Wera Joker review
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- Опубликовано: 16 фев 2013
- The Wera Joker is a very well designed spanner that has a ratchet ring spanner at one end and a clever jaw at the open end. The open ended jaw can hole a nut captive, which is something that most spanners cannot do. These are a really handy set of spanners to have in your toolbox! Brought to you by www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/
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Very nice throughout and short review, I had no idea these existed. I really like the concept but rarely come by tasks that make these handy. I keep a single metric spanner set and some 4-way ring ratchet spanners. Some tape will hold nuts in place on the cheap, too.
I love clever designs like these, they are so awesome! Thank you for the video.
What superb spanners - Me thinks I might be investing in some of those!
Many thanks!
Cool! You can use both end on a 12-point bolt or lock nut.
I came across a few wera videos and they seem like really good engineering designs. Thanks for putting together this video
They make some really good stuff ;-)
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Thanks for review vid. Looks like a nice tool, but as said below, bit limited on sizes. Sods law, the size you want isn't in the set. Will keep checking to see if they expand the range.
Was so waiting for the demonstration of starting the nut (while stretching mind you) onto a thread while only using that wrench. Cannot see spending $99 USD on 4 wrenches for that purpose. Much better practical ways of starting a nut on a thread.
Good videos !! Straight talk no bs . Thanks . The videos you have put in here are very helpful. Cheers !!
You are welcome.
Thanks for the comment ;-)
Again, thanks for sharing this information. Greatly appreciated. Greetings from PR.
Seems that it is a standard kit, as it covers M6, M8, M10 and M12 bolt wrench sizes, so that explains why there is no 15 mm as it is not a standard size in the series.
You can tell they are high quality, much like the Bahco S4MRT ratchet spanners. If its only an occasional situation you need it for though I'd stick with a bit of masking tape over one side of the flats and let the nut stick to that just to get it started as you say :-)
+Roll Pro
Probably the better option. They would be better if they had an offset head and a lever to change direction.
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What will i do with my old set of spanners? They have a lifetime guarantee!
Interesting a ratchet ring with no offset makes it difficult to get your fingers under, however that is essential to this as you can not reverse the ratchet! If I may though suggest a convetional open ended spanner can be more versatile with imagination. I have used a sliver of card or thick paper folded to retain a nut and this also allows the spanner to be held at an angle to the axis of the bolt. Also less tools to carry. Cheers from John.
Not seen this idea before but I can see how useful they would be. Unusual they left out the 15mm though.
They are really good spanners. They now make a more comprehensive set, but they are expensive.
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Or you can hold the nut in a regular wrench with a strip of masking tape, which will hold it long enough to get the nut started and then tear loose. Much cheaper, *and* available for all wrench sizes. ;)
+Culturedropout Yes, you can do that ;-)
Wheel bearing grease works in a pinch also.
Trying to be clever just reveals your ignorance... pure bullshit from someone thats never used a spanner before !
Nice set, first time I saw a spanner like that. Good stuff.
+Rui Nunes
Thanks, they are expensive- but when doing some jobs they are really useful ;-)
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+Ultimate Handyman and also seem perfect for rounding nuts... don't forget to add a that ;-)
I needed one of this today in the morning, but with a little bit of tape I solved the problem.
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What was the problem and how did ye solve please?
Never tried to get a knot on a bolt
I don’t particularly like these for general use but the nut starting ability of the open end is invaluable in tight spaces, and at arms length. Usually works well on pipe fittings too. I have 2 double open ends...a10/13mm and a 17/19mm which fits probably 90% of the fasteners I deal with on fork lift trucks and plant. Even with only occasional use these were well worth the money for me.
Yes, these can be a life saver!
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@Bloodred Pyrate Just a personal thing, if you’re using them all day the ones you prefer the feel of are best! For the record my general use spanners/wrenches are Facom and Snap-on combinations. I bought these Wera ones specifically for the holding nuts feature, for fitting to confined spaces often at arms length. However something else that’s come up in use is my two (10/13 and 17/19mm cover 90% of what I do, so if I’m grabbing a few tools and going out into the yard to do something where I’m not sure what I need, these will definitely go with me.
great looking kit
When I was a mechanic 15mm wasn't used much, I think it's imperial equivalent is about 5/8th's.
The spanners we used most were 13mm, 17mm and 19mm.
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5/8ths spanner size is = 16mm not 15
Ultimate Handyman it's the same as a 19mm being substituted for a 3/4" I guess
Green Silver I thought 9/16th
The joker is the price! Bling for your tool box.
Good quality tools have always been pricey, look at snap-on and such, I don't know if these come with a lifetime guarantee like snap-on but the quality is probably up there.
Thinking of getting these or similar for boiler installation and repair work? The Sata ratcheting spanner look decent too. Anyone know about the quality of those?
I don't think these would be much good for use on boiler as most of the joints are unions.
These are good, but probably will not fit many nuts on boilers due to the size- ruclips.net/video/SCmI-rPOGXc/видео.html
there is no offset on the open end of the wrench so you can not get a full rotation like you can with a conventional 15 deg offset when you flip it. I dont get why that was not incorporated....
There is no lever on these to switch direction of the ratcheting mechanism, that's probably why they did not put an off set on them. They would be even more expensive if they had those features LOL
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stef morris - Notice the open end is 12 point and not just a straight 15 degree angled
"slot" like on a conventional wrench. This actually means there are more offsets available if needed.
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I've got the full set, I mainly use them because they're flat whereas almost every ratchet spanner has a 15 deg. offset.
I hardly ever use the open-end at all and if I do I find the fact that its a flat spanner works against the whole point of having the jaw design - It'll be in an obstructed space that's difficult to reach with fingers which almost always means its even harder to reach with a spanner.
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I've often said to the misses I need some modern looking spanners for all the modern looking nuts and bolts I have 🤦♂️
Not got the bling like snap on but feel and look quality and ratchet seems has good if not better than my new snap on stuff.time will tell.
These spanners have been a life saver for me when I use the open end to hold a nut in a difficult position.
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The special open end design most probably is to fit it a nut snagly and not pass thru it especially useful for threading in nylon locknut a long way.
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Beautifully made tools but any scenario that would be useful could be overcome by using a ratchet & socket?
No, a ratchet and socket cannot do what this spanner does, especially if you are trying to get a nut started on a bolt at arms length.
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why not just make it magnetic to hold the nut? rarely I get a copper or non steel nut these days.
Stainless steel nuts are common on some machines.
I have now stuck card to one side of my £3.99 13mm spanner so they don't fall out. Such a good idea.
what if you have it where the nut cant fall out and you trap it behind the plate when you tighten it ?
Lol
Didnt know these existed thx for the info!
Finally someone updates the hand wrench....Yayy!!
This is one of those things that you don't need to use every day, but occasionally you get stuck and this spanner pays for itself immediately ;-)
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Neat idea! I wouldn't have thought of that in a million years. Thank you for posting this well-shot, informative video.
They look very Handy where did you get them from and how much? BTW Brill Vid as usual.
just curious as to who actually uses a wrench to start a nut on a bolt
I do if I'm working on some jobs. There are some large ovens at work and you just can't reach the nut and the bolt at the same time without that extra few inches (unless someone is working with you).
Ultimate Handyman And that extra few inches is priceless
Try working on fork lift trucks! Where you can’t reach with your hand or have space to use a socket, these are great!
I use a small piece of tape to "hold the nut captive"... and didn't have to buy a new set of wrenches.
Wera have created a fix for a problem that didn't exist at least in the motor market,
what market are these targeted for??
+Aaron Tate
You would have to ask Wera.
I do use them occasionally at work, especially the end that holds the nut or bolt captive ;-)
+Ultimate Handyman my wife holds my nuts captive for me
+harry balsaq
Ha Ha ;-)
Can these be used on isolation valves and compression fittings in tight spaces? I struggle to use grips or wrenches. Thanks. Sarah
They could, but not the ratchet end, as you would not get it off when the nut is tight.
You might just be better off getting the correct sized open-ended spanners for each nut.
Something like this- fave.co/34FN3nb
Don't get the small flat versions though, they are crap- fave.co/38yp6PK
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You need a good set of Stilltons
Hi Ultimatehandyman and all other viewers,
Do anyone know weather you can use this ratchet on a nut with a cable coming out of it
Probably not, unless the other end of the cable is not connected to anything.
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Bought some - the special thing on the open end is genuinely useful in some, albeit limited, instances. (If you simply want to hold a nut you can do this with a normal spanner, whether on box or open end, or indeed socket: just put a small bit of tissue into that end to go around the nut). But you pay a lot of money for these tools; some of which is for the ratchet end, which I never use on these as they have far too much backdrag: so that on reasonably clean threads the ratchet is totally ineffective. Even on high qual ratchet spanners with little slop etc big backdrag is fairly common. I find Britool Hallmark are good - ie low bd - on this. RS Pro, too. (Whether they're exactly as ultimately strong as eg the Wera is besides the point: you're rarely using them to break a nut - you buy them for the ratcheting action..)
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10mm = 6 mm nut a/f nut size 13mm = 8mm nut size, 17mm = 10mm hex nut a/f size and 19 mm = 12 mm hex nut size.........this covers a lot on the metric range....for those out there these are A/F spanners which comes from our WW2 time american friends who stamped their spanners.....'Across the Flats' = A/F....dimension being the size across the two flats on a hex nut....great upload
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Can they do the old 1/2” and 3/4” nuts?
I don't think so.
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That’s a good idea but not fully work
You need to have a main wrench set jocker just for show or special time use .. ha
Yeah, these are kept for special occasions ;-)
17mm joker ty
On Amazon now in a bigger set available!!! Metric, from 8 to 19 Mil :)
i have one 11 parts set. wow. very good.
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interesting concept, but useless in the USA cause of the sizes. 14mm and 12mm are super common here. 17mm and 10mm are good, but I don't ever run into a situation where I would need that tool for those sizes. still awesome though.
for a 184.00 ill use a piece of black tape that runs .50 cent to 1.00 lol
BigDaddyVapes how’s that black tape doing for you? Lol
think these might have been a better buy over the draper expert open ended ratchet set, ah well.
Good review but I’ve had a set of these for a while now and you didn’t mention the fact that the ratchet end has a much tighter click ratio than most others and most ratchet spanner’s have about 80 ish clicks in a full revolution while the joker has over 100+ over a full revolution making it much better in tight spaces, still love the channel mate
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where we get this tool pocible in UAE abudhabi
+Jamshad appankara
I'm not sure sorry. Do you have access to ebay or Amazon, if you do you should be able to get them there!
Thank you...
Just use your fingers?
work in cars everyday, can't see these coming in handy for that... to be honest can't imagine any situation that this would be handy?
also looks like a very easy way to cross thread a bolt
I never use an open ended spanner to start a nut on a thread/bolt. I first screw it on by hand and then use the spanner to tighten it. Who actually tries to use an open ended spanner to start the nut on the thread? That's crazy. They do however LOOK like quality spanners, but looks can be deceiving.
A better YT video would have been to test two or three different spanners from different manufacturers to destruction. Then maybe one can gauge the actual strengths.
I think the nut does not give two shits of how you do it.
I had to slip a bolt up behind a pulley the other day, and I couldn't get my fingers or a ratchet in. I ended up balancing the bolt in the wrench and trying to thread it in. Had to have taken me 20 min to get the thread started. Wish I could afford wera now.
Your comment speaks volumes! You obviously dont use spanners very often
great video thank you, wera is a good brand
You are welcome.
Yes Wera are a very good brand.
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I have had these for a while, for the price I expected them to last a bit longer than they did. So far I have had two ratchets fail. Don't get me wrong they are good at replacing them but for the price they should be a bit more dependable. I would not recommend them for daily engineering use.
Sorry to hear they have not lasted 😱
You'd have to turn it to get the threads on, so basically this just places it on the threads.
Yes, when you get a bolt where your arms are at full stretch and can't hold the nut these are superb ;-)
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You can't reinvent the wheel,but you can reinvent the spanner. Great idea.
Nice one, thanks.
You are welcome
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i use mine alot
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bought the 10mm the open end is Usesles, Crap killed more nut heads than a cheap worn spanner
it´s not the tool that sucks, it´s the unqualified worker. every tool is just as good as the guy which operates it.
Eu quero!
how much for 4
It's about £60 for a set of 4-
fave.co/2kzMiUn
The whole point of using an "Open Ender" is to be ale to slide it over the nut. It's a ring spanner!
I'm not quite sure what point you are trying to make. This is a combination ratchet spanner, you can slide the open end over a nut or bolt if you like, but it can also hold it captive.
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kind of sounded like that guy from on that show River Monsters
Ha Ha, thanks for the comment ;-)
Was hoping that was going to be an open-ended ratchet end!
You can get them- ruclips.net/video/SCmI-rPOGXc/видео.html
I just put a piece of tape on one side of the open end.
Zachary Adams and save 50 quid.
In my opinion, Wera makes the best Screwdrivers for the Bucks :)
are you calling wrenches "spanner"?
They are called spanners in other countries ;-)
He is calling spanners spanners
+Ultimate Handyman But it a straight spanner! Worthless when working in tight areas with no room for your hand^^
Its useful in most areas though. It would be better with an off-set but then they would have to put a reversing lever on the spanner making it even more expensive!
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@@ultimatehandyman they really should have made it flexible, for the money especially.
oh, no. I hate SAE tools period. metric is what I use all the time until the very few bolts that need SAE. I agree with you 100% sometimes being american sux.
Quite clever but the head seems very fat so will be restrictive in use
They are really useful every now and again, I'm glad I have them in my toolbox!
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How much are these?
They are not cheap I'm afraid. The set of four is about £60
***** thanks i was expecting around that price but worth it they look good as do their sockets.
hinegd
Yes, Wera do make very good quality tools ;-)
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I'm afraid to say my experience of these spanners was not great at all and I sent mine straight back. 2 reasons,
1. the machining tolerances on the ratchet end are soo fine that I had much trouble getting the ring end on the bolt head in the first place. In some cases they just didnt fit at all!
Faulty batch? who knows. My halfords professional range had no such issues at all.
2. The open end is in parallel with the shaft of the spanner instead of a 30 degree angle, in which most spanners are designed.
This results in you only being able to fit the spanner on a nut every 60 degrees. Traditional spanners, you flip it over and you half that. So in very very tight spots the traditional open end spanner beats the wera straight open ended spanner every time.
These 2 flaws I found very quickly and resulted in a job not done, had to borrow someone elses to get out of the shit.
I do have faith in the new back plate idea, but In my opinion overall a poorly executed design.
Open ended spanners only ever round off nuts/bolts that a seized on, plus sometimes its impossible to get a ring spanner or a socket on them
puts não entendo nada de inglês!!!!
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Cool!
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use a magnet
Stainless steel is not magnetic and most fasteners are stainless.
Hi all. Replied to a few comments below, but just to let everyone know - thanks to popular demand, the JOKER range has now been expanded! We have now launched the fill-in metric sizes, additional set options (including an 8pc and 11pc set), as well as a range of the most popular imperial sizes. They were launched this month and will appear in UK stores any day now - for stockist advice you can call us direct on 01246 277756. Hope that helps!
Why dont you guys make a ratchet...and a break bar..in the same tool....ratchet in one end break bar in the other...i never seem that....think about it....a ratchet is not for bolts that are super tight....so if u have both ends...u use the breaker bar part....to loose the blot then the ratchet to remove it....because i hate getting up going throught the tool box and fing my breaker bar....just to relized...i let some a hole...borrowed it and never returned it.....you do that....you make alot of money...
Would you like to test Chicago Brand UK open end ratchet spanners? Quality metric and imperial open end ratchet spanners, stainless steel and lifetime guarantee! innovative new spanners to save time and effort. Used in the most demanding industries by professionals worldwide.
Oh, sorry... Here in Germany they are available :)
nice tool,....
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I've got many Wera tools. Nobody else I know has Wera tools.
They are like Mazda with its Rotary Engine. They are not for everybody. but for people who like very good quality /sometimes a bit fancy tools and do not mind the price. Wera screwdrivers are top notch. Cyklop ratchet is nice to work with. VDE handle with replaceable bits is simply great.
All jobs I do with Wera can be done with the most shitty tools. On the other hand I'm a well paid, professional, interested in technology engineer/technician who likes to have fun working with best tools I can put my hand on. Hence Wera.
As far as Joker line is concerned - I'll get these too, for the reasons above.
Wera make some really good tools, their Hex plus Allen keys are superb as are the Joker spanners. These have pulled me out of the crap a few times at work ;-)
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show me a video where this is successful in a situation where you can't reach the nut by hand you will never be able to start the nut
That's happened a couple of times on site- unfortunately I'm not allowed to take the camera in to film every awkward job I come across.
Looking at this design, I think the open end design would be perfect for a E200 bus engine mount bolts, now contemplating getting one of these spanners for that particular job
Every company skips a 15mm! Even automotive tools, which is where you're most likely going to have a 15mm!
+cujoedaman They tend to skip 18 mm, too. Which again, working in automotive situations, is a very common size, especially with US branded vehicles.
+Longbox55 18mm will drive me crazy to no end, because guess what the calipers on my truck call for?
Some companies skip some sizes in some sets, and for many jobs you can do without. For German cars you mostly need 10, 13,17 and 19mm, Some japanese uses 10, 12 and 14mm.. it depends.
I have a cheap set of wrenches that includes every size form 6 to 22, and standalone 24 and 27mm that gets most jobs done. for larger sizes I actually use a adjustable wrench, seems to be fine on the big ones.
Swedish stuff often uses 16mm and 18mm (for M10 & M12 fasteners)
Buy the original cheapest GearWrench set you can find and some tape, and congratulations! same exact thing!!!! except cheaper and actually useful for future uses, being that it's open end is not a 12 point bolt striper.
Where do you people get the idea that these wrenches strip bolts?These spanners are superb ;-)
its not usually the wrenches fault, allot of the time people grab one one size too big
then theres metric/imperial confusion omg
GearWrench, REALLY!! The same as WERA?? I am guessing you do not do real maintenance for a living. I work Industrial Maintenance (23 yrs) and I have had 2 sets of GearWrench, a set of HUSKY, and a set of BlackHawk by PROTO. All of these sets had the ring ratchets fall out and or lock up due to poor tolerence/cheap manufacturing. When buying wrenches you get what you pay for. WERA wrenches will last most mechanics a lifetime. QUALITY tools cost money. You should leave the tool reviews to people who actually use them 6 days/week for a living.
idek i just reckon they're awesome
I'm just thankful he explained what the arrow was for otherwise I'd be fucked 🤔 !!
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Their tool line is ridiculously expensive some are nicely functional but others are just Jank
Yes, they are not cheap but these spanners are very useful on some jobs.
Don't think i ever needed a 15mm over the past 25 years.
It depends what you work on, I use 15mm now and again on site but there is a chance that sometimes it's an imperial size and 15mm fits it well.
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Volvo truck exhaust straps. Ducati bike engine mounts, loads of brake calipers etc etc. I use my 15mm spanners and sockets all the time nowadays. I think manufacturers like to throw a curve ball now and again.
1/2" close to 13mm
9/16ths = 14mm
5/8ths = 16mm
There's no imperial = to 15mm, or maybe there is on paper but not spanner size.
M10 flanged nuts or flanged bolts are 15mm hex. Google DIN 6923 or 6921. Although I do have some flanged nuts which are the 'usual' 17mm also.
Wera must hate Japanese cars, especially Honda's. I do not remember EVER using an odd number size metric wrench under 17mm on them.
pssst3 Or just that the Japanese manufacturers aren't using the standard sized bolts, like most car manufacterers.
pronounced Vera
+Ray Rooney Yes, if you are German ;-)
Sears has had these wrenches 50 years ago. I have a set but it does not have the ratcheting box end. These wrenches are for very lazy people who refuse to get the proper size wrench for the job. These types of wrenches tend to round off the hex heads of the bolts they are used on. Get and use the proper size wrench and you won't round off the bolt heads!
I think you are commenting on the wrong video, these spanners are for specific sizes of nut/bolts 😉
@@ultimatehandyman The craftsman spanner set was one wrench for each common bolt size, SAE and Metric. I stopped using them because they used to round off the bolt heads during the ratcheting process.
@@jameskoralewski1006 These don't round off the heads, as you need the specific spanner for the nut or bolt that you are undoing.
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Scottish?
No, Lancashire, England ;-)