I just bought a pair of elac debut f6's and matched it with the new rega brio and a nad 516bee cd player and I can't believe how good this set up sounds. what a great pairing to my ears. '
Great info! I've got a set of Debut 2.0 6.2's (which I really like), but just moved and am up between the newer F6.2's or the Uni-Fi UF5's. Your review, and that description of their differences (in a thread below) have me leaning toward the F6.2's, given the challenging room they'll be in. Thanks!
thanks for taking the time to make this video. this was one of reasons that I bought a pair about three weeks ago.I could not be more pleased with this product. I am driving them with an older pioneer vsx 9990 130 a side of clean power. I am filling in the bottom with a couple of cheapie polk subs, I will certainly upgrade soon. I listen to a wide variety of music and I like it loud, these speakers take everything in stride. the midrange is smooth and lively, without being harsh. have you tried elacs 400 watt sub? I am considering it along with the Yamaha 250 sub. I got 20 years from my Yamaha ysx 100
Sounds like a good platform for money savings and a little tweaking like slapping some fat mat on the inside walls, get some OCC wiring to replace what's inside and maybe some Furutech binding posts. If Steve Guttenberg thinks they're as good as speakers 2x the price but slightly flimsy construction, I believe it.
I Have Been Using Vintage Elac Tower Model Pair Of Speakers " Elac EL 110 " Made In W.Germany . Actually It Has Very Good Sound Quality , Durability , Phase Accurate Audio Calibration & Low Fatigue German Speaker For Stereo Listing Applications........
I've been listening to these and the Debut 2.0 and I like these better. Actually, I like these better than the much-more expensive Dynaudios I bought a few months ago.
i was thinking of getting these after your review, but I found a very sweet deal on paradigm reference studio 60 v3 floorstanders at almost half the price of elac. do you think it's a good deal? have you heard the paradigm?
Have you listen to the B5 or B5 2.0? Do you think the the original B5 would be ok placed a few inches from a back wall as I don’t have any other options or placement
Another great review. I can't wait to see what Andrew Jones does when get gets into higher end Elac models. I wonder how linear the bang per buck increase will be by moving up models. Exciting times for sure!
Hi, I see you were waiting on the Uni-Fi line? Most what I've read about the Uni-Fi line isn't good. Folks are saying The ELAC F5 & F6's is money better spent.
I know it's been a year, but I wanted to respond to this anyway. So behind the scenes, a few friends of mine predicted that the sound would likely become a lot more TAD-like as the price went up. So far, it seems like that prediction has been correct. The Uni-Fi really begins to take on the "Andrew Jones" sound. Now, it seems like the Adante line is a complete departure from the Debut series, which means we're now entering truly polarizing territory.
How do these compare against Polk Audio T50? I know Polks are much cheaper, but you praised them to a such degree that I wonder if they can compete with these or come even close?
The Debut line looks impressive, but I'm honestly much more interested in the Uni-Fi line, which seems to offer a lot more performance for not much more money. I know...your readers/viewers are never satisfied. :-D Nice work. Keep it up!
Thanks David. :) The Uni-Fi line looks cool as hell. Word on the grapevine is that the Uni-Fi speakers are quite a bit more revealing. As you well know, the more revealing a speaker is the more obvious the tradeoffs tend to be. One of the most appealing things about the Debut F6 towers is how tough it is to make them sound bad. Even when connected to real world gear that's playing back real world music. :)
Sounds like it's tough to get your hands on the uni-Fi speakers. Good reviews on them so far. I started my "speaker journey" with the BS22 about a year ago. Great speakers to start with. I'll probably step up in a year or two.
Hey J, the floor standers in that Pioneer A. Jones line really are GIANT killers! You own the BS-22's, so you owe it yo yourself to tryout the A. Jones FS52's at $100 ea. before moving onto another line. Your ears are already accustomed to the BS-22 sound which makes the Pioneer floor standers an affordable yet powerful upgrade in sound & performance. They've got true 8 element crossovers. How A. Jones was able to afford that costly of a crossover in a $100 tower speaker is a mystery. But all the real critics agree, the Pioneer Towers are the best speaker alive at $100 each. ~ peace
Do you think these would be an upgrade to my 25 year old NHT SuperTwo which were the same price range as these ELAC? Sounds like from what you say in this video my NHT's are better built with a better cabinet. Thoughts?
Different classes of speakers altogether but curious how they compare to the Pioneer FS22 and the Polk T50 you gave particularly strong praise for tone (which have me quite curious to try btw but saving up for the powered version of the UniFi, hopefully released later this year)
Objectively, the F6's are better speakers. Subjectively, I think the T50's make for a fun listening experience and are not at all embarrassed by the F6's. I could even see some people preferring the more lively character of the T50s over the softer, more reserve Elacs.
With elac debut b6 you can hear the cabinet with heavy base music? (Disco,Roc,Insrumental).Unfortunately i'll hear off axis, speakers will be at 2 meters high on my bookself, 7 inch from rear wall.The old speakers i have is in the same position.With elac b6 will i have problem with the rear wall? (base quality).I like heavy bass.I listened b6 in a dealer and was perfect (in stands and 1.5 ft from rear wall).
Hi Sean, I'm kind of in a dilemma here between buying a Canton Chrono 509DC, Monitor Audio Bronze 6 and Elac Debut F6. Can you help me out here and kindly giving me your valuable opinion? Many thanks in advanced.
I know you wrote this 3 years ago, but the answer is absolutely. However, the R-N602 is not a not an AV receiver; it's a stereo integrated amplifier. but you should know that by now since this was 3 years ago LOL
I have been looking for some decent 3-way floor standers that don't cost as much as B&W. Looks like my wish may have come true! Great informative video! But I want something that will PUNCH when listening to EDM. Will these provide that? Or should I go with Klipsch? Again, loved the video
Hello Wes. I gotta say man, the ELAC F6's aren't exactly lightweights when it comes to 'punch'. Klipsch is also pretty good in this regard, but I feel that Klipsch is more of a "you should try before you buy" speaker, whereas it's easier to get more consistent performance with ELAC's latest offerings. I will say this though, if you are BIG on experiencing a visceral sensation, then you may want to investigate their floorstanding speakers in the ELAC Uni line. They are even better suited for EDM!
Thanks for the reply! I am definitely looking for consistent performance. Also, I read Audioholics' review on SVS Prime towers and I am now wondering how they compare to ELAC's Uni line. I may just have to try the speakers for myself, lol!
I'm guessing that's exactly what you'll have to do. I dunno man, the market is full of good stuff. Elac Uni. Polk is doing some real special stuff. Dynaudio has their Emit series. I'm sure the SV speakers are quite nice as well. I will say though, the Elac stuff I've heard is a pretty safe bet.
You mention the cabinets. Discounting price, what are a comparable sounding pair of floor speakers with better, less-audible cabinets? I don't want to hear the enclosures at all.
I'm half-a-year late to your comment, but I wanted to respond to it anyway because you ask a good question. Here's the deal: You aren't going to find a set of large floor-standing loudspeakers, for under $1000 a pair, that boast of no audible cabinet resonances. Here's why: When you're building something to a price-point, you need to determine what compromises you're willing to make. When it comes to building an affordable floorstanding loudspeaker with multiple-drivers, most companies decide to invest their money into the drivers, binding posts, and aesthetics. The bottom line is that solid, rigid cabinets are expensive to make and expensive to ship. So they do what they can to employ intelligent bracing and then call it a day. And you know what? This is fine because most of the people who buy these products haven't owned $5000 + towers, so the compromises are perfectly liveable.
Thanks for watching. To answer your questions: My current reference speakers are the Rosso Fiorentino Volterras. The electronics that I used on the ELAC F6's include: Sony 770 receiver, Vista Audio Spark, Dayens Menuetto, iFi Audio Retro Stereo 50, AMR AM-777, Holographic Audio AMP-17, HEED Elixir, Karan Acoustic KA I-180.
a REAL WORLD REVIEW! Thx. So, you didn't talk about F6 performance in Home Theater. Thoughts? Like, will they be solid for upfront L+ R speaker duty in a 7.1 surround setup? I ask because... Christmas I'm upgrading my 7.1 sat speakers to REAL speakers. I'm leaning towards ELAC B5's across the front L+C+R & keeping my 2 way sats for the back 4 surrounds. Let me know what you think? Thx!
Hey Mykal, I never test anything out in the HT environment. Pure 2-channel baby! Still, I'd say the F6's would work very well for HT. The B5's, being monitors, won't do the same things that the F6's can do, but they'll still get the job done admirably well - especially for their size and price. The only word of caution I'll give you is that these speakers like power. I'm talking a good ole' fashioned beefy power-supply, which means wimpy receivers need not apply. If you do go this route, think about buying a receiver that carries an MSRP at around the $600-700 mark. Good luck!
Urgent! A time sensative sale & I may need to use your advice asap. 1st off, Thx for the fast reply to my last text! I have a question. Amazon has these 3 Towers at about same price. I know you like Polk alot. So I was stunned to see these big boys at this CHEAP price. Actually all 3 are big towers for under $130 JBL Studio 180 6.5-Inch Floorstanding... $123.75 each Polk Audio Monitor 60 Series II $115.70 each Pioneer SP-FS52-LR Andrew Jones $126.99 Hope to hear from you soon & thx for the fun videos. ~ mykal
The current JBL Studio series is wonderful for the $$$. The previous series before that (which is what you're referring to with the 180's), eh.. not so much. I'd most likely go for the Polk Monitor 60's if I were in your position. Don't get me wrong. The F6's ARE the better speakers. No question. But if you're wanting to keep it as cheap n' cheerful as possible, there ain't nothin' wrong with the Monitor 60's beyond some sizzle on the top end, which can be worked around.
I'm thinking about getting the F5 question for you are they very Bassy because I already have a big sub I'm looking for movie speakers or should I get the debut B6
If its down between the F5's and the B6's - go with the F5's. They're more balanced, the presentation (to include the bass) is cleaner, they're more dynamic, and can dish out a bit more volume.
How do these stack up against a similar set by Klipsch? any insight?, also is a basic macbook pro going to push these well enough or are these more designed for a stereo receiver with real power/ Thanks
While your Macbook Pro comes equipped with a low-powered headphone amplifier, it will not be able to power a set of conventional loudspeakers. No computer can, for that matter. If you're looking for a more traditional solution, you basically have two options: 1) Buy yourself a set of powered-speakers. These speakers come with a built-in amp. All you gotta do is connect them to your laptop, and you're done. A popular and affordable options is the JBL L305. Note that you'll likely be limited to small, bookshelf-type speakers if you go this route. 2) If you want to buy a more conventional speaker, like something from ELAC, Klipsch, Polk, etc.. then you will need to buy a separate receiver / integrated amplifier to power them. The good news is that this will give you a lot more flexibility in terms of options. The bad news is that it will cost more and take up more space. If you're looking at receivers, some of my favorite nowadays are simple pieces from Marantz or Sony . Good reliability and surprisingly good sound. And lastly, to answer your question: Klipsch and ELAC have a totally different sound. Klipsch has more of a "you are there/at the rock concert" type of sound. It's very forward, dynamic, and in-your-face. The ELAC by contrast, is softer, warmer, and is notably more balanced throughout the frequency range. I think the ELAC Debut is a much easier recommendation. Klipsch? That's more of a love it /hate it situation. That said, if you love it, then there really isn't much else like it for the $$$. My advice? Once you make a choice, buy from a retailer that offers a money-back guarantee. Cheers
Zero Fidelity ,you claim of the Klipsch “has more of a you are there/at the rock concert” any other time in the realm of speaker reviewing this would be the pinnacle of praise; comparing it to the original live concert. Whilst Using adjectives like softer and warmer, smack of colouration and band pass filtering. Your observations would equally describe the difference of any horn loaded tweeter vs. a direct radiating dome type of any two such dissimilar types of speaker designs. Paul Klipsch said distortion is inversely proportional to efficiency. Its sad that young reviewers of today rarely ever mention distortion and it is still the single largest contributor to listeners fatigue. Far more important than power handling, frequency response, and yes even cost. What are any of them really worth if after a few hours of listening one starts to fell anxious and tiers of the sound or worse grows increasingly fatigued and irritated?
Are you saying Elac couldn't build these speaker with A. Jones? Sure they could , they are using his name .They did the same thing with Pioneer bs22s.I think your review would not lead me to buying these.I think they are equal to many speakers in that price point.
Of course ELAC could have built an affordable line without Andrew Jones. And it probably wouldn't have sucked. That said, would it have been as good, as well-rounded, and as well-received as the Debut or Uni-Fi line that Andrew came up with? Probably not. The same can be said for Pioneer. Before he joined the team, their similar-priced efforts were mediocre at best. So yes, clearly there is value to having a man like Andrew Jones on your team. That said... I agree that there are plenty of other great affordable products out there. ELAC doesn't have an exclusive hold on the affordable market. For example: Subjectively speaking, I prefer the Polk T50's to the similar-priced Pioneer towers or ELAC bookshelf speakers. Still what, separates Andrews work from most of his competitors are the balance of virtues that his products, particularly the ELAC Debut F5, F6, and Uni-Fi UF5, bring to the table. This is exactly what I celebrate in my review. And no, I don't think ELAC could have done it without him.
The F5 and the F6 have a very similar sound. So before I immediately give you the answer, let me give you some context. Unlike the bookshelf speakers in the Debut line, which are voiced to "boom" in order to give the illusion of a larger speaker at work, both the F5 and the F6 are voiced to be as linear a possible - given the limitations of the parts and budget. The F5 may come across as the "quicker" sounding loudspeaker in small rooms, but as a whole, the F6 has the same sound. It just sounds.. bigger and more dynamic in scale than the F5. If I had to chose between the two and could accommodate the larger speaker, I'd def. go for the F6.
The concentric drivers are in the Uni-Fi line. Now, the differences between the Debut line and the Uni-Fi line are very distinct. The Debut is warm, easy going, and is designed to sound good in just about any situation. The Uni-Fi line, by contrast, is a bit more hi-fi. It's more clean, clear, extended on top, more dynamic, more 'balanced' across the frequency range, and has a more forward presentation. It's also a bit more particular about placement and gear, and isn't quite as friendly towards less than perfect recordings. What you'll ultimately prefer will boil down to taste.
Great info! I've got a set of Debut 2.0 6.2's (which I really like), but just moved and am up between the newer F6.2's or the Uni-Fi UF5's. Your review, and that description of both above have me leaning toward the F6.2's, given the challenging room they'll be in.
Great review. I just bought a new 4k 70" TV and was looking at Elac for my first HT setup. I was looking at a 3.0/3.1 setup initially with the B4/to 5/6 and a C5 paired with an Onkyo 656/757. After seeing the F6 I'm thinking maybe a 2.0/2.1 system with F6. Maybe a center channel later. Rears will be a pain to wire based on layout so a 5.1 with B4-6 would be out of the question for a while. In otherwords do you think the extra $200-300 for a 2.1 F6 is worth it over a say 3.1 B6 C5 set up. Thanks for any information
Great videos man, I really enjoy your takes. Anyway, at the 0:56 mark, I noticed that the right speaker is partially "covered up" by the bed. That is very similar situation with my sofa and my left speaker. How much does having a big piece of furniture like you have affect the image? I also use two subs, so I don't think it affects bass that much. Also note that the tweeters are free and clear to my listening position and I toe my speakers in.
with all respect but not every speaker AJ made was good, The pioneer s-31 was far from good. The canton ergo RC-l was sold for 700 euro a pair and is already 20 years old but beats the f6 by big lengths!
looks like a dual concentric driver like the pioneer elite es-f73's that i have. so i would bet the mids come from that driver surrounding the tweeter. ps. i really love my speakers. rounded cabinet to reduce bad vibs...
The dual-concentric drivers can be found in the line above the Debut series. This speaker relies on the more traditional done n' cone layout. Enjoy those Pioneers btw. Good stuff. :)
The message I'm getting is that they're fantastic VFM but once you take a closer look maybe not the giant killer that some people would have you believe.
+Zero Fidelity Agreed. The audio show show talk for the B5 was "$200 speaker producing bass on par with $20K speaker". Andrew Jones is certainly a rock star but it is a unfortunate to have the reality of the ELAC be a slight disappointment compared to the fever hype (and admittedly personal expectations). Whereas the Pioneer's reality & lasting impression was one of exceeding expectations and a happy glow feeling you got a super value. On the positive tip, word on the UniFi line is those do not have some of the boomy cabinet concerns I experienced with the B6 and that I think you slightly noted here for the F6.
7 years later and yeh they’re crap don’t get them lol. Too many people have said they’re muddy not the easiest to drive and shine unless using externals. I need to replace them now
That is an exact same tweeter from LOGIC3 system , i paid for it 40$ without amp used , that is a 10$ tweeter i think , its not flat has a bit of harsher tone to it , i think its due to some resonance , but maybe not , in any case , i have them on logic 3 speaker set , they are low end that is for sure, nothing expensive , they are aslo based on BBC monitor speaker , but dont think it sound like that , just looks like that , BBC has high end tweeter , thin plywood 9mm, and 3 Transformers size chokes in crossover , specially designed driver for it so on ,, so all in all its a cheap set of speakers , but 700$ is about 3x the price you need to pay to get that sound, you can get it for lot less , i got the tweeters for 40$ like i said , but its a3Inch woofer , so lets say another 200$ for Sub, and you have that for 250$, not to say there are no better speakers for that price , especialy used . Hell , you can get a Titanium dome tweeter and 8 inch woofer all with bi amplification and 4 AMPs for 250$ and that is NEW not used , but what would i know right
You wouldn't know much. That's for dang sure! That is a proprietary tweeter built by Elac, and only used in their speakers. It's not the same tweeter that's used in your crappy $40 system. You don't be a clue as to what you're talking about actually. So please. Stop pretending you do. Because if someone is dumb enough to take your advice. They're going to be seriously disappointed in the sound they hear.
Are you sure , i dont know , looks exactly the same as what i have here , and wouldnt it be expensive to make a tweeter for just one speaker set , you need a factory for that , its not cheap to avoid mass production .
i aint making no advice , i aint the one jumping in your pocket ,, he is doing those things , hes the one acting smart here , i just said that i have those tweeters , its Logic 3 set , thats the name . Maybe its not the same , but sure looks like it .
Andrew Jones "rising star"? He's only been a speaker designer with top notch companies like Pioneer, TAD and KEF for over 2 decades. I think you're a bit out of touch with that comment....
Andrew's career may span over two decades, but let's face it sbonamo, only hardcore audiophile geeks were aware of his work with KEF and TAD prior to his joining Pioneer and ELAC. Andrews reputation wouldn't morph into a 'household' industry name until his work with Pioneer. His latter work with ELAC cemented his reputation as one of the top loudspeaker engineers in the business. The bottom line is that there are few engineers in this business that the casual hi-fi shopper will recognize and/or respect. Andrew is among exclusive company in this regard. Nonetheless, it's important to note that this status only came about in recent years. Hence, "rising star". He's done great work, and I'm sure he'll continue to make positive contributions for many years to come.
You have to get your hands on a pair of Elac Uni-fi UF5 towers. I got them last month & they are great!! Check my video demo on youtube also! Thanks for the great video's.
if you could get back to me today let me know what you think member we were talking I'm getting the F5 up front you know the elac and Center Channel but before my wife knew that she got me a pair of bookshelf promonitor 1000 for the back should I take those back and get the B6 is I don't listen to music. I watch TV but mainly movies what do you think I was told it really not much difference in the back with those two speakers but you're the expert let me know and tell me why thank you I want to take him back today so could you please let me know today you are the coolest dude ever thank you I love your channel by the way
In a perfectly ideal world, you'd have the same exact speaker running at all channels. Since that's impractical for most of us in the real world, the next best solution is to 'timbre match', which means to use the same brand/same series of speakers throughout the entire HT system. So what should you do? First, let me take a moment to recognize your awesome wife! I think its awesome that she bought you some Def Techs! You got a keeper right there! So the big question is: should you return the Def Techs and pick up the B6's instead? Honestly man, I'd base my decision off of how it would make her feel. If the return would bum her out, then hold onto those Def Techs and use them as rears. They're fantastic speakers and rear-channel stuff isn't nearly as important as having three matched speakers up front. If however, she ends up being totally cool with you picking up the B6's instead, then go in that direction. When you get down to the nitty gritty, having a timbre matched system is the path to a more tonally balanced presentation.
Zero Fidelity my wife said it was cool to take back those speakers so do you think it will make it sound better are the B6 is better that's my question please let me know
1:29 First time he says that the waveguide disperses the sound and at 3:43 he says: "It's gonna have a more direct sound", which is right Mr ZERO Fidelity ? 2. Speaker with 15khz roll off, what ?! So it's not a full range speaker at all, not in lower side, not in higher side. 3. "The midrange on this if fantastic, maybe a little overly thick" Which is it afterall ? 4. Cabinet resonances? Are you serious ? I never never ever heard or read about cabinet resonance problem, There is AKAI in my country that has floorstanders at $30, yes $30 and they don't have cabinet resonances, WTF ELAC ? 5. "You hear the cabinet going, that's just insane talking. 6. So they sound "fantastic" but they have cabinet resonance, how can they sound good with cabinet resonance in the same sentence ? 7. My idea is that every compoent in this speakers are just pure crap starting with the finish and ending with bining posts. 8. "Point sourcey" in a hi-fi speaker, so these speakers are only for 1 person in the room? Really ? 9. My Dali Zensor 7s are bright but they are not hashy, and they are not sending me out of the room 10. A speaker manufactures should make great speakers for any price. So if you buy the cheapest model from a manufacturer and if you want to upgrade, you are a little forced to go with same manufacturer, but once you go ELACand you want to upgrade, you chose another manufacturer, you won't never and never go with a higher model from ELAC.
The Elacs look cheap. Went in expecting much more but they were not any better than my Jamo E825s. I listened to the 2.0s and was not impressed,... as a matter of fact I was kinda disappointed . Sorry, I cant get on the band wagon. Hyped too much is right.
Cool tech vid! I just bought an mpk from akai and I just uploaded one and im new to youtube. Check it out for me? Let me know what you think? Its good quality dont worry lol
An important distinction: best "all-arounders". And why exactly is that 'meh'? Were you hoping that I'd drop kick them on screen, set them ablaze, and tell you all that everyone was wrong and that they suck donkey balls? I was critical enough to where ELAC didn't even acknowledge this review. Oh well. You can only please some of the people, some of the time.
I just bought a pair of elac debut f6's and matched it with the new rega brio and a nad 516bee cd player and I can't believe how good this set up sounds. what a great pairing to my ears.
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Such a logical, realistic, comprehensive, well executed review -thanks so much man!
He is very intelligent and talktive.
Great review! With the release of the Debut 2.0, the regular F6 are now being marked down. Mine are arriving today. Paid $279/ea!
Terrific review, exactly what people need to know to match their tastes beyond unregulated specs; much appreciated.
Still watching in Nov. 2021. I must have watched this in full 4 or 5 times.
Your videos are great! They are so informative and very well thought out. It is such a pleasure learning from you.
Thanks a lot man!
Great info! I've got a set of Debut 2.0 6.2's (which I really like), but just moved and am up between the newer F6.2's or the Uni-Fi UF5's. Your review, and that description of their differences (in a thread below) have me leaning toward the F6.2's, given the challenging room they'll be in. Thanks!
thanks for taking the time to make this video. this was one of reasons that I bought a pair about three weeks ago.I could not be more pleased with this product. I am driving them with an older pioneer vsx 9990 130 a side of clean power. I am filling in the bottom with a couple of cheapie polk subs, I will certainly upgrade soon. I listen to a wide variety of music and I like it loud, these speakers take everything in stride. the midrange is smooth and lively, without being harsh. have you tried elacs 400 watt sub? I am considering it along with the Yamaha 250 sub. I got 20 years from my Yamaha ysx 100
Excellent review, thanks for posting. I have read & heard that these speakers lack bass, what do you think on that point?
how does it compare to Elac uni-fi UF5 speakers?
youtuberkt can you say something on that?
uni-fi sound more detailed top end maybe 5 percent better but theirs a price difference also
Sounds like a good platform for money savings and a little tweaking like slapping some fat mat on the inside walls, get some OCC wiring to replace what's inside and maybe some Furutech binding posts. If Steve Guttenberg thinks they're as good as speakers 2x the price but slightly flimsy construction, I believe it.
Thanks for the video, it was very informative. Especially from someone new to the world of home audio.
Ok how would you rate these compared to the pioneer FS52 andrew jones towers? Better or worse?
I Have Been Using Vintage Elac Tower Model Pair Of Speakers " Elac EL 110 " Made In W.Germany . Actually It Has Very Good Sound Quality , Durability , Phase Accurate Audio Calibration & Low Fatigue German Speaker For Stereo Listing Applications........
I've been listening to these and the Debut 2.0 and I like these better. Actually, I like these better than the much-more expensive Dynaudios I bought a few months ago.
i was thinking of getting these after your review, but I found a very sweet deal on paradigm reference studio 60 v3 floorstanders at almost half the price of elac. do you think it's a good deal? have you heard the paradigm?
Any chance of comparison with the Elac Uni fi uf5 or ub5?
Have you listen to the B5 or B5 2.0? Do you think the the original B5 would be ok placed a few inches from a back wall as I don’t have any other options or placement
Another great review. I can't wait to see what Andrew Jones does when get gets into higher end Elac models. I wonder how linear the bang per buck increase will be by moving up models. Exciting times for sure!
Thanks! I can't wait to see whats coming in above the Uni-Fi line. :D
Hi,
I see you were waiting on the Uni-Fi line?
Most what I've read about the Uni-Fi line
isn't good.
Folks are saying The ELAC F5 & F6's is money better spent.
I know it's been a year, but I wanted to respond to this anyway. So behind the scenes, a few friends of mine predicted that the sound would likely become a lot more TAD-like as the price went up. So far, it seems like that prediction has been correct. The Uni-Fi really begins to take on the "Andrew Jones" sound. Now, it seems like the Adante line is a complete departure from the Debut series, which means we're now entering truly polarizing territory.
How do these compare against Polk Audio T50?
I know Polks are much cheaper, but you praised them to a such degree that I wonder if they can compete with these or come even close?
BUT YOU HAVE THE FLUENCE SPEAKERS ON THE LEFT.
ARE THESE BETTER THAN THE FLUENCE?
Nope. No Fluance speakers here. Can't think of a situation where I'd take those over the Elacs. :D
The Debut line looks impressive, but I'm honestly much more interested in the Uni-Fi line, which seems to offer a lot more performance for not much more money. I know...your readers/viewers are never satisfied. :-D Nice work. Keep it up!
Thanks David. :) The Uni-Fi line looks cool as hell. Word on the grapevine is that the Uni-Fi speakers are quite a bit more revealing. As you well know, the more revealing a speaker is the more obvious the tradeoffs tend to be. One of the most appealing things about the Debut F6 towers is how tough it is to make them sound bad. Even when connected to real world gear that's playing back real world music. :)
Sounds like it's tough to get your hands on the uni-Fi speakers. Good reviews on them so far. I started my "speaker journey" with the BS22 about a year ago. Great speakers to start with. I'll probably step up in a year or two.
The BS-22's are a superb way to start off! Enjoy!
Hey J,
the floor standers in that Pioneer A. Jones line
really are GIANT killers!
You own the BS-22's,
so you owe it yo yourself to
tryout the A. Jones FS52's at $100 ea.
before moving onto another line.
Your ears are already accustomed to the BS-22
sound which makes the Pioneer floor standers
an affordable yet powerful upgrade in sound & performance.
They've got true 8 element crossovers.
How A. Jones was able to afford that costly of a crossover
in a $100 tower speaker is a mystery.
But all the real critics agree, the Pioneer Towers are the
best speaker alive at $100 each.
~ peace
So... are planing on reviewing any of the Uni-fi lineup?
so, do you have any videos on the pros and cons of different amp classifications? (class A, A/B, D, T) Loving the channel so far, cheers!
This might sound like a silly question...do they need a separate subwoofer?
HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT HIS PIONEER DOLBY ATMOS FLOORSTANDERS?
When you mention the BBC speaker, do you mean the Rogers LS3/5A?
It's hard to believe the midrange can compete with these classical monitors..
would it be possible to negate the cabinet noise with bracing it yourself?
Do you think these would be an upgrade to my 25 year old NHT SuperTwo which were the same price range as these ELAC? Sounds like from what you say in this video my NHT's are better built with a better cabinet. Thoughts?
I had the NHTs and these blow them away, especially in imaging, bass tautness, and their ability to sound more like real (live) music, IMO.
I like the BBC reference. The one thing I don't like is the metal pegs on the face of the speakers.
Many thanks for the review. Could you please advise which amp is best to drive these speakers ? Any thoughts about Emotiva ( best budget concern)
Different classes of speakers altogether but curious how they compare to the Pioneer FS22 and the Polk T50 you gave particularly strong praise for tone (which have me quite curious to try btw but saving up for the powered version of the UniFi, hopefully released later this year)
Objectively, the F6's are better speakers. Subjectively, I think the T50's make for a fun listening experience and are not at all embarrassed by the F6's. I could even see some people preferring the more lively character of the T50s over the softer, more reserve Elacs.
Can you compare this Elac debut f6.2 with Q acoustiocs 3050i. Can any comment on this comparison
Great review!
if you could please let me know soon I'm looking to get me a pair of speakers to go with my C5 Center channel from elac
With elac debut b6 you can hear the cabinet with heavy base music? (Disco,Roc,Insrumental).Unfortunately i'll hear off axis, speakers will be at 2 meters high on my bookself, 7 inch from rear wall.The old speakers i have is in the same position.With elac b6 will i have problem with the rear wall? (base quality).I like heavy bass.I listened b6 in a dealer and was perfect (in stands and 1.5 ft from rear wall).
Andreas South i hve the b6's and love the sound when they are about 10 inches from the wall
Hi. What does these speakeakers work with a 15wts tube amp ?
Just wondering why I can’t find elac in what hi fi for years
Hi Sean,
I'm kind of in a dilemma here between buying a Canton Chrono 509DC, Monitor Audio Bronze 6 and Elac Debut F6. Can you help me out here and kindly giving me your valuable opinion?
Many thanks in advanced.
Cantons hands down !
Thank you for the review! Will my Yamaha R-N602 AV Receiver work with these speakers?
I know you wrote this 3 years ago, but the answer is absolutely. However, the R-N602 is not a not an AV receiver; it's a stereo integrated amplifier. but you should know that by now since this was 3 years ago LOL
@@CeeStyleDj Never too late! Thanks dear!
I have been looking for some decent 3-way floor standers that don't cost as much as B&W. Looks like my wish may have come true! Great informative video! But I want something that will PUNCH when listening to EDM. Will these provide that? Or should I go with Klipsch? Again, loved the video
Hello Wes. I gotta say man, the ELAC F6's aren't exactly lightweights when it comes to 'punch'. Klipsch is also pretty good in this regard, but I feel that Klipsch is more of a "you should try before you buy" speaker, whereas it's easier to get more consistent performance with ELAC's latest offerings. I will say this though, if you are BIG on experiencing a visceral sensation, then you may want to investigate their floorstanding speakers in the ELAC Uni line. They are even better suited for EDM!
Thanks for the reply! I am definitely looking for consistent performance. Also, I read Audioholics' review on SVS Prime towers and I am now wondering how they compare to ELAC's Uni line. I may just have to try the speakers for myself, lol!
I'm guessing that's exactly what you'll have to do. I dunno man, the market is full of good stuff. Elac Uni. Polk is doing some real special stuff. Dynaudio has their Emit series. I'm sure the SV speakers are quite nice as well. I will say though, the Elac stuff I've heard is a pretty safe bet.
Zero Fidelity alright. I will have to compare the two. Thanks so much for your response!
You mention the cabinets. Discounting price, what are a comparable sounding pair of floor speakers with better, less-audible cabinets? I don't want to hear the enclosures at all.
I'm half-a-year late to your comment, but I wanted to respond to it anyway because you ask a good question. Here's the deal: You aren't going to find a set of large floor-standing loudspeakers, for under $1000 a pair, that boast of no audible cabinet resonances. Here's why:
When you're building something to a price-point, you need to determine what compromises you're willing to make. When it comes to building an affordable floorstanding loudspeaker with multiple-drivers, most companies decide to invest their money into the drivers, binding posts, and aesthetics. The bottom line is that solid, rigid cabinets are expensive to make and expensive to ship. So they do what they can to employ intelligent bracing and then call it a day. And you know what? This is fine because most of the people who buy these products haven't owned $5000 + towers, so the compromises are perfectly liveable.
If you h ad a set budget would you go towers or bookshelf and sub?
Thanks for your time and effort on videos.
Would you mind sharing what you powered them with and what your current reference speaker?
Thank you
Thanks for watching. To answer your questions: My current reference speakers are the Rosso Fiorentino Volterras. The electronics that I used on the ELAC F6's include: Sony 770 receiver, Vista Audio Spark, Dayens Menuetto, iFi Audio Retro Stereo 50, AMR AM-777, Holographic Audio AMP-17, HEED Elixir, Karan Acoustic KA I-180.
a REAL WORLD REVIEW!
Thx.
So, you didn't talk about F6 performance
in Home Theater.
Thoughts?
Like, will they be solid for upfront L+ R speaker
duty in a 7.1 surround setup?
I ask because...
Christmas I'm upgrading my 7.1 sat speakers
to REAL speakers.
I'm leaning towards ELAC B5's across the front L+C+R
& keeping my 2 way sats for the back 4 surrounds.
Let me know what you think?
Thx!
Hey Mykal,
I never test anything out in the HT environment. Pure 2-channel baby! Still, I'd say the F6's would work very well for HT. The B5's, being monitors, won't do the same things that the F6's can do, but they'll still get the job done admirably well - especially for their size and price.
The only word of caution I'll give you is that these speakers like power. I'm talking a good ole' fashioned beefy power-supply, which means wimpy receivers need not apply. If you do go this route, think about buying a receiver that carries an MSRP at around the $600-700 mark.
Good luck!
Urgent!
A time sensative sale & I may need to use
your advice asap.
1st off,
Thx for the fast reply to my last text!
I have a question.
Amazon has these 3 Towers at about
same price.
I know you like Polk alot.
So I was stunned to see these big boys
at this CHEAP price.
Actually all 3 are big towers for under $130
JBL Studio 180 6.5-Inch Floorstanding...
$123.75 each
Polk Audio Monitor 60 Series II
$115.70 each
Pioneer SP-FS52-LR Andrew Jones
$126.99
Hope to hear from you soon & thx for the fun videos.
~ mykal
The current JBL Studio series is wonderful for the $$$. The previous series before that (which is what you're referring to with the 180's), eh.. not so much.
I'd most likely go for the Polk Monitor 60's if I were in your position.
Don't get me wrong. The F6's ARE the better speakers. No question. But if you're wanting to keep it as cheap n' cheerful as possible, there ain't nothin' wrong with the Monitor 60's beyond some sizzle on the top end, which can be worked around.
Do the drivers have small magnets ?
Snazzy video!!! Always informative.
Thanks!
What are good speakers for House Music?
What do you think about Wharfedale diamond 250?
I'm thinking about getting the F5 question for you are they very Bassy because I already have a big sub I'm looking for movie speakers or should I get the debut B6
If its down between the F5's and the B6's - go with the F5's. They're more balanced, the presentation (to include the bass) is cleaner, they're more dynamic, and can dish out a bit more volume.
These vs the Q Acoustics 3050 ?
Monitor audio bronze 5 vs Elac f6?
How do these stack up against a similar set by Klipsch? any insight?, also is a basic macbook pro going to push these well enough or are these more designed for a stereo receiver with real power/ Thanks
While your Macbook Pro comes equipped with a low-powered headphone amplifier, it will not be able to power a set of conventional loudspeakers. No computer can, for that matter. If you're looking for a more traditional solution, you basically have two options:
1) Buy yourself a set of powered-speakers. These speakers come with a built-in amp. All you gotta do is connect them to your laptop, and you're done. A popular and affordable options is the JBL L305. Note that you'll likely be limited to small, bookshelf-type speakers if you go this route.
2) If you want to buy a more conventional speaker, like something from ELAC, Klipsch, Polk, etc.. then you will need to buy a separate receiver / integrated amplifier to power them. The good news is that this will give you a lot more flexibility in terms of options. The bad news is that it will cost more and take up more space. If you're looking at receivers, some of my favorite nowadays are simple pieces from Marantz or Sony . Good reliability and surprisingly good sound.
And lastly, to answer your question: Klipsch and ELAC have a totally different sound. Klipsch has more of a "you are there/at the rock concert" type of sound. It's very forward, dynamic, and in-your-face. The ELAC by contrast, is softer, warmer, and is notably more balanced throughout the frequency range. I think the ELAC Debut is a much easier recommendation. Klipsch? That's more of a love it /hate it situation. That said, if you love it, then there really isn't much else like it for the $$$. My advice? Once you make a choice, buy from a retailer that offers a money-back guarantee.
Cheers
Man, thank you so much for this response. It helps a lot. Good on ya!
Zero Fidelity ,you claim of the Klipsch “has more of a you are there/at the rock concert” any other time in the realm of speaker reviewing this would be the pinnacle of praise; comparing it to the original live concert. Whilst Using adjectives like softer and warmer, smack of colouration and band pass filtering. Your observations would equally describe the difference of any horn loaded tweeter vs. a direct radiating dome type of any two such dissimilar types of speaker designs. Paul Klipsch said distortion is inversely proportional to efficiency. Its sad that young reviewers of today rarely ever mention distortion and it is still the single largest contributor to listeners fatigue. Far more important than power handling, frequency response, and yes even cost. What are any of them really worth if after a few hours of listening one starts to fell anxious and tiers of the sound or worse grows increasingly fatigued and irritated?
Are the Mistral LS3/5A's better?
If only andrew jones would design a quality low cost microphone for you.
You mean one without all of the room echo? Good idea. Perhaps a small body mike or whatever they're called.
Are you saying Elac couldn't build these speaker with A. Jones? Sure they could , they are using his name .They did the same thing with Pioneer bs22s.I think your review would not lead me to buying these.I think they are equal to many speakers in that price point.
Of course ELAC could have built an affordable line without Andrew Jones. And it probably wouldn't have sucked. That said, would it have been as good, as well-rounded, and as well-received as the Debut or Uni-Fi line that Andrew came up with? Probably not. The same can be said for Pioneer. Before he joined the team, their similar-priced efforts were mediocre at best. So yes, clearly there is value to having a man like Andrew Jones on your team. That said...
I agree that there are plenty of other great affordable products out there. ELAC doesn't have an exclusive hold on the affordable market. For example: Subjectively speaking, I prefer the Polk T50's to the similar-priced Pioneer towers or ELAC bookshelf speakers. Still what, separates Andrews work from most of his competitors are the balance of virtues that his products, particularly the ELAC Debut F5, F6, and Uni-Fi UF5, bring to the table. This is exactly what I celebrate in my review. And no, I don't think ELAC could have done it without him.
How would you compare the F6 to the F5?
The F5 and the F6 have a very similar sound. So before I immediately give you the answer, let me give you some context. Unlike the bookshelf speakers in the Debut line, which are voiced to "boom" in order to give the illusion of a larger speaker at work, both the F5 and the F6 are voiced to be as linear a possible - given the limitations of the parts and budget. The F5 may come across as the "quicker" sounding loudspeaker in small rooms, but as a whole, the F6 has the same sound. It just sounds.. bigger and more dynamic in scale than the F5. If I had to chose between the two and could accommodate the larger speaker, I'd def. go for the F6.
The concentric drivers in the F5 doesn't make any difference in sound for your hears? What about highs?
The concentric drivers are in the Uni-Fi line. Now, the differences between the Debut line and the Uni-Fi line are very distinct. The Debut is warm, easy going, and is designed to sound good in just about any situation. The Uni-Fi line, by contrast, is a bit more hi-fi. It's more clean, clear, extended on top, more dynamic, more 'balanced' across the frequency range, and has a more forward presentation. It's also a bit more particular about placement and gear, and isn't quite as friendly towards less than perfect recordings. What you'll ultimately prefer will boil down to taste.
Great info! I've got a set of Debut 2.0 6.2's (which I really like), but just moved and am up between the newer F6.2's or the Uni-Fi UF5's. Your review, and that description of both above have me leaning toward the F6.2's, given the challenging room they'll be in.
Who is Andrew Jones' buddy ELAC grabbed along with him that you speak of?
Chris - who has been busting his hump with the wonderful new ELAC streamer.
Need to get my hands on the Discovery as well
Great review
Great review. I just bought a new 4k 70" TV and was looking at Elac for my first HT setup. I was looking at a 3.0/3.1 setup initially with the B4/to 5/6 and a C5 paired with an Onkyo 656/757. After seeing the F6 I'm thinking maybe a 2.0/2.1 system with F6. Maybe a center channel later. Rears will be a pain to wire based on layout so a 5.1 with B4-6 would be out of the question for a while. In otherwords do you think the extra $200-300 for a 2.1 F6 is worth it over a say 3.1 B6 C5 set up. Thanks for any information
these or unifi f5?
I can't see the phone music crowd buying these larger speakers. Probably for people with decent cd players or entry level turntables.
Ray Davies well, I was shopping headphones and ended up buying speakers, though I don’t like forcing other people to listen to my music with speakers.
Great Review!
Great videos man, I really enjoy your takes. Anyway, at the 0:56 mark, I noticed that the right speaker is partially "covered up" by the bed. That is very similar situation with my sofa and my left speaker. How much does having a big piece of furniture like you have affect the image? I also use two subs, so I don't think it affects bass that much. Also note that the tweeters are free and clear to my listening position and I toe my speakers in.
Is this compatible on onkyo tx rz 800 which is 180w per channel ? Newbie here
Yep!
with all respect but not every speaker AJ made was good, The pioneer s-31 was far from good. The canton ergo RC-l was sold for 700 euro a pair and is already 20 years old but beats the f6 by big lengths!
I was wondering - how these ELACs compare to something like a KEF104/2 or Polk Audio SDA 1 ???
That one plump girl who sing....she all about that bass.....that bass.....that bass. Okay we get it.
looks like a dual concentric driver like the pioneer elite es-f73's that i have. so i would bet the mids come from that driver surrounding the tweeter.
ps. i really love my speakers. rounded cabinet to reduce bad vibs...
on never mind the mids on this are the top large driver. my bad,
The dual-concentric drivers can be found in the line above the Debut series. This speaker relies on the more traditional done n' cone layout. Enjoy those Pioneers btw. Good stuff. :)
S'all good!
I love his videos
Thanks!
+Zero Fidelity you welcome bro
The message I'm getting is that they're fantastic VFM but once you take a closer look maybe not the giant killer that some people would have you believe.
Correct. They're great speakers for the buck. I just wish people would drop the whole 'giant killer' BS.
+Zero Fidelity Agreed. The audio show show talk for the B5 was "$200 speaker producing bass on par with $20K speaker". Andrew Jones is certainly a rock star but it is a unfortunate to have the reality of the ELAC be a slight disappointment compared to the fever hype (and admittedly personal expectations). Whereas the Pioneer's reality & lasting impression was one of exceeding expectations and a happy glow feeling you got a super value. On the positive tip, word on the UniFi line is those do not have some of the boomy cabinet concerns I experienced with the B6 and that I think you slightly noted here for the F6.
Yup. I will say this: People who are getting into this hobby are pretty lucky. So are so many great, affordable options in the market nowadays. :D
+Zero Fidelity Amen to that. It certainly feels like a golden era of affordable audiophile quality gear at entry level prices.
Agree'd!
Some of the bookshelf models today
are outperforming very expensive models
from say 10 years ago.
no sound demo?
Nope. I got rid of my mic setup along time ago. The only thing that I use right now are the built-in mics on my camera. It's not even worth doing.
+Zero Fidelity sorry!didn't know 'cause it's just recently i started watching ur videos.
Np man. Thanks for watching. :)
Review the new Polk signature series please!!!
7 years later and yeh they’re crap don’t get them lol. Too many people have said they’re muddy not the easiest to drive and shine unless using externals. I need to replace them now
That is an exact same tweeter from LOGIC3 system , i paid for it 40$ without amp used , that is a 10$ tweeter i think , its not flat has a bit of harsher tone to it , i think its due to some resonance , but maybe not , in any case , i have them on logic 3 speaker set , they are low end that is for sure, nothing expensive , they are aslo based on BBC monitor speaker , but dont think it sound like that , just looks like that , BBC has high end tweeter , thin plywood 9mm, and 3 Transformers size chokes in crossover , specially designed driver for it so on ,, so all in all its a cheap set of speakers , but 700$ is about 3x the price you need to pay to get that sound, you can get it for lot less , i got the tweeters for 40$ like i said , but its a3Inch woofer , so lets say another 200$ for Sub, and you have that for 250$, not to say there are no better speakers for that price , especialy used . Hell , you can get a Titanium dome tweeter and 8 inch woofer all with bi amplification and 4 AMPs for 250$ and that is NEW not used , but what would i know right
You wouldn't know much. That's for dang sure! That is a proprietary tweeter built by Elac, and only used in their speakers. It's not the same tweeter that's used in your crappy $40 system. You don't be a clue as to what you're talking about actually. So please. Stop pretending you do. Because if someone is dumb enough to take your advice. They're going to be seriously disappointed in the sound they hear.
Are you sure , i dont know , looks exactly the same as what i have here , and wouldnt it be expensive to make a tweeter for just one speaker set , you need a factory for that , its not cheap to avoid mass production .
i aint making no advice , i aint the one jumping in your pocket ,, he is doing those things , hes the one acting smart here , i just said that i have those tweeters , its Logic 3 set , thats the name . Maybe its not the same , but sure looks like it .
Andrew Jones "rising star"? He's only been a speaker designer with top notch companies like Pioneer, TAD and KEF for over 2 decades. I think you're a bit out of touch with that comment....
I think you misunderstood his statement. Since Pioneer his name has become SIGNIFICANTLY more mainstream. There's no doubt about that.
Ryan Hietpas Indeed! Stardom has always been more about fame than talent. I'm looking at you Britney Spears!
Andrew's career may span over two decades, but let's face it sbonamo, only hardcore audiophile geeks were aware of his work with KEF and TAD prior to his joining Pioneer and ELAC. Andrews reputation wouldn't morph into a 'household' industry name until his work with Pioneer. His latter work with ELAC cemented his reputation as one of the top loudspeaker engineers in the business. The bottom line is that there are few engineers in this business that the casual hi-fi shopper will recognize and/or respect. Andrew is among exclusive company in this regard. Nonetheless, it's important to note that this status only came about in recent years. Hence, "rising star". He's done great work, and I'm sure he'll continue to make positive contributions for many years to come.
sbonamo, is this Andrew Jones same level with Bart Locanthi who designed and built the famous Pioneer HPM-100 with regards to speaker building?
@@ZeroFidelity And only hardcore audiophiles know him now...bring him up at work..at Thanksgiving...or Christmas and you shall hear crickets...
Dude looks blazed....lol
You have to get your hands on a pair of Elac Uni-fi UF5 towers. I got them last month & they are great!! Check my video demo on youtube also! Thanks for the great video's.
Thanks Joseph. Glad you're diggin on the UF5's!
A lot of words and no music test or sample ?!
+Robert Helembai: ... and what would be the point of that exactly? Think before you post.
Try Tekton Design. Any speaker!!!
if you could get back to me today let me know what you think member we were talking I'm getting the F5 up front you know the elac and Center Channel but before my wife knew that she got me a pair of bookshelf promonitor 1000 for the back should I take those back and get the B6 is I don't listen to music. I watch TV but mainly movies what do you think I was told it really not much difference in the back with those two speakers but you're the expert let me know and tell me why thank you I want to take him back today so could you please let me know today you are the coolest dude ever thank you I love your channel by the way
In a perfectly ideal world, you'd have the same exact speaker running at all channels. Since that's impractical for most of us in the real world, the next best solution is to 'timbre match', which means to use the same brand/same series of speakers throughout the entire HT system.
So what should you do?
First, let me take a moment to recognize your awesome wife! I think its awesome that she bought you some Def Techs! You got a keeper right there! So the big question is: should you return the Def Techs and pick up the B6's instead?
Honestly man, I'd base my decision off of how it would make her feel. If the return would bum her out, then hold onto those Def Techs and use them as rears. They're fantastic speakers and rear-channel stuff isn't nearly as important as having three matched speakers up front. If however, she ends up being totally cool with you picking up the B6's instead, then go in that direction. When you get down to the nitty gritty, having a timbre matched system is the path to a more tonally balanced presentation.
Dude you're the coolest guy in the world thanks for thinking about my life and helping me out with that
She wouldn't care if I take the speaker's back so would it make a difference if I got the elac or the death teach sounds just as good
Zero Fidelity my wife said it was cool to take back those speakers so do you think it will make it sound better are the B6 is better that's my question please let me know
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I feel the hype train coming ... Andrew Jones , very generic name that , anyone actually
met him ... man or myth ? : )
1:29 First time he says that the waveguide disperses the sound and at 3:43 he says: "It's gonna have a more direct sound", which is right Mr ZERO Fidelity ?
2. Speaker with 15khz roll off, what ?! So it's not a full range speaker at all, not in lower side, not in higher side.
3. "The midrange on this if fantastic, maybe a little overly thick" Which is it afterall ?
4. Cabinet resonances? Are you serious ? I never never ever heard or read about cabinet resonance problem, There is AKAI in my country that has floorstanders at $30, yes $30 and they don't have cabinet resonances, WTF ELAC ?
5. "You hear the cabinet going, that's just insane talking.
6. So they sound "fantastic" but they have cabinet resonance, how can they sound good with cabinet resonance in the same sentence ?
7. My idea is that every compoent in this speakers are just pure crap starting with the finish and ending with bining posts.
8. "Point sourcey" in a hi-fi speaker, so these speakers are only for 1 person in the room? Really ?
9. My Dali Zensor 7s are bright but they are not hashy, and they are not sending me out of the room
10. A speaker manufactures should make great speakers for any price. So if you buy the cheapest model from a manufacturer and if you want to upgrade, you are a little forced to go with same manufacturer, but once you go ELACand you want to upgrade, you chose another manufacturer, you won't never and never go with a higher model from ELAC.
The Elacs look cheap. Went in expecting much more but they were not any better than my Jamo E825s. I listened to the 2.0s and was not impressed,... as a matter of fact I was kinda disappointed . Sorry, I cant get on the band wagon. Hyped too much is right.
gj!
Thanks!
Cool tech vid! I just bought an mpk from akai and I just uploaded one and im new to youtube. Check it out for me? Let me know what you think? Its good quality dont worry lol
Just checked out your vid. Cool stuff man. You've got a great, natural flow. I hope you enjoy the process of making videos!
thankyou for the feedback means alot!
I'm thinking about selling my pioneer entry level Andrew jones towers for these speakers will I notice a remarkable difference ?
Yup. Better in every way.
not review, he is selling it
They may be some of the best speakers he's heard at their price point. Meh.
An important distinction: best "all-arounders". And why exactly is that 'meh'? Were you hoping that I'd drop kick them on screen, set them ablaze, and tell you all that everyone was wrong and that they suck donkey balls? I was critical enough to where ELAC didn't even acknowledge this review. Oh well. You can only please some of the people, some of the time.
Haha...meh to that quack.
I know one thing from this review. You like talking!
Weak. Only 6.5" woofers. And no mid-range. Speakers should pound. Pass.