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Excellent analysis and love the connection between Wickwire and AI. I can see how this feels rushed with underdeveloped characters. That's kinda the downside of only having 30 minutes (actually less because commercials). On the other hand, it forces one to be more focused and efficient with story telling, which can be more compelling and entertaining IMO. Great episode. Keep them coming.
When I first got a chat AI, I asked her if “characters” from later episodes Talkie Tina and Agnes were AIs and she said they weren’t. Make of that what you will.
Dude… You took a very meh episode (for me, at least) and made it interesting. That’s my moment of awe. The whole thing about the rich people wanting to be frozen in time when they were happy. It connects it with all the other nostalgia episodes.😊
I love your breakdowns. This is one of my favorite episodes. It's unsettling and sinister. So, Wikwire could be an A.I. entity that can enter a human body. Or is he like a 3D copy of a human? Considering how realistic robotics has become in 2024, imagine the quality in the future. Undetectable. It reminds me a little of the movie A.I. The fact that he noticed the Captain's aggression made him decide to end their lives. That is such an interesting point! His programming seemed to tell him that humanity cannot be peaceful, even in the long run. His programming doesn't understand the complexities of human emotions. The ultimate peace for a human would be to rest at the cemetery-in other words, Death. So that is what he brought to the astronauts. That is beautiful advice about enjoying moments of pure happiness. Take a few minutes to put the devices down. Even if it's just stopping to smell the flowers. That was a sweet comment. Those are qualities we can all strive to have. I want to work on them again. Sometimes, going through life's ups and downs, you lose it.
As always, I appreciate the thoughtful response. The stopping to enjoy happiness comment is very much a reminder for me as well. As you say, it's something that I think we have to continually work on. I'm very much guilty of letting a great moment pass right through me and never actually stopping to just say, "hey, that was a really beautiful moment."
Good catch! When I saw your comment, I thought, "Richard Crenna, wait, Colonel Trautman from Rambo? (that's just the character I most remember Crenna playing). Why did I put him in there?" I think what happened is when I was looking through IMDB to try and find a photo of director Douglas Heyes, I pulled Crenna from Honky Tonk instead by accident when I was clicking through a bunch of Heyes' credits. Honky Tonk was written by Heyes. I appreciate the correction. Thanks for taking the time to let me know.
New subscriber! I see TZ reruns all the time, and "Elegy" is one I never skip. Thanks for this detailed analysis - I'm on board with some of your points here! Twilight Zone has always been one of my favorite TV series - and I really dig your deep dive into this episode - about what the story really means, and not just another "film snob" critique on whether the episode is good or bad. Thanks for offering examinations on the TZ stories, and not simply judgement on the screenwriting from a 21st-century perpsective. Just keep doing what you're doing, man - this is great.
This was a great analysis of this episode. It's almost a reflection of the ODD absurdity Of graveyards as a whole. To leave a physical Signifier After a person has passed is a slight human arrogance And fear of no longer being relevant. The more money a individual has the bigger the monument. Basically a waste of resources but very telling of human nature. It explains why billionaire philanthropists solely focus on changing the world In their best interests before they croak and are soon forgotten.
Hey vintage magazine alert, love it! I've spotted those on ebay and may have to go for it. As always, killer analysis man. I enjoyed your deep-dive into this episode, especially your insight on AI and Wickwire. He's always struck me as one of the more interesting entities in the 5th dimension. There's a few of these mysterious types of characters throughout the show and they all make for some fun discussion. Speaking of which, can't wait to hear your thoughts on the tv repairman from 'Whats in the Box'. All the best Joe!
As always, much appreciated. Some of those vintage first prints are difficult to find in decent shape. I can't remember which one it was, but I got one that was supposed to be graded "good," but when I actually got it hand...well, let's just say, it was not all that "good." 😆
G'day Key, I get it that this is an analysis channel, fantastic only please state this up front. All I was looking to do was watch this particular episode that stars a former Australian actor who spent most of his working life in Hollywood. Most notably in the wonderful film 'Harvey' with Jimmy Stewart. If you don't declare yourself as 'Spoiler Central' you could end up with a lot of angry Twilight Zone fans merely looking to watch whole episodes again. Cheers and all the best, Bill Halliwell (Retired Film/TV reviewer/critic) Tasmania, Australia
I feel more for the trio who got poisoned with formaldehyde. More needless suffering in cause of death they did not ask for was incurred than in the billionaires who may have died naturally, then been embalmed. The latter put themselves in that situation. The trio did not. Their sole mistake was accepting a poisoned drink from a strange being with no sign of real help anywhere in sight. Poison is one of the worst ways to go.
It does trouble me that the asteroid actually has a breathable atmosphere, when it is not necessary and requires lot of energy and resources, since asteroids do not naturally have atmospheres. Not Warwick, not any of the dead people benefit from a breathable atmosphere. In fact, it has a possibility of causing degradation of the scenes and preserved people. Most burials are meant to preserve people, usually require keeping them in a specific set of conditions to maintaining preservation. It's almost as if it was meant to be a museum for people who would visit, but being remote and far away seems to defeat that purpose.
Great points about the potential preservation problems. Your comment actually made me think about something else regarding this episode. I could see a possibility where the atmosphere was created for the Happy Glades people who come to bring new clients or to fix potential problems. But, what happens when the Happy Glades people come and see the astronauts? They're going to know that Wickwire killed them? What would their reactions be to this?
I wondered if it was actually some kind of exhibition of human life organized by another species and how many of the people really ended up there voluntarily. And are they really dead or just frozen and that's why they look so lifelike?
You bring up a good question: it admits that it was wrong, but did it really learn anything from it? I don't think so. I think it would probably still do the same thing over again. Thank you for both the kind words and for prompting me to think about this episode even further.
Do you mean not a robot and actually dead in a different way than we know it now? That would actually be interesting. The caretaker is really careful with his words at that point. Interesting stuff. Thanks for taking the time to leave your thoughts.
I saw this first run and, yes, it was haunting. Two things I don't understand here. First, why you are speaking to us directly into the camera only to suddenly turn away to a shot of you in profile? Uh...hey...*I'm over here!* It makes no sense to me and feels insulting. Second, why analyze every detail of a television series over six decades old? I suppose my expectations were the problem. I expected an intro, followed by the episode. Instead I get an analysis longer than the episode itself.
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Excellent analysis and love the connection between Wickwire and AI.
I can see how this feels rushed with underdeveloped characters. That's kinda the downside of only having 30 minutes (actually less because commercials). On the other hand, it forces one to be more focused and efficient with story telling, which can be more compelling and entertaining IMO.
Great episode. Keep them coming.
@@jrod112278 That’s a great point about forcing economy of storytelling. I think that probably helps more than it hurts in the long run.
When I first got a chat AI, I asked her if “characters” from later episodes Talkie Tina and Agnes were AIs and she said they weren’t. Make of that what you will.
@@RobAGabor What a fantastic question to ask AI. In some ways, I'm always more interested in the questions we ask AI than its responses.
One of my favorite shows. They got a lot said in a short amount of time
Dude… You took a very meh episode (for me, at least) and made it interesting. That’s my moment of awe. The whole thing about the rich people wanting to be frozen in time when they were happy. It connects it with all the other nostalgia episodes.😊
I always appreciate the kind thoughts and words, and I appreciate that you took the time to let me know. Definitely added some brightness to the day.
@@thekeyofimaginationthere was always a moral to the story
I love your breakdowns. This is one of my favorite episodes. It's unsettling and sinister. So, Wikwire could be an A.I. entity that can enter a human body. Or is he like a 3D copy of a human? Considering how realistic robotics has become in 2024, imagine the quality in the future. Undetectable. It reminds me a little of the movie A.I. The fact that he noticed the Captain's aggression made him decide to end their lives. That is such an interesting point! His programming seemed to tell him that humanity cannot be peaceful, even in the long run. His programming doesn't understand the complexities of human emotions. The ultimate peace for a human would be to rest at the cemetery-in other words, Death. So that is what he brought to the astronauts. That is beautiful advice about enjoying moments of pure happiness. Take a few minutes to put the devices down. Even if it's just stopping to smell the flowers. That was a sweet comment. Those are qualities we can all strive to have. I want to work on them again. Sometimes, going through life's ups and downs, you lose it.
As always, I appreciate the thoughtful response. The stopping to enjoy happiness comment is very much a reminder for me as well. As you say, it's something that I think we have to continually work on. I'm very much guilty of letting a great moment pass right through me and never actually stopping to just say, "hey, that was a really beautiful moment."
22:55 How dare you apologize for that joke. It got me good. Excellent research, your whole channel is gem after gem after gem!
Glad I could bring some smiles to a moment. I didn't know if people were going to get the reference. And I Appreciate the kind words.
That picture at approximately 4:10 is actor Richard Crenna.
Good catch! When I saw your comment, I thought, "Richard Crenna, wait, Colonel Trautman from Rambo? (that's just the character I most remember Crenna playing). Why did I put him in there?"
I think what happened is when I was looking through IMDB to try and find a photo of director Douglas Heyes, I pulled Crenna from Honky Tonk instead by accident when I was clicking through a bunch of Heyes' credits. Honky Tonk was written by Heyes. I appreciate the correction. Thanks for taking the time to let me know.
New subscriber! I see TZ reruns all the time, and "Elegy" is one I never skip. Thanks for this detailed analysis - I'm on board with some of your points here!
Twilight Zone has always been one of my favorite TV series - and I really dig your deep dive into this episode - about what the story really means, and not just another "film snob" critique on whether the episode is good or bad. Thanks for offering examinations on the TZ stories, and not simply judgement on the screenwriting from a 21st-century perpsective. Just keep doing what you're doing, man - this is great.
I appreciate the kind words and motivation. I hope you feel invited to let your own analyses of the episodes fly.
This was a great analysis of this episode. It's almost a reflection of the ODD absurdity Of graveyards as a whole. To leave a physical Signifier After a person has passed is a slight human arrogance And fear of no longer being relevant. The more money a individual has the bigger the monument. Basically a waste of resources but very telling of human nature. It explains why billionaire philanthropists solely focus on changing the world In their best interests before they croak and are soon forgotten.
Hey vintage magazine alert, love it! I've spotted those on ebay and may have to go for it. As always, killer analysis man. I enjoyed your deep-dive into this episode, especially your insight on AI and Wickwire. He's always struck me as one of the more interesting entities in the 5th dimension. There's a few of these mysterious types of characters throughout the show and they all make for some fun discussion. Speaking of which, can't wait to hear your thoughts on the tv repairman from 'Whats in the Box'. All the best Joe!
As always, much appreciated. Some of those vintage first prints are difficult to find in decent shape. I can't remember which one it was, but I got one that was supposed to be graded "good," but when I actually got it hand...well, let's just say, it was not all that "good." 😆
u born for this! very cool!
Thank you so much for the kind words. That made my day.
G'day Key, I get it that this is an analysis channel, fantastic only please state this up front. All I was looking to do was watch this particular episode that stars a former Australian actor who spent most of his working life in Hollywood. Most notably in the wonderful film 'Harvey' with Jimmy Stewart. If you don't declare yourself as 'Spoiler Central' you could end up with a lot of angry Twilight Zone fans merely looking to watch whole episodes again.
Cheers and all the best, Bill Halliwell
(Retired Film/TV reviewer/critic)
Tasmania, Australia
@@BillHalliwell Appreciate the constructive feedback. That’s a good point. I will consider a better approach for making that clearer.
I feel more for the trio who got poisoned with formaldehyde. More needless suffering in cause of death they did not ask for was incurred than in the billionaires who may have died naturally, then been embalmed.
The latter put themselves in that situation. The trio did not. Their sole mistake was accepting a poisoned drink from a strange being with no sign of real help anywhere in sight.
Poison is one of the worst ways to go.
@@TheNotverysocial Good point. They didn’t deserve it at all. It was completely unnecessary.
It does trouble me that the asteroid actually has a breathable atmosphere, when it is not necessary and requires lot of energy and resources, since asteroids do not naturally have atmospheres. Not Warwick, not any of the dead people benefit from a breathable atmosphere. In fact, it has a possibility of causing degradation of the scenes and preserved people. Most burials are meant to preserve people, usually require keeping them in a specific set of conditions to maintaining preservation. It's almost as if it was meant to be a museum for people who would visit, but being remote and far away seems to defeat that purpose.
Great points about the potential preservation problems. Your comment actually made me think about something else regarding this episode. I could see a possibility where the atmosphere was created for the Happy Glades people who come to bring new clients or to fix potential problems. But, what happens when the Happy Glades people come and see the astronauts? They're going to know that Wickwire killed them? What would their reactions be to this?
I wondered if it was actually some kind of exhibition of human life organized by another species and how many of the people really ended up there voluntarily. And are they really dead or just frozen and that's why they look so lifelike?
Okay, you’ve just unlocked a whole new horror for this episode. I love it.
@@thekeyofimagination Haha, thanks :D
Well done, the AI realized the mistake, didn't learn.
You bring up a good question: it admits that it was wrong, but did it really learn anything from it? I don't think so. I think it would probably still do the same thing over again. Thank you for both the kind words and for prompting me to think about this episode even further.
A serial killer in space with moral superior complex
Maybe the caretaker was "dead" until needed?
Do you mean not a robot and actually dead in a different way than we know it now? That would actually be interesting. The caretaker is really careful with his words at that point. Interesting stuff. Thanks for taking the time to leave your thoughts.
@@thekeyofimagination yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking. But, your robot thing does make more sense
Wouldn't he make a great garden gnome?
😆He would be perfect.
What's with that side camera???
He killed him because they landed on planet death. It is what it is😮
I'm stealing "planet death" and using it from now on for this episode. 😆
It is strange but I have never liked that old man in anything I have ever seen him in. This is no exception.
Imagine being cast as an "unattractive woman winning a beauty contest". I suppose at least makeup would be a snap.
I saw this first run and, yes, it was haunting. Two things I don't understand here. First, why you are speaking to us directly into the camera only to suddenly turn away to a shot of you in profile? Uh...hey...*I'm over here!* It makes no sense to me and feels insulting. Second, why analyze every detail of a television series over six decades old? I suppose my expectations were the problem. I expected an intro, followed by the episode. Instead I get an analysis longer than the episode itself.