The Collapse of Lehman Brothers - A Simple Overview

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  • @doomerboomer4148
    @doomerboomer4148 3 года назад +2395

    I remember when I went to see Despicable me the Bank of Evil was formerly known as Lehman Brothers. I was the only one in the theater who laughed at that joke.

    • @joshuajoe1419
      @joshuajoe1419 3 года назад +172

      That was the only good joke in the entire franchise.

    • @FriendlyTume
      @FriendlyTume 3 года назад +356

      @@joshuajoe1419 actually the first movie was pretty good because Illumination didn’t know that they could put in no effort and break 32 records

    • @joshuajoe1419
      @joshuajoe1419 3 года назад +123

      @@FriendlyTume yeah, after that movie, Illumination basically turned into a money maker with no character

    • @PP-xs7hu
      @PP-xs7hu 3 года назад +5

      Nerd

    • @the1tacoirvin
      @the1tacoirvin 3 года назад +1

      @@FriendlyTume and

  • @danjones2164
    @danjones2164 3 года назад +1820

    Note to self: Don’t play Monopoly with Company Man.

    • @TheStarswearee
      @TheStarswearee 3 года назад +28

      Yo can i take that note with me. Autully i wanna see someone play monopoly with him.

    • @vend3ttaverano778
      @vend3ttaverano778 3 года назад +7

      he didn’t like it, we have a chance

    • @possiblyrei
      @possiblyrei 3 года назад +7

      I challenge him.

    • @Itsbully06
      @Itsbully06 3 года назад +5

      i prefer, uno

    • @possiblyrei
      @possiblyrei 3 года назад +4

      @@Itsbully06 I beat me dad 5 times in a row at bts uno

  • @AdjectiveOtter
    @AdjectiveOtter 3 года назад +2583

    I want an episode on the Company that Company Man get all his stock photos and B-roll footage from.

    • @TheStarswearee
      @TheStarswearee 3 года назад +42

      Bro fr

    • @NickHazletonMusic
      @NickHazletonMusic 3 года назад +40

      Pexels and unsplash

    • @SimonVanliew26
      @SimonVanliew26 3 года назад +16

      Shutterstock? No thanks man

    • @WDCallahan
      @WDCallahan 3 года назад +15

      Video blocks, most likely.

    • @Kleavers
      @Kleavers 3 года назад +37

      I cant watch these videos anymore because of the terrible stock footage. After 5 minutes I just shut it off. Its better to just listen.

  • @formulahank1250
    @formulahank1250 3 года назад +1354

    "Cotton was a big deal back then, especially in the South" might be the gravest understatement this channel has ever made

    • @flynn659
      @flynn659 3 года назад +50

      He ain't wrong, the South was one of the biggest exporters of cotton that Britain(sort of) sided with the Confederates as it effected their economy, and the Ottoman Empire showed much support for the Union since they were competing with the South over cotton.

    • @iankamau222
      @iankamau222 3 года назад +31

      *Cough 😒

    • @troy8763
      @troy8763 3 года назад +171

      @@flynn659 I think you missed the point my friend...it rhymes with bravery lol.

    • @flynn659
      @flynn659 3 года назад +38

      @@troy8763 What's wrong with Bakeries?

    • @NYCBG
      @NYCBG 3 года назад +5

      @@flynn659 They “effect” affect

  • @Castrohelena-qf1wo
    @Castrohelena-qf1wo Год назад +1019

    Since the beginning of the year, I have purchased a few equities, but nothing significant. Why am I being so unkind to this? The fact that others in my field make six figures per piece, nevertheless, motivates me to want to be the first member of my polygamous family to earn a million dollars. I am fully aware of the expense of working more to earn more money.

    • @charlotteflair1043
      @charlotteflair1043 Год назад +4

      I experienced the same thing; within the year, my growing tech portfolio was completely destroyed.

    • @marcelrobert9569
      @marcelrobert9569 Год назад +1

      You're not doing anything incorrectly; you simply lack the expertise to capitalize in a down market. Professionals with extensive expertise who must have witnessed the 2008 crisis are the only ones who may profit significantly during turbulent times like this.

    • @marcelrobert9569
      @marcelrobert9569 Год назад +1

      @@lucid480 You may locate Julie Anne Hoover using a search engine, of course. But I'm not sure if I have authorization to talk about this. She received a lot of media attention in 2020. She manages my portfolio and serves as my mentor.

    • @neoxyte
      @neoxyte Год назад +20

      Scam thread

    • @Cameroonian
      @Cameroonian Год назад

      All the above "people" are scammers.

  • @TristanSamuel
    @TristanSamuel 3 года назад +865

    Do the Dutch East India company! If you are gonna review the world's largest bankruptcy, you should review the world's first company, plus they invented the stock market!

    • @danilobaudelair
      @danilobaudelair 3 года назад +59

      they were the biggest slave traders to the american continent :( i hope he mentions it

    • @brettrobinson9713
      @brettrobinson9713 3 года назад +1

      bump

    • @noel3700
      @noel3700 3 года назад +12

      G E K O L O N I S E E R D

    • @classified150
      @classified150 3 года назад +9

      G E K O L O N I S E E R D

    • @jarumboy1
      @jarumboy1 3 года назад +58

      @@danilobaudelair incorrect, that was the West India Company. They actually were different companies.

  • @justbuggin67
    @justbuggin67 3 года назад +727

    “The real estate market may have been overinflated.”
    California enters chat

    • @darnit1944
      @darnit1944 3 года назад +53

      *Homeless rate angrily types*

    • @jamesbaxter222
      @jamesbaxter222 3 года назад +12

      I don’t know if this is the case though. Since California serves as the portal to large East Asian economies(China, Japan, South Korea, India) wouldn’t Californian real estate be highly valued. Especially since China, India, and South Korea are all growing economies.

    • @darnit1944
      @darnit1944 3 года назад +39

      @@jamesbaxter222 They are too highly valued, due to regulations, that basic housing could cost a lot. That's why people usually cant afford housing if they are not rich.

    • @FishFind3000
      @FishFind3000 3 года назад +30

      1 million, for the same house that here would cost 300k MAX in a nice area. When it’s $600 per sqft I think it’s a bit much.

    • @ayleentrujillo2736
      @ayleentrujillo2736 3 года назад +4

      Miami entered the chat

  • @brianmulholland2467
    @brianmulholland2467 3 года назад +308

    My favorite thing about the Lehman story that didn't get mentioned in that internal memos showed that when the crunch started and Bear-Stearns got bailed out, Lehman's executives response wasn't 'Oh, wow, these things are risky. We should protect ourselves before we get into bad shape!'. Instead, their reaction was 'If the Fed is going to bail out Bear-Stearns, which is tiny compared to us, they'll DEFINITELY bail us out. Let's buy more!!!!' Lehman Bros is Exhibit A as to why bailouts are ALWAYS bad ideas.

    • @yuridavila6095
      @yuridavila6095 3 года назад +37

      No bail outs, just let them fail.
      If something is too big to fail it shouldn't be allowed to grow so big in the first place.

    • @daviddl3926
      @daviddl3926 3 года назад +11

      I'm not a fan of huge companies but if they don't get bailed out, lots of people would lose their jobs.

    • @yuridavila6095
      @yuridavila6095 3 года назад +41

      @@daviddl3926 It doesn't matter, companies are supposed to fail, it's creative destruction. Fired workers will then be employed by companies that have better management and didn't take bad risks.

    • @brianmulholland2467
      @brianmulholland2467 3 года назад +33

      @@daviddl3926 Well, Lehman WAS allowed to go bankrupt and it's pieces were (reluctantly) bought up by other banks. It's contracts were serviced by the purchasers. What I'm talking about is not bailing out Bear-Stearns which was small by comparison, would have been EVEN MORE EASILY bought by another concern but would have scared larger banks like Lehman into pulling out of their nose-dive.
      But even GM was a case study in why NOT to bailout large companies. It got bailed out and then went bankrupt anyway. But despite going bankrupt, the mythological supply chain collapse that the disaster preachers warned of never materialized. In reality, companies can continue to operate under bankruptcy. The catastrophic outcomes of letting companies fail NEVER turns out to be as bad in reality as claimed. But the downside of signalling to every other company of similar size or larger that the taxpayer's checkbook is open and ready for business has both fiscal consequences and moral hazard.

    • @daviddl3926
      @daviddl3926 3 года назад +13

      I was also thinking that bailing out big companies is unfair for both the consumers and the competitors of that market. Because pretty much they're immune to failure if the government keeps bailing them out...

  • @JoakimKanon
    @JoakimKanon 3 года назад +53

    So the Bank of Evil started with the ”cotton industry”? Yeah, checks out.

  • @ItsBobbieDrake
    @ItsBobbieDrake 3 года назад +301

    I moved to NYC fresh out of high school and the first job I had there was working at a restaurant right across from Lehman Brothers that always had their executives in there. We knew they were going down from as early as February from hearing all the chitchat. It's crazy much 'the help' learns from just staying quiet and listening.

    • @javajav3004
      @javajav3004 3 года назад +34

      So did you buy puts?

    • @cinemaparadiso5402
      @cinemaparadiso5402 3 года назад +22

      I just want to warn everybody: it's ANTI-SEMITIC to criticize ANY BANK, INSURANCE INDUSTRY, FINANCIAL SERVICES, CASINOS, HOLLYWOOD OR WASHINGTON.

    • @jackslepowron5905
      @jackslepowron5905 3 года назад +10

      @@cinemaparadiso5402 oy vey

    • @Kazaam818
      @Kazaam818 2 года назад +1

      @@cinemaparadiso5402 BAHAHAH

    • @gp10020
      @gp10020 2 года назад +9

      @@cinemaparadiso5402 very funny, very true! i was always remember hearing - in washington you could say anything about anybody - but if you say anything negative about israel, you're career is over

  • @mbralliable
    @mbralliable 3 года назад +143

    In Japan, people call the 2008 financial crisis "Lehman shock".

  • @msbae
    @msbae 3 года назад +606

    Sounds like they put all their eggs in a very poorly made basket.

    • @setcheck67
      @setcheck67 3 года назад +47

      More then that, they essentially made the same mistake all those sub-prime mortgage buyers made. They took out loans they couldn't pay with the idea said loan would be less than the amount they gained. Talk about karma... The sad thing is we STILL see housing markets exploding in value now because people keep trying to use it as a get rich quick scheme. It's probably already due for another crash in certain states where the average wage absolutely cannot afford housing there.

    • @MarsJenkar
      @MarsJenkar 3 года назад +23

      @@setcheck67 Especially since a lot of younger people have been perpetually priced out of the housing market. Essentially taking the brunt of what is now _two_ major economic crashes has lasting effects.

    • @Shenaldrac
      @Shenaldrac 3 года назад +13

      @@MarsJenkar And the "best" part is that we younger people get to be told that we should stop complaining and just pull ourselves up by our bootstraps! Y'know, because outside circumstances don't ever prevent people from being successful. If you fail, it's on _you._ /s

    • @angolin9352
      @angolin9352 3 года назад +5

      @@MarsJenkar 4 major economic recessions. There was one in the early 1990s, another in the aftermath of 9/11, the 2008 one this video talks about, and the 2020 one caused by the disease RUclips won't let people say (and the pathetic government response to the disease).

    • @JohnSmith-wx9wj
      @JohnSmith-wx9wj 3 года назад +1

      @@MarsJenkar I'm trying to understand why anyone is expected to perpetually prop up a bubble.

  • @paigeconnelly4244
    @paigeconnelly4244 3 года назад +106

    Imagine being a company SO HUGE that your bankruptcy causes recessions in the most powerful economies around the world, and the total collapse of many others...

    • @martinduran9523
      @martinduran9523 Год назад +6

      Absolutely disgusting. These companies have no right to cause recessions that hit poor people the hardest through their stupid decision making. Banks should have tighter regulations.

    • @Laotzu.Goldbug
      @Laotzu.Goldbug Год назад +12

      Well this is a significant exaggeration. Lehman Brothers going under was certainly a very Infamous result part of the 2008 financial crisis/recession but absolutely not the thing that caused it or the major driver.

    • @staringcorgi6475
      @staringcorgi6475 Год назад

      @@Laotzu.Goldbug other banks did the same

    • @aleksamarinkovic355
      @aleksamarinkovic355 Год назад +4

      This company absolutely did not cause recession on its own, it was an industry-wide problem, and all of the firms were doing the exact same things which caused this huge crash, it was not one decision or two, it was a bunch of bad decisions across the whole industry that piled up over the years like influencing government to keep derivatives deregulated, giving risky house loans to people who have bad credit scores, etc. this is much bigger than one company. They made these decisions because it made them so much money short term.
      Lehman Brothers is purposely being singled out and portrayed as a bad guy so all of you people who don't understand what happened can have someone to blame. And thats why the government didn't bale it out. In reality, the government itself was strongly prohibiting regulation of derivatives, not looking into risky loans and agencies that rated securities, and is to blame for the same amount as all of the other investment banks, the problem is that all the people who had the power to do something were paid off in hundreds of millions per person, so that's why nothing was done.

    • @PrimitiveAK
      @PrimitiveAK 28 дней назад

      NVIDIA with a $3 TRILLION dollar market cap. Y’all better pray that company stays above water 😂😂

  • @jellybr3ak
    @jellybr3ak 3 года назад +60

    Economics Explained: Take a break.
    Company Man: Look at me. I am the explainer now.

  • @alexdaly8360
    @alexdaly8360 3 года назад +65

    "By the turn of the century the cotton business wasn't quite what it used to be"
    True, I feel like you are leaving out some context there though...

  • @Dinini
    @Dinini 3 года назад +6

    Ok so then they started off slavery

    • @mcuserton
      @mcuserton 3 года назад +3

      Using the product of it as currency, yep.

  • @Je.rone_
    @Je.rone_ 3 года назад +372

    If you would like this and haven't seen The Big Short then you're missing out

    • @AxxLAfriku
      @AxxLAfriku 3 года назад +1

      KAKAKAKAKAKAK this is wonderful! PRANK! It is terrible! I looked in the mirror and saw something UNPRETTY: my face. KAKAKAKAKAKA! But I am happy agayn because I have TWO HOT GIRLFRIENDS and I use them to get views on my videos! KAKAKAKAK!!! Good day, dear vito

    • @ExPwner
      @ExPwner 3 года назад +24

      Meh it was okay but full of agenda and political bias. Misleading at some points. Would not recommend for trying to educate yourself using Hollywood as the educator.

    • @alloe6609
      @alloe6609 3 года назад +3

      That movie is about how Batman got rich!

    • @higorcarvalho920
      @higorcarvalho920 3 года назад +5

      Great movie!

    • @Curryboikutty
      @Curryboikutty 3 года назад +27

      @@AxxLAfriku what rhe fu-

  • @txbased1659
    @txbased1659 3 года назад +162

    Virtual hugs to early squad

  • @gregsmith1548
    @gregsmith1548 3 года назад +86

    4:51 “by the turn of the (19th) century the cotton business wasn’t quite what it used to be” major understatement lol

    • @kazak8926
      @kazak8926 2 года назад +1

      Turn of the 20th, not 19th. 19th would be 1800s, 20th would be the 1900s.

  • @bebop504
    @bebop504 Год назад +160

    My dad passed away during the same week all of this happened in September 2008. I remember watching the news and it was absolute chaos and pandemonium, plus the recession and lack of jobs. With the death of my dad at the same time, it felt like the whole world was crashing down. I was 16 years old, trying to find a job during a recession, everyone was poor, people were losing their homes, and I couldn’t even find a job at a fast food joint. What a depressing time period. (at least for me)

    • @khalilflier1538
      @khalilflier1538 Год назад +15

      Glad you made it through man

    • @bebop504
      @bebop504 Год назад +23

      @@khalilflier1538 I’m a woman but thank you I appreciate it. Definitely in a better place now.

    • @hasnainfareed9629
      @hasnainfareed9629 Год назад

      I want to talk to You about this, can I have anything to contact You please.

    • @1234KeithB
      @1234KeithB Год назад +2

      @@bebop504 I can relate. To your name anyway

    • @Marc98338
      @Marc98338 Год назад +5

      Wow what a time that must have been. Hope youve a less stressful life now.

  • @therobotdevil2284
    @therobotdevil2284 3 года назад +343

    I've never heard someone explain the housing crisis so succinctly, go company man!

    • @ginettep904
      @ginettep904 3 года назад +15

      Go watch the movie...the big short

    • @therobotdevil2284
      @therobotdevil2284 3 года назад +10

      @@ginettep904 I've actually seen it, it's a good one! I more meant like I've never heard someone explain the whole ordeal so well in a matter of seconds. Go company man!

    • @companyman114
      @companyman114  3 года назад +47

      Thanks you very much. That was the whole reason I was apprehensive about making this video.

    • @Britspence381
      @Britspence381 3 года назад +1

      I agree 100%. I had read some things about the housing crisis but Company Man did a great synopsis.

    • @charlescox290
      @charlescox290 3 года назад +6

      @@companyman114 I don't here where you mentioned the government was forcing banks to approve many of the subprime loans.

  • @LS-gl1ro
    @LS-gl1ro 3 года назад +472

    I'll never forget being called to a last minute all hands meeting in 2007 just to tell us that we were being laid off in a few weeks. We knew it was coming because we monitored a website that tracked all of the other bank closures and we had just opened a branch only to be told that one would closing too.

    • @ginettep904
      @ginettep904 3 года назад +7

      Did you use to work for Lehman Brothers?

    • @RamenBowl2.0
      @RamenBowl2.0 3 года назад +212

      @@ginettep904 No, he worked for Pizza Hut. That's why he was commenting about being laid off on a video about the Lehman Brothers

    • @ginettep904
      @ginettep904 3 года назад +44

      @@RamenBowl2.0 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😅 good point!

    • @katerinapeklenk2016
      @katerinapeklenk2016 3 года назад +3

      :'( That's so sad.

    • @andrewbuhman1066
      @andrewbuhman1066 3 года назад +6

      Yeah, getting laid off sucks. Been there and done that...

  • @doclank3d6
    @doclank3d6 3 года назад +107

    Ah, 2008. Another dumpster fire year like 2020.

    • @bananya6020
      @bananya6020 3 года назад +17

      get ready for a lot more of them lol

    • @Umbrax9063
      @Umbrax9063 3 года назад +16

      Imagine 2028

    • @brandonsaquariumsandterrar8985
      @brandonsaquariumsandterrar8985 3 года назад +8

      @@Umbrax9063 PANIK!

    • @mattyian1208
      @mattyian1208 3 года назад +7

      2008 and 2020 were the worst years in modern history since World War II.

    • @ObsessedCollector
      @ObsessedCollector 3 года назад +9

      2008 WAS PURE TRASH! I'll take 5 2020's over one 2008. It was THAT bad

  • @kidamazin
    @kidamazin 3 года назад +239

    "Cotton Farmers" is one way to call it I guess.

    • @billpiechocki
      @billpiechocki 3 года назад +6

      @Nigel Robinson, I see what you did there.

    • @bilboswaggings1826
      @bilboswaggings1826 3 года назад +34

      My sentiments exactly kinda disappointed how laissez faire he was about it but hey..

    • @PrydeWater901
      @PrydeWater901 3 года назад +13

      There was a whole thread about this particular subject that just up and magically disappeared. 👻

    • @jonusjonus9271
      @jonusjonus9271 3 года назад +16

      @@bilboswaggings1826 disappointed?? oh yea, he should have spent at least 10 minutes talking about slavery in the south...cause that's what this video is about...

    • @bilboswaggings1826
      @bilboswaggings1826 3 года назад +5

      @@jonusjonus9271 this thread isn't for you clearly enjoy your video

  • @TaxEvasionUS
    @TaxEvasionUS 3 года назад +233

    "Cotton farmers" is a nice way to say slave owners

    • @nyki7fykxtjxyi
      @nyki7fykxtjxyi 3 года назад +18

      Slavery still exists today in China

    • @neetloop173
      @neetloop173 3 года назад +16

      James Lane in the middle east and Africa too. The kafala system is basically slavery. Hopefully one day they get up to speed on human rights

    • @jonc6157
      @jonc6157 3 года назад +24

      Many were Not, some were, Mr. Virtue Troll.

    • @LondonWalkability
      @LondonWalkability 3 года назад +13

      @@nyki7fykxtjxyi who cares about China were talking about the US

    • @xlixity
      @xlixity 3 года назад +12

      @@LondonWalkability Who cares about the US this about banks.

  • @Markimark151
    @Markimark151 3 года назад +268

    Lehman Bros. acted a lot like Bain Capital in the 2000s, company man should do a video on Bain Capital, one of the worst companies that lead to multiple bankruptcies of retailers and restaurants!

    • @Starry_Night_Sky7455
      @Starry_Night_Sky7455 3 года назад +4

      Yeah that one. Do a video.

    • @Markimark151
      @Markimark151 3 года назад +23

      @@Starry_Night_Sky7455 I want him rip on Bain Capital and Sun Capital Partners, since they had people from Lehman Bros.

    • @devingiles6597
      @devingiles6597 3 года назад +16

      I can see it now. Bain Capital - Why They're Hated.

    • @BiroZombie
      @BiroZombie 3 года назад +10

      It seems that they're the "bain" (bane) of everyone's existence.

    • @Markimark151
      @Markimark151 3 года назад +17

      @@BiroZombie literally, that company has done so much damage to stores like Toys R Us, Gymboree, regional department stores, even iHeart Media!

  • @ltoe199
    @ltoe199 3 года назад +108

    "cotton Farmers"

    • @Alice-od3bw
      @Alice-od3bw 3 года назад +39

      also know as slave owners

    • @Meton2526
      @Meton2526 3 года назад +19

      @@Alice-od3bw Not all of them. The big plantations of course required slave labor, but if you're trading cotton at a dry goods store, you were probably a small subsistence farmer that was just growing whatever could buy some beans to eat.

    • @ericbosken3114
      @ericbosken3114 3 года назад +13

      I was thinking, "He has to know, right?"

    • @russianbot8576
      @russianbot8576 3 года назад +4

      literally my thought too

    • @rxzaya
      @rxzaya 3 года назад

      @@Meton2526 required isn’t the right word

  • @The105ODST
    @The105ODST 3 года назад +84

    The Bank of Evil (Formerly Lehman Brothers)

    • @nick5422
      @nick5422 3 года назад +4

      Thought of that too lol

    • @theshadowman1398
      @theshadowman1398 3 года назад +5

      Goldman Sachs now has that crown

    • @mrnemo204
      @mrnemo204 3 года назад +3

      Literally profited from Slavery!

  • @carsoncordelli9557
    @carsoncordelli9557 3 года назад +185

    The real estate industry crackdown clipped Evergrande's wings, stopped it taking on more debt and had the flow-on effect of forcing it to sell apartments at a discount so cash would continue rolling in.

    • @hassanzackir3949
      @hassanzackir3949 3 года назад

      Evergrande is worried it won't be able to sell apartments quickly enough to meet its debt repayments.

    • @goergejones6861
      @goergejones6861 3 года назад +2

      Real estate makes up a substantial share - more than a quarter - of China's economy, which is the second largest in the world.

    • @luriabenson2376
      @luriabenson2376 3 года назад +1

      @@goergejones6861 What is really happening to the world Economy? Economy crisis everywhere🤦‍♂️.

    • @ebonicalbert5711
      @ebonicalbert5711 3 года назад +1

      @@goergejones6861 Australian iron ore is exported to China to make steel, much of which is used for for construction, so a crash in property sales and apartment developments could hit our exports. The world needs to know this.

    • @donaldrounds1408
      @donaldrounds1408 3 года назад

      For context, the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade says Australia exported almost $85 billion worth of iron ore and concentrates to China in 2019-20.

  • @marcushebron5560
    @marcushebron5560 3 года назад +26

    "cotton farmers"......ok.......

  • @jonathankessler7436
    @jonathankessler7436 3 года назад +121

    lehman brothers engaged in fraud and crimes on a large scale. there's nothing sad about a business like that going under, even if it was around since 1850.

    • @AmateurContendr
      @AmateurContendr 3 года назад +28

      SERIOUSLY. That remark bugged me. To shed a tear for an old school establishment company like this was really strange. I'd legit would rather feel bad for the woes of Walmart or Amazon than these people.

    • @AmateurContendr
      @AmateurContendr 3 года назад +28

      @@girlgreenivy I got a kick out of how he acted like it was an odd, random thing.
      "Believe it or not but shockingly the southern US had a thing for cotton before the civil war. It sounds silly, I know. Like why might that even be, it's so strange and random."

    • @iman5147
      @iman5147 3 года назад +7

      @@AmateurContendr
      I think it was on purpose. Just dry humor at its finest

    • @flakgun153
      @flakgun153 3 года назад +7

      There was no fraud or crimes. People call every single financial company's issues fraud sound like idiots.
      They literally didn't do anything wrong other than trust the system.

    • @raptorfromthe6ix833
      @raptorfromthe6ix833 2 года назад +1

      @@AmateurContendr because a lot of people who had nothing to with fraud got screwed over ie worker and besides if you started a company and some dumbass successor ruined it all wouldnt you be pissed

  • @KeemySmith122
    @KeemySmith122 3 года назад +209

    This just proofs that anything can happen to anything, even if its a big thing.

    • @MandrakeFernflower
      @MandrakeFernflower 3 года назад +9

      Dr. Strange: I went forward in time... to view alternate futures. To see all the possible outcomes of the coming conflict.
      Peter Quill: How many did you see?
      Dr. Strange: Fourteen million six hundred and five.
      Tony Stark: How many did we win?
      Dr. Strange: ...One.

    • @somedude9528
      @somedude9528 3 года назад

      What is it with brother duos in business and major screw-ups?

    • @ineedspace128m2
      @ineedspace128m2 3 года назад +4

      Unless your name is Disney

    • @AlexKS1992
      @AlexKS1992 3 года назад +3

      If a young angry punk named Gavrilo Princip can shoot a prince and his wife and start all the mayhem and carnage that to this day that we are still reeling from I’m sure just about anything can bring down an empire.

    • @DoomFinger511
      @DoomFinger511 3 года назад +3

      And things can happen when other things happen at anytime for reasons!

  • @richardburns420dale3
    @richardburns420dale3 3 года назад +41

    funny that the company beat its competitors by dealing in risky industries and they ended up going down doing high risk business.

  • @iangreer4585
    @iangreer4585 Год назад +7

    Who's here after Silicon Valley?
    Edit: Not even 8 hours into having written this, and it is now given the title by CNBC as the "Biggest Bank Failure since 2008".... We are in the Economic Armegeddon, my friends...

    • @kascnef
      @kascnef Год назад

      Me yoo

    • @duitk
      @duitk Год назад

      This comment aged poorly, we did not in fact hit economic Armageddon, more like a granade explosion, still bad but manageable.

    • @iangreer4585
      @iangreer4585 Год назад

      @@duitk There are two back-to-back quotes stated from a Shakespearian play I think of when I read this.
      "The Ides of March have come."
      "Ay, but not gone."

    • @duitk
      @duitk Год назад

      @@iangreer4585 maybe, we will see, people are always predicting economic Armageddon, oh it will happen eventually, some day, it always does. However for now, we are just stuck in economic mediocrity.

  • @valmarsiglia
    @valmarsiglia 3 года назад +4

    I had an interview at Lehman HQ in NYC with their graphics department just a couple of months before all this happened. Talk about not getting a ticket on the Titanic.

  • @28ebdh3udnav
    @28ebdh3udnav 3 года назад +63

    We're still waiting for the next video.
    *RUclips - Why They're Hated*

  • @TristanSamuel
    @TristanSamuel 3 года назад +157

    I've never even heard of Lehman Brothers. To think that they were this large while and I didn't even know about them.

    • @_.Leo_.
      @_.Leo_. 3 года назад +33

      Because you're peak poor.

    • @angelsaavedra633
      @angelsaavedra633 3 года назад +8

      @@_.Leo_. rude

    • @funnyitworkedlasttime6611
      @funnyitworkedlasttime6611 3 года назад +26

      Were you an adult in 2008?

    • @clp275
      @clp275 3 года назад +11

      @@funnyitworkedlasttime6611 I certainly wasn’t, so I didn’t know anything about money or finance

    • @sabrina.natalie
      @sabrina.natalie 3 года назад +21

      Tristan Samuel - Oh really, wow. That’s surprising. The collapse of Lehman Brothers was all over the news, so I’m surprised you’ve never heard of them. I enjoy watching the news, keeping up with politics, the economy, etc - so if you’re not a fan of that stuff, I can see how you can miss it.
      If you’re interested in learning more about the Lehman Brothers, I would recommend watching a documentary called: “Inside Lehman Brothers” on Amazon Prime.
      I would also recommend watching , “Inside Job” which is a documentary that covers the 2008 financial crisis. (And I love how MGMT is playing during the end credits.) You can rent Inside Job for $3.99 on Amazon Prime or on RUclips. Charles Ferguson, the director, has a few documentaries, that are good that you should check out.
      You can also watch the documentary called “Too big to Fail” on HBO. It also takes a deeper dive into the 2008 financial crisis, that Lehman Brothers was a part of. You can watch it on Hulu, if you have HBO Max. Or if you have HBO on your cable subscription package.
      Another documentary that I really love is this one: ruclips.net/video/QozGSS7QY_U/видео.html
      I love documentaries. So I hope that helps! 🤍

  • @missarielle2
    @missarielle2 3 года назад +26

    I bought my house in 2007. I was a first-time homebuyer with no savings. Banks were throwing approvals at me for loans so high that my mortgage would of been 60% of my gross pay. I made the smart financial choice to buy something far, far less than I was "approved" for and I'm glad I did because I would of been one of the folks to default too when 2 years later the worth of my house was half what I paid for it. It was an insane time that took over 10 years to recuperate from

    • @robertgibbs6154
      @robertgibbs6154 10 месяцев назад

      That's the exact same story as my own. Yeah, it took 10 years to break even, but I still have my home. I'm soooo glad that I paid attention to the math and didn't fall for the glitz at the time.

  • @sliphstream4927
    @sliphstream4927 2 года назад +41

    Important aspect to note; AIG insured these subprime mortgages so that banks would have a safety net when investing in them. Problem was, AIG didn't have enough liquid assets to cover them all when many of the loans went into default. Lehman Brothers was one such a bank that had the rug pulled from under their feet when the safety net didn't catch everything.

  • @MG42is
    @MG42is Год назад +4

    History always repeats itself.

  • @brmolnar
    @brmolnar 3 года назад +55

    Lehman was huge. In 2013, I moved into an apartment complex that ended up getting sold a year or so later. The apartment complex was owned by Lehman and it took 6 or 7 years after they went bankrupt to sell off this asset.

    • @bjbell52
      @bjbell52 3 года назад +11

      That would be around 2015. I still own $100 of their stock. It's probably worthless by now.

  • @hashslingingslasher8001
    @hashslingingslasher8001 3 года назад +25

    That Monopoly metaphor was spot on, never thought of explaining it that way!

  • @wanfu5634
    @wanfu5634 3 года назад +18

    Shortest analogy: They tried to juggle lawn darts and water balloons and got all wet as a result.

  • @jonathanlevoir4998
    @jonathanlevoir4998 Год назад +33

    At the time I worked for the bank that “took over” Lehmans operations in Europe (Nomura) - I was one of the first people onto the trading floor at their Bank Street offices in Canary Wharf. It looked like most of the traders had left in a big hurry actually ripping open most of the computers and removing the hard drives. Not sure if this was in an attempt to make it more difficult to “unpick” the portfolios or concerned at what Regulators might find ? Many of the traders doubled down and went to work for Lehman Brothers Administrators, who better to unwind a bank than the people who made the mess in the first place !

    • @b-id5wq
      @b-id5wq Год назад +1

      Interesting, still in the business?

    • @MartynThomas1
      @MartynThomas1 Год назад +3

      I worked for LB in their Bank Street office. I was let go in the 2nd (of 3) round of redundancies, in the March (LiFo). I still work with a guy who was there until the end.
      There were stories of people taking home the artwork hanging on the walls of the management floor.
      There were lots of assets like Blackberrys that were not returned and Season ticket loans that were never paid back.
      Mind you a lot of staff received annual bonuses in shares and so most staff lost 10s if not 100s of £1ks

    • @Caffeine_Addict_2020
      @Caffeine_Addict_2020 Год назад

      I know a decent amount of investment bankers and that sounds like something far beyond their capabilities. That sounds to me like the move of someone higher up taking them all out to destroy them, as you say

  • @charaznable2009
    @charaznable2009 3 года назад +36

    I worked at Lehman from the early 90's (High School) in the mail-room when it was partnered with American Express. Than I went back to work for them after college 2001-08 in the IT department (I still have my ID badge ...LoL) . The trade floor was getting smaller and smaller after the saving and loan crisis. It even wiped out whole floors that was dedicated to real estate loans. In the final days some people had to be escorted out by security because they couldn't believe that the job they where at for years was suddenly over. Some of the people I worked with was phased into the Barclay's company that took over. All I can say is Dick Fuld the ceo was truly a dick. He came out of this fine with a golden parachute.

  • @TheGIGACapitalist
    @TheGIGACapitalist 3 года назад +37

    >Break the law and get paid for it!
    I wish I was a bank.

  • @DarkSoul-ds2
    @DarkSoul-ds2 3 года назад +80

    You talk about them like they are a dear uncle who passed when in fact they knowingly screwed millions of people's futures

    • @chetansharma6344
      @chetansharma6344 3 года назад +14

      Their executives did it by being incompetent nincompoops. Why should that stain the legacy of those who actually helped others by being competent?

    • @chetansharma6344
      @chetansharma6344 3 года назад +6

      @Lego Yoda Only in the short term. It's called killing the golden goose and a clear sign of incompetency.

    • @jgeorge6081
      @jgeorge6081 3 года назад +6

      This is correct. Look up Principle Protected Structured Products. They sold them to old retirees as a safe investment. They can burn in hell.

    • @violinhunter2
      @violinhunter2 3 года назад

      He also left the government's role out entirely. It was Bill Clinton, Henry Cisneros, and Barney Frank that caused the huge bubble. Those three pushed the banks to make all those bad loans in the first place. Home ownership was treated like the holy grail at any cost.

    • @jgeorge6081
      @jgeorge6081 3 года назад +2

      @@violinhunter2 this is a common right wing talking point designed to deflect blame.

  • @thomastriesthings
    @thomastriesthings 3 года назад +12

    “Cotton Farmers”

  • @Ricky-ci4jx
    @Ricky-ci4jx 3 года назад +51

    I feel like this video painted the company in too much of a positive light.

    • @ArnulfoSalgado
      @ArnulfoSalgado 3 года назад +5

      Did you expect him to paint them in a negative light? It’s an objective business analysis, not a subjective moral review. I admit he missed details but he does mention that he prefers to do more overview-like commentary to keep the videos short. Which I disagree with, but whatever

    • @Ricky-ci4jx
      @Ricky-ci4jx 3 года назад +6

      @@ArnulfoSalgado My point is that the video wasn’t as objective as you suggest. For instance, he says: “it’s sad to see something so old go down like that” (2:43). That’s a subjective statement. Maybe it would be sad if the company helped society, but Lehman Brothers brought this on themselves, and regular people paid the price.

    • @raptorfromthe6ix833
      @raptorfromthe6ix833 2 года назад

      @@Ricky-ci4jx regular people did work in lehman brothers

    • @QuinctiliusVarus
      @QuinctiliusVarus 2 года назад +1

      Companies like Lehman Bros are essential. They provide liquidity to the marketplace.

    • @rolexomegaspecialist9411
      @rolexomegaspecialist9411 2 года назад

      It's called the HUMAN condition Ricky: and EVERYONE'S shyte stinks...

  • @OfficialMaxBox
    @OfficialMaxBox 3 года назад +7

    Lul @ not having enough stock footage for "cotton" and using Q-tips

  • @SnoopyDoofie
    @SnoopyDoofie 3 года назад +55

    The achilles heel: selling overhyped stuff to people who couldn't afford it and then being left with the cat in the bag.

  • @gustianopamukir6150
    @gustianopamukir6150 3 года назад +15

    Cotton farmer? Alabama? 1850s? So, lehman brother part of dark history of US, right?

  • @KingLeonidus117
    @KingLeonidus117 3 года назад +18

    I went in knowing nothing and came out thinking I could give my two cents on the subject if it came up in casual conversation. So yeah, really good job explaining it.

  • @zeanian
    @zeanian 3 года назад +14

    Informative but was dissapointed in how their beginning was explained. Cotton farm profits from 1850 deep south Alabama that ended near the end of the century: A N T E B E L L U M A M E R I C A N S L A V E R Y. Many people rewrite history out of trying to be politically correct but give up the chance to be accurate while doing that. Love your vids though.

  • @bloqk16
    @bloqk16 3 года назад +3

    Lehman Brothers always struck me as a title more appropriate for a chain of men's clothing stores.

  • @sarsaponia
    @sarsaponia 3 года назад +41

    when you’re very early but cant think of anything to say 😔

    • @ilikelamps1126
      @ilikelamps1126 3 года назад +3

      Personally I just watch the video

    • @Bisgaard91
      @Bisgaard91 3 года назад +6

      Then dont say anything...

    • @supercarspotter743
      @supercarspotter743 3 года назад +3

      Just stfu then

    • @sarsaponia
      @sarsaponia 3 года назад

      yeah understandable i normally dont but might as well attempt at getting a comment that has more than 1 like :/
      edit was fixing has, accidentally wrote had instead

    • @abddub
      @abddub 3 года назад

      Same

  • @patrickmdunn
    @patrickmdunn 3 года назад +19

    Man I almost forgot this firm existed its been so long. I like vids like that is about older companies, keep up the good work.

  • @whitesky18
    @whitesky18 Год назад +24

    You did very well in explaining "all of that".

  • @kyletaylor8806
    @kyletaylor8806 3 года назад +70

    Tip-toeing around saying saying the word 'slavery' was kind of comical. I understand you try to be uncontroversial as possible, but come on.

    • @AkitaSyn
      @AkitaSyn 3 года назад +8

      He probably did that so YT wouldn’t shadow the video

    • @nickr365
      @nickr365 Год назад +4

      Money motivates everything, it’s why RUclips is so much worse.

    • @rhglover
      @rhglover Год назад +3

      If you understand so much then why are you questioning it? Let the man display his respect and sensitivity for a very real thing that some groups of people still experience to this day

    • @face2much
      @face2much Год назад +1

      My exact thought 😂😂 “he earned enough to buy slaves” is the actual storer

  • @fightttttt
    @fightttttt 3 года назад +11

    Next one rise and fall of trump

    • @jacobh674
      @jacobh674 3 года назад

      Isn’t he still a billionaire?

    • @fightttttt
      @fightttttt 3 года назад

      @@jacobh674 rich yeah but billionare status is in doubt after his tax fraud and now that ny cancelled all his contracts and his billion dollar debt is going through the courts

  • @christopherconard2831
    @christopherconard2831 3 года назад +6

    The number you gave as their assets at the time of bankruptcy was totally fictional, and one of the reasons for the collapse. It was based on an older projection and that the market would continue to grow. In reality their assets were cash on hand and physical real estate outright owned by them that had also been greatly reduced in value.
    I know you usually focus on one company at a time, but would you consider doing a video on the various bubbles, and their collapse, in recent times like the tech industry of the 90's and real estate in the early 2000's? Both have similar roots in being based around ignorance, hype and hysteria, not the actual value of the businesses or what they created.

    • @ExPwner
      @ExPwner 3 года назад

      I second this. It would be very educational to get a bigger picture view of panics and crashes as well as the bad accounting and bad assumptions (ie “real estate always goes up”) that underpin each.

  • @halvey8518
    @halvey8518 3 года назад +9

    The Big Short is one of my favorite movies and really tells 2008 in the light that it should be. Banks didn’t care and thought the train would go on forever, the government agencies that were supposed to oversee them didn’t, and then the middle class and poor people’s tax dollars bailed out the banks while losing their homes.

    • @shawnmoney8055
      @shawnmoney8055 2 года назад

      One of the biggest crimes that people seem to forget smh

  • @Burkutace27
    @Burkutace27 3 года назад +12

    "We had some really good models, we just didn't factor in greed and panic."

  • @christennyson6276
    @christennyson6276 3 года назад +33

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      @johnjackson4185 3 года назад

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  • @Anicento
    @Anicento 3 года назад +7

    Here to ask you do a video on HEB a grocery retailer based out of Texas

  • @willpitts5223
    @willpitts5223 3 года назад +14

    Never clicked on a CM video so fast.

  • @likebot.
    @likebot. 3 года назад +7

    The fist week of September in 2008 I changed my RRSP (see 401K) from a conservative portfolio to aggressive and about three weeks later, when I lost a significant percentage of my retirement fund, I thought it was a disaster. But I left it and learned over time that investment brokers capitalize on difficult times and it turned out to be more fortunate for me in the long run. And 2020 has been another boon to my fortune when the Sock Rocket caught Covid-19 and my retirement fund took another roller-coaster ride.

  • @thepianoplayer416
    @thepianoplayer416 3 года назад +2

    The 1 thing missing is how the Chairman Rick Fuld walked away with millions while seeing LB liquidate its assets and workers out of work? Happens time & time again corporate CEOs walked away with financial compensations bigger than thee savings many of us accumulated in 1 lifetime. Like Tony Hayward who walked away with millions after the BP disaster in the Gulf of Mexico that disrupted the lives of many fishermen.

  • @Quantum-1157
    @Quantum-1157 2 года назад +5

    Well done. Just one suggestion: you should have added 2 minutes on how all of Wall Street was ‘in on the game” by paying handsome fees to credit rating agencies to ‘rate sub-prime MBS’s” much higher than they actually were. Also some investment banks were selling these mbs to their clients (with the inflated ratings and liberal assumptions in the analysis) while at the same time selling it in their prop books and prop trading desks ! This was going for months before the bubble burst.

  • @KrusteyDaKlown
    @KrusteyDaKlown 3 года назад +29

    You forgot to talk about how through all of this Dick Fuld who was the CEO got over 300million in compensation while the company went bankrupt.

    • @russianbot8576
      @russianbot8576 3 года назад +1

      that's just standard fare for CEOs and other high management, while the lowest on the chain basically get fucked.

    • @bjbell52
      @bjbell52 3 года назад +4

      He sent everyone in the firm an e-mail telling them not to worry; that Lehman didn't hold that many MBS's or Derivatives. He then immediately took his golden parachute and took and early retirement. I knew at the time he was spreading B.S. because at the time my job required me to go through all the buys and sells of derivatives for the firm.

  • @MasterCrafter02
    @MasterCrafter02 3 года назад +9

    This video just makes me want Company Man to review the movie The Big Short

  • @husaindaud5569
    @husaindaud5569 2 года назад +8

    For a below average person in understanding such concepts, at the end of your explanation I was able to grasp a lot.
    Not only that , but I also explained this to my colleagues , most of them were impressed.

  • @Oniontrololol
    @Oniontrololol 3 года назад +7

    My friend lost all his savings thanks to Lehman, he commuted suicide 3 weeks after the collapse of Lehman. RIP.

    • @carlothechamp8692
      @carlothechamp8692 3 года назад +3

      That's messed up

    • @yurichtube1162
      @yurichtube1162 2 года назад

      Many people commited suicide in 2008. The entire world suffered for greedy american banks.

    • @PlatformerFan
      @PlatformerFan 2 года назад

      My condolences. May he rest in peace.

  • @Pravin_Yeshua_BTC
    @Pravin_Yeshua_BTC Год назад +2

    Hi. I’m from the future. It’s Mar 2023 now & Lehman Brothers are back in the conversation because American banks are failing (Again). Hope you have Bitcoin ⚡️
    Stay Solvent Amigos 🧡

  • @usernameluis305
    @usernameluis305 3 года назад +4

    Evergrande: hold my beer

  • @muthusaravanakumarj8185
    @muthusaravanakumarj8185 3 года назад +3

    who are all watching this video after China's evergrande crisis

  • @marnicles333
    @marnicles333 3 года назад +6

    I was too young at the time to really know about the Lehman Brothers or pay attention to what was happening in 2008, so imagine my surprise finding out they were so huge! Great video :]

  • @MrSuperawesome5000
    @MrSuperawesome5000 Год назад +2

    Don't forget, they were one of the primary actors in the asset dump that crashed the economy. One of the greediest firms to ever exist.

  • @youtoobe169
    @youtoobe169 Год назад +4

    FTX: "Hold my beer, babe"

  • @lilsniper117
    @lilsniper117 3 года назад +5

    Their greed outgrew their wit! They bet everything on red and then wondered how they lost it all.

  • @davidpowell3347
    @davidpowell3347 Год назад +8

    Actually the real estate value didn't have to drop to break the pyramid,all that had to happen is for it not to keep going up so fast. So that "equity" in the houses didn't increase because of price appreciation. And so when the balloon came due the home "owner" wasn't able to refinance to a new balloon loan and reset the payment clock.

  • @BigTobi
    @BigTobi 3 года назад +4

    *LAUGHS IN EVERGRANDE*

  • @coachburke9145
    @coachburke9145 2 года назад +2

    I went down the company man rabbit hole. Love these videos man

    • @companyman114
      @companyman114  2 года назад +1

      Hey, happy to hear it. Thanks Coach.

  • @gokeanu8917
    @gokeanu8917 3 года назад +5

    The Big Short is a great movie to explain this period of mortgage lending. It's entertaining yet shows what happened leading up to the financial crisis.

  • @LoserBroProductions
    @LoserBroProductions 3 года назад +6

    THANK YOU. I like videos that explain parts of the Great Recession, it’s a topic that I know very little about but would like to know more about

  • @anatheodoro9596
    @anatheodoro9596 3 года назад +6

    "After 150 years of business, that's going to be their legacy." Ouch. True though.

    • @MattyMoores
      @MattyMoores 3 года назад

      It is crazy isn't it. That's the trouble when a company disappears, it is the end. Many businesses can fail miserably but as long as the lights stay on there is always hope and the story can continue.

  • @mbaman1973
    @mbaman1973 3 года назад +14

    Hey, let's keep things real with this video. I love your content and I'm a long-time subscriber but I gotta speak up on this one. Let's not sugarcoat history. Alabama cotton farmers = slave owners. The decline in the cotton market = the end of slavery. Basically, Lehman Brothers were one of the many financial pillars in the institution of American slavery. Glossing over this fact the way you did in the video comes across as dismissive of the struggle and horrors my ancestors went through to build this country. American slavery should not be swept under a rug so people can feel good. If history is not remembered as it exactly happened then we are doomed to repeat it.

    • @bigbubba4314
      @bigbubba4314 3 года назад +3

      Is this what they mean by “virtue signaling”? You, of course would never earn a living by doing something legal, by finding buyers of your legal service. Are you ok with Starbucks selling a cup of coffee for $5. Aren’t the coffee farmers being exploited today? Almost slave wages if you actually investigate it.

    • @flynn659
      @flynn659 3 года назад +2

      Damn, I didn't know the future of history rests upon a video about a company's collapse.

    • @snowman300
      @snowman300 2 года назад

      @@bigbubba4314 “Race-based slavery in the past wasn’t bad because doing things morally was too expensive and some people still do bad shit today” isn’t exactly the compelling defense you think it is, Bubba.

    • @bigbubba4314
      @bigbubba4314 2 года назад

      @@snowman300 you will have to show me where, ever in my life, I’ve ever said or implied that. If you can’t, then reading comprehension is probably not your strong suit.

    • @snowman300
      @snowman300 2 года назад

      @@bigbubba4314 I based it off the following: “Is this what they mean by “virtue signaling”? You, of course, would never earn a living by doing something legal, by finding buyers of your legal service”… etc. I’ll acknowledge that your comment was poorly formed and unclear, but I didn’t even jump to the worst possible conclusion, which is that you responded to a Black man with an assumption that he surely can’t earn a living by legal means.
      Even the most charitable reading of your comment is that slavery was OK at the time because it was legal. Fuck off with that shit

  • @13SScorpio
    @13SScorpio 2 года назад +4

    My mother used to be an investment Banker. Nowadays she works at a commercial bank though.
    After 2008 I (as a kid) didn't really understand what had happened.
    She explained most of what led to the 2008 crises in a manner impressively understandable for a kid.

  • @510island
    @510island 3 года назад +5

    Referring to slave masters as "cotton farmers" is a very Company Man thing to do. Your channel is all about capitalism, yet you never wanna be honest about the evils of it.

  • @Big_Tex
    @Big_Tex 3 года назад +8

    If you’ve never covered it, a good related story is the failure of WaMu later that week! Good recent book is “The Lost Bank’.

    • @ckfinke7625
      @ckfinke7625 3 года назад +1

      Chase later bought Washington Mutual following the worst economy since the Depression. Before that, it bought the Dime Savings Bank of New York. Remember them?

    • @Big_Tex
      @Big_Tex 3 года назад

      @@ckfinke7625 I didn't know about Dime bank. But I had an account at WaMu when it was confiscated by the Feds. That was a Thursday evening, and the Chase sign was installed by Monday.

    • @jimmefz3328
      @jimmefz3328 3 года назад

      I hated those stupid WaMu commercials that tried to be funny but were instead very annoying.

  • @collina209
    @collina209 3 года назад +8

    1850's "cotton farmers", I think you mean plantation slave owner. They got big because of commodities trading of the largest cash crop of plantations that utilized slave labor. They market turned down later because slavery got outlawed. Way to dodge the historical context.

  • @pillarnexustheancientgladiator
    @pillarnexustheancientgladiator 3 года назад +7

    2008 was also an election year; I'm wondering how much of an impact it made on voters to see a company like this go down.

  • @DenevaUnchained
    @DenevaUnchained 3 года назад +13

    ...they started in cotton. In the South. In the first half of the 19th century. I appreciate the amount of time and research that you put in to your subjects, but it kind of feels like you're glossing over something here.

  • @PiLarTheStarlet
    @PiLarTheStarlet 3 года назад +27

    Company Man really?! “Cotton farmers”. Bruh I like your channel but you tried it with that one.

  • @nilhyo
    @nilhyo 3 года назад +24

    Can you cover the history of Justice (the clothing store)

  • @ancientflames6679
    @ancientflames6679 3 года назад +4

    I think when covering 2008 it’s also important to mention how much to blame both the U.S. government and the Federal Reserve were to blame for everything that happened, as well as how the expectations created by both directly contributed to the poor decision making of Wall Street as a whole. Too often the issue gets painted as a sole result of corporate greed and bad management, and while that was a major issue, it didn’t occur in a vacuum.

  • @awol_ab
    @awol_ab 3 года назад +6

    I feel like Dick Fuld’s arrogance and pride also had a major part to it.

    • @GeorgiaOverdrive
      @GeorgiaOverdrive 3 года назад

      He was so sure the government would bail him out. Lol

  • @UnknownFlyingPancake
    @UnknownFlyingPancake 3 года назад +7

    This is the kind of "political correctness" that needs to be talked about more. You talk about the importance of cotton in the US economy without once mentioning slavery despite the entire industry relying on it. This sort of glossing over and sugarcoating the facts only serves to do harm, with so many people are unwilling to acknowledge the truth. If it makes them "uncomfortable" then, good - it's an uncomfortable topic! But it can't just be ignored like it never happened.
    Also acting sympathetic to this company is a really bad look. They knowingly took advantage of vulnerable people. They knew what they were doing, and got too greedy. Scummy companies like that have no right to exist. The truly sad thing about this story is all the people they took advantage of - including their own employees.

    • @UnknownFlyingPancake
      @UnknownFlyingPancake 3 года назад +1

      @Zel Zars Uhh...what? I didn't say anything about Company man being racist lol. That's a BIG assumption on your part reading into stuff that was never said. The video went into depth about how they got their start in the cotton industry, kinda hard to talk about that industry -without- mentioning slavery. I assume the reason he did it because people like you whine and whine whenever its mentioned because you feel personally attacked while crying about SJWs over simple stating of history.
      Hmn, it's almost as if this video was a actually a fairly detailed history as to what they did - kinda important if you wanna talk about how they went bankrupt, no? There was quite a lot of info in the video, though I'm sure you were too busy raging to pay any attention to what the video comprised of. I'd be surprised if you actually watched it. Especially considering he specifically says that their bankruptcy was a "sad story", something he usually says in reference to a company failing for reasons beyond their control. So I wouldn't be surprised if you were just the type of person who goes around scouring the internet for things that offend you. Maybe try to find a better hobby, yeah?

    • @UnknownFlyingPancake
      @UnknownFlyingPancake 3 года назад +1

      @Zel Zars lmao, you're the one making yourself look bad. Clearly you've never heard of a lil' thing called "constructive criticism". Imagine being so upset that you write paragraphs of angry, incoherent because someone said 'hey this video (that you didn't even make) would probably be better if it didn't gloss over some points that are integral to the topic". Said points would only add a couple seconds to the video. Unfortunately you seem to not understand the concept of being concise either so you think simply mentioning those things would take an hour.
      Maybe you should learn some listening and reading skills, instead of crying "SJW SJW SJW REE!111" like an absolute lunatic. So, I'd wish you a good day but you seem to be incapable of that. So I'll just say: "Stop it. Get some help :)"

    • @UnknownFlyingPancake
      @UnknownFlyingPancake 3 года назад +1

      @Zel Zars Wow, you're still at it? I mean, literally all he should've done was say "their initial customers were slave owners" instead of "cotton farmers" since they factually didn't pick their own cotton, so calling them farmers is just simply inaccurate. But apparently you think such a simple phrase change for the sake of historical accuracy would somehow take an hour. Like I said in the initial comment, I get why he did it. Mentioning slavery brings out the whiny easily offended people like you that don't have the balls to acknowledge the truth. I mean, if my position is literally "facts don't care about your feelings" and your response to that is 'waaah ur an sjw that hurt my fee-fees im gonna bring irrelevant political leanings into this, hurl meaningless insults, and capslock spam while literally proving your point!" I think maybe you should re-evaluate your approach because you're embarrassing yourself. Please get some therapy.

    • @UnknownFlyingPancake
      @UnknownFlyingPancake 3 года назад +1

      @Zel Zars You know that when people hear "farmer" they imagine a person who does the work. Again, my comment was literally just about how it would make him look better to not go out of his way to sugarcoat the truth. Then you come around and act all offended saying I called him a racist which is a straight up lie. The only one projecting is you, since clearly you're so upset by all this that you can't even type properly. Well, either that or you just never learned basic formatting and spelling, probably both, honestly. By the way, they weren't in the slavery business, they were cotton traders. You'd know that if you watched the video :)

    • @UnknownFlyingPancake
      @UnknownFlyingPancake 3 года назад +1

      @Zel Zars Sure, if you knew how IQ worked it would also raise yours ;) Well, unless you're a troll or a bot, then GG lol

  • @m3abdi
    @m3abdi 3 года назад +2

    Curse of profiting from slavery.

  • @dcoxinator
    @dcoxinator 3 года назад +4

    Big Short and Khan Academy explain this in more details. Pretty good and general explaination.