The independent suspension vehicles are probably not going to flip when they pick a wheel up... They don't lift wheels when the suspension is maxed out. They often lift wheels when there isn't enough weight for the suspension to compress because of the motion ratio of the suspension. Wranglers will pick up wheels when the suspension maxes out , especially when the anti sway bar is disconnected. With independent suspension , lifting a wheel does NOT mean that roll over is imminent...
But if they are at an extreme angle due to wheel lift, the weight of the leaning vehicle means a roll over is a possibility if the angle is great enough
@@AustinH7 yeah anything can roll over. It takes a lot for the Cherokee Trailhawk. Arguably there aren't as many trailhawk videos as there are Wrangler videos, But I can't find a single Cherokee Trailhawk video with a rollover. Stand by and I'll send you a couple videos of pretty insane angles of renegades and Cherokee trailhawks where they don't tip over. They really look like they're going to but they don't. Amazingly stable.
@@AustinH7 this is one example and it gets much worse looking than this. There are videos much steeper. ruclips.net/user/shortsu8CvrL6qQPM?feature=share
@@AustinH7 ruclips.net/video/T_eJnsPTDxs/видео.html It gets pretty crazy how steep any of the Trailhawk Jeeps can tip. All of them are four wheel independent suspension whether it's the Grand Cherokee Renegade Compass or Cherokee. The other thing is... Every single Jeep is fully independent suspension except for the Wranglers and the gladiators. It's just an interesting thing to think about. I think it's funny how people say Toyota is IFS and Jeep is solid axle... I'm thinking... Actually... every single Jeep has FULL Independent suspension... Except for the Wrangler / Gladiator. I'll put money on the new Jeep Recon. Being full independent suspension also.
Same! I have never ever taken my 17' FXT off road seriously. Just the occasional dirt road here and there. I'm hoping to take it here for my first time. Have you been? Would you recommend it especially for a beginner? I am hoping to get some 17 inch wheels with the falken wildpeak a/t trails (the less aggressive version of the at3) before going.
Be really really careful going up Mcray road to the top of the mountain after rain, it gets really muddy and easy to slide off the road for the unprepared
They definitely are not lol. I only broke a bumper tab luckily, but I did have my transmission replaced a year later (luckily under warranty). Shortly after this trip, I had installed a lift with 31” tires, and did a few of the popular Overlanding routes near me. The transmission couldn’t take the rock-crawly sections and steep uphills.
As a 4x4 my self..
You all did a great job.
Great control as well.
Wow! A 4x4 vehicle with the capability to post comments on youtube!
These videos make me miss my forester man. Keep it up
I know someone in that group has now got a jeep lol. I've been there many times in my jeep. Its good practice for the harder trails we go to.
Awesome crawl
Thanks. It’s less like rock-crawling and more like rock-stumbling.
You guys didn’t even need to hold the cars haha 3 wheel wave
Just found your channel. More videos man!
Awesome choice of music
Don't know if this is sarcastic or not lol. These are iMovie default tracks on iPad.
@@DonutSixActual not sarcastic at all. Great video!
The independent suspension vehicles are probably not going to flip when they pick a wheel up... They don't lift wheels when the suspension is maxed out. They often lift wheels when there isn't enough weight for the suspension to compress because of the motion ratio of the suspension. Wranglers will pick up wheels when the suspension maxes out , especially when the anti sway bar is disconnected. With independent suspension , lifting a wheel does NOT mean that roll over is imminent...
But if they are at an extreme angle due to wheel lift, the weight of the leaning vehicle means a roll over is a possibility if the angle is great enough
@@AustinH7 yeah anything can roll over. It takes a lot for the Cherokee Trailhawk. Arguably there aren't as many trailhawk videos as there are Wrangler videos, But I can't find a single Cherokee Trailhawk video with a rollover. Stand by and I'll send you a couple videos of pretty insane angles of renegades and Cherokee trailhawks where they don't tip over. They really look like they're going to but they don't. Amazingly stable.
@@AustinH7 this is one example and it gets much worse looking than this. There are videos much steeper.
ruclips.net/user/shortsu8CvrL6qQPM?feature=share
@@AustinH7 ruclips.net/video/T_eJnsPTDxs/видео.html
It gets pretty crazy how steep any of the Trailhawk Jeeps can tip. All of them are four wheel independent suspension whether it's the Grand Cherokee Renegade Compass or Cherokee. The other thing is... Every single Jeep is fully independent suspension except for the Wranglers and the gladiators. It's just an interesting thing to think about.
I think it's funny how people say Toyota is IFS and Jeep is solid axle... I'm thinking... Actually... every single Jeep has FULL Independent suspension... Except for the Wrangler / Gladiator.
I'll put money on the new Jeep Recon. Being full independent suspension also.
This was so funny haha,.
Lol the end of the video looks like the subaru/pilot got lost on the way to the grocery store
hahahaha
3:57 is where my uncle broke off his drive shaft
Hey I live 5 minutes away from there I think I'll go.today
this makes me feel better about keeping the 18s on my fxt. and I have much meatier tires than the Forester with 18s in this vid
Same! I have never ever taken my 17' FXT off road seriously. Just the occasional dirt road here and there. I'm hoping to take it here for my first time. Have you been? Would you recommend it especially for a beginner? I am hoping to get some 17 inch wheels with the falken wildpeak a/t trails (the less aggressive version of the at3) before going.
Are the trails marked on the road or only in the maps?
They’re marked on the roads as well.
Question:can you take a 2wd Tacoma with locker there?
I don’t see why not, should be more than capable. Just stay off the really hard trails and you should be fine.
If a sub can then you can.
Be really really careful going up Mcray road to the top of the mountain after rain, it gets really muddy and easy to slide off the road for the unprepared
are you folks on a lift?
Not at the time of this vid. Now on ~3” of lift between suspension and tires.
What does "blue" mean?
Blue?
Blue means medium trail at Hollister. It goes green, blue, black diamond
Are foresters built to do this kinda off road stuff? Did you break anything lol
They definitely are not lol. I only broke a bumper tab luckily, but I did have my transmission replaced a year later (luckily under warranty). Shortly after this trip, I had installed a lift with 31” tires, and did a few of the popular Overlanding routes near me. The transmission couldn’t take the rock-crawly sections and steep uphills.
Lol. This looks epic for a sub, buy for a jeep it's just another bump in the road. I for a jeep it's the trail to get to the real.off roading
Jeep owner here. Yes exactly haha! But still impressive.
Ironically, I just traded up for a JLU Willy’s lol. After having it for a few months, I can see how absolutely true your statement is.
U guys have a insta
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