@@jackofblades6083 not the same man. I feel horrid for what European woke moronic post WW2 culture caused, and the role the Faggy USA plays, but man....India is a CASTE system, Scotland is fucking Great Britain rofl
T'au Watercaste memeber: ''.. you will have a wife assigned to you...' human: '..I'm IN.' T'au : '.. You will be trained to a suitable job for your skills ...' human: '.. OK .. I said I'm IN. .. I don't need to hear anymore' T'au : '..err ..ugh .. Welcome to the T'au.' human T'au: '..When does the woman show up? (anticipation) ..'
to echo one of my D&D characters, "Do you want more Half Tau? Because this is how you get more Half Tau. Ah, yes! Coming my darling! Don't worry! I will carry our little bundle of mayhem I mean joy!"
Not gonna lie. if I was a human in the 40K universe, I'd totally make my way to Tau space. That doesn't by any stretch of the imagination mean that I actually think they're the "Good Guys" just my best bet for a good life comparably.
Agreed! Tau: you will be assigned a job and caste at birth and we will give you every opportunity to succeed also you can have a family real food and high quality medical care. You also get vacation time! Imperium: You were born on the lower levels you say? Well you (and about a billion others) will work in the factory for 18 hours a day sleep in a hovel and eat just pink “Food” paste to keep you alive to the ripe old age of 29! Medical care? We offer free lobotomies to those who wish to join our “servitor enhancement program”
Pretty much would become a trader or similar and take my chances searching space for wrecks to salvage. Pray to avoid a raid by the torturers and hope to make enough to find a planet to live on that's deemed a waste of time to the Tyranids and remote to avoid any of the major races. 40K is an amazing universe but fuck living in it.
Hell no, Tau are just as bad as everyone else. They use their people as cannon fodder due to their weakness, the ethereals view EVERY race even their own as below them and don't get me started on how they used to treat the kroot before the whiney uni student level complaining started... they are intergalactic communists, nothing more lol If you want the ONLY good group in warhammer? Then go with ork.... think about it lol Orks are honest, they like no one equally, orks are single minded, orks love fighting, that's it. They are technically the ONLY "good" race in warhammer because of this XD honesty, they are ALWAYS honest, and if you gain an ork's respect then they will start smashing what is smashing YOU if only because they know it's gonna be an even BETTER fight lol Vote ork for a gloriously WAAAAAAAGH'y future.
Historian's perspective: The Tau are a *young* empire; they can only go up from there, whereas the Imperium of Mankind is akin to the later Roman Empire during the reign of some of the rather less capable emperors. Unless an external force manages to dictate otherwise, the Tau are going to expand until their ability to control and govern what they conquer reaches its limits (which will be heavily influenced by their technology).
The issue I see for the Tau is that keeping up the universal high standard of living that is the main selling point of their empire will be more and more difficult as they expand and are spread ever more thinly across the galaxy with new frobts opening up everywhere. I can see them becoming far more like the imperium when it comes to social repression and societal stratification.😊
Maybe. But that high standard of living may also prove to be a powerful psychological motivator for Tau society as a whole (ie., if everyone knows what they stand to lose if they fail, they will be very highly motivated not to fail). Further, the Tau are as a rough rule of thumb obsessed with efficiency when it comes to using resources, which may very well mitigate the pressure of demand imposed by a wartime socio-economic paradigm. Whichever way it runs this will be an interesting tale to follow. 😏@@HelSeher
The T'au also benefit from the Imperium, the primary Empire that could threaten their expansion, being heavily preoccupied with other, greater challenges and thus being incapable of focusing the majority of their resources on crushing them. The T'au as a whole have a percent of the combined military forces of the Imperium, and if the Imperium could focus its resources on them, they wouldn't stand a chance. But the Imperium is not only facing threats greater than the T'au, but even threats that are militarily far more powerful than the Imperium. Tyranids are the primary example of that. There's not much point devoting resources to dealing with the T'au when there's a flood of sentient bug ships invading that outnumber all the races of the Galaxy combined.
@@Jenn-lq9yu and in order to survive such a galaxy-wide invasion, if the Imperium of Man along with every other sentient race in the galaxy is to survive, it has to be all hands on deck. Like the Japanese during the Mongol invasions, all the old rivalries need to be forgotten, the old grievances set aside in order to present a united front against the existential threat posed by the Tyranids (and to a relatively lesser extent, the threat of Chaos and the threat of the Necrons).
Thank you for covering my favorite faction, too many people write the Tau off, but they have so much potential. Now if only we could get models for the auxiliary species! The big psychic mushroom guys would be sweet
I love the tau because they show how grim dark the 40K universe actually is! When you compare them to the rest of the universe you actually appreciate the grim dark nature of it. The tau are refreshing. Without the tau it’s just: “What’s that games workshop? Another xeno race that’s bent on destroying everyone else? cool…and how are they different from all the other grim dark races? …there not you just wanted to sell more models…ok gotcha…” 😂
Another aspect pointed out by Bricky is that lots of Tau’s major tech advancements come from client races (operative word client, not ally). Like ion weapons of the demiurg and targetting systems of the vespids. Tau diplomacy was originally modelled on nato / western style interactions. Where joining the larger power grants you protection, but the bigger power gains more through strategic positioning, resource or trade access, market access, and in the Tau’s case access to new technologies. Vespids go from being angry and hard to control to order followers after the Tau give them translation/ communication headsets. Humanity’s bond is by blood and history, Tau is a strategic partnership for the greater good, which is defined by the will of the Ethereals, not the people.
Yeah like all the negatives about the Tau are also negatives about the imperium except the imperium is a million times worse, lol. Also if my choice is Tau camp where I have to watch powerpoints about the greater good versus thrown into a penal legion or made a servitor because I got mugged 9 times on my way to work in a hive city to make dead bodies into food and I was late by 30 seconds I think I choose the first option 😂
This while video is pro tau commie propaganda, spewed by a soft voiced soy boy. This video was just annoying af. Barelt made 2/10ths of the way through.
I think another reason people don't dig the Tau is because unlike many other armies in 40k the Tau ARE living their Golden Age, a shining beacon of hope and prosperity :P
Yeah, the straight man in a comedy, as the "normal" guys seeing the craziness around, to keep it a little more grounded Like their stories about the first contact with the orks, hilarious
The tau system is so unfair! No freedom of choice………. Tau: you will be assigned a job and caste at birth and we will give you every opportunity to succeed also you can have a family real food and high quality medical care. You also get vacation time! Imperium: You were born on the lower levels you say? Well you (and about a billion others) will work in the factory for 18 hours a day sleep in a hovel and eat just enough pink “Food” paste to keep you alive to the ripe old age of 29! Medical care? We offer free lobotomies to those who wish to join our “servitor enhancement program”
*IF* the Tau are on the level, and not hiding some kind of horrific, appalling secret, they then could play a pivotal role in the Imperium, finally both making headway against the Tyrannid, Ork and Chaos threats, but also greatly slowing down, or even reversing its slide into the Abyss. So, with that being said, why many (most?) 40k players hate them should become blatantly obvious.
If someone appreciates the golden age history of other settings but can't appreciate one setting that is still in that golden age then they just don't appreciate proper story telling. You can't have all factions at the same place historically, that would just be plain and boring.
I love how some indictments of the T'au are that they 'don't look like the other factions'. Not the ideology, lore, or characters but the fact they look too 'futuristic' or 'sci-fi' in an explicitly futuristic sci-fi setting.
Um, he's with the Ordo Xenos, so he's been sanctioned by the Inquisition's higher ups (and musings that howl of heresy are just another day at the office with the Ordo Xenos).@@hunterchristian8372
Considering the cruelty of the Imperium, faultiness of the humanity and filthiness of other rivals, these Tau guys sound to be the best choice, actually too much to believe....
A large amount of hate towards the Tau race also came about back in the day with a tactic using the devilfish transport, where you would position two devilfish tips end to end to form a V shape and have a bunch of your powerful range units sitting in the center. They were classed as skimmers and at the time hitting one in close combat was very hard and they were large enough that trying to get into melee with their powerful ranged units was far too hard to do. It was so bad that I believe the rules got changed really quickly to fix this broken strat, but it soured a lot of players view of the race and people who played them, which then became a bit of a meme to hate the faction as a whole.
I love this faction but just for fun and for grimdark. In a universe of manipulation and diplomacy style war could there be a dark truth or agenda being hidden and thus loving approach is a way to worm their way in to bring comfort to its people before hitting the kill switch kind of like specific tyranids/chaos gods
Compared to the other empires. So long as you don't try to rebel the tau would be a overall good place to live. Especially if your part of the castes doing the farming, science, and engineers. Your life would be pretty peaceful.
I adore the Tau Empire. Аnd in my opinion, the fact that they don't fit into the overall Warhammer aesthetic is what makes them so unique and attractive.
There are many things I like about the Tau. 1 - they know how their technology works 2 - They are making their history 3 - Their education. This might sound weird but a well educated society is something I like. What I do not like about the Tau. 1 - They are a hive of ants. Each individual is built for a specific role and they are dissuaded from moving out of said role. 2 - they think "The greater good" is the best thing in the universe. 3 - they are innocent I personally think the Tau is the logical evolution for any species to survive in a reality where the Warp exists. If there is a nightmareish dimension where the demons can find you simply because you have a soul. Having a soul with very little presence in the warp is a good way to slip past the demon's notice. The Warp is the cause of many problems and the Tau have an innate survival mechanism that allows them to be ignored by the denseness of the warp. This also explains why Demons and the like are legends.
Classic communist response. 😔 The Boys are the only good guys. Conflict is inevitable and eternal so embracing conflict with a joyous heart is to say "Yes" to eternity. ❤ War is life.
The Tau are a little weak book wise, being somewhat boring, but in GAME? They're the ones who are not demon-aware much and gets to fall from their "what humanity could have been" level of unity and prosperity. Nothing made our playing more fun, frankly, than the Tau falling like noobs. (-;
Eh, rather that than being flayed alive for not worshipping fervently enough and burning babies with albinism because of religious hatred against mutation.
Never played the Tabeltop so no comment on that perspective, but coming from my knowledge from video games and the few books I've read I genuinely can't see why they are as hated as they are, "They don't fit in because they are good" Yeah and I suppose the 1st Eldar, Humans and even the Necrons started off being evil galactic dickheads when they 1st ventured out into space (you need to have had a golden age to fall from it) which leads to my next point "they don't fit because they didn't fall from a golden age" Time didn't stop in the 40k universe, it may feel that way because tech doesn't seem to evolve, but each faction has very specific reasons for their lack of innovation, but due to time still being a thing that exists new civilizations are bound to pop up from time to time, the Tau are in the rising phase of their civilization which is preceding their eventual golden age and their inevitable fall from that golden age Even though the Tau are far from my favorite faction in the setting in my mind they fit perfectly within it as a new upstart civilization taking it's 1st steps in a hostile galaxy
@@bobh9492, I think he is talking about the Men of Iron which is an stupid Idea because those AI are insane because they are having failed coding which forced them to destroy Chaos and maybe those guys see those Fish Boyz as drinking straw of Chaos so they will chop chop bang bang them.
I would love to see more stuff about renegade chapters in general. It's definitely difficult to break imperial conditioning but ultimately I think it has the potential to be an interesting story so maybe one day we'll see it :)
The key word there was renegade. Renegades going against the order of things, that is the point. I, personally, dislike the 'imperium choir boys' when they try to claim that a Space Marine wouldn't defect to the Tau. They want their chosen faction to be pure, angelic, and the very idea that they might still have some 'humanity' left in them is just... well, fanboys just can't stomach the idea of their faction being anything less then divine. Falling to Chaos is allowed, that is still religious after all, but falling to... human empathy... heaven forbid! It is the Empirical Cult for a reason.
The Greater Good is interesting to me, however... what is it? In other series, such as the Culture by Ian M. Banks, this concept is better explored. There is a group of powerful A.I. that have calculated a numerical value for 'happiness' and decided it will be their guiding force. This use of math to justify... anything... doesn't make them the good guys but it does make them so admirable that people forget they are not the good guys. Tau feel a shallow version of that, but I see where it could go. As for the mystery of the Ethereal though: I view them as the survivor of a previous empire, trying to rebuild without revealing whom they really are. Not saying they are a major player from the past though, so many names have come and gone with little depth to them and it is better if they where one such name. It makes them a little more tragic, they have tried the greater good before, again and again.
The entire idea is based off mills theory of utilitarian value. Although it might seem logical it has it's paradoxes mainly in perspective. For example if we had to kill a thousand people to save ten thousand we might consider by numbers that it is the greatest good. However that is entirely dependent on how you view the individual capabilities and potential of each individual or rather that you don't. In effect there may be individuals within that first thousand that have capabilities far exceeding the other ten thousand. And they may by causation survive otherwise if left alone and bring about greater or multiplying benefits. It might not be savory for people to consider one life being more valuable than another. But in the scheme of achieving results it is whether it be used for whatever perspective purposes.
@@fireteamomega2343, I think they're Greater Good origin is from they're Goddess Tau"va which I imagine those Etherial guys are just cult to this Chaos God and this Chaos God indoctrinated them and give them knowledge and when those Fish Boyz unite they're people, they just forget this Chaos Goddess and that Chaos Goddess didn't show up until it shows up to Shadowsun.
Question: shouldn’t GW change the lore of the Tau Empire? I mean this noise about a Water Caste and Fire Caste is lame homies! We need a Big Jubblies Caste, a Huge Booty Caste, etc.!!!
I kind of doubt the Tau would be able to reverse engineer Necron tech. With how advanced the necrons are it feels like the scientific principles their stuff is built on are just too complex and esoteric for a new race to just learn them.
Not just that lore wise it states necron tech self destructs if it can’t phase out. I highly doubt even a fringe world wouldn’t have some self destruct sequence.
How Tau conquer and win the Galaxy is simple ... they wipe out all the baddies 🤣 no seriously once they have wiped out The Imperium and converted any smart enough to be on the winning side, Chaos will cease to be and they'll probably weaponise the Orks similar to the Kroot and then they'll start dealing with any Eldar or Tyranids that show up. I feel like Necrons are the last boss as they are O.P asf!
"While the tau empire struggle to make their players feel like they are part of a grander history" This right here is the exact problem with tau, they do NOT fit in to the warhammer universe, they never did and they were made purely for the people whining about how "everything is so nasty, its all dark, i want shiney things, i want peaceful I WANT A BUNCH OF EXPENSIVE GUNDAMS I LIKE ANIME WAAAAAH!" and so, the tau were created lol They still feel like a tumor on the franchise to this day and like they were pulled from ANOTHER table top.
Not to make it all political but there is also the issue of them basically being space Commies. That in and of itself is going to turn off a chunk or the player base, especially in the US.
In the age of information, these people can just read some communist writings, (I'd recommend starting with "What is to be done" by Lenin) that will solve the issues
Tau already have the most advanced weapons and fire power. The problem is just their numbers and naive generosity toward every single race hell even the necrons they tried to extend peace to lol. They actually almost reached light speed. But they're still working on it unfortunately. And currently they actually do hold stalemate against most imperium forces currently because they are smarter with their resources and gear. Plus not to mention they're way better at utilizing allies and tactics. Where as the imperium just throws numbers at everything until something sticks. Tau don't do that because they realize how useless that method is. Plus eldari actually needed to ally with Tau because the Tau actually hold their own against tyranids. Not a crushing victory but hey the fact they can hold their own to begin with lmfao. Also mech suits give astartes a run for their money every time guaranteed. Dreadnought also get clowned on by current x model suits.
@@sebastijanglozinic8630 yea they were willing to take the chance. But they've learned from their mistakes since then. Those dark eldar masochists honestly hate everyone that ain't them even then they probably hate themselves too lmao
@@vgamedude9811 nah it's not their motto. They've been this determined for years. They are horrified by how the imperium treat their own would never stoop to that level
It's very important to add to the massive propaganda speel... that's what they say and promise.but much like the USSR ideals/propaganda. There is all chances that the reality of Tau is a lot more grim than they want it to look
the tau are written like they aren't facing any hardships and always find the best way to fix everything very idealized concepts but hardly any downsides, it seems a bit unrealistic to be honest
Just wait until you hear what the tau do to their own species if an individual has intimate relations with an individual from another member species. You won't though, because that doesn't fit the narative of the etherials or GW.
if you like the Tau I feel like you are on the same level as furries, can’t convince me otherwise. Btw I feel like GW might have the Tau in the setting as a way to have a real time fall of Rome type civilization, like all the other races already had their fall, but the Tau haven’t yet, which could happen by a Shadowsun Heresy with the new goddess. It would make them closer to the covenant from halo, which would be way better tbh.
Tau empire is like a rich kid moving into a trailer park and pretending he knows how to fix everything because he never actually had to try for anything.
And that is the hazard of the Greater Good (and communism) it’s all good til it’s not good for you personally. Ironically the virtue of “taking one for the team” is outside it.
I could argue the tyranids are actually a degree of “good” because they’re just fulfilling their natural mandate and doing their job. It’s at least better than everyone else.
WAAAGGHH is making fun of the way Brits speak, it's just the word War drawn out as a battle cry. Meaning you don't pronounce the G's or H's. It's just WWAAAAAA!!!!
As an Indian who already lives in a caste society I think it's safe to say 80% of Indians will jump ship to Tau side compared to the Imperium
As a Scotsman who also lives in an industrial caste system I wholeheartedly agree 😂
Fastest way to condemn the planet to quarantine for the aiding of Xenos!
@@Operator--du4ek u just bullies, we will fight u
@@jackofblades6083 not the same man. I feel horrid for what European woke moronic post WW2 culture caused, and the role the Faggy USA plays, but man....India is a CASTE system, Scotland is fucking Great Britain rofl
Good smelly riddance.
T'au Watercaste memeber: ''.. you will have a wife assigned to you...'
human: '..I'm IN.'
T'au : '.. You will be trained to a suitable job for your skills ...'
human: '.. OK .. I said I'm IN. .. I don't need to hear anymore'
T'au : '..err ..ugh .. Welcome to the T'au.'
human T'au: '..When does the woman show up? (anticipation) ..'
Tau : "Your job is your life, you can't change it ever."
human: '..I said I was IN.'
Average Warhammer fan: "U GIMME WOMAN?!"
to echo one of my D&D characters, "Do you want more Half Tau? Because this is how you get more Half Tau. Ah, yes! Coming my darling! Don't worry! I will carry our little bundle of mayhem I mean joy!"
@eddiebendigo7317 lol what is best way to get girls in Warhammer? Slaanesh?
Not gonna lie. if I was a human in the 40K universe, I'd totally make my way to Tau space. That doesn't by any stretch of the imagination mean that I actually think they're the "Good Guys" just my best bet for a good life comparably.
Agreed!
Tau: you will be assigned a job and caste at birth and we will give you every opportunity to succeed also you can have a family real food and high quality medical care. You also get vacation time!
Imperium: You were born on the lower levels you say? Well you (and about a billion others) will work in the factory for 18 hours a day sleep in a hovel and eat just pink “Food” paste to keep you alive to the ripe old age of 29! Medical care? We offer free lobotomies to those who wish to join our “servitor enhancement program”
Pretty much would become a trader or similar and take my chances searching space for wrecks to salvage. Pray to avoid a raid by the torturers and hope to make enough to find a planet to live on that's deemed a waste of time to the Tyranids and remote to avoid any of the major races. 40K is an amazing universe but fuck living in it.
Hell no, Tau are just as bad as everyone else. They use their people as cannon fodder due to their weakness, the ethereals view EVERY race even their own as below them and don't get me started on how they used to treat the kroot before the whiney uni student level complaining started... they are intergalactic communists, nothing more lol If you want the ONLY good group in warhammer? Then go with ork.... think about it lol Orks are honest, they like no one equally, orks are single minded, orks love fighting, that's it. They are technically the ONLY "good" race in warhammer because of this XD honesty, they are ALWAYS honest, and if you gain an ork's respect then they will start smashing what is smashing YOU if only because they know it's gonna be an even BETTER fight lol Vote ork for a gloriously WAAAAAAAGH'y future.
Historian's perspective: The Tau are a *young* empire; they can only go up from there, whereas the Imperium of Mankind is akin to the later Roman Empire during the reign of some of the rather less capable emperors. Unless an external force manages to dictate otherwise, the Tau are going to expand until their ability to control and govern what they conquer reaches its limits (which will be heavily influenced by their technology).
The issue I see for the Tau is that keeping up the universal high standard of living that is the main selling point of their empire will be more and more difficult as they expand and are spread ever more thinly across the galaxy with new frobts opening up everywhere. I can see them becoming far more like the imperium when it comes to social repression and societal stratification.😊
Maybe. But that high standard of living may also prove to be a powerful psychological motivator for Tau society as a whole (ie., if everyone knows what they stand to lose if they fail, they will be very highly motivated not to fail). Further, the Tau are as a rough rule of thumb obsessed with efficiency when it comes to using resources, which may very well mitigate the pressure of demand imposed by a wartime socio-economic paradigm. Whichever way it runs this will be an interesting tale to follow. 😏@@HelSeher
@@lelanderickson1045 almost like dwarfs in fantasy!
The T'au also benefit from the Imperium, the primary Empire that could threaten their expansion, being heavily preoccupied with other, greater challenges and thus being incapable of focusing the majority of their resources on crushing them. The T'au as a whole have a percent of the combined military forces of the Imperium, and if the Imperium could focus its resources on them, they wouldn't stand a chance. But the Imperium is not only facing threats greater than the T'au, but even threats that are militarily far more powerful than the Imperium.
Tyranids are the primary example of that. There's not much point devoting resources to dealing with the T'au when there's a flood of sentient bug ships invading that outnumber all the races of the Galaxy combined.
@@Jenn-lq9yu and in order to survive such a galaxy-wide invasion, if the Imperium of Man along with every other sentient race in the galaxy is to survive, it has to be all hands on deck. Like the Japanese during the Mongol invasions, all the old rivalries need to be forgotten, the old grievances set aside in order to present a united front against the existential threat posed by the Tyranids (and to a relatively lesser extent, the threat of Chaos and the threat of the Necrons).
Thank you for covering my favorite faction, too many people write the Tau off, but they have so much potential. Now if only we could get models for the auxiliary species! The big psychic mushroom guys would be sweet
I love the tau because they show how grim dark the 40K universe actually is! When you compare them to the rest of the universe you actually appreciate the grim dark nature of it. The tau are refreshing. Without the tau it’s just:
“What’s that games workshop? Another xeno race that’s bent on destroying everyone else? cool…and how are they different from all the other grim dark races? …there not you just wanted to sell more models…ok gotcha…” 😂
Another aspect pointed out by Bricky is that lots of Tau’s major tech advancements come from client races (operative word client, not ally). Like ion weapons of the demiurg and targetting systems of the vespids.
Tau diplomacy was originally modelled on nato / western style interactions. Where joining the larger power grants you protection, but the bigger power gains more through strategic positioning, resource or trade access, market access, and in the Tau’s case access to new technologies. Vespids go from being angry and hard to control to order followers after the Tau give them translation/ communication headsets.
Humanity’s bond is by blood and history, Tau is a strategic partnership for the greater good, which is defined by the will of the Ethereals, not the people.
Chaos is full of temptations, but the instant i met the Tau i would become a heretic.
Yeah like all the negatives about the Tau are also negatives about the imperium except the imperium is a million times worse, lol. Also if my choice is Tau camp where I have to watch powerpoints about the greater good versus thrown into a penal legion or made a servitor because I got mugged 9 times on my way to work in a hive city to make dead bodies into food and I was late by 30 seconds I think I choose the first option 😂
I couldn't stop laughing at the propaganda segment 😂😂😂
I'm the same way about the Imperium's dogma
Space Communism at it's best! Lol
You mean the imperium?
This while video is pro tau commie propaganda, spewed by a soft voiced soy boy. This video was just annoying af. Barelt made 2/10ths of the way through.
Tau sound like the Japanese feudal Caste system
Ha! I picked a good day to check out for T'au building series from two years ago, the algo served this up to me fresh!
LOL took me a sec to process the double side of that joke (creepily lovely?)??)
Let's face it, most of those who play Warhammer 40K are into grim dark, period. The Tau don't bother me. I can play them or any other faction.
Tau are communist its still grimdark
The subpoena is on the way. Oh, did I mention I artfully lose regardless of faction?
"Run! It's the special Tau Sashimi division!" (it's Kroot)
killing it with the longer videos comrade
I think another reason people don't dig the Tau is because unlike many other armies in 40k the Tau ARE living their Golden Age, a shining beacon of hope and prosperity :P
I like them as a foil and contrast to the rest of the galaxy.
Yeah, the straight man in a comedy, as the "normal" guys seeing the craziness around, to keep it a little more grounded
Like their stories about the first contact with the orks, hilarious
anime space communism always sounds great on paper.
That joke would be funny if it wasnt as unaccurate to the tau as it is brain dead itself
@@Francesco-gf1sv are you refuring to the joke or the Tau being brain dead?
The tau system is so unfair! No freedom of choice……….
Tau: you will be assigned a job and caste at birth and we will give you every opportunity to succeed also you can have a family real food and high quality medical care. You also get vacation time!
Imperium: You were born on the lower levels you say? Well you (and about a billion others) will work in the factory for 18 hours a day sleep in a hovel and eat just enough pink “Food” paste to keep you alive to the ripe old age of 29! Medical care? We offer free lobotomies to those who wish to join our “servitor enhancement program”
I loved this - it’s all about aesthetics- in between reloading and emptying your gun 😂
Difference between AI in man and Tau empires is that Tau never unshackle their AI. Humans were dumb enough to do that.
The lack of Grimdark is exactly why i like Tau. Who needs to be depressed all the time? Have a little fun
*IF* the Tau are on the level, and not hiding some kind of horrific, appalling secret, they then could play a pivotal role in the Imperium, finally both making headway against the Tyrannid, Ork and Chaos threats, but also greatly slowing down, or even reversing its slide into the Abyss.
So, with that being said, why many (most?) 40k players hate them should become blatantly obvious.
I feel my yellow fever flaring up
If someone appreciates the golden age history of other settings but can't appreciate one setting that is still in that golden age then they just don't appreciate proper story telling. You can't have all factions at the same place historically, that would just be plain and boring.
I love how some indictments of the T'au are that they 'don't look like the other factions'. Not the ideology, lore, or characters but the fact they look too 'futuristic' or 'sci-fi' in an explicitly futuristic sci-fi setting.
Although imagine if they worked with the imperium and help fix each other's problems and weaknesses they would be unstoppable almost😅
Heretic reported.
@@hunterchristian8372 Where's the lie 😅... Also the imperium bends the rules all the time when convenient so I'm not entirely wrong 🤓
@@dankdaze42069 This is maximum heresy. Inquisitors are already otw. Please stay put.
You have been slated for laborer servitorship. Enjoy your days as a citizen of the imperium.
Um, he's with the Ordo Xenos, so he's been sanctioned by the Inquisition's higher ups (and musings that howl of heresy are just another day at the office with the Ordo Xenos).@@hunterchristian8372
I actually loved this video!
"Hot Fuzz" has rooted that term solid!
Is it possible the Tau might suffer another “Man of Iron” Or Was trick using warp corrupt techs?
Considering the cruelty of the Imperium, faultiness of the humanity and filthiness of other rivals, these Tau guys sound to be the best choice, actually too much to believe....
They're not nice if they your planet is in their next expansion zone and you don't want to join their empire.
A large amount of hate towards the Tau race also came about back in the day with a tactic using the devilfish transport, where you would position two devilfish tips end to end to form a V shape and have a bunch of your powerful range units sitting in the center. They were classed as skimmers and at the time hitting one in close combat was very hard and they were large enough that trying to get into melee with their powerful ranged units was far too hard to do. It was so bad that I believe the rules got changed really quickly to fix this broken strat, but it soured a lot of players view of the race and people who played them, which then became a bit of a meme to hate the faction as a whole.
For the algorhytm! Also nice content keep the long videos coming i am gonna consume em all
Now I want to add a bunch of Tau armed with Necron dakka to the Sho'vit Coalition!
I like some of the fluff I've heard or read that leads some to believe the good guy image of the Tau maybe a phony image
I love this faction but just for fun and for grimdark. In a universe of manipulation and diplomacy style war could there be a dark truth or agenda being hidden and thus loving approach is a way to worm their way in to bring comfort to its people before hitting the kill switch kind of like specific tyranids/chaos gods
Compared to the other empires. So long as you don't try to rebel the tau would be a overall good place to live. Especially if your part of the castes doing the farming, science, and engineers. Your life would be pretty peaceful.
I adore the Tau Empire. Аnd in my opinion, the fact that they don't fit into the overall Warhammer aesthetic is what makes them so unique and attractive.
now compare those disadvantages in the living condidtion to any of the other fractions. I would choose TAU every time.
It's a Faction. No 'R'
Only 3 minutes in, and I'm already getting the idea that people hate the tau bc they haven't fucked everything up in their golden age.
A Tau stole my wallet
For the greater good of the economy
I love Tau...better than anybody
There are many things I like about the Tau.
1 - they know how their technology works
2 - They are making their history
3 - Their education. This might sound weird but a well educated society is something I like.
What I do not like about the Tau.
1 - They are a hive of ants. Each individual is built for a specific role and they are dissuaded from moving out of said role.
2 - they think "The greater good" is the best thing in the universe.
3 - they are innocent
I personally think the Tau is the logical evolution for any species to survive in a reality where the Warp exists. If there is a nightmareish dimension where the demons can find you simply because you have a soul. Having a soul with very little presence in the warp is a good way to slip past the demon's notice. The Warp is the cause of many problems and the Tau have an innate survival mechanism that allows them to be ignored by the denseness of the warp.
This also explains why Demons and the like are legends.
Guardsmen forward for the Emperor
Commie space smurphs whats not to like
Exactly
Yes finally a TAU 1h video ❤
Tau are the good guys. Most of the bad stuff is justified because of the grim darkness war they live in
I’d say the dark stuff they do are things governments today already do, if you compare them to the imperium it’s night and day.
No thanks I'll pass on galactic ccp with a dash of unit 731. The Emperor protects
@@hardcoreholman303 “no thanks I don’t want ur ccp I prefer my high born aristocracy capitalist hellscape”
What little that doesn't fit is just that... it doesn't feel like it fits.
Bad attempts to try and make it grim dark for the sake of it.
Classic communist response. 😔
The Boys are the only good guys.
Conflict is inevitable and eternal so embracing conflict with a joyous heart is to say "Yes" to eternity.
❤
War is life.
I thought that the 'Nids were already weary about the T'au.
But i still dont Know if El Che Gue'vesa is real or not
Basically the China of W40k
The Tau are a little weak book wise, being somewhat boring, but in GAME? They're the ones who are not demon-aware much and gets to fall from their "what humanity could have been" level of unity and prosperity.
Nothing made our playing more fun, frankly, than the Tau falling like noobs. (-;
Don’t get why people don’t like the tau when their propaganda is a smoke screen I guess you could say. Once you pass the smoke man it gets a bit dark.
Decent vid and deep dive
Remake fire warrior 😭
lmao nigiri had me in stitches
Wow Tau for now, but how? Find out now
Tau ìs the best I think
Tau literally restribute sex, imagine having a goverment assigned wife lmao.
Eh, rather that than being flayed alive for not worshipping fervently enough and burning babies with albinism because of religious hatred against mutation.
Like arranged marriages… who would ever do that… oh wait.
Sounds amazing actually. Ill take 5.
Love your videos.
Never played the Tabeltop so no comment on that perspective, but coming from my knowledge from video games and the few books I've read I genuinely can't see why they are as hated as they are, "They don't fit in because they are good" Yeah and I suppose the 1st Eldar, Humans and even the Necrons started off being evil galactic dickheads when they 1st ventured out into space (you need to have had a golden age to fall from it) which leads to my next point "they don't fit because they didn't fall from a golden age" Time didn't stop in the 40k universe, it may feel that way because tech doesn't seem to evolve, but each faction has very specific reasons for their lack of innovation, but due to time still being a thing that exists new civilizations are bound to pop up from time to time, the Tau are in the rising phase of their civilization which is preceding their eventual golden age and their inevitable fall from that golden age
Even though the Tau are far from my favorite faction in the setting in my mind they fit perfectly within it as a new upstart civilization taking it's 1st steps in a hostile galaxy
Horus Heresy: empire Tau 42k The Greater Good!!(Starwars old republic)
Lionel Heresy: Tau EMPIRE COMBINE (Half life Alyx) xd
It feels like you put in Tau propaganda in the middle of this video lol
Better then Imperium propaganda.
Join the greater good, comrade
All im saying is if the Tau rediscover AI, they will pwn the universe, the warp, and the web way within a century.
Lol no
Yay already have AI…
@@bobh9492, I think he is talking about the Men of Iron which is an stupid Idea because those AI are insane because they are having failed coding which forced them to destroy Chaos and maybe those guys see those Fish Boyz as drinking straw of Chaos so they will chop chop bang bang them.
More deep dives ❤
Euther way, the tau need a serious power boost or for a power vaccuum to happen or theyll never reach their fullest potential
Would a space marine renegade chapter ever join the Tao?
I would love to see more stuff about renegade chapters in general. It's definitely difficult to break imperial conditioning but ultimately I think it has the potential to be an interesting story so maybe one day we'll see it :)
The key word there was renegade.
Renegades going against the order of things, that is the point.
I, personally, dislike the 'imperium choir boys' when they try to claim that a Space Marine wouldn't defect to the Tau. They want their chosen faction to be pure, angelic, and the very idea that they might still have some 'humanity' left in them is just... well, fanboys just can't stomach the idea of their faction being anything less then divine. Falling to Chaos is allowed, that is still religious after all, but falling to... human empathy... heaven forbid!
It is the Empirical Cult for a reason.
@@lostbutfreesoul I could see a renegade chapter joining Tao just for supplies and ammunition. Mutual survival.
Renegade Space Marine: You mean my Plasma won't overheat and kill my troops anymore?
Tau: Yes
Renegade Space Marine: I love Plasma sign me up :P
The Greater Good is interesting to me, however... what is it?
In other series, such as the Culture by Ian M. Banks, this concept is better explored. There is a group of powerful A.I. that have calculated a numerical value for 'happiness' and decided it will be their guiding force. This use of math to justify... anything... doesn't make them the good guys but it does make them so admirable that people forget they are not the good guys.
Tau feel a shallow version of that, but I see where it could go.
As for the mystery of the Ethereal though:
I view them as the survivor of a previous empire, trying to rebuild without revealing whom they really are. Not saying they are a major player from the past though, so many names have come and gone with little depth to them and it is better if they where one such name. It makes them a little more tragic, they have tried the greater good before, again and again.
The entire idea is based off mills theory of utilitarian value. Although it might seem logical it has it's paradoxes mainly in perspective. For example if we had to kill a thousand people to save ten thousand we might consider by numbers that it is the greatest good. However that is entirely dependent on how you view the individual capabilities and potential of each individual or rather that you don't. In effect there may be individuals within that first thousand that have capabilities far exceeding the other ten thousand. And they may by causation survive otherwise if left alone and bring about greater or multiplying benefits. It might not be savory for people to consider one life being more valuable than another. But in the scheme of achieving results it is whether it be used for whatever perspective purposes.
@@fireteamomega2343, I think they're Greater Good origin is from they're Goddess Tau"va which I imagine those Etherial guys are just cult to this Chaos God and this Chaos God indoctrinated them and give them knowledge and when those Fish Boyz unite they're people, they just forget this Chaos Goddess and that Chaos Goddess didn't show up until it shows up to Shadowsun.
Ask yourself if you're a race who just begone to explore the galaxy who would rather be your first contact? Tau all the way
Question: shouldn’t GW change the lore of the Tau Empire? I mean this noise about a Water Caste and Fire Caste is lame homies! We need a Big Jubblies Caste, a Huge Booty Caste, etc.!!!
Hold on Commissar, this guy's on to something. Let's hear him out.
@@oysterscrollswhat do we waiting for, comrade? call the inquisitions as i already smell some heresy in his word
25:41 your already grasping at straws all necron tech self destructs when in enemy hands.
Except it doesn’t. Read any Cawl book or the one where he’s using scarabs and talking to a captured necron.
My source is I made it the fuck up.
For "You're" greater good.
The anime communists aliens aren't the good guys. The Interex are the good guys.
I wish to dissect tau animal praise the omnissiah
HERESY INTENSIFIES
I kind of doubt the Tau would be able to reverse engineer Necron tech. With how advanced the necrons are it feels like the scientific principles their stuff is built on are just too complex and esoteric for a new race to just learn them.
Not just that lore wise it states necron tech self destructs if it can’t phase out. I highly doubt even a fringe world wouldn’t have some self destruct sequence.
Except Cawl can and has… reverse engineered necron tech.
How Tau conquer and win the Galaxy is simple ... they wipe out all the baddies 🤣
no seriously once they have wiped out The Imperium and converted any smart enough to be on the winning side, Chaos will cease to be and they'll probably weaponise the Orks similar to the Kroot and then they'll start dealing with any Eldar or Tyranids that show up. I feel like Necrons are the last boss as they are O.P asf!
"While the tau empire struggle to make their players feel like they are part of a grander history" This right here is the exact problem with tau, they do NOT fit in to the warhammer universe, they never did and they were made purely for the people whining about how "everything is so nasty, its all dark, i want shiney things, i want peaceful I WANT A BUNCH OF EXPENSIVE GUNDAMS I LIKE ANIME WAAAAAH!" and so, the tau were created lol They still feel like a tumor on the franchise to this day and like they were pulled from ANOTHER table top.
People want to be unfair. 0:31
Godemperorless space comunists😂
nice
The tau: space commies waiting to be eaten by nids
Not to make it all political but there is also the issue of them basically being space Commies. That in and of itself is going to turn off a chunk or the player base, especially in the US.
In the age of information, these people can just read some communist writings, (I'd recommend starting with "What is to be done" by Lenin) that will solve the issues
Tau already have the most advanced weapons and fire power. The problem is just their numbers and naive generosity toward every single race hell even the necrons they tried to extend peace to lol. They actually almost reached light speed. But they're still working on it unfortunately. And currently they actually do hold stalemate against most imperium forces currently because they are smarter with their resources and gear. Plus not to mention they're way better at utilizing allies and tactics. Where as the imperium just throws numbers at everything until something sticks. Tau don't do that because they realize how useless that method is. Plus eldari actually needed to ally with Tau because the Tau actually hold their own against tyranids. Not a crushing victory but hey the fact they can hold their own to begin with lmfao. Also mech suits give astartes a run for their money every time guaranteed. Dreadnought also get clowned on by current x model suits.
A bigger Offff moment was when they tried diplomacy with the Dark Eldar...
@@sebastijanglozinic8630 yea they were willing to take the chance. But they've learned from their mistakes since then. Those dark eldar masochists honestly hate everyone that ain't them even then they probably hate themselves too lmao
They will learn to be xenophobic once they get more experience. Their naivety will either wear off or they will.
@@vgamedude9811 nah it's not their motto. They've been this determined for years. They are horrified by how the imperium treat their own would never stoop to that level
@MiiMagus93 nah they might not treat tau that badly, at least not in the relative near future, but other species? They are gonna learn.
No lies where told about that tig bitty Tau propaganda
Why are you saying "we" 😂😂😂 are you guys tau?
I noticed that too lol
So basically the tau empire is a galactic Chinese communist party 😅
It's very important to add to the massive propaganda speel... that's what they say and promise.but much like the USSR ideals/propaganda. There is all chances that the reality of Tau is a lot more grim than they want it to look
the tau are written like they aren't facing any hardships and always find the best way to fix everything very idealized concepts but hardly any downsides, it seems a bit unrealistic to be honest
The down side is existing in a universe that will beat them....
Hope is needed in a proper grim dark universe, so you can crush it.
no government appointed gf why live?
How do the Tau handle the fact that if the are actually successful in annexing human worlds they will quickly be a minority in their own empire.
Adopt human traditions like genocide?
@@comentedonakeyboard😂
Like every empire do well, inclusive or not.
Not if they spike the water making humans breed slower ….
They vote for Etherial T'rump.
He promised to build a great wall to keep the humans out.
Just wait until you hear what the tau do to their own species if an individual has intimate relations with an individual from another member species. You won't though, because that doesn't fit the narative of the etherials or GW.
Serious re-education! How serious...?
We are not allowed to know.
if you like the Tau I feel like you are on the same level as furries, can’t convince me otherwise.
Btw I feel like GW might have the Tau in the setting as a way to have a real time fall of Rome type civilization, like all the other races already had their fall, but the Tau haven’t yet, which could happen by a Shadowsun Heresy with the new goddess. It would make them closer to the covenant from halo, which would be way better tbh.
Tau empire is like a rich kid moving into a trailer park and pretending he knows how to fix everything because he never actually had to try for anything.
When tf do rich kids move into trailer parks
As a queer woman the idea that I could just be assigned to a man is probably the most horrifying side of the Tao.
And that is the hazard of the Greater Good (and communism) it’s all good til it’s not good for you personally. Ironically the virtue of “taking one for the team” is outside it.
So the ppl who hate Tau are just assholes... Cool. Check.
So, communism?
I am in, 🎉🎉🎉
There really is no "Good" faction in Warhammer, just the least awful based on your personal phylosophy.
I could argue the tyranids are actually a degree of “good” because they’re just fulfilling their natural mandate and doing their job. It’s at least better than everyone else.
@20:00 sounds like china's propaganda.
WAAAGGHH is making fun of the way Brits speak, it's just the word War drawn out as a battle cry. Meaning you don't pronounce the G's or H's. It's just WWAAAAAA!!!!
Japan