I have a lovely uncommon mother. She is an American, northeast upbringing but very honest about relationships. She told me, as I was starting to date, to be very careful when committing to a man; learn about his family, his religion et al. She was very honest and told me many cultures treat women as property but they will draw you in with short term love-bombing (she gave diff phrase). I am so grateful for her honesty with me. She and my dad saved me from so many mistakes, just by having their words in my head.
Jasmine you are so right. I was friendly with an Arab young man who worked in a deli. He told me that his goal was to join a jihad to get Spain back. How it had been unfairly taken from the Arab people. It was so unbelievable how in furiated he was and his temper grew as he talked. I couldn’t wait to leave. I stopped using that deli.
The way Spanish government behaves right now, maybe they deserve it. I keep saying that Israel should just ship them some Palestinians to free Al Andalus.
Thank you for the intetesting guest and another shocking story. Unfortunately, in the West, people will not believe these stories until they experience it themself.
There's a channel called catfished that shows proof to the victims of the lies and scams they are in. It's very sad that even with proof from a third party, many don't want to believe it. Being without a partner should be more acceptable. It doesn't mean you have to be lonely and unfulfilled.
I lived in "secular " Morocco for 7 years full time and visited for 15 years before being forced to leave last year. All she says is true. The stories I could tell. It's horrific.
I understand. I knew a n older Dutch woman who lived with a Moroccan for five years. In the end he took all the money from their shared band account and returned to Morocco.
Because hospitality is so common and taken seriously, I think Americans aren't used to this and confuse it with love and respect for them. Every time I see a traveler on social media bragging about the hospitality they got, making the news liars about everything, i cringe. This hospitality is part of culture and socially mandatory, nothing more.
Wow I loved this! Thank you so much! The name Karen actually means “ray of light” so this Karen really is living up to her name by strongly speaking the truth and telling her objective story. And it’s so interesting hearing this description of Egyptian and Arab men. It’s something that I’ve seen and experienced amongst some Sephardic Israeli communities. The amazing difference is Islam. Now that the Sephardic Jewish communities are out of the Arab world they’re allowed to evolve. My Ashkenazi cousin married a Moroccan Sephardic woman. Her mother taught all of her 5 children, boys and girls, to only marry Ashkenazi and taught her boys to not behave as the Arab men before them. My close Sephardi friends from Morocco, Egypt, Iranian etc descents all talk about how their parents taught them to be strong women and gentle and giving men. It’s amazing how quickly the culture is allowed to shift and grow. And it’s heart breaking how many people are suffering under Islam created ideology.
I was in Luxor at the same time as Karin, and unfortunately, I also fell victim to a scam, losing around 700 euros. Thankfully, Karin was kind enough to warn me, which helped prevent an even worse situation from unfolding.
I had an Egyptian Ex-Muslim GF she told me EVERYTHING, the abuse and the low morals can get much more brutal.. This Karen didn't touch the tip of the iceberg.. the stories I heard secondhand scared me for life ngl...
Have you ever watched “Love is Blind Habibi”? It’s all on display there. I couldn’t believe they allowed it to be aired. Total expose of the “religion of peace “
Great interview, thank you! Glad Karen was able to get out of that situation & decided to tell her story. Hopefully the girls she trained remember some of what she taught them🥊! Glad she was able to help her friend Gita too.
Liberal westerners spout this "accepting, honoring" spiel, but when they are applying it to a culture that sees the opposite as the desired stance, it does NOT make them appear "virtuous" or "tolerant", but instead the liberals appear weak and gullible. It is a total delusion (and very much like those same people judge people in a society 100 years ago, by the mores of today, as if that has ANY validity. Kind of like seeing ridiculous people protesting with signs saying "Queers for Palestine", totally clueless that if they actually went there and made it known that they were homosexual, they would be literally put to death. Just totally ignorant.
Egyptians were never Arabic. Prior to the Islamic Arabic conquest, Egypt was a predominantly Christian country, with a significant majority of the population identifying as Christian. The Coptic Christians, who are the remnants of the original Egyptian population, made up a majority of the population. Christians: The majority of the population, with estimates suggesting upward of around 95% of Egyptians identified as Christian. Pagans: Although Christianity was the dominant religion, paganism continued to exist in some form, with some estimates suggesting around 1-5% of the population practiced paganism. Jews: A small Jewish population existed in Egypt, with estimates suggesting around 1-3% of the population identified as Jewish. The Islamic Arabic conquest had a profound impact on the demographics of Egypt. The conquest led to a significant shift in the population's religious identity, with many Egyptians converting to Islam by force over time. This process was facilitated by the jizya tax, which was imposed on non-Muslims; making it impossible to continue living in Egypt unless the inhabitants converted to Islam. Waves of Christians & non-Muslims were forced to flee the country, or face increased Jizya tax or harsh punishment. Today, the Coptic Christians make up only around 10-15% of Egypt's total population. The conquest also led to the Arabisation of the Egyptian population, with Arabic becoming the dominant language and culture by around the 16th-17th Century. This process was facilitated by the influx of Arab settlers and with that, the adoption of Arabic as the language of government and commerce which differed significantly from the Christians'. Overall, the Islamic Arabic conquest had a profound impact on the demographics of Egypt, leading to a significant shift in the population's religious identity, customs, traditions, commerce & governance, and the continuing Arabization of the country which has led to much controversy, contention & suffering throughout the past continuing to current day. The Coptic Christian community, other Christian communities such as Greek Orthodox, Roman & Byzantine Catholic Church in Egypt & other non-Muslim communities resisted & continue to resist the Arabisation and Islamicisation of Egypt. They continue the fight to practice their faith, traditions & customs despite harsh persecution and discrimination.
@@Vexx_Line_ Glad to see you know this history. I've never heard of even one incident where a Coptic Christian (or another denomination) initiated any violence against a Moslem. They know they'd be instantly killed if they did. It's very sad. There are hardly any Christians left in the Middle East.
For Muslims honour is the most important. For them every dispute is fight for honour - a matter of all or nothing. Muslims never compromise because they want everything without giving anything in return. Any dispute with Muslims is unresolvable.
Love it a bit like I just wanted to test the fire…….What is it with these women that are soooo taken in. And it’s only got worst with the liberal leftists western women.
I started to listen to this story half-heartedly and was completely absorbed. Karen sounds (tawks) just like a friend of mine from 'Noo Joisey'. Karen survived by the skin of her teeth! I'm surprised she didn't just disappear. Please proclaim this message from the rooftops!! The West is ignorant of these realities. A friend of mine married an Egyptian. They had a son. When he decided to take their son to the country to meet his family, she conceded but refused to go. I guess she was fortunate that he wanted to live in the States. The Arab mind set is very different. Strength must be met with strength.
I went to Egypt in 1985. , a month return ticket. Low budget, backpack, sleep out on nice beaches. It was hell on earth, Everyday. . To survive emotionally . The Police want money , or you go to the station, where you pay twice. I laugh now thinking about it. These people are in a state of devolution. . I left thinking, if the Aswan Dam burst, all of this would be gone. Good riddance.
Woah! That sounds like quite the misadventure. It's fascinating how the allure of ancient places can really attract open minded people, those who like to travel & get into adventures, those who love exploring what's left of the world's antiquities, but don't look into how that area may have changed over time; in Egypt, the change was devastating & drastic. It's really sad since not too long ago Egypt & many other countries in that area were wonderful to visit. So then you get there & find your trip has turned into total chaos 😩. I can just imagine from the little bit you wrote. And the ending abt the dam LMAO!😅 Glad you were able to get the h3ll out of there. I'd love to hear more details if you're up for sharing. ✌️
Sorry but I found it a bit odd that the guest referred to "all these women" when she herself is one of them. Marrying someone as a second wife who already has four young kids-what was she thinking? Then, to judge other women by asking, "How can they do that knowing everything?" felt hypocritical. Much of what Karen said came across as privileged and a bit out of touch, particularly the part about needing to "be strict with them." That only seemed to work because she’s an American citizen. I was glad Yasmine was able to push back on some of those points.
The only thing i agree with you is that she got away with it because she is american. The rest is cherry picking. Which makes me think you're jelouse of her strength
@@sleether4049 Well, I have never been in a relationship with a married man, as I believe it is morally wrong-particularly if one has a privilege of being a Western woman/a woman from the West. So I do think Karen's 'marrying' a man who already has a wife was morally wrong. However, I empathise with women in other parts of the world who do not have the privilege of this choice. In many countries where polygamy is legal, women are often treated as second-class citizens and conditioned to accept this status, a reality powerfully illustrated in Yasmine’s book. Given this context, I do not think it is fair for Karen, a Western woman, to pass judgment on "all these women" as she did.
In the 80’s, I read anthropology books from decades earlier about Nile Egyptian villages in the mid 1900s. Not much different, except there were no villas to fight over.
When I heard you announce your last name, Hunt, I immediately thought of Dave Hunt. If he is your father, then I'd say you got "the truth and nothing but the truth" as he was a wonderful apologist and evangelist. I've learned so much from him! Thank you guys for sharing your experiences with the viewers. I will probably never go to the Middle East so it's good to hear others stories.
I’m very familiar with Egypt. Families fight between themselves over inheritance. Eg. An uncle wanting. Share of their dead brothers wealth, even though the brother had a wife and grown children.
Really insightful. Thank you. I think so many in the west, especially in government, have no idea just how different the culture is in Muslim majority countries but act as though they do.
Sadly, the older woman probably don't know the man has a few other wives with children & that he's trying to get in that will, access that pension or benefits, even health insurance.
This is a rare and interesting story. I had no idea this kind of villages existed. How terrible both for the foregin women that cant leave and for the girls and women that are born there. So very terrible 😢 the female mutilation... Im a western woman and I will not be fooled and always stand up for womens rights 💪
People living in villages are normally the ones working in agriculture using little modern machinery. The government doesn’t invest in decent infrastructure.
dear Yasmin, I would love to hear your opinion about motherhood in such an area and how come they believe that they have to educate their children to believe they are not worthy
1:07:00 its like a classroom without a teacher - as soon as someone shows they are the responsible adult they start rethinking what they are doing, and if that adult is not really respectable they'll ignore him too
White ppl saying ‘we oppressed you that’s why you are so unevolved’ is so condescending. As is what an Italian girl said to me - ‘we western women know about our oppression unlike the women in the east who are oppressed.’ How condescending to the millions of people who fight daily in places like iran. Do you think those people don’t know they are oppressed? Millions of Iranian women would beg to differ
Well it's true for the majority. Minority does understand. Look at iran. Women are at the forefront of making sure other women comply with the dress code and oppressive policies.
I used to listen to Dave Hunt's podcasts on the Berean Call and I have a number of his books. It's truly amazing to hear his daughter Karen's story. It just goes to show how naiive westerners are to Islam and the law of the jungle in the middle east!
I've just come back from a visit to Algeria and Tunisia and the guides and drivers were great and our experiences with the people in Algeria were beautiful. But our Tunisian guide was very upset by his fellows' laziness because the country is a garbage tip. They also protected us from scams etc. Some of our group got scammed with sob stories.
A friend worked in Public Works in Constantine, Algeria for several years. He told me about trash everywhere. (He kept his wife & daughter in France). Eventually he quit and went back to France. He has a TERRIBLE opinion about Algerians and Islam....
What wasn’t said is that the majority of people living in non-oil rich countries are poor. And getting poorer every day. In Egypt the elites control the government, military and most big businesses. The money doesn’t trickle down to the masses, even worse in small towns and villages. This is often where the agriculture is the main occupation. Their agricultural methods lack modern equipment etc. this doesn’t help the mentality for change. Egyptians also thrive on conspiracy theories. Critical thinking is not taught. Neither is long term planning.
I found her a bit difficult to follow. She was married to someone else when she “married “ this Egyptian guy? Why does she not go into her courtship with the first guy she married?
Wow is me! Well said Yasmeen. I love you. I had an Egyptian friend of mine tell me her father would kill her if she had sex outside of marriage. Almost sounding proud of it. This was an educated woman. The stories I can tell you.
Funny. I was a cinephile. I adored cinema. For the past few years that has changed. I don't know exactly why. But I feel like I've seen all the good films. Netflix is 99% rubbish. Wokeratis have destroyed culture etc. However with some of your conversations it really feels like the good old days ☺
Listening to your guest I was thinking about how girls and females in the west , because of political correctness, aren't being educated about how muslims view women and particularly non muslim women. It's like we're willing to sacrifice females to maintain virtue signalling. Yhis week in new ross, wexford, ireland, an 8 year old girl was killed in her house trying to protect her mother who was being stabbed. The child was stabbed and died. The investigation is ongoing so it's all 'alleged' but the mother was an irish convert to islam, the male involved was ' middle eastern' , 'kuwaiti' (depends on source), he tried to kill himself after and both him and the mother are still in hospital. Kids aren't stabbed often here so it's a real shock for people.
I don’t understand this woman. How can she be so gullible at the mature age after an abusive relationship! She didn’t have to become a second wife to start a boxing club. It seems she is still confused.
I don't think she married him to start a boxing club, she married him because she was very sexually attracted and she couldn't just have an affair without falling foul of the culture/law there, so effectively she got married to have an affair, that's what she said.... I guess she chose to believe his wife was OK with it and maybe she was if it kept him off her case!
It’s too complex to explain here, but these dynamics exist for women in the west also - just a different form. It has taken me 70 years to understand the way to deal with men in the west is also to be very strong and not too agreeable. Martial arts should be mandatory for girls to back up the needed assertiveness. This planet is a challenge for women everywhere.
Yes and it's so annoying that men who dress as women want to use women's spaces and compete against women in sports. They want all the advantages of being a woman without any of the disadvantages. How long did women have to fight for what we have in the West and these men walz in expecting women to give way to them?
Married an israeli american (born in usa grew up there). He promised me my family his family heceould never move back. We went for a one year trip he immediately started living as a bachelor in every way. only spoke to me in front of his friends. His family same. My children and i were allowed to leave (at my widowed mothers expense) during the Hussein declaration of war. I was told the israeli bachelor husband is(?) The norm
In 1914 the Egyptians were scamming the Australian soldiers and Egyptians had a bad reputation among the troops. They are not Christians, no ten commandments.
For a contract to be applicable in Egypt it would have to be written according to the laws of the land, did your daughter study Egyptian law to be able to write this contract you speak of? An American contract and an Egyptian contract are extremely different. A lot of what you are saying does not sound correct, lest I say you are lying.
So, just as a side-note, I'm curious about the comment you make, Karen, that "It would be better if someone from Luxor was teaching those little Egyptian girls boxing, than you, as a westerner., but there was no one there to do it." My question is "Why?" Why do you think you need to justify teaching them by adding that disclaimer? Why would that somehow be better? And, if you teach little girls there, doesn't that make it possible that then one of them would go on in years to come, to continue teaching little girls there? I just don't get the liberal POV that sharing knowledge with others is somehow superior if it comes from someone that "looks like them" or is the same nationality, or gender or whatever. That aside, the video and the story are fascinating. And I love the addition of Yasmine's POV and comments to Karen's. Just an excellent show.
@hpyrkh3 But this about is today's Islam which has taken over all the area and is also taking over the West. The distant history of Egypt is less relevant. If you go that far back Judaism was hardly a bed of roses for women. Women were property in most societies until recent times.
@ I’m not arguing what you are saying, I just have a suspicion that that part of the world didn’t see enlightenment ever. Btw, all things are relative. Compared to now, Jewish women of ancient times and medieval times were oppressed. But, compared to Christianity and Islam and many other civilizations, Judaism was like feminism for women. I have very specific examples why I’m saying this.
@hpyrkh3 Everything is relative but as a woman I still wouldn't wish to live by the rules of any super religious group. Men always add rules to keep women in 'their place'. Islam at its most basic is super controlling and women lose their voices and what we would consider basic rights. It is inhumane at its core by Western standards.
FYI. Women's boxing is only exercise. Lemon please understand this if you're going to take a martial art it pretty much has to be Jiu-Jitsu all the other ones are for exercise and maybe defend against other women and small sickly men but a regular healthy Man a striking defense is not going to really work. A weapon God especially is really the best..... I'm sure women can do a lot of things that men can do but please believe there is a difference in physical strength.
West women who are not of Muslim descent don't really have an excuse anymore and I am really starting to lose sympathy for them. I know it sounds harsh but that is the same reason why America is losing wars all of these hearts and minds and feel sorry for people who go against the grain because they feel this and believe that and then it's up to us to Care is kind of hard yes we can still care about them but 0 we also have to educate them I just don't understand them marrying these dudes from those countries and definitely not following them over there
You really had an adventure. Not real a danger, otherwise you would not be able to keep coming back. Even now I see you still underestimate the situation you got yourself into. They could still do you in! Be aware. Sorry to say that.
That wasn’t a respectful comment. I may sound arrogant but I know more about Egypt than Karen and Jasmine. 40 years and marrying/ divorcing an Egyptian man. I saw and endured lots of disgusting things. I’m still in touch with my ex and relatives and friends there. Karen is obsessed with Sharia law in Egypt which does NOT control all aspects of law. Every Moslem country picks snd chooses what aspects and degree Sharia is used. In most cases it’s family law - marriage, divorce, inheritance, children, etc. I survived living in Egypt. I’m 76 and well educated. And no I’m it looking for a medal. Egyptian society is very strained with very low wages and very high cost of living. Worse than ever. Egyptians are famous for not leaving much on the table when negotiating. They’ve never learned win-win. I suggest you educate yourself more on the Middle East.
@@sbaumgartner9848 All Shariah is dangerous since it's only a stay to incrementally introduce more & it could change in an instant. That's great you were able to pull off what you did. However, no one gets to choose where they're born, thus millions of girls & women ARE subject to those higher levels of Shsriah. Your lived experiences are your own, others have their story, their lived experiences to tell.
I don't understand why she didn't help the foreign women get out.. and she seems obsessed with villas... I don't know, I'm starting to feel a bit negative toward your guest... I don't entirely know why.
She did! Didn’t you hear she said she contacted the next woman and told her her story and contacted the others after that and then started unravelling their operation?
How exactly is one woman supposed to change the beliefs of an entire population? Do you think she has the resources to purchase them their own private island or something? She did what she could, when she could by setting up a program to help the girls empower themselves by learning to box & helping her friend Gita. If you want to help start up your own show, publish your own news letter or article, educate yourself & debate, start your own charity or work with other efforts geared toward women.
I’ve lived in Egypt, married an Egyptian. And Egypt and the Middle East has been in my life for 40 years. As a foreigner especially living in smaller towns and dealing with village mindsets should be very careful trying to introduce change . The females in my Egyptian family were all cut and their grandmother was married at age 13. It was my role to question their decisions. I didn’t want yo cause problems. I saw lots of ugly things there. My younger sister in law couldn’t get pregnant so her first two husbands divorced here and put her clothes and furniture out on the street to come get. Luckily she married another man who had a child from a previous married. He didn’t want more children and I don’t think he supported the child he had.
I know MuCH more about Egypt gained from a marriage then divorce there, plus 40 years of it being a major part of my life. So much context and clarity wasn’t covered. It would need more time and better flow.
Those men's behaviour is totally contrary to the Islamic teachings. Karen seems to be an intelligent woman, I'm surprised she didn't research the religion before attaching those scammers to Islam. Scammers are in many developing countries with different religions.
Unfortunately, you can't distinguish between what really Islam teaches ant the cultural Islam. The fact is Egypt never applied shariah Law, it has been secular system , I challenge both of you to bring forward the shariah law. Stop your spewing poisons, misrepresentation and misinformation of Islam.
Real Is**m is the doctrine found in qran and sunna. It implies slavery, djihad, child 'marriage', death for apostates, FGM, dhimmitude and islmc superiourity.
??? I looked up Sharush law by country. Egypt applies z Sharush law for some aspects of law especially family matters. Like marriage, divorce, polygamy, inheritance. Etc. Unless you’re a female from an upper class family and you have a tight marriage contract , a women who is divorced gets virtually nothing from the divorce. He keeps the home while she provided all the furniture which is now wrecked because it’s poorly made. Plus it’s hard for a single/ divorced women with of without children to afford and be allowed to rent an apartment o their own. I know much about Egypt as it’s been in my life for 40 years.
I have a lovely uncommon mother. She is an American, northeast upbringing but very honest about relationships. She told me, as I was starting to date, to be very careful when committing to a man; learn about his family, his religion et al. She was very honest and told me many cultures treat women as property but they will draw you in with short term love-bombing (she gave diff phrase). I am so grateful for her honesty with me. She and my dad saved me from so many mistakes, just by having their words in my head.
All parents of my generation would not have the knowledge to give that advice. I think it's great yours did.
Love your podcast Yasmine thanks for the amazing work you do ❤
Jasmine you are so right. I was friendly with an Arab young man who worked in a deli. He told me that his goal was to join a jihad to get Spain back. How it had been unfairly taken from the Arab people. It was so unbelievable how in furiated he was and his temper grew as he talked. I couldn’t wait to leave. I stopped using that deli.
I wonder if they want southeastern Europe back too? After all, it was ruled by the Ottomans.
The way Spanish government behaves right now, maybe they deserve it. I keep saying that Israel should just ship them some Palestinians to free Al Andalus.
😅😅😅
That is insanity but plausible knowing what I know now about the insatiable ideological totalitarianism of Islamism.
The Spanish government ( as the U.K. government) may be poor but the mass of the people don’t share their ideals.
Thank you for the intetesting guest and another shocking story. Unfortunately, in the West, people will not believe these stories until they experience it themself.
@@jenny.G8923 Absolutely. You can’t say anything without being completely cancelled.
There's a channel called catfished that shows proof to the victims of the lies and scams they are in. It's very sad that even with proof from a third party, many don't want to believe it. Being without a partner should be more acceptable. It doesn't mean you have to be lonely and unfulfilled.
This episode particularly is very touching and sad to me as a woman first and then as Egyptian,,thanks a lot Karen and Yasmine
I lived in "secular " Morocco for 7 years full time and visited for 15 years before being forced to leave last year. All she says is true. The stories I could tell.
It's horrific.
@@noelbensted3389 I’m so sorry. I hope you are healing from that experience. I understand.
I understand. I knew a n older Dutch woman who lived with a Moroccan for five years. In the end he took all the money from their shared band account and returned to Morocco.
Are you sure that Morocco is secular ?
@noelbensted3389 Please tell the stories so that others can benefit from your experience.
@@UserUnkown-do1ji its as secular as the PLO lol
Because hospitality is so common and taken seriously, I think Americans aren't used to this and confuse it with love and respect for them. Every time I see a traveler on social media bragging about the hospitality they got, making the news liars about everything, i cringe. This hospitality is part of culture and socially mandatory, nothing more.
Wow I loved this! Thank you so much! The name Karen actually means “ray of light” so this Karen really is living up to her name by strongly speaking the truth and telling her objective story. And it’s so interesting hearing this description of Egyptian and Arab men. It’s something that I’ve seen and experienced amongst some Sephardic Israeli communities. The amazing difference is Islam. Now that the Sephardic Jewish communities are out of the Arab world they’re allowed to evolve. My Ashkenazi cousin married a Moroccan Sephardic woman. Her mother taught all of her 5 children, boys and girls, to only marry Ashkenazi and taught her boys to not behave as the Arab men before them. My close Sephardi friends from Morocco, Egypt, Iranian etc descents all talk about how their parents taught them to be strong women and gentle and giving men. It’s amazing how quickly the culture is allowed to shift and grow. And it’s heart breaking how many people are suffering under Islam created ideology.
I’m glad the guest told of her experiences. Thank you.
I was in Luxor at the same time as Karin, and unfortunately, I also fell victim to a scam, losing around 700 euros. Thankfully, Karin was kind enough to warn me, which helped prevent an even worse situation from unfolding.
You were very brave. ❤
Thank you for the podcast and for sharing, and congratulations on your courage.
Hoping for a better world
There is still young Indian man missing in Australia who was in love with Arab girl. It’s been over a decade no body has seen him or heard from him. 😢
I had an Egyptian Ex-Muslim GF she told me EVERYTHING, the abuse and the low morals can get much more brutal.. This Karen didn't touch the tip of the iceberg.. the stories I heard secondhand scared me for life ngl...
Can you ask your ex GF to contact Yasmine Mohammed and tell her story?
Have you ever watched “Love is Blind Habibi”? It’s all on display there. I couldn’t believe they allowed it to be aired. Total expose of the “religion of peace “
Great interview, thank you! Glad Karen was able to get out of that situation & decided to tell her story. Hopefully the girls she trained remember some of what she taught them🥊! Glad she was able to help her friend Gita too.
Thank you both for telling this story.
Karen Hunt is a bad ass. Thank you for having her.
Also, Yasmine's hair looks especially lovely today!
Orphi marriage - I had no idea. Thank you.
A requirement for the tolerance the West insists upon to work is the same goodwill from both sides.
Liberal westerners spout this "accepting, honoring" spiel, but when they are applying it to a culture that sees the opposite as the desired stance, it does NOT make them appear "virtuous" or "tolerant", but instead the liberals appear weak and gullible. It is a total delusion (and very much like those same people judge people in a society 100 years ago, by the mores of today, as if that has ANY validity. Kind of like seeing ridiculous people protesting with signs saying "Queers for Palestine", totally clueless that if they actually went there and made it known that they were homosexual, they would be literally put to death. Just totally ignorant.
so much insight and wisdom. Thank you for sharing.
At this point I’m doubtful the current people of Egypt is the same population as the ancient Egyptian people.
Current Egyptians are Arabs. The original Egyptians are the remnants of the Coptic Christians in Egypt.
Egyptians were never Arabic.
Prior to the Islamic Arabic conquest, Egypt was a predominantly Christian country, with a significant majority of the population identifying as Christian. The Coptic Christians, who are the remnants of the original Egyptian population, made up a majority of the population.
Christians: The majority of the population, with estimates suggesting upward of around 95% of Egyptians identified as Christian.
Pagans: Although Christianity was the dominant religion, paganism continued to exist in some form, with some estimates suggesting around 1-5% of the population practiced paganism.
Jews: A small Jewish population existed in Egypt, with estimates suggesting around 1-3% of the population identified as Jewish.
The Islamic Arabic conquest had a profound impact on the demographics of Egypt. The conquest led to a significant shift in the population's religious identity, with many Egyptians converting to Islam by force over time.
This process was facilitated by the jizya tax, which was imposed on non-Muslims; making it impossible to continue living in Egypt unless the inhabitants converted to Islam. Waves of Christians & non-Muslims were forced to flee the country, or face increased Jizya tax or harsh punishment.
Today, the Coptic Christians make up only around 10-15% of Egypt's total population.
The conquest also led to the Arabisation of the Egyptian population, with Arabic becoming the dominant language and culture by around the 16th-17th Century. This process was facilitated by the influx of Arab settlers and with that, the adoption of Arabic as the language of government and commerce which differed significantly from the Christians'.
Overall, the Islamic Arabic conquest had a profound impact on the demographics of Egypt, leading to a significant shift in the population's religious identity, customs, traditions, commerce & governance, and the continuing Arabization of the country which has led to much controversy, contention & suffering throughout the past continuing to current day.
The Coptic Christian community, other Christian communities such as Greek Orthodox, Roman & Byzantine Catholic Church in Egypt & other non-Muslim communities resisted & continue to resist the Arabisation and Islamicisation of Egypt. They continue the fight to practice their faith, traditions & customs despite harsh persecution and discrimination.
Sadly, they aren’t. Life has deteriorated greatly for Egyptians and this is the result.
@@Vexx_Line_I am planning to visit Europe in 10 years and have started learning Arabic so I will be able to get around.
@@Vexx_Line_ Glad to see you know this history. I've never heard of even one incident where a Coptic Christian (or another denomination) initiated any violence against a Moslem. They know they'd be instantly killed if they did. It's very sad. There are hardly any Christians left in the Middle East.
For Muslims honour is the most important. For them every dispute is fight for honour - a matter of all or nothing. Muslims never compromise because they want everything without giving anything in return. Any dispute with Muslims is unresolvable.
I agree that’s true for many Moslem Arabs, but not the westernized ones.
I was so curious about Lions that I walked into a lion's den. How clever of me.
Love it a bit like I just wanted to test the fire…….What is it with these women that are soooo taken in. And it’s only got worst with the liberal leftists western women.
I started to listen to this story half-heartedly and was completely absorbed. Karen sounds (tawks) just like a friend of mine from 'Noo Joisey'.
Karen survived by the skin of her teeth! I'm surprised she didn't just disappear. Please proclaim this message from the rooftops!! The West is ignorant of these realities. A friend of mine married an Egyptian. They had a son. When he decided to take their son to the country to meet his family, she conceded but refused to go. I guess she was fortunate that he wanted to live in the States.
The Arab mind set is very different. Strength must be met with strength.
I went to Egypt in 1985. , a month return ticket. Low budget, backpack, sleep out on nice beaches. It was hell on earth,
Everyday. . To survive emotionally . The Police want money , or you go to the station, where you pay twice. I laugh now thinking about it. These people are in a state of devolution. . I left thinking, if the Aswan Dam burst, all of this would be gone. Good riddance.
Woah! That sounds like quite the misadventure. It's fascinating how the allure of ancient places can really attract open minded people, those who like to travel & get into adventures, those who love exploring what's left of the world's antiquities, but don't look into how that area may have changed over time; in Egypt, the change was devastating & drastic.
It's really sad since not too long ago Egypt & many other countries in that area were wonderful to visit.
So then you get there & find your trip has turned into total chaos 😩.
I can just imagine from the little bit you wrote. And the ending abt the dam LMAO!😅
Glad you were able to get the h3ll out of there. I'd love to hear more details if you're up for sharing. ✌️
Respect to this strong woman! 💪🏽
Sorry but I found it a bit odd that the guest referred to "all these women" when she herself is one of them. Marrying someone as a second wife who already has four young kids-what was she thinking? Then, to judge other women by asking, "How can they do that knowing everything?" felt hypocritical. Much of what Karen said came across as privileged and a bit out of touch, particularly the part about needing to "be strict with them." That only seemed to work because she’s an American citizen. I was glad Yasmine was able to push back on some of those points.
The only thing i agree with you is that she got away with it because she is american. The rest is cherry picking. Which makes me think you're jelouse of her strength
@@sleether4049 Well, I have never been in a relationship with a married man, as I believe it is morally wrong-particularly if one has a privilege of being a Western woman/a woman from the West. So I do think Karen's 'marrying' a man who already has a wife was morally wrong. However, I empathise with women in other parts of the world who do not have the privilege of this choice. In many countries where polygamy is legal, women are often treated as second-class citizens and conditioned to accept this status, a reality powerfully illustrated in Yasmine’s book. Given this context, I do not think it is fair for Karen, a Western woman, to pass judgment on "all these women" as she did.
In the 80’s, I read anthropology books from decades earlier about Nile Egyptian villages in the mid 1900s. Not much different, except there were no villas to fight over.
Thank you for this informative program.
When I heard you announce your last name, Hunt, I immediately thought of Dave Hunt. If he is your father, then I'd say you got "the truth and nothing but the truth" as he was a wonderful apologist and evangelist. I've learned so much from him! Thank you guys for sharing your experiences with the viewers. I will probably never go to the Middle East so it's good to hear others stories.
Yes Dave Hunt is my father. 😊
@ how wonderful. I really enjoyed your testimony. You sure have an interesting life story!
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This guy your father??
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Amazing interview!!!!
I am an Egyptian man and it is hard even for a man to live in Egypt. So much corruption and ignorance. You can’t express your opinion.
wow. they really think that that villa is theirs...now imagine the 80 year response to Israel's formation...
I’m very familiar with Egypt. Families fight between themselves over inheritance. Eg. An uncle wanting. Share of their dead brothers wealth, even though the brother had a wife and grown children.
Really insightful. Thank you. I think so many in the west, especially in government, have no idea just how different the culture is in Muslim majority countries but act as though they do.
An interesting documentary you can see on you tube is My Mohammed is Different
Set in Luxor about senior foreign women in marriage with Egyptian men
Sadly, the older woman probably don't know the man has a few other wives with children & that he's trying to get in that will, access that pension or benefits, even health insurance.
This is a rare and interesting story. I had no idea this kind of villages existed. How terrible both for the foregin women that cant leave and for the girls and women that are born there. So very terrible 😢 the female mutilation...
Im a western woman and I will not be fooled and always stand up for womens rights 💪
People living in villages are normally the ones working in agriculture using little modern machinery. The government doesn’t invest in decent infrastructure.
dear Yasmin, I would love to hear your opinion about motherhood in such an area and how come they believe that they have to educate their children to believe they are not worthy
1:07:00 its like a classroom without a teacher - as soon as someone shows they are the responsible adult they start rethinking what they are doing, and if that adult is not really respectable they'll ignore him too
White ppl saying ‘we oppressed you that’s why you are so unevolved’ is so condescending. As is what an Italian girl said to me - ‘we western women know about our oppression unlike the women in the east who are oppressed.’ How condescending to the millions of people who fight daily in places like iran. Do you think those people don’t know they are oppressed? Millions of Iranian women would beg to differ
It boggles the mind indeed.
Well it's true for the majority. Minority does understand. Look at iran. Women are at the forefront of making sure other women comply with the dress code and oppressive policies.
I used to listen to Dave Hunt's podcasts on the Berean Call and I have a number of his books. It's truly amazing to hear his daughter Karen's story. It just goes to show how naiive westerners are to Islam and the law of the jungle in the middle east!
1:21:15 No, October 7th happened.
I've just come back from a visit to Algeria and Tunisia and the guides and drivers were great and our experiences with the people in Algeria were beautiful. But our Tunisian guide was very upset by his fellows' laziness because the country is a garbage tip. They also protected us from scams etc.
Some of our group got scammed with sob stories.
A friend worked in Public Works in Constantine, Algeria for several years. He told me about trash everywhere. (He kept his wife & daughter in France). Eventually he quit and went back to France. He has a TERRIBLE opinion about Algerians and Islam....
What wasn’t said is that the majority of people living in non-oil rich countries are poor. And getting poorer every day. In Egypt the elites control the government, military and most big businesses. The money doesn’t trickle down to the masses, even worse in small towns and villages. This is often where the agriculture is the main occupation. Their agricultural methods lack modern equipment etc. this doesn’t help the mentality for change. Egyptians also thrive on conspiracy theories. Critical thinking is not taught. Neither is long term planning.
Wow that was awesome ❤❤❤
I found her a bit difficult to follow. She was married to someone else when she “married “ this Egyptian guy? Why does she not go into her courtship with the first guy she married?
She cut out details?
1:05:42 such a good point!
Really interesting
Wow is me! Well said Yasmeen. I love you. I had an Egyptian friend of mine tell me her father would kill her if she had sex outside of marriage. Almost sounding proud of it. This was an educated woman. The stories I can tell you.
@38.50...her name was Geeta??
Thanks.
Funny. I was a cinephile. I adored cinema. For the past few years that has changed. I don't know exactly why. But I feel like I've seen all the good films. Netflix is 99% rubbish. Wokeratis have destroyed culture etc. However with some of your conversations it really feels like the good old days ☺
Listening to your guest I was thinking about how girls and females in the west , because of political correctness, aren't being educated about how muslims view women and particularly non muslim women. It's like we're willing to sacrifice females to maintain virtue signalling.
Yhis week in new ross, wexford, ireland, an 8 year old girl was killed in her house trying to protect her mother who was being stabbed. The child was stabbed and died. The investigation is ongoing so it's all 'alleged' but the mother was an irish convert to islam, the male involved was ' middle eastern' , 'kuwaiti' (depends on source), he tried to kill himself after and both him and the mother are still in hospital.
Kids aren't stabbed often here so it's a real shock for people.
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I don’t understand this woman. How can she be so gullible at the mature age after an abusive relationship!
She didn’t have to become a second wife to start a boxing club. It seems she is still confused.
I don't think she married him to start a boxing club, she married him because she was very sexually attracted and she couldn't just have an affair without falling foul of the culture/law there, so effectively she got married to have an affair, that's what she said.... I guess she chose to believe his wife was OK with it and maybe she was if it kept him off her case!
It’s too complex to explain here, but these dynamics exist for women in the west also - just a different form. It has taken me 70 years to understand the way to deal with men in the west is also to be very strong and not too agreeable. Martial arts should be mandatory for girls to back up the needed assertiveness. This planet is a challenge for women everywhere.
Yes and it's so annoying that men who dress as women want to use women's spaces and compete against women in sports. They want all the advantages of being a woman without any of the disadvantages. How long did women have to fight for what we have in the West and these men walz in expecting women to give way to them?
It doesn’t sound like you have any problem being disagreable.
I think earlier is better. We can always stop at the station grab a coffee or something if we desperate
Married an israeli american (born in usa grew up there). He promised me my family his family heceould never move back. We went for a one year trip he immediately started living as a bachelor in every way. only spoke to me in front of his friends. His family same. My children and i were allowed to leave (at my widowed mothers expense) during the Hussein declaration of war. I was told the israeli bachelor husband is(?) The norm
This makes no sense. Born where? Went back where?
@liannebenn2097 he was born in NYC USA we returned to his town in Israel after 13 years in the USA for a one year visit
Who is Karen Hunt's father?
Dave Hunt - she mentioned his name toward the end and said he is on RUclips I think.
Dave Hunt was an excellent Bible teacher, especially regarding Bible prophecy.
I’m catching up listening and watching 💪🏽😉. Glamorizing 90 day Fiancée propaganda to the Westerners!
In 1914 the Egyptians were scamming the Australian soldiers and Egyptians had a bad reputation among the troops. They are not Christians, no ten commandments.
For a contract to be applicable in Egypt it would have to be written according to the laws of the land, did your daughter study Egyptian law to be able to write this contract you speak of? An American contract and an Egyptian contract are extremely different.
A lot of what you are saying does not sound correct, lest I say you are lying.
Wow.
So, just as a side-note, I'm curious about the comment you make, Karen, that "It would be better if someone from Luxor was teaching those little Egyptian girls boxing, than you, as a westerner., but there was no one there to do it." My question is "Why?" Why do you think you need to justify teaching them by adding that disclaimer? Why would that somehow be better? And, if you teach little girls there, doesn't that make it possible that then one of them would go on in years to come, to continue teaching little girls there? I just don't get the liberal POV that sharing knowledge with others is somehow superior if it comes from someone that "looks like them" or is the same nationality, or gender or whatever.
That aside, the video and the story are fascinating. And I love the addition of Yasmine's POV and comments to Karen's. Just an excellent show.
Why am I not sold on the nobility of ancient Egyptians? Oh I’m a Jew, that’s right.
What has ancient Egypt to do with this?
@ Joseph saved ancient Egypt from starvation and then ancient Egyptians enslaved the Jews. I tend to believe this story for a couple of reasons.
@hpyrkh3 But this about is today's Islam which has taken over all the area and is also taking over the West. The distant history of Egypt is less relevant. If you go that far back Judaism was hardly a bed of roses for women. Women were property in most societies until recent times.
@ I’m not arguing what you are saying, I just have a suspicion that that part of the world didn’t see enlightenment ever.
Btw, all things are relative. Compared to now, Jewish women of ancient times and medieval times were oppressed. But, compared to Christianity and Islam and many other civilizations, Judaism was like feminism for women. I have very specific examples why I’m saying this.
@hpyrkh3 Everything is relative but as a woman I still wouldn't wish to live by the rules of any super religious group. Men always add rules to keep women in 'their place'. Islam at its most basic is super controlling and women lose their voices and what we would consider basic rights. It is inhumane at its core by Western standards.
FYI. Women's boxing is only exercise. Lemon please understand this if you're going to take a martial art it pretty much has to be Jiu-Jitsu all the other ones are for exercise and maybe defend against other women and small sickly men but a regular healthy Man a striking defense is not going to really work. A weapon God especially is really the best..... I'm sure women can do a lot of things that men can do but please believe there is a difference in physical strength.
West meets east
West women who are not of Muslim descent don't really have an excuse anymore and I am really starting to lose sympathy for them. I know it sounds harsh but that is the same reason why America is losing wars all of these hearts and minds and feel sorry for people who go against the grain because they feel this and believe that and then it's up to us to Care is kind of hard yes we can still care about them but 0 we also have to educate them I just don't understand them marrying these dudes from those countries and definitely not following them over there
I was enjoying Karen's sharing so much.... but then she says she is a "proud zio"..... so disappointing
You really had an adventure. Not real a danger, otherwise you would not be able to keep coming back. Even now I see you still underestimate the situation you got yourself into. They could still do you in! Be aware. Sorry to say that.
what is the point of haing this Karen on?
This women is nuts. You have had better guests. Very egocentric 😅
I have to take a break from this channel because i am slowly but surely becoming more racist with each video
Islam is not a race. Write it out 10000000 times.
I lived under "shariah law" in Egypt and I was fine lol
Do you want a medal or something? 🙄
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂good one 🤣
That wasn’t a respectful comment. I may sound arrogant but I know more about Egypt than Karen and Jasmine. 40 years and marrying/ divorcing an Egyptian man. I saw and endured lots of disgusting things. I’m still in touch with my ex and relatives and friends there. Karen is obsessed with Sharia law in Egypt which does NOT control all aspects of law. Every Moslem country picks snd chooses what aspects and degree Sharia is used. In most cases it’s family law - marriage, divorce, inheritance, children, etc. I survived living in Egypt. I’m 76 and well educated. And no I’m it looking for a medal. Egyptian society is very strained with very low wages and very high cost of living. Worse than ever. Egyptians are famous for not leaving much on the table when negotiating. They’ve never learned win-win. I suggest you educate yourself more on the Middle East.
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All Shariah is dangerous since it's only a stay to incrementally introduce more & it could change in an instant.
That's great you were able to pull off what you did. However, no one gets to choose where they're born, thus millions of girls & women ARE subject to those higher levels of Shsriah.
Your lived experiences are your own, others have their story, their lived experiences to tell.
I don't understand why she didn't help the foreign women get out.. and she seems obsessed with villas... I don't know, I'm starting to feel a bit negative toward your guest... I don't entirely know why.
She did! Didn’t you hear she said she contacted the next woman and told her her story and contacted the others after that and then started unravelling their operation?
How do you help all these random women exactly?
How exactly is one woman supposed to change the beliefs of an entire population? Do you think she has the resources to purchase them their own private island or something? She did what she could, when she could by setting up a program to help the girls empower themselves by learning to box & helping her friend Gita.
If you want to help start up your own show, publish your own news letter or article, educate yourself & debate, start your own charity or work with other efforts geared toward women.
I’ve lived in Egypt, married an Egyptian. And Egypt and the Middle East has been in my life for 40 years. As a foreigner especially living in smaller towns and dealing with village mindsets should be very careful trying to introduce change . The females in my Egyptian family were all cut and their grandmother was married at age 13. It was my role to question their decisions. I didn’t want yo cause problems. I saw lots of ugly things there. My younger sister in law couldn’t get pregnant so her first two husbands divorced here and put her clothes and furniture out on the street to come get. Luckily she married another man who had a child from a previous married. He didn’t want more children and I don’t think he supported the child he had.
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Stop spamming this comment.
This rambling video sounds like someone speaking to her therapist only we are not getting paid to listen.
You must have been watching a different video and posted on this one by mistake, lol.
I know MuCH more about Egypt gained from a marriage then divorce there, plus 40 years of it being a major part of my life. So much context and clarity wasn’t covered. It would need more time and better flow.
Those men's behaviour is totally contrary to the Islamic teachings. Karen seems to be an intelligent woman, I'm surprised she didn't research the religion before attaching those scammers to Islam. Scammers are in many developing countries with different religions.
You obviously did not read the Koran
Unfortunately, you can't distinguish between what really Islam teaches ant the cultural Islam. The fact is Egypt never applied shariah Law, it has been secular system , I challenge both of you to bring forward the shariah law. Stop your spewing poisons, misrepresentation and misinformation of Islam.
Truth denier
Real Is**m is the doctrine found in qran and sunna. It implies slavery, djihad, child 'marriage', death for apostates, FGM, dhimmitude and islmc superiourity.
Read "The Reliance of The Traveler", "The Hidayah" & The Critical Quran by Saint Murad. Educate yourself.
??? I looked up Sharush law by country. Egypt applies z Sharush law for some aspects of law especially family matters. Like marriage, divorce, polygamy, inheritance. Etc. Unless you’re a female from an upper class family and you have a tight marriage contract , a women who is divorced gets virtually nothing from the divorce. He keeps the home while she provided all the furniture which is now wrecked because it’s poorly made. Plus it’s hard for a single/ divorced women with of without children to afford and be allowed to rent an apartment o their own. I know much about Egypt as it’s been in my life for 40 years.
@Vexx_Line_ critical coran is by Robert Spencer (never be arrogant, we are all here to learn) St. Murad presents a non-islmic coran.
This is such a powerful episode! 🥹🥲🤍