A NEW key Leatt design differentiator I should have talked more about is Leatt's BraceOn neck brace front and rear fitting system shown at 2:15 min. This unique design allows over and under Jersey fitting with a Leatt Neck Brace but most importantly it ensures the neck brace is secured flush onto the body protection at two different points. Leatt recommends to use the Flipfit functions when using the neck brace and NOT to insert it into the slots. The fitment is better with the Flipfit. The neck brace fits firmly on top of these two slots located in the front and rear of the Leatt 5.5 body protector so in the case of impact no unnecessary forces are applied to the brace. This ensures the brace maintains alignment and proper position for the upmost protection. To flip the panels, on the front, put some pressure on the plate and it will pop down. For the back, remove the padding under the plate where the Thoracic would rest and put pressure on the plate there and it will also pop down. There are two straps on the side of the shoulders on the Leatt 5.5 body protection that help maintain Neck brace stability and positioning as well. In the future I'll look at providing a video that demonstrates how the Leatt 5.5 body protection is paired with the low profile Leatt GPX 6.5 Carbon neck brace and discuss the fitment, adjustment and show you how it works and review how we feel about it after riding and testing the entire Leatt protective system.
This weekend I had the opportunity to test all of the gear in a high speed over the handle bars crash that could easily caused serious shoulder and body injury. If I wasn't wearing Leatt I'm sure I would of been injured badly. The impact I took to my right shoulder after flying over the bars was significant and at high speed. If I was wearing my previous gear I'm not sure everything would of stayed in place during the crash to protect the key area that I contacted. I.e shoulder and elbows. Thank you Leatt for keeping me safe and healthy!
Absolutely great video! I’m 42 and about to get into riding again. I think you made my mind up on this chest protector. I have to work on mondays and Need to try and eliminate as many injuries as possible. Take care!
Great to hear I can tell you from experience from a week ago I had a very serious crash Flew Over the handlebars and without this protection I wouldn't have made it to work on Monday.
Hey, been a while since I've caught any of your vids. You do a great job of geting the facts out and giving sound reasoning for what lead you to make the choices.. I heard the reference to the flopy dangles too🤣🤣🤣 The riding jacket I have ,the pads always seem to be in the wrong spot so i was looking for somthing to wear underneath that would hold the pads where they belong. And remove the jacket pads.. Afraid a Klim jacket may be the same and create the above mentioned 🤣🤣🤣 Looks like Leiat might be a winner. Thanks for the review
Whoa..Moscow! Awesome. Thanks and not sure if you saw but I recently posted Leatts neck brace that goes with this chest protector. Thanks for watching. Braaap
Shoulder pads came off 1st race. Didn’t crash or go down. Lost both of them. Tried to get new shoulder pads. No luck from Leatt. I didn’t want them for free. They don’t have any for sale. Only reason I bought this chest protector was for the shoulder pads.
This might be my choice for my torso protection needs. Have tried 3 different torso protectors that were pure name brand junk. But I have yet to buy anything Leatt that wasn't what I expected.
@@ktmdays Been there amigo, cracked rib racing and its high end pain. I actually tried an ice bath submersion and that helped a lot but its a bit sadistic but works
My problem is I got a ktm 500 excf with almost 60hp and I had a continental tkc 80 tire with no nobbies and the hill.i went up was rocks and roots and slid out on me I wasnt going fast just hit hard dress for the slide not the ride 🏍🏍🏍🏍
Thanks for the review. That is the protector I want but am worried about the fit of the neck brace. I have an Alpinestar Bionic neck brace. Do you know if the AStar neck brace will fit in that Leatt protector? Thanks
I just bought the Leatt 5.5 body protector from Revzilla. It looks similar yet different. I suppose it's an all-in-one of all the separate pieces. The elbows are attached with zips and have hard plastic shells. I'm pretty confident of the protection for the chest and back. Less so about the shoulders and elbows. I may wear additional soft armour under those spots in a compression suit. Or just remove the shoulders and elbows entirely. I'm not sure if the shoulders are removable. Are yours removable?
Really good review, and editing work! I'm in the market for new protection as well and was also looking at the Leatt 5.5 as I like the rib protection. I just picked up a Klim tactical shirt with poron protection but it's a little hot and I feel vulnerable in the rib area. I've tried on the 5.5 and like it, but what about hydration pack over it? will that start to be restrictive?
Hey thank you, I've been using it with a USWE large backpack with integrated hydration and it works fantastic. The rib protection is the best I've see out of all of the armors. Most are CE level 1 not 2 and dont cover as much area and considering I need to hit the treadmill more that's needed. Thanks for watching, Wadz
Will the atlas neck brace work with the 5.5 shoulder pad dose it have better rib protection then the a10 alpine stars my rib are on bad shape looking for better protection
Hi Eric, a few reasons. Body suits I find trap more heat and running hot is something I do really easily so keeping cool is important and not easy with all this gear in a jacket/suit. The elbows don't always fit like I'd like them to. Some people have long arms, shorter arms so the design doesn't always fit the way I'd like. Also the elbow pads are superior when you purchase them separately in my opinion.
How good does the jacket protect the lower back and tailbone? The last one is not that important, since I don't have a tial anymore, but the lower back is the difference between wheelchair or walking
The back of protector is impact CE approval, CE EN 1621-2, Level 2 and comes down about 4 inches shy of waist approximately but I also wear the Leatt CE kidney belt which offers coverage and protection. Hope this helps.
I’m super close to pulling the trigger on this but have concerns about the fit. I’m a little lanky at 6’4” and 185lbs. How tall are you if you don’t mind me asking?
Very good video mate! Can I ask you what do you usually wear underneath the protection and over it? Specially when it’s hot. I ride mostly in Spain. I bought a full jacket from Revit (Proteus) and I’m cooking on it. Thanks!
Cheers thanks for watching. Generally I wear a very thin 1-2 mil almost silky smooth material that acts as a barrier much like what hockey players wear under their protective armour. Over is my MX jersey. I will say on very hot days I have worn a cooling vest that is soaked in icy cold water
Also I will say that leatt protection saved me from Serious injury this weekend my front wheel slid off the trail into a culvert and I went flying over the handlebars and landing on my shoulder and violently rolling out. If I wasn't wearing all of this body protection I don't think I would have walked away without Serious injury. In my next video I'll show viewers the area I wiped out.
Thinking about getting a 5.5 for the same reasons over the all-in-one jacket. I do want flank protection, but do you find the flank protection on the 5.5 gets in the way at all (it looks fairly bulky)?
Not at all. In the video I should of adjusted it more to demonstrate how snug it was. I ride a lot of single track and if it got in my way that would be a show stopper.
@@WADZUP I'm reading that the shoulder pads don't stay in place, slide around, poorly designed strap attaching from pad to shoulder. Exposure to not being in the right place when needed. Many state they have to sue the strap to shoulder area to stop the pad from falling out of place. Thank you👍
@@erick5327 The reason I asked is I'm extremely OCD and picky with how gear feels, functions, fits and if it doesn't work, feel, fit and protect perfectly I obsess about it. That being said the comment about the strap on the shoulder pads thats a fair point but a easy remedy. The straps purpose essential is to ensure they sit correctly in the right spot for optional protection. Obviously lots of people are different sizes i.e wide shoulder narrow etc so the reason for the cam buckle strap design is to accommodate different sjoulder sizes but I also found that when I set the straps of the shoulder pads to the correct positioning for my shoulders that the buckle would slip slide slightly out of adjustment but it was a super easy fix to ensure it stayed perfectly in place so Im surprised so many people whine about something so easy to make right. I used some hockey tape and simply wrapped the buckle so it can't back off. Basically set it and forget it. The strap really only has about a max of 4 inches of possible length adjustment but I didn't want the strap ever moving. Ive crashed many of times and with this uber easy gear tweek it's totally fine. Essentially a 1 minute mod. I'd buy these again in a heart beat, they have save me in some serious over the bar wipe outs, Im awesome at crashing lol! Thanks for watching hope this helps.
@@WADZUP Awesome conversation, I really appreciate you taking the time out to discuss this topic. Your original video review on this 5.5hd really got my attention, very well done! I too have my fair share of crashes(ugh) and shoulder bumping trees during single tracking so I needed to understand what this issue was about, especially with the price of the unit. The rib and back protection has been well received by all reviews. Now with this conversation, your thorough explanation and knowledge of the product and easy remedy makes me comfortable to make the purchase. Thank you for your time and consideration, best wishes👍
Pros, the armour bends and quality is good. I do like the better shoulder adjustments. Cons, Price $500, warmer, heavier, thicker, I personally don't prefer their vertical zipper exposure spots in the front. Less rib flank protection. CE2 everywhere. Getting it off and on it a bit of dance lol. Here's a review you may of scene. ruclips.net/video/JkF0xbw-TxA/видео.html
Hi Robert, thanks for watching. Not sure what you wear but I spent a long time trying on all the top manufactures and really researching the finer details. Leatt protective gear means business and is no joke. What are you wearing today or what have you looked at in the past? Cheers!
@@WADZUP got Alpinestars body armour, ce2 back chest arm elbow, mostly use that one, got another amour jacket, but no chest protector... really like the look of this one though... looks better then the ones I got... thanks for letting us take a look... makes shopping easier ;)
@@robertfleet1729 which Alpinestars do you ride with? I had my eye on Alpinstars for a 3 years and tried on a few models. I just refused to replace my body suit with another piece of protection that I was unhappy with just for the sack of replacing my armor that was not getting job done. I knew there had to be something on the market and glad I kept looking until I found Leatts gear.
@@WADZUP Bionic Teck Pro, n I love it, but after watching Motobro and his crash where he gets stuck in the window of that car and gets jacked for life, I want stomach and kidney protection that is better then this belt... I also have a jacket/shirt armor combo that I love, Forcefeild, ce2 every where, no chest though, but worn it as a shirt a few times... going to get a new one soon, makes me feel safer... so many guys here get killed from the other drivers, 4 this week from red lights only.( Toronto Canada) don't care as much pavement as much as that big smash... thanks again, always a pleasure seeing things in real life... everything looks good on the shelf lol... ride well brother
I've never had good luck with (all in ones suits), they design them to fit everyone and I have long arms, wide shoulders and smaller chest so Im a bit of a gumpy.
@@WADZUP Plus with the "all in one" version the zippers that tie the elbow guards to the chest armor STINK! The zippers on mine have broken, they are too small with tiny teeth that bind and the stretch material is thin and has torn along the zipper from taking them off.
If the area your riding in is hot and you run hot defiantly get a pair of Klims XC lite pants. They vent better than all the pants I’ve ridden in and keep air flowing really well.
![ROSÉ(로제) - APT. (Band VER.) (With. 이영지) [더 시즌즈-이영지의 레인보우] | KBS 241129 방송](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/IW8qaemx74g/mqdefault.jpg)
A NEW key Leatt design differentiator I should have talked more about is Leatt's BraceOn neck brace front and rear fitting system shown at 2:15 min.
This unique design allows over and under Jersey fitting with a Leatt Neck Brace but most importantly it ensures the neck brace is secured flush onto the body protection at two different points. Leatt recommends to use the Flipfit functions when using the neck brace and NOT to insert it into the slots. The fitment is better with the Flipfit. The neck brace fits firmly on top of these two slots located in the front and rear of the Leatt 5.5 body protector so in the case of impact no unnecessary forces are applied to the brace. This ensures the brace maintains alignment and proper position for the upmost protection. To flip the panels, on the front, put some pressure on the plate and it will pop down. For the back, remove the padding under the plate where the Thoracic would rest and put pressure on the plate there and it will also pop down.
There are two straps on the side of the shoulders on the Leatt 5.5 body protection that help maintain Neck brace stability and positioning as well.
In the future I'll look at providing a video that demonstrates how the Leatt 5.5 body protection is paired with the low profile Leatt GPX 6.5 Carbon neck brace and discuss the fitment, adjustment and show you how it works and review how we feel about it after riding and testing the entire Leatt protective system.
This weekend I had the opportunity to test all of the gear in a high speed over the handle bars crash that could easily caused serious shoulder and body injury. If I wasn't wearing Leatt I'm sure I would of been injured badly. The impact I took to my right shoulder after flying over the bars was significant and at high speed. If I was wearing my previous gear I'm not sure everything would of stayed in place during the crash to protect the key area that I contacted. I.e shoulder and elbows. Thank you Leatt for keeping me safe and healthy!
Thx for the review, can you also post up in your video description the sizes you chose, what your body measurements are and how well they fit?
Better review than the online store ones I've been watching.
Absolutely great video! I’m 42 and about to get into riding again. I think you made my mind up on this chest protector. I have to work on mondays and Need to try and eliminate as many injuries as possible. Take care!
Great to hear I can tell you from experience from a week ago I had a very serious crash Flew Over the handlebars and without this protection I wouldn't have made it to work on Monday.
Also would you be interested in seeing a review of the neck brace and how it works with the body armour?
WADZ UP Absolutely, that would be awesome. Thank you!
Hey, been a while since I've caught any of your vids. You do a great job of geting the facts out and giving sound reasoning for what lead you to make the choices.. I heard the reference to the flopy dangles too🤣🤣🤣
The riding jacket I have ,the pads always seem to be in the wrong spot so i was looking for somthing to wear underneath that would hold the pads where they belong. And remove the jacket pads.. Afraid a Klim jacket may be the same and create the above mentioned 🤣🤣🤣
Looks like Leiat might be a winner.
Thanks for the review
Thanks for good advice! Hello from Moscow! 🤝
Whoa..Moscow! Awesome. Thanks and not sure if you saw but I recently posted Leatts neck brace that goes with this chest protector. Thanks for watching. Braaap
Very well done video Good info without jibber jabber. Keep up the good work!!
Hey thx, i just got the neck brace so stay tune for more.
Shoulder pads came off 1st race. Didn’t crash or go down. Lost both of them. Tried to get new shoulder pads. No luck from Leatt. I didn’t want them for free. They don’t have any for sale. Only reason I bought this chest protector was for the shoulder pads.
very good video, informative and to the point. I now know what ill be saving up for.
Thanks if you'd be interested in seeing the leatt neck brace and or helmet let me know Be safe. WADZ
This might be my choice for my torso protection needs. Have tried 3 different torso protectors that were pure name brand junk. But I have yet to buy anything Leatt that wasn't what I expected.
It’s still my go to unit and has saved me in a few spectacular endo crashes.
love your vids.. you just earned a new subscriber. cheers from Italy!
Grazie! Thanks!
@@WADZUP grazie a te amico
"i'm really good at crashing" haha - i'm awesome at it too
Ya Im a bit of a gumby somedays lol
I cant sneeze.right now my ribs hurt so much
@@ktmdays Been there amigo, cracked rib racing and its high end pain. I actually tried an ice bath submersion and that helped a lot but its a bit sadistic but works
My problem is I got a ktm 500 excf with almost 60hp and I had a continental tkc 80 tire with no nobbies and the hill.i went up was rocks and roots and slid out on me I wasnt going fast just hit hard dress for the slide not the ride 🏍🏍🏍🏍
Well I just ordered one sold my a10 I hope my atlas neck brace will work they want 380 bucks for leaht brace
Thanks for the review. That is the protector I want but am worried about the fit of the neck brace. I have an Alpinestar Bionic neck brace. Do you know if the AStar neck brace will fit in that Leatt protector? Thanks
Sorry no I don’t know.
I just bought the Leatt 5.5 body protector from Revzilla. It looks similar yet different. I suppose it's an all-in-one of all the separate pieces. The elbows are attached with zips and have hard plastic shells. I'm pretty confident of the protection for the chest and back. Less so about the shoulders and elbows. I may wear additional soft armour under those spots in a compression suit. Or just remove the shoulders and elbows entirely. I'm not sure if the shoulders are removable. Are yours removable?
I believe so but to be honest with you I’ve never tried and be 100% with my answer I need to double check
Really good review, and editing work! I'm in the market for new protection as well and was also looking at the Leatt 5.5 as I like the rib protection. I just picked up a Klim tactical shirt with poron protection but it's a little hot and I feel vulnerable in the rib area. I've tried on the 5.5 and like it, but what about hydration pack over it? will that start to be restrictive?
Hey thank you, I've been using it with a USWE large backpack with integrated hydration and it works fantastic. The rib protection is the best I've see out of all of the armors. Most are CE level 1 not 2 and dont cover as much area and considering I need to hit the treadmill more that's needed. Thanks for watching, Wadz
Detailed review. Thanks.
Glad you found it helpful. Leatt has great gear!
Will the atlas neck brace work with the 5.5 shoulder pad dose it have better rib protection then the a10 alpine stars my rib are on bad shape looking for better protection
Absolutely
Why did you go with these separate pieces instead of the Leatt 5.5 Jacket? Are there advantages to the pieces? more comfort??? Thanks GREAT REVIEW!
Hi Eric, a few reasons. Body suits I find trap more heat and running hot is something I do really easily so keeping cool is important and not easy with all this gear in a jacket/suit. The elbows don't always fit like I'd like them to. Some people have long arms, shorter arms so the design doesn't always fit the way I'd like. Also the elbow pads are superior when you purchase them separately in my opinion.
Which size is the HD Pro you are wearing?
out of curiosity, what size is the chest protector and elbow pads you got and how tall are you and weight?
Large chest, Largr elbows. 6'1 185 lbs.
WADZ UP thank you ✌️
@@DirtZen hey man I'm sorry the elbow pads are a large not mediums.
WADZ UP thanks for the update. I ordered the large anyways too be safe.
@@DirtZen Cool, dodged one there, Phew. I'm hoping to be testing the Leatt neck brace soon if that's of interest?
How good does the jacket protect the lower back and tailbone? The last one is not that important, since I don't have a tial anymore, but the lower back is the difference between wheelchair or walking
The back of protector is impact CE approval, CE EN 1621-2, Level 2 and comes down about 4 inches shy of waist approximately but I also wear the Leatt CE kidney belt which offers coverage and protection. Hope this helps.
Thank you for the excelent review. I have a question, Can the ribs protection be detached ?
Bring back boxy roost deflectors 🎉
1:17 There is a huge gap where the scapula is (back corner of shoulder).
I’m super close to pulling the trigger on this but have concerns about the fit. I’m a little lanky at 6’4” and 185lbs. How tall are you if you don’t mind me asking?
I'm 6'1 185 pounds.
Great Video Loved It Thanks! Do you ware knee braces?
Thanks, would you like to see Leatt Neck brace? Yes I do use knee braces.
Very good video mate! Can I ask you what do you usually wear underneath the protection and over it? Specially when it’s hot. I ride mostly in Spain. I bought a full jacket from Revit (Proteus) and I’m cooking on it. Thanks!
Cheers thanks for watching. Generally I wear a very thin 1-2 mil almost silky smooth material that acts as a barrier much like what hockey players wear under their protective armour. Over is my MX jersey. I will say on very hot days I have worn a cooling vest that is soaked in icy cold water
@@WADZUP Thanks for your answer. Very helpful!
@@TeoRomera your welcome 🙏
Do you wear a MX jersey over it or under it ?
100% optional
Also I will say that leatt protection saved me from Serious injury this weekend my front wheel slid off the trail into a culvert and I went flying over the handlebars and landing on my shoulder and violently rolling out. If I wasn't wearing all of this body protection I don't think I would have walked away without Serious injury. In my next video I'll show viewers the area I wiped out.
Thinking about getting a 5.5 for the same reasons over the all-in-one jacket. I do want flank protection, but do you find the flank protection on the 5.5 gets in the way at all (it looks fairly bulky)?
Not at all. In the video I should of adjusted it more to demonstrate how snug it was. I ride a lot of single track and if it got in my way that would be a show stopper.
@@WADZUP Thanks!
I'll ever see your new video again.
Question:. Lots of reviews complaint about the poorly designed shoulder pads. I'm so close to buying, but the reviews on this issue are concerning.
What specifically are the complaints? Can you be more specific?
@@WADZUP I'm reading that the shoulder pads don't stay in place, slide around, poorly designed strap attaching from pad to shoulder. Exposure to not being in the right place when needed. Many state they have to sue the strap to shoulder area to stop the pad from falling out of place. Thank you👍
@@erick5327 The reason I asked is I'm extremely OCD and picky with how gear feels, functions, fits and if it doesn't work, feel, fit and protect perfectly I obsess about it. That being said the comment about the strap on the shoulder pads thats a fair point but a easy remedy. The straps purpose essential is to ensure they sit correctly in the right spot for optional protection. Obviously lots of people are different sizes i.e wide shoulder narrow etc so the reason for the cam buckle strap design is to accommodate different sjoulder sizes but I also found that when I set the straps of the shoulder pads to the correct positioning for my shoulders that the buckle would slip slide slightly out of adjustment but it was a super easy fix to ensure it stayed perfectly in place so Im surprised so many people whine about something so easy to make right. I used some hockey tape and simply wrapped the buckle so it can't back off. Basically set it and forget it. The strap really only has about a max of 4 inches of possible length adjustment but I didn't want the strap ever moving. Ive crashed many of times and with this uber easy gear tweek it's totally fine. Essentially a 1 minute mod. I'd buy these again in a heart beat, they have save me in some serious over the bar wipe outs, Im awesome at crashing lol! Thanks for watching hope this helps.
@@WADZUP Awesome conversation, I really appreciate you taking the time out to discuss this topic. Your original video review on this 5.5hd really got my attention, very well done! I too have my fair share of crashes(ugh) and shoulder bumping trees during single tracking so I needed to understand what this issue was about, especially with the price of the unit. The rib and back protection has been well received by all reviews. Now with this conversation, your thorough explanation and knowledge of the product and easy remedy makes me comfortable to make the purchase. Thank you for your time and consideration, best wishes👍
@@erick5327 Cheers amigo! Ride safe
Good vid...The very thing I need!
Thanks T, you'll be a gladiator in no time flat! Looking forward to ripping single track soon.
Hi, what boots do you recommend?
Depends on protection level and budget needs but you may find this helpful as a starting point ruclips.net/video/oQci7MWGXlE/видео.html
What neck protector is recommended for this product?
I also did a Leatt Neck brace review which is recommended with this
What doy you think about the Forcefiel Ex harmour in comparison?
Pros, the armour bends and quality is good. I do like the better shoulder adjustments. Cons, Price $500, warmer, heavier, thicker, I personally don't prefer their vertical zipper exposure spots in the front. Less rib flank protection. CE2 everywhere. Getting it off and on it a bit of dance lol. Here's a review you may of scene. ruclips.net/video/JkF0xbw-TxA/видео.html
Why didn’t you do this review a few months ago, I got a different brand,lol
Sorry bud, thx for watching
I really like it, looks like a great design...
Hi Robert, thanks for watching. Not sure what you wear but I spent a long time trying on all the top manufactures and really researching the finer details. Leatt protective gear means business and is no joke. What are you wearing today or what have you looked at in the past? Cheers!
@@WADZUP got Alpinestars body armour, ce2 back chest arm elbow, mostly use that one, got another amour jacket, but no chest protector... really like the look of this one though... looks better then the ones I got... thanks for letting us take a look... makes shopping easier ;)
@@robertfleet1729 which Alpinestars do you ride with? I had my eye on Alpinstars for a 3 years and tried on a few models. I just refused to replace my body suit with another piece of protection that I was unhappy with just for the sack of replacing my armor that was not getting job done. I knew there had to be something on the market and glad I kept looking until I found Leatts gear.
@@WADZUP Bionic Teck Pro, n I love it, but after watching Motobro and his crash where he gets stuck in the window of that car and gets jacked for life, I want stomach and kidney protection that is better then this belt... I also have a jacket/shirt armor combo that I love, Forcefeild, ce2 every where, no chest though, but worn it as a shirt a few times... going to get a new one soon, makes me feel safer... so many guys here get killed from the other drivers, 4 this week from red lights only.( Toronto Canada) don't care as much pavement as much as that big smash... thanks again, always a pleasure seeing things in real life... everything looks good on the shelf lol... ride well brother
@@robertfleet1729 Great points and glad I could help. Thanks for the feedback.
Did you try the all in one leatt 5.5 instead of 3 leatt pieces?
I've never had good luck with (all in ones suits), they design them to fit everyone and I have long arms, wide shoulders and smaller chest so Im a bit of a gumpy.
@@WADZUP lol ;)
@@WADZUP Plus with the "all in one" version the zippers that tie the elbow guards to the chest armor STINK! The zippers on mine have broken, they are too small with tiny teeth that bind and the stretch material is thin and has torn along the zipper from taking them off.
@@CapCityDC so so true. Great points.
Can this protect me from hard punches and kicks so can I use bike armor for sparring
No
Is it pronounced "lee-at" or "leet". Ive heard it said both ways on RUclips.
The best protection? is not to ride. nah Just kidding .
and the pants?
Haven’t tested Leatt but I’ve found Klim to be the best.
If the area your riding in is hot and you run hot defiantly get a pair of Klims XC lite pants. They vent better than all the pants I’ve ridden in and keep air flowing really well.