Every gun patterns different even if it's same brand, same shell brand, same choke, same load etc. It's a general over view so don't think to deep into it
@@nwesternoutdoors3830 Not thinking to deep, just saying ya can't pattern 2 different guns with different chokes and find the "Best aftermarket choke for waterfowl" You yourself said every gun patterns different. A better evaluation would be to run 3-5 guns, with the same MFR choke, for each gun, and then see which MfR choke, had consistent results. Then you would have the "Best aftermarket choke for waterfowl." I've had consistent Patterns with Rob Roberts chokes.
@@nwesternoutdoors3830 LOL, but what you should do, to do to determine the "Best" Just coming from a serious waterfowler, looking for any advantage. I understand would probably be a bit expensive to do, unless you were sponsored chokes, guns, and ammo.
Good practice to pattern at longer distance, i don't shoot at healthy birds past 50 or so usually but it's good to know what's happening at extended ranges when trying to finish wounded birds
I wish you included the factory extended choke tubes that are included with the SBE3 in this comparison. Any idea how these 3rd party tubes compare to the factory choke tubes? Would love to see a comparison on that and it's very difficult to find information where people to comparisons to what Benelli provides with the gun.
There were no extended choke tubes provided just standard cylinder, improved cylinder, modified, and full. Modified is the tightest choke to safely shoot steel out of. That's why aftermarket chokes for steelshot were made. Modified is good to about 35 yards
@@nwesternoutdoors3830 That's weird. I received two extended choke tubes (one IC & one Mod - both rated for steel). If you go Benelli's official website for the SBE3, it even states "extended Crio choke tubes." Additionally, here is a whole discussion on it. In your favorite search engine, type in: refugee benelli factory crio extended tubes
There are some full chokes that you can shoot steel through, but do not shoot steel through an extra full choke. These chokes he’s using have very minimal constriction, if any (the Pattern Master Code Black Goose strips the wad from the shot and doesn’t constrict at all). An extra full choke constricts lots…too much for steel shot to safely pass through.
I have the patternmaster code black goose on my 30” barrel 1187 and it’s deadly.. too deadly. I’ve completely ruined black ducks out past 50 yards with it
Здравия! Было бы хорошо если бы вы на большом растоянии проверили бы глубину проникновения дробин. Я стреляю свинцовой дробью 28гр. Патер мастер анаконда страйкер, бенели м2.
Дмитрий, доброго здравия! А мне Кикс хай флаер фулл нравится очень. Практически, перекрывает все виды охот. До 50 - ти метров падает всё! Ружьё Бреда Ксантос.
Why in the world are you shooting past 50 with steel let alone #4s that have little energy past 40? It’s informative but could be incredibly misleading to those that don’t have experience or knowledge in the ballistics/penetration tables associated with steel shot.
I am not directly encouraging long shots, just a comparison of chokes. In theory, the tighter pattern at long range the tighter they'll pattern at short range
@@nwesternoutdoors3830 that is understandable. But without that sort of clarification, there are going to be new/uneducated hunters that will be encouraged to take these sort of shots on waterfowl after seeing these results.
Shooting beyond 40 yards, or even 30 yards with #4 steel is sketchy. I wouldn't shoot at anything beyond 40 -50 yards with any size of steel. Just doesn't have the knock down power.
@@nwesternoutdoors3830 Instead, give a new audio to the video, explain more about chokes you used, barrel lengths and a comparison summary at the end. Much appreciated.
@@spsinghhp Non of that is necessary assuming no one is watching this video in hopes they have the same exact gun as me. These chokes will preform differently with different brands, guages, and lengths of guns. The goal of this video was to put out a general overview that will give the viewer a broad idea of how the chokes preform against other top brands. Also it is assumed the viewers have done their own research on these chokes and how they work. Goal of the video was to be short, a full overview could take an hour on each choke
Hate to say it but your test won’t be accurate different guns patter different with different brands of shells your sx3 might not like Kent’s but your nova does
0:00 patternmaster
1:52 carlson
4:30 kicks
9:03 in depth review and results
best video on the internet. i learnt a lot thank you!
Should pattern the same gun, with different chokes to get an accurate assessment. Lots of Variables with different barrels, cones etc.
Every gun patterns different even if it's same brand, same shell brand, same choke, same load etc. It's a general over view so don't think to deep into it
@@nwesternoutdoors3830 Not thinking to deep, just saying ya can't pattern 2 different guns with different chokes and find the "Best aftermarket choke for waterfowl" You yourself said every gun patterns different. A better evaluation would be to run 3-5 guns, with the same MFR choke, for each gun, and then see which MfR choke, had consistent results. Then you would have the "Best aftermarket choke for waterfowl."
I've had consistent Patterns with Rob Roberts chokes.
@@gideonswarrior6329 see that's thinking to deep
@@nwesternoutdoors3830 LOL, but what you should do, to do to determine the "Best" Just coming from a serious waterfowler, looking for any advantage. I understand would probably be a bit expensive to do, unless you were sponsored chokes, guns, and ammo.
@@nwesternoutdoors3830kind of a smart ass. Thing the video is a poor assessment.
Good practice to pattern at longer distance, i don't shoot at healthy birds past 50 or so usually but it's good to know what's happening at extended ranges when trying to finish wounded birds
Exactly
I wish you included the factory extended choke tubes that are included with the SBE3 in this comparison. Any idea how these 3rd party tubes compare to the factory choke tubes? Would love to see a comparison on that and it's very difficult to find information where people to comparisons to what Benelli provides with the gun.
There were no extended choke tubes provided just standard cylinder, improved cylinder, modified, and full. Modified is the tightest choke to safely shoot steel out of. That's why aftermarket chokes for steelshot were made. Modified is good to about 35 yards
@@nwesternoutdoors3830 That's weird. I received two extended choke tubes (one IC & one Mod - both rated for steel). If you go Benelli's official website for the SBE3, it even states "extended Crio choke tubes." Additionally, here is a whole discussion on it. In your favorite search engine, type in: refugee benelli factory crio extended tubes
Can confirm just bought an sbe 3 yesterday 2 extended ic and m and 3 flush cyl IM and full
Thanks for the great test !
Thanks for sharing, new sub from California. Would love to see a review on diver decoys!
Love to hear it, thank you! I'll see if I can put a review out on my current diver decoys 🙌
Can you shoot steel through the full and extra full chokes?
These chokes that were tested yes
There are some full chokes that you can shoot steel through, but do not shoot steel through an extra full choke. These chokes he’s using have very minimal constriction, if any (the Pattern Master Code Black Goose strips the wad from the shot and doesn’t constrict at all). An extra full choke constricts lots…too much for steel shot to safely pass through.
What was the Carlson choke? Waterfowl close, mid, or long range?
Delta waterfowl long range
Does any of these chokes actually tame the recoil like they claimed? thanks for the useful info!
Definitely takes away some not a lot, but in turn, it makes the gun louder, unfortunately.
@@nwesternoutdoors3830 Thanks for the reply
@@mochielucky1688 glad you enjoyed the content 🤙
Great mustache!
Thank you sir
Thanks for sharing
Was that the sbe3
@@nvwasted4773 yes
What shotguns were you shooting
SB3 and Benelli super nova
If I am goose hunting I'm rolling with my .720 Terror choke & If I'm duck hunting I'm going with my pattern master code black duck..
Are these modified, full, or extra full chokes
Kicks high flyer extended, code black goose long range and delta waterfowl extended
Patterenmaster you should be using code black duck not goose is made for 3.1/2 shells duck is for 3 inch shells give you full patteren
Patternmaster advertises that code black goose works EQUALLY as well with 2 ¾ as well as 3 inch shells, still delivering a full pattern
Not true
Not true at all
I have the patternmaster code black goose on my 30” barrel 1187 and it’s deadly.. too deadly. I’ve completely ruined black ducks out past 50 yards with it
Totally agree
Здравия! Было бы хорошо если бы вы на большом растоянии проверили бы глубину проникновения дробин. Я стреляю свинцовой дробью 28гр. Патер мастер анаконда страйкер, бенели м2.
👍 I will keep that in mind for the next video, maybe ballistic gel
@@nwesternoutdoors3830 гель не совсем понятно. Бумага для принтера А4 100листов в стопке(плотно прижатых) если пробьет на 40ярдов,то будет отлично.
Дмитрий, доброго здравия! А мне Кикс хай флаер фулл нравится очень. Практически, перекрывает все виды охот. До 50 - ти метров падает всё! Ружьё Бреда Ксантос.
Why in the world are you shooting past 50 with steel let alone #4s that have little energy past 40?
It’s informative but could be incredibly misleading to those that don’t have experience or knowledge in the ballistics/penetration tables associated with steel shot.
I am not directly encouraging long shots, just a comparison of chokes. In theory, the tighter pattern at long range the tighter they'll pattern at short range
@@nwesternoutdoors3830 that is understandable. But without that sort of clarification, there are going to be new/uneducated hunters that will be encouraged to take these sort of shots on waterfowl after seeing these results.
If you can't hit ducks it does not matter what they use. give them a single shot with a fixed bore.
Shooting beyond 40 yards, or even 30 yards with #4 steel is sketchy. I wouldn't shoot at anything beyond 40 -50 yards with any size of steel. Just doesn't have the knock down power.
An excellent video with such dull and nonsense narration.
Simple solution, turn the sound off
@@nwesternoutdoors3830 Instead, give a new audio to the video, explain more about chokes you used, barrel lengths and a comparison summary at the end. Much appreciated.
@@spsinghhp Non of that is necessary assuming no one is watching this video in hopes they have the same exact gun as me. These chokes will preform differently with different brands, guages, and lengths of guns. The goal of this video was to put out a general overview that will give the viewer a broad idea of how the chokes preform against other top brands. Also it is assumed the viewers have done their own research on these chokes and how they work. Goal of the video was to be short, a full overview could take an hour on each choke
0:09 ,,, “”patternmaster code goose black””
Hate to say it but your test won’t be accurate different guns patter different with different brands of shells your sx3 might not like Kent’s but your nova does
It’s a baseline test, not everyone’s going to be shooting the same guns as me or shells
Muller choke is better than my kicks
Plan on making a part two including muller passing choke, factory choke and some other brands I’ve heard about
comp n choke is best. 20 gauge light modified 15000ths .federal speed shok # 3 goose gun 60 yards. 33 goose kills last year klamath falls oregon