With your brain and complete thought process, due it would catch fire.I've been there. Anyone one section alone, is overwhelming. There are destructive dynamic mechanical test cells. Magnetohydrodynamic liquid "wind tunnels".... At the end, I was asked, "What did you think?" I said, "I think I need a nap."
@@BPSspaceDo you remember your camera looking at camera rocket may it can be saved (only assumption) if you make the camera above came out like the camera below then even if it came out entirely still it could be pushed back inside because of high speed air and rocket could be stabilized and face that camera downward and you could had still got camera looking at camera shot
I was a human test subject at AMES in a study on exercise for the Mars mission. Got to meet one of the shuttle astronauts. It was a real honor to play a small part of the US space program. Great video!!!
@@ismzaxxon There are many areas of research at AMES. The test I was part of took place in Life Sciences. It was in the same building as space suit design and hydroponics. The test was featured in a late 1990's documentary by the Discovery Channel called "Destination Mars". I got my few minutes of fame.
The tangents are honestly my favourite thing about this channel now. Makes me not want to skip anything, and the videos are not often crazy long which is perfect
Am i the only one that wants joe to post like 2 hour long videos on his second channel that is him just going down all of his rabbit holes? Itd be like a podcast of someones unhinged science rambles and id love it
For anyone who wants to compare the plasma to other very hot things, 30000F is 17000K. For reference the core mantle boundary is up to 4500K, with the inner core being around 5000K. The surface of the sun is 6000K, though the core is 15 million, so we've got a way to go there.
I mean technically we already have the sun beaten with ITER, when it fires up it will be the hottest place in the universe and the magnets next to it will be cooled to near absolute zero meaning that the hottest place in the universe will be right next to one of the coldest places in the universe. Science is awesome.
I was and still am a CFD engineer from my master's thesis until now and no CFD will never 100% replace real testing for everything. It does and has already replaced wind tunnels within F-1 because we have 10000x the number of real windtunnel tests compared to the number of simulations that are being done. The regime that those vehicle operate in are very restricted and through regulation they are not set to start operating another 100 mph faster anytime soon so because the operational domain is very refined and so very well studied experimentally it will be years before CFD catches up to account for all of the simulation backed phenomena just in the boundary layers alone.
Hard agree - also this is strange to say but I remember seeing your HolliStar tests way back in 2015 when I was getting started in rocketry! Super cool stuff
I feel like it will continue to improve and reduce the number of early tests that are needed, but you really can't beat just actually doing the test in person when it comes down to it.
I'm pretty sure the reason nobody said anything is that every one of them has done that at one point or another and feels the same way about it It's a requirement
even though it is an airbus, airbus uses modified NACA airfoil so yeah, technically a model of that wing very likely was tested in the ames wind tunnel. cmiiw
Glad to see Hanger 1 going back together. As a high school student I trained at NASA Ames Research Center for machining and design. Later my first duty station in the U.S. Navy was VP-31 Staff in Hanger 1. Got to climb all over it, even opened the top hatch and sat on top of the hanger for a Blue Angels airshow. Good times. Once I put in a Request Chit to "Paint the hanger a light golden brown, so as to disguise it as a giant twinkie from the air". Oddly my request was summarily denied.
What a cool video of the awesome stuff going on around Ames! NASA definitely deserves the recognition for the amazing technology work they do outside of the high-profile flagship programs.
The slightly different focus on the details in the arc jet system, modelling the engine, and going into the wind tunnel tech at the facility was super cool. Can't wait to see others' videos for more details and I hope more videos like this get to happen in the future! Just the right amount of rabbit holes and the writing is great. And the video shots are entertaining. More waves at perfect optics plz!
Yes! It's so hard to be that person sometimes, but I guarantee you everyone except the tour guides (who've definitely already done it) really wanted to lol
I found you because of Mark Rober. My dad worked in New Orleans for the Apollo rockets and then the External Fuel tank for many years each time. He is now 83. Thank you!
Joe: “I test my heat-shield with a very hot blow torch“. NASA Ames: “Hold my beer”. No shade, Jon, but wow. I drive by that facility occasionally, and often wish I could get a glimpse inside. Thanks for taking us there.
I got to do some research project at AMES about 10 years ago. Really wish I could have toured around all the facilities like you did. Those wind tunnels are massive up close.
It was an honor to partake in NASA's NCAS program at Ames Research Center earlier this year and it was honestly really exciting to revisit what I saw in-person through this video!
It should be mandatory when you get a bunch of RUclipsrs together for something like this that, at some point, you all stand in a circle and film each other filming each other.
It is crazy how much you have learned about aerospace in the years watching your channel. I have studied, and worked on airplanes, rockets, avionics systems, piloted, and I'm certified. I feel you mastered Astronautical engineering way more did I ever did, very inspiring. Definitely recommend getting your degree trust me. You don't want to be another Chuck Yeager.
Thank you for letting us tag along in our own way. These are the kinds of videos that would have gotten me interested in STEM as a kid, and keeps my love of learning going as an adult.
One of the fire channels I watch every single video on without skipping a second. Incredible content, great visuals, impeccable explanations. Honestly I would watch you down every rabbit hole you could imagine because the information your provide is invaluable
My plane did a flyaround before landing at SFO on my way to open sauce, and I saw this huge cool facility out my window. I knew from the shape of the buildings this was something special so I snapped a pic. Watching this vid I suddenly remembered the picture and sure enough, that's Ames! These sorts of facilities are among the coolest places on the planet, thank you so much for sharing your tour with us!
the oil flow (or equivalent) is used in formula one racing cars. You usually can see it on the practice "one" (and mostly in the beginning of the season) . They apply it to the edges of the car and after one or two lap they bring the car in the garage and look at the flow of the air.
Hey Joe, Thank you for making these videos. As someone who is not really in a situation that allows me to do what you do with rockets, I think it's awesome to see you grow step by step, and to learn what you have learned. You're a great communicator, and I can only imagine what the future will bring.
Honestly i have a hard time beliving you managed to increase you video production rate so much, and i'm really greatful for every high quality video you make, thank you so much!
If BreakingTaps didn't get to go after that great shuttle combustion chamber video that's some real BS. Ah well, NASA can't get everything right, unless it really matters.
Well, just came across this channel and I have a applaud you guys! The advanced take on home rockets are nothing short of astonishing. Very well done on the vid!
Thanks for keep feding my brain with awesome science, beautiful pictures, ideas to think about, problems to dig in, food to make plans about what to do if there is more time again, ideas for little projects, reminding me again and again why I love science and creating stuff
I was on the way from the UK to Ames for a conference and tour, but it snowed a little and of course, London Heathrow Terminal Four failed completely. My flight was cancelled and because of the backlog it was impossible to get another flight in time. One day I'll get there. Now of course, I want to make my OWN Arc Jet!
Oil paint seems really similar to flowviz paint which is used loads for race car development still both in wind tunnels and full scale real world testing. Also you mentioned how you can test these things two ways with either object moving fast or the wind but normally it’s easier to just move the wind. Well there is a couple cases of race teams buying long railroad tunnels and climate controlling them and turning them into the first style of testing tunnels because it’s even more accurate than a traditional wind tunnel
I absolutely love this video. Having multiple YT folks talking about different parts of the same topic gives so much more insight. Everybody seems to take different views on the same topic. Thanks for sharing!
Oil flow is used by motorsport teams all over the world to check correlation between CFD, wind tunnel and real world. It's called Flow-Viz and is a very simple recepie. Might actually be something you can use yourself to check that your CFD works as intendent.
I've been a longtime viewer, and I want to thank you for the amazing content. It's been a true pleasure watching you puzzle everything out, and I can't wait to see where this journey leads... perhaps to the stars?
Ames is also the NASA lead for Space Biology, Small Satellite Technology, Robotics, Spacecraft Autonomy, Reentry Technology, and many other areas. Ames quietly pushes technology into the future to enable space exploration and science.
Don't forget human factors (human system integration), perhaps one of the more important divisions to everyday life since they've made the world a much safer place by studying the way that people interact with technology and have worked to reduce error rates and design safety critical systems to work with people how they exist in the real world and under stress. The checklists that airline pilots use in emergencies were completely redesigned with the help of NASA after an NTSB investigation showed that several preventable accidents were caused by confusing checklists. That work alone has saved countless lives over the last few decades.
Thank YOU for your videos like this and all of them. I'm not educated enough to do the things you do, but it fascinates me. I've been watching for what feels like years, and I truly value the work you do on them.
Dude, I've been watching this channel since you were in Nashville, you're killing it! It's crazy to me that this channel doesn't have >1Million subs yet!
Thank you for making amazing content and for pushing the boundaries of your own technical knowledge and capabilities. Also, there is no rabbit hole too deep for us. Post more tangent videos.
Oil testing is actually still used alot with f1 cars. Due to the regulations they have limited windtunnel time so during testing they add "flow viz paint" to the car to see how the air flows around while driving.
Oil flow is used by F1 teams all the time to do real world testing at the track, they just call it flow vis paint. its usually really brightly colored and applied to specific areas of interest on the car during practice sessions..
What a truly interesting place. Like a big toyland with lots of gadgets to play with. FYI, you can calculate the cost, not including wages and benefits, by finding out the size of the electric motor and by calculation you should be able to get the kWh used. Be sure to fi d out if the local utility has a demand charge for kW demand and/or time of use rates.
I used to work near Ames, in a building under one of the landing patterns. Fell in love with NASA's ER-2 jets. I used to call up the High Altitude Branch (I think I'm recalling that correctly?) on Mondays, and ask if there were any ER-2 flights scheduled for the week. If there were, they'd tell me which day(s), and departure & return times. I'd drive over to the airfield to take pictures of takeoffs, then later go up on the roof of our building and take photos of landings. Beautiful aircraft. The director offered me a chance to visit and take photos up close, but never got the around to doing it.
This was GREAT!!! In watching Formula 1, I know they fluid dynamics and wind tunnel testing during development but you mentioned the "oil" option which sounds like the flow-vis paint they spray on the cars (along with aero-rakes) to do live on-track airflow testing. Thanks for sharing your trip!
Oh you lucky duck. That's for sure the kind of thing you reschedule everything else to go do. Fun Fact: Oil flow modeling is used very commonly during the testing and development of formula 1 cars.
Thank you for persisting and sharing your hopes and dreams with all of us. I am living vicariously thru your videos. I had hoped i would work at JPL someday but life happens. May God bless your efforts and your space spot be an amazing success.
A similar system to oil flow is used on Formula1, they call it Flow-Vis paint where they on test sessions quickly paint the car with a liquid wax that dries quickly as the wind hits it, freezing it in place and showing how the air is moving around the car.
I imagine that if we all got bored and moved on, you'd still make videos of some sort for documentation. I grew up around EAFB, many of these bring back memories. Like checking out the airplane graveyard outside of EAFB proper. Launching the Green Machine 2 stage F size model rocket. The Mojave Green rattlesnakes.
You're such a good science communicator! A couple of years ago, I knew absolutely nothing about rockets. Now, I nod in agreement when you talk about foldable heat shields and ablating materials. What a journey! Thank you! (edit for typos)
Awesome. Thank you for sharing. As to your thoughts on RUclips - as long as creators such as yourself are documenting things they do and are excited/passionate about there will be an audience such as myself who will Watch, Learn, & Enjoy. Blessings & glad you got to do both OpenSauce and this trip in particular.
I used to work in the aerospace/cfd area and got tours at a wind tunnel a few times. It was significantly smaller, but still the local electric utility had to be called before starting the thing due to its gigantic power consumption. Nowadays the Compute Cluster for CFD at the location actually surpassed the wind tunnel in (annual) power consumption. Theres also a lot of interplay between CFD simulations and wind tunnel experiments, e.g. CFD code is usually validated from wind tunnel experiments and wind tunnel experiment data needs to be corrected for wall effects, sometimes using CFD results.
9:30 I recently had work experience at Rolls Royce and i image it to being similar to what its like in a test bed. Though I didn't get to go in test bed 80 (Largest indoor test bed in the world) the test bed I went in was surprisingly large.
CFD will never replace wind tunnels for two main reasons: 1. You need wind tunnels and experimental data to validate new cases of CFD simulations. 2. You can scale up a computer up to having high order simulations (LES, maybe DNS) of practical cases (e.g. a cruising airliner with a representative Re number), but the power consumption of the machine will also scale up. At some point it is going to be cheaper to build and test the thing that running super expensive CFD. The biggest super computers also has 10s of MW of power requirements.
Re your cost estimate, this complex is nowhere near a "normal" wind tunnel that you'd use for testing small-scale fin samples at subsonic to low supersonic (vs hypersonic) velocities. You're actually in the ballpark for a subsonic wind tunnel, for example the Kristen Wind Tunnel at UW Aeronautics & Astronautics lists a published rate of $860/hr for tunnel occupancy (including actual operation as well as setup/teardown) and a total cost including consumables, tunnel time, and other fees of $42K for a hypothetical aircraft testing scenario.
Originally became a fan because of the trying to land a model rocket series, but now I'm just here for the ride. Loving all the videos you're putting out 💪
At 7:20 looks like cake topping melt. And this is how atmosphere burns material off when reentry occurs. I didn't really understand the ablative shielding until now. Very interesting.
A decade ago I got to go inside one of the supersonic wind tunnels at NASA Glenn. The scale of the whole tunnel compared to the test zone is just crazy. So cool and weird to stand inside one.
Thanks Joe, nice show of the tour. Technically since they are a federally funded project the costs of operation is somewhere buried in the federal budget. Good luck on digging that one out. Parts of it reminded me of U of Ill nuclear reactor they had back in the 70's when I was student. Totally closed now of course (bad).
I've been reading about the early hypersonic bomber research done that through many more steps and several decades would lead to the space shuttle, and the industry leader at that point in Ames. With their hypersonic RoBo designs probably tested in that exact arc jet. Super cool
So jealous ya'll got to go on this tour. It looks amazing
With your brain and complete thought process, due it would catch fire.I've been there. Anyone one section alone, is overwhelming. There are destructive dynamic mechanical test cells. Magnetohydrodynamic liquid "wind tunnels".... At the end, I was asked, "What did you think?" I said, "I think I need a nap."
Bro atleast you are american not like me who is Lithuanian. You are so privileged
@@rojka-_- Hey we have ESA, CERN and ITER here in Europe, there's plenty of cool stuff for us to see.
is your second name Musk because boy do you look like him
@@rojka-_- Justin's Canadian, isn't he?
Barnard Plasma Systems???
🚨 REBRAND ALERT 🚨
@@BPSspace lol hes good tho
@@BPSspaceDo you remember your camera looking at camera rocket may it can be saved (only assumption) if you make the camera above came out like the camera below then even if it came out entirely still it could be pushed back inside because of high speed air and rocket could be stabilized and face that camera downward and you could had still got camera looking at camera shot
lmao 😂
@@BPSspace
I was surprised that they weren’t using magneto hydro dynamic thrust to accelerate the plasma while heating it.
Dude this was on Monday. How did you make this video so quick? I haven't even unpacked yet
I stole a bunch of Redbulls from the lounge 🤠
lmao
Aww, I'm looking forward to your version of this tour!
Just for protocol: this video is great, and I enjoy both of you)
Woah! That's real engineering! 🔥
Scott Manley was even sooner, like always 🎉
I was a human test subject at AMES in a study on exercise for the Mars mission. Got to meet one of the shuttle astronauts. It was a real honor to play a small part of the US space program. Great video!!!
were you ablative or refractory? 🤔🤔
You were a heat shield ?
@@ismzaxxon There are many areas of research at AMES. The test I was part of took place in Life Sciences. It was in the same building as space suit design and hydroponics. The test was featured in a late 1990's documentary by the Discovery Channel called "Destination Mars". I got my few minutes of fame.
@@vaporcobra Ha ha ha. Considering my weight loss by the end of the test, I would have to categorize myself as ablative.
@@brentwalker8596being able to put “former human test subject” on a resume is wild 😂
The tangents are honestly my favourite thing about this channel now.
Makes me not want to skip anything, and the videos are not often crazy long which is perfect
Am i the only one that wants joe to post like 2 hour long videos on his second channel that is him just going down all of his rabbit holes? Itd be like a podcast of someones unhinged science rambles and id love it
Make it a podcast but the video is just a flow chart showing how everything is connected XD
That would be awesome
ME TOOOO! The more rabbit holes, the better
I'd totally watch that
God that footage of the ablation is so cool looking.
For anyone who wants to compare the plasma to other very hot things, 30000F is 17000K. For reference the core mantle boundary is up to 4500K, with the inner core being around 5000K. The surface of the sun is 6000K, though the core is 15 million, so we've got a way to go there.
Thanks for the Kelvin reference.
"It's five digits" is basically enough. After a point, the units stop mattering much.
Nuclear Fusion... hold my beer 100 million K 🤯🤯
I mean technically we already have the sun beaten with ITER, when it fires up it will be the hottest place in the universe and the magnets next to it will be cooled to near absolute zero meaning that the hottest place in the universe will be right next to one of the coldest places in the universe. Science is awesome.
IDK why some people in the 21st century still measure things in barleycorns and feel hot scales. Move over to science units...
I was and still am a CFD engineer from my master's thesis until now and no CFD will never 100% replace real testing for everything. It does and has already replaced wind tunnels within F-1 because we have 10000x the number of real windtunnel tests compared to the number of simulations that are being done. The regime that those vehicle operate in are very restricted and through regulation they are not set to start operating another 100 mph faster anytime soon so because the operational domain is very refined and so very well studied experimentally it will be years before CFD catches up to account for all of the simulation backed phenomena just in the boundary layers alone.
Hard agree - also this is strange to say but I remember seeing your HolliStar tests way back in 2015 when I was getting started in rocketry! Super cool stuff
I feel like it will continue to improve and reduce the number of early tests that are needed, but you really can't beat just actually doing the test in person when it comes down to it.
And at the same time AM is saying simulation doesn't correlate with reality.
another SLAMMER! also, the obligatory "HELLO" in an echo chamber was absolutely necessary
I'm disappointed Scott Manley didn't step up with his customary "Hullo! It's Scott Manley here." Quick thinking by Joe there.
I'm pretty sure the reason nobody said anything is that every one of them has done that at one point or another and feels the same way about it
It's a requirement
I really love the final shot out at the wing of your plane, because that wing very likely once had a model in the Ames wind tunnel
even though it is an airbus, airbus uses modified NACA airfoil so yeah, technically a model of that wing very likely was tested in the ames wind tunnel. cmiiw
Tim, Joe and Scott are legendary.
I don’t get why they made this so complicated when they could’ve just made it out of blue tape and hot glue
there's a bit of german ancestry in NACA/NASA, that's why 😅
However complicated it may be, they still used paperclips.
To quote Xyla Foxlin: "There's a reason hot glue rhymes with Mach Two."
Government agency
Lots of familiar faces in that crowd. Man, that footage from the arc jet is nuts.
woah is that Tim Dodd the everyday astronaut
That's actually Tom Didd the Bi-annual Scuba Diver!
No, it's a Supra.
@@chrisbrowning360
“wipes glasses”
Is that a Supra?!
No, sir. This is a Wendy's........
@@BPSspacelol
8:50 oh god PLEASE go on every single tangent, I LOVE your tangents
Glad to see Hanger 1 going back together. As a high school student I trained at NASA Ames Research Center for machining and design. Later my first duty station in the U.S. Navy was VP-31 Staff in Hanger 1.
Got to climb all over it, even opened the top hatch and sat on top of the hanger for a Blue Angels airshow. Good times.
Once I put in a Request Chit to "Paint the hanger a light golden brown, so as to disguise it as a giant twinkie from the air". Oddly my request was summarily denied.
What a cool video of the awesome stuff going on around Ames! NASA definitely deserves the recognition for the amazing technology work they do outside of the high-profile flagship programs.
The slightly different focus on the details in the arc jet system, modelling the engine, and going into the wind tunnel tech at the facility was super cool. Can't wait to see others' videos for more details and I hope more videos like this get to happen in the future! Just the right amount of rabbit holes and the writing is great. And the video shots are entertaining. More waves at perfect optics plz!
9:35 thank you for putting potential embarrassment on the line and getting that audio clip for us!
Yes! It's so hard to be that person sometimes, but I guarantee you everyone except the tour guides (who've definitely already done it) really wanted to lol
We thought it was Scott Manley when we heard it. 🙃
Legit you need to make a down-the-rabbit-hole channel to talk about all the different tangents. You've got so many people geeking out about this
I found you because of Mark Rober. My dad worked in New Orleans for the Apollo rockets and then the External Fuel tank for many years each time. He is now 83.
Thank you!
13:51 RUclips will never die as long as there is people teaching entertaining and everything else I don't see it ever going away
Joe: “I test my heat-shield with a very hot blow torch“.
NASA Ames: “Hold my beer”.
No shade, Jon, but wow. I drive by that facility occasionally, and often wish I could get a glimpse inside. Thanks for taking us there.
Arc Jet people say, "If you want to get into space, go to Marshall. If you want to get back to earth, come to Ames."
I got to do some research project at AMES about 10 years ago. Really wish I could have toured around all the facilities like you did. Those wind tunnels are massive up close.
It was an honor to partake in NASA's NCAS program at Ames Research Center earlier this year and it was honestly really exciting to revisit what I saw in-person through this video!
It should be mandatory when you get a bunch of RUclipsrs together for something like this that, at some point, you all stand in a circle and film each other filming each other.
It is crazy how much you have learned about aerospace in the years watching your channel.
I have studied, and worked on airplanes, rockets, avionics systems, piloted, and I'm certified. I feel you mastered Astronautical engineering way more did I ever did, very inspiring. Definitely recommend getting your degree trust me. You don't want to be another Chuck Yeager.
Thank you for letting us tag along in our own way. These are the kinds of videos that would have gotten me interested in STEM as a kid, and keeps my love of learning going as an adult.
omg Joey is going to take his milk carbonating to a whole new level with this technology!
One of the fire channels I watch every single video on without skipping a second. Incredible content, great visuals, impeccable explanations. Honestly I would watch you down every rabbit hole you could imagine because the information your provide is invaluable
"Is it between 200 and 2000 per hour?"
"You're... _way_ off" 😂😂
....I mean he's almost 1/4 of the way there ;-)
The labor costs alone...
@@WindTunnelJonwould that be including the work of world class engineers such as yourself or you're running a ~40MW fan? 😮
@hvip4 our facility tops out around 170mw, but yes ;)
Joe Barnard, Tim Dodd, Scott Manley, Tibees, and more! What an awesome group of people!
My plane did a flyaround before landing at SFO on my way to open sauce, and I saw this huge cool facility out my window. I knew from the shape of the buildings this was something special so I snapped a pic. Watching this vid I suddenly remembered the picture and sure enough, that's Ames!
These sorts of facilities are among the coolest places on the planet, thank you so much for sharing your tour with us!
I live just up the road from Ames and it is so interesting to finally see some of the science and engineering that goes on inside.
the oil flow (or equivalent) is used in formula one racing cars. You usually can see it on the practice "one" (and mostly in the beginning of the season) . They apply it to the edges of the car and after one or two lap they bring the car in the garage and look at the flow of the air.
Hey Joe,
Thank you for making these videos. As someone who is not really in a situation that allows me to do what you do with rockets, I think it's awesome to see you grow step by step, and to learn what you have learned. You're a great communicator, and I can only imagine what the future will bring.
Honestly i have a hard time beliving you managed to increase you video production rate so much, and i'm really greatful for every high quality video you make, thank you so much!
🤩🤩🤩 So damn cool! Looking forward to your plasma experiments too!
Why is this comment buried so deep in the comment section.
If BreakingTaps didn't get to go after that great shuttle combustion chamber video that's some real BS. Ah well, NASA can't get everything right, unless it really matters.
I'm glad YT suggested this after Scott's video. Well presented and it was nice to hear a different perspective.
My father worked at AMES, he never told me the top speed. Amazing footage, you earned a follow..
Well, just came across this channel and I have a applaud you guys! The advanced take on home rockets are nothing short of astonishing. Very well done on the vid!
Been waiting for this drop since Scott Manley's video a few days ago. Excited to see your perspective and how it pertains to your space shot.
Thanks for keep feding my brain with awesome science, beautiful pictures, ideas to think about, problems to dig in, food to make plans about what to do if there is more time again, ideas for little projects, reminding me again and again why I love science and creating stuff
I was on the way from the UK to Ames for a conference and tour, but it snowed a little and of course, London Heathrow Terminal Four failed completely. My flight was cancelled and because of the backlog it was impossible to get another flight in time. One day I'll get there. Now of course, I want to make my OWN Arc Jet!
Oil paint seems really similar to flowviz paint which is used loads for race car development still both in wind tunnels and full scale real world testing.
Also you mentioned how you can test these things two ways with either object moving fast or the wind but normally it’s easier to just move the wind. Well there is a couple cases of race teams buying long railroad tunnels and climate controlling them and turning them into the first style of testing tunnels because it’s even more accurate than a traditional wind tunnel
4:33 that is one of the coolest spooling-up sounds i have ever heard
I absolutely love this video. Having multiple YT folks talking about different parts of the same topic gives so much more insight. Everybody seems to take different views on the same topic. Thanks for sharing!
Phwoaar. Someone turned an old Skool Mac into a robot. So awesome! Thanks for sharing this with us Joe. I'm loving the extra side tracks !
Nice look inside Ames. Fascinating work happens there with a long history.
Oil flow is used by motorsport teams all over the world to check correlation between CFD, wind tunnel and real world. It's called Flow-Viz and is a very simple recepie. Might actually be something you can use yourself to check that your CFD works as intendent.
Indeed.
Thank you Joe.
What you've built and achieved with this youtube channel is a true inspiration.
I've been a longtime viewer, and I want to thank you for the amazing content. It's been a true pleasure watching you puzzle everything out, and I can't wait to see where this journey leads... perhaps to the stars?
Ames is also the NASA lead for Space Biology, Small Satellite Technology, Robotics, Spacecraft Autonomy, Reentry Technology, and many other areas. Ames quietly pushes technology into the future to enable space exploration and science.
Don't forget human factors (human system integration), perhaps one of the more important divisions to everyday life since they've made the world a much safer place by studying the way that people interact with technology and have worked to reduce error rates and design safety critical systems to work with people how they exist in the real world and under stress. The checklists that airline pilots use in emergencies were completely redesigned with the help of NASA after an NTSB investigation showed that several preventable accidents were caused by confusing checklists. That work alone has saved countless lives over the last few decades.
Thank YOU for your videos like this and all of them. I'm not educated enough to do the things you do, but it fascinates me. I've been watching for what feels like years, and I truly value the work you do on them.
Dude, I've been watching this channel since you were in Nashville, you're killing it! It's crazy to me that this channel doesn't have >1Million subs yet!
Thank you for making amazing content and for pushing the boundaries of your own technical knowledge and capabilities. Also, there is no rabbit hole too deep for us. Post more tangent videos.
Oil testing is actually still used alot with f1 cars. Due to the regulations they have limited windtunnel time so during testing they add "flow viz paint" to the car to see how the air flows around while driving.
Oil flow is used by F1 teams all the time to do real world testing at the track, they just call it flow vis paint. its usually really brightly colored and applied to specific areas of interest on the car during practice sessions..
I'm so glad you decided to share this. It feels like something I'd never have been able to see on my own.
What a truly interesting place. Like a big toyland with lots of gadgets to play with. FYI, you can calculate the cost, not including wages and benefits, by finding out the size of the electric motor and by calculation you should be able to get the kWh used. Be sure to fi d out if the local utility has a demand charge for kW demand and/or time of use rates.
Joel, your channel is special. That humble thank you is icing on a rocket fuel cake. Keep it up, man. We are all in.
I used to work near Ames, in a building under one of the landing patterns. Fell in love with NASA's ER-2 jets. I used to call up the High Altitude Branch (I think I'm recalling that correctly?) on Mondays, and ask if there were any ER-2 flights scheduled for the week. If there were, they'd tell me which day(s), and departure & return times. I'd drive over to the airfield to take pictures of takeoffs, then later go up on the roof of our building and take photos of landings. Beautiful aircraft. The director offered me a chance to visit and take photos up close, but never got the around to doing it.
That was super cool, like the entire thing, but especially from 4:33 onwards. Absolute "science-fiction in reality" vibe. Thank you!
This was GREAT!!! In watching Formula 1, I know they fluid dynamics and wind tunnel testing during development but you mentioned the "oil" option which sounds like the flow-vis paint they spray on the cars (along with aero-rakes) to do live on-track airflow testing. Thanks for sharing your trip!
Oh you lucky duck. That's for sure the kind of thing you reschedule everything else to go do. Fun Fact: Oil flow modeling is used very commonly during the testing and development of formula 1 cars.
Thank you for persisting and sharing your hopes and dreams with all of us. I am living vicariously thru your videos. I had hoped i would work at JPL someday but life happens. May God bless your efforts and your space spot be an amazing success.
I enjoyed that, thank you, like being back at work 30 years ago at the Royal Aerospace Establishment Farnborough.
A similar system to oil flow is used on Formula1, they call it Flow-Vis paint where they on test sessions quickly paint the car with a liquid wax that dries quickly as the wind hits it, freezing it in place and showing how the air is moving around the car.
thanks for making videos they are a pleasure to watch, its nice watching videos of people who have real passion in things
I imagine that if we all got bored and moved on, you'd still make videos of some sort for documentation.
I grew up around EAFB, many of these bring back memories. Like checking out the airplane graveyard outside of EAFB proper. Launching the Green Machine 2 stage F size model rocket. The Mojave Green rattlesnakes.
You're such a good science communicator! A couple of years ago, I knew absolutely nothing about rockets. Now, I nod in agreement when you talk about foldable heat shields and ablating materials. What a journey! Thank you! (edit for typos)
Awesome. Thank you for sharing. As to your thoughts on RUclips - as long as creators such as yourself are documenting things they do and are excited/passionate about there will be an audience such as myself who will Watch, Learn, & Enjoy. Blessings & glad you got to do both OpenSauce and this trip in particular.
I used to work in the aerospace/cfd area and got tours at a wind tunnel a few times. It was significantly smaller, but still the local electric utility had to be called before starting the thing due to its gigantic power consumption. Nowadays the Compute Cluster for CFD at the location actually surpassed the wind tunnel in (annual) power consumption. Theres also a lot of interplay between CFD simulations and wind tunnel experiments, e.g. CFD code is usually validated from wind tunnel experiments and wind tunnel experiment data needs to be corrected for wall effects, sometimes using CFD results.
9:30 I recently had work experience at Rolls Royce and i image it to being similar to what its like in a test bed. Though I didn't get to go in test bed 80 (Largest indoor test bed in the world) the test bed I went in was surprisingly large.
I had goosebumps from the images of nasa facilities. Thank you!
The minute I saw Scott video I knew I would be waiting for this
No way, I go to school right next Ames! Hoping to visit someday once I get into the aerospace program at my school!
CFD will never replace wind tunnels for two main reasons:
1. You need wind tunnels and experimental data to validate new cases of CFD simulations.
2. You can scale up a computer up to having high order simulations (LES, maybe DNS) of practical cases (e.g. a cruising airliner with a representative Re number), but the power consumption of the machine will also scale up. At some point it is going to be cheaper to build and test the thing that running super expensive CFD. The biggest super computers also has 10s of MW of power requirements.
I don't think we will ever get bored with the videos you do, Joe. Keep 'em coming!!! 🙂
Re your cost estimate, this complex is nowhere near a "normal" wind tunnel that you'd use for testing small-scale fin samples at subsonic to low supersonic (vs hypersonic) velocities.
You're actually in the ballpark for a subsonic wind tunnel, for example the Kristen Wind Tunnel at UW Aeronautics & Astronautics lists a published rate of $860/hr for tunnel occupancy (including actual operation as well as setup/teardown) and a total cost including consumables, tunnel time, and other fees of $42K for a hypothetical aircraft testing scenario.
Originally became a fan because of the trying to land a model rocket series, but now I'm just here for the ride. Loving all the videos you're putting out 💪
One heck of a tidbit, thanks for sharing! And also that kegular cameo at the end 😎
At 7:20 looks like cake topping melt. And this is how atmosphere burns material off when reentry occurs. I didn't really understand the ablative shielding until now. Very interesting.
A decade ago I got to go inside one of the supersonic wind tunnels at NASA Glenn. The scale of the whole tunnel compared to the test zone is just crazy. So cool and weird to stand inside one.
Thanks Joe, nice show of the tour. Technically since they are a federally funded project the costs of operation is somewhere buried in the federal budget. Good luck on digging that one out. Parts of it reminded me of U of Ill nuclear reactor they had back in the 70's when I was student. Totally closed now of course (bad).
This is what I'm here for! Excellent STEM content and a damn good watch! Thanks, dude!
I've been reading about the early hypersonic bomber research done that through many more steps and several decades would lead to the space shuttle, and the industry leader at that point in Ames. With their hypersonic RoBo designs probably tested in that exact arc jet. Super cool
I used to work at a desk with view of that building. They always had interesting stuff going on.
THX for making content that ist right at the top of my daily evening dose of space news. Together with Tim and Scott. Top notch "Entertainment".
That's so cool, I wish I could get to see something like that close up one day.
We will never get bored of your content Joe! Keep up the good work!
That is by far the most cool slow mo footage I've ever seen
Mind-blowing experience, I felt like I was there, thank you for this "different" video, made as usual with passion!!!
I'm sorry Joe... at 5:30 when it cuts to you with your blowtorch after witnessing the Arcjet I actually actually lol'd
Thank YOU for making such fascinating videos and I enjoy your great attitude and gratitude. Wishing you much good luck on your future endeavors.
Those facilities are just mind boggling!
We need a longer video 😂 so many things I want to know more about. Could do with a whole series branching from this video!!!! NEED MORE
OMFG you got to hang out with Scott Manley, that’s the dream.
Also a cool facility.
It's space... We never get bored of it! We know to be patient!