Ancient tree from India may replace petroleum, company hopes
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- An ancient tree from India is now thriving in groves where citrus trees once flourished in Florida, and could help provide the nation with renewable energy as a petroleum-alternative. (AP Video: Daniel Kozin) Read more here: apne.ws/LNDHmLK
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A well known hindi name of this tree is Karang (करंज)
In our childhood my grandmom used to apply this oil on our cracked heels I don't know scientifically but karang's home-made oil has ability to heal small wounds and cracks.
Its likely just slightly antiseptic, and hydrating, which are2 things you want on a cut to heal. Thats all neosporin does.
Lol what im from india this plant is literally find sometime in woods
@@RC-md2yx correct
@@skie6282 👍
@@RC-md2yx well yeah, what else is it going to be?
Pongamia tree (honge mara) is grown in every road in Bangalore. There is a song in Kannada(our native language) that speaks about the cool effect of this tree’s shade and how one can sleep blissfully under it even during scorching heat.
Even in Maharashtra
Maharashtra and Karnataka have countless cultural similarities
@@mangopudding5979 true, we are more close to Andhra and Mahrashtra than TN and Kerala which many like to push for some political agenda
Are the nuts edible? Why are they grown in india?
@@gregorymalchuk272 These are Nitrogen fixing. They make soil fertile.
The name of the tree is pongamia pinnata, for those having difficulty understanding
Thank you!
Can we call them 'Triffids' if the oil thing works out? Cause that's basically that story start in a nutshell.
Tamil name is "புங்கை மரம்" -pungai maram
*From the Tamil word "Pungai maram" deformed to Pongamia.*
Thanks 🙏🏾
Just need to silence the corn loby
And the sugarcane lobby also
Corn is Mayan and native culture ur a sick sick sick man
None of them make economic or thermodynamic sense except maybe sugar cane ethanol in Brazil. The one that holds promise is gasification of crop residue, forestry waste, sewage sludge, and municipal solid waste and conversion to liquid fuels though Fischer-Tropsch catalysis or the Methanol-to-Gasoline process. And possibly the conversion of lignin in pulp mill black liquor to gasoline.
Do you really think this will do that? How strange.
Heck, mesquite tree beans can make more ethanol per hectare than corn, and they do it while building unfarmable land into land that can support crops.
And you'll never hear about this tree again!
At least the tree made it to news headline. The guy who invented car with water fuel was just unlucky.
@@lanaistheneworange3013a shame, I love hydrogen engines!
Yeah because it'll never be better than oil.
How much will a barrel of this oil cost? In dollars, water, and labor.
There’s not enough land on Earth to supply enough oil for just America.
The Telugu name of this tree is "kaanuga cheTTu". Never heard that this has the potential to produce both food and fuel!!
In Kannada : ಹೊಂಗೆ ಮರ, హొంగె మర
కానుగ చెట్టు
Corn, soybean, wheat, sugarcane.. all produce both food and fuel.
This is BS.
We don't need BS, our culture is great already.
It is the best & only substitute to Petrol that is the main moat to this tree
I don't even know how to spell the name of the tree because it is not even mentioned in the title or description.
Excellent point!
Pongamia
@@TroyEagan Thankyou Troy.
@@TroyEagan It was also written on some bottles 0:58
...and in the subtitles
In Tamil Nadu state India this is called Pungai maram, it's very common in the streets and forests, gald to see them as the alternative fuel product❤🎉
Yep.
Ama
ஜவளகிரி என்னும் ஊரில் ஒரு சாமியார் சுமார் 40 வருடங்களுக்கு முன் சொன்னார் புங்க எண்ணெய் மீண்டும் உபயோகத்திற்கு வரும் என்று.
As an Indian, I really hope you guys succeed in your initiative. Hope this will bring new energy to mother earth. ❤
If they succeed, then you guys will start to complain about neo-colonialism even though you have this plant for thousands of years and didn't do any research yourself. lol.
@@Mady-lo6qb I like how you talk like you've personally helped humanity with your research, when in reality there's a high chance you haven't left your mum's basement yet.
It may be succesful, but there are so many cars in the world that you would need to cover huge territories of farmland with these trees, and this maybe main obscticle
@@Mady-lo6qbIt's already been done in India from like 10+years ago. Please do some research first
@@Mady-lo6qb All our research was burned down by invaders! Try to think positive for a second! Yes, we can do more research on our indigenous alternatives and we should...
I actually did my B Tech mechanical engineering thesis on this Karanja oil in a standard compression ignition engine (Diesel) it ran wonderfully and passed the PUC (pollution under control) standards
Awesome 👌 👏 👍
This tree grows in wild in Jharkhand, India. We call it Karanj or Koronjo. It's seed paste was used as lubricant in wheels of wooden Bullock-Cart.
The Indian Government tried their best to implement a mass plantation drive for Jatropha two decades ago but failed badly due to lack of processing, lack of awareness of farmers about the tree, etc
Now no one talks of it in India
Best luck
For fuel?
@@thewhatorwhyyes, biodiesel
I wondered what happened that that future wondercrop!
The problem was Jatropha is inedible for livestock like goats and cattle. So it failed.
The issue was there was no sucessful process plant or plan..it was just a theory .
But many claim otherwise and farmers lost huge amounts
Pungai maram (in Tamil) is widely seen on streets and grown for shade. Every street in Tamil Nadu (India) has 5-6 of these. Hope someone in India takes up this business model. 🎉
புங்கை மரம் மருத நிலத்தில் தண்ணீர் செல்வாக்கு உள்ள இடத்தில் தான் வளரும்
Pungai tree in TAMIL language is a well known medicinal value tree here in TAMILNADU ,INDIA. It's air is so pure that will heal the wounds.It's oil extracted from the seeds are so valuable
உண்மை
I really hope this works out!
Wen Europe stole America it worked out so don't worry it will
It wont.
It won't, it's just another short term scam to pull funds from investors. They'll be bankrupt in 3 years or less
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 Not with that attitude 😂
I always knew this tree has something special in it. Born and raised in Punjab, had these trees in my garden.
India.....you beauty 🙏🙏🙏
Scammer
This tree was in hour home we cut it down when we were expending our house.
Wow. One thing is certain it have great shade so you can relax and sleep under a t without any fan.
Scale it up and make it cheaper than crude oil....then you got yourself a deal.
The problem is it will never produce the volumes of oil society demands. It is off by orders of magnitude
@@andrewday3206 That, and we'll eventually run out of phosphorus if we keep growing plants in large monocultures
@@andrewday3206 I dont think most people realize we extract 100 million barrels of oil per day. Even if we start decarbonizing we will still use as much oil per day because people getting out of poverty will use more resources.
@@pin65371
100% agree with you. We need to take an all of the above approach to energy as we transition
Crude is cheap, the taxes are expensive
Grew up watching this tree every day in my yard. Feels like home and brings back memories whenever I look at this tree.
North india hindi name of this tree is karanj , my village have hundreds of this tree
Where's your village. Thks
@@kiedraana5625in North India as he said
Actually it's marathi not hindi ! करंज comes from word करंजी which is a delicacy in Maharashtra ! It's not north Indian.
@@SoulfoUniverse it could be in both marathi and hindi. It originated from the Sanskrit word Karanjah, in hindi we call it karanj.
@@nitishkr22 possible, but marathi is more closer to Sanskrit than Hindi. So more possibility of it being a marathi word
P.s (I can speak both Marathi and Hindi )
You will find these along the roads in Delhi and Bangalore. The sidewalks fill with dried fruit capsules in the ripening season.
In my local language from South India this tree is called 'HONGE' tree. ~20 years back I had heard about it being used to produce biodiesel fuel.
I hope the US can make it succeed.
*From the Tamil word "Pungai maram" deformed to Pongamia.*
@@okay9906 In kannada its "Honge mara", deformed to Pongamia. 😁
kannada is just 1600 years old language, a deformed version of Archaic Tamil + Prakrit. The root word is Tamil.
@@okay9906 You will find Kannada inscriptions all over the country and beyond, including in TamilNadu, but not Tamil.
In Tamil its called pongamaram. Well known and used in tamilnadu for shade and cooling.
True bro. Pungai maram. Pungai tree
Would honestly rather the feds subsidize efforts like this than subsidize yet more wind and solar. We need a variety of approaches, not just one big one, and this one doesn't involve insane amounts of additional mining that we aren't currently doing.
I am from India. There are a lot of pongamia trees in our locality. But we don't know about such potential of this trees. Thanks for the information
India is full of hidden treasures but people don’t wanna research it. So others will make money off of them instead. Then u will import it 😂
Let's see how this works. I remember news about Jatropha a few years back. Haven't heard from those again.
Yeah what happened to Jatropha?
@@amarsinghhembram4379 I dunno. They were tauting it as a new biofuel source. I guess it didn't took off else we'd hear about it. Ma still planted some tho. Apparently they use it for herbal stuff around here.
Any plant oil as energy source simply doesn't work.
Won't beat oil or nuclear ever.
Biofuels aren't economical.
Jatropha crashed , 2000 ha in Mozambique, never produced a litre ofbiofuel but used 100's of thousands of litres of diesel establishing.
I remember these trees growing up. They were all over the place
Punga maram in Tamil, Oil used for wound healing, skin diseases etc in Siddhaa for long. nice to hear about its use as bio fuel, but will it be sustainable and enough for the demand....
The oil from the seeds were used to lubricate the bullock cart and hand pulling reksha wheels
Name of the tree is.UNG (ഉങ്ങ്) in Malayalam.Its flower is small like pop cone.White in colour..
I made a bonsai with this plant ☘️
In kannada it's called " honge mara"
Next to the baniyan tree this has the best shade and really keeps the surrounding cool
In my native in tumkur we sell honge kai. Ha ha
@@karthikkumarg3486ಓಓಓ.. ನಮ್ ತುಮಕೂರು ಕಡೆಯವರು...ಓಓಓ😃
*From the Tamil word "Pungai maram" deformed to Pongamia.*
Pongamia is listed as an invasive species in the state of Queensland in Australia and is likely considered an invasive species in other parts of the country as well.
Only outside of its natural range. It is native to North Queensland and the Northern Territory.
Despite that, CSG companies planted a bunch of them in the Maranoa about 10 yr ago. Haven't heard about harvesting and processing though.
Everything not human is considered invasive in Australia, at this point.
Many great trees are invasive in Australia. Australia is really behind
@@jetpark3743 Must reiterate that Pongamia is not invasive within its natural range.
Karanj tree in hindi,its largely use for ayurvedic and yunani medicine from centuries.
Very cool to see this. Hopefully this works out.
In India JATROPA is the tree from which Bio Diesel is made . There is a farm near Kakinada . Research by DRDO .
Sab bata de. 🤦
I have seen the seeds of this tree countless times growing up but never knew the name of the tree. Thanks.
Is this crop better than other biofuels? Some comparisons would be useful.
The oil from this seed in raw form can be blended easily with diesel relative to other vegetable oils like Castor oil etc
Wow this pungai maram. I didnt about the oil content but the tree is a natural air cooler. Sleeping under this tree would be like heaven
Oh I like multi use resources that are green and regenerative. Didn't mention if it's drought/flood resistance being as the climate is changing with the weather patterns. Hate to see the oranges and grapefruit gone but the bees are happy it appears and that is a multi use industry in itself. Might be some interesting honey . Wow I looked for more information about the tree and it is a medicinal tree and the castings from the seed can be used as a organic fertilizer and natural pesticides.
It is not native to the US, and bringing in invasive species is dangerous.
In the wild it is a riparian tree that likes water, however it can go into dormancy during dry seasons and times of drought.
They are drought resistant..
Wow this sounds wonderful !
Adapt and overcome 🌱
This is very common tree found in Karnataka, its called Honge mara ( Honge tree). It absorbs and holds lot of water which keeps its surroundings really cool. Its seeds are used traditionally from centuries to make oil
Imagine huge tree farms that would be beautiful.
We have in India. It's called Karanje.
green deserts. Monocultures are just as bad to the eco system because these plants are not going to be native to the new area
Would be horrible it is as bad as palm trees.
@@rajaravivarmar Yes, and it is NOT native to the United States. Your point?
My bad. I thought the farms and the associated research are going to be done in India.
Let's do it! 🌿
It's native is Tamilnadu. Pungai tree
Native to Andhra Pradesh too
This grow very fast and provide great shelter in summer. I have these in my backyard.
Cool, but monocultures are very bad for the land. You need diversification to make healthy soil, or else this land will die and the trees cannot grow…
How, please explain
Monoculture is bad because a certain type of tree requires specific nutrients from the soil. When you only plant the same crops, they'll take the same nutrients every year eventually depleating the soil and making the trees compete.
Mixing other plants, for example beans, that actually have short lives would help bring more nitrogen into the soil when they die@mangopudding5979
@@teejayman215The tree mentioned in the video is a nitrogen fixator,belongs to the legume family
@@christophern762 fair, but I was just giving an example of why monoculture is bad. Planting only legumes would be bad too because they require the same nutrients overtime.
@@teejayman215yeah agree
அட நம்ம புங்கை மரம்❤
Super cool!
Gigantic tree I have had seen in my backyard until quite recently....in my area it is called "Karuaini" which literally means " something that tastes extremely bitter" in english ...
Any form of "mono-culture" is bad for the environment. Putting too many of one plant in an area kills off a lot of the biodiversity that the ground and plants need to properly function. Basically, this grove is damaging to the land and people who live nearby.
We've know this for quite a while now and yet, there are still farmers who haven't been paying attention and stubbornly "doing it the way my forefathers did".
Get with the program and learn how to farm WITHOUT destroying your own land. It is not that difficult. Your forefathers didn't know any better, but you can.
This form of farming is just so 20th century 🤭
Monoculture farming has only been a recent phenomena, people in the middle ages knew about biodiversity quite well, most forests in Europe are human made.
Why is that any different than the orchards of orange and grapefruit trees that were there before? Were the original fruit trees less "mono-culturely"?
@@wendellcoleman1137 Yes, ALL forms of mono-culture are now outdated. Since it is so easy to change this and do it properly, it should be a thing of the past asap.
Monoculture farming in 2024 is pure laziness.
@@SMGJohn Not really sure what this has to do with the video or with my reply, but the comparison is like apples and oranges.
In Medieval times there was room enough for doing things small-scale.
In the 21st century the World is a completely different place and we don't have the luxury of doing things "the old way".
We need to use the available (arable) land really very consciously. Both to optimize for production, but also to make sure farming doesn't destroy the natural World.
This is why having really huge fields (or orchards) of just one type of food can't be allowed any more as it damages everything around it way too much.
@@Junyo
The natural world is going to be destroyed regardless what you do because of the temperature increases, we are looking at a 8-10 degree warmer world by 2100, the absolute worst case scenario, and we really have no idea if 8 to 10 is reality, it could be higher as the oceans starts to boil, yes thats a real thing.
We need farmers like you
In other news, America aims its nukes at Indian farmlands
This was at my home garden for all these years!!!!!!
Takes more energy to harvest biofuels than they produce. That's why ethanol industry only survives thru govt subsidies, and isn't self-sustaining
Ethanol is a by product of livestock feed production. The distillation converts the starch into ethanol. The distillers grain fed to dairy Cattle reduces the mastic rate from 3% to 1%. Ethanol producers are not being given Federal subsidies at this point, but do pay a reduced Motor fuel tax. The subsidies were mostly in the 1980's for the early ethanol plants to prove the concept and to get gas stations to install additional pumps and underground storage tanks at existing gas stations.
One of the biggest costs is natural gas to dry out the distillers grains. Ethanol plants do sell at reduced costs wet distilled grains to local ranchers but it is a small amount as you need a lot of animals to consume it right away as it is full of nutrients and when wet is prone to bacteria and mold damage.
Truth be told, the fossil fuel industry and the nuclear industry also depend on government subsidies...some obvious, and others more hidden. Not sure access to Pongamia would ever provoke regional wars either.
@@SuperVlerik - people could always fight over cultivable land. After that, there's always the Mineshaft Gap.
@@manofsan Totally right. And they already fight over water
Am planting this - Karanj, along with several others like Neem etc. Looking forward to start making karanj oil in the future
Here we go again, Florida introducing a plant into the environment that is considered to be invasive.
Agreed it has a wide range through Australasia probably best to do it there. i can see how they cold be a problem the germinate and grow fast.
This looks promising. Let’s see how it will perform.
This will not due. You need millions of gallons and you have to wait for trees to mature, land . Maybe cooking oil sure. But transportation? Very doubtful.
Have a glass of orange juice and consider your remarks
@@TheChupacabra some people really have no sense of scale.
finally an actual renewable energy source
use LESS not DIFFERENT.
There is enough resources on earth for our need. Not for greed.
Gandhi
We have this tree in most outdoor spaces in Assam. Really is one of the reasons why indigenous trees and herbs are so important and rooted to cultures.
This would already be grown in mass quantities if even half of the claims are true.
If that was how economies worked, we'd all be driving electric cars fueled with free solar power everywhere already. Sadly that's not how economies work and corrup- i mean lobbying is a thing.
Everything new has to start somewhere.
pongamia pinnata (also known as karanj papdi tree in India)
*From the Tamil word "Pungai maram" deformed to Pongamia.*
Sounds better than middle Eastern oil... probably wouldn't have to make deals with terrorists to secure financial superiority 😅
Wow this is new to me. It is literally found every where here in north east India
How much water and energy does it take for this crip to produce fuel and food and on a very large scale?
Yes, what are the costs
Probably less water than for avocados.
@@evieshore3270Very less ...they can even survive drought
@@veersinghdhakad4238 interesting, thanks for the information.
These trees thrive on dry , arid conditions too
In Jharkhand, India, we still use oil from this plant for diyas during Diwali, a tradition that has been followed for ages. I'm sure foreigners will take a patent for this and profit from it.
How will climate affect the trees.
The additional Co2 and global warming will help them grow faster and stronger.
These are very hardy tropicals that can become dormant in times of stress.
This is called "PUNGAN" in our childhood days the seeds with cover is hanged to prevent diseases
Beware Big Corn. They're bad dudes.
After ten decades, we all forget it .
NASA did a study years ago on plant based biofuels.
Their conclusion.
If you used absolutely every bit of plant material down to the last blade of grass in the U.S., it would only replace about 25% of our current oil consumption.
Which would be far more then we need as we would all starve to death.
Tired of all the claims people including scientists make that are totally unfounded.
Not replacing, supplementing. Dependence on oil as our primary energy source feeds global conflict and tensions. Legitimate scientists make no claims...the media and below-average humans make ussumptions that were never claimed or implied.
You are totally unfounded. It's just about this tree
@@jetpark3743 they are unfounded?? Do you mean the poster is lost and no one knows where they are? Not sure any other way a person can be “unfounded.“
@@omegaz3393 legitimate scientist don’t make “while claims.“ only lay people and pseudoscientists jump to conclusions of extraordinary proportions. Besides, scientists are always trying to prove themselves wrong.
@@edmer68apparently you are not familiar with the usages of the word, unfounded. That’s hilarious, since you were trying to insult him. He of course did not say the person is unfounded. He said the claim, that a tree, could replace all petroleum consumption, is unfounded. This is an extremely typical, and common usage, of the word, “unfounded”. It means that their claim or theory or hypothesis that a tree can replace all petroleum consumption is a useless claim. An empty claim. A baseless assumption. Baseless and unfounded, considering that, studies already exist on replacing oil with biofuels. As he said, it would not even replace 25% of global petroleum consumption.
I remember this tree in my childhood I used to play with it seed
How can I grow my own Pongamia tree ?
zone 11 or higher
Growing up as a child in india this tree was everywhere, in schools and road side giving shade. But now,no where.
😆 So after how long you just finally found this, yeah ok.
You can't really be this dumb? This is some weird troll, right?
This tree grows wild and along the roadside without any limelight in India......and here they r doing something incredible with this seemingly useless tree.............great work.....❤
I think Palm Oil is the most productive tree for producing vegetable oil for vegetarians
Palm oil is poison. Unfortunately every manufactured and packaged food today contains palm oil, and people consume it on a large scale. Pure ignorance.
We are hearing the news from my childhood times
This won’t get off the ground. Production cost simply won’t be able to be made cheaper than drilling for oil. Dont believe the hype.
in india it's oil has been used for many years so it may not be just hype
@@arcaakvira it’s hype 100%. If this was true, tech would have been developed and used to exploit it given it’s been known about for a long time.
@@philliphutcheson4219 well greedy businessmen do exist and you need funding and team of experts to actually work on potential and if you need to work with team of experts then you need capital and capital come from either govt or private organisations and govt all around the world control by riches. So yeah , highly unlikely to be successful but doesn't mean tree has not the potential
@@Êíøw57 it’s also not energy dense as petroleum so there’s that as well.
@@arcaakvira and yet India imports almost all its fuel from abroad !!
Kanuga chettu in Telugu. I used to see Lots of trees in my childhood 🎉❤
Bio fuel is still environmentally unsound…. But media doesn’t tell us that because $$$$
How so, sports fan? Tell us what the media is afraid to. Links to some actual peer-reviewed studies would be awesome.
when i was a child, we used to play with those seeds in my school ground
DID YOU PUT THE SEEDS IN YOUR BELLY BUTTON?
Watch’Just Stop Oil’ come and spray paint the trees orange.
We have 3 three pongamia trees in our backyard.
This will end up in your food
Has been for centuries. Your point?
@@onlinesavant hasn’t been in our food. Mr clown
@@tvviewer4500 You obviously didn't LOOK AT the video. Food oil has been made from the tree for years. Your mother is the "clown" for having you.
Sounds like the jojoba story in the 80s
90s, 2000s
It’s making a comeback nowadays in Australia
These trees are everywhere in my home state
Absolute nonsense!! The scale of fossil fuel usage is so large it can never ever make any impact, even after you cover entire earth with these trees.
You have no Idea. Tell me how much oil this plantation produces per square kilometer. How much oil world Uses.
We can reduce the consumption of fossil fuel. We must...
I love trees. Mother Nature gives 🙏
snake oil scam alert😅
Invest now!!!!$$$$$
Greetings from Redondo Beach 🇺🇸🇺🇸Wonderful narration and nice video🌷🌷
Fascinating. Upward anf onward
We had this in our school books but the govt and private sector failed in making it a reality in Bharat.
I have many of these trees in my home in India but have never processed it. In my grandparents day they used to process it.
I am a Chemical engineer, I have been involved in its study during grad school. We had made a diesel look alike oil from it 😅
I have this tree in front of my house. The temperature under the tree is much cooler than outside.
These three are growing bigger, you should give them some large space
I pray that it is not another foreign invasive species as so many other helpful imports have been.