The history as told by Lee is completely different from the stories passed down and history researched by martial art historians. The style is called Zhu Jia Jiao 朱家教, literally Zhu Family Teaching, founded by Zhu Ya Nan朱亞南. Zhu A Nan was a famous Hakka teacher and his style is widespread among Hakka people in both Guangdong and Hong Kong. Geng De Hai耿德海 was from Beijing which was part of Zhili/Hebei. Hubei is a different province in the south.
Its funny I practice Shotokan karate but have always been fascinated by Wing Chug and Jeet Kune Do. Heck I have a big poster of Bruce Lee in my room. He is my childhood hero. Thank you Melissa I have enjoyed this video.
I wonder why part II is so much more popular than part I. I was interested to see Hakka people discussed. I looked in Wikipedia, it mentioned that half of the Politburo's central committee or something in the 1980's was Hakka people. I knew vaguely about different language groups in China, like Cantonese versus Mandarin. Let me suggest that Shaolin (Wiki has a good discussion of that under "Chinese Martial Arts") might teach us something here, even as a myth. A monastery is mostly silent, yes? Ethnicity usually refers to language. Why talk? Talking to yourself can really get you in trouble. But it's hard to stop. Part of stopping is getting control of your body. "Look, ma, I have a body!" The more you trust your body, the less you preach to yourself.
I HAVE TO FIND PT. 1 THIS IS WONDERFUL. Iknow of some of these styles and the praying mantis grand master and his son who has taken over the school. his kung fu is very good as well.
Part 1 is here as well. There was really so much material I could have done with another 10 minutes especially on the final sifu but it would have been too much to monopolise 3 shows for my story...
jaws 77 sorry, it was just a 2 part series although I had so much more video. It was painful for me to cut so much of it out. Easily could have made it longer.
🙁 ¡¡Qué pena no poder entender nada!!... De verdad me gustaría poder entenderles, pero yo no hablo inglés ni mucho menos algún idioma asiático... Ojalá hubiese estado con subtítulos, por lo menos. De todas formas, les envío mis respetuosos saludos y ojalá, para la próxima, se acuerden de los que vivimos en América latina.... Ojalá pudieran incluir subtítulos en español... Saludos.
I think Kung fu is the most useful art for self defense and for the mind it’s funny how people say that Kung fu sucks Even Kung fu has been around for 2000 years people had to use it for to fight in the war and if it didn’t work they would of stopped using Kung fu the reason you see Kung fu people losing because its watered down they don’t teach the right way If you find the right teacher it works mma comes out of no were and they say it’s the best they don’t see the truth.
THE MASTERS , ( CRY OUT FROM THE PAST ) , TO LET US KNOW , TRAINING IS MORE THAN , KEEPING IN ( SHAPE ) .!!!!! . IT IS ( THE ART OF SCIENCE , IN MARTIAL ARTS ) .!!!!!!! . TO BE ABLE , TO DEFEND YOURSELF AND FAMILY .!!!!!! . THAT INIT-SELF IS AN A GREAT ( ACCOMPLISHMENT .) 👍🙏🏾☯️🙏🏾😎.!!!!!!! ......THEN TEACH , OTHERS ☯️.!!!!!! ....THIS IS HOW WATER 💦 STARTS .!!!!!!! . “BE WATER MY FREND “ 😎.....AND NOTHING , IS IMPOSABLE 📚📖📚.!!!!!!! .
How many Mantis styles are there ? I just watched Ng Mu - Wing Chun on AHC, and they mentioned she developed a mantis style. Also, is there any truth that Ng Mui fought Fang Hsi Yu ? The movies have him as a cool guy but I read that she killed him in a fight. And last Bak Mei, just the opposite. The movies have him as a bad guy ( Mr.Lo Lieh, the best ), but the stories talks good things about him. Thanks.
🌏 Focusing on hands vs hands, it's for Chinese vs Chinese. What if they face other styles with other more combination of weapons like head, elbows, knees or many style of kickings? Finally, when you fight v.s many styles of martial arts you can't deny practicing in common boxings style.
No... Real kungfu masters fingers coulf penetrate the human body, break bean through fingers. Could jump high than the car I myself see how bloody fight he gave with four black belt guy
there used to have those international full contact competitions in taiwan, in the late 70's early 80's it was full contact and the small gloves with the holes for the fingers, kind of like the MMA style gloves but the ones they used to make back in those days. but after this one year where they had a lot of injured contestants they decided to add gloves similar to boxing gloves and also a set of rules. I think it was called the World Kuoshu Championship or something.
Ignorant guy, Sifu Sin Lum-yuk & others have fought in tournaments. Sifu Lei Tin-loi has been in the police. They were in the fighting situations and i guess ur qualification is very sloppy compared with them.
Ecniv Marng sorry my friend, this may have worked decades ago when you fight standing up. Most fights end up on the ground and this technique doesn’t have an answer to that. You have to be able to strike on your feet and grapple or know jiu jitsu to be both offensive and defensive in the ground,
I'm confused , so a grappler can learn striking , but it's suddenly "illegal" for a kung fu Guy to learn grappling? So you think a young Kung Fu practicioner who fits in a little Boxing and grappling here and there Still provide the same result? Smh
bruce lee was not great in hongkong , andi-Law and stephen-Chew were legally the greater amongst people arround hongkong and macau , that was the truth .
Sorry for my late reply, unfortunately there was no more time left in the show. I also felt bad because I would have liked more time for the final sifu featured in part 2
that's not the real question. what the hell is this, a comic book? The streets ain't sci-fi. MMA dudes can fight AND they are athletes. THIS, is a trained fighter, interested in preserving culture and history. If needed in a street-fight, these dudes will KICK YOUR ASS. To ask them to fight and win at a sport against someone TRAINED for that goddamn sport, and not the street is unfair.
u must be stupid, do even know what is MMA? its a Sport name. anyone with diffrent martial arts can participate. MMA is not a martial arts and MMA got rules on it. and u call it an actual fight? u fucking idiot
@ryukenb2k thanks for your comment. You're totally right. One thing that was clear from speaking to the sifus and Hing Chao is that these martial arts aren't about violence or beating up another person. It's about discipline and fighting is the last resort. And yes, it was used in the past to fight triads. As for MMA, as it's name implies it's a mix of many arts. Globalisation and easy travel have allowed for practitioners to pick up and blend other styles making for a potentially superior fighting style. So it's not really fair to compare an old style to a blended style. It would be a false equivalence. And this is about the history of martial arts here. Not whether these arts are superior or inferior to what we have now. These are different times.
You can find these kind of movements in any modern dance, break dancing Russian dance groups or acrobatic groups it looks good but this does not train one how to fight.People when will you get over it the way Chinese martial arts have been embarrassed on the world stage for the past forty years don’t you think someone would have step forward by now to save face.Is that not part of Kung fu traditions to test their Kung fu on stage what happened to all the beimo fights we heard about were are they that’s all i am saying were are the fighters.
And by the way Bruce Lee was not a master. He didn't learn all of wingchun. He studied other styles and incorporated it to his own which he entitled himself a master of his own character. He was still building his style but sadly he died before it was complete and then you had others who had learned from him incorporate what they felt what jkd was. Martial art is self expression. It's not always about fighting just like tai ji is food for the body and soul. You have both yin and yang.
You don't teach Wing Chun & Jeet Kune Do, to do so shows one's total lack of understanding of JKD while still being in bondage to Wing Chun. Bruce discovered the root of his ignorance and he walked away from Wing Chun. Styles are 'The Classical Mess'. This Wing Chun master is merely in love with the idea of JKD but, he is clinging to his years of Wing Chun practice like a babies comfort blanket in order to sooth his delusion. He needs to step out of his house and stay a few nights in a homeless shelter without his blanket to become liberated. LET IT GO! Matt 6:24, "No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon."
BL never completed Wing Chun and tried what he knew but not perfected and did not do well. Like any art or skill one have to have discipline and do diligent practice daily to master it. If gymnast had Bruce Lee attitude there would be no great ones. They practice their routines over and over again until they master it. That is what Kung Fu is about, the acquire high skill through hard work. Kung Fu=Hard work!
Aaah, the old "Bruce Lee never completed his wing chun training" bit; so what? please show me an example of anyone who has "completed" their wing chun training actually demonstrating that they can use their WC skills in a real fight with a skilled, uncooperative, aggressive opponent, I haven't seen any. I give BruceLee credit for at least seeing the limitations & weaknesses of his traditional training & the methods thereof, realizing there was much more to learn & experience outside the boundaries of his original style.
Da Gaffer and he then realized that his jkd was just a “junky kind of dross” compared to grappling like Judo! Enter, Gene Labelle. What works for one body type, may not work for another. That’s the philosophy of jkd. And now everyone just wants to make it into another martial arts system to follow. Lol. Maybe wing chin works great for some body types! Maybe boxing works for others, and Kenpo for yet another! Find what works for you.
Da Gaffer, your response was one big straw man argument. I agree not everyone can make it work, which is why I said “find what works for you.” Let me guess, reading comprehension wasn’t a strong subject for you in school, was it? It shows. I’d be careful, if I were you, when speaking of anyone’s intelligence until I got some myself. 😆
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Was lucky to meet Ip Sui several times in the 90's, what an awesome kung fu si-fu...respect
Looking at this in 2020..am amazed at his speed & skill, wish i could of met a master like him,
you was very lucky to meet him!!
@@profyle766 thank you, I feel lucky to have met all these masters :)
I moved to HK over 7 years ago to study Hung Kuen!
I hope you found a good sifu
The history as told by Lee is completely different from the stories passed down and history researched by martial art historians. The style is called Zhu Jia Jiao 朱家教, literally Zhu Family Teaching, founded by Zhu Ya Nan朱亞南. Zhu A Nan was a famous Hakka teacher and his style is widespread among Hakka people in both Guangdong and Hong Kong.
Geng De Hai耿德海 was from Beijing which was part of Zhili/Hebei. Hubei is a different province in the south.
Its funny I practice Shotokan karate but have always been fascinated by Wing Chug and Jeet Kune Do. Heck I have a big poster of Bruce Lee in my room. He is my childhood hero. Thank you Melissa I have enjoyed this video.
I'm glad you enjoyed it. It was an interesting story to do and I learned a lot myself. I was lucky to get to interview all these sifus
Karate is from kung fu, you will see so many similarities, especially the important one
Thank you, much enjoyed.
superb every gung fu student should see this
Every gung fu student should practice real martial arts lol
Very appreciative of the gungfu & the noble English they uttered.
The sound was Great
Fantastic series. Thank you 🙏
Thanks Kathryn :)
Great !
awesome history of the different styles thru out china..
Most vn monks were born in the snail days
Thanks for sharing! Have an awesome day!
Amazing video, thank you so much 🙏☯️
I wonder why part II is so much more popular than part I. I was interested to see Hakka people discussed. I looked in Wikipedia, it mentioned that half of the Politburo's central committee or something in the 1980's was Hakka people. I knew vaguely about different language groups in China, like Cantonese versus Mandarin. Let me suggest that Shaolin (Wiki has a good discussion of that under "Chinese Martial Arts") might teach us something here, even as a myth. A monastery is mostly silent, yes? Ethnicity usually refers to language. Why talk? Talking to yourself can really get you in trouble. But it's hard to stop. Part of stopping is getting control of your body. "Look, ma, I have a body!" The more you trust your body, the less you preach to yourself.
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I HAVE TO FIND PT. 1 THIS IS WONDERFUL. Iknow of some of these styles and the praying mantis grand master and his son who has taken over the school. his kung fu is very good as well.
Part 1 is here as well. There was really so much material I could have done with another 10 minutes especially on the final sifu but it would have been too much to monopolise 3 shows for my story...
And thank you for your kind comment :)
Is that it,isn't there a kung fu masters III.
really like the personal history of these sifu's and their style's.
jaws 77 sorry, it was just a 2 part series although I had so much more video. It was painful for me to cut so much of it out. Easily could have made it longer.
🌏 We fight the way you practice.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
🙁 ¡¡Qué pena no poder entender nada!!... De verdad me gustaría poder entenderles, pero yo no hablo inglés ni mucho menos algún idioma asiático...
Ojalá hubiese estado con subtítulos, por lo menos.
De todas formas, les envío mis respetuosos saludos y ojalá, para la próxima, se acuerden de los que vivimos en América latina.... Ojalá pudieran incluir subtítulos en español...
Saludos.
I think Kung fu is the most useful art for self defense and for the mind it’s funny how people say that Kung fu sucks Even Kung fu has been around for 2000 years people had to use it for to fight in the war and if it didn’t work they would of stopped using Kung fu the reason you see Kung fu people losing because its watered down they don’t teach the right way If you find the right teacher it works mma comes out of no were and they say it’s the best they don’t see the truth.
THE MASTERS , ( CRY OUT FROM THE PAST ) , TO LET US KNOW , TRAINING IS MORE THAN , KEEPING IN ( SHAPE ) .!!!!! . IT IS ( THE ART OF SCIENCE , IN MARTIAL ARTS ) .!!!!!!! . TO BE ABLE , TO DEFEND YOURSELF AND FAMILY .!!!!!! . THAT INIT-SELF IS AN A GREAT ( ACCOMPLISHMENT .) 👍🙏🏾☯️🙏🏾😎.!!!!!!! ......THEN TEACH , OTHERS ☯️.!!!!!! ....THIS IS HOW WATER 💦 STARTS .!!!!!!! . “BE WATER MY FREND “ 😎.....AND NOTHING , IS IMPOSABLE 📚📖📚.!!!!!!! .
Xie Xie. Good Masters
how is the taiji mantis series called ? 21:24
How many Mantis styles are there ? I just watched Ng Mu - Wing Chun on AHC, and they mentioned she developed a mantis style. Also, is there any truth that Ng Mui fought Fang Hsi Yu ? The movies have him as a cool guy but I read that she killed him in a fight. And last Bak Mei, just the opposite. The movies have him as a bad guy ( Mr.Lo Lieh, the best ), but the stories talks good things about him. Thanks.
☯️🥋👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾✊🏾
🌏 Focusing on hands vs hands, it's for Chinese vs Chinese. What if they face other styles with other more combination of weapons like head, elbows, knees or many style of kickings?
Finally, when you fight v.s many styles of martial arts you can't deny practicing in common boxings style.
No... Real kungfu masters fingers coulf penetrate the human body, break bean through fingers. Could jump high than the car
I myself see how bloody fight he gave with four black belt guy
nv know that he too is Ted Wong student, but he teach mostly wing chun hardly any JKD from him at least in this video.
There wasn't enough air time to ah more video of jkd which was really too bad. Could have done with another segment.
16:29 Gold Dig Films??? Golden Harvest?
Where is Ox hours point?
there used to have those international full contact competitions in taiwan, in the late 70's early 80's it was full contact and the small gloves with the holes for the fingers, kind of like the MMA style gloves but the ones they used to make back in those days. but after this one year where they had a lot of injured contestants they decided to add gloves similar to boxing gloves and also a set of rules. I think it was called the World Kuoshu Championship or something.
Need information to get to this master please
Li Tin Loi is the Hakka master who teaches Preying Mantis style.
有冇中文版?
For your own safety. Please don’t think that this practice can protect you in an attack or win in real a fight.
Sifus have been in real fights & in police. If u were there at their youth, u would ve been killed !
Ignorant guy, Sifu Sin Lum-yuk & others have fought in tournaments.
Sifu Lei Tin-loi has been in the police. They were in the fighting situations and i guess ur qualification is very sloppy compared with them.
Ecniv Marng sorry my friend, this may have worked decades ago when you fight standing up. Most fights end up on the ground and this technique doesn’t have an answer to that. You have to be able to strike on your feet and grapple or know jiu jitsu to be both offensive and defensive in the ground,
I'm confused , so a grappler can learn striking , but it's suddenly
"illegal" for a kung fu Guy to learn grappling?
So you think
a young Kung Fu practicioner who fits in a little Boxing and grappling here and there
Still provide the same result?
Smh
Those eyebrows though?
what s the name of this syle?
Which one?
Robin Thao you are so smart huh
@@fernandosalazar730 He's right dude this horse shit will get you killed.
where is the kung fu ?Just i looking thai boxing
I thought this is 2020....
Denisovans
How can you end a Hong Kong gung fu documentary without mentioning sifu Bruce Lee.
Great video. Thanks.
bruce lee was not great in hongkong , andi-Law and stephen-Chew were legally the greater amongst people arround hongkong and macau , that was the truth .
Sorry for my late reply, unfortunately there was no more time left in the show. I also felt bad because I would have liked more time for the final sifu featured in part 2
@@adminkenzie4928 What style did they practice?
great journalism; but the chinese pronunciation is, as we say in hokkien, jia-lat.
😂
Khmer Thai, this is real
It's not though....
It's called Praying Mantis, not Preying Mantis
I prefer bullshito
Melissa very beautiful
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Bring them in the Octagon ! The Ultimate test lab...
They would literally die. This stuff is more like yoga or dance than it is martial arts.
Don't be too arrogant
@@franciscoarmando2237 the octagon will level arrogance
Very nice dancing, they make good cheerleaders!
Go fuck yourself.
@@HUEnshiro_do_Norte He's right... This stuff is more like dancing or yoga than it is martial arts...
Insert TMA vs MMA videos and the former getting smashed.
I was born 2 years latter then this guy but i look 30 years younger lol hes already old
dang ya hai chao fu te zai
Show off...:-)
The real question is how many of them have fought a mma fighter
that's not the real question. what the hell is this, a comic book? The streets ain't sci-fi. MMA dudes can fight AND they are athletes. THIS, is a trained fighter, interested in preserving culture and history. If needed in a street-fight, these dudes will KICK YOUR ASS. To ask them to fight and win at a sport against someone TRAINED for that goddamn sport, and not the street is unfair.
u must be stupid, do even know what is MMA? its a Sport name. anyone with diffrent martial arts can participate. MMA is not a martial arts and MMA got rules on it. and u call it an actual fight? u fucking idiot
@@unknow7686 You're delusional dude. None of this horseshit works in real life lol
How many Kung Fu masters here can take on Xu Xiaodong and not getting beaten up in less than 2 minutes ? Just wondering.
Literally none of them.
Wenn Kung fu so good is why we cant see on ufc .. never
Should challenge MMA to prove its effectiveness.
@ryukenb2k thanks for your comment. You're totally right. One thing that was clear from speaking to the sifus and Hing Chao is that these martial arts aren't about violence or beating up another person. It's about discipline and fighting is the last resort. And yes, it was used in the past to fight triads. As for MMA, as it's name implies it's a mix of many arts. Globalisation and easy travel have allowed for practitioners to pick up and blend other styles making for a potentially superior fighting style. So it's not really fair to compare an old style to a blended style. It would be a false equivalence. And this is about the history of martial arts here. Not whether these arts are superior or inferior to what we have now. These are different times.
You can find these kind of movements in any modern dance, break dancing Russian dance groups or acrobatic groups it looks good but this does not train one how to fight.People when will you get over it the way Chinese martial arts have been embarrassed on the world stage for the past forty years don’t you think someone would have step forward by now to save face.Is that not part of Kung fu traditions to test their Kung fu on stage what happened to all the beimo fights we heard about were are they that’s all i am saying were are the fighters.
kung fu in china,come from china
And by the way Bruce Lee was not a master. He didn't learn all of wingchun. He studied other styles and incorporated it to his own which he entitled himself a master of his own character. He was still building his style but sadly he died before it was complete and then you had others who had learned from him incorporate what they felt what jkd was. Martial art is self expression. It's not always about fighting just like tai ji is food for the body and soul. You have both yin and yang.
wow...tighter, snake , monkey, dragon, kung Fu style...!!!..but the most dangerous is my mom..hahaha...
You don't teach Wing Chun & Jeet Kune Do, to do so shows one's total lack of understanding of JKD while still being in bondage to Wing Chun. Bruce discovered the root of his ignorance and he walked away from Wing Chun. Styles are 'The Classical Mess'. This Wing Chun master is merely in love with the idea of JKD but, he is clinging to his years of Wing Chun practice like a babies comfort blanket in order to sooth his delusion. He needs to step out of his house and stay a few nights in a homeless shelter without his blanket to become liberated. LET IT GO!
Matt 6:24,
"No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon."
BL never completed Wing Chun and tried what he knew but not perfected and did not do well. Like any art or skill one have to have discipline and do diligent practice daily to master it. If gymnast had Bruce Lee attitude there would be no great ones. They practice their routines over and over again until they master it. That is what Kung Fu is about, the acquire high skill through hard work. Kung Fu=Hard work!
Aaah, the old "Bruce Lee never completed his wing chun training" bit; so what? please show me an example of anyone who has "completed" their wing chun training actually demonstrating that they can use their WC skills in a real fight with a skilled, uncooperative, aggressive opponent, I haven't seen any. I give BruceLee credit for at least seeing the limitations & weaknesses of his traditional training & the methods thereof, realizing there was much more to learn & experience outside the boundaries of his original style.
Da Gaffer and he then realized that his jkd was just a “junky kind of dross” compared to grappling like Judo!
Enter, Gene Labelle.
What works for one body type, may not work for another. That’s the philosophy of jkd. And now everyone just wants to make it into another martial arts system to follow. Lol.
Maybe wing chin works great for some body types! Maybe boxing works for others, and Kenpo for yet another!
Find what works for you.
Da Gaffer, your response was one big straw man argument. I agree not everyone can make it work, which is why I said “find what works for you.”
Let me guess, reading comprehension wasn’t a strong subject for you in school, was it? It shows. I’d be careful, if I were you, when speaking of anyone’s intelligence until I got some myself. 😆
Da Gaffer no offense taken. It takes one to know one. ;)
And it’s “apologize”, not “I apologies.”
Dumdum.
hahaha, what a joke. the whole world have forgotten where the roots of martial arts came from and who brought it to china.