted. Par for the course. Will only truly get his flowers after retirement if the Klutch media machine allows it.
The disrespect on Steph is crazy.
He actually did Steph a favor with that hypothetical ranking if the playoffs started today… I would argue Steph is closer to 10 than 1 in that ranking
Jokic Luka Giannis Ant-Man AD LeBron KD maybe SGA
"steph is not athletic....????!!! open your eyes, dude!
@@TheRealPaulyDant over Steph??? No brother
It's been like this his whole carrer. It's cowardice. They stole from him a Finals MVP, an Olympic Games MVP and they refuse to give him another season MVP. Btw, Jokic has THREE co-stars to help him. THREE! But Curry can't win, all because Steph is "small" or idk what bizarre excuse. When it comes to Steph they always move the goal post for MVP, even though Steph is the clutchiest player or among the clutchiest for years! 12 points flurry in clutch time, without a miss, in only 3 minutes, two threes, two infiltrations, the dagger ball... What more does Wardell have to do??? 🤦♂️
This is a wild take. Steph is proven until proven wrong. He just lit up the olympics.
Taking Luka over Steph is pretty wild.
If playoffs started today, taking Luka over Steph is a wild take. LOL.
How has he got a channel with this kinda takes…….
One has 4 fucking rings
I don’t take Luka over Curry NEVER not even now
After he said that I unsubscribed lol
@@hiddenleaf6074noooo 😆🤦
I love Steph but cmon Luka is a pretty damn good and only slightly better than curry right now.
You lost me 50 seconds into the video when ask if playoff started today u pick luka over Steph is crazy..dat dude plays zero defense that’s y he’ looks so good on offense smfh
Also Giannis in the playoffs yea I’m taking Steph at the end of games Gianni’s is unplayable
downplayin the 2022 championship is hilarious when you support the 2020 championship lmao
Exactly. This dude has one of the biggest lakers biases and still parades as if he’s objective
@@earlsavvy9766he also says that Lakers free throw disparity to every team is normal what a joke 😂😂😂
His bias and these takes get worse everyday
You are 1000% correct
Typical Lakers fan having hard on Disney championship 😂
Chef Curry cooked KLAY, Kyrie AND Luka all on his own! 👍👏
He is the GOAT. 🎉❤💯💯
The hate on on Steph is crazzy … yes, the Boston Celtics were the Boston Celtics in 2022 … they were ready and in fact blew out the Warriors in Game 1 of that series … and still lost the series … Curry’s greatness and game has never been predicated on crazy athleticism … anyone that knows hoops knew the that Curry’s game would age well, and it has… his cardio is second to none. Luka, great game and skill set , but he’s chubby. That’s a no no when you’re being talked about as being MVP of the league and you’re the best player on your team. Giannis? You just mentioned he is entering a weak part of the schedule so that should help him get to 500. Not very impressive if you ask me, why can’t he beat the above 500 teams? The only player that is above Steph right now is is the Joker. That’s it
No don’t flip it now. Don’t say that 2022 was a gap year. The celtics were still the heavy favorites that year and don’t forget the suns were heavily favored in the west too. If the celtics faced another team that year, they’d be champs for sure
This year will be even more of a gap year then. It's only 2 TEAMS OVER .500 IN THE EAST. That's fucking crazy.
If only I had a $1,000 for every time a talking head said Team X is so much better than the 2022 Warriors because of "this" and "that"...
Celtics weren't favored in EC. Nets were HEAVY favorites to win title that season
Steph has never been crazy athletic though. His cardio is 2nd to none... And it still is 🤷🏼♂️
You forgot about his strength he’s sneaky strong
@@jefferyrosario2144 sure, for a 6'2" guy, not for 6'5"+ guys.
His defense has also improved tremendously.
He went from a liability to a + defender.
@@AbcDino843dude out squats all the dudes at that height he’s played with. Check the interviews. He learned after 2016.
It’s hilarious that this guy talks as if we’ve seen a marked decline in Steph’s athleticism. Where!? Give a single example. He’s just learned to play smarter.
Steph is playing the best ball right now. He looks stronger and is a sturdy defender. Steph all day.
Its the closest he's looked to 2016.
Steph not only out scored but also out played Shai and Luka but can’t give him the nod over them 🤦🏽♂️
Did you actually look at the stats for this season? Both SGA and Luka are doing much better than Steph, even Kyrie is. And that's taking into consideration that Luka is playing his worst in a while and Steph is HOT right now. The guy is a legend, but he's objectively not better than these guys.
@ are you serious? You must not watch the games, just box scores huh. STATS DONT WIN YOU GAMES, CLOSERS DO. In your estimation wilt has to be the best play to ever grace the planet (tell that to his finals record). Steph has been injured for games ofc his stats aren’t gonna be the best. BUT he has over 70 points in the last 2 games and crazy assist numbers to go with it, while close to 2 steals a game. He’s beat the guys you said he’s better than with no all star help just great play. Who highlighted this guys comment??? Goofy. I also don’t care that Chet got hurt, gsw has been cycling through injuries too.
@@AbcDino843Steph’s scoring is down because his minutes are down. Why? Warriors have been humbling the opps
@@AbcDino843 They are not MUCH better they are slightly better, and they play way more minutes than him. Per 36 sga averages 30, 6 and 7. Luka averages 27, 7 and 7. Curry averages 30, 6 and 8 per 36. He just doesn't have the minutes
2022 Celtics were the number 2 seed in the east, they were #1 in net rating, they were the #1 defense, and they had that year's DPOY......absolute disrespect towards what the Warriors accomplished that year. Your biggest criticism of the Warriors last year was that they couldn't beat teams over .500, despite the fact that they were missing Draymond for a large chunk of the season, yet you are giving a pass for the Celtics for the same? What gives?
True and hes been saying that the teams that warriors beat werent any better than Denver
*Taking Luka over Steph? Really? Unsubscribed.*
I used to love Jason's channel, but his straight up disrespect of Curry is really starting to get to me.
True he lost a huge amoint of credebility when he said the lakers freethrow disparity to other teams is normal when other channels have been saying like that theyre FTs is like a thousand more next to the closest one
Had to unsubscribe, I hate bias commentary it’s frustrating.
In Jason's logic, 2020 Jokic & JM were not the same players. It is a dump argument. You beat who is in front of you. You don't have to underrate Steph to big up LeBron.
the disrespect he shows to Steph makes this unlistenable
i used to love the show dawg. damn, anything not to eclipse bron i guess 😂
Luka is a major negative on defense. Not that Steph is a world beater, but he way ahead of Luka.
The Mavs are starting 3 poor defenders now. Klay is terrible defensively now. The Warriors are elite defensively since he left and the Mavs are below .500 and have been horribly defensively adding Klay and losing Derrick Jones Jr.
Curry carried team USA….steph plays with more pace. Slow to fast and does what’s needed to get a bucket. Hes a better two way player now. Steph in my opinion is a better overall player than his younger self. He led in steals ya but his on ball defense was booty. He’s actually a better on ball defender cuz he’s stronger and overall just more sturdy even on offense. Steph just beat Luka and their big 3 with him dray and role players. He’s winning with less super stars talent. How is he not better than who you named?
Jason also predicted the Mavs to win against the Warriors 4-1 in 2022 lol where did that prediction take you?
SGA over Steph is nasty work especially when the playoff whistle takes hold…..SGA starts looking different without 17FTs in a game
People were crowning the 2022 celtics as one of the best teams of all times. Essentially calling them a work in progress is absolutely insane.
this guy always has an excuse to downplay steph and the warriors. the guy is a lebron fan so thats why.
@@pstriple16 absolutely nobody was saying this. The 2024 Celtics will go down as the most overrated championship team in the nba history
Yeah, who was crowing 2022 Celtics as one of the best teams ever?
bro Vegas betting odds had Warriors favored to beat Celtics. Most analyst also voted Warriors. So you're saying despite the majority of people choosing Warriors to win, they considered Celtics to be one of the best teams of all time?
@@gringoboy701 you are actually basing off the 2022 Celtic's greatness on vegas betting odds LMAO. That team had two allNba in the Jays. Had the DPOY in Smart. Had the best defensive rating which is one the best in this decade.
Taking free throw merchants Luka and SGA over Steph is objectively hilarious. That has to be bait for engagement.
There's sound logic behind it.
None of those guys have proven they can put a team on their back to win a chip.
Steph has. Multiple times.
Steph has at least 4-10 free throws stolen from him by bad whistles every single game. He just doesn’t complain and force refs hands every game like the Lebrons, Lukas, Shais, Hardens of the league.
2022 was a gap year in NBA 😁😁
Wild take..
If anything the nuggets playing an 8th seed Miami heat in last years finals was a gap year. He give jokic all this credit but he wants to diminish Steph and the warriors.
Saying the 2022 Celtics weren’t that good, in hindsight, is absolute BS. They were great and the warriors were the underdogs. Revisionist history at its best! Luca is amazing but he was great last season and couldn’t get past the Celtic with Kyrie. Last season Steph had to carry the whole team just to get to the play ins.
Yeah he was shilling boston in 22 as well. And everyone was saying boston was the better team than everyone and even in the finals when they were 2-1 up.
If the 22 Celtics weren't "the real Celtics we think of", I imagine what he has to say about the 2020 Lakers ring, because by that logic neither the Denver nor the Heat were their real versions we think of, right? Or for LeBron the logic is different? Terrible take
2022 was a gap year but, we don't hear anything about lakers bubble year. Steph Curry hate it's real!
most still can't believe a 6'2 guy can carry a team lol
This man has been hating on curry for years now, pretty sad and shameful. Who the helm takes big Luka over the chef 🤷🏾♂️
Love seeing the expectations for the warriors go higher and higher every week 😂😂
I think Andrew Wiggins should be talked about as one of the top wing defenders in the league. Paul George anoints himself as the best wing defender in the NBA. At this point in his career is he better than Wiggins?
Neither of them are but Wiggins is better than PG and probably like Top 3-5
I mean, Wiggins is probably a slightly better man defender at the point of attack, especially against bigger wings, but PG is still probably more switchable and plays much better help defense, which is huge.
Way to undervalue that 2022 Warriors title run. To say that there wasn’t a top tier team in the west is crazy. Curry just stood in the way of Jokic. Without the warriors, Denver would’ve beaten Memphis and took Luka 6 games
haha this guy just looks at size and he's done..Curry proved him wrong in 2022 and yet he refused to give him the best player.This season, this guy said GSW is not a playoff team,Curry will not be good enough.But guess what, Curry has dispatched the so called best teams i.e Boston,OKC and Dallas.Curry outplayed Tatum,Luka,Kyrie,SGA.Ye he still continues to get disrespected.What has Luka done this season to be ranked higher than Curry?Even Gianni's who is failing to win a match in the weak Eastern Conference is being ranked high..The level of disrespect is just laughable at this point
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Well has curry made the WCF twice?! Obviously that’s better than 4 chips, 1 finals MVP, and 2 league MVPs.
He really trying to poo poo the 2022 championship? He really needs some soul searching. What is homie on? Go look at who they faced and how they played in those games. Nobody picked the warriors to even make it to conference finals. Now he saying the path was easy calling it a “gap year” wow just stop it.
What’s hilarious is HE PICKED BOSTON TO WIN 👀
L takes from Timphs all around 🙉🙈🙊
Jason is embarrassing himself at this point
Everyone is better than Curry till it’s time to be better than Curry. The only man that has bested Curry in one v one matchups has been Lebron James and he’s 1/2 best player ever.
Curry has beaten LeBron 3 times. Lmao. LeBron has beaten Steph twice (I'll count the Lakers one despite the fact that Steph was playing with literal G leaguers, and LeBron wasn't even the best player on his team).
@ listen I’m a Steph fan first and foremost, however the point still stands Lebron has been the only player one v one to beat Steph… that’s it. Nobody else if he wins a 5th ring he’s top 3
This^
I almost agree. I wouldn't put anyone right now who hasn't won anything over Curry. Definitely Jokic for sure, Giannis and AD barely, with maybe KD. SGA, Ant, Luka, will likely end up with better seasonal stats, but let's see them win something 1st. And I know Tatum won a ring and he's playing well right now, Curry seems to outplay him almost everytime they meet.
@@allanjbucknol4414 But again... Steph has beaten LeBron more. Sooo...
Sorry, aint no way I'm taking any of those players over Steph in the postseason. Whats luka done? Giannis had one good postseason run and Jokic has been to the wcf only once in 10 years. And how can you insult th 22 year, when jokic faced a lakers team that was gifted to the wcf and the 8th seeded miami heat in 23? The disrespsct is crazy.
er, jokic has been to the WCF twice, like he won that other time. XD
i agree about the others, but jokic doesn't have any weaknesses like luka/giannis, he doesn't even really have problems defending, and he doesn't fall off in the post-season.
@@lepidoptery what has Luka done? Please do your research on his numbers. I'm a dubs fan but put respect on his name lol
@@HellaSmuuvCome talk me when he wins a Chip…..or four 🏆🏆🏆🏆
@@lepidoptery uhm, yes he has a weakness, dray and steph exposed him on switches on defense, and on offense dray stripped him on multiple clutch time possessions. Dray literally won game 1 on 1v1 defense on joker.
@@thepb295 jokic literally still averaged 31.0-13.2-5.8 that series on 57.5-27.8-84.8 shooting that series. not so great from deep, but dude is a center, threes are more like a bonus. the weakness was his bum squad that year (as it seems to be this year).
This is revisionist history at its finest, he’s saying 22 teams around the league weren’t good…no one believed in the warriors that year and look what happened..
He picked Boston to win. I just don't get these guys
@@caladanrude6395Yup. I was here and remember that L take.
Now all of a sudden Boston was no comp???
Ridiculous.
Celtics were supposed to be historically good and stomped everyone. Until they had to face Steph, Celtics up 2-1, Steph decided to take over and told them they wouldn’t win another game. And they didn’t. Next year Celtics finally won but they didn’t have to face Steph because dray and Klay and wigs disappeared last year. Klay went 0-11 so Steph couldn’t even make the playoffs.
Steph’s impact on the offense and adjustments teams make around him is a big difference maker even today. I’d take Steph over everyone but Jokic if the playoffs started today
Jokic is the only one I’m taking. Giannis even falters in the clutch bc he doesn’t have a reliable jump shot. I’m taking KD over these younger guys too.
I had to get out of this .. and stop listening.. u picking Gianni’s over Steph ? U picking Jovich over Steph? U might as well pick Austin rivers Steph too… u talking rubbish
Couple things I disagree with
1. Luka is a walking traffic cone on defense and Steph is miles ahead of Luka
2. Steph is the better off ball player than luka
3. The steph pick and role is arguably the hardest play to guard in the game… if you play drop coverage he will light you up from 3, if you play high it’s a 4 on 3 for whoever is rolling to the basket.
4. Steph creates so many open shots, and is a very good playoff performer
Overall, I don’t understand how Luka or Shia is better than Steph
Chef Curry All Day... Proven 🎉
This dude's take has been wrong since 2022 Warriors championship.
Don't let the stats fool you, steph is still very close to Shai and Luka this year he just has less minutes. Luka and Shai have better numbers yes but per 36 its much closer. Per 36 sga averages 30, 6 and 7. Luka averages 27, 7 and 7. Curry averages 30, 6 and 8 per 36. He just doesn't have the same minutes because his team is so deep. Curry is averaging less than 30 minutes a game and still playing at a star level.
Curry got that Olympic gold and decided he wants to conquer the world.
He actually decided that in 2015-16. And he’s been doing it ever since.
The only person over Steph is Jokic.
Your takes on Steph seems to always be off. How many years does he have to prove you wrong. This has to be because you are a fan of LBJ and the Lakers cause I don't understand...
Facts because that bubble ring was weak af lebron had ad jimmy had rookies curry had no top 75 player goin against Boston and gentleman sweep they ass but you talkin like bro curry made gsw a dynasty stop questioning proven winners and given so much praise to guys who ain’t even have a mvp smh
People are always so critical of Steph due to his size but yet he has 4 rings, while being the best player for 2 of the 4 (yes Iggy won the FMVP cuz of his defense on LBJ which changed the series even though Steph averaged 26, 5 and 6, shooting 44% from the field, 38% from 3 and 86% from the ft line) and is the only unanimous league MVP ever.
He was the most valuable player all 4. There is a reason KD hasn't won shit without him.
Strength in Numbers Warriors are TRULY back and look LOCKED IN!! 👍👏🔥🔥♥️♥️
Once again I didn’t even start the video and I knew Jason was going to say some wild things about Stephen Curry. At this point Jason you’re just hating, 99% of the comments section all agreeing that you’re just hating 🤦🏾♂️
Luka Over Steph???🤦🏿
He doesn’t like steph!!! Steph is the only player who can breakdown any defense!!! He makes everyone look like an all star. His gravity is enough!
I don’t understand the shai thing. How is shai in the same tier of giannis, jokic, doncic, like what! Shai is good, but he’s not all that imo. I don’t remember a time were a player had 1 good/great season and all of a sudden he’s in the elite top tier players, is weird to me. Is like everybody is forcing that notion, I really can’t grasp that.
uhmm, because if you touch his hair, automatic foul :D
Got to get on lebron good side. 😂
This guy is a joke curry been carrying the gsw for years this man don’t give props to curry bcuz we all know curry having a better career than lequeen
If the playoffs started today the mavs and bucks are in the lottery so that wouldn’t make sense
The only player on this list that I would take over steph is Joker, and I'm shaky on that....steph has never relied on athleticism whiling playing his gm. So that excuse is bonk...
Why does no one talk about the Lakers 2020 weak run, plenty of injuries and advantages for them. The Heat missing their 2 best players for games and Jimmy Butler still took LeBron and AD to 6 but LeBron claims it’s one of the hardest chips ever smh.
Facts
yeah it's hardest chip for him because he didn't have 2 other all NBA or All stars, just AD and refs lol
Jason covers the Warriors religiously yet continues the trend of disrespect on Steph's name.. Shame
Btw, Kuminga had 3 rough games to start, and has been good to great in every game since then. So I guess I don't know what inconsistent means
You are somehow spiraling even more in absurdity with every new take on the Warriors. This time you even went as far as downplaying 2022. Btw YOU picked Boston to win back then. The warriors were given less than 10% chance. What's more, you are a Lakers fan who believes the 2020 championship ia legit. Delusional and hypocritical.
These Steph takes are wild bro ngl
2022 gap year? He’s low key discrediting the Warriors’s championship from that year. So is he ready to say LeFlop’s 2020 Bubble chip with the Lakers doesn’t count? I’ll wait.
Typical Lebron fan to disrespect Steph and mask it in fake praise
His movie is called underrated for a reason…keep disrespecting him lmao
Mailbag: What would you think about the Warriors trading for Bam. The Heat are off to a slow start, and there has been a lot of chatter about moving off Jimmy. What if they moved off Bam too? He'd be a seamless fit with the warriors as an athletic big who can make decisions in the 4 on 3 as well as space the floor a little. Defensively, him and Draymond would be a juggernaut with switchability and rim protection. Do you think there's a world where this trade occurs in February, and how do you think the fit would be?
I don't even want to know what they'd need to give up to make that happen..
I like who we have on the Warriors, i would only trade Podz but Bam for Podz doesn’t make sense 😂 but Bam on the warriors would be automatic championship number 5 and 6
Steph 4 chips
Luka 0-0
Proven versus aspirations
I’m not sure I prefer Brandon Ingram over Wiggins straight up. He looks like 2022 Wiggins
Yeah I'm pretty sure I don't.. Ingram doesn't fit their offense and Wiggs when he's locked in is one of the most valuable defensive players *in the league* , not just on the Warriors. Not many guys that can bother the likes of Luka and Tatum along with smaller guards..
Dont panic guys, Jason had to eat his words in 2022 as well.
More proof Lebron fans doing their best to discredit and undervalue Steph and his greatness.
Facts they Beene doing that and then fake smile to curry face
Steph is in better physical shape and health than most in the league!
Warriors and Cavs at the top of the league again.. who woulda thunk it
But I think they can defend as well as anyone. Melton is a massive upgrade
Did bruh just put an asterisk on the dubs chip . Smh
Considering he's a Lakers fan , that’s kinda hilarious 😂
The hate he has for the Warriors is building up crazy 😂
This is why i dont watch his videos any more he literally says anything now
Anything to hate on Steph and the Warriors
Don’t worry
Wigs and kuminga and buddy will average more then 12
Dayday gunning for that DPOY!! 🤩🤩💪💪
Jason is always trying to downplay Steph & hate'n on the guy.. he's just like Skip Bayless
He might as well be Skip Bayless replacement the way he hating on Steph Curry 😂
11:45 this perfectly describes Jason’s show. Bro doesn’t know, pontificates, & speaks out of his rear end
Why are you here then? Dont like it, dont listen.
@ I just enjoy seeing how wrong he is all the time
He's great at breaking down the X&O aspect of the game. Prediction wise, he doesn't ever do too well. I prefer when he just leans into nerding out over what has already happened as opposed to trying to predict what is going to happen.
@ EXACTLY!!! That’s what being an analyst entails… this dude is just a lakers fan masquerading as an nba analyst.
@@taggangmemberno he is not he is bias
i see no world where the bucks would trade giannis when they can trade the problem: dame.
they need to take the L on dame and move him quickly
luka is just 2020's version of 2010s james harden... except harden went up against the warriors dynasty
you are a smart guy who just feels the need to say something like taking Luka over Steph because it gets people to engage in the comments for the algo...... but hey get that bread Jason
I think current Steph is comparable to 2018 LeBron. Bro is at the peak of his powers despite his age.
Yet he’s on top of the west and has a deep team with top 5 defense
lost me in the first 2 min
Steph in the playoffs. Only jokic over him I would want no one else
Why are people so high on Giannis 🤦🏾♂️ a guy that’s only dangerous in transition. You can’t give him the ball in the clutch
Nope! I saw it against the Celtics and Cavs. Giannis doesn’t have a reliable jump shot and can’t make free throws consistently.
And he’s also an overrated defender🤦🏾♂️ people need stop giving him so much praise
@@danii-fresh1814 I wouldn’t say overrated but yea he’s not as aggressive defensively as he used to be. Draymond is the best defender in the league followed by AD in my opinion.
Any chance you can add the date of the original episode somewhere in the title or thumbnail? When you drop multiple videos close together it’s hard to tell if it’s what a clip of what I’ve already watched or a new episode
Usually can tell by the length, but rarely there are some short episodes you might miss that way
I do not see the athletic drop off from the 2021-2022 season for Stephen Curry. For me, I even wonder how you’d quantify that, considering that Steph’s play is predicated on elite stamina and conditioning, and his underrated strength.
dude compared luka v curry to a knife to a gun fight after curry just cooked him and kyrie both the disrespect is insane.
That's just like discounting the Celtics pistons Lakers because Jordan's Bulls had not grown up yet in 2022 the Warriors beat all the NBA players that stood in their way at the end of the day baby professional basketball players it wasn't in the bubble in most cases all the teams they beat we're healthy
I agree with you, Jason, but i believe that the Warriors have better defenders to guard Luka and Kyrie with Wiggins and Melton and Gp2. Dallas has no answer for Curry
If playoff start today, I’d take Steph. He just beat Luka-Dallas, OKC, BOS last few days.
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No one is taking Luka over Steph..
"Ill take Jokic, Luka, SGA, and Giannis over curry" bro apart from Jokic, YOUR BUGGING. A man has 4 rings compared to 2 those 4 players have combined, my only conclusion Jason is that you are not convinced by any of Currys championships or MVPS (1 unanimous). Those 4 guys are all future hall of famers for sure, but im picking the man thats done it 4 times out of 6.
Jason talking the Warriors is always... interesting. Like Terrence Howard discovering new number interesting😂😂
Downplaying the 2022 ship when warrior's weren't even supposed to be there is absolutely crazy. This guy has always hated Steph and downplayed his accomplishments, but that take is a crazy amount of hate because no one expected him to win another ship after Durant left.
People don’t see the nuances that have made Curry a four time champion.
I agree with Jason though that the Warriors probably need another piece to support Curry.
Curry over Luka all day. Curry actually carried his team to a championship and won, AGAINST BOSTON, which Luka and the Mavs lost too.
I normally don’t comment but the disrespect to curry’s greatest is getting outa hand
It’s insane how the Warriors are 8-2 and people are like “ehhhhhh, yeah, they could be a dark horse.” However, the 6-4 Lakers? “Oh yeah! Great start! Little lower on them now though.” 😂😂😂
Luka over Steph is literally clinical insanity