I do not envy you guys. I do vinyl and poured urethane gym floors. Your work is literally back breaking. I do however have a ton of respect for you wood guys.
Sir thanks for the knowledge and ideas.. actually we are also installers of basketball court flrng here in the phils but on call when theres a project, and we are Using the same specs of maple wood tongue and groove like u r using sir.....we are amazed to your system considering work environment and temp of the area.. me and my team discussing on your post and we are enlightened... Thank you sir..
Is the first sheet of 1/2 plywood screwed in the concrete or just floating on top of the concrete. And 2cd ply is stapled in correct ? I’m prepping for a 1st time gym job. Just taking notes right now
All systems are different, and there are many systems. This particular system is called a panel floor. The bottom layer of plywood - with the pads attached, are floating and cannot, or should not be fixed to any surface - as they contract and expand over time. Fixing them to any surface would impinge upon it's movement and cause major problems. The first layer goes from non hoop wall, to non hoop wall (the 8 foot length), and is staggered on a 4 foot stagger per row. The second (top layer) goes from corner to corner on a perfect 45 degree angle and is stapled - using a staple that is equal to the thickness of the two sheets total. In this case, 1 inch, and you'll need a staple every square foot, and every 6 - 9 inches around the perimeter of each sheet.
I would refer to the building plans provided by the architect, as the specs required for your project will be listed in that document. Follow the specs as provided there, as they may differ depending on which geographical location you are installing your floor, as well as the requirements desired by the customer. Good luck!
I liked when he was stapling the subfloor he had his weight on it the entire time. I would be wary of stapling the entire outside first. Doing the top and left edges first, then from left to right in the middle and the right and bottom edges last may help prevent the subfloor from bubbling up.
That's why I generally stand in the center when I staple the perimeter, my weight throws the slack to the edges. I've done over 2 million feet of double layer plywood flooring systems and haven't had a problem yet. (knock on wood)
the 2 layers of plywood are nailed down to the concrete subfloor, or drilled, depending on if these guys are paid hourly, lol. Then the maple flooring is nailed in through its side into the plywood. the reason for it being to the side is so that the nail can't be seen when another board is installed up against it.
It would depend on which products you install. You would need to contact the company whose products you install. Depending on the jurisdiction, they could likely point you in the right direction.
hey I'm going to do this exact same system myself is there a way I can speak to you on the phone for some tips . I have been watching your videos for some time now
We follow the specs that are laid out by the architect. In this case, there were no expansion gaps as this floor was in a dry climate. Generally, you only need to add expansion gaps in high humidity climates.
@FLOOREDThank you for this amazing and informative video. We are currently assembling a wood floor for our basketball gym in the Bay Area. I was wondering if creaking/popping sound is normal when walking over throughout the wooden floor (sanding and polish has not been done yet)? I would highly appreciate your feedback.Thank you.
Nope, that’s not normal. A lot of things could be wrong. Not nailed properly, the wood has sloppy tongue and groove joints, the subfloor was in level multiple things could have not been done right
i know im 2 years too late for this but the most likely answer is that the nails weren't nailed properly, it can cause the boards to be slightly loose and the movement of the board on the loose nails creates the creaking, the popping is also a side effect of the loose boards caused by improper installation, another reason for the boards being loose is that the installer might not have left adequete expansion on the sides of the floors and it caused the floors to expand and loosen itself, but there would be likely other damage also noticeable from that.
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I do not envy you guys. I do vinyl and poured urethane gym floors. Your work is literally back breaking. I do however have a ton of respect for you wood guys.
Same here poured urethane is my thing as well.
Sir thanks for the knowledge and ideas.. actually we are also installers of basketball court flrng here in the phils but on call when theres a project, and we are Using the same specs of maple wood tongue and groove like u r using sir.....we are amazed to your system considering work environment and temp of the area.. me and my team discussing on your post and we are enlightened...
Thank you sir..
cool vid. is procedure for basement floor same ?
Is the first sheet of 1/2 plywood screwed in the concrete or just floating on top of the concrete. And 2cd ply is stapled in correct ? I’m prepping for a 1st time gym job. Just taking notes right now
All systems are different, and there are many systems. This particular system is called a panel floor. The bottom layer of plywood - with the pads attached, are floating and cannot, or should not be fixed to any surface - as they contract and expand over time. Fixing them to any surface would impinge upon it's movement and cause major problems. The first layer goes from non hoop wall, to non hoop wall (the 8 foot length), and is staggered on a 4 foot stagger per row. The second (top layer) goes from corner to corner on a perfect 45 degree angle and is stapled - using a staple that is equal to the thickness of the two sheets total. In this case, 1 inch, and you'll need a staple every square foot, and every 6 - 9 inches around the perimeter of each sheet.
I would refer to the building plans provided by the architect, as the specs required for your project will be listed in that document. Follow the specs as provided there, as they may differ depending on which geographical location you are installing your floor, as well as the requirements desired by the customer. Good luck!
@@FLOOREDTV thank you for the reply
What thickness plywood are you using for the subfloor ?
Two layers of APA rated, 4 ply 15/32.
What is the purpose of the space between racks of rows? When you’re racking.
I liked when he was stapling the subfloor he had his weight on it the entire time. I would be wary of stapling the entire outside first. Doing the top and left edges first, then from left to right in the middle and the right and bottom edges last may help prevent the subfloor from bubbling up.
That's why I generally stand in the center when I staple the perimeter, my weight throws the slack to the edges. I've done over 2 million feet of double layer plywood flooring systems and haven't had a problem yet. (knock on wood)
@@FLOOREDTV ,
You guys rock the rack !!!
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That's a very good video do you screw it down the plywood or you leave it like that
Staple it to the subfloor on 9 inch centers.
the 2 layers of plywood are nailed down to the concrete subfloor, or drilled, depending on if these guys are paid hourly, lol. Then the maple flooring is nailed in through its side into the plywood. the reason for it being to the side is so that the nail can't be seen when another board is installed up against it.
I have a question. How do I get an accreditation to become an accredited installer?
It would depend on which products you install. You would need to contact the company whose products you install. Depending on the jurisdiction, they could likely point you in the right direction.
Thanks for the info and the reply. Happy Holidays
hey I'm going to do this exact same system myself is there a way I can speak to you on the phone for some tips . I have been watching your videos for some time now
You guys don’t leave expansions every 6 ft?
We follow the specs that are laid out by the architect. In this case, there were no expansion gaps as this floor was in a dry climate. Generally, you only need to add expansion gaps in high humidity climates.
@FLOOREDThank you for this amazing and informative video. We are currently assembling a wood floor for our basketball gym in the Bay Area. I was wondering if creaking/popping sound is normal when walking over throughout the wooden floor (sanding and polish has not been done yet)? I would highly appreciate your feedback.Thank you.
Nope, that’s not normal. A lot of things could be wrong. Not nailed properly, the wood has sloppy tongue and groove joints, the subfloor was in level multiple things could have not been done right
i know im 2 years too late for this but the most likely answer is that the nails weren't nailed properly, it can cause the boards to be slightly loose and the movement of the board on the loose nails creates the creaking, the popping is also a side effect of the loose boards caused by improper installation, another reason for the boards being loose is that the installer might not have left adequete expansion on the sides of the floors and it caused the floors to expand and loosen itself, but there would be likely other damage also noticeable from that.
@@NEXFLOOR thank you so much for the informative response! We are seeing the mishaps of the poor installation process at current unfortunately.
How big is that floor
10,000 sq. ft.
@@FLOOREDTV We can do it in a week.
Good video but if your left handed you actually want to work from right to left not from left to right
Always beat the male end of the t&g floor NEVER the female end ..there fore the floor is racked and nailed left to right
Milking that job.
You could do this without the stupid metal music, you know
If you don't like it then go watch another channel. The metal stays!
@@FLOOREDTVlet him know man!