I think you summed up the game really well. I've honestly never played a game that immersed me nearly as much as Space Station 14. Sure, not every round is memorable but the ones that are will be gaming moments I'll probably remember forever. I've met a lot of awesome people playing this game, and I appreciate the shoutout. I love seeing new players, and seeing the community grow.
Couldn't have put it better myself. Just in the two months I've played so far, I've had some of my favorite gaming moments ever. It really is such a fun experience and I'm excited to keep getting more involved. Thanks for showing new players like myself, the ropes!
It's a shame to see your propaganda rotting the minds of new players and locking them into an objectively inferior and content-lacking clone of the game by making it seem like a sequel rather than the rip-off it is. At least I can find solace in the fact that you will never achieve the depth and variety in stations the original has surpassed 10-fold, which will, in many cases, prompt people to remove their blindfolds and give Byond a try.
@@tritoner1221 Space Station is for the people who have went to *THE ASYLUM* and had their brains lobotomized. Even though I may have slight interest, I am taken back to the times I have played it. To unironically play on Fulpstation, stuck in a narrowminded playset style - and while I did experience some of Goonstation, I don't think I would ever come to be robust even after 200 hours of playtime? Can't remember. Don't _want_ to remember. There were good times, there were bad times, but I know in the end it was just a waste of my time. You have to be into the round-based gameplay, have the wiki stuff pulled up to see what interesting thing you want to try- *oh wait that's metagaming* -get into social aspects, but at that point it still drags on and gets boring. You feel as if there are greater things to do, but fidgeting around pointlessly with the higher mechanics in an attempt to be robust is the wrong approach. Hours poured in ... in hopes of being seen as a true spessman. For what? At the end, it's an egoistical play of lobotomy patients. Follow the rules or be shredded with bwoink. Play other servers... if you aren't risk averse it'll work, but if you are you'll get cold feet. You lock in with what has already been made familiar to you. Sorry, but this isn't Dark Souls or something of the like. If you are trying to kill megafauna for achievement or something on a /tg/ server, the only time you can try again is next round (which, in higher roleplay formats, you have to call a "shift"... but even if you try to roleplay speak and reference things that are basically out of game knowledge, it is verboten). In a place where knowledge is expected, where one can be stifled, holed up in their department... getting blown up or whatnot, you can see where the game fizzles out. And oh yeah. Lag and random disconnections. What about when you need to close out of the game and open it back up because of some confounding error? SS14 most likely has more future because it'll be on an optimized engine compared to BYOND. I'll never be able to escape the pseudo-trauma that playing spessmans has given me, though. In order to capture that gem of a moment you have to go through the slog of rounds. It did not help me that I was the aforementioned risk averse person, and may still be even now. You look to have fun, to gratify yourself with, perhaps, being a Roboticist, or dabbling in other science things. I was excited to learn how to refine anomalies to make a Phazon... Bluespace Bags, etc. (though mechs are and will always be mid, get better at CQC I guess) - but all that ends up being a lengthy endeavor to regularly use that knowledge, hope to get better at it, set it up a bit faster... In the end, you are better playing another game that focuses on industrials instead. It's a social experience, is what I hear. But I guess there's not much satisfactiong to be had when worrying if you'll be able to perform your tasks... be it because of incompetence or your bargain bin WiFi or laptop (performance)... hell, maybe the BYOND engine itself. I think my brain is beginning to play trumpets, oh me oh my. Enough of that, I'm going back to watching my videos and attempting to enjoy my day. Have a Blessed Day! Sincerely, Lamadon Pyreus
What I can't stress enough is that Space Station 14 actually benefits from people being idiots and new, and that if you feel apprehension about not being able to do your job correctly - don't! The game is centered around the idea of the station being a bunch of dumb idiots barely held together with shoestring; do the best you can, but you won't be yelled at (OOC) if you accidentally overdose a patient on 30 units of bicar, or if you give out one too many tools as an engineer and accidentally allow a syndicate agent free reign to start cutting wires all over the station. The fuck ups make a given round fun.
I entirely agree. The best way to learn is to just jump in and start doing stuff. Personally I just get nervous I might be ruining someone's game experience. But then I remind myself it's really not that serious and next round I'll do a little better!
Something to note about ss14 is that each server can run the game in a greatly different way. Depending on the server you join, you can get mechanics that dont exist in other servers. Some have fully functioning AI systems, some have Psychic powers, Some are a persistent ship-based wild west economly simulator, some are built around being as insane as possible, and some are just the usual game with options for higher and lower RP levels.
@@carsonthompson4260 I also main Delta V, but I don't see very much furry-mindedness or weebdom there. Just actually pretty decent RP and gameplay from nearly everyone, all around.
SS13 player here. It's always remarkable to see the fact that SS14 has actually reached the point where the main devs could just drop the project at this point and it would be self-sustaining with the community. It's how 13 is still going after all... It finally broke the long-standing curse of remakes failing to gain traction. And I eagerly wait to see how far 14 will go.
I remember playing the original Space Station 13 a bunch on BYOND over a decade ago! I had no idea they remade it into a standalone game though! That's awesome! Thanks for bringing it to my attention! Looks much better without the more restrictive grid-based movement and sprites! I think it'd be fun to see you play more of this too, kinda like how you do your Shadows of Doubt videos, or however you think would be fitting for this game!
That's what I've heard from others too, is that they like the free movement compared to the locked grid on 13. I'm glad I could bring 14 to your attention, 13 definitely still has more content though. But if you come from 13, learning 14 should be a breeze. Maybe I'll come back to it in the future for an actual gameplay video. I think it would definitely be fun. Thanks for watching!
If you aren't interested in the basic stations, there are a few servers that run on different rule sets. My personal favorite is Frontier Station, where you can buy a ship or join a crew to make money in the expanse of space.
I was here before this blew up! I have a feeling this one's gonna hit the algorithm because I don't even watch space station 14 content and it got recommended.
Yeah this was a wonderful summary! You did a great job explaining the fun chaos that is "im just trying to do my job man..." I highly recommend the game
Pretty much 😂 I think my most used phrase in game is, "what the hell.." or "wtf.." because I'm always just reacting to something ridiculous happening. Meanwhile I'm just trying to mop and pick up trash
@@thatboywagsthat sentence is always goes to scientific department. Like. How in the world did you manage to fuck up to the point that it even effect the whole space station. Or why the hell you let an anom goes critical and making it ass for engineer to fix the spacing issue.
The feeling of nostalgia this brought me back from when I just started hit DEEP. When your just starting there’s a feeling around you where you don’t get what’s going on around you but it’s still extremely fun, and I’m glad to see more people get into it and you enjoy it. I hope you look around with the other servers too and enjoy your stay! Also, being thrown into SS14 first instead of SS13 is possibly the best way to adjust to the learning curve cause… well, if you’ve even seen the character menu it’s enough to send you into a shock.
That's definitely how I felt my first few times playing. There was so much happening around me but I was just so thankful someone was taking the time and showing me how to make drinks as a bartender. I'll never forget making my first drink successfully and then the whole bar cheering for me 😂 Yeah, I've seen a little bit of 13 already, and just from that small bit, I could tell it's a higher learning curve for sure.
This looks so cool! I’m glad I can always rely on your videos to show off really cool games that deserve more attention. Keep it going dude, you’re doing amazing
I remember encountering Space Station 13 years ago. But it just wasn't for me. That being said, it was the first thing I thought of when Among Us began gaining popularity. It's nice to see that it got a remake, and it's even nicer to see that it's running strong.
tbh even if you dont like ss13 ss14 is still worth a shot as its quite early in development so is much less complicated and the controls are much easier to understand.
The best part about SS14, is that as crazy and advanced as it is, it still has a ton coming up in the future (as it's predecessor, SS13 somehow has a ton of features that won't reach SS13 for a bit, but SS14 also does some unique things which are still noticeable differences between the two).
Thanks Butcher! I've watched a few of your videos as well and enjoy the content you make on the game! It's been fun getting involved with it. Thanks for checking out the video!
@@thatboywagsYeah, SS14 is a considerably simplified remake of SS13, which is much less "noob" friendly. Reason why it's always been a rather niche game, having a very, very steep learning curve. Having to learn the billion hotkeys, the billion complicated "realistic" mechanics that are still far from coming to SS14 (technically being still a mere alpha/beta of 13, missing a crapton of content), having to deal with the archaic, convoluted UI on the same levels of a MMORPG, having also to remember by memory which commands and keys to use for each specific action or radio channel, the more "zealous" people of certain servers being pretty unwelcoming to new players or just shitters/hostile in general... It's not easy.
@@FunnyStripes There is also the added issue when it comes to SS13.. Where both UI and control schemes also depend on the codebase said server is using. Because there are several different ones that exist for the game and some are extremely different. SS14 so far that I have seen.. For the most part seems to share the same codebase.
@@sean7221 BYOND can load external code, that's how the TG interface system for machines and such exist, so it isn't as limiting as people put it, the main factor here is just that it's code that has been reused for 20 years, and that's bad.
I've been playing Space Station 13 since 2015. Absolutely love it. I'm happy that there is finally a remake that isn't on the decades old BYOND engine.
Awe that's so cool to hear! It's awesome I have the opportunity to introduce people to new games they might like. I'm glad you're having a good time with it!
One of my favorite rounds was when a space dragon invaded the station, most people were dead, the only survivors (as far as i know) were scientists, and a few other people who we got into science, we researched weaponry and began retaking the station, we even had a chant! I don't think we killed the dragon :(
glad to see another person made some ss14 content!! this game dosent have many active youtubers besides a few… but it’s nice to see more people playing, recording, and having a blast playing this masterpiece of a game!!! this is such a good summary, and id love to see more videos from you in the future on ss14! and just a quick question, you ever play on something like frontier station? it’s one of my favorites because of the playability especially with friends!
I have not played frontier yet unfortunately but I've heard great things and have seen some fun gameplay of it. I think the whole idea of working with a small crew makes me nervous because I'm still new and don't want to ruin anyone else's experience. But hopefully I'll try it soon! And as for future videos, I'd love to come back to SS14 for another. Maybe down the road.
totally understandable, that’s probably the same reason I held off on frontier as well. it’s kinda like salvage specialist, but like, a lot cooler and with friends. you can buy ships and fly around to asteroids and mine them, me and mine found and old ship full of crates the second another ship docked onto the same old ship.
Love the video, but I do wanna say that I hope you keep doing Shadows of Doubt videos. I love that there’s a channel that takes that game on and gives it exposure it needs
SoD will always be around on the channel and I'll most likely always come back to it at some point. The community has grown my channel in a huge way. I have some more content for it coming soon!
Oh, wait, I didn't know you played SS14! Makes sense, I suppose. The heavy interaction of a bunch of deep mechanics to create a chaotic but internally-logical (by cartoon logic at least) world in which you have freedom to improvise toward your character's goals overlaps somewhat with Shadows of Doubt, as does the investigation theme somewhat (depending on role and game mode), with the extra addition of the extra social aspect and chaos source from it being (very) multiplayer. I'm kind of obsessed with this kind of 'graphical MUD/first-generation-MMORPG' style of 'sandbox' game design even though AFAIK it's largely extinct other than the 'living fossil' of SS13/SS14. To think about it crossing over with... -- Immersive sims? I guess you'd call SoD an immersive sim? -- is interesting to me. Maybe not all the lessons of those games were lost to the industry, even though mechanics-heavy immersive sims are also... let's say endangered. They at least have some 'horizontal gene transfer' with mainstream lineages like first person shooters, at least historically. I suppose there's also some crossover of SS13-like games with mechanics-heavy traditional roguelikes like Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead and their realtime and/or multiplayer descendants/imitators/re-imaginings (Project Zomboid, etc.), but that's more of a stretch, and again, not a mainstream genre. It's a pity, I had presumed that games would get more complex and simulationist (not necessarily simulating reality, simulating SOME kind of internally-consistent world) as technology advanced, but in large part they didn't. Sure, the cosmetic portions of the presentation -- IK, graphics, facial animation, etc. -- got more elaborate (and MUCH more expensive), but largely the games industry seems to focus on mechanically simpler titles. I can't really think of much actual new 'gameplay tech' that has developed since the 2000s. Really, the budgets (and amount of management) have ballooned to the point where you can never risk a project that 'some people might not get', I suppose. It's mostly only in niche indie spaces where you see really complicated or unusual games being attempted, and by nature then they don't have the budget to get too wild with research and development. I guess I can just hope for a renaissance of mechanically complicated games as the shift to open-source engines, libraries, etc. put more technically-challenging games within the reach of smaller and more niche teams every year.
Great quick look into the game, theres nothing more I could think to add for the 'base' game. Some of the other servers have different focuses than the main game, Defo go and check out Frontier Station. Thats all about crewing your own ships and making money that persists between rounds. Also has less antagonist influence.
Oh, there's a lot in SS13 that hasn't yet made it to 14 yet but could. Surgery is like one of the really big mechanics. with things like broken bones, internal bleeding, limb replacements, implants etc. There are also a bunch of antags that haven't made it to 14 yet, like blob, sentient virus and terror spiders (I think? or are they added already?). Another big one is the station AI role.
@@Kenionatus yea a lot of antags are missing and magic is more or less nonexistant unless an admin does an event, even then there are only magic staffs and no actual independent spells. I have heard that surgery is coming soon though, so lets hope for that. There are big spiders but they are all the same and there is no brood mother so typically people take the fifteen or so ghost roles fight for a bit kill some people then die and life goes on. They can make webs but unless they actually try to make a nest, which I've never seen someone do, it doesn't matter except for spiders placing webs in combat to slow people.
@@Kenionatus I more meant that the tutorial covers how things go in the usual server, not what features have been added to the game from SS13. As always, surgery is only a week away
Frontier turned me off entirely when the Station Traffic Controller basically chewed me out for not using their proper docking procedure when I was just starting out. I'm totally into RP, but the entire attitude was just such a turnoff. Like, let me just do shit for a while and maybe fuck off with your procedures at first, would ya? I really wanted to like it too, which was a bummer, because learning the ropes of that Server is a huge hurdle compared to other Servers, as losing money risks crippling you for a _long_ time unless you just reroll or Crew up. Like, the effort of just getting set up, learning to fly and be self-sustainable and actually financially functional was challenging and complex enough without me being stepped on by some hyper-stressed, power tripping STC. I don't think I'll be coming back to Frontier, which is a shame, because I really did want to like it.
This was a great video, Wags! I bounced off of 13 a long time ago, but started playing 14 about a week ago (on Delta- V.) It's just... incomparable. Everyone is typically pretty chill (unless they're stressed out, which is bound to happen,) but the level of RP on display and people just being fun to be around is such an experience. If you're already decent at RP, the only issue you'll really have to get around is adapting to the game mechanically and learning the responsibilities of each role, some of which are legitimately intense both RP and gameplay-wise (Medical, Security) and/or mechanically complex (Chemistry, Engineering/Atmos). I've never played a game where both my real life experience (as actual, real life Security) and my writing experience have been so compatible. Truly a unique experience. Edit: I recommend starting out in Botany, Science/Epistemics (on Delta) or Cargo, as they're all pretty reasonable and chill departments that operate on their own timetable and have combinations of complexity and simplicity that allow you to dive as deep as you want into the game's systems without necessarily getting overwhelmed. Also, don't worry about getting anxious or shy at first when people come up and ask you for things, it's perfectly understandable to just not _know_ things at first. That's why the "A" roles of Cadet/Assistant/Intern exist by department, so you don't have to worry about getting chewed out too bad if you screw up. If you accidentally let the Clown take your department's Autolathe, it just might lead to hilarious hijinks! That being said, Roles are typically on a first-come-first-serve basis, so if you end up in a Department you're unfamiliar with, don't worry about it. Take advantage of the learning opportunity. For non-Department roles, Janitor is _always_ highly recommended as a Job to start with for new players because you're still useful to the ship as a member of the Crew (I always appreciate a good Jani), you get to interact with people at your own pace (typically) _and_ you usually get involved in ridiculous situations just by the nature of your work. There are a ton of reasons why it's one of the most quickly taken jobs in the game. And if you just want to chill, just Greytide us as Passengers or whatever. The worst case scenario is that you'll be ignored because you're Grey, letting you adapt at your own pace, and the best case scenario is that people will either just legitimately engage with you or use you as a hostage, letting you get swept up in how 14 _really_ works without having to commit to the innate stresses of actual, Departmental responsibility. You might even get Hired/Promoted or Deputized into a Department in an emergency, anyways, or better (worse, for me as Security) you might even become part of the Revolution to take over the Station!
Love the idea of this game, but when I play, it's all just players farting around. If there's a chef, he's trying to break into some part of the ship, not getting food for anyone.
I *WAS* wondering whether the title was a typo... because I do remember the game being Space Station 13. Seeing you play this, it's drastically different from what I had experienced years ago (when Sseth played it). Controls for the game was confusing as fuck. I remember going to a room with people, just asking "how to do X" or if they could teach me. Pressed / did some stuff that I didn't know. Then they told me that I jumped on a crate, did a backflip, landed on my neck, and now I'm paraplegic and I can't move. I don't know if that really / could happen, but yeah I couldn't move lol. Anyway, found out that SS14 is an "improvement" / project to improve SS13. So hopefully, I could actually play this time... but hot damn if that wasn't a funny experience.
@@thatboywags It's definitely a great game, I'd recommend it at some point. Although there are different kinds of servers like ones for serious roleplay and ones for more casual chaos
I'm sure you can tell from the video that I've been playing passenger, janitor, and engi a lot 😂 but if people really wanted me to, I'd love to go back for a second type of video.
Well its moreso that SS13 is an old game and that BYOND, the engine it runs on, is even older. To quote SSeth, a very popular game reviewer, “10/10, don’t play it. Because frankly, the servers can’t handle you all.” Due to SSeth making a review of SS13, his fanbase flocked to almost every server, causing a ‘tide’ of new players, who mainly played as Assistants (or Passengers, in SS14 terms) who, as part of their default uniform, wear grey jumpsuits. All in all, players mainly don’t like when people make reviews or view said reviews because that inevitably means another ‘Greytide’ hits the servers. (Greytide being a lot of assistants, clad in grey.) Of course I do not speak for everyone, to each their own. Also as someone who plays SS13.. Ew, Antimatter engine..
I made content for ss13 that's very similar to your style of content where you try to turn the game into more of an immersive TV show for the viewer. There's absolutely an audience for ss13/14 content in the style you make most of your shadows of doubt content.
That's actually awesome and a little relieving to hear because I've definitely been thinking about it. I'd love to do little story diaries of different rounds and narrate my experiences.
Oh there definitely is. I would recommend trying out 14 if you've never played any of them before and want to get an understanding. And the maybe try 13 once you know what you're doing. Because it has a LOT more to it.
They're not too bad, especially if you often play PC. A lot of the interactions are done via menu. So the majority is just learning how to work your inventory and the quick controls for certain things. Again, Liltenhead makes some great guides for beginners and points out controls you wouldn't normally realize right away.
a word of warning just like ss13 the community on most servers can be hit or miss i keep far from the shanagins and just stick to a server. you like the general body of. so most of ss14s community is a thing to note. but ya its REAL fun, personally i keep away from medic and just stick to engineering roles namely scrapper for the sake of safety away from the hells in my safe little ship just doing dwarf things
suggestion for anyone reading, if you like this game but would rather fight in a 20th century war, check out Foxhole (join the Colonials we need every man)
please play the original space station 13, space station 14 is kinda still in early access while space station 13 had 10 years of an entire community coding it
I do want to check it out eventually! It feels like 14 is a good starting point to learn the mechanics and get a solid introduction. I've heard 13 has a lot more content, so I don't want to overwhelm myself too fast.
Me love this game. But the moderators are bullshit, IF I FIND A PLASMA GAS CANISTER IN MIDDLE OF THE BAR ITS OVIOUS ILL OPEN IT DUDE. GIMME A RED BUTTON AND I PRESS IT
![[SS14] Destroying the World with the Killdozer I Guess](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/gL2ri2V1GHo/mqdefault.jpg)
I think you summed up the game really well. I've honestly never played a game that immersed me nearly as much as Space Station 14. Sure, not every round is memorable but the ones that are will be gaming moments I'll probably remember forever. I've met a lot of awesome people playing this game, and I appreciate the shoutout. I love seeing new players, and seeing the community grow.
Couldn't have put it better myself. Just in the two months I've played so far, I've had some of my favorite gaming moments ever. It really is such a fun experience and I'm excited to keep getting more involved.
Thanks for showing new players like myself, the ropes!
I've played 1 round of SS13 ages ago, but this video got me into SS14 and I'm having a blast.
@@Jolfgardtell me if you ever meet Tun-Death-Dueler, if you do, say hi for me, he might give you something
It's a shame to see your propaganda rotting the minds of new players and locking them into an objectively inferior and content-lacking clone of the game by making it seem like a sequel rather than the rip-off it is. At least I can find solace in the fact that you will never achieve the depth and variety in stations the original has surpassed 10-fold, which will, in many cases, prompt people to remove their blindfolds and give Byond a try.
@@tritoner1221 Space Station is for the people who have went to *THE ASYLUM* and had their brains lobotomized. Even though I may have slight interest, I am taken back to the times I have played it. To unironically play on Fulpstation, stuck in a narrowminded playset style - and while I did experience some of Goonstation, I don't think I would ever come to be robust even after 200 hours of playtime? Can't remember. Don't _want_ to remember. There were good times, there were bad times, but I know in the end it was just a waste of my time.
You have to be into the round-based gameplay, have the wiki stuff pulled up to see what interesting thing you want to try- *oh wait that's metagaming* -get into social aspects, but at that point it still drags on and gets boring. You feel as if there are greater things to do, but fidgeting around pointlessly with the higher mechanics in an attempt to be robust is the wrong approach. Hours poured in ... in hopes of being seen as a true spessman. For what? At the end, it's an egoistical play of lobotomy patients. Follow the rules or be shredded with bwoink. Play other servers... if you aren't risk averse it'll work, but if you are you'll get cold feet. You lock in with what has already been made familiar to you.
Sorry, but this isn't Dark Souls or something of the like. If you are trying to kill megafauna for achievement or something on a /tg/ server, the only time you can try again is next round (which, in higher roleplay formats, you have to call a "shift"... but even if you try to roleplay speak and reference things that are basically out of game knowledge, it is verboten). In a place where knowledge is expected, where one can be stifled, holed up in their department... getting blown up or whatnot, you can see where the game fizzles out.
And oh yeah. Lag and random disconnections. What about when you need to close out of the game and open it back up because of some confounding error?
SS14 most likely has more future because it'll be on an optimized engine compared to BYOND. I'll never be able to escape the pseudo-trauma that playing spessmans has given me, though. In order to capture that gem of a moment you have to go through the slog of rounds. It did not help me that I was the aforementioned risk averse person, and may still be even now. You look to have fun, to gratify yourself with, perhaps, being a Roboticist, or dabbling in other science things. I was excited to learn how to refine anomalies to make a Phazon... Bluespace Bags, etc. (though mechs are and will always be mid, get better at CQC I guess) - but all that ends up being a lengthy endeavor to regularly use that knowledge, hope to get better at it, set it up a bit faster... In the end, you are better playing another game that focuses on industrials instead.
It's a social experience, is what I hear. But I guess there's not much satisfactiong to be had when worrying if you'll be able to perform your tasks... be it because of incompetence or your bargain bin WiFi or laptop (performance)... hell, maybe the BYOND engine itself.
I think my brain is beginning to play trumpets, oh me oh my. Enough of that, I'm going back to watching my videos and attempting to enjoy my day.
Have a Blessed Day!
Sincerely,
Lamadon Pyreus
What I can't stress enough is that Space Station 14 actually benefits from people being idiots and new, and that if you feel apprehension about not being able to do your job correctly - don't! The game is centered around the idea of the station being a bunch of dumb idiots barely held together with shoestring; do the best you can, but you won't be yelled at (OOC) if you accidentally overdose a patient on 30 units of bicar, or if you give out one too many tools as an engineer and accidentally allow a syndicate agent free reign to start cutting wires all over the station.
The fuck ups make a given round fun.
I entirely agree. The best way to learn is to just jump in and start doing stuff. Personally I just get nervous I might be ruining someone's game experience. But then I remind myself it's really not that serious and next round I'll do a little better!
Something to note about ss14 is that each server can run the game in a greatly different way. Depending on the server you join, you can get mechanics that dont exist in other servers. Some have fully functioning AI systems, some have Psychic powers, Some are a persistent ship-based wild west economly simulator, some are built around being as insane as possible, and some are just the usual game with options for higher and lower RP levels.
You can’t forget that Delta V has furries, more furries, onis (weebs), Shoko (the map for weebs) and psionics. Truly the best server
@@carsonthompson4260 I mean i main deltav, so might not be wrong (weeb)
@@carsonthompson4260 I also main Delta V, but I don't see very much furry-mindedness or weebdom there. Just actually pretty decent RP and gameplay from nearly everyone, all around.
Didnt even realize SS13 had a remake. Oh god, this is great. If you havent seen Sseth's "review" of SS13 it is a riot of ridiculous roleplay stories.
I'll definitely have to look into it, thanks for recommending it!
THANKS NI
@@tadpolegaming4510Sec to surgery, he's turning her into a Papa John's!
@@XSniper74184 you can't consent to being a pizza
did you try ss13 yet, @thatboywags
SS13 player here. It's always remarkable to see the fact that SS14 has actually reached the point where the main devs could just drop the project at this point and it would be self-sustaining with the community. It's how 13 is still going after all... It finally broke the long-standing curse of remakes failing to gain traction. And I eagerly wait to see how far 14 will go.
steam has it at 2000 currently ingame which is no small number for a game like this
As both a Shadows of Doubt AND a space station fan, this was a great surprise
It's always great when I can make videos for interconnecting audiences.. I didn't think I'd find anyone who was a fan of both, so that's awesome!
I remember playing the original Space Station 13 a bunch on BYOND over a decade ago! I had no idea they remade it into a standalone game though! That's awesome! Thanks for bringing it to my attention! Looks much better without the more restrictive grid-based movement and sprites! I think it'd be fun to see you play more of this too, kinda like how you do your Shadows of Doubt videos, or however you think would be fitting for this game!
That's what I've heard from others too, is that they like the free movement compared to the locked grid on 13.
I'm glad I could bring 14 to your attention, 13 definitely still has more content though. But if you come from 13, learning 14 should be a breeze.
Maybe I'll come back to it in the future for an actual gameplay video. I think it would definitely be fun.
Thanks for watching!
great video, never thought i'd actually play this game but i might now! would love to see some of the interesting rounds you play made into videos!
I'd love to hear your experience afterwards if you do end up trying it out!
And I've definitely thought about it!
If you aren't interested in the basic stations, there are a few servers that run on different rule sets.
My personal favorite is Frontier Station, where you can buy a ship or join a crew to make money in the expanse of space.
I was here before this blew up! I have a feeling this one's gonna hit the algorithm because I don't even watch space station 14 content and it got recommended.
I can only hope 🤞🤞
Thanks for watching!
Yeah this was a wonderful summary! You did a great job explaining the fun chaos that is "im just trying to do my job man..." I highly recommend the game
Pretty much 😂
I think my most used phrase in game is, "what the hell.." or "wtf.." because I'm always just reacting to something ridiculous happening. Meanwhile I'm just trying to mop and pick up trash
@@thatboywagsthat sentence is always goes to scientific department. Like. How in the world did you manage to fuck up to the point that it even effect the whole space station. Or why the hell you let an anom goes critical and making it ass for engineer to fix the spacing issue.
@@creatorbot0056 😂😂
@@thatboywags I feel this, Wags. Mine are "What the shit," (as any Department member) and "Far out," as my roaming Tider. 😆
The feeling of nostalgia this brought me back from when I just started hit DEEP. When your just starting there’s a feeling around you where you don’t get what’s going on around you but it’s still extremely fun, and I’m glad to see more people get into it and you enjoy it. I hope you look around with the other servers too and enjoy your stay!
Also, being thrown into SS14 first instead of SS13 is possibly the best way to adjust to the learning curve cause… well, if you’ve even seen the character menu it’s enough to send you into a shock.
That's definitely how I felt my first few times playing. There was so much happening around me but I was just so thankful someone was taking the time and showing me how to make drinks as a bartender. I'll never forget making my first drink successfully and then the whole bar cheering for me 😂
Yeah, I've seen a little bit of 13 already, and just from that small bit, I could tell it's a higher learning curve for sure.
This looks so cool! I’m glad I can always rely on your videos to show off really cool games that deserve more attention. Keep it going dude, you’re doing amazing
Really appreciate that man, thank you 👌
This is just an amazing presentation and introduction to the game, I absolutely loved this wild ride and hope you can have more success going forward.
I'm glad you liked it! Thanks for taking the time to watch!
@@thatboywags I hope to see ya soon on the station and have a nice time.
This video summed up the game really well. I'd love to see more SS14 content from you if you are up for it!
Thank you!
A lot of people are asking for it, so I might have to make it a priority.
new addiction unlocked, welcome to the club
Glad to be a part of it!
I remember encountering Space Station 13 years ago. But it just wasn't for me. That being said, it was the first thing I thought of when Among Us began gaining popularity.
It's nice to see that it got a remake, and it's even nicer to see that it's running strong.
tbh even if you dont like ss13 ss14 is still worth a shot as its quite early in development so is much less complicated and the controls are much easier to understand.
The best part about SS14, is that as crazy and advanced as it is, it still has a ton coming up in the future (as it's predecessor, SS13 somehow has a ton of features that won't reach SS13 for a bit, but SS14 also does some unique things which are still noticeable differences between the two).
I'm glad you've found this game. I've played on and off for about 10 years, and some of the best gaming experiences have come from these games.
That's awesome, and I can definitely understand why you keep coming back to it over time.
I think it'll be a game that I play for a while to come.
Damn, I can't believe I missed you playing this. I would love to see some rounds uploaded if you still play.
Really interesting! Love the idea of RPing with others and working your way up the chain of command!
It's a super fun experience for sure! Especially since you can take it as your own pace.
Nice work! Yeah, ss14 is great! The depth to it is insane!
Thanks Butcher! I've watched a few of your videos as well and enjoy the content you make on the game!
It's been fun getting involved with it.
Thanks for checking out the video!
@@thatboywags Yay, I'm glad you liked them! :D
I've never heard of this game till i stumbled upon ur video 2 days ago and now i cant stop playing - would love to see more of this on your channel!
That's awesome I was able to introduce you to it! I've thought about making a gameplay vid for it, I'm still very much a novice tho 😂
you have insiperd me to play with my friend again thanks :)
That's awesome to hear! :)
Now, you try SS13 and get a new addiction
Maybe down the road. I'm still on a major learning curve with 14, and I've heard 13 is even more in depth
@@thatboywagsYeah, SS14 is a considerably simplified remake of SS13, which is much less "noob" friendly. Reason why it's always been a rather niche game, having a very, very steep learning curve. Having to learn the billion hotkeys, the billion complicated "realistic" mechanics that are still far from coming to SS14 (technically being still a mere alpha/beta of 13, missing a crapton of content), having to deal with the archaic, convoluted UI on the same levels of a MMORPG, having also to remember by memory which commands and keys to use for each specific action or radio channel, the more "zealous" people of certain servers being pretty unwelcoming to new players or just shitters/hostile in general... It's not easy.
@@FunnyStripes There is also the added issue when it comes to SS13.. Where both UI and control schemes also depend on the codebase said server is using. Because there are several different ones that exist for the game and some are extremely different. SS14 so far that I have seen.. For the most part seems to share the same codebase.
SS14 is fast catching up to SS13, the problem with SS13 is the client side / BYOND engine. It's trash and severely limits developers
@@sean7221 BYOND can load external code, that's how the TG interface system for machines and such exist, so it isn't as limiting as people put it, the main factor here is just that it's code that has been reused for 20 years, and that's bad.
I've been playing Space Station 13 since 2015. Absolutely love it. I'm happy that there is finally a remake that isn't on the decades old BYOND engine.
I'd highly suggest trying it out. It has a lot less content on it, but it's an overall smoother experience from what I've heard.
@@thatboywagsyeah, i got banned in the smoothest way possible
I played 13 not very long and got 14 probably 4 days ago and started playing medic and had to deal with a bunch of snake attacks.
Man that was fun.
Hey, just wanted to let you know that since you posted this video I have played NOTHING ELSE. Thank you so much for introducing it to me.
Awe that's so cool to hear! It's awesome I have the opportunity to introduce people to new games they might like. I'm glad you're having a good time with it!
This reminds me of that one time I was on space station 13
I did not know Space Station 13 was real I was joking lol
Jokes on you, I was on Space Station 12
One of my favorite rounds was when a space dragon invaded the station, most people were dead, the only survivors (as far as i know) were scientists, and a few other people who we got into science, we researched weaponry and began retaking the station, we even had a chant! I don't think we killed the dragon :(
Yooooo its MEEEEEE 8:30 , Fr good video and i hope to see others join this game.
Love this game.
Same
glad to see another person made some ss14 content!! this game dosent have many active youtubers besides a few… but it’s nice to see more people playing, recording, and having a blast playing this masterpiece of a game!!! this is such a good summary, and id love to see more videos from you in the future on ss14! and just a quick question, you ever play on something like frontier station? it’s one of my favorites because of the playability especially with friends!
I have not played frontier yet unfortunately but I've heard great things and have seen some fun gameplay of it.
I think the whole idea of working with a small crew makes me nervous because I'm still new and don't want to ruin anyone else's experience. But hopefully I'll try it soon!
And as for future videos, I'd love to come back to SS14 for another. Maybe down the road.
totally understandable, that’s probably the same reason I held off on frontier as well. it’s kinda like salvage specialist, but like, a lot cooler and with friends. you can buy ships and fly around to asteroids and mine them, me and mine found and old ship full of crates the second another ship docked onto the same old ship.
SS13&14 are two of my favorite RP games!
Love the video, but I do wanna say that I hope you keep doing Shadows of Doubt videos. I love that there’s a channel that takes that game on and gives it exposure it needs
SoD will always be around on the channel and I'll most likely always come back to it at some point. The community has grown my channel in a huge way. I have some more content for it coming soon!
Oh, wait, I didn't know you played SS14! Makes sense, I suppose. The heavy interaction of a bunch of deep mechanics to create a chaotic but internally-logical (by cartoon logic at least) world in which you have freedom to improvise toward your character's goals overlaps somewhat with Shadows of Doubt, as does the investigation theme somewhat (depending on role and game mode), with the extra addition of the extra social aspect and chaos source from it being (very) multiplayer.
I'm kind of obsessed with this kind of 'graphical MUD/first-generation-MMORPG' style of 'sandbox' game design even though AFAIK it's largely extinct other than the 'living fossil' of SS13/SS14. To think about it crossing over with... -- Immersive sims? I guess you'd call SoD an immersive sim? -- is interesting to me. Maybe not all the lessons of those games were lost to the industry, even though mechanics-heavy immersive sims are also... let's say endangered. They at least have some 'horizontal gene transfer' with mainstream lineages like first person shooters, at least historically. I suppose there's also some crossover of SS13-like games with mechanics-heavy traditional roguelikes like Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead and their realtime and/or multiplayer descendants/imitators/re-imaginings (Project Zomboid, etc.), but that's more of a stretch, and again, not a mainstream genre.
It's a pity, I had presumed that games would get more complex and simulationist (not necessarily simulating reality, simulating SOME kind of internally-consistent world) as technology advanced, but in large part they didn't. Sure, the cosmetic portions of the presentation -- IK, graphics, facial animation, etc. -- got more elaborate (and MUCH more expensive), but largely the games industry seems to focus on mechanically simpler titles. I can't really think of much actual new 'gameplay tech' that has developed since the 2000s. Really, the budgets (and amount of management) have ballooned to the point where you can never risk a project that 'some people might not get', I suppose. It's mostly only in niche indie spaces where you see really complicated or unusual games being attempted, and by nature then they don't have the budget to get too wild with research and development. I guess I can just hope for a renaissance of mechanically complicated games as the shift to open-source engines, libraries, etc. put more technically-challenging games within the reach of smaller and more niche teams every year.
you should definitely give ss13 a try because of the sheer diversity of code and quantity of servers that can feel like entirely different games
Welcome aboard, enjoy your stay.
Ss13(14) and Dwarf Fortress ate the greatest games ever made.
Great quick look into the game, theres nothing more I could think to add for the 'base' game.
Some of the other servers have different focuses than the main game, Defo go and check out Frontier Station. Thats all about crewing your own ships and making money that persists between rounds. Also has less antagonist influence.
I haven't tried out Frontier but it looks really cool. I'll probably try it out soon.
Oh, there's a lot in SS13 that hasn't yet made it to 14 yet but could. Surgery is like one of the really big mechanics. with things like broken bones, internal bleeding, limb replacements, implants etc. There are also a bunch of antags that haven't made it to 14 yet, like blob, sentient virus and terror spiders (I think? or are they added already?). Another big one is the station AI role.
@@Kenionatus yea a lot of antags are missing and magic is more or less nonexistant unless an admin does an event, even then there are only magic staffs and no actual independent spells. I have heard that surgery is coming soon though, so lets hope for that. There are big spiders but they are all the same and there is no brood mother so typically people take the fifteen or so ghost roles fight for a bit kill some people then die and life goes on. They can make webs but unless they actually try to make a nest, which I've never seen someone do, it doesn't matter except for spiders placing webs in combat to slow people.
@@Kenionatus I more meant that the tutorial covers how things go in the usual server, not what features have been added to the game from SS13.
As always, surgery is only a week away
Frontier turned me off entirely when the Station Traffic Controller basically chewed me out for not using their proper docking procedure when I was just starting out. I'm totally into RP, but the entire attitude was just such a turnoff. Like, let me just do shit for a while and maybe fuck off with your procedures at first, would ya? I really wanted to like it too, which was a bummer, because learning the ropes of that Server is a huge hurdle compared to other Servers, as losing money risks crippling you for a _long_ time unless you just reroll or Crew up.
Like, the effort of just getting set up, learning to fly and be self-sustainable and actually financially functional was challenging and complex enough without me being stepped on by some hyper-stressed, power tripping STC. I don't think I'll be coming back to Frontier, which is a shame, because I really did want to like it.
High level antag power gamers are basically untouchable legends on servers.
This was a great video, Wags! I bounced off of 13 a long time ago, but started playing 14 about a week ago (on Delta- V.)
It's just... incomparable. Everyone is typically pretty chill (unless they're stressed out, which is bound to happen,) but the level of RP on display and people just being fun to be around is such an experience. If you're already decent at RP, the only issue you'll really have to get around is adapting to the game mechanically and learning the responsibilities of each role, some of which are legitimately intense both RP and gameplay-wise (Medical, Security) and/or mechanically complex (Chemistry, Engineering/Atmos). I've never played a game where both my real life experience (as actual, real life Security) and my writing experience have been so compatible. Truly a unique experience.
Edit: I recommend starting out in Botany, Science/Epistemics (on Delta) or Cargo, as they're all pretty reasonable and chill departments that operate on their own timetable and have combinations of complexity and simplicity that allow you to dive as deep as you want into the game's systems without necessarily getting overwhelmed. Also, don't worry about getting anxious or shy at first when people come up and ask you for things, it's perfectly understandable to just not _know_ things at first. That's why the "A" roles of Cadet/Assistant/Intern exist by department, so you don't have to worry about getting chewed out too bad if you screw up. If you accidentally let the Clown take your department's Autolathe, it just might lead to hilarious hijinks!
That being said, Roles are typically on a first-come-first-serve basis, so if you end up in a Department you're unfamiliar with, don't worry about it. Take advantage of the learning opportunity. For non-Department roles, Janitor is _always_ highly recommended as a Job to start with for new players because you're still useful to the ship as a member of the Crew (I always appreciate a good Jani), you get to interact with people at your own pace (typically) _and_ you usually get involved in ridiculous situations just by the nature of your work. There are a ton of reasons why it's one of the most quickly taken jobs in the game.
And if you just want to chill, just Greytide us as Passengers or whatever. The worst case scenario is that you'll be ignored because you're Grey, letting you adapt at your own pace, and the best case scenario is that people will either just legitimately engage with you or use you as a hostage, letting you get swept up in how 14 _really_ works without having to commit to the innate stresses of actual, Departmental responsibility. You might even get Hired/Promoted or Deputized into a Department in an emergency, anyways, or better (worse, for me as Security) you might even become part of the Revolution to take over the Station!
Why does every round I play as HOP the round ends in a singu/tesla or both loose?
One of my brothers works on the game daily and codes stuff and fixes bugs for the game!
Love the idea of this game, but when I play, it's all just players farting around. If there's a chef, he's trying to break into some part of the ship, not getting food for anyone.
Haven't watched it yet but isn't it space station 13 not 14?
Space station 14 is a remake of Space station 13
@@imasimpleman9215 i see. Cool, I'll check it out. Thanks for explaining mate
goated videos man
wait. isn't that the person i scammed for the ce boots?
Looks like fun and playable for my potato. Probably will download and play in the next 10 hours after work
Yeah it doesn't take much to run at all.
If you do end up trying it out, let me know what you think!
@@thatboywags A very high learning curve and lots of different buttons for different things
Will you do another " Shadows of doubt " video?
Yes, there will be more SoD
Thanks:)
I *WAS* wondering whether the title was a typo... because I do remember the game being Space Station 13.
Seeing you play this, it's drastically different from what I had experienced years ago (when Sseth played it).
Controls for the game was confusing as fuck. I remember going to a room with people, just asking "how to do X" or if they could teach me.
Pressed / did some stuff that I didn't know.
Then they told me that I jumped on a crate, did a backflip, landed on my neck, and now I'm paraplegic and I can't move.
I don't know if that really / could happen, but yeah I couldn't move lol.
Anyway, found out that SS14 is an "improvement" / project to improve SS13.
So hopefully, I could actually play this time... but hot damn if that wasn't a funny experience.
SS14 is a full remake of SS13 that uses a new engine
Its not finished, but it's bound to surpass the original
This game feels like if Barotrauma was in space
Sadly I haven't played Barotrauma but I've seen some videos and it looks really fun
@@thatboywags It's definitely a great game, I'd recommend it at some point. Although there are different kinds of servers like ones for serious roleplay and ones for more casual chaos
@@irecordwithaphone1856barotrauma actually took inspiration from ss13
You Sould Play The Classic Too Space station 13 its on byond!
Wags out here again, ontop of the fun shit. Honestly i would love to see you try different jobs
I'm sure you can tell from the video that I've been playing passenger, janitor, and engi a lot 😂 but if people really wanted me to, I'd love to go back for a second type of video.
@@thatboywags I remember, months ago I played Telescience. All the sciences were really fun, but I'm not sure was SS14 has
Thank god he reviewed SS14 and not SS13, lest theres another incident where BYOND has to struggle.
I'm guessing people aren't too nice about what they say about BYOND? 😂
Well its moreso that SS13 is an old game and that BYOND, the engine it runs on, is even older. To quote SSeth, a very popular game reviewer, “10/10, don’t play it. Because frankly, the servers can’t handle you all.” Due to SSeth making a review of SS13, his fanbase flocked to almost every server, causing a ‘tide’ of new players, who mainly played as Assistants (or Passengers, in SS14 terms) who, as part of their default uniform, wear grey jumpsuits.
All in all, players mainly don’t like when people make reviews or view said reviews because that inevitably means another ‘Greytide’ hits the servers. (Greytide being a lot of assistants, clad in grey.)
Of course I do not speak for everyone, to each their own.
Also as someone who plays SS13..
Ew, Antimatter engine..
Im a SS13 player that moved to SS14 because Byond doesn't let you play games on linux, it's been quite fun so far.
Lasted 2 months wihout getting banned or they already gave you a voucher ban (the most idiotic ban to appeal)
I made content for ss13 that's very similar to your style of content where you try to turn the game into more of an immersive TV show for the viewer. There's absolutely an audience for ss13/14 content in the style you make most of your shadows of doubt content.
That's actually awesome and a little relieving to hear because I've definitely been thinking about it. I'd love to do little story diaries of different rounds and narrate my experiences.
Oh neat.
Neat indeed
I wonder if there's still a ton of content missing in 14 that's in 13
Oh there definitely is. I would recommend trying out 14 if you've never played any of them before and want to get an understanding. And the maybe try 13 once you know what you're doing. Because it has a LOT more to it.
average ss14 fan VS average ss13 enjoyer
Tried SS13 a while back but the controls were just to weird for me. Wish listed SS14 on steam. How are the controls for SS14?
They're not too bad, especially if you often play PC. A lot of the interactions are done via menu. So the majority is just learning how to work your inventory and the quick controls for certain things.
Again, Liltenhead makes some great guides for beginners and points out controls you wouldn't normally realize right away.
Next time yer playing look for RD Fortuna, i'll hook you up with some of that good ol tech
Sounds good 😂 I'll give you a wave
dont forget about smugleaf
Mind elaborating?
mean when i’m sus
🤓
Best job is clown, no debates
I haven't played it myself but they never cease to make me laugh
PSA ITS FREEEEE
a word of warning just like ss13 the community on most servers can be hit or miss i keep far from the shanagins and just stick to a server. you like the general body of. so most of ss14s community is a thing to note. but ya its REAL fun, personally i keep away from medic and just stick to engineering roles namely scrapper for the sake of safety away from the hells in my safe little ship just doing dwarf things
suggestion for anyone reading, if you like this game but would rather fight in a 20th century war, check out Foxhole (join the Colonials we need every man)
I'll have to look into it for sure! It sounds right up my alley 😂
would be an honor to have you at our side@@thatboywags , love your content
I heard Foxhole is a shitshow now?
first time hearing of 14, somewhat familiar with 13, but gatekeeping/moderating kept me from getting into it.
I definitely suggest trying out 14 and seeing how you like it!
Hopefully it leads to a better experience than what you had with 13.
personally, i preffer 13.
Totally understandable!
please play the original space station 13, space station 14 is kinda still in early access while space station 13 had 10 years of an entire community coding it
I do want to check it out eventually!
It feels like 14 is a good starting point to learn the mechanics and get a solid introduction. I've heard 13 has a lot more content, so I don't want to overwhelm myself too fast.
20 years
Me love this game.
But the moderators are bullshit, IF I FIND A PLASMA GAS CANISTER IN MIDDLE OF THE BAR ITS OVIOUS ILL OPEN IT DUDE. GIMME A RED BUTTON AND I PRESS IT
why not just play ss13
Good. Now play 13.