@ they definitely can let touch fouls on jump shots go. I don’t know if that would have enough of an impact and you can’t let too much contact go uncalled on jump shots because there are legit safety issues (the Zaza Pachulia foul on Kawhi type).
@@sffan10 that wasn’t a touch foul, that’s a flagrant for attempting to injure. Im talking about the hands touch during follow through, also falling on a non foul jumpers should be techs.
@@user-ye9yt2mv2n yeah I know. I’m just saying allowing those touch fouls to go uncalled won’t have a big enough effect on making 3P shots more difficult.
People don't have a problem with teams shooting threes. What they have a problem with is that the NBA made the entire game about spacing and pace, because they thought it would lead to better TV product due to more dunks from all the space and pace teams play with. However, they pushed so hard on that that it allowed teams to start shooting a lot of threes, because the game is so spaced and played with a much higher pace threes are just wide open. You don't hate threes, you hate that the game "feels" less intense because every offense is quick and finishes the offense in 10 seconds, when teams used to use 20 seconds. Real basketball fans have not changed their view on the game because it evolved
No its better now. Im sick of ole heads complaining with their fake revisionist history when u can watch the games online. The game was crowded clunky and slow. Yall overrate the defense by speaking on a few teams and want bball to devolve instead of evolve. Take of those rose gold glasses. The 80s was full of crackhead and player drinking beers in half time
@@chris.t.3892000s early 2010s was a way more enjoyable product the game is robotic now as 3 point spamming is the meta it’s the most effective way to win but boring to watch.
@tyresejones3535 i dnt think 3s are the problem. Yea they shoot more 3s but it make sense. The problem is imo is there is too many games which destroys effort...load management with stars....no standards or consequences for stars. I think if they improve the schedule. Have less games so each game can mean something and players are fresh all yr and allow to recover. All teams dnt focus on the 3 and they just dnt hesitate if they are open. In the nfl ppl hate boring games and like high scoring games nobody wants to go back to slow paced games. Ppl just have revisionist history of most eras
Three-point shots are EXCITING…when they are made. It’s the misses that take you out of the game. Watching players constantly miss shots, shooting brick after brick has always been boring. Remember when watching high school games felt about as exciting as watching paint dry. To cut down on the attempts, especially by bad shooters charge a one-point penalty for missed three-point shots. Increase risk/reward.
Slam dunks should = 3pts. It would make big men significant again. Strategically, it would make the game more interesting. If your team can make it all the way to the rim and dunk the ball, I feel that's at least as significant an achievement against the defense as making the shot from long distance.
Several people are mentioning moving the 3 point back. Maybe moving it forward will help make the game more interesting. It could make an emphasis on the midrange game. But that will only create an issue with bloated scoring. Not sure I’ve heard a singular great solution yet from anyone
Facts trev. Also we see the three ball so much players dont even practice other things like ball handling plays run. Layups. Teams dont even do drills anymore they just do 5v5s now and 3 on 3s but the fast break drill is essentially gone and we see players struggle to run fast breaks they rather shoot 3s. They dont work on finishing anymore or mid range jumpers or free throws . All we see is players say"i worked on my 3 point shot over the summer" even coaches like coach bud is telling nurkic to shoot 3s and he cant shoot 3s and his shooting has costed the suns games but how can we tell players any different when thier own coaches are setting them up to fail. Even JJ wants AD to shoot more 3s and ham wanted him to shoot 5-6 3s a game and that's never been ads game which is the cause for his offensive decline
Back in my day andrew bynum would get benched and yelled at by phil jackson if he even pump faked a 3 nowadays coaches say well eventually youre gonna make it big guy keep shooting
pass a rule where you can only score 5 3s in a quarter and it only counts as 2 after that. it would make using the 3 more strategic. there are those interactive floors available now where they could just turn off the 3 point line after they've hit the allowed amount. 5 per quarter is about where i'd start but we can move back from there if it's still too many.
Think about the type of games that fans say, "man, that was a good game" to. It is to the old style 90's grinded out defensive close games. Those are gone. They wanted to make the game more international so Stern adapted the NBA to Euro type, less physical, more shooting, hence the top players being Euro players. But they shot themselves in the foot by making it less defensive and less physical for the sake of attracting international players. Bring back the physicality and the rules that make it slower like hand checking. Only thing is Luka will not be the face of the NBA.
There are about 50 things that the NBA should change prior to changing the actual product. How about start games at consistent times of the day? How about you start games on time? How about my team not playing different days of the weeks every week? How about you fine players more when they don't try at the All Star game? How about every team plays on a specific day of the week like they do in the NFL? Everything the NBA does now is blame the game. Its too fast, they shoot too many threes, we killed the mid range shot. Its like Demar Derozen doesn't exist in these people's minds. The game isn't the problem its how you schedule and promote games
The only solution that I see is having the first 40 of attempts from three count, after 40 each shot is two pointer. It would make the game really interesting, teams would have to save their three-point attempts towards the end of the game
I'd go even further and limit free throw attempts a quarter. Sh*t is so boring seeing certain players deliberately foul baiting knowing the ref will bail them out
I don't think there should be any red tape. They just need to make it harder to score 3s, stop rewarding players with free throws for initiating contact. Move the line back and loosen up defensive rules.
I’ma say what I think it’s going on and I’m trying to be as politically correct as possible the players they don’t want to be seen as one big spectacle that’s why they don’t dunk or do layups some of the best players were great dunkers from Jordan to Kobe to Sean Kemp to Vince Carter so once again, I believe these woke players don’t wanna be seen as one big spectacle
So what people can play how they want. Skills get better you shoot more. So what you gonna tell them.not to shoot threes after 25 attempts. Stop them from
Too much reward to just takes threes. While driving the paint is being penalized. Lebron takes fouls a lot of times driving down the lane but no fouls are being called. Too much contact being allowed in the paint while in the perimeter are getting foul calls on a minimal contact.
Bad idea. What if a team is down 3 with 2 seconds left they aren't gonna even have a chance to win because the other team is just gonna deliberately foul them on their shot since they wont get 3 free throws
make the 3 points worth 2 points. that’s the only way. if teams still think shooting from way out for 50 times is the best way then so be it. every shots worth the same points now.
Every shot being worth 2 points is stupid in my opinion. The 3 point shot is necessary what if a team is down 3 with 3 seconds left well now they have no shot to tie the game. They just need to find a way to limit them
The tv ratings are low for today's standard of rating. Tv isnt a staple and this important thing anymore lets say pre 2010 where sports programs were getting 5 to 10 plus million viewers a game on national tv and double that in the playoffs. Tv isnt that important to people anymore like siblings fighting over the tv remote days or it being one big tv in the house and thats it. Technology has evolved where you can watch tv on different devices not just a tv. Cable is slowly dying also. Streaming services are on the rise so shooting 3s isnt just the main reasons people aren't interested in the game anymore.
I’m confused why Steph Curry is being blamed for this when he has the best tv ratings of any player in the last 10 years. The thumbnail should have a picture of all the other guys who aren’t Steph Curry who take those shots, because they’re the problem
This whole notion that 3s are better than 2s are foolish. The scores are not significantly higher as a result because you have guys that have no business taking 3s shooting them. Guys, like curry, absolutely should be taking them. Guys like wemby should be rim protectors but are being asked to shoot 3s. We are at the point where they have tried to change the rules to encourage more baskets within the line that defenses can't play defense, and yet we still see more 3s taken. No hand checks. You practically can't touch a player without a foul call now, and still, the demand is for 3s. Honestly, that's where the game has become unwatchable at times is because of the amount of foul calls within a game. And it's not evem that, but the refs are hell best on keeping their calls that video review isn't even worth trying. I dont think it's death by three it's the combination of a few things that are making people tune out. There's times you watch a game, and you would swear up and down the game is rigged because of how biased some refs are. And it's not even with teams you would normally watch that you see this, so it's not like you have a bias to either team playing. I'll be honest, there are times when I just change the channel because I get frustrated watching the product.
I think people are being overly dramatic. Viewership is down across the board on everything.(that’s a different convo) But all the teams you highlighted have no issues with viewership. GS, BOS, DEN are still highly viewed. Just move the line back 12inches and start developing the Big man instead of the Stretch 4/5!! Problem solved. YOUR WELCOME!!😊
People are so stupid about this issue. The best offensive rating team in the NBA is the Knicks, which do not shoot many threes. Denver who is 5th in the west, doesn't shoot many threes. Its not a three point shooting problem
Maybe the change is to legalize hand checking specifically above the 3P line.
Take out all the touch fouls for jump shooters they recently implemented
@ they definitely can let touch fouls on jump shots go. I don’t know if that would have enough of an impact and you can’t let too much contact go uncalled on jump shots because there are legit safety issues (the Zaza Pachulia foul on Kawhi type).
@@sffan10 that wasn’t a touch foul, that’s a flagrant for attempting to injure. Im talking about the hands touch during follow through, also falling on a non foul jumpers should be techs.
@@user-ye9yt2mv2n yeah I know. I’m just saying allowing those touch fouls to go uncalled won’t have a big enough effect on making 3P shots more difficult.
if you allow more physical defense against marginally make able shots, especially outside the 3pt line .. that could change the dynamics
People don't have a problem with teams shooting threes. What they have a problem with is that the NBA made the entire game about spacing and pace, because they thought it would lead to better TV product due to more dunks from all the space and pace teams play with. However, they pushed so hard on that that it allowed teams to start shooting a lot of threes, because the game is so spaced and played with a much higher pace threes are just wide open. You don't hate threes, you hate that the game "feels" less intense because every offense is quick and finishes the offense in 10 seconds, when teams used to use 20 seconds. Real basketball fans have not changed their view on the game because it evolved
Should loosen up defensive rules. 3 in the key never made sense to me.
Make it illegal to set screens above the free throw line, problem solved.
I have been saying THE SAME THING for years now!!! I've been a fan since the 80s and this version of the NBA is by far the worst product.
It's better than the 80s bball. The game evolved.
Go back to the 80s then as basketball is far superior in almost all ways now don’t be hating cos you’re old
No its better now. Im sick of ole heads complaining with their fake revisionist history when u can watch the games online. The game was crowded clunky and slow. Yall overrate the defense by speaking on a few teams and want bball to devolve instead of evolve. Take of those rose gold glasses. The 80s was full of crackhead and player drinking beers in half time
@@chris.t.3892000s early 2010s was a way more enjoyable product the game is robotic now as 3 point spamming is the meta it’s the most effective way to win but boring to watch.
@tyresejones3535 i dnt think 3s are the problem. Yea they shoot more 3s but it make sense. The problem is imo is there is too many games which destroys effort...load management with stars....no standards or consequences for stars. I think if they improve the schedule. Have less games so each game can mean something and players are fresh all yr and allow to recover. All teams dnt focus on the 3 and they just dnt hesitate if they are open. In the nfl ppl hate boring games and like high scoring games nobody wants to go back to slow paced games. Ppl just have revisionist history of most eras
Three-point shots are EXCITING…when they are made. It’s the misses that take you out of the game. Watching players constantly miss shots, shooting brick after brick has always been boring. Remember when watching high school games felt about as exciting as watching paint dry. To cut down on the attempts, especially by bad shooters charge a one-point penalty for missed three-point shots. Increase risk/reward.
Adam silvers fault
Bring back the 90's ...
Slam dunks should = 3pts. It would make big men significant again. Strategically, it would make the game more interesting. If your team can make it all the way to the rim and dunk the ball, I feel that's at least as significant an achievement against the defense as making the shot from long distance.
No just no
BRING BACK HAND CHECKING
All buckets are 2 points! NFL has all TDs worth 6pts.
I don’t think the officiating has been good enough to reward a change in playstyle by teams
Just extend the 3 point line and eliminate the corner 3
I never have been more disinterested with the NBA than right now.
Should move the 3 pt line back to where it was in the 90s.
Several people are mentioning moving the 3 point back. Maybe moving it forward will help make the game more interesting. It could make an emphasis on the midrange game. But that will only create an issue with bloated scoring.
Not sure I’ve heard a singular great solution yet from anyone
Bring back hand checking, take out touch fouls for jump shooters
whats crazy is even with the celtics shooting that many 3's they STILL have the same amount of freethrows as other teams.
Facts trev. Also we see the three ball so much players dont even practice other things like ball handling plays run. Layups. Teams dont even do drills anymore they just do 5v5s now and 3 on 3s but the fast break drill is essentially gone and we see players struggle to run fast breaks they rather shoot 3s. They dont work on finishing anymore or mid range jumpers or free throws . All we see is players say"i worked on my 3 point shot over the summer" even coaches like coach bud is telling nurkic to shoot 3s and he cant shoot 3s and his shooting has costed the suns games but how can we tell players any different when thier own coaches are setting them up to fail. Even JJ wants AD to shoot more 3s and ham wanted him to shoot 5-6 3s a game and that's never been ads game which is the cause for his offensive decline
Back in my day andrew bynum would get benched and yelled at by phil jackson if he even pump faked a 3 nowadays coaches say well eventually youre gonna make it big guy keep shooting
No 3 second rule for offense and defense just like fifba and hand checking above the 3 point line would game so much better
no more "Cardio and Throw".
The mini tournanment Is going to suck ... Should have the all star ... USA vs World
Limit the number of points, you can make taking 3s @ 36 . It will change strategies for when shooting 3s is most advantageous.
Bring back the hand check. Done.
Seriously ain't rocket science 😒
that wouldnt change shit lmao
pass a rule where you can only score 5 3s in a quarter and it only counts as 2 after that. it would make using the 3 more strategic. there are those interactive floors available now where they could just turn off the 3 point line after they've hit the allowed amount. 5 per quarter is about where i'd start but we can move back from there if it's still too many.
Gross
Think about the type of games that fans say, "man, that was a good game" to. It is to the old style 90's grinded out defensive close games. Those are gone. They wanted to make the game more international so Stern adapted the NBA to Euro type, less physical, more shooting, hence the top players being Euro players. But they shot themselves in the foot by making it less defensive and less physical for the sake of attracting international players. Bring back the physicality and the rules that make it slower like hand checking. Only thing is Luka will not be the face of the NBA.
There are about 50 things that the NBA should change prior to changing the actual product. How about start games at consistent times of the day? How about you start games on time? How about my team not playing different days of the weeks every week? How about you fine players more when they don't try at the All Star game? How about every team plays on a specific day of the week like they do in the NFL? Everything the NBA does now is blame the game. Its too fast, they shoot too many threes, we killed the mid range shot. Its like Demar Derozen doesn't exist in these people's minds. The game isn't the problem its how you schedule and promote games
Have certain spots light up on the floor you get 4 to 5 points mid range dunks do it every 2/4
What about a 3pt lamp! after x amount of 3pters made the lamp comes on and all attempts only count as 2pters unless fouled
Gross.
It was a matter of time to catch up
The only solution that I see is having the first 40 of attempts from three count, after 40 each shot is two pointer. It would make the game really interesting, teams would have to save their three-point attempts towards the end of the game
I'd go even further and limit free throw attempts a quarter. Sh*t is so boring seeing certain players deliberately foul baiting knowing the ref will bail them out
I don't think there should be any red tape. They just need to make it harder to score 3s, stop rewarding players with free throws for initiating contact.
Move the line back and loosen up defensive rules.
I’ma say what I think it’s going on and I’m trying to be as politically correct as possible the players they don’t want to be seen as one big spectacle that’s why they don’t dunk or do layups some of the best players were great dunkers from Jordan to Kobe to Sean Kemp to Vince Carter so once again, I believe these woke players don’t wanna be seen as one big spectacle
Remove the 3 point line. Make it old school
Silver is part of the problem. He’s been horrible for the NBA.
So what people can play how they want. Skills get better you shoot more. So what you gonna tell them.not to shoot threes after 25 attempts. Stop them from
I think it would have needed something like the painted area but it's too late now.
We want natural basketball.
Too much reward to just takes threes. While driving the paint is being penalized. Lebron takes fouls a lot of times driving down the lane but no fouls are being called.
Too much contact being allowed in the paint while in the perimeter are getting foul calls on a minimal contact.
Simple - move the 3 pt line back. Make the court a bit wider to facilitate this. Math changes.
Most courts can’t do that. Would be a massive project to physically wide in the courts out. Although you could make the corner three worth two points.
Take away the three free throws for fouling someone taking a three point shot. Reduce it back to two points.
Bad idea. What if a team is down 3 with 2 seconds left they aren't gonna even have a chance to win because the other team is just gonna deliberately foul them on their shot since they wont get 3 free throws
make the 3 points worth 2 points. that’s the only way. if teams still think shooting from way out for 50 times is the best way then so be it. every shots worth the same points now.
Great idea just get rid of the three point line.
Every shot being worth 2 points is stupid in my opinion. The 3 point shot is necessary what if a team is down 3 with 3 seconds left well now they have no shot to tie the game. They just need to find a way to limit them
@@Slapshot544what if they’re down by 6 points? I guess we need a 6 point shot too?
The tv ratings are low for today's standard of rating. Tv isnt a staple and this important thing anymore lets say pre 2010 where sports programs were getting 5 to 10 plus million viewers a game on national tv and double that in the playoffs. Tv isnt that important to people anymore like siblings fighting over the tv remote days or it being one big tv in the house and thats it. Technology has evolved where you can watch tv on different devices not just a tv. Cable is slowly dying also. Streaming services are on the rise so shooting 3s isnt just the main reasons people aren't interested in the game anymore.
I’m confused why Steph Curry is being blamed for this when he has the best tv ratings of any player in the last 10 years.
The thumbnail should have a picture of all the other guys who aren’t Steph Curry who take those shots, because they’re the problem
This whole notion that 3s are better than 2s are foolish. The scores are not significantly higher as a result because you have guys that have no business taking 3s shooting them. Guys, like curry, absolutely should be taking them. Guys like wemby should be rim protectors but are being asked to shoot 3s. We are at the point where they have tried to change the rules to encourage more baskets within the line that defenses can't play defense, and yet we still see more 3s taken. No hand checks. You practically can't touch a player without a foul call now, and still, the demand is for 3s. Honestly, that's where the game has become unwatchable at times is because of the amount of foul calls within a game. And it's not evem that, but the refs are hell best on keeping their calls that video review isn't even worth trying. I dont think it's death by three it's the combination of a few things that are making people tune out. There's times you watch a game, and you would swear up and down the game is rigged because of how biased some refs are. And it's not even with teams you would normally watch that you see this, so it's not like you have a bias to either team playing. I'll be honest, there are times when I just change the channel because I get frustrated watching the product.
Ref cooking is worst. Brithers and company great cooks
So tell me, why we don't need the bigs
This is the stupidest argument. Smh.
Make dunks 3points
what are they gonna do forbid 3 point shots? mfs are making them from the logo
No, I think just limiting them to 15-20 attempts per game, would force teams to be more strategic in its usage. That in itself would fix the issue.
My solution is every game has a max of 30 points by 3 after that every shot only counts for 2 points
no
Die by DEI
F the math!
Just makes 2s worth 3 and 3s worth 4.
Honestly not a bad idea.
I think people are being overly dramatic. Viewership is down across the board on everything.(that’s a different convo) But all the teams you highlighted have no issues with viewership. GS, BOS, DEN are still highly viewed. Just move the line back 12inches and start developing the Big man instead of the Stretch 4/5!! Problem solved. YOUR WELCOME!!😊
One way to discourage 3 point shooting is to reduce the ring diameter by a few millimeters.
"There's too many threes" - also the most important game this year ended with a 1980s scoring. Make it make sense
Bring back Bill Lambier
They should limit the number of 3’s a team can take
People are so stupid about this issue. The best offensive rating team in the NBA is the Knicks, which do not shoot many threes. Denver who is 5th in the west, doesn't shoot many threes. Its not a three point shooting problem
Limit the number of three’s per quarter. Any made beyond limit count as a two
shrink the rim