Acoustic String Comparison: 80/20 vs. Phosphor Bronze

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  • Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
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    Today I wanted to help you (and myself) settle an age old argument - do you prefer the sound of 80/20 or phosphor bronze acoustic strings? In today's video, we're going to be playing some back to back samples on the two D'Addario strings sets. We'll be using the same mics, pick, right hand position, and guitar in order to isolate as many variables as possible so that the only difference you're hearing is coming from the strings. Honestly, this video is for myself as much as it is for the person watching it.
    To say a bit about the different sets - 80/20 strings have been around since the early 1900's and in fact were one of the first alloys used in making steel guitar strings. They're known for having a loud, very bright tone to them. They're made to cut through the mix and provide more volume than other sets. The phosphor bronze design is made with the intention of getting a warmer, more full tone. For that reason, they might be better for recording purposes or for playing out live with other amplification. This video will help you make the decision for which string set you prefer.
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Комментарии • 616

  • @AlexPriceMusician
    @AlexPriceMusician  4 года назад +21

    Does String Gauge on Acoustic Make a Difference? 10's vs. 13's:
    ruclips.net/video/2YpNv6Ma-KE/видео.html

    • @chrismai539
      @chrismai539 4 года назад

      I would keep the same string gauge as the original on the guitar

    • @carlom.3737
      @carlom.3737 4 года назад

      Not only will different gauges make a difference (different amount/thickness of material) but also the differing tension will result in higher/lower action on your guitar, unless you diligently adjust action when you change gauges. Also manufacturers tend to build to a certain gauge in mind, and in fact if you have a lightly braced/built guitar say in the 00 or OM size, it may only be spec'd for lights, and putting mediums on it may be against the manufacturer's recommendation.

    • @tonurehela860
      @tonurehela860 4 года назад +1

      Usually todays acoustic guitars use 12s by factory (but look up this for your guitar it can still vary). You can always go for a lighter gauge but I would not reccomend to put heavier strings on it than the factory reccomendations. Doing so can cause the nut to crack or some strings wont even fit the nut anymore properly... But to answer you question yes - heavier strings allow faster picking with a heavy pick... when you re into bluegrass (or surfrock)- tremolopicking. But you get more tension, therefore bends will be harder on heavy strings and vv. Lighter stings allow you to play longer or barre a lot easier and learn with less pain... I used to play heavy strings for a long time but during the last years my hands got weaker and I got more to play... so I switched from heavy to lighter string gauges (I´ve played everything between 16s and 8s.... during the years... but nowdays 10-12s work the best for me, depending on the guitar. )

    • @justme-wh5li
      @justme-wh5li 3 года назад +1

      yup. previously had fender light 80/20. just rigged my guitar with Martin Mediums (12-52) phosphor bronze. Way too much tension on the top, restricting harmonics (which create a fuller sound). ended up with a lot of fizz from the string, not converting to true tone. also almost unplayable from fret 7 up.... would need to adjust truss rod. basically, overstrung. I know this sound and result from years playing violin professionally.... will be different for each guitar though. have to listen and feel the difference.

    • @raybernal4111
      @raybernal4111 3 года назад

      I have a OM 21 Martin 1993model and i have never tried 13’s. 12 yes. Do you think it can handle it? Although the factory recommended use of medium or lighter strings.

  • @quietwyatt4045
    @quietwyatt4045 3 года назад +266

    It's been my experience after over 30+ years of suffering from what I call Obsessive-Compulsive Hyper-Critical Guitar String-Blaming Disorder (OCHCGSBD) that it indeed comes down to Phosphor/Bronze and 80/20. In general, Phosphor/Bronze strings can be considered the "Great Equalizers". On a "modest" guitar (less than $1,000) the Phosphor/Bronze can work wonders at helping the instrument sound pleasing. They have a generic sound that can cover over a cheaper guitar's imperfections. Also, it is very true that they last longer than 80/20s. It's when you get up into the high-end of the acoustic guitar world that the 80/20's begin to make more sense. The 80/20s, short-lived though they are, are the strings that make a Martin, a Gibson, an old Westerly Guild F50r, sound completely unlike each other; and completely like themselves. In short, if you want to hear what your guitar really sounds like, use 80/20s.

    • @lukasbernsen3824
      @lukasbernsen3824 3 года назад +12

      made my day

    • @javierdiazsantana
      @javierdiazsantana 3 года назад +9

      Really? I thought the opposite... On my experience, i would say that, since cheaper guitars (On the very cheap end) tend to use low quality tonewoods, they tend to sound duller, and i would actually think that the 80/20's would do marvels with those since you need to balance out the lack of brightness of the instrument... On the opposite, a higher quality tonewood instrument, would sound more present on the top end and would require a warmer string or simply, since it's a higher quality guitar, could simply use any type of string... but your opinion really interested me... With a very cheap guitar do you recommend a phosphor string? (On a 50 buck random plywood top guitar) Greetings from Mexico sir.

    • @lukasbernsen3824
      @lukasbernsen3824 3 года назад +12

      @@javierdiazsantanaI have a very warm guitar with solid mahogany back and sides and it ONLY sounds good with 80/20's, ... These strings brought it to life.. before it sounded like in water...now its clear

    • @javierdiazsantana
      @javierdiazsantana 3 года назад +4

      @@lukasbernsen3824 Hell yeah! I got an 80/20 set to put on a new acoustic that i paid 37 dollars for... Hope the bridge won't pop.

    • @podfuk
      @podfuk 3 года назад +9

      I have exactly same experience, Phosphor Bronze strings can diminish guitars characteristic, meanwhile 80/20 usually compliment natural sound of the guitar

  • @napoleondynamite8564
    @napoleondynamite8564 4 года назад +152

    I trust this guy because of the Supro in the background
    And the Martin

  • @jme92685
    @jme92685 4 года назад +105

    In my experience 80/20 is better for the singer/songwriter genre. They produce a bright and crisp sound, great for strumming chords. Phosphor Bronze is better for the instrumental genre. They produce a warm and dark tone, great for finger style playing.

    • @jme92685
      @jme92685 3 года назад

      @Milwaukee Matzen to me they sound a little too thin for finger style. I enjoy the dark, full tone of phosphor bronze for that.

    • @4lexYT01
      @4lexYT01 2 года назад +1

      Even I agree that 80/20 are better in terms of fingerstyle

    • @4lexYT01
      @4lexYT01 2 года назад

      And good for strumming singing as well

    • @thenakedbootleggers
      @thenakedbootleggers Год назад

      I find it opposite really! I think that generally PB strings make a shitty Guitar sound better but have a ceiling while the 80/20 is going to make a shitty guitar show why it is $300 and will equally show why your $8000 is such. If you want to know how good your Luthier is put 80/20's on it.

    • @jme92685
      @jme92685 Год назад

      @@thenakedbootleggers it’s personal preference. That’s just how my ears hear it. I think 80/20s are more versatile overall though.

  • @musicman_1981
    @musicman_1981 4 года назад +45

    I like phosphor bronze more... The sound is deeper, middle sound range is better and it's not too loud at high tone.

    • @ramspencer5492
      @ramspencer5492 4 месяца назад

      Yeah but with singing? 80/20s have a little mid scoop that supports backcamp of vocalist. Sometimes adding mid scoop to mid scoop on a rosewood guitar can be a little bit much though... Depending on the guitar. 80/20s also need less EQ to sit in a mix.

  • @ANON0061
    @ANON0061 2 года назад +10

    best 80/20 vs phosphor comparison video on youtube. Thanks man - we really appreciate your time and effort!!

  • @Marley999888
    @Marley999888 3 года назад +22

    For me the 80/20 were miles ahead.The Phosphor Bronze have a vague airy midrange that I suppose some might love...for me it just feels like something is missing everytime I hear them.Fantastic playing on a fantastic guitar.Nice one.

  • @ejb5659
    @ejb5659 4 года назад +30

    Well I've always used Pb's but no more after this- the 80/20's just sing, the Pb's sound stilted and not nearly as full. Thank you for taking the time to do this!

  • @javierdiazsantana
    @javierdiazsantana 3 года назад +14

    They both sound very good, naturally the 80/20 is way brighter and the phosphor warmer and fuller. I have an 80/20 set now and i think the next i will put on will be a phosphor. And of course is all in the taste of each person, if you play purely acoustic, no amplification, and you need to cut through, use 80/20. If you don't need that much cut and you need a warmer sound, get the phosphor. Also the instrument's voice is key in deciding which strings you will use. For dark instruments the 80/20's can do miracles, and for brighter guitars, you can pretty much balance it out with the phosphor strings. Great vid man, thank you.

  • @taffyfusilier
    @taffyfusilier 4 года назад +22

    Your take on comfortably numb is brilliant mate 👍🏻. Love to see a full video of that.

    • @AlexPriceMusician
      @AlexPriceMusician  4 года назад +1

      Thank you! I have a full band version from a few years ago. Completely instrumental though and I'm playing mostly the same guitar parts except for where the vibraphone is covering the melody.
      ruclips.net/video/jw2l1JmsQd0/видео.html

  • @Gman44044
    @Gman44044 Год назад +2

    Thank you for going through the hard work of changing strings just for this video. I hate wasting strings, so I appreciate taking time and effort just to do this video!

  • @PeteA54
    @PeteA54 3 года назад +17

    Well, I just put some 80/20's on my guitar and really didn't care for the sound at all. After listening to this incredibly well done comparison it's clear as can be that I'll never buy 80/20's again. The 80/20's IMO were louder and brighter but lack the wonderful harmonics of the PB's. It's like the difference between glass and crystal. The PB's had beautiful string to string balance and work well as a set while with the 80/20's each string seems to be trying to out do each other. Thanks for making my string buying decisions a mute point! Also, that is some beautiful playing sir.

    • @AlexPriceMusician
      @AlexPriceMusician  3 года назад +1

      Thank you Pete! I appreciate it, and I’m glad that the video was helpful

    • @el34glo59
      @el34glo59 2 года назад +2

      It really depends on the guitar

  • @rosewoodsteel6656
    @rosewoodsteel6656 2 года назад +8

    Thanks for the great song selection and playing. I've been using phosphor bronze forever. I like the sound of the 80 / 20s in your demo and will be trying them out on my D-35. Thanks!

  • @jamesl.223
    @jamesl.223 2 года назад +6

    Excellent job man, simple, basic, and totally lets one understand the difference.

  • @herbythechef7624
    @herbythechef7624 3 года назад +11

    I think it really depends mostly on what kind of style and tone you are trying to go for me personally as a finger picker I use phosphor bronze strings all the time because I feel like they sound more balanced and warm sounding whereas the 80/20 string sound more punchier which is kind of nice if you are a flat picker I feel like the highs are also more crisp and clear on the 80/20 but for me I don't want my eyes to be outstanding so I stick with the phosphor bronze strings

  • @woodLG
    @woodLG 2 года назад +17

    Great comparison! I typically prefer PBs but my ears liked the 80/20s best in your test. Interesting!

  • @sauronquinn2061
    @sauronquinn2061 4 года назад +22

    I go with 80/20 but I play Martin D15 guitars which are mahogany and rather dark. I think brighter strings work better on darker guitars. Informative video. Also, great playing!

    • @AlexPriceMusician
      @AlexPriceMusician  4 года назад

      Thanks for your thoughts Dan!

    • @transcendenttv
      @transcendenttv 3 года назад +1

      This actually makes perfect sense. I almost always use PB. They tend to really mimic the actual tone woods better. BUT I just got a DREAM guitar, this 1972 Hofner 496 Jumbo - so rare id never even seen one before except online in old catalogs, and frankly it’s VERY dark sounding. So for the first time I’m going to try 80/20s just to try to brighten it up a bit... We’ll see how it goes...

  • @TheMaggots
    @TheMaggots 4 года назад +6

    This was a public service you did here thanks man going with the 80/20

  • @wilde33
    @wilde33 3 года назад +6

    Looking at the comments, it just goes to show that both of these sets of strings sounded fantastic and I I think the only thing that divides them Is personal preference in the end.

    • @AlexPriceMusician
      @AlexPriceMusician  3 года назад +1

      Could not agree more. The guitar itself also plays a huge role. On one instrument, the 80/20 set might sound awful - on another, it’s perfect.

  • @CharlieRootsMusic
    @CharlieRootsMusic 4 года назад +6

    Those 80/20 lights will make a dreadnaught come to life with mid brightness without losing bass . Can get a very good blues / rock sound out of them too .

  • @ExpiredPork
    @ExpiredPork 4 года назад +4

    This is a much better comparison video than any other video I've seen, you're microphone actually sounds good! Good playing too.

  • @nadiayorc
    @nadiayorc 4 года назад +14

    to me the 80/20s sound a lot clearer and less "muddy", but all up to personal preference I guess
    also certain strings definitely work better for certain types of playing/songs

    • @AlexPriceMusician
      @AlexPriceMusician  4 года назад

      Definitely. I think for people strumming hard, the 80/20 might be a better fit. I personally like the Phosphor Bronze because I pick pretty lightly and I feel like I get more body out of them.

  • @colbenc
    @colbenc 4 года назад +13

    I ordered heavy phosphorous strings. My guitar sound like the string are medium 80/20. I think the guitar itself resonates lighter tones so it higher pitchy which isn't bad for my voice is can go high something about the sound undertones here represent sound I like and prefer. Which undertones at least in my thoughts i like the controlled tone without the high undertones. I can't so much explain it. With the right terminology but this just gave me reassure in my decision and why I went in that direction. Not by no means am I guitar player. I just play for the joy of making music.

  • @juanpabloherreragonzalez5974
    @juanpabloherreragonzalez5974 4 года назад +18

    Came here for the strings, stayed for the playin'

  • @brianscottmusic7567
    @brianscottmusic7567 4 года назад +6

    Generally speaking I prefer phosphor bronze, but once in a while I’ll throw 80/20 on my hummingbird just to get a brighter sound. Then I always go back to the PBs. I just like the warmer sound they give better. Nice video by the way!

  • @rickmorse9884
    @rickmorse9884 3 года назад +6

    Good comparison ... appreciate the effort to make it "apples to apples". And it's always great to hear someone half my age playing some Pink Floyd! I use phosphor/bronze on my smaller bodied guitar to "thicken" the sound, but prefer 80/20 on dreads so they're not so boomy.

  • @jamesmichael9854
    @jamesmichael9854 2 года назад +17

    80/20 sounds brighter and I like it. Phosphor bronze sounds slightly muddy compared to it.
    Btw this is an amazing comparison and I really like that the comparison was done without any other variables. I also like that you put short phases of them one by one. This helped me notice the differences.

    • @joemanganese
      @joemanganese Год назад

      Yes thanks Alex I forgot to thank you for the excellent work here. Very much appreciated!

  • @clintwhite3021
    @clintwhite3021 4 года назад +23

    I think the 80/20's suited this martin more initially but after playing for a while your ears might get annoyed with the sparkle. I prefer the PB's on my 000. Like horses for courses, most guitars have a string material, gage and brand that suits them :)

    • @AlexPriceMusician
      @AlexPriceMusician  4 года назад +7

      Agreed! I like to try and find the perfect set for each of my guitars.

    • @transcendenttv
      @transcendenttv 3 года назад +1

      Totally agree. Like with open tunings. It might take me a day or two of really intense emotional meddling to figure out what tuning a guitar wants to be in when I get a new one (used, but new to me). But when it finally lands, you can definitely hear and feel it. THATS the tuning that guitar wants to be in. Same with strings I think.

    • @el34glo59
      @el34glo59 2 года назад +3

      Yeah i like PB on my 000-28 and 80/20 on my golden Era hog backed alpine Spruce dread.

  • @anybody2501
    @anybody2501 2 года назад +2

    Beautiful rendition of a day in the life.
    Thanks for the demo, it was very helpful.
    Phosphor bronze for me.

  • @ima2101
    @ima2101 3 года назад +4

    Sir, you have such brilliant playing. Loved the way you did the comparison and loved the way you played your guitar.

  • @nidhivanshal2567
    @nidhivanshal2567 3 месяца назад

    I've literally been using the 80/20 bronze for 2 years now and I haven't changed, I wanted the low-end to sound better cause I want more bass in my acoustic and now I think Phosphor Bronze is way better for low-end! Thanks a lot, this helped me so much! 😄👌

  • @onionpierogi3038
    @onionpierogi3038 4 года назад +13

    Thanks always for these detailed comparisons!

  • @kevinbrianjohnsonmusic
    @kevinbrianjohnsonmusic 2 года назад +5

    I prefer the Phosphorus myself. I think it's more balanced to my ears.

  • @aliasgar_mk
    @aliasgar_mk 4 года назад +22

    Finally someone who plays A Major chord differently 🙋🏻‍♂️

    • @tonurehela860
      @tonurehela860 4 года назад +3

      The main reason to play it like this, like he does, is that you can easy play or switch to A 7th chords - (similar to a D7th shape).

    • @fbj1223
      @fbj1223 4 года назад +2

      I play it with my middle, ring and pinky finger.

    • @Alex-ze9tv
      @Alex-ze9tv 4 года назад +1

      FBJ 122 good. I play it just with my index finger.

  • @veryboringtapes6687
    @veryboringtapes6687 2 года назад +5

    Very interesting! In this demo, I find 20/80's wound strings sounding louder and more articulate. I'll try those the next time I buy acoustic strings!

  • @timwills6584
    @timwills6584 2 года назад +3

    Excellent comparison. Very useful! Obviously down to personal preference. 80/20 for me but I can see why others go for the PB.

  • @GuitarUniverse2013
    @GuitarUniverse2013 3 года назад +1

    Excellent version of yesterday!

  • @ericcoombs
    @ericcoombs 4 года назад +5

    Thanks Alex, yeah personally I think I like the 80/20s but who knows what the future holds 👍

  • @capohd28
    @capohd28 3 года назад +5

    I think the guitar really is the main factor on best string type. If the guitar is really bassy then 80/20. PB is best on bright guitars.

  • @terrydavidmullins
    @terrydavidmullins 3 года назад +2

    Great job. Thank you for a great comparison and the work you put in. I wish I could give more thumbs up.

  • @MisanthropeAwaitingBliss
    @MisanthropeAwaitingBliss 3 года назад +1

    Alex! Your content in this video is just awesome. Extremely precise. Apart from the comparison, your skill was more dominant. Thanks for sharing. You got a subscriber. 🍻

  • @TheBonefixr
    @TheBonefixr 4 года назад +10

    Excellent playing. Differences best heard in the later playing, Day in the Life, Yesterday, not so in the strumming. Not enough to make me change from 80/20's. I play Elixir Light 12-53, they're a bit expensive but nice sound and seem to last longer. Thanks for making this video.

  • @javierdiazsantana
    @javierdiazsantana 3 года назад +3

    So, it depends: If you play purely acoustic, even with other instruments, have a dark or budget guitar, want a bright sound or stuff, you might wanna try the 80/20's, at the other side, if you have a brighter guitar, want a warmer tone or play plugged, the phosphors... Greetings man. Thanks for making the vid.

  • @joecaner
    @joecaner 3 года назад +2

    I thought I was going to prefer the 80/20 on a dreadnought for the additional brightness, but after listening, I believe that the phosphor bronze strings *play* to a big box guitar's strengths at least for this situation.

  • @lilycat1694
    @lilycat1694 4 года назад +5

    I prefer the 80/20 bronze strings. I would like to hear John Pearce strings on that guitar. Nice playing by the way!

  • @sidbonfire
    @sidbonfire 4 года назад +9

    The 80/20 is like a bridge pick up, the PB is more like a neck pickup. Anyway, a little EQing could make one sound like the other,

  • @colauty2598
    @colauty2598 4 месяца назад

    I like the honesty, well done fella ! No bullshit just a straight forward informative vid, the layout to it is really good, making it easy to compare, I found both have positives in certain area's over each other, I guess its what suits the style of music one plays, or song, in a perfect world we'd have two guitars, PB & 80/20 😊, probably the 80\20s for what I play most of, difficult tho' .... cheers, great job done !

  • @MangiferaIndica918
    @MangiferaIndica918 3 года назад +2

    Very accurate and to the point comparison 👍.

  • @inrspc777
    @inrspc777 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you for creating the best 80/20 vs. Phosphor comparison video I have seen. I have always been partial to 80/20. I think after this video, my feelings have not changed. Phosphors sound tinny/chimey to my ear, whereas 80/20s have a richer deeper sound that I love.

  • @juanmanueldominguezbarca3810
    @juanmanueldominguezbarca3810 3 года назад +1

    EXCELLENT review. Thank you very much.

  • @javierdiazsantana
    @javierdiazsantana 3 года назад +23

    The Phosphors sound richer and fuller, like more folk or country, the 80/20's sound more cutting and brighter, more kinda bluegrass...

    • @alanabrams7693
      @alanabrams7693 3 года назад +1

      First of all if your looking for strictly country, the silk/steel or gypsy jazz set is what your looking for.
      If your looking to make the blues you need unparalleled tones to communicate better.
      The phosphor is protected string, that actually sounds pretty average when it comes to strings

    • @el34glo59
      @el34glo59 2 года назад

      @@alanabrams7693 Protected? What exactly does that mean? Phosphor does not sound avg btw

  • @paytonrichardson6974
    @paytonrichardson6974 4 года назад +14

    80/20 sounds so much better

  • @DanSager38
    @DanSager38 4 года назад

    Awesome video man! Thanks for taking the time to do this. The other few videos I watched described the differences before I found this one. Much appreciated!

  • @jessuisdiabolique
    @jessuisdiabolique 2 года назад

    Thank you for your time and effort in putting together this comparison video I have decided to go 80/20 after your wonderful and in-depth presentation

  • @someguy4505
    @someguy4505 5 месяцев назад

    I'm sticking with 80/20. I don't mind replacing them often, as I play 6 to 8 hours a day, and longer on weekends. The corrosion isn't an issue with frequent strings changes as they wear out and sound dead or break before corrosion is an issue. I prefer the crispness and less mids for my particular main acoustic (Yamaha FG5, great Japanese made guitar that I snagged for 1250 after asking for a best price quote from my sweetwater rep.) I didn't have a local shop that I could get one from.

  • @editionsforever5353
    @editionsforever5353 3 года назад

    Pretty straight forward mate - Like the genuineness on a whole!

  • @rintunt
    @rintunt 4 года назад +1

    Wow huge difference, not that noticeable until strumming.
    Great well made video, thanks so much for making. Helped me a lot with making a choice. Cheers

  • @dragui9932
    @dragui9932 3 года назад +1

    Excellent comparison. Thank you! I play 11-52 on my HD-28 Phosphore Bronze

  • @ChrisCollinsGuitar
    @ChrisCollinsGuitar 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video! Great playing too. You played every song I wanted to hear!

  • @Rockaboveclouds
    @Rockaboveclouds 3 года назад +3

    80/20 Bronze strings defenitely. More punch, more grit, clearer and less mellow. Thanks for the video!

    • @AlexPriceMusician
      @AlexPriceMusician  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for your thoughts!

    • @Rockaboveclouds
      @Rockaboveclouds 3 года назад

      @@AlexPriceMusician It remains 'difficult'. When you use the guitar in a band setting and want it to cut through the mix I would surely go for 80/20's. When you want delicate sounds as a solo instrument, possibly the phosphor bronze are a better choice.

  • @pudintaine1pudintaine226
    @pudintaine1pudintaine226 Месяц назад

    That strumming riff in the middle of the video is tight!

  • @alansturgess1324
    @alansturgess1324 3 года назад

    Very interesting and surprising - the Pb strings certainly sounded far less dynamic and slightly dull compared to copper. EXCELLENT demo with so many demos that were continuous without breaks for narration. Definite bell ringing time if this is the standard of your uploads.

  • @l.gonzalez9488
    @l.gonzalez9488 2 года назад

    Your video was so very helpful! 🙂 Thank you & God bless you! We will check out your other videos next time. 🕊️

  • @gregt4202
    @gregt4202 4 года назад +7

    Hard to tell in this video, even with headphones. But, I've used 80/20 on 5 guitars and they all seem to do well with them. 13's are too heavy though, dude! Relax. Go down to 11's and you'll get the most out of the mids and highs.

  • @tomasw6985
    @tomasw6985 4 года назад +3

    I'm a drummer. Sorry to crash your party. No pun intended but very pertinent. The phosphor bronze is, I believe, the B8 bronze that is in most beginner cymbals that most serious drummers would call junk...except for the Paiste 2002 series. They have less highs which is typical for b8 bronze but they are well made and sound great. Very controlled and consistent. Not very durable, though. Most pro cymbals are 80/20 bell bronze (Some people say 'Bell Brass.' It's not brass.) which has nice high frequency response and more sustain and volume. I see the similarities in these strings but the phosphor bronze (b8) strings have a rich warmth and comexity. The 80/20 strings have nicer highs but lack the warmth. It would be nice if there was a mix of the two types of strings so you could get the shimmer of the 80/20's and the complexity of the phosphor bronze. Just my 2 cents.
    Now you guys know if you see a drummer show up to an audition with b8 cymbals (Sabían B8's, Zildjian ZHT's...if they look like Copper) he probably isn't that serious or serious about sounding his best at your audition. Ask him what cymbals he gigs with. B8's? "Next!"

    • @AlexPriceMusician
      @AlexPriceMusician  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for sharing that Tomas - never would've known that small fact. I appreciate you sharing your insight

    • @el34glo59
      @el34glo59 2 года назад

      Ghs Americana sound like a mix. Closest thing. They're PBS but are Cryo treated and for some reason the end product is a long lasting, brighter without jangly, more fudemental PB. Closest PB to a 80/20 I've heard while still have the PB benefits and great life.

  • @mojjomusic_AU
    @mojjomusic_AU Год назад

    Great.Thanks for the time it took to make this review ...

  • @simonbaker9909
    @simonbaker9909 Год назад +2

    Thanks for the great video. 13's - pretty beefy strings to a lot of players, but I like the choice. I wonder how the comparison holds up as you go to lighter strings. Both sounded good on my mediocre computer speakers. I might give the edge to the 80-20 for strumming and to the phosphor/bronze for the finger picking (beautifully done btw), but purely personal preference, could feel differently on a different day.

  • @RWakko
    @RWakko 4 года назад

    Perfect, your video took away my doubts and I finnaly chose the ideal chords for me. Phospor made mid-tones clearer. Big TY from Brazil.

  • @JohnnyRebKy
    @JohnnyRebKy Год назад +1

    Depends on the guitar for me. I like 80/20s on a Gibson which gives them a bit more “ zing” and sparkle. On a Martin HD28 I like PB which really makes them BOOM 💥 and enhance the piano like overtones and sustain.
    Moral of the story…it really does depend on your specific guitar and YOUR ears. There just isn’t a black and white answer. Guitars are like people and have their own unique personality. Even 2 exact same guitars can like different things just like 2 identical twin people can look identical but have 2 different personalities
    It can be a bit frustrating trying to find the right string match for YOUR guitar. There just isn’t a short cut. It’s trial and error until the day comes when you say “ ok, wow these are IT”.
    Same applies for brand of string. I’ve tried them all in 25 years and always go back to Elixer Nanowebs.

  • @gettindrunker
    @gettindrunker 4 года назад

    You play very beautifully sir. I recently went from nickel bronze to 80/20 on my solid wood Alvarez and was sold until after 3 sessions and now they’re dead sounding. They sounded phenomenal out the package though. Thanks for the video brother!

    • @AlexPriceMusician
      @AlexPriceMusician  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for sharing your experience! Yes I have definitely noticed that 80/20’s seem to tarnish much quicker than Phosphor Bronze

  • @50mmnikonainikkor55
    @50mmnikonainikkor55 26 дней назад

    Helpful video this .I honestly, personally like the bronze 80/20 better.

  • @SingSurfStrum
    @SingSurfStrum 3 года назад

    Great video, super useful 80/20 sounds clearer to me and what I like. Thank you

  • @alexcojorian1306
    @alexcojorian1306 4 года назад +1

    I've been using 80/20, but after your comparison I'll try PB, they're round and well balanced. Great job!!

    • @AlexPriceMusician
      @AlexPriceMusician  4 года назад

      Thanks for commenting Alex! Let me know how they work for you

  • @lb2455
    @lb2455 Год назад

    Love "A Day in the Life" take there on both sets, gorgeous!

  • @cszollinger
    @cszollinger 4 года назад +2

    Great demo! I like them both. I think while the PBs are bigger and fuller sounding, some time just sound way better on 89/20s. They're a little less stringy on the high end.
    I use both. I have my '76 Guild strung with 80/20s (currently caught between light Martin M140s and D'addario mediums) and my '87 Taylor with medium D'addario PBs. That way I can get that vibey early 70s acoustic tone, especially in open tunings a la Stephen Stills or Neil Young and a much bigger acoustic tone that works for everything else.

  • @theotherside001
    @theotherside001 9 месяцев назад

    Excellent demo ! Thank you!

  • @marcscordato4385
    @marcscordato4385 4 года назад +1

    Beauty is in the ear of the be hearer . To each his own I prefers the warmer sound of phosphorus bronze . Having said I would be happy to add an 80/20 guitar to my collection the clean sound is good for finger picking

  • @PeterSchuett
    @PeterSchuett Год назад

    Great comparison!
    But to be fully meaningful one should have the same comparison not just with fresh strings, but also one day, one week, one month and three month on.
    I believe that that would change the picture radically.

  • @cptwillard2448
    @cptwillard2448 3 года назад +1

    Excellent demo no gimmicks or twatiness, great guitar playing, for me it's the phospher bronze (which coincidentally l have just bought a set) richer fuller sound. Thanks

    • @snarlador
      @snarlador 3 года назад

      Haha twatiness nice I know exactly what you mean

  • @paddyc8200
    @paddyc8200 3 года назад +4

    I’m a phosphor guy but dude that guitar sounds amazing with 80/20 like absolutely amazing!

  • @devine_noise
    @devine_noise 3 года назад +6

    I liked the 80/20s. I'd have to cut out more low end with the Phosphors to not fight my bass sounds. I would use the Phosphors if the music wasn't guitar-focused and I just wanted to blend it into the mix though.

  • @sabretooth9830534552
    @sabretooth9830534552 4 года назад

    Thanks Alex. It's phosphorus for me. Loved the yesterday fingerpickin at the end. Keep it up

  • @TazoAmaral
    @TazoAmaral 2 года назад

    Excelent comparsion! Congrats!

  • @jessejamesburnitt
    @jessejamesburnitt 4 года назад

    Great comparison video! Thanks for that.

  • @dividedbytimestudios
    @dividedbytimestudios 6 месяцев назад

    I’ve been playing phosphor so long on my J-45 I forgot what 80/20’s sound like, I need to revisit a set on my Gibson

  • @windmillcancersurvivor2568
    @windmillcancersurvivor2568 8 месяцев назад

    Superb playing. Surprised how close they were but the PH/BR won the day with to my ear a rounder, even balance. My fav guys all use these as do I with my D 18 and electrics. Just today a 3 pack of the XS coated 80/20 showed up. I look forward trying them out for the 1st time. Thanks

  • @ramspencer5492
    @ramspencer5492 4 месяца назад

    I was digging the 80/20s myself... Phosphor bronze is great If it's just solo guitar playing....phosphor bronze has more mids.. if it's guitar and voice... The mid scoop leaves a more room For the vocals... Additionally 8020s generally need less work to sit well in a mix.

  • @japeshverma
    @japeshverma 7 месяцев назад

    I came to hear the difference between the 2, but was lost in your tunes. Well played man.
    Also, the 80/20s sounded much better to my ears than the PBs (which were a little dull on the highs). I have an F310 (dread), which already has good lows, and using the 80/20s on it will make the sound more balanced.
    Thanks for the comparison btw.

  • @shred5
    @shred5 5 месяцев назад

    I am generally a fan of phosphor bronze strings over brass strings, but sometimes brass strings are really nice for fingerstyle playing, especially on mahogany guitars.

  • @JayBeBerg
    @JayBeBerg 2 года назад

    Good demo, thanks. On this guitar the 80/20's sound more pleasing at first but actually the phosphors have this mix ready eq:d sound that brings out both the sparkle and bark of the guitar.

  • @maxpower975
    @maxpower975 3 года назад

    Thanks so much buddy you helped me and for sure many others to choose the right one.

  • @beckashwin
    @beckashwin 4 года назад +1

    Finally my query has been answered 🙌 Greetings from India

  • @jessejensen6866
    @jessejensen6866 4 года назад +2

    thank you, super helpful! was wondering what to choose. think the 80/20 will give my mini martin that extra bit to stand out.

  • @truthof7382
    @truthof7382 Год назад

    Thanks for the test. 80/20 all the way. Very nice playing, guitar sounds great. Makes me happy to see a young man putting proper.13 medium gauge on that Martin. I see young people putting .11s on martin dreads. Now cut the stings at the tuning pegs and we will be all set.

  • @thebluesrockers
    @thebluesrockers 7 месяцев назад

    Nickel Bronze are better if you want to bend the G-String. They might be a little brighter but they still have some warmth. 10-47 gage are awesome if you're someone who enjoys playing lead on an acoustic.

  • @giacomopandiani6290
    @giacomopandiani6290 2 года назад

    I’ve never put 80/20 on my L00 now I’m quite curious. Tomorrow I’ll swap my strings! Thank you so much man!

  • @justme-wh5li
    @justme-wh5li 3 года назад

    Thanks for this. New to guitar, and super clear. good demo.

  • @InsideTheStadium
    @InsideTheStadium Год назад

    Your awesome bro, thanks for the help, Rockstar 👑🍻

  • @joseferraz4120
    @joseferraz4120 4 месяца назад

    Nice comparison! thanks, man!

  • @Isosceles1
    @Isosceles1 Год назад

    Guitar strings are analogous to cymbals. There is B20 (80% copper, 20% tin). It sounds warm, complex, and open. B8 cymbals (92% copper, 8% tin) are bright, focused, and loud. To my ears, guitar strings have the same character as cymbals of the same alloy.