Mechanics of Mysticism - Rabbi Wolpe in Conversation with Sadhguru
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- Rabbi David Wolpe, named the most influential rabbi in America by Newsweek Magazine, engages Sadhguru in a conversation on the Mechanics of Mysticism. The conversation took place on April 3, 2019 at the Writers Guild Theater in Beverly Hills.
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Bravo- now that I have this on tape so i might pass it on to my children so the next generation will be better, have better quality of life. Always. Respect ✨🎼🤟🏽✌🏼🙏🏻✨🎼
great idea
The Rabbi is really a humble, cool, and a really funny man
Because we are in America & you must take something away. 😂😂😂💀💀💀.. Sadhguru is a comic genius!!
Sadguru's every sentence can be made a quote. So profound.
I had a great laugh Mr Sadghuru, much knowledge and much much love for the rabbi for trying to understand .. hahahaha ..
much love from the Netherlands, Reza Chandoe
A very deeply wonderful conversation. Sadhguru was very deep as always but the rabbi was very deep too. He pointed out very meaningful things to balance Sadhguru sometime complicated answers. A very precious conversation showing very good people talking. This exchange is a piece of art in the history of exchanges and I have to admit that our actual world is blessed just because we have people like Sadhguru, Eckhart Tolle and humble being like this rabbi.
Yes he is love this man. Sadhguru, amen, nameste
Love both of them in this conversation....hope they will make more in the future....
I can hear him all day long..🙏
Try sarvpriyanananda ji
M Tibetan
My Mom prays every morning
uttering" may all living beings free from pain and suffering
May his holliness D.L live longer." Thats all
Compassionate to be belonging to this 5% minority
Thank u
In understanding this conversation needs emptiness not fullness.If we are full there is no space anymore.
That is why the cup needs to be emptied :)
I found this meaning and tried my best to explain:
Jananam Sukhadam Maranam Karunam Milanam Madhuram Smaranam Karunam
Kalavashadihi Sakalam Karunam Samyadhipateh Akhilam Karunam
Jananam : Birth(is)
Sukhadam: Joyful
Maranam: Death(is)
Karunam:Compassion
Milanam: to meet(is)
Madhuram: sweet/pleasant
Smaranam: to remember(is)
Karunam: Compassion
Kalavashadihi=kalavash + dihi: death/sorrow + during(is)
Sakalam: All/everything(Living/Non Living)(is)
Karunam: Compassion
Samyadhipateh=Samay + adhipateh: time + Lord/King/Father (Chronos (Greek God of time))
Akhilam: End(is)
Karunam:Compassion
Birth is joyous, death is compassion
To meet is sweet, to remember is compassion
In the inevitable flow of time everything turns into compassion
In the kingdom of the lord of time, the end is compassion
such eloquence, such knowledge. Amazing! Jai Gurudev!
The Rabbi is quite incorrect...there are a number of thousands of Jews in India and have been for many many Centuries..
He just means that there are many many more indians than jews in India
The rabbi just said it rhetorically.
Did it helped them to be a Jew to end suffering for themselves?
@@madallas_mons those jews are Indians first, initial scietofic progress of India was because them. Ecen today when they feel longing and connection such things are uncommon elsewhere.
@Madallas Mons well those Jews are also Indians.
They consider India as their motherland and Israel as their fatherland.
Don't think they are Israeli living in India. They are Indian. Just like you won't call Muslims living in India as Arab, Jews living in India aren't Israeli.
Let us dump hatred and embrace love. Our lives will be happier and more peaceful.
Sadhguru has a beautiful mind
Wonderful conversation
This is more of music and meditation ❤
I think you could have a brilliant conversation with Rav Doniel Katz. No disrespect to this rabbi, but i think there are some other rabbis much more equiped with deep conversation esp in the mystical and spiritual. (I am a Torah observant jew so i am also speaking from experience). Another is Rabbi Dov Ber Cohen. And also Rabbi Akiva Tatz. Make it happen! It'll be very interesting. Rabbi Akiva Tatz has a book titled Letters to a Buddhist Jew. Rabbi Dov Ber had a long 5 to 7 year pilgramage through asia and india, trained with monks, etc. (,his book is called Mastering Life) But much respect to this rabbi and his outstanding humility. Same to Sadhguru
Thanks 👍
Sadhguru
42:47 great story
Himduism is not a religion ,, its a true being wat universe are up to
Seems like the Rabbi has a hard time understanding or receiving new teaching.
ive had no concern since last 6 years and m always trying to know smng
Sadhguru is actually only 1 year older then Rabbi Wolpe.
39:38 that sophisticated sadghuru ego coming to life.
This is Jupiter ( Sandguru) Saturn (Rabbi) conjunction!
But the Rabbi questions are honest
@1:00:00 that is some poor lying.(when the host said he knew who Ramanujan was.)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srinivasa_Ramanujan#Personality_and_spiritual_life
It's nowhere close to a lie.
@@srijithsai you misunderstood bro, I was referring to the host, when he said he knew who Ramanujan was.
You should be more specific. :)
@@RamanSharma89 I edited it bro.
Wat did the host lie about ?
Very enlightening conversation. But as Rabbi suggest, I do feel sometimes Sadguru tries to overplay it and I see there is a desire (or in his own words, compulsiveness) to see things differently and to contradict others views. For eg, that "uneducation" part is totally baseless. It is going nowhere. I mean, a child is uneducated for sure and more lively. But one dont need to be uneducated to be more lively as he suggest. A child's liveliness dont come from his "lack of education" but his ignorance and incapability of understanding things. But A child is 100 times more dependent on others for his needs than an adult. So he is more "lively" because his fundamental needs are taken care by others. But human beings aspire to be blissful with knowledge not with lack of it. Thats what Hindu dharma talks about. Thats what our sages did. Our sages are great not because they are poor in intellect but because they experienced things that are beyond intellectualism or "ultimate truth".
U Made something simple totally irrational and complex haha unlearn to learn
Ignorance of a child? Hahaha please look again to this conversation and correct your “believe”
There is difference between "Being learned" and "Being educated". If you could understand the difference between these 2 concepts, you would be able to understand what did Sadhguru meant by saying "Don't educate anything to the child".
if you listen simply you will notice Sadhguru never says survival process is not needed. During childhood the survival is taken care of by familly. Then child acquires survival skill partly by going to school. The rest is beyond survival and largely about life.
by saying uneducated he means he is not tangled to anything ,not identify with anything
Guru is a great dresser...must have a huge en suite to accommodate all that clothing.
It's so funny to witness these people and even the Rabbi frantically trying to trap Sadhguru's insights and answers into their own interpretations and then miserably failing to do so. Hinduism is boundless and advocates the same. There is nothing to teach and so you would rarely find a true Hindu trying to disseminate the 'so called word of the ultimate supreme someone'. Also the reason why Hinduism isn't keen at all on conversions as the other revealed religions of the world are. It is sad to see people reduce Hinduism to a religion!
Exactly what i am thinking as i listen!!! Thanks for putting it into concise words.
The method Jewish people traditionally access mystical aspects of life is through intellect means. There is a rich world of spirituality that is simple and that is self evident. However the methodology that is used specifically for Chabad is to intellectually understand them so they are translatable to others in every aspect of life. Most people aren’t having a spiritual dialogue everyday, or even consciously recognize this dimension of life. So the goal is that this dimension is revealed even for them from the get go so there are less spiritual hurdles and future generations can reach higher pursuits more easily. It’s the same goal as sahdguru just different practical methods.
Yeah,took me a while to understand that spirituality is not religion but tend to form around spiritual people.
He is not preaching Hinduism.
He is just talking spirituality.
Religion and Spirituality are opposite.
@@direnbhatsavesoil9628 And Hinduism is not a religion so what are you trying to say ?
P.S. Please take the time to delve a little deeper into Hinduism. I have taken them synonymous because … You know what I leave it here for you to discover! Good luck!
They are testing my mystic powers.!! Ultimate joke!!
And I don't care if Mary has a lamb 😂
Sg uses a smart technique to make the listener feel stupid.
So that he makes sadhguru his guru.
Pure manipulation.
I've seen this repeatedly.
He'll first disagree with whatever you say. Very subtly.
And then say the EXACT same thing but in a different way using different words.
And the listener will feel "ya ya that's right.. Woah! How wise he is! I need a guru like him to show me the way! ".
But thats just a trick to enslave you into life long free slavery(read: volunteering).
I’m a volunteer. From California in California.
I don’t feel enslave.
I’m actually adjusting my lifestyle so I can volunteer.
With or with Sadhguru.
I like the atmosphere.
I'm Jewish and the so called Rabbi is empty man with zero wisdom. We have such wise Rabbis that don't go on social media but the knowledge wisdom and intelegence they posses is not out there for show. Sorry that is an observation from my life long exposure to Judaism.
Jews mean loads to Indians ....
India helped Jews in the time of crisis and so did Jews ....
Nobody's lesser or greater it's about elevating ourselves as a better human being ....
Respects to a Jewish Brother.
Pranams
He is just seeking like many others despite of how he is labeled. No one would judge or being angry at a sapling that it is not an oak already, so shouldn't anyone ill guess.
Jews are blessing on planet earth
I don't about preachers but i know Israel is Jewish country, as far I've seen I luv their culture
Yes your right as a Jew i can say this rabbi doesn’t represented Judaism he even denied the exodus.
Omg, this sadhguru is so tiering to listen to......the jewsh rabi is rather more clear in how he delivers his message. Sadhguru is utter crap..just vomit pompous words , and go round and round without making a point.
I wonder if both of them combined would have been enough against Christopher Hitchens.
Christopher Hitchens crumbles when faced with actual eastern methods.
His semantic arguments seem convincing but he was a miserable being who died from drinking and smoking.
Being smart is one thing...being intelligent enough to deal with life without relying on crutches that end your life early is something else.
@@yew2oob954 Hitch was more erudite and trenchant than both of these charlatans combined.
For instance, he never preached about magnets being able to attract blood something spoken by this Guru.
Now I understand that an overwhelming majority of people are credulous and are prone to being fooled, and I hope you're not one of them.
P.S. There were No cogent arguments from the Religious whackos that he 'crumbled" infront of.
Be well.
@@bladerize Hitchens lost not arguments but the application of intelligence. Hitchens acted like he had all the answers by criticizing but in reality found solace in cigarettes and whiskey which contributed to his early demise.
Seriously, at the end of all of it what good did Hitchens do except to give some atheists the momentary feeling of glee when he "Hitch slapped" someone.
He criticized Mother Teresa but did he do more for the poor?
If you feel that Sadhguru is a charlatan did Hitch do more for rivers?
It's fine to hero-worship a person who is a master debater but when you get off on only semantic arguments and not actions then you are just a jerk off...or masturbator of your own self-perceived brilliance.
@@yew2oob954 Quite a display of snobbish sophistry and ad hominems there. But well, that's what religious people too.
It's hilarious when Religious/those who believe in fairy tales speak of facts.
I happen to from the city where mother Teresa worked and we knew how she ran her faith based charity. Also when she was opposed to abortion.
I don't 'feel' sadguru is a charlatan, I Know it.
Few facts for followers of Guru like you:
Pure mercury does Not solidify in room temperature.
Blood cannot be attracted by powerful magnets.
Astrology is just as pathetic and bogus like mysticism.
There is nothing called "sexual memory" that can be stored in cells.
Telepathy does Not work.
P.S. What Hitch and others do Not do is rip people off by selling them false Hope.
"Extraordinary claims require Extraordinary Evidence." - Carl Sagan.
But yeah, maybe your guru is right and the entire scientific community is in error.
Now judging by your strawman comments, you'll resort to ad hominems agains.
May you bask in your delusions!
Goodbye.👍🏻
@@bladerize Ad hominems...where? Please look up the meaning of words before you use them. Re-read our exchange and realize that it is you that has resorted to ad hominem attacks.
How sad. You have displayed your Hitchens learning and as expected it sounds good and has little meaning.
One (Shri. Rabbi), is with all humbleness with life experiences and another (Shri. Jagadeesh Vasudev), is with the inferiority complex, so always cunningly trying to exhibit his superiority... the self-boosting... as usual...
In one of his earlier talks, he mentioned Yasoda's, 'mother's love towards Krishna' changed as a 'Gopika' love and got jealous of another 'Gopika' Radha... Unknowingly he projects his own culture in that story...
But anyway, in his shameful, superiority complex showmanship story version of his mother 'touching his feet' ('a papa karma'), his mother got lucky that he didn't mention her as a Gopika. In that way, we are lucky too...
"Even if I (Shri. Jagadeesh Vasudev himself calls 'Sadhguru' without understanding the meaning of it) make you the king of this Planet"! Even in these words, he tries to put himself in the superior to hide his inferiority complex and guilt...
One businessman, started considering his 'Path maker' a Sadhu/Thuravi/Sanyaasi, as his God and the Giver of all his business upliftment and other positive things that happened to him...
One day the 'Path maker' told him that he wanted to meet him... This businessman went to him with all sorts of offerings...
But the 'Path maker' said to the businessman, you are considering me like the God who gave all this wealth to you... Please don't do that because it is not true...
All your happenings are due to your Janma karma phalam/after effect of your deeds... I am a tool by the 'The Almighty' to inform certain truths, which you deserve due to your karma...
So, consider me as a 'Path maker' only... the reality...
Everyone desires to live a good life and be happy. Desire is healthy but it becomes destructive when one has an excessive desire for something...
Sometimes excessive desire morphs into obsession. When one is obsessed, they cannot stop doing something and they often lose control of their lives.
Desire is a disease. Desire means that right here and now you are not at ease, and something else in the future, if fulfilled, will bring you peace and happiness. This tension of the mind for the future is desire. Hence, whether fulfilled or not, every desire leads to suffering and misery...
When somebody tries to fulfill/achieve all the desires in one lifetime… naturally they will be in the pool of suffering and misery…
So, if somebody advises others ‘to have desires for all things… and achieve it’… means…
he/she is in that pool of suffering and misery… and out of guilty fear… trying to pull others in that pool… so he/she has more support from such like-minded people… to hide the guilt...
By doing this he/she feels like the ‘hero’ of such people… and has increased desires and fulfills it with ease…
When such people’s numbers increase, he/she can act as their 'God' of them… God of hidden guiltiness…
They will act as the embodiment of all so-called good things to hide their egoistic desires...
But unknowingly… it is an act of digging the hell for themselves… mind becomes a machine… needs oiling… and ends up with inner/internal engineering…
As an aftereffect… mother nature’s motherhood nature may change uncomfortable for livelihood, and humanity will suffer from this act…
Naturally, these acts end up in big disaster… This sort of people will call 'Karma Phalam' as 'nonsense' to hide...
If we really want Peace… we should get out of this destructive illusionistic way of living… the aftereffects/’Karma Phalam’… of egoistic desires…
And try to realize our desires like the Great Saints/Maha Rishis… of our Human race… and follow the uncomplicated way of living concerning all.
When we are in an equilibrium stage to listen to our inner voice, we can realize 'Karma Phalam/after effect of the doings'... Understanding 'Karma Phalam' is the Bodha/Realization. If anybody realizes it, then they will lead a simple life... Naturally, their actions will be in tune with Nature.
The pain of this humanity and nature happened due to the aftereffect of the uncontrolled desires of human beings...
In this world, everybody is on a level aware of the aftereffects of our excess desire… and is trying to overcome it…
But it is difficult due to the world of desires and struck in that…
So, the one who can realize the aftereffects of excess desires… and try to overcome it with an uncomplicated way of living without gimmicks and roaring... only can have the change from it… this vibration naturally will vibrate the one who came for that…
The great Path Makers of humanity say… nobody can’t change anybody without practicing it in their own life…
So, can try to change ourselves… with deep prayer and good doings with the Grace… the Mercy… And it may inspire others… Not by advertisement and paid media backing...
There are a lot of people with deep prayer, silently working for the upliftment of humanity and other beings…
While plucking a leaf, they used to think twice about whether it was necessary or not… They try to lead a simple life… This ‘pulse’ we must spread by implementing it in our own life…
The one who adopts this way of living… naturally their life will be in peace… in harmony with nature… the real yoga bhava…
In Maha Guru's name wish to happen good things…
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This socalled "Sadhguru" is very controversial in Southern part of India for his alleged illegal activities for his hypocrisy and landgrabbing and anti-environment gang leader or gangster as there is a tacit understanding between Sadhguru and the Hindu terrorist government in India currently in force through covert means.
May you comeout of your anxiety disorder !!!
@@artlab3075 May this "pseudo science" may first come out of his hunger for wine, women and wealth and then only he can save you from your anxiety ! Be God loving and not con-man loving.
@@artlab3075 Dont feed such peoples ego. They grow with attention.
Read about latest RTI information from tamil nadu government and forest department...there no violation happened in isha foundation
Not true