308 Winchester Norma Bondstrike Ballistics Gel Ammo Test

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    308 Winchester Norma Bondstrike 180 grain ammo ballistics gel test using a Ruger American with 22 inch barrel.
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    All shots are fired from a distance of 100 yards to encompass the majority of common real world hunting scenarios.
    I will be shooting into 10% ballistics gel from www.clearballi... that has been calibrated to meet the FBI ballistics testing protocol.
    While ballistics gel isn’t an exact proxy for big game, small game, predators or defensive situations, it does provide a repeatable medium through which to test various bullets and ammunitions against each other.
    With each type of ammo tested I collect data on bullet penetration depth, bullet weight retention, bullet expansion, muzzle velocity and impact velocity.
    For reference, bullet expansion is measured at the widest expanded point using a calibrated Frankford Arsenal Digital Caliper.
    Bullet weight is measured using a calibrated Frankford Arsenal Digital Scale after having removed as much ballistics gel as possible from the expanded bullets.
    Muzzle velocity is measured using a Garmin Xero C1 Pro Chronograph. Impact velocity is a mathematical estimate.
    My goal with these ballistics gel tests is to provide hunters like you and I with the most objective information possible to help us make the best choice for our particular hunting situation.
    The results of these tests are my own and I cannot guarantee the same or similar performance on your part. The views and opinions expressed in this video are solely my own.
    All videos are filmed in a safe and controlled environment on a private range with all applicable safety precautions by a trained professional.

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  • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
    @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Месяц назад +4

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  • @realityawayfromreality3494
    @realityawayfromreality3494 Месяц назад +19

    Great job Mason. On this historic day, you are still getting plenty of views for a pretty good.308 load. At least a few of us seem to still have our priorities straight.

  • @oncall21
    @oncall21 Месяц назад +7

    I like this ammo. Norma stuff is good. Thanks for sharing Mason. 🙏

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Месяц назад +1

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  • @markwarnberg9504
    @markwarnberg9504 6 дней назад

    The 308 is one of the most popular hunting caliber here in Sweden. This Norma 180g bullet is marketed for the Long Range Moose Hunters up in the Northern part of the country where the shots can be out at 300 meters of more.
    NORMA is known for it´s consistant quality.

  • @alexanderjump5225
    @alexanderjump5225 Месяц назад +5

    I love the videos great job. I hope you make some 300 win mag tests with Norma ammo soon.

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Месяц назад +1

      Glad to be of service and thanks for your support! Please share my videos, it’s a big help!
      300 WM is on the way when I can get to it

  • @HookLineSinger
    @HookLineSinger Месяц назад +2

    Midway ran these for less than $25/box recently!! Shot very well in my Kimber 84M Hunter Pro.

  • @zacharyharwell351
    @zacharyharwell351 Месяц назад +2

    I think 24" is the factory test standard because it's a fairly decent "do all" length for most calibers; from 6mm Creedmoor to 300 win mag, and all calibers in between, 24" is a good baseline for all of them. It'll bring down the big boys like 338 and the 300s, and it'll bring up the 308s and 6.5 creedmoor, intermediate types, but it'll never bring a caliber up/down enough that velocity differences are unnoticable
    That's my theory anyway: it gives a good industry standard for comparing individual loads within a certain cartridge, as well as a good standard for comparing across cartridges, without favoring one or the other extreme too intensely.

  • @rustyshackleford2723
    @rustyshackleford2723 2 дня назад

    I use the the 300wm version of this. 1/2 moa for me. Great factory load

  • @thebssamurai
    @thebssamurai Месяц назад +1

    G'day mate....Just a quick suggestion that you might need to do a bit more research if you are planning to use this 180gr bullet in this particular 308 rifle for long range hunting on large game. Looking at your velocity data and the suggested minimum impact velocity of 2200fps for the Bondstrike Bullet for designed terminal performance you will be at the minimum velocity around 250-300m. The goodnews is that this is a great bullet for traditional hunting ranges inside 300m and the old 308 has more than enough juice to get the job done. It is a very popular choice for moose her in Norway in this exact calibre and bullet weight and is rated highly for being effective.

  • @edwardabrams4972
    @edwardabrams4972 Месяц назад +4

    Norma makes great ammo🙌 They made Weatherby ammo for many years!

  • @MattC-eo6ep
    @MattC-eo6ep Месяц назад +2

    Thanks for the test video Mason!

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Месяц назад

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  • @user-eg8hb8xt3j
    @user-eg8hb8xt3j Месяц назад +2

    I’ve had great luck with Norma and their brass is awesome .

  • @larso1785
    @larso1785 19 дней назад

    If you hand load. You can load some slow loads to simolate long ranges.

  • @RexPeterson-wo4vq
    @RexPeterson-wo4vq Месяц назад +3

    I personally love the Norma ammo packaging due to the lack of rattle of they are in your Fanny pack or pocket for some backup ammo while back country hunting.

  • @scotttuttle3513
    @scotttuttle3513 Месяц назад +6

    Shot Norma Tipstrike through my 270 the other day and averaged 25 fps higher than the label.

  • @Logan-py8we
    @Logan-py8we 27 дней назад +1

    Love your videos

  • @MrYour1Fan
    @MrYour1Fan 27 дней назад

    Great video 👍🏼 I would like to see the longer range shots

  • @aldo1334
    @aldo1334 21 день назад

    Very intersting video. Waiting to see the groupings.
    Your barrel doesn't seem to be slow as the difference in velocity with what is announced is what we can expect from a 22" barrel.
    Silencers usually increase speeds of about 2%.
    As far as i know, these bullets have the best BC amongst hunting cartridges in .308. with G1 = 0.615

    • @AlbertDurant-zk4wj
      @AlbertDurant-zk4wj 8 дней назад

      "308. avec G1 = 0,615" , The reality is quite different : G1 approximately 530

  • @fiskmasadventures
    @fiskmasadventures 9 дней назад

    I would recommend you to take a look at the Norma Ecostrike - it's lead-free (nickel-coated copper) and gives a deep penetration. I use it for moose here in Sweden (I use 30-06), it works great in my experience.

  • @omf2007
    @omf2007 Месяц назад

    I think Norma overall makes some good ammo and components. Thank you for the review!

  • @mattdg1981
    @mattdg1981 Месяц назад

    I love their 38spl match ammo. That stuff is as hot as a 9mm fmj. Very accurate.

  • @ejsocci2630
    @ejsocci2630 Месяц назад +2

    Thanks for another great video,

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Месяц назад

      Glad to be of service and thanks for your support! Please share my videos, it’s a big help!

  • @hinkrakagaming5532
    @hinkrakagaming5532 25 дней назад

    In Sweden, 6.5mm 156gn bullets are very common for moose they definitely do the job even at that size

  • @a.joegevara3519
    @a.joegevara3519 Месяц назад +2

    Found this on sale a few months ago, I picked up 100 rounds!

  • @BrettBrown-ln7bz
    @BrettBrown-ln7bz Месяц назад +1

    I’ve heard that 24” is the SAAMI standard barrel length for velocity testing, that’s why is standard across multiple manufacturers. Makes for easier comparison between brands and calibers.

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Месяц назад

      You’re correct, and for 24” to be used when 22” and shorter is what is actually in popular use for a given caliber by orders of magnitude is disingenuous at best.

    • @can.ehdrian4987
      @can.ehdrian4987 Месяц назад

      @@masonoutdoors_masonleatherWouldn’t supressed relults also make a difference?

  • @Accuracy1st
    @Accuracy1st Месяц назад +2

    I just got 2 cases of this ammo last week in 308, a case of 30-06, and I should have a case of 7RemMag tomorrow if FedEx gets their act together. I got 2 cases of 300WM 2 months ago.
    Shot the 308 and 30-06 this weekend. The -06 stuff shoots good in a Tikka and my Rem 700 with a Brux barrel, MOA or less.
    In all of my 308s this ammo only shot well in 2:
    Tikka T3x with a Brux barrel
    Tikka T3x stainless superlite Ember (factory rifle)
    In both of these I'm very pleased with 0.7 and less with 3, 4, and 5 shot groups
    Both of my Benchmark barrels did not do well at all with 2" groups. My Tikka stainless superlite Hunter was also around 2"
    I did not clock any of these yet. I usually see which rifle likes it best, then clock it in those.
    In my Tikka stainless T3x 300WM, the Bondstrike shoots 0.5MOA almost every time I shoot it. Sometimes less sometimes more, but not over MOA yet.

  • @Gearsofchocolate
    @Gearsofchocolate Месяц назад +1

    Think you should do some testing on Nosler Accubonds and partitions. Love your videos!

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Месяц назад

      Glad to be of service and thanks for your support! Please share my videos, it’s a big help!

  • @scottythebody0811
    @scottythebody0811 Месяц назад +1

    Good stuff! Thanks for posting.

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Месяц назад

      Glad to be of service and thanks for your support! Please share my videos, it’s a big help!

  • @DocOmaley98
    @DocOmaley98 Месяц назад +2

    I love your videos. Could you do the normal eco-strike ammo at some point please.

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Месяц назад +1

      Glad to be of service and thanks for your support! Please share my videos, it’s a big help!
      Yes I will do eco-strike.

  • @ryanupchurch9683
    @ryanupchurch9683 Месяц назад +1

    Norma is my favorite factory ammo. I do my the swirrocco and khalahri

  • @gunsandcommissions
    @gunsandcommissions Месяц назад +2

    For the algo and quality content.

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Месяц назад

      Glad to be of service and thanks for your support! Please share my videos, it’s a big help!

  • @18wheelsandadozen6shooters5
    @18wheelsandadozen6shooters5 Месяц назад

    Norma does a pretty good job! I’m hoping to pick up some for hand loads

  • @canuckmagnum5841
    @canuckmagnum5841 Месяц назад

    The fastest expanding bonded round I have ever experienced was the Nosler Long Range Accubonds, I shot a Bull Moose at 90 yards with 190gr ABLR in 300 Win Mag, Muzzle Velocity Chrono'd at 3000 fps. So it hit very, very hard. It knocked the moose off his feet and it could not get back up, bullet was retrieved in the moose at only 65grs... ouch. Not sure I'd use those at close range anymore.

  • @corporalpunish6089
    @corporalpunish6089 Месяц назад +3

    The thumbnail was captioned “Disgusting!”. I was expecting a bad review but seems like you liked it.

  • @hungryyeti2548
    @hungryyeti2548 Месяц назад +2

    Norma …. Great components brass bullets etc , just plain kickass ammo

  • @johanneslaxell6641
    @johanneslaxell6641 22 дня назад

    As fast/slow barrels is "off limits" 🤭, I wonder how suppressed or non-suppressed impact on muzzle velocity and alike. I know that Sako Sweden have a video where they shoot same ammo in same barrel both suppressed and not, don't remember if they had chronograph but adding the suppressor changed the behaviour of the ammo completely. Was like another gun overall 🤔...

  • @Yetified_Mayhem
    @Yetified_Mayhem Месяц назад +1

    Great test!

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Месяц назад

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  • @hakokiri3627
    @hakokiri3627 17 часов назад

    I'd be curious to see how the bullet would do at 30-30 velocitys...

  • @keithreese9636
    @keithreese9636 Месяц назад +1

    Should be great for larger Whitetail bucks in rut, think I'll stick with Federal Fusion though for everyday deer and hogs. Great job thanks a lot

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Месяц назад +1

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    • @keithreese9636
      @keithreese9636 Месяц назад

      @@masonoutdoors_masonleather Already have & will continue to do so, thanks for so many great reviews

  • @tripplebeards3427
    @tripplebeards3427 Месяц назад +1

    Wicked round!

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Месяц назад

      Absolutely!

    • @tripplebeards3427
      @tripplebeards3427 Месяц назад

      @@masonoutdoors_masonleather The massive expansion and quick energy transfer reminds me of the original swift scirroccos. Swift made them with a thicker jacket years later so they wouldn’t expand as violent calling them the 2’s. Imo it wrecked a great bullet. I shot a black bear with the original with. 180 grain version in 300 RUM. It dropped it in its tracks and never moved. The trauma and wound was phenomenal. This one reminds me of it.

  • @andrewwilson561
    @andrewwilson561 Месяц назад

    Price on this ammo is the best part. Would make a great self defense ammo as well.

  • @rainworks5155
    @rainworks5155 Месяц назад +3

    Hey mason, what is the most deeply penetrating .308 ammunition you have tested? Is it the terminal ascent or another load? Thanks in advance. Ps. Great test as usual

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Месяц назад +1

      Federal Powershok Copper 150gr, over 3 feet of penetration. I just filmed it, video won’t be out for a while.

    • @rainworks5155
      @rainworks5155 Месяц назад +1

      @@masonoutdoors_masonleather awesome! Look forward to seeing it!

  • @lylewalters909
    @lylewalters909 Месяц назад

    I wish you would test the EVO strike bullet. I'm so hoping it test well because I've already bought a boc of 308. im also looking at the 300win mag in the EVO strike bullet.

  • @heinrichstoltz1356
    @heinrichstoltz1356 Месяц назад

    A question: does the Garmin have a feature like the Labradar to measure actual velocities at pre set distances?

  • @johnandrosemarywyatt977
    @johnandrosemarywyatt977 Месяц назад +1

    I think it is more designed for longer ranges, hence the big expansion at closer ranges

  • @timsmith5837
    @timsmith5837 Месяц назад +1

    Very nice, thank you

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Месяц назад

      Glad to be of service and thanks for your support! Please share my videos, it’s a big help!

  • @craigcowling865
    @craigcowling865 Месяц назад +2

    Great reviews.
    Any chance for 16” 6.5 Grendel content?

  • @desertrat79
    @desertrat79 Месяц назад +1

    I'm one of the "slow" barrel guys. But only when you test with a Tikka.

  • @curteaton
    @curteaton Месяц назад +1

    Fun Fact bullets decelerate at around 40 g's due to atmospheric friction. They slow down violently.

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Месяц назад

      G

    • @aldo1334
      @aldo1334 21 день назад

      Right. It can even exceed 130 G's for a fast bullet with low B.C (222 Rem 50gr BC= 0.185 for example)

  • @BuckIt00
    @BuckIt00 Месяц назад

    Love the videos. As a hunter . This is what im looking for. Not to be RUclips expert just a friendly suggestion. Check out tools and target channel. He test a lot of pistole ammo. Hands down the best looking gel on RUclips. He maybe able to help with getting more life and more clear views in gel. Either way I look forward to more testing to come.

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Месяц назад +1

      Glad to be of service and thanks for your support! Please share my videos, it’s a big help!
      Regarding gel clarity, rifle rounds leave A LOT more carbon residue, lead and copper shards etc in the gel as opposed to far lower velocity pistol rounds. I get several good melts before the color changes detrimentally and replace them altogether at a certain point.

    • @BuckIt00
      @BuckIt00 Месяц назад

      @@masonoutdoors_masonleather how do I reach out to you about making me a sling for one of my rifles

  • @johnnorman7708
    @johnnorman7708 Месяц назад

    The slow barrel thing can be a fact. I recall an article where several rifles were tested and there were some eyebrow raising numbers between a 16" and 26" .30-30. The 26" rifle might have bee the slow barrel with the newer 16" being decidedly a fast barrel. They was a difference but not as much as you would have expected. It happens. Tolerance and twist rates along with freebore all can conspire to make a barrel one way or the other and defy averages a bit.

  • @chrisgabbert658
    @chrisgabbert658 Месяц назад

    👍😊 I’m 308 22” barrel with 11:1 twist and most standard rifles have 12:1 so yes you can have a slow barrel.

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Месяц назад +2

      I understand a barrel can be “slow,” I also understand this one isn’t, just like I explained objectively.

    • @John_Redcorn_
      @John_Redcorn_ Месяц назад +2

      Nah, most 30 cal rifles are 1 :10 twist. But that has nothing to do with speed tho

  • @billhendon1017
    @billhendon1017 Месяц назад +1

    Cool ! I like norma ammo

  • @markwarnberg9504
    @markwarnberg9504 6 дней назад

    A 22" barrle with a 6" silencer on a hunting rifle?

  • @mr.mr.3301
    @mr.mr.3301 Месяц назад

    They performed well but weight retention seems low for bonded as well.

  • @josephspicer7555
    @josephspicer7555 27 дней назад

    Mason, have you ever tried your Silencerco 46M in the shorter configuration? If so, how do you like it?

  • @thebajablaster222
    @thebajablaster222 Месяц назад +1

    Yee Yee this what I like to see

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Месяц назад

      Glad to be of service and thanks for your support! Please share my videos, it’s a big help!

  • @rynerenzaglia8006
    @rynerenzaglia8006 Месяц назад

    Seems like a solid loading

  • @bushveldhunting7980
    @bushveldhunting7980 Месяц назад

    Hoping to see the 165gr Accubonds and Norma Oryx.

  • @johnnorman7708
    @johnnorman7708 Месяц назад

    Seems like a fairly decent load. I don't like the "need" to be pushing the super long range aspect for marketing hype. Seems like that is now a big thing across the board for most ammo manufacturers on many of their premium offerings.

  • @jimscallen6452
    @jimscallen6452 Месяц назад

    Masson,
    I would love to see you use a AR in your ammo tests.

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Месяц назад

      This channel is primarily focused on hunting oriented information, I use popular hunting rifles for given calibers. ARs aren’t really in the purview of the channel.

  • @mrmatt7210
    @mrmatt7210 Месяц назад

    I would love to know how much the tipped part of this bullet weighs.
    With this being said, 91% weight retention may be even more impressive when you consider the loss of this part of the bullet is to be expected.

  • @beardmantactical6066
    @beardmantactical6066 Месяц назад

    Hey @Masonleather will you also be testing the Hornady hunter percision with the 178 eldx ?

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Месяц назад +1

      Yes, already filmed, it’s qued up

    • @beardmantactical6066
      @beardmantactical6066 Месяц назад

      @masonleather hell ya iv use that round a few times and taken 2 deer with it and it was vary effective punched clean through both shoulders on one and hammered the hell out of both lungs on another but never seen it used on balistic jell

  • @whiskeymike8010
    @whiskeymike8010 Месяц назад +1

    Nice 🎉 Video 📹 👌 Wound Track and Presentation are Good 👍 Looking to Me 😎🎸🎶 I'll have to check out this ammunition in the future!

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Месяц назад +1

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  • @sandybarnett7502
    @sandybarnett7502 Месяц назад

    Consider velocity loss at 300 and 400 yards

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Месяц назад +2

      I have to stop somewhere or every video would be an hour long

    • @williamgaines9784
      @williamgaines9784 Месяц назад

      ​@@masonoutdoors_masonleather many ballistic calculators are free on the web. Anyone can take your velocity data and the mfg.'s ballistic coefficient data and "run the numbers" to many ranges. You always state that what you have is specific to your rifle and location, so each person's results will vary. Too many folks want to make you dance to their tune, but would never put a dime in your cup.
      You keep doing it your way, and I will keep watching.
      👍👍

  • @ДимитърМаринов-н4м
    @ДимитърМаринов-н4м Месяц назад

    Can you do tests on the federal fusion tipped for me this is the best bullet ever made. This is a renewed bullet with plastic inflation and a higher ballistic coefficient

  • @chriswigington1572
    @chriswigington1572 Месяц назад

    What is a slow barrel? Genuinely curious?

    • @moa.333
      @moa.333 Месяц назад

      A slow barrel refers to twist rate of the barrel. More lands and grooves for every foot of barrel creates faster spin of the bullet. Less lands and grooves per foot of barrel makes the bullet spin slower. Bullet weight determines which spin rate is best. Fast twist best for heavy bullets. Slow twist for light bullets.

    • @chriswigington1572
      @chriswigington1572 Месяц назад

      @@moa.333 oh ok I appreciate it I understand twist rate I just never heard it called a slow barrel..

    • @bobborlog1677
      @bobborlog1677 Месяц назад +2

      Also I've seen the same gun just different examples shoot faster or slower on average. Its like engines off the assembly line that just make a bit more or less horse power

    • @timjones8184
      @timjones8184 Месяц назад

      Some barel

    • @timjones8184
      @timjones8184 Месяц назад +1

      Some barrels shoot slower than others. Not all barrels are identical. Slightly larger or smaller.

  • @chriswigington1572
    @chriswigington1572 Месяц назад

    Have y’all seen the guy that’s copied masons short videos? “What your hunting ammo says about you” it’s almost cringe!

  • @eskimoreloader
    @eskimoreloader Месяц назад

    308 is slow caliber

  • @graywind4326
    @graywind4326 Месяц назад

    Why the disgusting in video title??

  • @user-sd8tz9dt8t
    @user-sd8tz9dt8t Месяц назад

    I have been interested in this load thanks for testing it.

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  Месяц назад +1

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  • @Logan-py8we
    @Logan-py8we 27 дней назад +1

    Love your videos

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      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  27 дней назад

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