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I contemplate this often. I love my mom so much I can’t fathom living without her to the point where I hope I go first. But that means she would have to live with a pain of not having me around and I don’t want her to feel that either. The only way around it is to live in the moment. Enjoy every moment that you can.❤
@@brandonford8092Brandon, looks to me like the person who posted the above comment that you're responding to is a female, so you might perhaps consider editing your comment, unless I'm missing something 🤷♀️
Bro yeah. I love my mum to the same extent. Nothing eodipusal. Just pure love for my mum. Shes been though 40 years of being bullied by my dad. lol But life is this thing which is so precious. Shes out now and im so proud of her. Im not forcing her to anything. Best woman ever. But I dont worry about going before her. Perhaps coming at different angles in that respect. We now despite being on different sides of the planet adventure together as much as we can. The best thing is bro living life with her. Do it, bacardi and coke, do it.
@Kd ... Well, I'm on the "Other Side" of your worry now, and it is quite different without my mother still being in my life. Trust me. Enjoy every moment, because the time is so short.
Thats a typical statement i see posted from people that are consumed by fear. Its all bullshit. The truth of everything is black ,the more insight you get the harder it becomes to stay alive.
It is that simple if you break it down into its basics. We face one of two possibilities. One is that our consciousness does not exist beyond death. The second is that our consciousness does exist beyond death. If nothing exists beyond this reality then your consciousness won't realize it. If something does exist beyond this reality then it is just another adventure. Peace be with everyone.
Well that all depends on what reality exists, post death. If the religions of humanity were or are correct, than it will depend heavily upon how each person lived their life. Especially if we are all graded upon the Ten Commandments! Fairly certain the vast and overwhelming majority of people alive today aren’t going on an “adventure” anymore than being tortured for eternity would sound like an “adventure”.
@@sarahalderman3126 Again it all comes down to one of two options though. Either something does persist or it does not. All the rest involving God/religion/morality/karma/etc. comes after that binary event.
@@sarahalderman3126 This is not a choice. It either is or it is not. Also, the double slit experiment demonstrates that two states can be present at one time so "every situation in this universe" is not binary.
@@ThePuttercross yes two states can exist at once, however that does not negate the fact that one was correct and the other incorrect. There either is or there is not, there is no third option. But yes you’re correct there is no “choice”, it is simply one or the other. So sure, it isn’t necessarily restricted to this universe, but rather this reality, of which the same option is then applied again. There either are or there is not.
I’m struggling with it. I can’t stop imagining the lack of imagination. It’s terrifying. It doesn’t go away. I can’t hide from it. I can’t numb it down by building a resistance and overthinking it. It just makes me want to stop what I’m doing at 3am and go hug the person I love, as if that’s the only cure.
Yup. That’s why I envy people who believe in supernatural stuff like God and afterlife. That must be soothing. But, unfortunately, it’s a self deception nonetheless.
@@nikitamcconnell8027feel the same way about it. Thats why I follow Buddhism instead because it is the only major religion that does not have a god. Instead, they believe that a little piece of “god” is within all living beings. “God” meaning the universe. And instead of lying to you about the afterlife, Buddhists believe instead that your journey is here and whatever happens after does not matter. You cannot control it, so why worry about it or try to convince yourself on something that is realistically unknown. Just do what you can to make peace with living beings while your on earth and just hope for the best for whatever comes afterward.
🙏 Amen❣ Invite God to walk along beside you, guiding your footsteps & actions. Then live without fear, knowing you are saved & can look forward to eternity with The One who has Saved you... Never forget: Jesus died for you, and ALL of humanity who will be saved. Therefore, we have ETERNITY to look forward to, where we truly won't have to ever think about death‼️ Hallelujah, Thank You God for Your beautiful Plan of Salvation❣ What a beautiful GIFT💝
Here's a few things I've come to understand about myself and death: Firstly, there is NOTHING you can sacrifice, offering, or rationale to death, that will satisfy it. If your rationale is "I'm only 25", well one day you wake up and you're 35 and then what? Are you gonna say "well at least I am not 45"? Are you going to stop drinking, eat healthily, etc to distance yourself from it? Fine, but it IS gonna close on you nevertheless. Secondly, the thought of death as "you" becoming "nothing", like void from the set of consciousnesses, is a story I tell myself. In reality, I don't know what death means, what comes after, and what doesn't. The fear of death then becomes a fear of uncertainty, but I find it much easier (in the good way) to be afraid of uncertainty than afraid of certain nothingness, in my opinion. Thirdly, given that I don't know what death even entails for me, that there's uncertainty, you are not at fault for believing in something you find meaningful. So, if you want to believe that you will arrive at Saint Peter's Gate, it's not so unreasonable as some may make it sound like. Those that claim this is all a coping mechanism may misunderstand, because this belief is made upon the realization of the lack of knowledge of what death means, not what death does mean. And beyond anything, if you continue to throw the fear of death your excuses to ignore it, you will not find salvation. It is a place where appreciation of life goes to die before life can even end. It is the very definition of irrational, but yet something one must struggle with. But granted that life is finite, what point is there to letting inevitable death define your mood and outlook? There is none. The fear of death is not rational.
@@Redflowers9 The process of dying itself? We're all dying right now, but I suppose you mean a state of rapid decline towards death. But what does that look like? Gradual breakdown of bodily functions due to cancer? Disease? Being eaten alive by a lion? Burning alive? Or falling asleep like normal and just not waking up? There's uncertainty again, in what dying actually is. Will it be unpleasant? Maybe, but be fearful of it? Sure, dying from being burned alive sounds awful, but there's no reason to let that paralyze you. If it does, maybe it's actually because you're doing something stupid that puts you at a high risk of dying in a way you fear, but if you're not doing that, then why? Fear like that is irrational. The possibilities of meeting an uncomfortable end are practically limitless, but instead of letting that rule your mind with fear, why not just see if you're doing what you can with your own abilities to try to avoid the ways to die you don't want to have to go through? At least then you can tell yourself that you're doing your part, which should put the mind at ease.
I don’t think “wanting” to believe something is intellectually honest. I agree with most of your comment but we don’t choose beliefs. As awesome as Christian heaven sounds (at least for a few thousand years) I can’t force myself to believe that it’s real.
@@donharris8846 It's not about "wanting" (badly phrased on my part) to believe, but deciding on something that makes sense to you. I only raise this point because I realized I was constrained by something I told myself to be true, but that I ultimately don't have any proof of, and I can reassess and think about it more critically. For many, "nothing" is the answer they go with. But for me "nothing" doesn't really make sense, because it seems to be a contradictory term, so I decided "not nothing" made more sense for now, which still leaves a lot to be desired, but at least it's something.
I’m struggling with it. I can’t stop imagining the lack of imagination. It’s terrifying. It doesn’t go away. I can’t hide from it. I can’t numb it down by building a resistance and overthinking it. It just makes me want to stop what I’m doing at 3am and go hug the person I love, as if that’s the only cure.
@@itsSoaren In my experience not running away from the terrifying nature of the thoughts solved the situation. It's uncomfortable and scary, that being said though we can't control mortality, we can control how it affects us.
@@azt3ca it feels like most people merely aren’t perceptive enough to relate, even scrolling through the comments I can’t help but feel further away from others than closer. Feels like we’re just lambs for the slaughter. I genuinely appreciate your response, it was more than I could have asked for. What makes it even more difficult is loved ones. It’s hard enough thinking about these concepts as they pertain to ourselves, but when you have people that you love even more than your own conscientious.. it gets even more frightening. Around when did you “outgrow” these fears? Or were you never scared at all?
Yo aun no he podido llegar a una solución al dolor del sentido de morir, me pasa exactamente lo mismo que a ti. Me ayuda mucho dejar absolutamente todo de mi, toda mi energía durante el dia, siento que exactamente como la ansiedad, el miedo a la muerte me ayuda a poder valorar mucho mas el tiempo que la vida me dio para estar consciente @@itsSoaren
@@francisco_ponce Dicen que un hombre tiene dos vidas, la primera vida la vive y la desperdicia, y la segunda vida en la que se da cuenta de que solo tiene una vida.
Some nights I will wake up out of nowhere and physically get up out and walk around my bedroom breathing deeply (almost hyperventilating) saying “Holy shit, oh my god.” at the thought of one day simply NOT EXISTING. The scariest part is that it’s inevitable. Not “holy shit, omg I lost money in the stock market.” but holy crap I WILL BE DEAD. Weird thought. Then I lay back down and slowly breathe till I fall back asleep. Those are some of my most terrifying moments and they come out of nowhere. Lil anxiety attacks
The human condition. This terror connects you w every self aware being in the cosmos. Try meditation to transcend the ego-personality, which is the entity that’s scared. If you transcend the ego and awaken as pure awareness, your fear of death will dissolve entirely.
I’ve had countless friends and family who’ve died. Some expectedly, some suddenly. It truly is a gnawing pain that never quiet goes away. I’ve had my own close call, but survived, scarred and with a new perspective. I my quiet moment, I talk to myself and to the universe. It helps, but it also scares the shit out of people
When you think about it, its strange to be afraid of not existing when you were nothing for all those billions of years before you came into existence. Wanting to stay alive is a human need, in this human experience, but death will be as empty, feeling-less, meaningless as before you even were born.
or you're in a simulation, the memories of your life before this one has been intentionally suspended for purpose of the game. you die and realize consciousness is fundamental and your life on earth was nothing more than a very persistent dream, with your avatar now gone the curtains come up to an audiene in applause.
@@dj007twk I hope, pray and wish you are right, but I doubt it. I think about it a little differently: You are just an instantiation of yourself in this particular universe. If you can exist in this universe at all, that means your existence is a probability, and given enough time, an inevitability. Who is to say, you won't exist again, in this universe, or another, without any of the memories of your previous existence? Nobody really knows, but it's fun to think about :)
It’s not the death part but rather the dying part that most fear. Death most certainly is not painless nor is it even remotely “fearlessness”. Not even close.
@@sarahalderman3126 Death can be painless and also unexpected.. those people that died in that sub implosion. That happened at like .01 seconds.. It was unexpected and people think happens faster than pain signals.
I know suffering, and I also know that I myself had a lot to do with the darkness I encountered. I was killed more by my imagination. It is/was too much. The spiritual experience is sometimes otherworldly, and those bitten by it are purely crafted into a figure they dwells on the borders of time and reality. It's like the more sense you make of it, the more insane we sound, and the smaller your circle becomes. We need a sanctuary for these people. For which I'm slowly building. Thanks for the content Lex ❤
I work in a nursing home and see people I know die pretty frequently. I've seen my Dad and brother die too, neighbors, and countless pets I had huge emotional attachment too. My mother is in her 80s and I have a very sick brother. The more death I see, the more relaxed I am about it. It's not quite getting numb, but more just accepting what an adult should learn to accept anyway -- that death is a certainty, and everything we are and know and love will be forgotten in extremely short order, not just on a cosmic scale either. Death isn't always painful or scary either. Quite often it's a mercy. Most of us don't march off to death in the very best of health, after all. Many are on literally dozens of medications to manage insurmountable problems, usually including pain if they have any problems at all. I've had a good few people tell me they wanted to go already. Death is not always so bad an outcome,. Perhaps the main suffering involves people you leave behind, their feelings, not what happens to you. You leave them without ... but you, you're done. You always knew you would be. That can be okay.
Listening to you and Dr MacDougall during all of these clips has been a wonderful experience for me. What a pair of truly intelligent people you both are.
This idea of Lex's that 'every single moment of life is beautiful' is also disingenuous. Life can, at times, be unbearable - and it is only the certainty that it will end, which sometimes gives relief. Many great philosophers and thinkers have also said this - life isn't a constant Walt Disney film, sometimes it's a full on Hieronymous Bosch nightmare. Usually, it's a bit of both...
Once in a while when thinking of death I somehow think in a way that my brain seems to realize the actual magnitude of death and not existing anymore and it's like a wave of fear and panic comes over me. I rarely get that feeling and not sure how I get there sometimes. I don't know if this is true but I heard somewhere that even though we know we're going to die, we don't actually believe it because if we actually believed it we would go crazy.
the more intelligent a person is, the more clearly he understands that there is no special value in his life, that he is just one of 8 billion very similar creatures, and that nothing will change at all with his death.
I disagree, every life has value even if it is brief. I believe we are here to experience the physical nature of existence and relationship to what we are not in order to express what we choose to be. This is God experiencing itself.
@@roseburn489every life is valued in what? And for what? There was a time none of us were here and there will be a time none of us will be here. So what value? Your idea comes from the ego latching on to this place, trying to consume all things it deems as "good"... The ego likes it, the ego doesn't get to take anything with it to the other side because the ego will die, and the ego doesn't like that, so that's why people are afraid to die, especially when they are living a wonderful life. Better to travel light, this is just a brief moment, like passing through a great city on a road trip.
@@roseburn489 that's a great question... fantastic question in fact, one I haven't thought much about. My answer is probably weird but here goes, I don't value my worldy self, I value my true self...my spiritual self, and I can't wait to get back to that, a way that is free of what I've carried through my life. I can't trust or value who I am on this earth, because I feel like I'm in this world not of it. Many of my reactions have been based from the flesh, I don't trust the flesh In this existence anymore, I feel like it has lied to me...like I've been tricked, and that disgusts me, decisions I've made etc based on the flesh, it bothers me. I don't feel like I belong here. I've had good experiences here, I've also had some really bad experiences... And I've come to realize that people don't really care, we are all just responding to what our brains like and don't like, the chemicals that rush into our systems that our brains release, is what makes us respond to life's stimuli, how can I trust that? We meet someone that our brains really like, brain shoots chemicals into our bodies over that person and we call that "love". Idk, it's all so fabricated to me...a calamity of a bunch of mashed up physical mechanisms that work off of each other to produce an "output" that we consider reality. I don't think this is it, and I don't trust it, I feel like it's actually a cage, I don't feel free. I honestly hate that if a person doesn't consume, they suffer, possibly even die...I call this place the "VLSTD" or "very large scale torture device"... That's what I feel like this place is. A huge torture game rolling through space destination unknown, we are just on here, out here... For what? IDK maybe it's a test, maybe it's to prepare us for what's next. Who knows. All I feel is that I've grown to really disdain it. Call it depression or whatever, I mean I'm not suicidal, just not enamored by this place anymore... I don't carry much of an ego either, so myself or who I am here, doesn't matter much to me.
No it's not. To live, is to suffer, but in the pain and misery comes the acceptance of triumph. Being close to death is universally amazing. Liberates the mind from its cage
It has never occurred to me until watching this video that people thought this way..... I've been a nurse in an emergency room for over 30 years and see death very frequently and I've just lived my life knowing it's coming for me too. Watching this video reminds me of how when I was young death wasn't always on my mind.
To me, the most important topic pf this discussion is when they talk about the suffering of people in their life. Life has a limited timespan. Why do people make this life time a bad time to others? Why are people dare to decide to take the life of others not only by murder but within automated and industrialized scales. All those wars when mentally ill people kill mostly civilians. We need societies where the existence of anyone is the highest good no matter what. No ancient rules like an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.
I wish I could remember the author but the jest of it an old wise man told him don't go out into the cold by yourself. Atarondac, maybe. He finds a dog that becomes his savior for a while. But once he accepts death peace falls upon him. The dog goes back to the village where he finds food and warmth.
I just hit a big milestone in age and I can confirm that the dread of aging only becomes worse… or it could just be my ADHD kicking in. Yes, losing my youth and dying is a scary thought, but I’m still glad to be alive and I look forward to the future and the surprises it brings.
Not afraid at all. Because my life isn't that great, i have a lot mental health problems, and will most likely have a lot of physical health problems the longer I'll be here. Only reason why anybody is afraid of death is because they've fed their ego plenty in life... the more you fill your ego with all these "beautiful" things in life, the more your ego will grasp on to this life, you're scared because your ego is scared, why? Because your ego and everything its filled up with is gonna die as soon as your spirit exits this place. You don't get to take any of this with you, so your beautiful family, your great job, your nice house, your vacations, and whatever else great things that your ego has consumed and attached to. People who live sht fvcked up lives aren't usually afraid of dying, because their ego in this existence is so weak...but that's better for them because they'll have a smooth transition to the other side, because there won't be as much to let go of, this is why I've come to the conclusion to not be sad for people who off themselves, people like that have emptied their ego sacks along the way and transition smoothly, because they don't want any of this anyways, assisted self offing should become a choice we can make in more places, instead of having to fight the ego for years and years trying to make a "better" less suffering life for themselves. Really what anybody is afraid of is letting go of everything their ego collected, and fear of the unknown...which the second one is ignorant, why would you fear something you don't know about? You want to prepare? You gotta let go of a lot of things, people who live fun, happy, and satisfying lives aren't gonna do that because the ego won't let them...life circumstance could take it away from a person and they'll feel terrible in this life but crossing over won't be so bad, so yeah you should be afraid to die because that stuff getting ripped from you forever is gonna be painful.
when i was an atheist and a kid, between 6 and 10 years old, i was so selfish and so angry at the universe for the fact that i was born and one day would cease to exist, that i was constantly wishing that when i die the world should also. messed up. i didnt want for life to go on without me. 🤮 i think we intuitively know that makes no sense for the universe to give us self-awereness only for us to lose it. God is real and we'll meet Him one day.
It helps if you consider the alternative. If a genie showed up and took away your ability to die, it would be horrifying. You’d never go away. It would never be over. You’d be the last person all alone. You’d be floating through space forever. It would eventually become a certain living hell.
"And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the Judgment," More than 2000 years ago a sacred book spoke about this reality, unfortunately mockers vehemently tried to disapprove it without any success.
It disproves itself. There is 0 evidence that anything in the Bible is true. You say people “try to disprove it,” but there’s nothing to disprove. It’s just words on a page. I could write a book saying anything I want. In 2000 years, should people say “this is true because it was written long ago and the author SAYS ITS SACRED AND TRUE!” No. Show me a single scrap of evidence that God is real and I’ll show you 16,000 children that die EVERY DAY. If God is real he sure loves poking us with a stick.
Why does one have to be insane to not fear death? You know, some people live really sht horrible ass lives, why would a person living like that fear death? Not everybody wants this sht... Life isn't beautiful and great for everybody. A person who doesn't fear death isn't insane.
I was dead before the universe made me alive. You never want to give up on this brief story, but death is also a part of life. We dont really know why any of this conscious existence exist, but it is much bigger and much greater than us.
@@elloello_erm And, all with some belief that what they experienced in an NDE (Near-Death Experience) was real and not something hallucinated from the dying brain.
Death is merely a gateway to another reality of consciousness. Our sadness lies in the fact that we fear that we may not return to this reality with the stories and love ones we have grown accustomed to. As Jesus told us, “Fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God; I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand."
I see life as a journey. At the end of it we return home, which is death. The idea of immortality just feels weird. There are so many achievable things to do. Why would you want something impossible? It's a trap.
Steve Jobs said once “Death is the best of life” and Elon said “Death is a relief” ,Ive asked to my self several times what means to me and didn’t find the answer so far (BTW I’m 71),so is a different concept for each of us difficult to understand, I believe.
It's not so bad. It just hurts for a little while. I've been there because of a physical problem, but I came back. To me, it was blackness and nothing was there. Thankfully, it's quick.
@@PoeLemicyou don't have a strong ego then. When the ego is strong, crossing over is a painful transition. As it gets destroyed and tries to latch on to everything the spirit is leaving behind.
I heard someone say once that humans existing is a 1 in 10 to the 2,685,000 power. That is a virtually impossible number to fathom, yet here we are. 200,000 years ago, there were eight kinds of sapiens alive on earth. Homo sapiens are the ones that have stood the test of time. Live in the moment, be grateful, and count yourself extremely lucky to even be on earth.
That dial? It’s your emotional state. It’s always in your influence. Harvard did a study with clinically depressed people (people depressed while they sleep!! 😅) They were placed in front of a mirror for 20 min. A day smiling ear to ear for 4 weeks. 100% remission of depression. They rewired their brain synapses to fit the forced physiology 💪 💫
There won't be. Asking for this is like asking for stars not to die. Stars die, but people are so damn full of themselves they think they deserve to live forever. Our sun is gonna turn into a red dwarf and burn the earth up eventually. There is no technology that's gonna stop that. Everything that has a beginning has an ending. Stop being afraid to die. You know what's worse than dying? Living a horrible and painful life. Everybody living even a decent life, decent mentally physically is afraid to go. People who live messed or miserable lives can't wait for this scene to be over...some do it themselves, some wait it out the inevitable. Death is beautiful... being born for billions of people has been like a curse. This sht aint a sweet experience for everybody and if you couldn't tell, it hasn't been for me. I don't want sympathy either, understand I'm not afraid to go because I've stopped allowing my ego to latch on to things in this place, I want to be traveling light upon my transition out of here. Be in this world not of it and you'll stop being afraid to die. This isn't our rest.
Lex isn't wrong regarding how many people quietly struggle with the terror of knowing they'll eventually die. Several people have bragged to me about how they're no afraid to die and I'm pretty sure they're going to be panicking when they realize they're about to die.
You come up against very primal survival instincts that exist within you outside of reason. Obviously people can override them, but it’s a real thing. Maybe because your brain stem is downstream from your frontal cortex, idk.
Some people really aren't though. Imagine someone who really doesn't have sht to live for, this place is like a prison to them... You really think a person like that is afraid to go? I get these weird heart palpitation things when I'm going off to sleep, I used to get scared of them and it would keep me up, like damn my heart might stop and I'll just die here in bed, how horrible. Well, eventually as life goes on, sht got worse and worse in my life, I started to realize... Fvck this place, it sucks, I try to make things better but stuff just falls flat, I'm getting older, no wife, no kids, no friends, no cool job, I have money but screw that money doesn't mean sht when you have nothing else in life going for you. Now, when I have those weird heart jumps, I don't even care... In fact sometimes I think "hopefully tonight is the night" with a smirk on my face... Because I don't care anymore, I fall asleep and wake up in the morning thinking "here we go again". I'm not gonna off myself, I'm gonna let it happen naturally, but I'm certainly not afraid to let this place go...there is nothing in this life that's filling my ego up. And that's the point, when your ego is strong, you should be afraid to die because you fed your ego with a bunch of sht it doesn't want to let go of, so when you transition it's gonna be painful as your ego gets empty and dies, letting your spirit go free but it'll be an painful experience.
Yes.....the infinite nothing forever of the abyss DOES receive every form of deflection and avoidance we can muster .... at the same time, we can see that every single aspect of our personalities live on in many others, continuously, albeit in ever-so-slightly varying mixes.....that only leaves the ego to die, and its an artificial barrier anyway.... we're already dead, essentially, but enjoying an amazing flick....that will.....flick....flick.....flicker.....out.... (time for Kungaphomonotookondololo to take a nap....then we do again....)
The most difficult thing but an essential one is to love life. To love life even while one suffers because, "Life is all, life is God. And to love life is to love God". Lev Nikolayevitch Tolstoy. We often have to sustain through sorrows or travails which nearly break us. But, we find we do survive, and if the Lord so wills, we come out much stronger and better as people after it than we had been before. 🎉
I think that people should just live a long life but not try to live forever. It everyone wants to live forever, then we will have no children because we will just have a massive older population. Life is better when there are children in the mix. Christ takes the sting out of death. I was okay before I was born and I will be fine after my body passes. Live full out while you are here and be in the moment. I was privileged to see several elderly ones pass before me and it was a blessing that makes me not afraid of it. Being afraid of death is a left brained thing. Now if finances are the problem and there are young children and no financial assistance or insurance for them, and they are left in a bad place, I can understand fearing to pass to early.
This is why alot of people believe in a God. They are so scared to face reality, when we die that is it for all eternity. We have actually all been dead before, it was before we were born...
Old people are almost always NOT scared. Young and middle aged people are. Biologically, mentally, spiritually, and psychologically death becomes much more acceptable as we age.
Your story dies, that's all. The life-force that you are is in everything and everywhere. The universe is experiencing itself through form, that's all. You are eternal and immortal. it's just that we see ourselves as a lonely separate entity in this universe, how far from the truth that thought really is.
That it ends, is the price we pay for life. It is the bargain we make to exist. I do not regret the cost. I celebrate and am grateful for every moment, including my last. I will live my final moments filled with love and gratitude to the universe for having had the opportunity to exist.
We’re all made up of the same energy and when our bodies die that energy transcends back to the original source (aka GOD). We never truly “die” we move into a different dimension. When I think about it that was it’s comforting. Every religion just has a different spin on the same basic concept. Love is the highest vibration (where God presides) so living and walking in love and making that the goal is the key. Every religion believes that. They just add rules and parameters to control groups of people. But it’s really REALLY simple and beautiful. No reason to fear ❤️✨
Fear is an evolutionary emotion to aid in your survival. There are reasons to fear and it serves a purpose. The only way you can get over fear of death is through dissociation and/or desensitisation (i.e; a person who has seen a lot of death due to war). Try to survive in the wilderness with your "no reason to fear" ideology. You will die. It's very obvious that fear evolved to ensure survival of the creature, no other reason. Humans are incredibly intelligent and when the wiring of the brain goes off, then negative emotions and scenarios will be generated by the brain. Dissociation is a common method that people suffering from mental illness use to cope with their condition. But it is nothing more than just dissociation, another process generated by the brain to prevent further trauma. Sure, we are all made up of the energy of the universe. You still need a brain and a body to experience reality in this way, and to be conscious. You won't be having a conscious experience as whatever creative energy you return to once you cease to exist. All in all this is not a very comforting belief to have, although it seems to be the most likely to be true. Your approach sugar coats it. It is not all sunshine and rainbows just because you go back to being energy. It's likely that whatever energy we're talking about is simply the recycled energy of the universe, and somehow it's capable of fragmenting itself in to different creatures which will all have a subjective experience of "reality". Rather than us having any direct influence over the cosmos at all. One day we're gone, another day we are back in "reality" with a different body, maybe as a different species, and a completely new brain. It would be something to look forward to if suffering were not so inherent with life. Human concepts do not exist to any other species. When we go, they go with us. Your species has to reach a certain point in the evolutionary threshold to develop such concepts in the first place, which requires you to come out on top as an apex predator species for as long as we have been at it, which requires mass suffering towards any lesser species until we eventually reached the point where our brains were capable of understanding what was going on in this "reality". Again, no sunshine and rainbows here. The strange thing about it all which could imply something behind the scenes controlling things, is the fact that evolution works for every species. Life wants to give us all a chance to succeed, humans just happened to come out on top this time, however evolution never stopped. That is at least a little hopeful.
Interesting that when I turned this discussion about accepting death between two atheists on I saw the number 666 immediately (likes). Then I saw the comment at the bottom. Its true, death is not the end ✝️
John 11:25-27 "I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me will live even if he dies, and everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die"
While these guys are respectable, they are avoiding the obvious conclusion of a Godless world view. That being that,if there is no God ,and we are all just time chance and matter, then there truly is no hope and nothing REALLY matters. These deep thinkers should take a look at the reality of the complexity of the earth and it's inhabitants and consider the one who created it .Because when you do,and enter into a faith based relationship with him,YOU WILL have real hope. Jesus said "my peace I give to you.Not as the world gives ". Consider CHRIST,He will save your soul,and give you hope and peace.
@@avengemybreath3084 death was a normal part of life and was important for evolution and natural selection to occur. Forcing animals into unnatural conditions, destroying biodiversity, killing them unnaturally wasn't normal and is unnatural and unethical and makes reincarnation dangerous and is selfish
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I contemplate this often. I love my mom so much I can’t fathom living without her to the point where I hope I go first. But that means she would have to live with a pain of not having me around and I don’t want her to feel that either. The only way around it is to live in the moment. Enjoy every moment that you can.❤
My dude, you need to get a girlfriend
@@brandonford8092Brandon, looks to me like the person who posted the above comment that you're responding to is a female, so you might perhaps consider editing your comment, unless I'm missing something 🤷♀️
Bro yeah. I love my mum to the same extent. Nothing eodipusal. Just pure love for my mum. Shes been though 40 years of being bullied by my dad. lol But life is this thing which is so precious. Shes out now and im so proud of her. Im not forcing her to anything. Best woman ever. But I dont worry about going before her. Perhaps coming at different angles in that respect. We now despite being on different sides of the planet adventure together as much as we can. The best thing is bro living life with her. Do it, bacardi and coke, do it.
@Kd ... Well, I'm on the "Other Side" of your worry now, and it is quite different without my mother still being in my life. Trust me. Enjoy every moment, because the time is so short.
Yes correct
Fear doesn't prevent death, fear prevents life !
You fear at a very young age in order to survive.
Easier said than done
I was never scared as a child ,My fear started as soon as I had kids
Thats a typical statement i see posted from people that are consumed by fear. Its all bullshit. The truth of everything is black ,the more insight you get the harder it becomes to stay alive.
I envy those who have fear and yet have the strength to overcome, for they are truly on a journey to discover who they really are
Watching my Sister accept her death from cancer has prepared me for what’s coming. See you soon Sis.
It is that simple if you break it down into its basics. We face one of two possibilities. One is that our consciousness does not exist beyond death. The second is that our consciousness does exist beyond death. If nothing exists beyond this reality then your consciousness won't realize it. If something does exist beyond this reality then it is just another adventure. Peace be with everyone.
Well that all depends on what reality exists, post death. If the religions of humanity were or are correct, than it will depend heavily upon how each person lived their life. Especially if we are all graded upon the Ten Commandments! Fairly certain the vast and overwhelming majority of people alive today aren’t going on an “adventure” anymore than being tortured for eternity would sound like an “adventure”.
@@sarahalderman3126 Again it all comes down to one of two options though. Either something does persist or it does not. All the rest involving God/religion/morality/karma/etc. comes after that binary event.
@@ThePuttercross true, but that is the case about literally everything. There are two choices or option’s in every situation in this universe.
@@sarahalderman3126 This is not a choice. It either is or it is not. Also, the double slit experiment demonstrates that two states can be present at one time so "every situation in this universe" is not binary.
@@ThePuttercross yes two states can exist at once, however that does not negate the fact that one was correct and the other incorrect. There either is or there is not, there is no third option. But yes you’re correct there is no “choice”, it is simply one or the other. So sure, it isn’t necessarily restricted to this universe, but rather this reality, of which the same option is then applied again. There either are or there is not.
I’m struggling with it. I can’t stop imagining the lack of imagination. It’s terrifying. It doesn’t go away. I can’t hide from it. I can’t numb it down by building a resistance and overthinking it. It just makes me want to stop what I’m doing at 3am and go hug the person I love, as if that’s the only cure.
Relatable.
Yup. That’s why I envy people who believe in supernatural stuff like God and afterlife. That must be soothing. But, unfortunately, it’s a self deception nonetheless.
@@nikitamcconnell8027feel the same way about it. Thats why I follow Buddhism instead because it is the only major religion that does not have a god. Instead, they believe that a little piece of “god” is within all living beings. “God” meaning the universe. And instead of lying to you about the afterlife, Buddhists believe instead that your journey is here and whatever happens after does not matter. You cannot control it, so why worry about it or try to convince yourself on something that is realistically unknown. Just do what you can to make peace with living beings while your on earth and just hope for the best for whatever comes afterward.
@@nikitamcconnell8027you are talking like you are the adult in the room that knows it all. You don’t know shit like the rest of us
@@The.fruiting.chamber it’s a good honest philosophy, I’ll look into that. Thank you!
As I get older I have come to realise that dying is honestly the last thing I'm ever going to do.
Even though i walk through the valley of the shadow of death, i shall fear no evil. For you are with me, your rod and staff, they comfort me.❤️
🙏 Amen❣ Invite God to walk along beside you, guiding your footsteps & actions. Then live without fear, knowing you are saved & can look forward to eternity with The One who has Saved you...
Never forget: Jesus died for you, and ALL of humanity who will be saved. Therefore, we have ETERNITY to look forward to, where we truly won't have to ever think about death‼️
Hallelujah, Thank You God for Your beautiful Plan of Salvation❣
What a beautiful GIFT💝
You can always count on Christians to spam any spiritual video.
Anyone can quote the Bible
Here's a few things I've come to understand about myself and death:
Firstly, there is NOTHING you can sacrifice, offering, or rationale to death, that will satisfy it. If your rationale is "I'm only 25", well one day you wake up and you're 35 and then what? Are you gonna say "well at least I am not 45"? Are you going to stop drinking, eat healthily, etc to distance yourself from it? Fine, but it IS gonna close on you nevertheless.
Secondly, the thought of death as "you" becoming "nothing", like void from the set of consciousnesses, is a story I tell myself. In reality, I don't know what death means, what comes after, and what doesn't. The fear of death then becomes a fear of uncertainty, but I find it much easier (in the good way) to be afraid of uncertainty than afraid of certain nothingness, in my opinion.
Thirdly, given that I don't know what death even entails for me, that there's uncertainty, you are not at fault for believing in something you find meaningful. So, if you want to believe that you will arrive at Saint Peter's Gate, it's not so unreasonable as some may make it sound like. Those that claim this is all a coping mechanism may misunderstand, because this belief is made upon the realization of the lack of knowledge of what death means, not what death does mean.
And beyond anything, if you continue to throw the fear of death your excuses to ignore it, you will not find salvation. It is a place where appreciation of life goes to die before life can even end. It is the very definition of irrational, but yet something one must struggle with. But granted that life is finite, what point is there to letting inevitable death define your mood and outlook? There is none. The fear of death is not rational.
Great points
What about fear of dying?
@@Redflowers9 The process of dying itself? We're all dying right now, but I suppose you mean a state of rapid decline towards death. But what does that look like? Gradual breakdown of bodily functions due to cancer? Disease? Being eaten alive by a lion? Burning alive? Or falling asleep like normal and just not waking up?
There's uncertainty again, in what dying actually is. Will it be unpleasant? Maybe, but be fearful of it? Sure, dying from being burned alive sounds awful, but there's no reason to let that paralyze you. If it does, maybe it's actually because you're doing something stupid that puts you at a high risk of dying in a way you fear, but if you're not doing that, then why?
Fear like that is irrational. The possibilities of meeting an uncomfortable end are practically limitless, but instead of letting that rule your mind with fear, why not just see if you're doing what you can with your own abilities to try to avoid the ways to die you don't want to have to go through? At least then you can tell yourself that you're doing your part, which should put the mind at ease.
I don’t think “wanting” to believe something is intellectually honest. I agree with most of your comment but we don’t choose beliefs. As awesome as Christian heaven sounds (at least for a few thousand years) I can’t force myself to believe that it’s real.
@@donharris8846 It's not about "wanting" (badly phrased on my part) to believe, but deciding on something that makes sense to you. I only raise this point because I realized I was constrained by something I told myself to be true, but that I ultimately don't have any proof of, and I can reassess and think about it more critically.
For many, "nothing" is the answer they go with. But for me "nothing" doesn't really make sense, because it seems to be a contradictory term, so I decided "not nothing" made more sense for now, which still leaves a lot to be desired, but at least it's something.
Overthinking about our mortality is a time wasting never ending effort.
It tends to get better with age I’ve noticed.
I’m struggling with it. I can’t stop imagining the lack of imagination. It’s terrifying. It doesn’t go away. I can’t hide from it. I can’t numb it down by building a resistance and overthinking it. It just makes me want to stop what I’m doing at 3am and go hug the person I love, as if that’s the only cure.
@@itsSoaren In my experience not running away from the terrifying nature of the thoughts solved the situation.
It's uncomfortable and scary, that being said though we can't control mortality, we can control how it affects us.
@@azt3ca it feels like most people merely aren’t perceptive enough to relate, even scrolling through the comments I can’t help but feel further away from others than closer. Feels like we’re just lambs for the slaughter.
I genuinely appreciate your response, it was more than I could have asked for. What makes it even more difficult is loved ones. It’s hard enough thinking about these concepts as they pertain to ourselves, but when you have people that you love even more than your own conscientious.. it gets even more frightening.
Around when did you “outgrow” these fears? Or were you never scared at all?
Yo aun no he podido llegar a una solución al dolor del sentido de morir, me pasa exactamente lo mismo que a ti. Me ayuda mucho dejar absolutamente todo de mi, toda mi energía durante el dia, siento que exactamente como la ansiedad, el miedo a la muerte me ayuda a poder valorar mucho mas el tiempo que la vida me dio para estar consciente @@itsSoaren
@@francisco_ponce Dicen que un hombre tiene dos vidas, la primera vida la vive y la desperdicia, y la segunda vida en la que se da cuenta de que solo tiene una vida.
Some nights I will wake up out of nowhere and physically get up out and walk around my bedroom breathing deeply (almost hyperventilating) saying “Holy shit, oh my god.” at the thought of one day simply NOT EXISTING. The scariest part is that it’s inevitable. Not “holy shit, omg I lost money in the stock market.” but holy crap I WILL BE DEAD. Weird thought. Then I lay back down and slowly breathe till I fall back asleep. Those are some of my most terrifying moments and they come out of nowhere. Lil anxiety attacks
The human condition. This terror connects you w every self aware being in the cosmos. Try meditation to transcend the ego-personality, which is the entity that’s scared. If you transcend the ego and awaken as pure awareness, your fear of death will dissolve entirely.
"got to suffer a little .. just not so much that you lose hope" too much suffering.. let there be some hope.
Yep. It overloads the system.
I’ve had countless friends and family who’ve died. Some expectedly, some suddenly. It truly is a gnawing pain that never quiet goes away. I’ve had my own close call, but survived, scarred and with a new perspective. I my quiet moment, I talk to myself and to the universe. It helps, but it also scares the shit out of people
When you think about it, its strange to be afraid of not existing when you were nothing for all those billions of years before you came into existence. Wanting to stay alive is a human need, in this human experience, but death will be as empty, feeling-less, meaningless as before you even were born.
You have to show up to the party in order to not want to leave it.
or you're in a simulation, the memories of your life before this one has been intentionally suspended for purpose of the game. you die and realize consciousness is fundamental and your life on earth was nothing more than a very persistent dream, with your avatar now gone the curtains come up to an audiene in applause.
@@dj007twk I hope, pray and wish you are right, but I doubt it. I think about it a little differently: You are just an instantiation of yourself in this particular universe. If you can exist in this universe at all, that means your existence is a probability, and given enough time, an inevitability. Who is to say, you won't exist again, in this universe, or another, without any of the memories of your previous existence? Nobody really knows, but it's fun to think about :)
It’s not the death part but rather the dying part that most fear. Death most certainly is not painless nor is it even remotely “fearlessness”. Not even close.
@@sarahalderman3126 Death can be painless and also unexpected.. those people that died in that sub implosion. That happened at like .01 seconds.. It was unexpected and people think happens faster than pain signals.
I know suffering, and I also know that I myself had a lot to do with the darkness I encountered.
I was killed more by my imagination. It is/was too much.
The spiritual experience is sometimes otherworldly, and those bitten by it are purely crafted into a figure they dwells on the borders of time and reality.
It's like the more sense you make of it, the more insane we sound, and the smaller your circle becomes.
We need a sanctuary for these people. For which I'm slowly building.
Thanks for the content Lex ❤
Refreshing to hear a surgeon speak who isn’t a jerk or a psycho.
Who are you hanging around with?
I work in a nursing home and see people I know die pretty frequently. I've seen my Dad and brother die too, neighbors, and countless pets I had huge emotional attachment too. My mother is in her 80s and I have a very sick brother. The more death I see, the more relaxed I am about it. It's not quite getting numb, but more just accepting what an adult should learn to accept anyway -- that death is a certainty, and everything we are and know and love will be forgotten in extremely short order, not just on a cosmic scale either. Death isn't always painful or scary either. Quite often it's a mercy. Most of us don't march off to death in the very best of health, after all. Many are on literally dozens of medications to manage insurmountable problems, usually including pain if they have any problems at all. I've had a good few people tell me they wanted to go already. Death is not always so bad an outcome,. Perhaps the main suffering involves people you leave behind, their feelings, not what happens to you. You leave them without ... but you, you're done. You always knew you would be.
That can be okay.
Listening to you and Dr MacDougall during all of these clips has been a wonderful experience for me. What a pair of truly intelligent people you both are.
You should start interviewing people who've had NDEs.
Definitely!
There's already enough of those on RUclips. This is more up Joe Rogan's alleuy
Maybe a researcher or graduate student who has studied NDE’s would be more apt.
I love you Lex. You don’t talk about petty things. ❤
This idea of Lex's that 'every single moment of life is beautiful' is also disingenuous. Life can, at times, be unbearable - and it is only the certainty that it will end, which sometimes gives relief. Many great philosophers and thinkers have also said this - life isn't a constant Walt Disney film, sometimes it's a full on Hieronymous Bosch nightmare. Usually, it's a bit of both...
Once in a while when thinking of death I somehow think in a way that my brain seems to realize the actual magnitude of death and not existing anymore and it's like a wave of fear and panic comes over me. I rarely get that feeling and not sure how I get there sometimes. I don't know if this is true but I heard somewhere that even though we know we're going to die, we don't actually believe it because if we actually believed it we would go crazy.
the more intelligent a person is, the more clearly he understands that there is no special value in his life, that he is just one of 8 billion very similar creatures, and that nothing will change at all with his death.
I disagree, every life has value even if it is brief. I believe we are here to experience the physical nature of existence and relationship to what we are not in order to express what we choose to be. This is God experiencing itself.
@@roseburn489every life is valued in what? And for what? There was a time none of us were here and there will be a time none of us will be here. So what value? Your idea comes from the ego latching on to this place, trying to consume all things it deems as "good"... The ego likes it, the ego doesn't get to take anything with it to the other side because the ego will die, and the ego doesn't like that, so that's why people are afraid to die, especially when they are living a wonderful life. Better to travel light, this is just a brief moment, like passing through a great city on a road trip.
@@Siegefya Do you not value yourself and your experiences? I guess that depends on who or what you think you truly are.
@@roseburn489 that's a great question... fantastic question in fact, one I haven't thought much about.
My answer is probably weird but here goes, I don't value my worldy self, I value my true self...my spiritual self, and I can't wait to get back to that, a way that is free of what I've carried through my life. I can't trust or value who I am on this earth, because I feel like I'm in this world not of it. Many of my reactions have been based from the flesh, I don't trust the flesh In this existence anymore, I feel like it has lied to me...like I've been tricked, and that disgusts me, decisions I've made etc based on the flesh, it bothers me.
I don't feel like I belong here. I've had good experiences here, I've also had some really bad experiences... And I've come to realize that people don't really care, we are all just responding to what our brains like and don't like, the chemicals that rush into our systems that our brains release, is what makes us respond to life's stimuli, how can I trust that? We meet someone that our brains really like, brain shoots chemicals into our bodies over that person and we call that "love". Idk, it's all so fabricated to me...a calamity of a bunch of mashed up physical mechanisms that work off of each other to produce an "output" that we consider reality. I don't think this is it, and I don't trust it, I feel like it's actually a cage, I don't feel free.
I honestly hate that if a person doesn't consume, they suffer, possibly even die...I call this place the "VLSTD" or "very large scale torture device"... That's what I feel like this place is. A huge torture game rolling through space destination unknown, we are just on here, out here... For what? IDK maybe it's a test, maybe it's to prepare us for what's next. Who knows. All I feel is that I've grown to really disdain it. Call it depression or whatever, I mean I'm not suicidal, just not enamored by this place anymore... I don't carry much of an ego either, so myself or who I am here, doesn't matter much to me.
I live in the hood, so what is my values beside just being a crack dealer?
Even as a Christian, I deeply question the actual existence of the afterlife and that's heartbreaking.
No it's not. To live, is to suffer, but in the pain and misery comes the acceptance of triumph. Being close to death is universally amazing. Liberates the mind from its cage
I completely understand why you'd question as a Christian.
What a spectacular clip
It has never occurred to me until watching this video that people thought this way..... I've been a nurse in an emergency room for over 30 years and see death very frequently and I've just lived my life knowing it's coming for me too. Watching this video reminds me of how when I was young death wasn't always on my mind.
At some point in time the ego became convinced that there was more to the self than an identity generated from thought. How can an idea hurt an idea?
To me, the most important topic pf this discussion is when they talk about the suffering of people in their life. Life has a limited timespan. Why do people make this life time a bad time to others? Why are people dare to decide to take the life of others not only by murder but within automated and industrialized scales. All those wars when mentally ill people kill mostly civilians. We need societies where the existence of anyone is the highest good no matter what. No ancient rules like an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.
Lex are u still finding time to practice? I’m a prof musician and enjoy hearing you- it’s another layer of you, the podcast is wonderful
I wish I could remember the author but the jest of it an old wise man told him don't go out into the cold by yourself. Atarondac, maybe. He finds a dog that becomes his savior for a while. But once he accepts death peace falls upon him. The dog goes back to the village where he finds food and warmth.
Yes Lex every moment of our lifes are beautiful .... The real truth is that every moment is dark and you get the illusion of light here and there.
I just hit a big milestone in age and I can confirm that the dread of aging only becomes worse… or it could just be my ADHD kicking in. Yes, losing my youth and dying is a scary thought, but I’m still glad to be alive and I look forward to the future and the surprises it brings.
Live fully in the present moment with gratitude. Life is fragile.
How fine is the line between suffering "to get the job done" in which we "flip" to flipping beyond the point of no return?
Not afraid at all. Because my life isn't that great, i have a lot mental health problems, and will most likely have a lot of physical health problems the longer I'll be here. Only reason why anybody is afraid of death is because they've fed their ego plenty in life... the more you fill your ego with all these "beautiful" things in life, the more your ego will grasp on to this life, you're scared because your ego is scared, why? Because your ego and everything its filled up with is gonna die as soon as your spirit exits this place. You don't get to take any of this with you, so your beautiful family, your great job, your nice house, your vacations, and whatever else great things that your ego has consumed and attached to. People who live sht fvcked up lives aren't usually afraid of dying, because their ego in this existence is so weak...but that's better for them because they'll have a smooth transition to the other side, because there won't be as much to let go of, this is why I've come to the conclusion to not be sad for people who off themselves, people like that have emptied their ego sacks along the way and transition smoothly, because they don't want any of this anyways, assisted self offing should become a choice we can make in more places, instead of having to fight the ego for years and years trying to make a "better" less suffering life for themselves. Really what anybody is afraid of is letting go of everything their ego collected, and fear of the unknown...which the second one is ignorant, why would you fear something you don't know about? You want to prepare? You gotta let go of a lot of things, people who live fun, happy, and satisfying lives aren't gonna do that because the ego won't let them...life circumstance could take it away from a person and they'll feel terrible in this life but crossing over won't be so bad, so yeah you should be afraid to die because that stuff getting ripped from you forever is gonna be painful.
when i was an atheist and a kid, between 6 and 10 years old, i was so selfish and so angry at the universe for the fact that i was born and one day would cease to exist, that i was constantly wishing that when i die the world should also. messed up. i didnt want for life to go on without me. 🤮
i think we intuitively know that makes no sense for the universe to give us self-awereness only for us to lose it. God is real and we'll meet Him one day.
Each day is a gift 🎉
It helps if you consider the alternative. If a genie showed up and took away your ability to die, it would be horrifying. You’d never go away. It would never be over. You’d be the last person all alone. You’d be floating through space forever. It would eventually become a certain living hell.
"And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the Judgment," More than 2000 years ago a sacred book spoke about this reality, unfortunately mockers vehemently tried to disapprove it without any success.
It disproves itself. There is 0 evidence that anything in the Bible is true. You say people “try to disprove it,” but there’s nothing to disprove. It’s just words on a page. I could write a book saying anything I want. In 2000 years, should people say “this is true because it was written long ago and the author SAYS ITS SACRED AND TRUE!” No. Show me a single scrap of evidence that God is real and I’ll show you 16,000 children that die EVERY DAY. If God is real he sure loves poking us with a stick.
Finally an honest discussion. No sane person doesn’t fear the prospect of dying.
Why does one have to be insane to not fear death? You know, some people live really sht horrible ass lives, why would a person living like that fear death? Not everybody wants this sht... Life isn't beautiful and great for everybody. A person who doesn't fear death isn't insane.
@@Siegefyait’s a completely natural thing to fear that’s hardwired into our biology. It’s part of what makes us uniquely human.
I was dead before the universe made me alive. You never want to give up on this brief story, but death is also a part of life. We dont really know why any of this conscious existence exist, but it is much bigger and much greater than us.
well hes a breath of fresh air
Death does not concern us, because as long as we exist, death is not here. And when it does come, we no longer exist. - Epicurus
Our consciousness does exit after death.
Death is not the end, it’s the beginning of a new journey
calm down. its just reincarnation into a life into a factory farmed chicken.
No one knows what's after death.
@@manwiththeredface7821 but we can see what's likely to happen after death. People have died and came back to life
@@infiniteworfare5089 all with conflicting views
@@elloello_erm And, all with some belief that what they experienced in an NDE (Near-Death Experience) was real and not something hallucinated from the dying brain.
Death is merely a gateway to another reality of consciousness. Our sadness lies in the fact that we fear that we may not return to this reality with the stories and love ones we have grown accustomed to. As Jesus told us, “Fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God; I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand."
You sure about that
That’s an awesome self deception. I wish I could fall for that comforting fable.
When was that exactly told to you? Just another indoctrination
What makes the film “Life is Beautiful” so, well, beautiful.
death is not the end, folks. we're not our bodies. Praise LORD Jesus.
Jesus offered eternal life all you have to do is trust Him… I use to struggle with this but now I don’t fear death but God
What you are describing is an illusion, a myth. If you truly believe it, it can reduce suffering. But you must lie to yourself to believe it.
Jesus is human
@@Sleepwalker507 I thought Jesus was god on earth.
Like Christopher Hitchens stated, people hate the fact that the party will go on without you.
I see life as a journey. At the end of it we return home, which is death.
The idea of immortality just feels weird. There are so many achievable things to do. Why would you want something impossible? It's a trap.
Steve Jobs said once “Death is the best of life” and Elon said “Death is a relief” ,Ive asked to my self several times what means to me and didn’t find the answer so far (BTW I’m 71),so is a different concept for each of us difficult to understand, I believe.
The worst part of death is dying. No matter how deep u try 2 get, its scary think n bout it but i bet i got u beat imma nightmare b4 i get to sleep...
It's not so bad. It just hurts for a little while. I've been there because of a physical problem, but I came back. To me, it was blackness and nothing was there. Thankfully, it's quick.
@@PoeLemicyou don't have a strong ego then. When the ego is strong, crossing over is a painful transition. As it gets destroyed and tries to latch on to everything the spirit is leaving behind.
I heard someone say once that humans existing is a 1 in 10 to the 2,685,000 power. That is a virtually impossible number to fathom, yet here we are. 200,000 years ago, there were eight kinds of sapiens alive on earth. Homo sapiens are the ones that have stood the test of time. Live in the moment, be grateful, and count yourself extremely lucky to even be on earth.
The question to ask is where are we now!
That dial? It’s your emotional state. It’s always in your influence. Harvard did a study with clinically depressed people (people depressed while they sleep!! 😅)
They were placed in front of a mirror for 20 min. A day smiling ear to ear for 4 weeks.
100% remission of depression. They rewired their brain synapses to fit the forced physiology 💪 💫
Whenever I’m anxious about death… I contemplate living forever. Then I stop fearing death.
I often say to myself that before I was born I wasn’t panicked that I wasn’t alive. I assume death will be the same thing.
Immortality when.. 😢
I hope that it is so soon, but I fear (like the good Doc here said) that our generation won't be able to see it.
Impossible, obviously
2045
when AI will become godlike and leave us as a museum here on earth
There won't be. Asking for this is like asking for stars not to die. Stars die, but people are so damn full of themselves they think they deserve to live forever. Our sun is gonna turn into a red dwarf and burn the earth up eventually. There is no technology that's gonna stop that. Everything that has a beginning has an ending. Stop being afraid to die. You know what's worse than dying? Living a horrible and painful life. Everybody living even a decent life, decent mentally physically is afraid to go. People who live messed or miserable lives can't wait for this scene to be over...some do it themselves, some wait it out the inevitable. Death is beautiful... being born for billions of people has been like a curse. This sht aint a sweet experience for everybody and if you couldn't tell, it hasn't been for me. I don't want sympathy either, understand I'm not afraid to go because I've stopped allowing my ego to latch on to things in this place, I want to be traveling light upon my transition out of here. Be in this world not of it and you'll stop being afraid to die. This isn't our rest.
It's literally a fact of life
Let the fact tear up your ego
Like everything succumbs to entropy, so don't be a p***y about it
Lex isn't wrong regarding how many people quietly struggle with the terror of knowing they'll eventually die.
Several people have bragged to me about how they're no afraid to die and I'm pretty sure they're going to be panicking when they realize they're about to die.
You come up against very primal survival instincts that exist within you outside of reason. Obviously people can override them, but it’s a real thing. Maybe because your brain stem is downstream from your frontal cortex, idk.
Some people really aren't though. Imagine someone who really doesn't have sht to live for, this place is like a prison to them... You really think a person like that is afraid to go? I get these weird heart palpitation things when I'm going off to sleep, I used to get scared of them and it would keep me up, like damn my heart might stop and I'll just die here in bed, how horrible. Well, eventually as life goes on, sht got worse and worse in my life, I started to realize... Fvck this place, it sucks, I try to make things better but stuff just falls flat, I'm getting older, no wife, no kids, no friends, no cool job, I have money but screw that money doesn't mean sht when you have nothing else in life going for you. Now, when I have those weird heart jumps, I don't even care... In fact sometimes I think "hopefully tonight is the night" with a smirk on my face... Because I don't care anymore, I fall asleep and wake up in the morning thinking "here we go again". I'm not gonna off myself, I'm gonna let it happen naturally, but I'm certainly not afraid to let this place go...there is nothing in this life that's filling my ego up. And that's the point, when your ego is strong, you should be afraid to die because you fed your ego with a bunch of sht it doesn't want to let go of, so when you transition it's gonna be painful as your ego gets empty and dies, letting your spirit go free but it'll be an painful experience.
Life is the ride, Death is the Bill.
Yes.....the infinite nothing forever of the abyss DOES receive every form of deflection and avoidance we can muster .... at the same time, we can see that every single aspect of our personalities live on in many others, continuously, albeit in ever-so-slightly varying mixes.....that only leaves the ego to die, and its an artificial barrier anyway.... we're already dead, essentially, but enjoying an amazing flick....that will.....flick....flick.....flicker.....out.... (time for Kungaphomonotookondololo to take a nap....then we do again....)
I believe there is more. Accepting the possibility of a creator is no more profound than accepting RNA emerging from non living matter
The most difficult thing but an essential one is to love life. To love life even while one suffers because, "Life is all, life is God. And to love life is to love God". Lev Nikolayevitch Tolstoy.
We often have to sustain through sorrows or travails which nearly break us. But, we find we do survive, and if the Lord so wills, we come out much stronger and better as people after it than we had been before.
🎉
What about the guy Bryan Jonson trying to defy it
I think that people should just live a long life but not try to live forever. It everyone wants to live forever, then we will have no children because we will just have a massive older population. Life is better when there are children in the mix. Christ takes the sting out of death. I was okay before I was born and I will be fine after my body passes. Live full out while you are here and be in the moment. I was privileged to see several elderly ones pass before me and it was a blessing that makes me not afraid of it. Being afraid of death is a left brained thing. Now if finances are the problem and there are young children and no financial assistance or insurance for them, and they are left in a bad place, I can understand fearing to pass to early.
Beautiful post. 100% if we want to live forever, we put all the effort into our kids. This is all we have to leave behind. The greatest legacy.
Governments are getting too old and out of touch, imagine being ruled forever by the same useless mummies
This is why alot of people believe in a God. They are so scared to face reality, when we die that is it for all eternity. We have actually all been dead before, it was before we were born...
May be our conscious essence get recycled some how ,
whether someone accepts death or not.Death is the only certainty in life.
GET BRYAN JOHNSON ON THE PODCAST
Youuuu shook me alllll night longggg
Old people are almost always NOT scared. Young and middle aged people are. Biologically, mentally, spiritually, and psychologically death becomes much more acceptable as we age.
Terrified of death. Shout out to everyone else scared!! We really in this bish!!
Your story dies, that's all. The life-force that you are is in everything and everywhere. The universe is experiencing itself through form, that's all. You are eternal and immortal. it's just that we see ourselves as a lonely separate entity in this universe, how far from the truth that thought really is.
That it ends, is the price we pay for life. It is the bargain we make to exist. I do not regret the cost. I celebrate and am grateful for every moment, including my last. I will live my final moments filled with love and gratitude to the universe for having had the opportunity to exist.
Eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow…..
We’re all made up of the same energy and when our bodies die that energy transcends back to the original source (aka GOD). We never truly “die” we move into a different dimension. When I think about it that was it’s comforting. Every religion just has a different spin on the same basic concept. Love is the highest vibration (where God presides) so living and walking in love and making that the goal is the key. Every religion believes that. They just add rules and parameters to control groups of people. But it’s really REALLY simple and beautiful. No reason to fear ❤️✨
Fear is an evolutionary emotion to aid in your survival. There are reasons to fear and it serves a purpose. The only way you can get over fear of death is through dissociation and/or desensitisation (i.e; a person who has seen a lot of death due to war).
Try to survive in the wilderness with your "no reason to fear" ideology. You will die. It's very obvious that fear evolved to ensure survival of the creature, no other reason. Humans are incredibly intelligent and when the wiring of the brain goes off, then negative emotions and scenarios will be generated by the brain. Dissociation is a common method that people suffering from mental illness use to cope with their condition. But it is nothing more than just dissociation, another process generated by the brain to prevent further trauma.
Sure, we are all made up of the energy of the universe. You still need a brain and a body to experience reality in this way, and to be conscious. You won't be having a conscious experience as whatever creative energy you return to once you cease to exist. All in all this is not a very comforting belief to have, although it seems to be the most likely to be true. Your approach sugar coats it. It is not all sunshine and rainbows just because you go back to being energy.
It's likely that whatever energy we're talking about is simply the recycled energy of the universe, and somehow it's capable of fragmenting itself in to different creatures which will all have a subjective experience of "reality". Rather than us having any direct influence over the cosmos at all. One day we're gone, another day we are back in "reality" with a different body, maybe as a different species, and a completely new brain.
It would be something to look forward to if suffering were not so inherent with life. Human concepts do not exist to any other species. When we go, they go with us. Your species has to reach a certain point in the evolutionary threshold to develop such concepts in the first place, which requires you to come out on top as an apex predator species for as long as we have been at it, which requires mass suffering towards any lesser species until we eventually reached the point where our brains were capable of understanding what was going on in this "reality".
Again, no sunshine and rainbows here. The strange thing about it all which could imply something behind the scenes controlling things, is the fact that evolution works for every species. Life wants to give us all a chance to succeed, humans just happened to come out on top this time, however evolution never stopped. That is at least a little hopeful.
1 Corinthians 15:26
…And the last enemy, death, is to be brought to nothing…
Valhalla exists for a reason.
The only definite thing in life
120 years from now this planet will have an entire new human population. Think about that… no one living now will be here… that is the genius of life…
Et in Arcadia ego. Even in the perfect city, there I am, death.
Love ya gangster
Interesting that when I turned this discussion about accepting death between two atheists on I saw the number 666 immediately (likes). Then I saw the comment at the bottom. Its true, death is not the end ✝️
That was brilliantly poignant.
Do you realize that everyone you know, someday, will die.
John 11:25-27 "I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me will live even if he dies, and everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die"
People quote this all the time and have no idea what it means. I pray that you do know.
@@UriyahRecords yall both are delusional
@@infiniteworfare5089 we know who has no idea what it means for sure.
@@UriyahRecords god isnt real. this is common sense.
@@UriyahRecords once saved always saved?
I'm terrible at math but I know 10 out of 10 people die.
I hate when ppl talk too much
5meoDMT removed my fear of death completely
While these guys are respectable, they are avoiding the obvious conclusion of a Godless world view. That being that,if there is no God ,and we are all just time chance and matter, then there truly is no hope and nothing REALLY matters. These deep thinkers should take a look at the reality of the complexity of the earth and it's inhabitants and consider the one who created it .Because when you do,and enter into a faith based relationship with him,YOU WILL have real hope. Jesus said "my peace I give to you.Not as the world gives ".
Consider CHRIST,He will save your soul,and give you hope and peace.
We will download our consciousness and live forever. Just be patient don’t become too absolute on death.
Shallow conversation on an endlessly deep matter. Shame.
When we die if you are good you continue to the next place. If you are bad you get deleted
death was a normal part of life. domesticating animals and abusing them wasnt.
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@@avengemybreath3084 death was a normal part of life and was important for evolution and natural selection to occur. Forcing animals into unnatural conditions, destroying biodiversity, killing them unnaturally wasn't normal and is unnatural and unethical and makes reincarnation dangerous and is selfish
@@infiniteworfare5089 ok sure.