Maybe the hightowers in Oldtown not in Kingslanding (which is partly targaryens like Aegon and Aemon) plus greens in small council, Just like Baratheons in Dragonstone/Kingslanding and Baratheons in Stormlands.
No they aren’t. The greens are essentially Targaryen branch with Hightowers and whomever else. Reassess the story please. Just because the Hightower color marks the Greens doesn’t make them The Greens.
Starks were badass since the war of first men and children of the forest, they nearly wiped out the whole children of forest race, they fcked up white walkers and build 700 tall wall, they not only defended and defeated andals who defeated all of the westeros but also invaded andals and massacre them for chopping the old woods. Starks were the first ones to see the worth of aegon. Man these men really are hardcore and brutal and powerful since the era of first men
@@lee-daniels ‘Arryn women’, or that Arryn woman? You know Lysa Arryn is a Tully by birth, Aemma Arryn did not have a long, thin neck. Whom else are you referring to? Simple question.
Yes .whose hair will sit the on iron throne ? Otto Hightower and Ser Corley Velarion both wanted their grandchildren and their offspring s to sit on the iron throne
@@mehedi8331 at this very moment, otto already won and corlys already surrender. He have been lost too much, all his children, his wife, and his granchild not actually his. If not because baela, he will stay in driftmark finding his own succesor
@@Lynn-jg7hxaccording to book rhaena and baela do survive but dont know, show is trying to push rhaena for sheepstealer so maybe their fate will change too?
@@rampagepotato4307 its the fight between rhaenyra and daemon vs allicent and otto. Jace, aemond and aegon just strangled there because hightower dumbnuts
Yeah, but as liege lord, The Tyrell’s can summon Tarly’s etc and crush the Hightowers. So, who cares if they mount higher tally’s than their liege lord. They still will need to submit, and since they did not, got defeated. Yes, the Greens lost - line wiped out, Lord Baratheon crushed, and the Hightowers brought down a couple of notches.
@@mimmaYOOO Not ‘could be’, you are, dead wrong. Try “Wiki ice and fire”(cliff notes to quickly reference before posting stuff like this). Read Aegon’s Conquest 🤷🏽♂️
@@nostalgic90s54 I think they might make him the commander of the winter wolves. Just to give him more screen time since he was so popular among the fans.
The Starks are huge. In ASOIAF Rob takes 20,000 south with little to no prep time to try and save his father and sisters when in reality he had the capability to take upwards to 70,000-100,000 if he had of waited. Cregan Stark is a legendary king also, hope he develops in the show
What kind of fucking dumb you are ???? Starks never reach over 50,000 fighting men along with their bannermen. And these are total army strength of their....some percentage of these army must stay in North for defending castles, strongholds, towns and villages from criminal and aggressive wildling or some traitors also.....North must be biggest region of Westeros, but they haven't much population as compare to their size.....its just like Russia or Canada........so if any of Stark Lord will think march towards south, 40,000-45,000 is maximum range of their military strength.... please read books and facts, then talk about this...
the north cannot at all get 70-100,000 men, even with plenty of prep time torrhen stark only managed to get 30,000, the north is huge but is sparsely populated
In the end of the war the Starks are the most powerful house since all other houses are destroyed. Cregan could take the throne but he just killed some people, make some asjustments and got out 😅
@@levia9349 Tyrells and Hightowers lost all their army in the war, and money and political power doesnt mean nothing when its about the throne. Otherwise the bravosi Bank would be the Westeros King. Starks and Baratheons had zero political power in their Rebellion and even so took the throne.
@@edumalafaia11 Tyrell's don't lose any of their army during the war if you remember, the Lord is a baby and his mother chooses not to declare the Tyrell host for anyone
@@SantomPh Robb and Jon had full beards and they were both only like 17 at the start of the show. Robb is 15 and already has a beard in the books. Cregan is too cleanshaven for a Northerner, and specially for a Stark.
Everything she needed? You honestly think Syrax can go up against Vhagar? Meleys is a lot bigger than Syrax and look what happened. If Rhaenyra tried to take on Aemond she wouldn't stand a chance, so I wouldn't say she has everything.
@@truetory6231at the begining she had everything to crush greens, just like daenerys, the problem is westeros have been a peacefull since jaeherys till viserys, if you want to be a good queen, you dont just masacre legacy that previous rulers try so hard to keep. Vhagar is biggest problem for sure but greens only have vhagar and sunfyre (tessarion and dreamfyre not battle ready) while blacks have caraxes, meleys, moondancer, syrax, arrax. Greens have hightower but blacks have velaryon. If they go on all out war, black will win for sure but the cost will be high. Caraxes definetly can solo vhagar, meleys and specially rhaenys is worn out when they decide to fight vhagar. If you remember daemon have been thinking about getting new rider since start by mentioning seasmoke, silver wing, vermithor etc which mean if going all out he will get those dragon a riders first but rhaenyra dont want that.
@@Lynn-jg7hx Yeah, she had three of the strongest houses on her side, the riverlands were just a question of time and she had three big dragons (caraxes, meleys and syrax) who together could have overpowered Vhagar and sunfyre plus moondancer and arrax who can still wreck armies and castles fighting alongside their own armies.
@truetory6231 she had Maelys and Syrax and Caraxes at the beginning. Had she done what Dawmon told her to do, attack all at once she would have won the first week...
Rhaneyra had 3 of the 5 most powerful houses on her side, more dragons and the greatest dragonrider and warrior as her husband and still manged to f it up.
Does she? Her line ends up ruling the kingdom after DOTD up until the end of GOT. Sounds like she made a great sacrifice to ensure her line lives on in power.
House Tully should’ve been on this list. Their Lord Paramour controls the Riverlands. Control over the Riverlands is the key to the war in the dance of dragons. As these houses together could form a ton of banners that could secure entry for the Starks to Kings Landing. Ultimately the Riverlands could also repel the Lannisters and subsequently surround Kings Landing, with Velaryons cutting off trade to Kings Landing and subsequently starving them, the Starks would be all that is necessary to take Kings Landing. Vhagar would be no threat against Caraxes, Syrax, and Moon Dancer and at this point in the war Sunfyre is out for the count and Dreamfyre though claimed by Helaena will never be ridden during the dance according to the book. Aemond is on his own and his dragon is too slow to and outnumbered for a head on fight against Rhaenyra. House Tully should’ve been on this list.
Ok, the army numbers are completely wrong. The stormlands can gather around 35-40k man the north and the vale around 45k, and the lannisters around 50k and the hightowers can gather more than 20 thousand
That’s literally the numbers of game of thrones time line 💀😭😭😭 The numbers wouldn’t be this high 300 years in the past… (and the video is referring to the amount of soldiers each faction is committing, probably not their entire force since it takes too long to fully mobilize)
where are you getting these numbers from? Are you referencing the direct levies the houses mentioned can raise without calling their banners? Each region can raise the following, maximum number of fighting men: Stormlands- LP House Baratheon 30k Reach- LP House Tyrell 100k Westerlands- LP House Lannister 60k Riverlands- LP House Tully 45k North- LP House Stark 45K Vale- LP House Arryn 40k Crownlands- ‘LP’ House Targaryen 25-30K Iron Islands- LP House Greyjoy 10-15K
Not quite sure about Lannisters and Hightowers. Lannisters are Lords Paramount of Westerlands, and can muster up to 30-40 thousand soldiers, as demonstrated by Tywin. As for Hightowers, I would say they are probably the strongest noble house of the Reach, but they are only one of the chief vassals of Tyrells, on par in status with Tarly, Florent, Rowan, etc. So yeah, in terms of pure resources, manpower and status, Lannisters beat out Hightowers. Do take into consideration that I am talking about purely House Hightower, and the not the Greens.
The stark king gathered 30000 men to confront Aegon while the Lannister gathered 25000 also at dance Cregan stark assembled 8000-20000 men without counting the 2000 that he sent at the beginning of the war while the Lannister Lord gathered 8000
@@حمودالمطيري-و9ر Gardner & Lannister Host was the greatest ever gathered in Westerosi History when they marched against Aegon I. 100k strong.....60K Reach and 40k Westernlands under the Kinga Mern Gardner and Loren Lannister.
He's just making shit up. The velaryons were rich and had naval power, but their main strength were their dragons. Also, the hightowers are not that strong, though they are the strongest house in westeros that aren't lord paramount over their region in terms of land power, and it should be noted that the velaryons were the richest at this point of time because of corlys and his voyages to assahi
The starks should be a place higher and hightower at 3rd the starks could've conquered all westeros in the book maybe the velaryons are really stronger but hightower?
Numbers are all over the place here, house Arryn as a single house can’t have 10-20000 men but if they summon their vassals they’ll have well over 30000, the hightowers likely have the strongest army any single house can call upon but that’s still probably only 12’000 men, house stark by itself can probably get no more than 5-6000, the Lannister’s could probably get 8-10000 with the resources available to swell their ranks with sellswords
Velaryons power pretty much died with the demise of the targaryens, but house hightower is still strong we didn t see much of them in GoT because they werent relevant to the story
Hightowers are still one of the richest and most powerful during the main series. Their lord is old and kind of crazy so didnt really take part in the WOT5K. He married his family all over the Reach, Margaerys mothers is Alerie Hightower. The Velaryons are pretty much bums tho, they lost all their money because Alyn Oakenfist invested in the Rogare Bank which got fucked over badly.
House Velaryon just vanishing never made sense to me.. but I kinda accepted it as they needed to go so the greyjoys could play their part in the current events... Otherwise greyjoys would have never been relevant if there exists a greater naval power to stop them.
@@oscarbautista4156 the greyjoys arent even the greatest naval power after the velaryons, The Redwynes are. They don't just disappear, Alyn bankrupts them because he's an up-jumped bastard who didn't really understand money and invested into the rogares bank which went ass up after a few years. They still exist in the current story, they lost any remaining relevance when Aerys was killed, they're just vassals of Stannis for now, Aurane Velaryon is the only one who can make big plans to restore them to glory but most likely he's just going to be a pirate king and get stomped by the free cities.
@@oscarbautista4156 they lost much of their power after the dance and the common years. especially after the doom of the targaryen dynasty. their whole fleet was blown up in the battle at blackwater Bay
Not despite the onset of winter, but because of the onset of winter. the winter wolves march to spare their families from having to feed them, and they fight to die in battle.
I know Targaryen have married into almost every house, but house Baratheon was founded by Orys Baratheon who is said to be Aegon the conquerors, half brother and a ton of Targaryens have married into their family and the Velaryons are the only other people besides the Targaryen, who have the blood of old Valeria and a lot of Targaryen of married into their family too. There actually were other houses that had came from Targaryen and Targaryen bastards, but they died off long before a song of ice and fire
@@florianbarkowski6856 and house blackFyre and there’s one more but I’m forgetting their name but I know there sigil is a yellow backing with skulls on it. I believe because I know the one you mentioned is like a light blue with crabs in the blackfyre is a red backing with a black dragon
@@Fictionfactory555 you mean house Qoherys, but they're an extinct house. Celtigar sigil is a bunch of red crabs on a white field, blackfyre one is true though. Also baratheon is kinda valyrian.
Hmmm, based on the military strength they provided, I would say here is a more definitive list: 1. House Velaryon who controls the Velaryon fleet said to be comprised of 60 war galleys, 30 longships, and more than 100 great cogs. If a standard War Galley can house about 60 fighting men (not including the 200 rowers) then the galleys alone would give around 3,600 men. A standard longship could house about 30 men so that is another 900 men while a single great cog could house around 60 men so that is an additional 6,000. 2. House Stark who managed to assemble around 12,000 men which included the 2,000 Winter Wolves. 3. House Arryn managed to assemble 9,500 men composed of 1,500 knights and 8,000 men-at-arms. 4. House Lannister managed to raise 8,000 men comprised of 1,000 knights and 7,000 archers and men-at-arms. 5. House Baratheon managed to raise around 7,000 men composed of 6,000 men raised against the Vulture King and 600 knights and 400 foot men during the Battle of the Kingsroad. 6. House Hightower alone (who itself is not a Great House and can only depend on the man power provided by Oldtown) was able to raise 6,000 men composed of 1000 knights, 1000 archers, 3000 men-at-arms, and 1000 untrained foot men. It should also be noted that House Hightower had the capacity to field more men as Lyonel Hightower initially wanted to raise another army and continue the war but was persuaded against the idea when Samantha Tarly agreed to marry him (that or the end of Tyrell Neutrality who proactively ordered the Hightowers to cease fighting) Other houses included: 7. House Tully who managed to field 6,000 men along with the other Riverlords. 8. House Rowan who managed to provided the largest bulk of the 6,000 men raised along side houses Caswell and Merryweather in support of Queen Rhaenyra Targaryen. 9. House Greyjoy who possessed around 100 longships (about 3,000 men) to raid and plunder Lannisport. 10. House Peake who along with House Roxton and Bourney managed to field around 3,000 men to join the 6,000 men from House Hightower during the Battle of Tumbleton.
Their power declined, it was corlys velaryon voyages which had made them richer and marrying into the royal family brought them dragons and considerable influence. By the end of war they lost their dragons their money and hence they have been reduced to a minor vessel of the baratheons.
They’d been diminished. Their castle(with many treasures) burned by the Triarchy during the Dance of the Dragons. You may want to actually read ahead about what happens in The Dance before posing such questions?
They support Stannis but still not that relevant at least compared to Davos, Melisandre or the Florents. Their most prominent character in the ASOIAF books is a bastard male who looked like Rhaegar.
they are still a powerful house under the Tyrells and even have the largest bank in Westeros. Mace Tyrell's wife is a Hightower and a lot of his army is Hightower men. The reason we don't hear much from them is that their lord Lyonel is always in the Hightower with his daughter and hasn't come down in a long time, leaving affairs to his younger relatives. The Lord Commander of the Kingsguard at the time of Robert's Rebellion was Ser Gerold Hightower, the White Bull
numbers are a fallacy which is why George doesn't really count them that often when his armies are mentioned. The Lannisters don't even have a 60k population let alone an army. The populations increase with time as there is an extended period of relative peace in Westeros from the time of the end of the First Blackfyre Rebellion all the way to Aegon V's rule. The ironborn stopped raiding the west coast, the Reach continued to prosper and the trade with the east improved with King Viserys II even introducing Lyseni blood into the family via his wife.
There have been a total of six houses to have the blood of old Valeria, or that were created by Targaryens out of those three still remain up until the events of a song of ice and fire the Targaryens, Velaryons, and the Baratheons and they are all major houses for most of their existence the other three houses that died out were house Blackfire, Qoherys, and Celtigar
That's not true, lots of Targaryen princesses married to noble houses and their bloodline continued to this day, the most important one is house Martel, other examples are house corbray, plum, penrose and... And the house celtigar has not died out and still remains.
House Celtigar still exists, they fought in the Blackwater but were forced to surrender to Joffery. Other houses have had Targaryens marry into it, including House Hightower (not who you think), House Martell, and even House Plumm has a "drop of dragon blood" in it. House Blackfyre is extinct in the male line, but George keeps saying that. The female line might still exist, or some descendant of Daemon Blackfyre's many sons.
If you go by the fact that Targaryen's and Velaryon's are kin, Stark's would probably be #1 since in the end Cregan rules as King Regant for Rhaenyra's last sons Aegon III and Viserys II.
the lord died very recently just before Viserys, leaving his wife and three month old son as rulers of Highgarden. The Lady, acting as regent for her son refused to declare for either side, allowing House Hightower to run their side of the war, but also for Reach Houses loyal to the blacks to fight them in return.
Green 3 dragons 35k soldiers reasonable navy Baratheon 6k Lannisters 9k + Navy Hightower 20K + Navy Black 7 dragons 31k soldiers huge navy Arryns 15k Starks 16k Valeryons huge navy
riverlords basically won the war for blacks, they in fishfeed killing lannister, in butcher ball killing ser criston crown army, in 2nd battle of tumbleton killing hightower and kingsroad killing baratheon
Didn’t the Lannisters have the means to mobilise 30k to 60k troops including all of their vassal houses? Just like what Tywin told Jaime that they can muster a whole lot more troops.
@@theforestverse yeah but even so, remember the Reynes of Castamere. The Lannisters by themselves under Tywin gathered above 12k troops with the other reserves split between Tywins brothers. So in actual fact, the Lannisters alone can field over 20-25k troops. But I suspect with Jason, he has 10k troops with the remaining Lannister troops with his other brothers and cousins. In total, I hope the Lannisters can muster 60k troops like how Tywin and Jaime could.
Team black was lot of advantages in the war to wipe the greens , black had more army's, more dragons, great naval support and Daemon . But all of them die because of the queens fuking idea
I wonder how come the Hightowers managed to overcome their liege lords the Tyrells. I get that they are the green's family, but in terms of soldiers and economy they should be subservient to Highgarden right?
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With all the evil and crazy stuff the other houses do it's nice to have a clear "good house" that's way more reasonable than the other houses
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Ahh starks that we always though as main character when first watch GoT
Hightowers are not supporters for the greens, they are the greens.
Lol exactly 😂😂😂
Maybe the hightowers in Oldtown not in Kingslanding (which is partly targaryens like Aegon and Aemon) plus greens in small council, Just like Baratheons in Dragonstone/Kingslanding and Baratheons in Stormlands.
Ormund hightower is the lord of Hightower in Oldtown.
No they aren’t. The greens are essentially Targaryen branch with Hightowers and whomever else. Reassess the story please. Just because the Hightower color marks the Greens doesn’t make them The Greens.
@@m.williams4971idk how it happens in the books but the hightowers kinda just gor kicked off the council by aemond in the show
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Starks being badasses since 200 years ago
Starks were badass since the war of first men and children of the forest, they nearly wiped out the whole children of forest race, they fcked up white walkers and build 700 tall wall, they not only defended and defeated andals who defeated all of the westeros but also invaded andals and massacre them for chopping the old woods. Starks were the first ones to see the worth of aegon. Man these men really are hardcore and brutal and powerful since the era of first men
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@@obethlama6415 King Theon STark is the Goat
The Targaryens are newcomers Johnny Come-Lately to the Seven Kingdoms while House Stark has ruled the biggest Kingdom for ~9000 years
That's what you get in the north.
Putting Jacaerys face when talking about House Velaryon is pretty funny though
Careful, he looks strong
Yes he looks "Strong"😅
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They put Jace when they mentioned the blacks JUST after talking about the Velaryons Lol.
“I will have your tongue”
The Arryn woman has a neck like Carraxes.
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I kinda like her tho she's hot
@@lee-daniels ‘Arryn women’, or that Arryn woman? You know Lysa Arryn is a Tully by birth, Aemma Arryn did not have a long, thin neck. Whom else are you referring to? Simple question.
"Will you goad me, child?" - Jeyne Arryn
Basically it's not Targeryan civil war
It's just Hightower vs Velaryon
Yes .whose hair will sit the on iron throne ?
Otto Hightower and Ser Corley Velarion both wanted their grandchildren and their offspring s to sit on the iron throne
@@mehedi8331 at this very moment, otto already won and corlys already surrender. He have been lost too much, all his children, his wife, and his granchild not actually his. If not because baela, he will stay in driftmark finding his own succesor
@@Lynn-jg7hxaccording to book rhaena and baela do survive but dont know, show is trying to push rhaena for sheepstealer so maybe their fate will change too?
Nah it's the trueborn son of the previous King vs. a daughter and her bastards.
@@rampagepotato4307 its the fight between rhaenyra and daemon vs allicent and otto. Jace, aemond and aegon just strangled there because hightower dumbnuts
House hightower is crazy, imagine being richer and stronger than your own over lords (Tyrells)
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Yeah, but as liege lord, The Tyrell’s can summon Tarly’s etc and crush the Hightowers. So, who cares if they mount higher tally’s than their liege lord. They still will need to submit, and since they did not, got defeated. Yes, the Greens lost - line wiped out, Lord Baratheon crushed, and the Hightowers brought down a couple of notches.
@@mimmaYOOO Not ‘could be’, you are, dead wrong. Try “Wiki ice and fire”(cliff notes to quickly reference before posting stuff like this). Read Aegon’s Conquest 🤷🏽♂️
Not for long
@AyushSinha-u4l thats all irrelevant after the dance of dragon
I want more Cregan Stark .. but unfortunately we all shall wait till „hour of the Wolf“😏
Me too. He seems like a cool character
what is the hour of the wolf?
@@krishnanaudiyal2778 it’s the end of Dance of the Dragon, when Cregan Stark enters King’s Landing end rules as Hand of the King for a short time
He only arrives during the hour of the wolf we might see glimpses though if the makers do well
@@nostalgic90s54 I think they might make him the commander of the winter wolves.
Just to give him more screen time since he was so popular among the fans.
The Starks are huge. In ASOIAF Rob takes 20,000 south with little to no prep time to try and save his father and sisters when in reality he had the capability to take upwards to 70,000-100,000 if he had of waited. Cregan Stark is a legendary king also, hope he develops in the show
What kind of fucking dumb you are ???? Starks never reach over 50,000 fighting men along with their bannermen. And these are total army strength of their....some percentage of these army must stay in North for defending castles, strongholds, towns and villages from criminal and aggressive wildling or some traitors also.....North must be biggest region of Westeros, but they haven't much population as compare to their size.....its just like Russia or Canada........so if any of Stark Lord will think march towards south, 40,000-45,000 is maximum range of their military strength.... please read books and facts, then talk about this...
The North is the largest land wise. Combined with the elements, they're impossible to fully conquer.
the north cannot at all get 70-100,000 men, even with plenty of prep time torrhen stark only managed to get 30,000, the north is huge but is sparsely populated
@@v_cpt-phasma_v689 George RR Martin says otherwise so I’d rather listen to him than you. In short notice Rob Stark raises 20,000 men
@@v_cpt-phasma_v689 why are you talking about Torrhen stark for? No where is he mentioned
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In the end of the war the Starks are the most powerful house since all other houses are destroyed. Cregan could take the throne but he just killed some people, make some asjustments and got out 😅
No it's probably high towers and Tyrells.
@@levia9349then why the one marching on kings landing and enforcing the hour of the wolf is the starks and not the Hightowers or Tyrells?
@@zleo1211 I'm not only talking about Army size, I'm talking about wealth and political power.
@@levia9349 Tyrells and Hightowers lost all their army in the war, and money and political power doesnt mean nothing when its about the throne. Otherwise the bravosi Bank would be the Westeros King. Starks and Baratheons had zero political power in their Rebellion and even so took the throne.
@@edumalafaia11 Tyrell's don't lose any of their army during the war if you remember, the Lord is a baby and his mother chooses not to declare the Tyrell host for anyone
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Feels weird to see a Stark without a beard…
Cregan is very young, not old enough to have a beard. Ironically he will live long enough to be called Old Man of the North
@@SantomPh Robb and Jon had full beards and they were both only like 17 at the start of the show. Robb is 15 and already has a beard in the books. Cregan is too cleanshaven for a Northerner, and specially for a Stark.
Rhaenyra had everything she needed to take back her throne with very little opposition but was hesitant because of her child hood friend
Everything she needed? You honestly think Syrax can go up against Vhagar? Meleys is a lot bigger than Syrax and look what happened. If Rhaenyra tried to take on Aemond she wouldn't stand a chance, so I wouldn't say she has everything.
@@truetory6231at the begining she had everything to crush greens, just like daenerys, the problem is westeros have been a peacefull since jaeherys till viserys, if you want to be a good queen, you dont just masacre legacy that previous rulers try so hard to keep. Vhagar is biggest problem for sure but greens only have vhagar and sunfyre (tessarion and dreamfyre not battle ready) while blacks have caraxes, meleys, moondancer, syrax, arrax. Greens have hightower but blacks have velaryon. If they go on all out war, black will win for sure but the cost will be high. Caraxes definetly can solo vhagar, meleys and specially rhaenys is worn out when they decide to fight vhagar. If you remember daemon have been thinking about getting new rider since start by mentioning seasmoke, silver wing, vermithor etc which mean if going all out he will get those dragon a riders first but rhaenyra dont want that.
@@Lynn-jg7hx Yeah, she had three of the strongest houses on her side, the riverlands were just a question of time and she had three big dragons (caraxes, meleys and syrax) who together could have overpowered Vhagar and sunfyre plus moondancer and arrax who can still wreck armies and castles fighting alongside their own armies.
She was busy hoeing around😂
@truetory6231 she had Maelys and Syrax and Caraxes at the beginning. Had she done what Dawmon told her to do, attack all at once she would have won the first week...
Rhaneyra had 3 of the 5 most powerful houses on her side, more dragons and the greatest dragonrider and warrior as her husband and still manged to f it up.
Does she? Her line ends up ruling the kingdom after DOTD up until the end of GOT. Sounds like she made a great sacrifice to ensure her line lives on in power.
Because she didn't wanted to start a war.
@@michaelmichaelagnew8503 They literally assassinated the king and were tried and punished for it by Cregan.
@@alp_mez8598 according to the lore the current king in the series kills the main queen after he captures her down the road.
@@michaelmichaelagnew8503 yeah and?
With that neck lady arryn can gather all my warriors
That's the reason why if you killed one Targaryen and the Stark survived, the Alliance will always survive.
How big the armies are but we see max 100 soldiers 😂😂😅
Budget cuts
Imagine Starks gathering free folk as well💀 if they did so, after the dance they could have ruled the seven kingdoms
House Tully should’ve been on this list.
Their Lord Paramour controls the Riverlands. Control over the Riverlands is the key to the war in the dance of dragons. As these houses together could form a ton of banners that could secure entry for the Starks to Kings Landing. Ultimately the Riverlands could also repel the Lannisters and subsequently surround Kings Landing, with Velaryons cutting off trade to Kings Landing and subsequently starving them, the Starks would be all that is necessary to take Kings Landing.
Vhagar would be no threat against Caraxes, Syrax, and Moon Dancer and at this point in the war Sunfyre is out for the count and Dreamfyre though claimed by Helaena will never be ridden during the dance according to the book.
Aemond is on his own and his dragon is too slow to and outnumbered for a head on fight against Rhaenyra.
House Tully should’ve been on this list.
Agree but this the list of individuals family power. Tully is weaker than their banners lords like brackens, blackwoods and frey
Lord paramount.
Lord Paramount. Grover Tully doesn't sleep with his vassals.
We need more House Starks 🍺
The Starks, always on the right side ❤
They're jumping and still stable, yep, that's TREASURE kings of stage presence and performances🔥🔥🔥👑
The writer’s could have focused on these houses instead of daemon hallucinations and other things they had books unlike d and d
Dont forget the army of old men the north sent. No fear of dying, nothing. The single most powerful troup.
The North Remembers
I'm waiting the Blackwoods too
0:45 that horse armor
the war is basically hightowers vs velaryons
Rhaenyra had 8 (Syrax, Caraxes, Vermithor, Silverwing, Sheepstealer, Sea Smoke, Moon Dancer and Jace's dragon) dragons + the Velaryon fleet, Northmen infantry and Vale cavalry.
Still loses.
her army won, but she died. It happens.
Jace's dragon is Vermax the 2nd dragon to go North after Silverwing
They won just she is not there to see it
Targaryen’s, Valeryn’s and the starks together is a terrifying force. With dragons and riders too, and commanded by Daemon.
house blackwood with only 600 men : yoo ✋🏻😮
Ok, the army numbers are completely wrong. The stormlands can gather around 35-40k man the north and the vale around 45k, and the lannisters around 50k and the hightowers can gather more than 20 thousand
That’s literally the numbers of game of thrones time line 💀😭😭😭
The numbers wouldn’t be this high 300 years in the past… (and the video is referring to the amount of soldiers each faction is committing, probably not their entire force since it takes too long to fully mobilize)
Starks are the strongest. They oblitareta every army in the book.
Yup they never lost a battle (not including betrayals)
Make a short or video about if the dorne and iron islande would join in and how strong they are
where are you getting these numbers from? Are you referencing the direct levies the houses mentioned can raise without calling their banners?
Each region can raise the following, maximum number of fighting men:
Stormlands- LP House Baratheon 30k
Reach- LP House Tyrell 100k
Westerlands- LP House Lannister 60k
Riverlands- LP House Tully 45k
North- LP House Stark 45K
Vale- LP House Arryn 40k
Crownlands- ‘LP’ House Targaryen 25-30K
Iron Islands- LP House Greyjoy 10-15K
I want a series on starks (after daemon i like the cast of cregan stark and wishes to see him more)
Lord Cregan stark❤
Gregan could make a pet out of a dragon.
Not quite sure about Lannisters and Hightowers. Lannisters are Lords Paramount of Westerlands, and can muster up to 30-40 thousand soldiers, as demonstrated by Tywin. As for Hightowers, I would say they are probably the strongest noble house of the Reach, but they are only one of the chief vassals of Tyrells, on par in status with Tarly, Florent, Rowan, etc.
So yeah, in terms of pure resources, manpower and status, Lannisters beat out Hightowers. Do take into consideration that I am talking about purely House Hightower, and the not the Greens.
no way the Starks can field more Men then Lannisters or Baratheon
They rule the north , the largest kingdom in westeros .
If Aegon the conqueror didn't have dragons then the starks would rule
@@SUIIIIIII77 no the north is the least populated out of the seven Kingdoms
The stark king gathered 30000 men to confront Aegon while the Lannister gathered 25000 also at dance Cregan stark assembled 8000-20000 men without counting the 2000 that he sent at the beginning of the war while the Lannister Lord gathered 8000
@@CybranBob1265the least populated kingdom is Dorne
@@حمودالمطيري-و9ر Gardner & Lannister Host was the greatest ever gathered in Westerosi History when they marched against Aegon I.
100k strong.....60K Reach and 40k Westernlands under the Kinga Mern Gardner and Loren Lannister.
Who would have thought that the main houses with all the action and characters would be the strongest, thank you for that in deepth list
He's just making shit up. The velaryons were rich and had naval power, but their main strength were their dragons. Also, the hightowers are not that strong, though they are the strongest house in westeros that aren't lord paramount over their region in terms of land power, and it should be noted that the velaryons were the richest at this point of time because of corlys and his voyages to assahi
@@historicaldocumentary373Didn't Corlys say that his house aka velaryons are not dragonriders?
@@historicaldocumentary373... and it WAS mentioned that Velaryons were the richest house at the time.
@@historicaldocumentary373 what did he make up? 😂
"Strong Non-Targaryan Houses" -" Baratheon" Oh boyyyy lol
If we cant get an ancient valyrian show than i want to see a show about theon stark
use your imagination. Do you really need people to act things out for you?
@SantomPh bro stfu some of us don't have time to day dream in their mom's basement all day
😮😮😮❤ he's right he's defending the right the FIREFIGHTER
The Hightowers aren’t ’supporters of the greens;’ they ARE the greens.
The irony of showing Jace Strong when talking about Velaryons
The starks should be a place higher and hightower at 3rd the starks could've conquered all westeros in the book maybe the velaryons are really stronger but hightower?
you forgot the Hightowers literally have children who have Targaryens children?
What happened to the Hightowers and Velaryons before the beginning of GOT? These houses never seen.
I'm sorry but i never read the books.
Numbers are all over the place here, house Arryn as a single house can’t have 10-20000 men but if they summon their vassals they’ll have well over 30000, the hightowers likely have the strongest army any single house can call upon but that’s still probably only 12’000 men, house stark by itself can probably get no more than 5-6000, the Lannister’s could probably get 8-10000 with the resources available to swell their ranks with sellswords
It’s weird how Hightowers and Velaryons big as they are are not relevant in GoT
Velaryons power pretty much died with the demise of the targaryens, but house hightower is still strong we didn t see much of them in GoT because they werent relevant to the story
Hightowers are still one of the richest and most powerful during the main series. Their lord is old and kind of crazy so didnt really take part in the WOT5K. He married his family all over the Reach, Margaerys mothers is Alerie Hightower. The Velaryons are pretty much bums tho, they lost all their money because Alyn Oakenfist invested in the Rogare Bank which got fucked over badly.
House Velaryon just vanishing never made sense to me.. but I kinda accepted it as they needed to go so the greyjoys could play their part in the current events... Otherwise greyjoys would have never been relevant if there exists a greater naval power to stop them.
@@oscarbautista4156 the greyjoys arent even the greatest naval power after the velaryons, The Redwynes are. They don't just disappear, Alyn bankrupts them because he's an up-jumped bastard who didn't really understand money and invested into the rogares bank which went ass up after a few years. They still exist in the current story, they lost any remaining relevance when Aerys was killed, they're just vassals of Stannis for now, Aurane Velaryon is the only one who can make big plans to restore them to glory but most likely he's just going to be a pirate king and get stomped by the free cities.
@@oscarbautista4156 they lost much of their power after the dance and the common years. especially after the doom of the targaryen dynasty. their whole fleet was blown up in the battle at blackwater Bay
The Strongs of Herranhall could gather around 50,000 troops in the river lands that's why Demon went there first.
Wait till the red krakan shows up
All hail House Stark of Winterfell
Shocking... the great houses.
All the editing and he left out how many men Valerians can muster for war😂🎉
given that Valyria is gone, that is a flat zero
Not despite the onset of winter, but because of the onset of winter. the winter wolves march to spare their families from having to feed them, and they fight to die in battle.
6K for the Baratheons sounds ridiculously low
I know Targaryen have married into almost every house, but house Baratheon was founded by Orys Baratheon who is said to be Aegon the conquerors, half brother and a ton of Targaryens have married into their family and the Velaryons are the only other people besides the Targaryen, who have the blood of old Valeria and a lot of Targaryen of married into their family too. There actually were other houses that had came from Targaryen and Targaryen bastards, but they died off long before a song of ice and fire
Velaryon is not the only westerosi valyrian house besides targaryens
Yes there is also hous celtigar
@@florianbarkowski6856and house blackfyre
@@florianbarkowski6856 and house blackFyre and there’s one more but I’m forgetting their name but I know there sigil is a yellow backing with skulls on it. I believe because I know the one you mentioned is like a light blue with crabs in the blackfyre is a red backing with a black dragon
@@Fictionfactory555 you mean house Qoherys, but they're an extinct house. Celtigar sigil is a bunch of red crabs on a white field, blackfyre one is true though. Also baratheon is kinda valyrian.
Hmmm, based on the military strength they provided, I would say here is a more definitive list:
1. House Velaryon who controls the Velaryon fleet said to be comprised of 60 war galleys, 30 longships, and more than 100 great cogs. If a standard War Galley can house about 60 fighting men (not including the 200 rowers) then the galleys alone would give around 3,600 men. A standard longship could house about 30 men so that is another 900 men while a single great cog could house around 60 men so that is an additional 6,000.
2. House Stark who managed to assemble around 12,000 men which included the 2,000 Winter Wolves.
3. House Arryn managed to assemble 9,500 men composed of 1,500 knights and 8,000 men-at-arms.
4. House Lannister managed to raise 8,000 men comprised of 1,000 knights and 7,000 archers and men-at-arms.
5. House Baratheon managed to raise around 7,000 men composed of 6,000 men raised against the Vulture King and 600 knights and 400 foot men during the Battle of the Kingsroad.
6. House Hightower alone (who itself is not a Great House and can only depend on the man power provided by Oldtown) was able to raise 6,000 men composed of 1000 knights, 1000 archers, 3000 men-at-arms, and 1000 untrained foot men. It should also be noted that House Hightower had the capacity to field more men as Lyonel Hightower initially wanted to raise another army and continue the war but was persuaded against the idea when Samantha Tarly agreed to marry him (that or the end of Tyrell Neutrality who proactively ordered the Hightowers to cease fighting)
Other houses included:
7. House Tully who managed to field 6,000 men along with the other Riverlords.
8. House Rowan who managed to provided the largest bulk of the 6,000 men raised along side houses Caswell and Merryweather in support of Queen Rhaenyra Targaryen.
9. House Greyjoy who possessed around 100 longships (about 3,000 men) to raid and plunder Lannisport.
10. House Peake who along with House Roxton and Bourney managed to field around 3,000 men to join the 6,000 men from House Hightower during the Battle of Tumbleton.
Thanks
So Daemon wasted an entire season to rally the 7th strongest House Tully in his favour?
What happened to House Velaryon during the main GoT timeline?
Their power declined, it was corlys velaryon voyages which had made them richer and marrying into the royal family brought them dragons and considerable influence. By the end of war they lost their dragons their money and hence they have been reduced to a minor vessel of the baratheons.
They’d been diminished. Their castle(with many treasures) burned by the Triarchy during the Dance of the Dragons. You may want to actually read ahead about what happens in The Dance before posing such questions?
@@m.williams4971it’s just a question “you may come on dude” than don’t answer.
@m.williams4971 you must be fun at parties
They support Stannis but still not that relevant at least compared to Davos, Melisandre or the Florents. Their most prominent character in the ASOIAF books is a bastard male who looked like Rhaegar.
You forgot Kermet the Tully
What happened to the hightowers? They seem so powerful in HOTD but in the GOT series they're rarely mentioned and seem to be forgotten
they are still a powerful house under the Tyrells and even have the largest bank in Westeros. Mace Tyrell's wife is a Hightower and a lot of his army is Hightower men.
The reason we don't hear much from them is that their lord Lyonel is always in the Hightower with his daughter and hasn't come down in a long time, leaving affairs to his younger relatives. The Lord Commander of the Kingsguard at the time of Robert's Rebellion was Ser Gerold Hightower, the White Bull
Something bad must happen to the Hightowers blood line since they’re not in GOT. Or even mentioned as far as I can remember
Why were they only able to get a fraction of the amount of men they could in GoT? Like the Lannisters had 60k then for example.
numbers are a fallacy which is why George doesn't really count them that often when his armies are mentioned. The Lannisters don't even have a 60k population let alone an army.
The populations increase with time as there is an extended period of relative peace in Westeros from the time of the end of the First Blackfyre Rebellion all the way to Aegon V's rule. The ironborn stopped raiding the west coast, the Reach continued to prosper and the trade with the east improved with King Viserys II even introducing Lyseni blood into the family via his wife.
@@SantomPh there was an extensive period of peace under Jahaereys and Viserys as well
There have been a total of six houses to have the blood of old Valeria, or that were created by Targaryens out of those three still remain up until the events of a song of ice and fire the Targaryens, Velaryons, and the Baratheons and they are all major houses for most of their existence the other three houses that died out were house Blackfire, Qoherys, and Celtigar
That's not true, lots of Targaryen princesses married to noble houses and their bloodline continued to this day, the most important one is house Martel, other examples are house corbray, plum, penrose and...
And the house celtigar has not died out and still remains.
House Celtigar still exists, they fought in the Blackwater but were forced to surrender to Joffery.
Other houses have had Targaryens marry into it, including House Hightower (not who you think), House Martell, and even House Plumm has a "drop of dragon blood" in it.
House Blackfyre is extinct in the male line, but George keeps saying that. The female line might still exist, or some descendant of Daemon Blackfyre's many sons.
If you go by the fact that Targaryen's and Velaryon's are kin, Stark's would probably be #1 since in the end Cregan rules as King Regant for Rhaenyra's last sons Aegon III and Viserys II.
Velaryons in HOTD 🗿💰👑
Velaryons in Got ☠️⚰️💩
I would love to see the forrester house of the telltale
What was Tyrell doing at the time?
the lord died very recently just before Viserys, leaving his wife and three month old son as rulers of Highgarden. The Lady, acting as regent for her son refused to declare for either side, allowing House Hightower to run their side of the war, but also for Reach Houses loyal to the blacks to fight them in return.
@@SantomPh cheers
Bro pulling numbers out of his ass fr fr. The Vale and the North calling up the most me? Sus.
Green 3 dragons 35k soldiers reasonable navy
Baratheon 6k
Lannisters 9k + Navy
Hightower 20K + Navy
Black 7 dragons 31k soldiers huge navy
Arryns 15k
Starks 16k
Valeryons huge navy
Only the howl of the wolves remained.
Velrayons will never be as power again after the dance, so said. This is their peak
Arryns are more potent than Lannisters. $$ has little to do with battle once the armor and numbers are set.
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@@lannister3320 You present yourself as clueless when posing ?? to a clearly stated concept. Maybe actually listen to the video if you’ve that lost?
That’s not true at all. Literally Jeyne in the books said she required more money for her army 😭💀
Nah, the video is misleading
I actually love arryns , they're so underrated
I just wish they run it until The Hour of the Wolf
I don't know but george Martin's favourite house is stark bcz bro always five them best storyline😂
Hightower were the green 😅
Tum aapne videos ki quality kaise itni jyada rkhte ho?...reply Dena...
riverlords basically won the war for blacks, they in fishfeed killing lannister, in butcher ball killing ser criston crown army, in 2nd battle of tumbleton killing hightower and kingsroad killing baratheon
GRRMs favorite respawning army
greyjoy was strong too. They defeated the Laniser a lot on water too.
I wish the North had Wargs so we can see if they can take a dragon
falto la zona de los rios, que prometen mas de 10000 soldados
Starks ❤👑
Mmmm I'll just say this: The time of the wolf
Didn’t the Lannisters have the means to mobilise 30k to 60k troops including all of their vassal houses? Just like what Tywin told Jaime that they can muster a whole lot more troops.
I think they are just mentioning their direct forces excluding their vassals
@@theforestverse yeah but even so, remember the Reynes of Castamere. The Lannisters by themselves under Tywin gathered above 12k troops with the other reserves split between Tywins brothers. So in actual fact, the Lannisters alone can field over 20-25k troops. But I suspect with Jason, he has 10k troops with the remaining Lannister troops with his other brothers and cousins. In total, I hope the Lannisters can muster 60k troops like how Tywin and Jaime could.
Army doesn't win wars, dragons do
Honestly don't think those numbers are even close considering the scale and size of those kingdoms. Especially Baratheon and Lannisters being
the way baratheon is pronounced lmao
How tf do the Baratheons only have a few thousand fighting men????
Black❤❤❤
Team black was lot of advantages in the war to wipe the greens , black had more army's, more dragons, great naval support and Daemon . But all of them die because of the queens fuking idea
All great house can muster about 30k man but they just dont send it lol
Ofc they dont wanna run out of their army
I wonder how come the Hightowers managed to overcome their liege lords the Tyrells. I get that they are the green's family, but in terms of soldiers and economy they should be subservient to Highgarden right?
I thought most houses only really had 2,000 men to fight with. Minus the North.
Knights or men at arms. They could levie a shit ton of peasants given time. The Reach could field 100,000 men alone
Actually in the books. Cregan stark only manages to raise 8000
Give the man a beard damn it!
Robb and Jon looked young enough with one, no reason to have a northern badass look like a modern days underwear model😢
Where are the Hightower and Velaryons during game of thrones? I havent read the books