Burton step on Review Surprisingly Amazing?!?!?!?
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- Опубликовано: 27 окт 2021
- I've seen Burton step on bindings everywhere when I snowboard and I finally got a chance to check them out. This video is my honest thoughts and this video is NOT sponsored by Burton so all opinions are 100% mine.
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I’ve been using them for work.
Checking snowmaking guns was a pain in the butt having to strap in and out every 50-100 feet.
Now a full gun run is a breeze.
Bigger revolution for skiers with snowboarding friends than snowboards them selves))
Yooo
That might be why I get them
If these had been around when I was growing up in a skier family… They’d all have hated snowboards so much less 😂
@@HunterHughes10 step in bindings have been around since the early 90s
@@3Bud yes, but THESE have not. I tried those, they were shit.
Used step-ons all last season and loved them so much I can't see myself going back to traditional bindings.
I bought the 2.0 bindings this season and they're a huge upgrade. No clicking, but also significantly easier to get in and out of.
LOVE the step ons! Had them for two seasons and the convenience is just worth every penny. Gone are the days where the skiiers mock us snowboarders for taking too long to get on the run
(Disclaimer: this is my opinion and I'm just a "casual") This feels like its perfect product for someone who is snowboarding for a while or someone who has troubles bending (and it's not just about belly - if you have a sore/stiff back or ribs this will put you back in a game). After 30 years of doing buckles it gets really old even on autopilot and you start thinking towards the top of the chair lift "it's nice just to step on and go". If you are coaching people this is probably the best investment - you'll have more time to focus on the person rather than your bindings. last season I was helping my 3 kids and wife to transition from skis to snowboad and this made it so much easier. It feels bit different when riding to start with but after day I got used to it and now I don't even think about it. I just step on and go. Spins and buttering are feeling tiny bit different but I feel like I have more control and buttering is easier. I haven't tried jumps but I have "tried" some hard crashes and the board doesn't go anywhere.
I’ve had the Step Ons for 3 seasons and I have no complaints. Very responsive
How's the board feel. I hear it's not as not as damp as regular binding
@@bukchoiii I do think that the Mine77 EST version of the binding does have better board feel and dampening than a standard step on since it uses the Burton channel system. I have a set of both step on bindings. Honestly I have a hard time remembering what traditional bindings feel like now bro
Bruh when u went “neeeeeeyooooowwwwwww” across the run I was dying cuz I do the same
I consider myself medium level park/all mountain rider. I've used step on for the past season, while the convenience factor was what drew me to it, what I like the most about it after using a season is actually the response and consistency, and overall how it feels on snow.
Just like how people buy an EV to save on fuel but stay for its instant torque.
I love the step-ons. More consistent, faster to put on and fun to ride and it made my season really enjoyable (over here in NZ we had the best and longest winter since last year - 2 extra months of snowboarding and big dumps of snow) . Step-ons are staying for sure - Unlike EVils which are overpriced junk that's slow to drive, slow to charge and toxic waste when it's made, when it breaks and when you have to toss it into garbage where it belongs.
I am looking to purchase some for my son. He will carve and do a little park some. Im wondering which stiffness in both boot and binding would be best for him. Hes only worn rentals in the past so im sure all the step ons will be much stiffer than whats hes used to.
that’s a really good analogy
Coincidence, just ordered my 4th EV and finishing up first season on Step ons. Function great but my toe clip snapped off. They must be working on that now. Way to brittle plastic for that flex/retention purpose.
Yez. Whores came for a blowjob but stayed for the conversation, as well.
Tommie this has to be the best Burton Step on video out there. Love the live feedback and emotions whilst riding. Fantastic effort. The only thing I didn't like was the colour of the white bindings/boots.
Tommie B pushing the review to the next level! Voiceover while riding! I like it!
Used Step Ons for 2 seasons now, the edge to edge responsiveness is addicting and makes carving feel natural. Once you get used to them you can ride off a lift and step on while going off seamlessly, skipping the classic snowboarder binding sit. But for me the insane edge to edge feel means regular binding are out of the question for me now, when it comes to riding park I think traditional bindings have Step On beat, but for piste and even perhaps pow Step On is the way to go. Also a little wax/grease gets rid of the clicking.
The classic snowboarder sit should realistically be gone by the 2nd season anyway. Honestly if you just spend a whole day working on not sitting, you can get it done.
@@kushklimatik for which you need quality bindings. I've got low quality cheap bindings, and am looking to upgrade, because they're uncomfortable, and all over the place, and too rubbery, so hard to reach. Also, I've already lost my toe strap twice, once in the middle of riding, and I can tell you, the scorpion if you're on a CAT is not nice. So, figuring out the right bindings is key!
@@DorotaGabal ehh I’ve used all sorts of low quality to high quality bindings and while it certainly was more annoying with low quality bindings (e.x: tongue taking longer to fit into the buckle due to old crappy buckle), it was still doable. Once you get comfortable and know how to squat-lean/standing to strap on then penguin walking out, you should be fine. Every once in a while I’ll sit and strap but that’s generally pretty rare. Even when it’s icy and hard to get a good notch in the ice for squat-lean/stand strapping, it’s still less annoying and more energy efficient than sitting to strap up
Where do you put the wax/grease?
I’m mostly sure they fixed the clicking in the ‘23 model year
Hey man, just stumbled on your channel and subscribed right away cause I freaking LOVE it! Amazing content, incredible tips and pointers and you’re killing it with your approach! Heck yeah man, you and this channel are awesome! Gotta spread the word and represent out on the East Coast -Quebec, Canada!
Just bought the Burton Step-Ons and after 4 trips to the hill I love them. Feel super confident and like you said- the responsiveness is sick. Now I’m gonna go down the rabbit hole of watching all your other videos and catching up. Thanks dude!
used step ons all last season, the clicking never bothered me. But yeah the consistent feel and absolute responsiveness is amazing. I have taken it down some pretty rough terrain and had some tomahawks, only time I ever came out was my foot out of the boot lol. boot was still firmly attached to the board lol.
Do you need special boots for the step on?
@@moonseanni3671 Yeah you have to have the Burton Step on boots for the DC compatible Step on boots
I am looking to purchase some for my son. He will carve and do a little park some. Im wondering which stiffness in both boot and binding would be best for him. Hes only worn rentals in the past so im sure all the step ons will be much stiffer than whats hes used to.
@@michaelsutherland9069 so the stepson bindings are super responsive I wouldn’t say stiff. I have the phantom boots which are pretty stiff. From what I understand the ruler boots are a bit less stiff so you may wanna go with those. The responsiveness is a bit getting use to but it’s awesome once you do as you get way less worn out not having to flex as hard
@@IdahoOutdoorDad thank you
Step on all the way. The responsiveness is great every input is translated into edge movement. Love it.
3:09 the “ryan knapton” battle cry carve 😂😂
Good to see you on the snow again Tommie. I really envy the snow. I am still waiting for snow her in NY.
I absolutely love my step-ons. Just tight and sharp - so fun!
Video Quality: these vids where you are wearing the wireless mic is AMAZING! Keep that sh!t up, I love the commentary WHILE you're riding. Great content, looking forward to more!
I was wondering why we could hear Tommie so well. 😆
The Burton store here in Chicago was having a CRAZY sale on their "demo" gear and i picked up a pair of the first gen step ons and boots for $150!! The bindings were never demo'd so they were totally new and the boots were ridden no more than twice! It's crazy! But can't wait to try them this coming season at the dinky resorts in Wisconsin.
Insane deal!!
Yewww
I just ordered boots and bindings for $750 from the latest drop. I got scammed😂😂
@@tommiebennett I'm sayin'!! LoL 😎
@@anthonymoore4000 😬 yeah, eff that 😆
I just picked up the bindings, and I'm now waiting for the 22/23 step-on shoes to be available to try on and purchase at the local store. My younger kids, ages 7 and 9, picked up skiing two years ago, and they love it so much that they want to go every weekend. They don't wait for their old dad to strap in at the top after exiting the lift. I hope I can catch up with them faster after switching to the step on.
I love the Double Barrel snowboard. Great park/ resort cruiser.
this style of video is great, i love the microphone being on you and talking while going down
Yes the microphone was sick! Great review Tommie
I just got a snowboard this year! I will be on the channel to learn my beginner stuff and move to park love it!
@@tommiebennett thanks bro I appreciate it !
Another type of person you could recommend them for is one whose feet have a high arch/instep and might struggle with pressure and blood circulation issues while using traditional bindings. That's the main reason I've been drawn to the Step Ons (next step will be to potentially switch to skis) and all the other features are just butter. The potential to be riding this season with no (or at least greatly reduced) pain is going to be game (life?) changing.
Lol this is the deciding factor for me, I’m definitely getting them now.
My dude Tommie! Great video ❤️ When these first came out I was hating on these, but now I love my Step Ons. Nice and responsive and they create another level of fun for me. The more you ride them, the better they get.
Why were you hating on them at first? There are still a ton of haters just to hate. Lol. Try it out first before just hating. Glad you love yours man.
@@Chaugar you’re right! I hated on them for the same reason a lot of people continue to hate on them. I never tried them and assumed they were going to be for lazy people and beginners. Other than telling my brother I thought they were dumb, I didn’t go around hating on them on social media or anything like that. When I saw the bindings in real life though, they looked so cool and I knew I had to try them. Man was I wrong. Such a great binding! Burton killed it!
I am looking to purchase some for my son. He will carve and do a little park some. Im wondering which stiffness in both boot and binding would be best for him. Hes only worn rentals in the past so im sure all the step ons will be much stiffer than whats hes used to.
@@michaelsutherland9069 i like the swath and the ruler for overall riding. I like to carve and do park laps. For me, the photon and Ion are a little too stiff. The other boot that would work for him is the Kendo.
@@michaelsutherland9069 the regular step on will work just fine for him.
I got them last year, I can't imagine going back to regular bindings
Lol... Dude.. you are so funny! I didn't get a thing about the step on. You are hilarious... Very entertaining to watch!
The “RYAN KNAPTON” when testing the carves had me rolling lmao
Bought them last year. I am relearning after massive hip surgery. Love them so far.
@@tommiebennett if you have any sort of impingement, you may wanna check out the FAI Fix programme. Saved me from getting surgery on both hips couple years ago.
You forgot to mention this system is also for older riders with a mild case of a beer belly, just saying. As the ground getting lower every years, I am def thinking to try these, maybe this winter.
I wanna see you do a review on the clew bindings. I’ve seen other reviews but you did a really good job on really giving me a feel
Great review want to upgrade my steps on’s now 🤙🏻
I love my step ons. I'm old and beat up. My mountain isn't very tall. Not having to strap in at the top is awesome!
Nice review Tommie! These are not for me but the point someone made about being able to step in as you're getting off the chair makes them a bit more attractive. What I am excited about is to see the next generation of kids who'll grow up riding these things develop a whole new world of freestyle "bind-and-unbind-and-bind again" tricks. Kickflips mid run? Maybe ...
Bro ... you do an excellent job. Thx , big up from Romania
I switched to them mainly because I live in Midwest and the resorts in Wisconsin are tiny, runs are like 1-2 minutes at most. Being able to step on really saves the time!
definitely not for beginners, but if you're intermediate or pretty proficient at riding they're awesome.
they take a little getting used to, but once you're used to them they're freakin' awesome......
when you're not fiddling around with straps, it really is nice.
and the bindings are totally legit. well made, sturdy, quality materials, look good and perform great!
the photon boots do take a bit of break in, but after about three days of riding they're fine--
orrr, just put em on and wear em around for several hours--that helps too.
thanks for the video!
I'm a beginner and it's very easy to use to get in and out, if anything other than the convenience these are incredible. I'd figure as a beginner have more error for play is better but I'm a quick learner 2nd time snowboarding ever and I went step on route and I'm already starting to link turns and almost do proper edge carving
Subbed!! Road to 50k!! Good luck!
Legit that you are going to stick with straps but can still give such a good review.
I'm using these and love them. Performance and responsiveness is great. I don't think you lose anything there.
A fact of life is that our joints degrade over time, and eventually not needing to bendi down so much is a big plus. Step Ons are helping to keep me on the mountain longer and more often.
Maybe I should rent or borrow a set of strap boots and bindings and do a comparison from the other angle. Modern bindings look a lot more usable, well designed and engineered than when I last used them.
I have the 2st gen and being overweight was a godsend. The bending was absolutely horrid to strap on, but not with step ons.
Ive lost weight and I refuse to switch back. The boots are so damned tight if you have wide feet, but switching liners is your answer.
What liners did you put on em?
I got them new in Jan, no issue easy adjustment and fast!!
I picked up a set of step ons last year at the end of the season and only got about 5 days on em. I like them but I'm not totally sold yet. In fact I'm already considering picking up a pair of traditional boots and using my old af Cartels on my other board and alternating between the two my first 6-10 days of riding to really see which I like better.
I’ve honestly never owned a pair of regular boots and bindings, my first set up was those old school step ins with the bar under the center of your foot, clips into the binding. Sketchy Af but they were given to me so.. then like 3-4 years ago I got a pair of K2 clickers given to me, a little bit bigger than I’d like so I bought the burton step ons at the beginning of last season. The K2’s bind is definitely the one that seems safest but also least convenient, Burton’s are a nice mix of safe, convenient and comfortable... I’m sure they’re all just as safe, it’s more of a mental thing probably, just how safe they look
Edit: so actually I lied, my step ons were a few weeks out when I ordered them last season so I bought a cheap pair of regular bindings and boots and I broke them in one run by crashing the hardest I ever have into a tree after falling off a ledge
Edit2: I don’t think I’ve had to sit down to strap in since I was like 9
I've always been a Flow "fanboy", but recently my boot of 10 years got destroyed the other day. Started researching the step ons...I've got a pair of the photons in shipping now and the x bindings shipping hopefully soon in time for my next trip to the "mountain"(one of these days I'll make it to a real mountain).
I'll be sticking with the traditional setup as well probably until I'm into my 60s lol
Ready to get mine
dude tommie and avran are the only ones I trust with reviews. they are honest.
You should test out the new clew bindings next. They are step “ins” and they still have the straps over your toe and heal.
3rd season with the step on It’s really amazing, but I still prefer my OG strap on binding.
woah. been following your stuff on IG for months and now he seeing that he speaks on youtube!
As an instructor, I’ve wondered if it would be useful for the constant in and out when I’m helping my complete beginner students. But regular bindings have just never felt like a pain, so it’s hard to justify the price tag of step-ons. Would love to try them for a week whilst teaching though
Personally I've been looking at them for a couple of seasons. Since I joined my local ski patrol I think they might prove useful. It's an added comfort.
Best binding I love it especially for hiking a rail it’s perfect Bc it takes 2 seconds to pop back in and for teaching students the step ons would be perfect
They are not really that much more.
Keep an eye out for sales at the end of the season, especially if there is a newer version coming out the next year, this way I got a 45% on my binding and 40% on my boots discount last year.
It’s better if your gear looks like their gear. If you are teaching beginners, you probably just ride one footed anyway. And then for upper level, no need to get in/out of bindings. Teach one footed, it’s so much easier
Thanks for this. I can see you were in the Photons (which I just bought) but are the bindings the regular version, the X, or the Genesis? The X are supposed to be stiffest, Genesis in the middle. They also have a newer boot that is lace instead of Boa.
How does this compare to the k2 clicker to you ? And which one do you prefer? Thanks for the reviews
I Ski and Snowboard. Haven't went skiing in a long time, went snowboarding the other day and the skiers made me jealous not having to strap in or struggle getting back to the lift. This could prevent me front going back to skiing.
Solid objective review! I rode mine for 1/2 of a season last year before switching back to straps. Ultimately they're great for convenience and responsive carving, but they suck ass to get in and out of in PNW chunky powder. Would definitely warn anybody riding powder of that issue
Watch Midwest shredder video on pow. No issues. Def a technique to it, but possible.
I rode them in NM and CO powder. We have a more dry powder. I found them easier to get in and out of in deep powder. Just my 2 cents.
Step on all the Time for me never going back to traditionnal bindings
I use them since they ´ve been out 😊
I love mines. They were a game changer for me. I'll never go back lol. And you were right on the target group for them.
Love the step ons! I switched over from burton cartels, vitas and missions. They introduced the genesis binding to the line line (which is softer than the standard step on) this year and I'm pairing it with a soft boot(the ruler) for my park setup. I have the standard step on and the photon(the boot you rode) for my pow set up and then have the stiff step on x and dc judge for my FR/all mountain setup. Takes getting use to but I love the response.
Hey RJ, don’t normally leave a YT comment but your message was very insightful. I currently ride genesis + ruler after moving up from cartels. Almost exclusively carving, no park. Would love some more info on your switch. I’ve been looking to get firmer boots as the ruler is a bit soft with some heel lift, feels like I should consider step on. How does it compare to std step on with photons? Comfort level (no hammock back)? Heel lift? And how do they all compare to step on x and dc judge? My goal is to get no play/movement in the boot. Usually find myself cranking bindings and playing with the tongue of the boot to lock the heel down.
Thanks again RJ your comment is already very helpful!
@@LordKryn if you like zero lift in the heel, check out Salomon LoFi boots. Not a step on boots but It is a moderately stiff boot with their straight jacket system. It's a strap that covers ankle exclusively allowing you to boa rachet it down as tight as you want for zero heel lift. Really cool system.
@@LordKryn to be honest I haven't had a chance to try the genesis yet or the judge. They both just dropped on the 18th and I wanted to wait for a bit more of the mountain to open. I will say the photon has been the work horse of the step on line and the snugger strap/faux ankle strap helps keep your heel from lifting. The best rule with boots step on or otherwise is the best boot is the one that fits your foot. So I recommend getting fitted I wear a 9 in burton but a 8.5 in dc if you have lift in your boots a good boot fitter can help with that. They can add J bars or make others mods. Another option if you don't want to jump to step ons is check out k2 boots they're comfy and they have a special component called their conda system which specifically holds your heel down.
@@randyguhl thanks guys, excellent info to both of you. I’m pretty interested in step on as the toe side response is where heel lift sucks so with everyone raving about toe side with step on it could be the answer. Will give the other boots a look. A custom footbed has helped but didn’t think to mod the boot… I came from Nitro boots with more dramatic heel pinching that I’ve missed.
Given that you’ve purchased a second set of step ons it seems like you’re converted. Std step on + photon probably the right place to start (with maybe a j bar mod)…
I am looking to purchase some for my son. He will carve and do a little park some. Im wondering which stiffness in both boot and binding would be best for him. Hes only worn rentals in the past so im sure all the step ons will be much stiffer than whats hes used to.
nice work bro
Just got the DC step on boots, they definitely seem a little softer than the Burton dual boa boots. Hopefully responsive but supposedly not quite as stiff.
My DC''s are arriving tomorrow. How did you like them?
Have em. looooove em.
Do you think this step ons would be good for park as well? Cause I’m curious why the pros like Mark Mcmorris and other Burton pro rides are no using them? And could you make a video on your bindings angles please, I know is a personal preference but since you are a coach could you explain the pros and cons of using to much angle on them or no that much angle, thank bro 👍🏻
How are people still suprised theyre at least decent now, this will be the 6th season there out for
Because we were all scared by Clickers
Hi Tommie! Did find it harder to pop when compared to classic strap bindings, or just the same?
i love it. however after 4th day on the hill, one of the clips on the toe side just snapped break. I guess cold tempetures make plastic too frigid. im going through the second pair of step on bindings and it was mid december. Also the boots tearing on the thong where the boot strap, thong and the laces line meet.
so they work well as long as they last, but they aint last long unfortunetley
2nd set of bindings has broken toe clips same side / spot
The inner front cleat of my non-primary foot has peeled off and it has partially peeled off my soles on my 2019/20 stepons. I have only used it for approx 6 months (mar-apr20, dec20-apr21, dec21-jan22), riding 2/3 days per week 2/3 hours each ride. Intermediate rider mostly stays on piste. How long do your step ons last before the cleats peeled off.
Only thing I find a bit off about the step ons is when you flex into toeside edge, because there is a clip at the back of the boot it naturally wants to lift your heel up. Which can cause issues if you do want that looser park feel you normally can get with looser ankle straps
If your heel is lifting consider adding the J-bars to boots. That made a huge difference for me in my Ion / StepOn. With the straps I was just crushing my foot down with the ankle strap instead of just having the boot actually hold the heal down.
Pro tip if the J-bars are too thick you can sand them to down to perfect the fit.
@@NebraskaDownHiller Sorry, should've stated. I didn't mean heel lift inside the boot. I meant heel lift when you flex into the toeside edge, the highback instantly responds due to the buckle connection thats right there. Which can cause issues if you're wanting to progress into more freestyle. On rails (boardslide) you have to be flat footed and collapse your ankle so that the board stays flat. With the steps on as soon as you collapse your ankle your toeside edge is initiated in the slightest if that makes sense.
Every review cannot find a problem with these bindings but ends up recommending them to beginners or people that have reduced mobility, saying they will not switch to them because of "feelings", but I don't understand what these feelings are.
I got them for the convenience, love them for the performance.
When you are use to the ritual of lacing up and sitting at the top getting your head right before a run and its less about rapid repetition of runs because you aren’t a beginner it feels cheesy to some. I get it
I can see that, I am not into any kind of
rituals, maybe that's why.
@@ammakko Maybe ritual is the wrong word but basically doing something the same way for 10 to 20 years isnt going to easily change
Thanks for the review Tommie, it’s Finn and my wife and I just bought the same step on boots and bindings a few months ago. We will be using them in NC over Thanksgiving, and then the 1st week of Jan in CO…..Cooper, Breckenridge, Keystone ……can’t wait, hopefully I get a chance to meet ya!!!? Killin it!!!!🤙🏻
@@tommiebennett they said skiCooper. 2 "o"s
@@tommiebennett sorry, will not be hitting up Copper….we are getting the Epic Day passes, so Vail will be taking the place of Copper, then Breck and Keystone🤙🏻
I wanna know if it makes my gear LIGHTER!?!? Like will i be able to jump higher and further (thinking about it meow i dont think 4 straps would make to much of a difference 😅.... thoughts!)
They even made big foot rider sizes 👏👏👏👏👏🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾💪💪💪💪
Straps for life.
SO glad you finally tried these out. Did me and @midwestshredder convince you?
Any idea on the boot sizing. I’ve heard you need a whole size to size/half up. Looking at photon 12 I wear an 11
I want them
Hi Tommie,
What snowboard is it? What is your feet size? You are in small bindings but ride 152 board. I'm curious what waist width does it have.
I just purchased the new 23 burton custom Flying V. It was a package deal on the house( unfortunately new year boards don’t get sign up discount) BUT the panda design got me. First set up I’ve bought.. did it for the panda… buuut the binding ain’t step on and honestly I want to sell my brand new binding for burtons step ons
Would the Burton Ruler Step On boots be a better option if you want less stiffness and a more loose feeling when riding? Have been thinking to change to the step on system for a while. Is it worth going for the new 2.0? Could hopefully get some used to a good price otherwise.
Great review by the way! 😄👍
Is your hoodie water proof or water resistant? And might be late but what’s the 411 with the new goggles
Started seriously boarding at 45. I’ve had StepOn’s for three seasons now. I rock either Nagano (Hakuba & Happo One) Yuzawa, & Hokkaido on a bi weekly basis. These things have yet to fail once. I was catching edges hard at first but now the response is second nature. I can’t see myself ever going back.
Tommie.. give them a longer chance. Try them out for half a season or a whole season
@@tommiebennett one day is not enough.
I had similar thoughts to your review after the first couple days. Once I got about 5-6 days on mountain with my stepon setup I’m never going back. They really improve the more you ride them / once the boot is broke in. Truly game changing.
Can you please do the same with clew bindings an compare this 2 bindings?
Small hill bindings. If your resort has like 1-3 minutes rides there great.
Just received mines
Overall I think the step ons are legit, but I’m never gonna even consider buying a pair until I see a Burton team rider compete in step ons. If their own athletes won’t back their product and compete in them, why should I buy them?
you will see it at competitor level once the juniors that are starting now on these will grow up and start competing. It feels slightly different, the muscle memory for riding is slightly different and if the riders are already competing they are already used to something, they worked on the muscle memory and doing change to their style to radically new thing just for the sake of convenience and slightly better response and control? that's a lot to ask, it's a hard mental game and very few can do it. I think most will go with what they used to. New riders? for those it doesn't matter and I would say for new riders this is actually easier as you have consistency at least in the binding setups and that translates in faster learning because the board reacts the same way all the time. (just my 2c)
@@Tom-fm2fh That's exactly what it is. I agree with you 100%
I think you should try them for a couple of days, and then decide for yourself. Frankly, I think they are so clearly superior that going against them is starting to become kind of blasè.
Reminds me a bit about when the first carving skis went out, old timers refused for a long time to accept defeat.
I used to compete. Team riders have very different requirements. Your comment makes sense if you ride really really hard and have specific needs around a particular discipline (park, pipe, bx, etc). The overwhelming majority of people are resort riders who snowboard for recreation. For team riders, snowboarding is their job and convenience is not a big factor.
@@Nicool333 Freaking well said that’s exactly how I feel I’ve been riding for 35 years so yeah I’m 53 and I can carve and get down just fine but I do not need anything that’s hard-core at this stage in the game and I love having some nice response and ease I had no idea how much effort I was exerting on my old bindings which were crap Lamar bindings anyways but still I could rip and enjoy them but man was I working my ass off these bindings are so touchy I love it it feels kind of like that old-school hard boot alpine feel when people would actually wear ski boots on their snowboards without having to go through that kind of weirdness
Is "strapping in" step-ons when you're sat down difficult? Sometimes when you're waiting for friends or just chilling on the slope or if the slope is really steep I'm usually sat down when strapping in conventional bindings.
Yes. You need counter pressure to click in on the step ons. That's nearly impossible to do while sitting down. You need to be standing to step on first. Then you can sit down with your feet already clicked in and chill with your homies.
love keystone... I think it is.
I've demo'd step ons and was not impressed by any means. Maybe if I could get a better boot with them they could be better. They take some time getting used to.
Having ridden these for 3 seasons in all conditions ( even deep pow) I can say that the biggest thing for new users is proper boot selection. Because of the way you lock into the baseplate there is very little play in any direction ( especially side to side). So, you don't need to buy the stiffer boots to get response. If you go too stiff on the boots they will be twitchy and uncomfortable. My suggestion would be think of how stiff your normal boots are and try one step down.
Great info. I was riding Ions and Genesis in regular boot/bindings. Have Photon in Step Ons. I figure once they are broken in and depending on how tight I lace up hopefully somewhat similar?
@@wheaty64 Yeah, that should be about right. You will find them to be quite a bit more responsive though. A good trick that I found while breaking in the ion SO is the run the snugger strap fairly loose during the break in and the slowly add tension to it as the boot breaks in( and down) to keep the flex consistent longer. I've got 135 days on my ions...and they are just hitting the point where I may need to replace them. Hope this helps.
@@jonbrown9490 That makes good sense. With my regular Ions I find I lace them fairly loosely and gradually lace tighter as they break in a little. I'm looking forward to the increased response personally. Like the idea of not having to guess how tight to ratchet down straps every run too.
@@wheaty64 I'm betting that you'll love them. I've got zero desire to go back. Have a great season!
@@jonbrown9490 Thanks, Jon. Hope you have a great season too. Having missed a season due to Covid lockdowns, I am really looking forward to riding again. I have snowboarded since the 80s and think that its about time strapping in disappeared.
Tommie, can you tell me what you thought of them when it came to doing presses? Did you feel you had to adjust to them in any way when pressing?
I totally get what you mean when you said you like bindings that are tight and the “huggy” feeling. I used to be like that but after two seasons on step ons I am now used to the “lose” feeling and I love it! I used to be constantly trying to tighten my boots to feel locked in but now I tighten once and I never touch the boots again. By the end of the day my feet feel fine. Even in on those long runs where my legs and feet start burning, the feet recover super quick.
Thoughts on the Clew bindings?
How are step on bindings for doing butters?
If I was a snowboarder I would get them
What board you use and size? Thanks
Can u make a video showing how to do those tricks u did?
Lemme try to come out of these REEEEEEEEEAAAAAARRRRRR
3:36 when you step on da gas pedal
Hey Tommie! Thanks for the very thorough review! Do you know if they fixed the forward lean issue that they had on the previous version? Many of the ones I saw could not get past F2 and whenever you added forward lean, the heel wouldn't always engage the second click. I had to swap out the forward lean screws on mine for longer ones just so I can get to F4. Thanks!
From the looks of it the forward lean (screws) are the same so the amount of forward lean is limited like in version one. There is a hack to make getting in easier with the forward lean all the way. Adjust your bottom foam bed to a half size bigger. So if you are say a 9, put them at 9.5. That will help you engage that heal click a lot easier, especially that 2nd click.
@@Chaugar unfortunately that hack doesn't work if you're a 9.5 since the setting for the foot bed for 9.5 and 10 is the same 😔. I ended up getting size 9 boots so I can do that. Along with changing my forward lean screws for longer ones.
Funnily when I took out the factory FL screws, I saw they had markings all the way till F4, but they are way too short and screwing them in never gets to that setting. My guess is something changed with the depth of the hole they sit in and Burton forgot to change the length to account for the change in depth. The longer screws that I got work, and I have it set to what would have been F4, but that makes it a bit harder to step on when on steeper terrain, especially if you have a wide stance.
I love my step ons and how responsive they are! I wouldn't change them. But my only gripe with them is they aren't very adjustable. If you carve, which I almost exclusively do, then they get tricky since you get limited forward lean out of the box and customizing that makes the bindings harder to use and you can't always get the second heel click, which in turn leaves wiggle room in the bindings, which reduces their responsiveness. I learned to live with it and every time I step on I do a little ollie just to click my heel in fully. Not a big deal for me, but it did take a while before I finally got a setup I was happy with
@@anawara where did you get the longer screws from? Did you just have to match up the threading with any generic longer screw? When I did own a set of step ons, I remembered wanting more forward lean.
@@Chaugar at the hardware store. I took out one of factory screws and matched the threading there. Also changed it to a hex screw since i found it easier to do on the mountain. I used M5x40 screws. They stick out of the hole a bit because they had a bigger head than the hole but you don't really notice them while riding. And you can adjust FL without having to stick a screwdriver inside these tiny holes
I honestly think in 5-10 years these will be the normal bindings and strap-ons will be like the classic "Traditional" way of strapping your board. I think I'll stay with straps but you'll never know how good the Step-Ons will be developed :) Maybe one day they'll overtake the classic Strap-Ons
I think I might but then only cause all my friends ski and don’t wanna wait for me