This ownership is a part of the puzzle to me of how emotions can be weaponized via shame via social media to gain control - or ownership of the narrative itself. Scary.
Good call. Yeah, the media or political narrative and the depth of the game itself which may be allowing a negative narrative to flourish so that polarization and divisiveness works towards their end goals. Like how talking trash and 'getting under the opponents skin' works the long game counting on penalties or getting the player to lose focus.
@@JH-ji6cj Well, if history shows anything its that such things only work short term - love , logic, reason, those things work long term. Of course - we must all use them, so that means learning how to do that... I've been doing my little tiny part for logic, reaching a few.
@@DeconvertedMan well, keep doing what you're doing. I for sure hope that more people getting voices of reason out into the conversations will help cause a middle ground to flourish in the culture.
How does one own dirt anyway? :D if I buy the "land" below me, and then move it somewhere else - do I own that spot, or the spot I bought that now has a giant hole - do I own the hole?
@@DeconvertedMan I say you just made the land MORE valuable by moving the dirt. Advertising and Marketing my guy, you're now living on the Holey Land, lol
I will definitely read it! A suggestion for a second edition. Because this wasn't discussed here, I am assuming this isn't in your book. Include some discussion about monoculture, game theory, adaptive strategies for individuals, groups and societies.
That explanation for that infamous anecdote about students being willing to buy a mug for half what they're willing to sell it for, if you look into it, is bunk. They were students at a business school and know the value of buying low and selling high. Anyone there willing to buy for the same price they'd sell at would be a failure of a business student.
The guest says that former slaves lost their reparations (due in no small part to their own mismanagement, it isn't as though there was no example of the oldest son inherits all). Then Michael says we really should pay reparations. To whom? From whom? Much of the social reform of the 60s and 70s were reparations. Not enough. Do away with anti discrimination laws so that we can discriminate in favour of African Americans. Not enough. When will you pay reparations? If you keep giving, they will keep their hand out, acknowledge nothing & remain dependant on your naive largess while hating you for it. Immigrants from Africa arrive with little, minus the chip on their shoulder and just take advantage of everything that the US has to offer. They do very well.
How do you suppose reparations was lost to mismanagement? Firstly, formal reparations has never been paid, at least not to slaves or their descendants, even though the fight is as old a Callie House and newly liberated freedmen. Secondly, the number of Black immigrants in the US prior to 1965 was marginal at best. The Smithsonian even goes as far as reporting it was to the right of the decimal point. Thirdly, the social reforms of the 60s and 70s came with great cost to human life itself, and simply reversed legislation that should have already been deemed unconstitutional. It never payed attention to recompense for the past nor the government cutting out Blacks from economic entitlements given to modern Whites (at least at the time), which are never looked at as handouts interestingly enough. Lastly, due to the way the immigration laws were set up, immigrants who come from Africa are not engaging in "vertical migration", meaning they started off poor in their previous country but somehow move to America and worked their way up. Typically these people are already of a middle/upper class in their home country, they move to America and integrate into a like culture in their new host country, what I call "horizontal migration". Further still, what some don't recognize is some of these African immigrants may actually be the descendants of slave traders themselves. That conversation is a much more interesting one to have, but is dismissed based on skin pigmentation (they're Black like you, so why can they do it and you can't?), because people don't generally think of Africa as having class/caste systems.
@ Apparently, you have a problem with comprehension. Africans, by sheer fact of data, are not coming to America as an underclass society in their home country, just to work their way out of poverty in America. The majority of poor Africans DO NOT come to America. According to the World Bank (or maybe it was the IMF), the average African makes about $5 US. If some of those poorer Africans do find their way into America, it's typically under refugee status or asylum seekers, but the greater portion of Africans who relocate have some kind of secondary education and at least some professional skills. Secondly, reparations, as I mentioned in my previous comment, was never paid. The federal government simply de-legislated draconian laws that should have been seen as unconstitutional IN THE FIRST PLACE. The majority of the laws coming out of the 60s civil rights movement were performative, many of which were laws that were already on the books-- the right to vote (15th amendment for the 1860s and again in the 1960s under the voting rights act). Reparations would be payment for lost wages, lost property from homegrown terrorist campaigns, and the Unites States actively choosing winners and losers in the American economy through government subsidy, favorable legislation, and not protecting its citizens from discriminatory application of laws. Affirmative Action included White women, therefore, it could not be seen as reparations. 256 years of slavery then 100 years of Black codes and Jim Crow did not happen to White women. Lastly, entitlement programs built the American White middle class. The New Deal was nothing more than a massive transfer of wealth through housing, credit, and jobs programs, that Blacks were almost completely locked out of. Whites simply were never forced to the hold the image of victims and welfare recipients, thus they get to lie to themselves about how they made it with the sweat of their own brow.
Jesus should/could come back. Second coming, brought on by copyright issues. But then, of course, the judge would be biased. Either that or the Supreme court..
This ownership is a part of the puzzle to me of how emotions can be weaponized via shame via social media to gain control - or ownership of the narrative itself. Scary.
Good call. Yeah, the media or political narrative and the depth of the game itself which may be allowing a negative narrative to flourish so that polarization and divisiveness works towards their end goals. Like how talking trash and 'getting under the opponents skin' works the long game counting on penalties or getting the player to lose focus.
@@JH-ji6cj Well, if history shows anything its that such things only work short term - love , logic, reason, those things work long term. Of course - we must all use them, so that means learning how to do that... I've been doing my little tiny part for logic, reaching a few.
@@DeconvertedMan well, keep doing what you're doing. I for sure hope that more people getting voices of reason out into the conversations will help cause a middle ground to flourish in the culture.
@@JH-ji6cj One can only hope. Join in the conversation and make some noise if you can :)
That is so simple and yet it never crossed my mind. Every piece of land on Earth can be traced to a historical dispossession .
How does one own dirt anyway? :D if I buy the "land" below me, and then move it somewhere else - do I own that spot, or the spot I bought that now has a giant hole - do I own the hole?
@@DeconvertedMan I say you just made the land MORE valuable by moving the dirt. Advertising and Marketing my guy, you're now living on the Holey Land, lol
@@JH-ji6cj Ooooooooo nice.
The RUclips algorithm sent this to me in Utrecht, Holland. Great content!
Fascinating - I felt like I was back in Property 101 in law school but this stuff/talk was more interesting. Thx D.A., J.D., NYC
Glad you enjoyed it David!
Kudos, Sherm! You have good pulse feel for our collective mood as people. I predict a million subs.before 2022.
Very interesting interview. A bit disappointed blockchain technology and the new possibilities of ownership registration weren't discussed.
I will definitely read it! A suggestion for a second edition. Because this wasn't discussed here, I am assuming this isn't in your book. Include some discussion about monoculture, game theory, adaptive strategies for individuals, groups and societies.
That explanation for that infamous anecdote about students being willing to buy a mug for half what they're willing to sell it for, if you look into it, is bunk. They were students at a business school and know the value of buying low and selling high. Anyone there willing to buy for the same price they'd sell at would be a failure of a business student.
I'd listen to all of this but I must go now to claim my fishing spot along the river.
Fantastic topic to explore in detail! Also aptly timed. Adding to my read list for the year.
Very enlightening.
"Property is theft, therefore theft is property!" -Zaphod Beeblebrox
Fascinating conversation!
One of your best ever. Brilliant.
The guest says that former slaves lost their reparations (due in no small part to their own mismanagement, it isn't as though there was no example of the oldest son inherits all). Then Michael says we really should pay reparations. To whom? From whom? Much of the social reform of the 60s and 70s were reparations. Not enough. Do away with anti discrimination laws so that we can discriminate in favour of African Americans. Not enough. When will you pay reparations? If you keep giving, they will keep their hand out, acknowledge nothing & remain dependant on your naive largess while hating you for it. Immigrants from Africa arrive with little, minus the chip on their shoulder and just take advantage of everything that the US has to offer. They do very well.
How do you suppose reparations was lost to mismanagement? Firstly, formal reparations has never been paid, at least not to slaves or their descendants, even though the fight is as old a Callie House and newly liberated freedmen. Secondly, the number of Black immigrants in the US prior to 1965 was marginal at best. The Smithsonian even goes as far as reporting it was to the right of the decimal point. Thirdly, the social reforms of the 60s and 70s came with great cost to human life itself, and simply reversed legislation that should have already been deemed unconstitutional. It never payed attention to recompense for the past nor the government cutting out Blacks from economic entitlements given to modern Whites (at least at the time), which are never looked at as handouts interestingly enough. Lastly, due to the way the immigration laws were set up, immigrants who come from Africa are not engaging in "vertical migration", meaning they started off poor in their previous country but somehow move to America and worked their way up. Typically these people are already of a middle/upper class in their home country, they move to America and integrate into a like culture in their new host country, what I call "horizontal migration". Further still, what some don't recognize is some of these African immigrants may actually be the descendants of slave traders themselves. That conversation is a much more interesting one to have, but is dismissed based on skin pigmentation (they're Black like you, so why can they do it and you can't?), because people don't generally think of Africa as having class/caste systems.
@ Apparently, you have a problem with comprehension. Africans, by sheer fact of data, are not coming to America as an underclass society in their home country, just to work their way out of poverty in America. The majority of poor Africans DO NOT come to America. According to the World Bank (or maybe it was the IMF), the average African makes about $5 US. If some of those poorer Africans do find their way into America, it's typically under refugee status or asylum seekers, but the greater portion of Africans who relocate have some kind of secondary education and at least some professional skills.
Secondly, reparations, as I mentioned in my previous comment, was never paid. The federal government simply de-legislated draconian laws that should have been seen as unconstitutional IN THE FIRST PLACE. The majority of the laws coming out of the 60s civil rights movement were performative, many of which were laws that were already on the books-- the right to vote (15th amendment for the 1860s and again in the 1960s under the voting rights act). Reparations would be payment for lost wages, lost property from homegrown terrorist campaigns, and the Unites States actively choosing winners and losers in the American economy through government subsidy, favorable legislation, and not protecting its citizens from discriminatory application of laws. Affirmative Action included White women, therefore, it could not be seen as reparations. 256 years of slavery then 100 years of Black codes and Jim Crow did not happen to White women.
Lastly, entitlement programs built the American White middle class. The New Deal was nothing more than a massive transfer of wealth through housing, credit, and jobs programs, that Blacks were almost completely locked out of. Whites simply were never forced to the hold the image of victims and welfare recipients, thus they get to lie to themselves about how they made it with the sweat of their own brow.
This was better than a college class 😆. New education.
How do I take advantage of South Dakota !? or is that only if you have a lot of money or something? Geeez!
This was a great episode
I watched all of it in one go, it was really fascinating ! Will probably read the book too now !
what about ownership of illusionary items / virtual items?
Can people improve their DNA? Will they make more and better DNA if we give them a property right? If not, I don't see the point.
This book is mine. I don't mine if you use it. I'm going to dig in this mine. I'm not a minor. :D XD
Who owns "skeptic" ? the channel? Google?
Shermer.
@ he owns google? XD
Knowing the racist history of the Democratic party, only the Democrats should pay reparations to our struggling black brothers and sisters.
Jesus should/could come back. Second coming, brought on by copyright issues.
But then, of course, the judge would be biased. Either that or the Supreme court..
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