i drove 2022 st-line but wasn't that impressed with driving dynamics but when tested st it was vow...the difference was immidiately felt and ofcourse the next day i took it home yayyy loving it...
Haha I hear that all the time when people do a back to back drive of the 2.0L to the 2.7L! Glad you're enjoying yours so far. What color did you get it in?
@@CarsWithSteve I didn't know that the Edge has a 2.7L engine until now. As a VW driver for decades, I accidentally bought a 2011 Golf with 5 cyl 2.5L and I'm spoiled by the power. Huge differences from the 4 cyl 1.8L Golf. The Edge ST will be my next vehicle if I ever had the money. lol
@mandatorymyocarditis8579 Better grab one soon. You won't be disappointed! Production of new Edges end Dec31st. All orders must be in by then found out. Love mine. It's a keeper! -NY #EdgeST #TorchGreen #RoushTuning
It’s such a shame that these vehicles will more than likely never be driven to their full potential by the owners that purchase them. I have driven the edge ST on track, it is so much more than a sporty looking SUV with a beefy engine. The way ford performance optimized and tuned the suspension, the awd system (when advancetrac, stability, and traction is disengaged) waking up and letting you feel this truly remarkable awd system. The way this vehicle loads up on its front end when coming into a corner, putting the power down to the ground it’s truly impressive. The explorer ST (big brother) is a monstrosity, with 400hp and even more torque, and would absolutely consume the little edge ST in a drag race. In the corners, the explorer shows it’s size unfortunately. I am lucky to live near one of the greatest driving roads in the US, where I take the edge from time to time to drive spirited. The edge has become known by frequent drivers of the road who also bring their supped up cars. The edge hangs with modified tuner cars and blows other peoples minds when they are canyon running in their modded s2000 and see an SUV keeping up with them. It’s great, I encourage owners of these vehicles to explore the capabilities of these things. They will leave you speechless.
Really like it when I get owner reviews like this explaining the potential these performance vehicles have. I haven't had a chance to track an Edge or Explorer ST yet but I've heard and seen nothing but great things. Are there are mods that you've done to yours or is it stock?
@@CarsWithSteve it’s completely stock at the moment, just some good tires! I uploaded a small clip on my channel of a “spirited” drive through the canyons! Check it out.
Have a 21 edge st. I baught it for its spot capabilities no tune just the drop in k and n filter ... AGREED you turn off the advance Trac. And hit sport mode and was bam thank ya mam.... love it.... I've raced 4 banger mustangs up hill and eat then in the long haul....fucker really gets it after 45 mph. . It just keeps accelerating...
They removed the engine shroud. All Edge ST come with the engine cover. They “gave” you one that had it removed. The cover looks good but it just exaggerates the already troublesome Heatsoak in the 2.7L Twin Turbo . Air flow in and around the engine bay is key, due to the tiny intercooler, also what doesn’t make sense is the 2.7L TT V6 is limited or detuned to 335hp and can only be upgraded to a max of 360 hp she to the 180 hp maximum that the factory front and rear drive units can tolerate. Odd that the 2.3L single Turbo 4 cylinder makes 350hp and can be upgraded to well over 650hp with the factory drive line.
Huh.. didn't know that about the cover, thanks! ECU tunes are available for 60+ hp with 93 used. I'll have to check out some dyno videos and see what people have been able to do to their STs
Hey found your channel several weeks ago saw this video and was hooked on getting a Ford Edge ST Got a2022 it’s awesome I am 64 it’s fun I you want to drive people worry about Ford not making them any more won’t be able to find parts these people don’t watch a lot of car channels where they take a old mustang put it back together or what ever they always find parts for these cars I am like you these cars just all around Sharp and awesome MikePierce Lexington Kentucky love your take on cars definitely got me
Hey Mike! It's great that you found the videos helpful and amazing that it helped you make a buying decision. Really is a great ride! It's funny.. I was in an ST-Line last week and spent a minute talking about that exact point on part availability. If Ford chooses to discontinue the Edge I can't see part availability being an issue anytime soon either. Hope the new ride treats you well!
Really nice design. Is it true that built-in Navigation is only available with Ford CoPilot 360 Assist Plus (supposedly subscription based) and not available with the standard Ford CoPilot 360? Need some clarity on this. Thanks in advance. 👍
There are a few options.. you'd either have connected built in navigation or connected navigation.. here are the differences: Connected Built In Navigation: 3 year trial of connected services (live traffic, navigation etc) which ends after 3 years.. It then reverts to built in traditional GPS navigation once the trial runs out and the subscription isn't renewed. Connected Navigation: 3 months of connected service with full nav capability.. but this one turns into a "moving map" with no destination capability if a subscription isn't purchased. So if the plan is to not use CarPlay or Android Auto you want to make sure that you go with the Connected Built In Nav!
Hey Steve just found your channel and subbed, I love you're delivery of information with graphics and enthusiasm. Keep it up and you'll see your channel explode.
It's weird to me that they offer the 21 inch wheels with all seasons. I didn't realize thay was the case. Mine has the pirelli p zero summer tires. If you buy an Edge I recommend you all take advantage of the ST SUV experience. They will pay for 1 night hotel, dinner breakfast and lunch and let you take one of their edge STs around a small track and it's really amazing how well these things handle. The biggest problems with the Edge are: outdated dash (like, it's from 2010) and absolutely zero exhaust note. Everything else about fully loaded edge is awesome. It also has one of the best stereos I've ever heard.
That's something most people don't take into account.. swapping out tires during the winter. But I always recommend getting a set of steel wheels for winters instead of constantly swapping out rubber to avoid wear and tear on the tire wall. Great idea on attending the ST Ford Performance Experience! Haven't had a chance to try a Ford Performance Course but I've heard great things. Agree with you on the dash.. it's definitely in need of an upgrade. I'm hoping that if Ford keeps it around we see something similar to what China got with the Edge L
@@CarsWithSteve even the escape from a couple years ago got an all digital dash in the US so I feel like ford is just waiting til people finally demand it lol. You can get a new edge ST (base) for like 45k. Even loaded at 55k (assume a slight discount) there isn't much competing at this level. An X5 is going to be 30k more with all the features (albeit faster). Same goes with cayenne, and audis. The Edge is kinda in no man's land. The competition is either much slower or much faster but at this price point I think the Edge st is the quickest of this size
Pep was covered when I start driving around the 22:20 mark, seat comfort is mentioned a few times during the section on the 1st row and cupholders are talked about around the 21:20 mark. There are vents in the 2nd row behind the console between the 1st row seats but there's no independent climate control - it'll be based on the settings for the driver seat
North America doesn't have the Sport trim level.. but the big difference between the ST-Line and ST is the engine. The ST-Line has the standard 2.0L turbo while the ST has the 2.7L turbo instead. Feature sets are fairly similar between them otherwise
The ST-Line is the fakers Edge. Hate that they put that model out. Like Chevy did with the RS line and Dodge with the "GT" line. And I guess now hyundain with the "N-Line".
So the older Edges ('15 to '18) with the 2.7 V6 were called the Sport model. The ST came out in 2019 and replaced the Sport model (and upgraded suspension and brakes). As for the st-line... that's kind of a fraud.. it has some of the looks of a real ST but only has the base 2.0l 4cyl engine.
You should check out the 2024 Edge L that was just released in China.. Not sure if it'll make it to North America but if we could get a redesign half as good as that I'd be happy haha
It's crazy. I don't even care thay it wasn't fully digital but the two little screens are pretty useless. One screen does all the stuff you want and the other shows dumb stuff like phone, next turn info and media info. If you could show everything on the right screen thay the left shows it would be much better though it's still straight out if a 2010... other than that though the interior on the edge is fantastic. Much higher quality than you'd get from a dodge or a Chevy.
Hi. Test drove an ST with the 400A package. Also test drove an ST Line Explorer as well. I then ordered an Edge ST with the 401A package that is fully loaded. Was just contacted by a Ford dealer about special offers being done for 2022 Explorers, $3500 in rebates! Was told my Edge order may take 4-6 months before it’s delivered to the dealer. You have driven both. Which one would you get based on power and performance?
I'd probably go for the Edge over the Explorer just because I don't need the additional size but I do like the power difference that you get in the Explorer ST. If it's a 400a Explorer you'd be missing out on the ventilated 1st row seats, heated 2nd row seats, wireless charge pad and adaptive cruise control that are in the Edge 401a that you ordered. If you're only looking at performance and power.. the Explorer ST for sure. If the other features are important, wait it out for the Edge if you aren't in a hurry to get into something new
@@CarsWithSteve I am in no rush so I have decided I will wait for the Edge ST. I like the Explorer but I feel the Edge fits in more with my needs. Plus the 2.7 Turbo V6 is amazing compared to the 2.3 Turbo 4 in the Explorer ST-Line.
Good call! I think that you're going to really like the Edge ST. Not sure where in the states you are but someone else mentioned Ford Performance academy to use an Edge ST on the track.. could be worth looking into to see how you like it!
The Edge is being discontinued, 2023 models are the last ones. Ford wants to focus on building EVs new car models, I think Ford is making a business mistake, people do not want electric cars.
2024 models are getting serial numbers so there's going to be a production run into 2024 but nothing official has been announced for it being discontinued. With the 2024 Nautilus coming from China there is the possibility North America also sees the Chinese Edge L as the next gen model...
I was in a pinch and had to get out of a leased Honda Fit and traded it in for a used 2012 Ford Edge. I like it a lot more than I thought i would even though it can't compare to this one. My dream is a 2023 F150 5.0.
I haven't run into many people who aren't a fan of their Edge. Just a bit of a difference between the 2012 and this one but glad that you're enjoying yours so far!
lets hope they upgrade the brakes over the 2020 st that I have if you drive like an old lady you will be fine drive it aggressive and you will warp the rotors this is the worst brake setup on any vehicle I have ever had way to cut corners Ford, not sure who designed or signed off on this thing but they should be fired the brakes are terrible and the sway bars are to small there is way to much body roll for a ST model also acceleration hesitation is probably due to Ford going cheap on the rear diff trying to protect the drivetrain through programing other than that its been a great vehicle would not consider this an ST I think slapping an ST badge on this is kind of like putting lipstick on a pig would not buy another one
Did you not get the good brakes/good tires? I had the big brake package on mine and I never had any issues. I drove it pretty aggressively too. Actually none of what you said was my experience at all. The Edge ST with the 21s on the oem summer tires handled amazingly well. Thats really the point of the ST, it's quick but not thay quick but it handles like a sports car.
@@CarsWithSteve because discontinuation will impact the resale and the maintenance. What about spate parts after the warranty period is over. I'm taking bank finance over 5 years
Most mechanical parts are found in a number of other Ford vehicles so part availability won't be an issue. People restore 50+ year old cars without issue so I can't see there being any sort of part availability issue within the next 5 - 10 years. Resale value is the one thing you could be concerned about but if you're planning on holding onto it for 5-10 years how much are you realistically expecting to get back? Most cars will lose at least 50% of value within 5 years.. 2019-2020 Edge ST models are being sold around 50 - 60% of their new vehicle MSRP depending on mileage
@CarsWithSteve went today keeping in mind your points. The sales rep at Ford recommended the ford Territory 2024 black edition and gave me an exclusion clause, stating you won't get the power you experience in the edge ST. Im confused because I expect to drive the car for 5 years and then try to recover the best price after the bank loan is over. Reading blogs and watching videos, it seems i wont get 50% of what i soend. Worst case scenario, if I have to sell the car while the bank loan is on going, the territory will assist me to switch easy as the customer won't be concerned about the discontinuation, however, with Edge, they will use the discontinuation as a bargain tool. So I honestly don't know
Bit of a difference but it's a good option if you need the peace of mind for a vehicle that isn't discontinued. The Ford EcoSport was discontinued after the 2022 model.. and ones that are 6 years old with 100,000 km+ are selling for 65%+ of their regular retail price
Unleaded88 compatible but recommended min fuel as per manual is 87 octane. E15 does have higher octane content but you could also run a 94 and get good performance out of it too. As long as you're meeting minimum recommendation you're fine
There are small things peppered in my videos about what I think could use improvement but my reviews are about the features that a car has, explaining the difference in trim levels and showing how things work. I don’t get to spend a week at a time with them so it would be hard to give honest feedback about living with the vehicle and quirks I may notice
But then people get mad at you. I was honest in my 2020 review and people were like "why'd you buy a car you didn't like?" lol Edge St negatives: Guage cluster No exhaust note Could be faster (5.7s 0-60 is still pretty quick for an SUV in this price range though, especially with all the goodies this has) Thats about it. It's a really good car if you get it fully loaded. It took me a while to appreciate it coming from two Scat Packs which were much more fun. But you get a ton of space with the Edge ST and great handling and a much much better quality interior than Dodge offers. I owned mine for 2 years. I didn't put many miles on it but the miles I did put on it were hard miles, I drove it like I drive all my cars, floor it every time you're first at light. Take on ramps at 75, enjoy the twisty bits. I had no issues at all.
I think you did a a pretty good job on the video but you didn't show us a look at the glove box door panels instrument panel or give us enough information on the sound system in that particular package
Thanks Darren. Haven't had anybody ask to see more of the glovebox before - I'll look at showing it off in future videos. The available speaker setups are there but they're briefly mentioned. Maybe a slightly deeper dive would make sense
@CarsWithSteve it's okay I drive a 2010 model though which had to have about $12,000 in repair and that's all like okay the used car market is good I rather have a brand new car so I'm just looking at reviews for me it would be the Ford Edge St line and the Subaru Forester touring
I’m trying to negotiate an this same exact car color an all with the 400a package. Pretty basic about 48k trying to get them down to about $450/ month. I’m not sure what I should be paying with about $3k down
Assuming it's the 400a with no other add ons getting it to $450 a month is going to need a bigger down payment or trade to offset. The Edge doesn't have a big profit margin and you'd need at least another $9k to get close to your ideal payment (assuming you're in the USA). If you can negotiate $1,500 off MSRP you'll probably come in closer to $550/month with $3k down
@@CarsWithSteve I should have specified this is a lease…. My trade in is a 2017 Mazda 6 they’re willing to cut me a check for $11,000 use the rest to put towards the edge car value is about $15k ( some damage) the lowest they’ve gotten is 492
@@CarsWithSteve the car is paid for there’s no loan on it the thing is based on KBB value it’s worth about $17K (Fair value, cosmetic damage to the rear) car has 18k miles. Based on these figures do you think $490/month for 36 months, 7500miles/ year, with first payment and MV fees upfront ($690) and a check of $11k is fair?
Misunderstood the last comment, I thought when you said value you meant that's the amount that's outstanding on the finance balance. So they're cutting you a cheque for $11k, you're putting $3k down and they're offering the ST on a lease for $490?
Unsure whether it will through USB memory but IOS 11 has support depending on the hardware and Android 3.1 does as well so over bluetooth shouldn't be an issue
Love my '22 Edge SEL AWD in Torch Green w/black appearance package/ 19in black wheels . My 2nd Edge. 1st was a '13 AWD that was flawless. The gen2 - 2.0L GTDI is plenty for 95% drivers. *I get 24mpg city/ 28mpgs hwy in midsized AWD SUV. Best in class. Grab one before they stop building them Dec31st '23* .
Despite the manual saying it has it, the Edge doesn't have auto brake hold.. Look at the 23 manual, it gives directions how to turn it on and off via touchscreen. It's not available. Not happy.
I honestly thought I was losing my mind at first.. went through the video I shot on Sync4 for the 2022 - but you're right.. the typical Driver's Assistance screen is not on Sync4. Bit of a crazy oversight... I'm going to be in another Edge in the next week or so.. will take a look again and see if it was moved somewhere else
@Cars With Steve They also got rid of the code thing to lock and unlock on the side of driver door in the 23. But the lack of brake hold is most bothersome.
Yeah it really is. It's pretty weird because the 2022 should have that feature too. If I notice it in the Titanium I'm in next week I'll circle back and let you know!
Hey Ralph! I had things mixed up on this one. The features setting is in the left cluster screen of the Edge. Use the left steering wheel pad to navigate to Settings --> Vehicle Auto hold is the first setting that pops up!
@Cars With Steve She absolutely loves her Nautilus. I got there the White Diamond Tri-Coat with Black interior, 2.7 engine and the top package (402?) with the Fog Lights and 19-Speaker REVEL system. I had a 2015 Edge Sport which only had 300 h.p. at the time, and that thing FLEW. This new 335 h.p. upgrade is a beast!!!! Both the Edge ST and the Nautilus Reserve are really solid SUV's. We lease typically, but we may actually buy these both out at the end of their leases. Again, GREAT review!!!!!
Appreciate that! Always good to hear when people love the rides, that 2.7L engine is amazing! It might be worth looking at the buyout at the end either way if the trade in value is higher than the buyout. Cheers!
i drove 2022 st-line but wasn't that impressed with driving dynamics but when tested st it was vow...the difference was immidiately felt and ofcourse the next day i took it home yayyy loving it...
Haha I hear that all the time when people do a back to back drive of the 2.0L to the 2.7L! Glad you're enjoying yours so far. What color did you get it in?
@@CarsWithSteve I didn't know that the Edge has a 2.7L engine until now. As a VW driver for decades, I accidentally bought a 2011 Golf with 5 cyl 2.5L and I'm spoiled by the power. Huge differences from the 4 cyl 1.8L Golf. The Edge ST will be my next vehicle if I ever had the money. lol
@mandatorymyocarditis8579 Better grab one soon. You won't be disappointed! Production of new Edges end Dec31st. All orders must be in by then found out. Love mine. It's a keeper! -NY #EdgeST #TorchGreen #RoushTuning
@CarsWithSteve all black obviously..i want to mode it to all mean machine lol..
It’s such a shame that these vehicles will more than likely never be driven to their full potential by the owners that purchase them. I have driven the edge ST on track, it is so much more than a sporty looking SUV with a beefy engine. The way ford performance optimized and tuned the suspension, the awd system (when advancetrac, stability, and traction is disengaged) waking up and letting you feel this truly remarkable awd system. The way this vehicle loads up on its front end when coming into a corner, putting the power down to the ground it’s truly impressive. The explorer ST (big brother) is a monstrosity, with 400hp and even more torque, and would absolutely consume the little edge ST in a drag race. In the corners, the explorer shows it’s size unfortunately. I am lucky to live near one of the greatest driving roads in the US, where I take the edge from time to time to drive spirited. The edge has become known by frequent drivers of the road who also bring their supped up cars. The edge hangs with modified tuner cars and blows other peoples minds when they are canyon running in their modded s2000 and see an SUV keeping up with them. It’s great, I encourage owners of these vehicles to explore the capabilities of these things. They will leave you speechless.
Really like it when I get owner reviews like this explaining the potential these performance vehicles have. I haven't had a chance to track an Edge or Explorer ST yet but I've heard and seen nothing but great things. Are there are mods that you've done to yours or is it stock?
@@CarsWithSteve it’s completely stock at the moment, just some good tires! I uploaded a small clip on my channel of a “spirited” drive through the canyons! Check it out.
even stock these things are great, I'll check it out!
I just purchased an ST a few weeks ago and love it
Have a 21 edge st. I baught it for its spot capabilities no tune just the drop in k and n filter ... AGREED you turn off the advance Trac. And hit sport mode and was bam thank ya mam.... love it.... I've raced 4 banger mustangs up hill and eat then in the long haul....fucker really gets it after 45 mph. . It just keeps accelerating...
Is the 2.7 twin turbo a V6 or an i4 ?
The 2.7L is a V6!
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Thanks!
Leave the 2.0 alone, and get the 2.7, a lot better of a engine
Agree with you there, love the performance of the 2.7!
I love that you show the dimension of the trunk with and without the seats folded. Thanks.
Glad you found that small detail helpful!
Ordered mine in Carbonized Grey back in October! Itching to get it lol!
That's exciting!! Did you go for the 401a?
Yessir ! Appreciate the review
Nice, hopefully you see it sooner than later!
They removed the engine shroud. All Edge ST come with the engine cover. They “gave” you one that had it removed. The cover looks good but it just exaggerates the already troublesome Heatsoak in the 2.7L Twin Turbo . Air flow in and around the engine bay is key, due to the tiny intercooler, also what doesn’t make sense is the 2.7L TT V6 is limited or detuned to 335hp and can only be upgraded to a max of 360 hp she to the 180 hp maximum that the factory front and rear drive units can tolerate. Odd that the 2.3L single Turbo 4 cylinder makes 350hp and can be upgraded to well over 650hp with the factory drive line.
Huh.. didn't know that about the cover, thanks! ECU tunes are available for 60+ hp with 93 used. I'll have to check out some dyno videos and see what people have been able to do to their STs
Hey found your channel several weeks ago saw this video and was hooked on getting a Ford Edge ST Got a2022 it’s awesome I am 64 it’s fun I you want to drive people worry about Ford not making them any more won’t be able to find parts these people don’t watch a lot of car channels where they take a old mustang put it back together or what ever they always find parts for these cars I am like you these cars just all around Sharp and awesome MikePierce Lexington Kentucky love your take on cars definitely got me
Hey Mike! It's great that you found the videos helpful and amazing that it helped you make a buying decision. Really is a great ride! It's funny.. I was in an ST-Line last week and spent a minute talking about that exact point on part availability. If Ford chooses to discontinue the Edge I can't see part availability being an issue anytime soon either. Hope the new ride treats you well!
Really nice design. Is it true that built-in Navigation is only available with Ford CoPilot 360 Assist Plus (supposedly subscription based) and not available with the standard Ford CoPilot 360? Need some clarity on this. Thanks in advance. 👍
There are a few options.. you'd either have connected built in navigation or connected navigation.. here are the differences:
Connected Built In Navigation: 3 year trial of connected services (live traffic, navigation etc) which ends after 3 years.. It then reverts to built in traditional GPS navigation once the trial runs out and the subscription isn't renewed.
Connected Navigation: 3 months of connected service with full nav capability.. but this one turns into a "moving map" with no destination capability if a subscription isn't purchased.
So if the plan is to not use CarPlay or Android Auto you want to make sure that you go with the Connected Built In Nav!
Hey Steve just found your channel and subbed, I love you're delivery of information with graphics and enthusiasm. Keep it up and you'll see your channel explode.
Thanks so much, really appreciate the kind words and support!
Do you know if delivery lead time has been improved ? Last time I checked it was about 4-6 months !
Depends on when your factory order hits the order queue. But I'd say you're pretty much right on with the 4-6 month lead time
Very well done. Great video. Looking forward to finally getting mine.....hopefully by June!!!!! 😁
Appreciate that Brian!
It's weird to me that they offer the 21 inch wheels with all seasons. I didn't realize thay was the case. Mine has the pirelli p zero summer tires.
If you buy an Edge I recommend you all take advantage of the ST SUV experience. They will pay for 1 night hotel, dinner breakfast and lunch and let you take one of their edge STs around a small track and it's really amazing how well these things handle. The biggest problems with the Edge are: outdated dash (like, it's from 2010) and absolutely zero exhaust note. Everything else about fully loaded edge is awesome. It also has one of the best stereos I've ever heard.
That's something most people don't take into account.. swapping out tires during the winter. But I always recommend getting a set of steel wheels for winters instead of constantly swapping out rubber to avoid wear and tear on the tire wall.
Great idea on attending the ST Ford Performance Experience! Haven't had a chance to try a Ford Performance Course but I've heard great things. Agree with you on the dash.. it's definitely in need of an upgrade. I'm hoping that if Ford keeps it around we see something similar to what China got with the Edge L
@@CarsWithSteve even the escape from a couple years ago got an all digital dash in the US so I feel like ford is just waiting til people finally demand it lol. You can get a new edge ST (base) for like 45k. Even loaded at 55k (assume a slight discount) there isn't much competing at this level. An X5 is going to be 30k more with all the features (albeit faster). Same goes with cayenne, and audis. The Edge is kinda in no man's land. The competition is either much slower or much faster but at this price point I think the Edge st is the quickest of this size
Exactly!! So true about similar crossovers.. there really aren't any that offer this level of performance close to the Edge's price point.
You didn't cover ride compfurt, how pumpy was it? Is there AC in the back? What about rear seat cup holders?
Pep was covered when I start driving around the 22:20 mark, seat comfort is mentioned a few times during the section on the 1st row and cupholders are talked about around the 21:20 mark. There are vents in the 2nd row behind the console between the 1st row seats but there's no independent climate control - it'll be based on the settings for the driver seat
fantastic presentation, the best one in youtube, welldone
Thanks so much, appreciate that!
11:51 - it has EXACTLY the same AT under the hood but with different sorfware and is skipping gear numner 2 in ST.
Yes, it does skip 2nd gear in the ST so like I said though.. 7 or 8 speed...
The “20’ Edge ST” in Sport Mode has 7 gears, in standard drive has 8 speeds.
Anyone know the difference between edge st-line, sT, and sport? I’m soo confused. I found out today that there’s a Ford edge sport and it’s not st
North America doesn't have the Sport trim level.. but the big difference between the ST-Line and ST is the engine. The ST-Line has the standard 2.0L turbo while the ST has the 2.7L turbo instead. Feature sets are fairly similar between them otherwise
The ST-Line is the fakers Edge. Hate that they put that model out. Like Chevy did with the RS line and Dodge with the "GT" line. And I guess now hyundain with the "N-Line".
@@VanquishedAgain agreed.. the st-line is a fraud lol
So the older Edges ('15 to '18) with the 2.7 V6 were called the Sport model.
The ST came out in 2019 and replaced the Sport model (and upgraded suspension and brakes).
As for the st-line... that's kind of a fraud.. it has some of the looks of a real ST but only has the base 2.0l 4cyl engine.
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Wait I’m genuinely surprised the 401a package does not have a digital gauge cluster. More so for the money that is being spent for it
You should check out the 2024 Edge L that was just released in China.. Not sure if it'll make it to North America but if we could get a redesign half as good as that I'd be happy haha
It's crazy. I don't even care thay it wasn't fully digital but the two little screens are pretty useless. One screen does all the stuff you want and the other shows dumb stuff like phone, next turn info and media info. If you could show everything on the right screen thay the left shows it would be much better though it's still straight out if a 2010... other than that though the interior on the edge is fantastic. Much higher quality than you'd get from a dodge or a Chevy.
Hi. Test drove an ST with the 400A package. Also test drove an ST Line Explorer as well. I then ordered an Edge ST with the 401A package that is fully loaded. Was just contacted by a Ford dealer about special offers being done for 2022 Explorers, $3500 in rebates! Was told my Edge order may take 4-6 months before it’s delivered to the dealer. You have driven both. Which one would you get based on power and performance?
I'd probably go for the Edge over the Explorer just because I don't need the additional size but I do like the power difference that you get in the Explorer ST. If it's a 400a Explorer you'd be missing out on the ventilated 1st row seats, heated 2nd row seats, wireless charge pad and adaptive cruise control that are in the Edge 401a that you ordered.
If you're only looking at performance and power.. the Explorer ST for sure. If the other features are important, wait it out for the Edge if you aren't in a hurry to get into something new
@@CarsWithSteve I am in no rush so I have decided I will wait for the Edge ST. I like the Explorer but I feel the Edge fits in more with my needs. Plus the 2.7 Turbo V6 is amazing compared to the 2.3 Turbo 4 in the Explorer ST-Line.
Good call! I think that you're going to really like the Edge ST. Not sure where in the states you are but someone else mentioned Ford Performance academy to use an Edge ST on the track.. could be worth looking into to see how you like it!
@@CarsWithSteve I live in New York State. I have heard about the Ford Performance Racing School. The closest one to me is in Asheville, NC.
Weekend getaway! Bit of a drive for me too - I'm in Toronto, Ontario and they don't offer anything close to that up here
Is the chairs in the car is comfortable? Or the titanium is better ?
The ST is slightly more comfortable IMO because it's more of a sport bucket seat but they're both comfortable
I could fit 8 18" tires and had room for two more!!!
Plenty of space for junk in the trunk
I saw one on the road the other day and I just thought.. yes.. yup.
Right? They look good and have the performance to back it up!
😛great car loads of space
It really is! I’d go Edge over the Escape because of the extra space
Don't you dare tell me that it's vastly improved over the '22 16 days after I bought one. ;)
HAHA could you imagine! Nah, there aren't really many changes from 2022 to 2023. How are you enjoying the Edge so far?
@@CarsWithSteve I think Ford had planned to redesign for 2023 but backed off that plan. I love it!
That's what it was looking like. Glad you're enjoying yours!
premium gas, not with the current situation.
I'd take the 2ish % hit to HP/Torque with $1.65/litre 87 octane where I am right now
The Edge is being discontinued, 2023 models are the last ones. Ford wants to focus on building EVs new car models, I think Ford is making a business mistake, people do not want electric cars.
2024 models are getting serial numbers so there's going to be a production run into 2024 but nothing official has been announced for it being discontinued. With the 2024 Nautilus coming from China there is the possibility North America also sees the Chinese Edge L as the next gen model...
I think the pedals are memory as well
Pedals are locked into place unfortunately
I was in a pinch and had to get out of a leased Honda Fit and traded it in for a used 2012 Ford Edge. I like it a lot more than I thought i would even though it can't compare to this one. My dream is a 2023 F150 5.0.
I haven't run into many people who aren't a fan of their Edge. Just a bit of a difference between the 2012 and this one but glad that you're enjoying yours so far!
Thx. You review is very complete and accurate. You convinced me to buy it
You're welcome! That's great, what color are you going for?
@@CarsWithSteve black. 46 usd in my country (Chile). Couldnt let pass that offer
Good pricing there! Enjoy the new ride!
Thx!. Can you make a video showing tips or hidden functions
Great idea! I'll add that to the list to shoot in the next few weeks
Pls can you compare ford edge st with 2023 RAV4 Prime
I'll add that to the list. Haven't connected with a Toyota dealer yet but working on it!
lets hope they upgrade the brakes over the 2020 st that I have if you drive like an old lady you will be fine drive it aggressive and you will warp the rotors this is the worst brake setup on any vehicle I have ever had way to cut corners Ford, not sure who designed or signed off on this thing but they should be fired the brakes are terrible and the sway bars are to small there is way to much body roll for a ST model also acceleration hesitation is probably due to Ford going cheap on the rear diff trying to protect the drivetrain through programing other than that its been a great vehicle would not consider this an ST I think slapping an ST badge on this is kind of like putting lipstick on a pig would not buy another one
Hmm interesting.. I know a few people who have tracked their ST without any issues
Did you not get the good brakes/good tires? I had the big brake package on mine and I never had any issues. I drove it pretty aggressively too.
Actually none of what you said was my experience at all. The Edge ST with the 21s on the oem summer tires handled amazingly well. Thats really the point of the ST, it's quick but not thay quick but it handles like a sports car.
15:50 I don't see any auto hold button there. That for sure is engine stop enable / disable
Did I say auto hold? If so it was a slip - auto hold is accessed through the left screen of the cluster
Poor thing comes with Parkinson’s 😢
Same as the 2021
Pretty much
So sad that ford has discontinued this car. I booked today and will be taking refund tomorrow
Right?! Curious, why would you walk away from the car?
@@CarsWithSteve because discontinuation will impact the resale and the maintenance. What about spate parts after the warranty period is over. I'm taking bank finance over 5 years
Most mechanical parts are found in a number of other Ford vehicles so part availability won't be an issue. People restore 50+ year old cars without issue so I can't see there being any sort of part availability issue within the next 5 - 10 years. Resale value is the one thing you could be concerned about but if you're planning on holding onto it for 5-10 years how much are you realistically expecting to get back? Most cars will lose at least 50% of value within 5 years.. 2019-2020 Edge ST models are being sold around 50 - 60% of their new vehicle MSRP depending on mileage
@CarsWithSteve went today keeping in mind your points. The sales rep at Ford recommended the ford Territory 2024 black edition and gave me an exclusion clause, stating you won't get the power you experience in the edge ST. Im confused because I expect to drive the car for 5 years and then try to recover the best price after the bank loan is over. Reading blogs and watching videos, it seems i wont get 50% of what i soend.
Worst case scenario, if I have to sell the car while the bank loan is on going, the territory will assist me to switch easy as the customer won't be concerned about the discontinuation, however, with Edge, they will use the discontinuation as a bargain tool. So I honestly don't know
Bit of a difference but it's a good option if you need the peace of mind for a vehicle that isn't discontinued. The Ford EcoSport was discontinued after the 2022 model.. and ones that are 6 years old with 100,000 km+ are selling for 65%+ of their regular retail price
Look at the gas cap again, it's recommended to take E-15
Unleaded88 compatible but recommended min fuel as per manual is 87 octane. E15 does have higher octane content but you could also run a 94 and get good performance out of it too. As long as you're meeting minimum recommendation you're fine
You appear to be looking for and speaking about things you like. A reviewer should be balanced
There are small things peppered in my videos about what I think could use improvement but my reviews are about the features that a car has, explaining the difference in trim levels and showing how things work. I don’t get to spend a week at a time with them so it would be hard to give honest feedback about living with the vehicle and quirks I may notice
But then people get mad at you. I was honest in my 2020 review and people were like "why'd you buy a car you didn't like?" lol
Edge St negatives:
Guage cluster
No exhaust note
Could be faster (5.7s 0-60 is still pretty quick for an SUV in this price range though, especially with all the goodies this has)
Thats about it. It's a really good car if you get it fully loaded. It took me a while to appreciate it coming from two Scat Packs which were much more fun. But you get a ton of space with the Edge ST and great handling and a much much better quality interior than Dodge offers. I owned mine for 2 years. I didn't put many miles on it but the miles I did put on it were hard miles, I drove it like I drive all my cars, floor it every time you're first at light. Take on ramps at 75, enjoy the twisty bits. I had no issues at all.
Great review.
Thanks JB!
unfortunately no longer comes to Brazil. very good video!
Oh interesting! Do you know if you can import it privately or is it an emissions issue?
I think you did a a pretty good job on the video but you didn't show us a look at the glove box door panels instrument panel or give us enough information on the sound system in that particular package
Thanks Darren. Haven't had anybody ask to see more of the glovebox before - I'll look at showing it off in future videos. The available speaker setups are there but they're briefly mentioned. Maybe a slightly deeper dive would make sense
@Cars With Steve Thank you very much I really do enjoy your videos especially coming from a Canadian point of view it's good information
@@Jazzyexplorer appreciate that!
That car the way it’s equipped is 54k plus and it doesn’t have 360 cameras? Wow
I've seen more expensive cars without them
@@CarsWithSteve oh then that makes it ok.
@@FalconMidget yup
This year 2023 not 2002 to put one camera in car 🤣
If it's fully loaded it has a front and rear camera and sensors all around. On the 2023 might even have 360 camera view
What is the mpg with 2.7 liter?
Shows it in this video around the 4:25 mark
For me if I'm driving this model I'm using mid-grade I will occasionally go for premium but mid-grade is my preferred fuel
Always good to hear from an owner! How are you liking the ST so far?
@CarsWithSteve oh my mistake I meant to say if I don't own the vehicle I drive a 2010 Subaru Forester
Ohh fair enough! Haven't gotten into reviewing Subaru yet.. how are you liking the Forester?
@CarsWithSteve it's okay I drive a 2010 model though which had to have about $12,000 in repair and that's all like okay the used car market is good I rather have a brand new car so I'm just looking at reviews for me it would be the Ford Edge St line and the Subaru Forester touring
Wow huge bill there, always a tough choice on whether it makes sense to do a repair that big or not. The ST-Line is a great trim level!
I’m trying to negotiate an this same exact car color an all with the 400a package. Pretty basic about 48k trying to get them down to about $450/ month. I’m not sure what I should be paying with about $3k down
Assuming it's the 400a with no other add ons getting it to $450 a month is going to need a bigger down payment or trade to offset. The Edge doesn't have a big profit margin and you'd need at least another $9k to get close to your ideal payment (assuming you're in the USA).
If you can negotiate $1,500 off MSRP you'll probably come in closer to $550/month with $3k down
@@CarsWithSteve I should have specified this is a lease…. My trade in is a 2017 Mazda 6 they’re willing to cut me a check for $11,000 use the rest to put towards the edge car value is about $15k ( some damage) the lowest they’ve gotten is 492
Yeah that sounds about right for the price, especially if you're carrying negative equity from the last car that's being financed.
@@CarsWithSteve the car is paid for there’s no loan on it the thing is based on KBB value it’s worth about $17K (Fair value, cosmetic damage to the rear) car has 18k miles. Based on these figures do you think $490/month for 36 months, 7500miles/ year, with first payment and MV fees upfront ($690) and a check of $11k is fair?
Misunderstood the last comment, I thought when you said value you meant that's the amount that's outstanding on the finance balance. So they're cutting you a cheque for $11k, you're putting $3k down and they're offering the ST on a lease for $490?
last year for the edge
Hasn't been officially announced by Ford just yet...
Does it support FLAC file format?
Unsure whether it will through USB memory but IOS 11 has support depending on the hardware and Android 3.1 does as well so over bluetooth shouldn't be an issue
@@CarsWithSteve yep cellphone can read flac but via bluetooth maybe loss of quality vs file on usb stick?
Love my '22 Edge SEL AWD in Torch Green w/black appearance package/ 19in black wheels . My 2nd Edge. 1st was a '13 AWD that was flawless. The gen2 - 2.0L GTDI is plenty for 95% drivers. *I get 24mpg city/ 28mpgs hwy in midsized AWD SUV. Best in class. Grab one before they stop building them Dec31st '23* .
Sharp color combo there! I'm really hoping that Ford replaces it with something good instead of just completely scrapping the lineup
Despite the manual saying it has it, the Edge doesn't have auto brake hold.. Look at the 23 manual, it gives directions how to turn it on and off via touchscreen. It's not available. Not happy.
I honestly thought I was losing my mind at first.. went through the video I shot on Sync4 for the 2022 - but you're right.. the typical Driver's Assistance screen is not on Sync4. Bit of a crazy oversight...
I'm going to be in another Edge in the next week or so.. will take a look again and see if it was moved somewhere else
@Cars With Steve They also got rid of the code thing to lock and unlock on the side of driver door in the 23. But the lack of brake hold is most bothersome.
Yeah it really is. It's pretty weird because the 2022 should have that feature too. If I notice it in the Titanium I'm in next week I'll circle back and let you know!
Hey Ralph! I had things mixed up on this one. The features setting is in the left cluster screen of the Edge. Use the left steering wheel pad to navigate to Settings --> Vehicle Auto hold is the first setting that pops up!
@@CarsWithSteve not in the 2023. At least not in the 2023 SEL. I looked there.
I got my Wife the Lincoln Nautilus Reserve, and my Ford Edge ST is finally scheduled for production February 20th....over 4 months since I ordered it.
Woo, must be excited that the Edge is finally entering production. Soon enough! How is your wife enjoying the Nautilus so far?
@Cars With Steve She absolutely loves her Nautilus. I got there the White Diamond Tri-Coat with Black interior, 2.7 engine and the top package (402?) with the Fog Lights and 19-Speaker REVEL system. I had a 2015 Edge Sport which only had 300 h.p. at the time, and that thing FLEW. This new 335 h.p. upgrade is a beast!!!! Both the Edge ST and the Nautilus Reserve are really solid SUV's. We lease typically, but we may actually buy these both out at the end of their leases. Again, GREAT review!!!!!
Appreciate that! Always good to hear when people love the rides, that 2.7L engine is amazing! It might be worth looking at the buyout at the end either way if the trade in value is higher than the buyout. Cheers!