Lovely old shaper, nice to see one being used. I've only used mine for cutting internal keyways and hacksawing and use the vertical mill for anything else. Is there any advantage in using the shaper over the mill?
Entertainment ?? ;o) I've got a universal mill (Beavermill) which will do damn near anything I want, but wanted a shaper for keyways, gearcutting, splines, etc. Yes I know much of this can be done on the mill, but the last splines I cut were internal and a PITA to do on the lathe, took ages hand winding the carriage back and forth....
Hi from Scotland ! I have not had time to finish the vice jaw or make number 2. Too many projects, too little time. Busy restoring a French truck :o) I will make and post part 2 sometime......
Hi From Australia I also recently bought a 18" Butler shaper in vert reasonable nick. Question Have you located a serial no location on the machine? I have a eliptical brass plate near Assoc. Brit Eng plate that reads 1/13 but cant fund any other markings. Mine does not have the rotating table you have but clutch and gear leaver seem the same Cheers Peter
Hi Peter, I have just had a quick look through my shaper photos and there isn't one of a serial number, so I'm fairly confident that it doesn't have one, or if it does have one, it's far from obvious. I'll have a look when I'm home at the weekend and let you know...
Thank you for that. I noticed on your pics that you have a label on the ram opposite side to the gear levers, I have no such label or any holes where one might have been.I have a suppliers label Australian and the original Aus. GE electric motor 5hp 3phase wired Delta dam it. I'm currently running it with a good old UK made 1.5hp single phase 1400 motor which works ok because of the clutch stating but like you will have to bite the bullet and buy a 3hp 1400 rev. With my motor flywheel turns at 500 revs instead of the 400. Cheers Peter
I had a look at the label today. It's a brass plate with 'Ferranti machine number 00625' so it's an owners number, not a Butlers number. No sign of a serial number anywhere that I can see, but there may be a faint one somewhere .....? Cheers
Thanks for looking, I noticed on other shaper's built around the same time /places that a requirement was to always quote serial no! I'll keep looking. I take it the motor you bought for yous was 3hp 3 phase 4 pole (1420revs) and lastly did you ever take up the invite to the steam museum in Bolton ? mentioned in Practical Machinist forum? I conclude with you there was very little on Butler machines on web until you and a couple others posted some youtube clips. You should be commended.Thank you Cheers Peter
It was just there so I could move the table sideways for the next cut. Cutting downwards by hand, then wind the tool back up, then advance the table sideways for the next cut, then cut downwards again, etc. Hardly worth removing the handle between cuts for that. Though I can see the possibility for bumping the handle and it all going horribly wrong....
Lovely job ! wonderful to see it taking cuts. The chips are hot sharp and travel for sure !
Thanks for uploading.
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Lovely old shaper, nice to see one being used. I've only used mine for cutting internal keyways and hacksawing and use the vertical mill for anything else. Is there any advantage in using the shaper over the mill?
Entertainment ?? ;o) I've got a universal mill (Beavermill) which will do damn near anything I want, but wanted a shaper for keyways, gearcutting, splines, etc. Yes I know much of this can be done on the mill, but the last splines I cut were internal and a PITA to do on the lathe, took ages hand winding the carriage back and forth....
Thats how shapers should work!
You can make anything you want on a shaper except a profit
hello from france ! where is the Number 2 ??? it's for me a good job and y want to see the number 2 please
Hi from Scotland !
I have not had time to finish the vice jaw or make number 2. Too many projects, too little time. Busy restoring a French truck :o)
I will make and post part 2 sometime......
ok , thank you very much . what 's French truck ( sorry for my English !!!)
Your English is much, much better than my French ...
Simca Marmon, SUMB truck. Very similar to a Unimog.
yes i know" Simca Marmon" , When I was military we still had it!! 1979!
good luck for restoration !!
y have also a shaper (vernier MS 25)
I found a video for the MS 28 shaper, looks very nice. I assume your's is very similar, just a little smaller?
Hi From Australia I also recently bought a 18" Butler shaper in vert reasonable nick. Question Have you located a serial no location on the machine? I have a eliptical brass plate near Assoc. Brit Eng plate that reads 1/13 but cant fund any other markings. Mine does not have the rotating table you have but clutch and gear leaver seem the same Cheers Peter
Hi Peter, I have just had a quick look through my shaper photos and there isn't one of a serial number, so I'm fairly confident that it doesn't have one, or if it does have one, it's far from obvious. I'll have a look when I'm home at the weekend and let you know...
Thank you for that. I noticed on your pics that you have a label on the ram opposite side to the gear levers, I have no such label or any holes where one might have been.I have a suppliers label Australian and the original Aus. GE electric motor 5hp 3phase wired Delta dam it. I'm currently running it with a good old UK made 1.5hp single phase 1400 motor which works ok because of the clutch stating but like you will have to bite the bullet and buy a 3hp 1400 rev. With my motor flywheel turns at 500 revs instead of the 400. Cheers Peter
I had a look at the label today. It's a brass plate with 'Ferranti machine number 00625' so it's an owners number, not a Butlers number. No sign of a serial number anywhere that I can see, but there may be a faint one somewhere .....?
Cheers
Thanks for looking, I noticed on other shaper's built around the same time /places that a requirement was to always quote serial no! I'll keep looking. I take it the motor you bought for yous was 3hp 3 phase 4 pole (1420revs) and lastly did you ever take up the invite to the steam museum in Bolton ? mentioned in Practical Machinist forum? I conclude with you there was very little on Butler machines on web until you and a couple others posted some youtube clips. You should be commended.Thank you Cheers Peter
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take that handle out ..... i've run a shaper for a long time ,never need that handle while ram was moving
It was just there so I could move the table sideways for the next cut. Cutting downwards by hand, then wind the tool back up, then advance the table sideways for the next cut, then cut downwards again, etc. Hardly worth removing the handle between cuts for that. Though I can see the possibility for bumping the handle and it all going horribly wrong....
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