Nice, clear presentation. I think my concern would be how much room is left for your head inside the helmet with all those wires. I've just fitted the Freecom 4x and there's no room for anything else under the cheekpads.
Yes, that is the "Gopro mixing the audio how it sees fit" But when you use the Raw audio it uses different sterio tracks. The music was actually quit fitting too. lol. FastyRides
Great Kevin. Glad it helped you out. I have just 3D printed a box out to stick on the back of the helemet, so all the wires are going in that. hahaha Fasty
Hey Fasty. Great little video. Tried this myself and found volumes such a pain plus wires unplugging etc. Love to see how you fitted all these thick wires on your helmet. I have another solution if you have deep pockets that is to buy another cardo and run the speaker into the gopro. 2 cardos one does all the mic work and team sounds and other just for Gopro audio. Basically deletes all the wires you just mentioned. Would require a cardo on both sides of your helmet. Anyway great video all the best
Hi Tony. That is a great idea, 2 cardos, 1 doing all the recording, you could actually keep that in your pocket. I know Crazylegsonabike has 2 cardos. I will forward your message onto him. The 2 fat cables. 1 went under a cheek pad. the other I had to dremel out a channel in the foam and pressed it into it. I know its not a great solution but the only one I could find. Thanks for your comment too. FastRides
This is exactly what I’m looking for. Have you had any experience with the sound quality from other Cardo units when you’re in a group? That’s my main requirement for wanting this setup. Nice to see a fellow Brit, Sub’d, from Manchester.
Hi mate. So the sound quality is only will be as good as the card unit will transmit to each other. And sadly its not the best. What does really help is the mic set up in other peoples helmets. make sure its right in front of there mouths. What part of Manchester, I lived in Altrincham for many years. Fasty
@@FastyRides I’m in Bury, so not exactly Manchester. Got a big trip in 27 days around Europe and want to record my Dad and Brother who are coming with. 😊
it is mate. you have to stuff them in any little place you can. I ended up cutting a little channel out of the foam inside to fit some of the connectors. Fasty
@@FastyRides 😬😬😬 I'm not sure I'm up for cutting the foam protecting my noggin! Mind you, I've already attached a camera and a Comms system that are going to catch on something and twist my neck in a slide...
@@NooBiker Thats why I cut a little channel out. its on about 8mm x 60mm long. and about 10mm deep. its not much at all. Depending on your helmet, you could stuff some of them under the cheek pad.
Followed this exactly, have a hero 9 and 10 and this doesn't seem to work on the 10 for some strange reason... settings are exactly the same! Thanks for putting this together though!
I tried stuffing all the cables into the helmet first off. And as they would fit, I used a dremell to grind out 2 smallish channels in the foam. Then taped them over. But as my helmet is on the snug side anyway I decided to 3D print a small box which I then velcro taped to the back of my helmet. There is a post on my instagram showing the box. Hope this helps. FastyRides
I think with the Senas, there is an output on the top already. But not sure as I've never owned one. If not, then the principles like you say will be the same. FastyRides
the mess of cables is absolutely fucking absurd, but this video is super solid content, even including how you handle things with your editing wares. good content sir.
Thanks buddy, I have a Christmas project which replaces the 2 cables with one, which fits inside your helmet. I will do a video on it when I get it made. I am half way there already, If you look on my instagram I have a image of a small black box that replaces the cables. So a cable version will be quite easy. Fasty
Yes mate, thanks for the advice you gave me before. The sound quality is really good. I am really impressed with the music. And I think the comms is pretty good. just when you have 4 people on comms it sometimes gets a bit much for a video. hahahaha
Excellent, thank you for that! We are going on a 5 day duo trip in April and I really wanted to grab the intercom audio, that's perfect timing and great explanations! 😁 subscribed 😉✌️
I connect my Action camera, Drift Innovation 4K Ghost, to an additional Car do Packtalk unit. No Mic on this unit. The camera can be mounted off the helmet, on a soft mount. That and in camera stabilizatiin do a good job. The Cardo unit mounted according to audio cable length and best location. The result is that whole if group conversations etc are captured on the drift, all the same quality audio if range is adhered to. A second Drift Ghost set as a clone of the "Master" unit is mounted separately and that captures a different image and the ambient noise. Use a sharp noise like a flapper board to align audio during edit and then footage, both video and audio can be managed to get a very good outcome.
Great video, I don’t have a Cardo but have the Sena 30K. Does the Cardo not have side tone? With Sena you can enable side tone for the Sena mic to push through your speakers. This would eliminate the splitter going into the GoPro and just run the splitter on the speaker side into the GoPro mic? Not sure if that would work but potentially could.
Weird question for everyone who has done this (great video BTW).. Do you still use the cardo mic to communicate with other headset user... Or does the new mic you plugged in somehow work with the cardo even tho it's plugged into the #gopro? Hope That made sense what I'm aaking
Great 👍🏻 instruction video. Music sounds great, be good to hear when you are talking to another Cardo as a few in our group did exactly the same setup but the Cardo audio from another rider sounds like they are in a tin can, audio was very poor but music was clean. Be good to see if used different leads to them and it sounds better. I binned off the audio of the talking as it was too poor quality.
Yes I agree, the audio from other Cardos is a little poor. Also if there is a big group connected its kind of a donk fest, you cant tell who's talking. making it a nightmare for editing. I think 4 people max is fine. Also I think it comes down to other peoples helmets too, i.e if there is a lot of wind noise because they have there visor cracked open. I might have a play around in Davinci, see if I can improve the audio of connected cardos. Thanks mate. FastyRides
Interesting vid thank you. I've previously tried recording my wife's audio via the Cardo and to be honest the quality just isn't there. There is also the issue of loosing all those cables and connectors inside the helmet. I'm personally a fan of the Rode wireless Go2 system for wireless duel vlog to one camera and prefer to add my music in the edit where I can cut it to suit.
the cables are an issue. and they are bulky. I managed to stuff one under the cheek pad and the other across the top of the helmet. The audio can be a little weird but I usually edit that in Davinci to make it a little more clearer. I am a fan of the rode go but they are very expensive And i dont think It would work for me with having 4 riders in my group of friends. When there is 2 I can see how it works a lot better than the cable from cardo system. Thanks for commenting mate. FastyRides
for the music , but you can reference it while editing , maybe some part of the vid u wanna edit in a higher quality music or have an accuracy of what's going on while you were recording as well as phone audio such as maps or whatever it is , just to show what was going on that interrupted you speaking instead of cutting the scene if thats waht you want
I tell you all my secrets in the video. equipment I use and all. But if you follow me on instagram or FB, you will see Ive made a little box that replaces the 2 adaptor cables, which are a pain to fit into your helmet. The box is slightly larger than a 50p coin. Fasty-Rides
@@philvfilms well to be honest your limited to gopro, as they are the only action cam that has RAW audio. Thats what separates the 2 tracks and makes editing much easier
Great breakdown of the setup man, thank you! I've been searching for someone to do this as I'm in the market of replacing my old Sena 10c and seriously looking at Cardo Packtalk Black. However as I expected, there's the jumble of wires one needs to contend with while doing this to combine the best video of the GoPro and audio of the Cardo. Which is really where my Sena 10c shines. The biggest downside to the Sena (even with the latest iteration, the Evo) really is the lack of image stabilization. That's why I might hold off just a bit when the brand new 50c gets launched as it's been reported by Bike world to finally have that missing piece which imho will definitely be a game changer
Btw I forgot to ask you, is your mic from the Cardo hooked up as well? I'm thinking yes because otherwise you won't be able to answer calls or talk to Cardo so essentially you' re using 2 mics. Am I correct?
i have a question on the gopor's audio, how does the gopro not pick up the outside noise? is it because it now "prioritizes" the microphone sound, my next question is how would you cut out the wind noise to hear the exhaust.
Hi, answer to your first question is, depends on how sensitive your microphone is, i.e My HAMA mic is really low sensitive so it mostly pics up my voice. But a purple panda mic would here a lot more wind noise and engine note. Also it depends on your helmet, is it a noisy helmet or a premium helmet that is known for being quite. Audio is very hard to master, but once you have it dialed in, it makes vlogging a lot more easier. Fasty
hmmm besides that long cable this might just work.... but waaaaay too much wires in this configuration plus at best you are guessing on the mic levels which can't be adjust in post as they are on the same audio track.
So if I understand this correctly if I don’t use the “breakout cable” and just use a splitter in its place then all my audio with be on one track in post production? Awesome video and very helpful thanks
Would this work with the Cardo Spirit? I have the go pro hero 8 with the Media adapter so far just wondering if the it would work with the older cardo Thank you
@@FastyRides when music plays - 7:34 Paul M. also commented at bottom the same thing, also voice prompts for SatNav all on left channel. Your Voice is evenly distributed L/R
I am imagining if you wanted a permanent cable doing the same things you could eliminate all the bulky plug in fittings by soldering the pertinent connections - would be tedious but could eliminate a lot of bulk
@@fredflintstone1375 ah right yes i see what you guys mean now. its when im riding the bike. This is because I must have been using the standard audio at this point in the video. Also to note here that the music is coming out of both speakers in my helmet. But if you goto 11:50 in the video you can clearly here the music coming from both ears. I can see why thats a little confusing to people now. Sorry about that. FastyRides.
Well done, and great to see how you handled this in the editor. I went a more expensive route and used another Cardo unit with Mesh. No microphone and speak connection plugged into the action camera. it captures all conversations music etc. One advantage is the camera can be mounted off the helmet. disadvantages are cost and charging the unit.
Hi Duncan - this is a great idea - albeit more expensive. If I understand correctly, a 2nd Cardo is on your helmet (as part of the mesh connected to Cardo#1 and others), and the headphone Left & Right outputs of Cardo #2 are connected directly to GoPro MIC in (say on a Hero 10 Media Mod). And I assume there is no need for any microphone to be connected to Cardo #2 (that is your voice is via the Cardo #1 microphone and 'piped' to Cardo #2 via BT mesh). Can you please confirm if my understanding is correct. Also did you need to use a 2 channel (L & R) attenuator between Cardo #2 headphone output to the GoPro MIC input ? or did you find the GoPro automatic gain controller handled things OK (ie: no clipping of audio) ? I can see another benefit being no need for any post editing of the sound recorded and no need for RAW setting to be enabled. Looking forward to your reply. Thanks
@@sritter Good day Steve, I have the extra (No.2) Cardo Packtalk mounted off the helmet, in my case in one of the glove boxes with a charging cable connection if required. I had made a "table" over the dash with a slide on/off mount and used the slide on helmet mount, also had the camera mounted on this but reflections of the windscreen a problem even with Circular Polarizing Filter. The Camera is now mounted forward with a clamp going into near the mirror mount. The Cameras I am using are Drift Innovation 4K+. Be aware, if you power the Cardo unit, you need to turn it on AFTER turning on the power (in my case the ignition). If it is already on and then the power turned on, the unit will be powered off and thus not part of the "Mesh". There is not microphone plugged into the "interface" Cardo. In fact not desirable as this would feed back into the Mesh. The outlet to the speaker from Cardo is via a M/M 3.5mm TPS cable plugs into the split adapter cable from Drift. This has a long tail to USB A - Male (Power supply) and a mono Audio cable - Female. The plug to the camera is USB mini. five wires, +ve, -ve, two data and one continuity. At the point of connection between Cardo Packtalk and the Cable I have a stereo splitter and into that I also plug a small microphone, place the microphone out of the air flow but to pick up some ambient background noise (engine etc). As a word of caution - don't hard wire a stereo circuit(s) to mono. The stereo is two discrete circuits and connection together in such a manner will damage them. TPS plugs handle this as combined return but separate audio inputs The Audio inputs to the Camera are one supply from the Cardo - conversations and any other sound that is being transmitted via Cardo, and the Microphone for ambient. control the Volume of the converssation etc using the roller volume control on the cardo. I put this on my helmet and check that it is acceptable but turning on the radio (recorded music from say the phone is OK if it has been "Normalized". If not some is louder than others and you may get a poor result of you conversations etc. The Microphone, - just make sure it is not too near the motor, or too far away - you may need to does some test runs. Overall the results I am getting are excellent. I use the audio direct, only need to now cut both video and audio to get a good result. I use Edius and multicam set up, that makes the first cut very quick and easy. Then the only other audio requirement if you add voice over, music etc is to normalize prior to outputting, I do this near the end of the edit. The Drift can be fitted with the larger battery and this give a very good run time, from memory about 5 hours on 4K and about 7.5hours on 1080. I use 1080 as that is the best i can get onto disc - Blu-ray but I am exploring M disc, it can record 4K, but only to 50GB (double layer) from what I've learnt so far. I hope this is not too mixed up and can be understood. I had experimented with other possibilities, but this one is simple and does a great job. But the extra mesh unit and enjoy. Good luck
@@duncangatland6021 Hi Duncan - thanks for the detailed reply - greatly appreciated and a great tip on permanent power to Cardo. I can see you have a different camera configuration (using Drift camera). Would you mind reviewing the below with your experience to make sure my understanding is correct. CONFIGURATION PROPOSED Primary Cardo Packtalk Bold unit with Cardo microphone and speakers / earphones connected for normal Cardo functions like group talk and Bluetooth audio to phone etc .. totally standard installation. Secondary (2nd) Cardo Packtalk Bold unit for connection to the GoPro Hero 10 or similar. This 2nd Cardo to NOT have a microphone connected. It will have its speaker output (a TRS socket) connected via a TRS Male to TRS Male cable plugged directly into the GoPro Hero 10 Media Mod audio input (TRS female). The left speaker channel of 2nd Cardo is effectively connected to the left microphone channel of the GoPro. Similarly right speaker channel of 2nd Cardo is effectively connected to the right microphone channel of the GoPro. Using this configuration, both the primary and secondary Cardo’s are connected to the same mesh (along with other riders) and all audio recorded via the GoPro is sourced from the speaker output of the 2nd Cardo acting as an interface device. The volume of the stereo audio input into the GoPro can be regulated / fine tuned if needed (in case of clipping etc …) by adjusting the roller volume adjustment on 2nd Cardo. OTHER QUESTIONS I have not tried yet, but do you believe the roller volume adjustment on the 2nd Cardo is sufficient and will eliminate any need for a ‘Line In to Microphone Attenuator’ between secondary Cardo and GoPro ? Can you double confirm there is no need for another microphone for this configuration (as I noted in your configuration you added an extra mic) - I was a little confused on that ? Using this direct approach I assume that the GoPro audio settings don’t need to be changed to RAW Audio ? (that is, the audio channel included as part of the GoPro MP4 video will have the stereo audio sourced via the GoPro 10 Media Mod audio input). Thanks again - looking forward to your reply. Steve
@@sritter Steve, Without to know the operation of Go-Pro cf. Drift, and assuming that the audio in is the same for both, then this looks great. You may need to run a couple of trials with it to get the audio volume as you would like. but the volume control on the second Cardo works very well for my set up. Plus in Edius I can play with the audio from this one camera and increase or decrease all at once or where I want to in the time line. All other Audio as one wishes. Prior to printing to DVD I normalize in Edius, then check again that all is acceptable for volume I placed the second microphone via a splitter only to bring in some ambient noise, that is motorbike, or other traffic as the Cardo microphone mounted within the helmet is excellent for conversations and cancels this "external" noise out. This is not require to record the conversation. If there is another camera, this can be the ambient source... I some time speak with friends using Skype, WhatsApp, phone, etc and they have no idea I'm on the bike. On Drift there is no possibility to connect to RAW. My understanding is that RAW is uncompressed Video/Audio or both if the Go-Pro software is good, you should have very acceptable audio - and in your case Stereo cf. Mono. I trust this answered your questions. I'm sure it will work and you will be very happy with it, perhaps the exception being now picture and audio to consider when cutting video :)
Have you turned "Raw audio" on in your gopro? Also if your using an external battery sometimes the gopro will not record audio. This doesn't happen often. Fasty
Hi just a quick question, I saw your setup and was impressed I used your links provided in description and brought all the cables The only thing is it didn't work for me seems like the breakout cables didn't do the trick for me, I'm not sure if the breakout cable is faulty, basically I tested the breakout cables with headphones if I stick the headphones in the red sound comes from the left ear if I stick the headphones in black sound still comes from the left now my question is that cable faulty or is this how they operate with headphones?
The only problem are 2 microphones... If that could be splitted easily it would be good. Otherwise I think it's better to connect another cardo unit or any other BT intercom for that matter. However the quality could vary
You might be able to buy another adaptor for the Cardo mic, not sure I've never looked into it. I have however changed my set up since this video. I use a second mic next to my headphone and that works just as well, plus you dont need a lot of cables. just a splitter. Fasty-Rides
@@FastyRides Hey, I just read your setup. What microphone are you using now and does your new setup work in high speeds (e.g. highway use)? Thank you :) :)
@@suzenalpen if you watch my last few videos you will have a sample of my set up. Nothing has changed since this video. The mic I use is a HAMA VoIP microphone from Amazon. And it costs 7 pound. Fasty
@@FastyRides So you still have all these cables right? I was thinking of just placing a small microphone next to one of the speakers. You still have to use a splitter in order to have two microphones but with this way you have much less cables and parts that could go wrong
@@suzenalpen no mate. I made a printed circuit board that replaced the 2 cables. Which stuck to the back of my helmet. It works the same but much neater than stuffing all them cables in my helmet. You can use a mic next to the speaker as well, but I've never tried it.
Hama mic for £7 on Amazon. I've made a box now that replaces the 2 wires in this video. I will be selling them soon. Just in the final testing phase. There is images of it on my Instagram account.
Hiya, sorry I missed that one. here it is: www.amazon.co.uk/Extension-PChero-Headphone-Control-Computer/dp/B08T1YW1JK/ref=sr_1_3?crid=20ZCZRQ40I68J&dchild=1&keywords=inline+volume+control+for+3.5mm+headphones&qid=1634548509&qsid=262-4002503-8431053&sprefix=in+line+volume+control%2Caps%2C154&sr=8-3&sres=B08T1YW1JK%2CB00Y1MYSYW%2CB00XDKKQ9E%2CB07XX1YYK6%2CB08M6DL1MW%2CB06Y4XNK8L%2CB08H866S75%2CB07XX3H29V%2CB08MBX4P2Z%2CB01KMJ9DQK%2CB08NT9JTQT%2CB08H8FVX3S%2CB08NPFYFBS%2CB07GVMCTM3%2CB07XX2MB82%2CB07XX1SP3K&srpt=ELECTRONIC_CABLE
Any way to use a cardo scala to record in bluetooth, capturing the sound with something like a Smartphone ? I tried but there is saturation everytime I start the bike. Seem's like the microphone software that set up the gain and lower some frequency work only when I go into call or using the device paired to another one for intercom.
I honestly wouldn't have a clue with Bluetooth. I stick with the old fashioned way with wires and connectors. I have designed a little box that I will be selling very soon that replaces the 2 cables (pictures on my instagram). I will be releasing a video tomorrow of a friend and I on a ride out and I am using the new box. It works just as well as the wires. Fasty
@@FastyRides thank's for your reply. I even contacted cardo but the reply from their sad wasn't professionnal at all. They don't build this device with motovlog in mind. Unlike Sena apparently. I don't want any wire on the helmet, and I don't want any media mod or things that add weight… and cost money. So for now I will continue my investigations !
Do you find the SD card fills up quicker if you have say four pals with you and it's recording all cardo chatter? I use a 128gb but think a 256 might be better.
With this set up. Will the cardo replay on one speaker and the mic play on the other? I just set mine up this way and my voice one plays on one speaker.
Would it be possible to record the audio from the Cardo mic with an app in your phone at the same time (if it is connected through bluetooth while playing music) as it is used to talk with your group? Then import that recorded audio together with the video file into the software? What do you think?
That would require some software hacking I think. I am making a little box that replaces the 2 cables at the minute. They will be available for sale soon. Keep an eye out on my channel for a video soon. Fasy
Great explanation. So the cardo speakers appear on the Left, mic on the Right. Does this then compromise the audio in helmet, making is mono? I guess the adopters link left and right channels.
so if you plug the splitter into the cardo and the breakout cable into the Gopro, yes the audio will one in each ear, but if you select Audio Raw and choose low or medium, then it will be all in stereo. Fasty-Rides
@@FastyRides Thanks for the speedy reply. On your video its not coming across as stereo, music in the left, voice in the right. Good to know you have since sorted that. Not a bad things, allows you to filter left and right in post anyway. thanks!!
I’m a little confused here. If the breakout cable from the GoPro signifies microphone input versus speaker output, Why would you say it does not matter which goes where?
The reason it doesn't matter, is because the GoPro input is only a stereo audio input. The splitter gives you access to the left and right channel. You can use them interchangeably.
@@FastyRides i see i see , wow ! your setup is awesome you even got a seperte volume control so you could adjust the audio independently for the speakers in the helmet
@@jianxiongRaven yes, this is because I wear ear protection so my cardo is set to full volume which the gopro will record at full volume, which cause clipping. So the in line volume control is to bring the level down so there is no clipping. Fasty
Can you not just use one mic, then split it to the cardo and gopro with a FMM audio splitte? Also cut and solder some 3.5 jack plugs to shorten the wires or just solder some joints together and reduce jack plug joints.
yes I think you could, depends if the mics are powered or not. which I dont think they are. Not really an issue for me as I made a box thats velcroed to the back of my helmet. Im going to make a video about it if your interested. FastyRides
Trust me it isnt, the EQ on the right shows a stereo signal. Ive used this for many of my vlogs since this video. With RAW audio it is stereo. If you dont use RAW audio, music comes from one side and the voice from the other.
Hi, I have the same set-up of cables as yours but I am having issues that while there is sound or music coming from my Cardo my GoPro H9 doesn't record my voice coming from the mic on the 2nd input. What do you think is the problem?
I had this issue not so long ago. I replaced the splitter cable from mymic to go pro. If that doesnt work you can try swapping over the 2 inputs on the splitter. FastyRides
@@wojtekbaszak846 from Cardo I use a splitter - one going to JBL speakers for my ears, one going to generic earphones which is directed to the mic going to GPH9 - so the sounds recorded by my GPH9 is purely mechanical and not electronic anymore.
@@FastyRides i did a week ago or something. Must have missed something then. Let me watch it again. A thing i have is the breathing sound. Somehow you’ll keep hearing it on the mic.
@@johnschotz1614 If you are talking about the audio track that is with the video in gopro, then yes this is correct. If you have imported the AUDIO track only which gopro makes when you have gopro raw on, then you have the breakout cable and splitter cable the wrong way round. Hope this helps, FastyRides
@@FastyRides thanks for the quick response. The cables are correctly connected. The colored one is connected to the GoPro. Will put some more time in it tomorrow. Also forst try with the bike. Looking forward to see the results and how many sound we get from the exhaust/engine on the mic.
Hi, awesome video, really helped me out getting my helmet setup. Just a quick question. How do I get .wav files of my GoPro. It just gives me the .mp4. Maybe someone can help me out. Stay healthy and best wishes :)
Ive just read you meassage again. If you use 2 splitters you will get the effect you have. the breakout brings the 2 audio sources together and into one connector. But you have to use RAW audio in the gopro, so you have control of the 2 audio sources separately
I found a much better solution to all the cables that are needed in the approach used here in this video. You can replace three cables with one. The splitter, jumper and attenuator with one cable. It is called "LIne to Mic, attenuator with headphone monitor". I tried to find this cable on the EU Amazon but couldn't. It is available here in the US. I bought this cable and installed my Cardo and now only have two cables (the Sterio separator and the new cable). It works great with less the mess. AND - for more fun I added a wireless mic transmitter and attached to my helmet (very small unit right next to my Cardo) and the receiver is with the mic adapter and my Hero 10 out in front of my windshield for great clutter free (no handlebar or windshield) video. This is one slick setup. Enjoy Fasty Rides. And here is the link: www.amazon.com/dp/B004VIOZSK?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
Ah right great. Well I have actually now made a little box myself which replaces the 2 cables in the video. I am hopefully going to be selling them soon. Fasty
My Mrs is going to hate you when she sees all the stuff I bought today 😂😂😂
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Dude, you are a.w.e.s.o.m.e!!! Your setup is just magnificent
God bless You my Friend!!!!!!! Thank You for this settings!!!!! I looking for something like this!!!!!
Nice, clear presentation. I think my concern would be how much room is left for your head inside the helmet with all those wires. I've just fitted the Freecom 4x and there's no room for anything else under the cheekpads.
Yer you have to figure out a way of housing all the wires. I used a 3d printed box for the back of the helmet.
excellent video, thanks bro!
Thank you, Glad you found to be of use. Fasty-Rides
My left ear enjoyed the music.
Yes, that is the "Gopro mixing the audio how it sees fit" But when you use the Raw audio it uses different sterio tracks. The music was actually quit fitting too. lol. FastyRides
Very informative video just what I needed. 🙏👌☝️👍
Thanks brother, Fasty-rides
Thanks Mate !, Used your links, Followed the video!, Great Audio quality from my ride yesterday!.👌
Great Kevin. Glad it helped you out. I have just 3D printed a box out to stick on the back of the helemet, so all the wires are going in that. hahaha Fasty
Dam genius 👏 🤘🏼💥🤘🏼
Thank you
Ordered. Two lots of each. Cheers matey.
Wowww..great!!! good instructions...the voice very clear..👍👍👍👍👍Nice video💯💯💯..keep it up bro...thanks bro
Thank you very much for your kind comment. Fasty
great video here mukka just order that thus so I can have the audio when out with the lads on tour
great work mukka
Cheers pal.
Fantastic Fasty. Thanks for the explanation. I'm doing it!
Cheers dude. glad you enjoyed it. It is worth doing. even for general vlogs. You can over lay music live.
The best and easiest vid to understand. Cheers mate
Thanks mate, glad you found it useful. FastyRides
Hey Fasty. Great little video. Tried this myself and found volumes such a pain plus wires unplugging etc. Love to see how you fitted all these thick wires on your helmet.
I have another solution if you have deep pockets that is to buy another cardo and run the speaker into the gopro. 2 cardos one does all the mic work and team sounds and other just for Gopro audio. Basically deletes all the wires you just mentioned. Would require a cardo on both sides of your helmet. Anyway great video all the best
Hi Tony. That is a great idea, 2 cardos, 1 doing all the recording, you could actually keep that in your pocket. I know Crazylegsonabike has 2 cardos. I will forward your message onto him. The 2 fat cables. 1 went under a cheek pad. the other I had to dremel out a channel in the foam and pressed it into it. I know its not a great solution but the only one I could find. Thanks for your comment too. FastRides
@@FastyRides good job matey. Keep it up 👍🏻👍🏻
Nice video mate i have the same set up and it was tested on the Motourev Elan Valley Tour it worked well
Yes it does work well. I got the idea from Tojjer29 to be fair. I just thought I would put my spin on it. FastyRides
This is exactly what I’m looking for. Have you had any experience with the sound quality from other Cardo units when you’re in a group? That’s my main requirement for wanting this setup. Nice to see a fellow Brit, Sub’d, from Manchester.
Hi mate. So the sound quality is only will be as good as the card unit will transmit to each other. And sadly its not the best. What does really help is the mic set up in other peoples helmets. make sure its right in front of there mouths. What part of Manchester, I lived in Altrincham for many years. Fasty
@@FastyRides I’m in Bury, so not exactly Manchester. Got a big trip in 27 days around Europe and want to record my Dad and Brother who are coming with. 😊
@@DrummerOnTwoWheels this set up will be perfect for you then. Use raw audio though, so you can edit each side of the chat
So you also have the Cardo microphone inside your helmet?
yes, if you want your friends to hear you in the comes. Fasty Rides
Thank you 🙏🏻 for your video but I having issue of static noise in my system
Maybe you have one of the wires the wrong way round. Fasty
Great stuff. I'm saving it to one of my play lists. Seems like a lot of cables, in the helmet, though.
Great tutorial!
it is mate. you have to stuff them in any little place you can. I ended up cutting a little channel out of the foam inside to fit some of the connectors. Fasty
@@FastyRides 😬😬😬 I'm not sure I'm up for cutting the foam protecting my noggin! Mind you, I've already attached a camera and a Comms system that are going to catch on something and twist my neck in a slide...
@@NooBiker Thats why I cut a little channel out. its on about 8mm x 60mm long. and about 10mm deep. its not much at all. Depending on your helmet, you could stuff some of them under the cheek pad.
Great video and explanation!
Thank you so much!
No worries buddy, glad you found it of use. Fasty-Rides
Followed this exactly, have a hero 9 and 10 and this doesn't seem to work on the 10 for some strange reason... settings are exactly the same! Thanks for putting this together though!
it should still work on the ten as my friend has his set up like this. make sure that ALL the connectors are the 2 ring verity.
Great vlog mate, used the links and ordered the cables. Thanks again mate
Good stuff and thank you. Fasty rides
Would be great so see how you have fitted everything into your helmet because that cable connection to the boom mic looks serious short.
I tried stuffing all the cables into the helmet first off. And as they would fit, I used a dremell to grind out 2 smallish channels in the foam. Then taped them over. But as my helmet is on the snug side anyway I decided to 3D print a small box which I then velcro taped to the back of my helmet. There is a post on my instagram showing the box. Hope this helps. FastyRides
great vid mate and full of info. im currently using an old sena but hopefully the principles are the same.
I think with the Senas, there is an output on the top already. But not sure as I've never owned one. If not, then the principles like you say will be the same. FastyRides
@Howie 702 motovlogs or separate microphone like Ive had to do. FastyRides
why doesnt this video get more views ,
see alot motovloggers could use this help though haha
I dont think its something people search for to be honest. But if it helps someone out then its served its purpose. Fasty
@@FastyRides haha 👍
awesome video just starting to document my rides. Is it possible to send the link for the Insta 350 mount
www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B011769YUM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
the mess of cables is absolutely fucking absurd, but this video is super solid content, even including how you handle things with your editing wares. good content sir.
Thanks buddy, I have a Christmas project which replaces the 2 cables with one, which fits inside your helmet. I will do a video on it when I get it made. I am half way there already, If you look on my instagram I have a image of a small black box that replaces the cables. So a cable version will be quite easy. Fasty
Great vid thanks
Ya got it sorted then 👍
Sounds good mate
Yes mate, thanks for the advice you gave me before. The sound quality is really good. I am really impressed with the music. And I think the comms is pretty good. just when you have 4 people on comms it sometimes gets a bit much for a video. hahahaha
@@FastyRides no probs bud , glad to help 👍
Is there an adapter cable that switches the Packtalk microfone connector to a P2?
My intention is to use the Packtalk microfone to connect GoPro.
Im not too sure about that, you could always cut the wire and splice into it.
Excellent, thank you for that! We are going on a 5 day duo trip in April and I really wanted to grab the intercom audio, that's perfect timing and great explanations! 😁 subscribed 😉✌️
No worries bother. enjoy your trip. Fasty-Rides
I connect my Action camera, Drift Innovation 4K Ghost, to an additional Car do Packtalk unit. No Mic on this unit. The camera can be mounted off the helmet, on a soft mount. That and in camera stabilizatiin do a good job. The Cardo unit mounted according to audio cable length and best location. The result is that whole if group conversations etc are captured on the drift, all the same quality audio if range is adhered to. A second Drift Ghost set as a clone of the "Master" unit is mounted separately and that captures a different image and the ambient noise. Use a sharp noise like a flapper board to align audio during edit and then footage, both video and audio can be managed to get a very good outcome.
My intercom system doesn’t use 3.5mm jacks :( 😢 they use a tiny proprietary connector… ugh
Sods law mate.
Great video, I don’t have a Cardo but have the Sena 30K. Does the Cardo not have side tone? With Sena you can enable side tone for the Sena mic to push through your speakers. This would eliminate the splitter going into the GoPro and just run the splitter on the speaker side into the GoPro mic? Not sure if that would work but potentially could.
I would have to get my hands on one to try mate. Thanks for the comment faaty
Weird question for everyone who has done this (great video BTW).. Do you still use the cardo mic to communicate with other headset user... Or does the new mic you plugged in somehow work with the cardo even tho it's plugged into the #gopro? Hope That made sense what I'm aaking
Thank you. yes you still have top use the cardo mic as well as the gopro mic. Fasty
Hi do you still connect the microphone from the cardo as well as the one for the GoPro? Great vid thanks
yes mate, you need one mic for the cardo and one mic for the gopro. Fasty
Great 👍🏻 instruction video. Music sounds great, be good to hear when you are talking to another Cardo as a few in our group did exactly the same setup but the Cardo audio from another rider sounds like they are in a tin can, audio was very poor but music was clean. Be good to see if used different leads to them and it sounds better. I binned off the audio of the talking as it was too poor quality.
Yes I agree, the audio from other Cardos is a little poor. Also if there is a big group connected its kind of a donk fest, you cant tell who's talking. making it a nightmare for editing. I think 4 people max is fine. Also I think it comes down to other peoples helmets too, i.e if there is a lot of wind noise because they have there visor cracked open. I might have a play around in Davinci, see if I can improve the audio of connected cardos. Thanks mate. FastyRides
Great video man thanks!
Thanks buddy
Interesting vid thank you. I've previously tried recording my wife's audio via the Cardo and to be honest the quality just isn't there. There is also the issue of loosing all those cables and connectors inside the helmet.
I'm personally a fan of the Rode wireless Go2 system for wireless duel vlog to one camera and prefer to add my music in the edit where I can cut it to suit.
the cables are an issue. and they are bulky. I managed to stuff one under the cheek pad and the other across the top of the helmet. The audio can be a little weird but I usually edit that in Davinci to make it a little more clearer. I am a fan of the rode go but they are very expensive And i dont think It would work for me with having 4 riders in my group of friends. When there is 2 I can see how it works a lot better than the cable from cardo system. Thanks for commenting mate. FastyRides
for the music , but you can reference it while editing , maybe some part of the vid u wanna edit in a higher quality music or have an accuracy of what's going on while you were recording as well as phone audio such as maps or whatever it is , just to show what was going on that interrupted you speaking instead of cutting the scene if thats waht you want
Great explanation pal 👍🏼
Thank you. FastyRides
Never mind the cardo, what are you using to get that clean voice sound on the bike! Very interesting
I tell you all my secrets in the video. equipment I use and all. But if you follow me on instagram or FB, you will see Ive made a little box that replaces the 2 adaptor cables, which are a pain to fit into your helmet. The box is slightly larger than a 50p coin. Fasty-Rides
@@FastyRides thank you. I work as a videographer for many people and need a setup I can adapt for different peoples helmets on the day. It’s so hard
@@philvfilms well to be honest your limited to gopro, as they are the only action cam that has RAW audio. Thats what separates the 2 tracks and makes editing much easier
@@FastyRides I’ve used a zoom h1n before but was more keen on mic type and placement
@@philvfilms oh, my mic is a £7 amazon HAMA mic and placed right infront of my mouth, in the helmet.
Hi Fasty, could you get all them wiggly wires in your helmet? What’s the box on’t back of thee lid?
That's what the box is for mate. It there is a better way of doing it. Use a small mic next to the ear piece. It works just as well.
@@FastyRides Thought so mate. Will have a look into it.
Please share the link of the stick mount of the insta 360 which you are using here.
www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B011769YUM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Thank you Brother 🙂
Can you list what pieces you bought? I already have the Cardo Edge and GoPro Hero 11. I just need the other stuff that you mentioned
Ive listed them in the description. Fasty Rides
Great breakdown of the setup man, thank you! I've been searching for someone to do this as I'm in the market of replacing my old Sena 10c and seriously looking at Cardo Packtalk Black. However as I expected, there's the jumble of wires one needs to contend with while doing this to combine the best video of the GoPro and audio of the Cardo. Which is really where my Sena 10c shines. The biggest downside to the Sena (even with the latest iteration, the Evo) really is the lack of image stabilization. That's why I might hold off just a bit when the brand new 50c gets launched as it's been reported by Bike world to finally have that missing piece which imho will definitely be a game changer
hmm interesting, i wonder how the 50c will be. Fasty-Rides
Btw I forgot to ask you, is your mic from the Cardo hooked up as well? I'm thinking yes because otherwise you won't be able to answer calls or talk to Cardo so essentially you' re using 2 mics. Am I correct?
@@pnoyryder68 yes that is correct mate
@@FastyRides is there a way to do this with only 1 mic?
@@EhReyRey I don't know if you can, the connector for the mic to cardo is different than a usual 3.5mm jack.fasty-rides
i have a question on the gopor's audio, how does the gopro not pick up the outside noise? is it because it now "prioritizes" the microphone sound, my next question is how would you cut out the wind noise to hear the exhaust.
Hi, answer to your first question is, depends on how sensitive your microphone is, i.e My HAMA mic is really low sensitive so it mostly pics up my voice. But a purple panda mic would here a lot more wind noise and engine note. Also it depends on your helmet, is it a noisy helmet or a premium helmet that is known for being quite. Audio is very hard to master, but once you have it dialed in, it makes vlogging a lot more easier. Fasty
hmmm besides that long cable this might just work.... but waaaaay too much wires in this configuration plus at best you are guessing on the mic levels which can't be adjust in post as they are on the same audio track.
Nope, they are on separate tracks, thats why you can adjust the volume in post production. Fasty
If you can adjust the volume of the music when you go to edit, why have the inline volume controller?
Just to help stop it peaking.
So if I understand this correctly if I don’t use the “breakout cable” and just use a splitter in its place then all my audio with be on one track in post production? Awesome video and very helpful thanks
Yes that is correct. But one ear/side will have the cardo audio and the other ear/side will have you mic. Hope that helps. FastyRides
Would this work with the Cardo Spirit? I have the go pro hero 8 with the Media adapter so far just wondering if the it would work with the older cardo
Thank you
Does your GoPro have the option for raw audio, this should be in the gopros menu.
feed from Cardo (music and voice prompts were on left channel - not both Right and Left
can you give me a time stamp from the video please? of where it is coming from one side?
@@FastyRides when music plays - 7:34 Paul M. also commented at bottom the same thing, also voice prompts for SatNav all on left channel. Your Voice is evenly distributed L/R
I am imagining if you wanted a permanent cable doing the same things you could eliminate all the bulky plug in fittings by soldering the pertinent connections - would be tedious but could eliminate a lot of bulk
@@fredflintstone1375 OK I will have another listen. Thank you.
@@fredflintstone1375 ah right yes i see what you guys mean now. its when im riding the bike. This is because I must have been using the standard audio at this point in the video. Also to note here that the music is coming out of both speakers in my helmet. But if you goto 11:50 in the video you can clearly here the music coming from both ears. I can see why thats a little confusing to people now. Sorry about that. FastyRides.
Well done, and great to see how you handled this in the editor.
I went a more expensive route and used another Cardo unit with Mesh. No microphone and speak connection plugged into the action camera. it captures all conversations music etc. One advantage is the camera can be mounted off the helmet. disadvantages are cost and charging the unit.
That is actually a great idea. Although I only have one unit. Fasty Rides
Hi Duncan - this is a great idea - albeit more expensive. If I understand correctly, a 2nd Cardo is on your helmet (as part of the mesh connected to Cardo#1 and others), and the headphone Left & Right outputs of Cardo #2 are connected directly to GoPro MIC in (say on a Hero 10 Media Mod). And I assume there is no need for any microphone to be connected to Cardo #2 (that is your voice is via the Cardo #1 microphone and 'piped' to Cardo #2 via BT mesh). Can you please confirm if my understanding is correct. Also did you need to use a 2 channel (L & R) attenuator between Cardo #2 headphone output to the GoPro MIC input ? or did you find the GoPro automatic gain controller handled things OK (ie: no clipping of audio) ? I can see another benefit being no need for any post editing of the sound recorded and no need for RAW setting to be enabled. Looking forward to your reply. Thanks
@@sritter Good day Steve,
I have the extra (No.2) Cardo Packtalk mounted off the helmet, in my case in one of the glove boxes with a charging cable connection if required. I had made a "table" over the dash with a slide on/off mount and used the slide on helmet mount, also had the camera mounted on this but reflections of the windscreen a problem even with Circular Polarizing Filter. The Camera is now mounted forward with a clamp going into near the mirror mount. The Cameras I am using are Drift Innovation 4K+. Be aware, if you power the Cardo unit, you need to turn it on AFTER turning on the power (in my case the ignition). If it is already on and then the power turned on, the unit will be powered off and thus not part of the "Mesh". There is not microphone plugged into the "interface" Cardo. In fact not desirable as this would feed back into the Mesh.
The outlet to the speaker from Cardo is via a M/M 3.5mm TPS cable plugs into the split adapter cable from Drift. This has a long tail to USB A - Male (Power supply) and a mono Audio cable - Female. The plug to the camera is USB mini. five wires, +ve, -ve, two data and one continuity. At the point of connection between Cardo Packtalk and the Cable I have a stereo splitter and into that I also plug a small microphone, place the microphone out of the air flow but to pick up some ambient background noise (engine etc). As a word of caution - don't hard wire a stereo circuit(s) to mono. The stereo is two discrete circuits and connection together in such a manner will damage them. TPS plugs handle this as combined return but separate audio inputs
The Audio inputs to the Camera are one supply from the Cardo - conversations and any other sound that is being transmitted via Cardo, and the Microphone for ambient. control the Volume of the converssation etc using the roller volume control on the cardo. I put this on my helmet and check that it is acceptable but turning on the radio (recorded music from say the phone is OK if it has been "Normalized". If not some is louder than others and you may get a poor result of you conversations etc. The Microphone, - just make sure it is not too near the motor, or too far away - you may need to does some test runs.
Overall the results I am getting are excellent. I use the audio direct, only need to now cut both video and audio to get a good result. I use Edius and multicam set up, that makes the first cut very quick and easy. Then the only other audio requirement if you add voice over, music etc is to normalize prior to outputting, I do this near the end of the edit.
The Drift can be fitted with the larger battery and this give a very good run time, from memory about 5 hours on 4K and about 7.5hours on 1080. I use 1080 as that is the best i can get onto disc - Blu-ray but I am exploring M disc, it can record 4K, but only to 50GB (double layer) from what I've learnt so far.
I hope this is not too mixed up and can be understood. I had experimented with other possibilities, but this one is simple and does a great job.
But the extra mesh unit and enjoy. Good luck
@@duncangatland6021 Hi Duncan - thanks for the detailed reply - greatly appreciated and a great tip on permanent power to Cardo. I can see you have a different camera configuration (using Drift camera). Would you mind reviewing the below with your experience to make sure my understanding is correct.
CONFIGURATION PROPOSED
Primary Cardo Packtalk Bold unit with Cardo microphone and speakers / earphones connected for normal Cardo functions like group talk and Bluetooth audio to phone etc .. totally standard installation.
Secondary (2nd) Cardo Packtalk Bold unit for connection to the GoPro Hero 10 or similar. This 2nd Cardo to NOT have a microphone connected. It will have its speaker output (a TRS socket) connected via a TRS Male to TRS Male cable plugged directly into the GoPro Hero 10 Media Mod audio input (TRS female). The left speaker channel of 2nd Cardo is effectively connected to the left microphone channel of the GoPro. Similarly right speaker channel of 2nd Cardo is effectively connected to the right microphone channel of the GoPro.
Using this configuration, both the primary and secondary Cardo’s are connected to the same mesh (along with other riders) and all audio recorded via the GoPro is sourced from the speaker output of the 2nd Cardo acting as an interface device. The volume of the stereo audio input into the GoPro can be regulated / fine tuned if needed (in case of clipping etc …) by adjusting the roller volume adjustment on 2nd Cardo.
OTHER QUESTIONS
I have not tried yet, but do you believe the roller volume adjustment on the 2nd Cardo is sufficient and will eliminate any need for a ‘Line In to Microphone Attenuator’ between secondary Cardo and GoPro ?
Can you double confirm there is no need for another microphone for this configuration (as I noted in your configuration you added an extra mic) - I was a little confused on that ?
Using this direct approach I assume that the GoPro audio settings don’t need to be changed to RAW Audio ?
(that is, the audio channel included as part of the GoPro MP4 video will have the stereo audio sourced via the GoPro 10 Media Mod audio input).
Thanks again - looking forward to your reply. Steve
@@sritter Steve, Without to know the operation of Go-Pro cf. Drift, and assuming that the audio in is the same for both, then this looks great. You may need to run a couple of trials with it to get the audio volume as you would like. but the volume control on the second Cardo works very well for my set up. Plus in Edius I can play with the audio from this one camera and increase or decrease all at once or where I want to in the time line. All other Audio as one wishes. Prior to printing to DVD I normalize in Edius, then check again that all is acceptable for volume
I placed the second microphone via a splitter only to bring in some ambient noise, that is motorbike, or other traffic as the Cardo microphone mounted within the helmet is excellent for conversations and cancels this "external" noise out. This is not require to record the conversation. If there is another camera, this can be the ambient source...
I some time speak with friends using Skype, WhatsApp, phone, etc and they have no idea I'm on the bike. On Drift there is no possibility to connect to RAW. My understanding is that RAW is uncompressed Video/Audio or both if the Go-Pro software is good, you should have very acceptable audio - and in your case Stereo cf. Mono.
I trust this answered your questions. I'm sure it will work and you will be very happy with it, perhaps the exception being now picture and audio to consider when cutting video :)
Nice video! I just subbed.
Question: is the davinci software a free download. Or is it something that you have to buy?
It's totally free mate. Check the link in the description.
So I tried this set up but it doesnt record audio when im riding. it records when im stationary but once I ride.. no audio
Have you turned "Raw audio" on in your gopro? Also if your using an external battery sometimes the gopro will not record audio. This doesn't happen often. Fasty
Hi just a quick question, I saw your setup and was impressed I used your links provided in description and brought all the cables The only thing is it didn't work for me seems like the breakout cables didn't do the trick for me, I'm not sure if the breakout cable is faulty, basically I tested the breakout cables with headphones if I stick the headphones in the red sound comes from the left ear if I stick the headphones in black sound still comes from the left now my question is that cable faulty or is this how they operate with headphones?
No that is correct. That's how it should work. You need raw audio on, on the gopro
@@FastyRides Thanks man really appreciate your fast response 👍 subscribed to your channel ❤️
@@MisterManj Thank you and no worries. Fasty Rides
Is it possible to just connect the cardo and go pro via Bluetooth and use the existing mic from the cardo? Thanks
Ive never tried that. but that could work. I will give it a go. Fasty-Rides
Have you tried it out? I'd like to hear the voice only from the Cardo into gne Gopro if possible.
The only problem are 2 microphones... If that could be splitted easily it would be good. Otherwise I think it's better to connect another cardo unit or any other BT intercom for that matter. However the quality could vary
You might be able to buy another adaptor for the Cardo mic, not sure I've never looked into it. I have however changed my set up since this video. I use a second mic next to my headphone and that works just as well, plus you dont need a lot of cables. just a splitter. Fasty-Rides
@@FastyRides Hey, I just read your setup. What microphone are you using now and does your new setup work in high speeds (e.g. highway use)?
Thank you :) :)
@@suzenalpen if you watch my last few videos you will have a sample of my set up. Nothing has changed since this video. The mic I use is a HAMA VoIP microphone from Amazon. And it costs 7 pound. Fasty
@@FastyRides So you still have all these cables right? I was thinking of just placing a small microphone next to one of the speakers. You still have to use a splitter in order to have two microphones but with this way you have much less cables and parts that could go wrong
@@suzenalpen no mate. I made a printed circuit board that replaced the 2 cables. Which stuck to the back of my helmet. It works the same but much neater than stuffing all them cables in my helmet. You can use a mic next to the speaker as well, but I've never tried it.
Bloody L how good was that,Cheers Fasty ;-)
Ride Safe Mr B \m/
Glad you liked it buddy. FastyRides
If I don't use a separate mic on GoPRo instead use the inbuilt mic, will this setup still work and will GoPro still pick up outside audio?
probably not mate. Fasty
Alright mate, so I pretty much went with this set up but my mic is clipping at 70mph. Did you have any issues with this?
yes, your using the wrong mic, its far too sensitive. I recommend the HAMA mic of Amazon for £8. Looks like something you plug into a headset.
Mate that setup sounds so damn good! How did you manage to get your audio so clean? What’s your secret 🙏
Hama mic for £7 on Amazon. I've made a box now that replaces the 2 wires in this video. I will be selling them soon. Just in the final testing phase. There is images of it on my Instagram account.
@@FastyRides I had the same mic, but after getting caught out in the rain, I think the mic may have crapped out 🤦♂️
@@RollinThundervlogs yer you have to keep them dry mate for sure. Fasty
I’ve ordered all the items 👍 any links for the external volume switch?
Hiya, sorry I missed that one. here it is: www.amazon.co.uk/Extension-PChero-Headphone-Control-Computer/dp/B08T1YW1JK/ref=sr_1_3?crid=20ZCZRQ40I68J&dchild=1&keywords=inline+volume+control+for+3.5mm+headphones&qid=1634548509&qsid=262-4002503-8431053&sprefix=in+line+volume+control%2Caps%2C154&sr=8-3&sres=B08T1YW1JK%2CB00Y1MYSYW%2CB00XDKKQ9E%2CB07XX1YYK6%2CB08M6DL1MW%2CB06Y4XNK8L%2CB08H866S75%2CB07XX3H29V%2CB08MBX4P2Z%2CB01KMJ9DQK%2CB08NT9JTQT%2CB08H8FVX3S%2CB08NPFYFBS%2CB07GVMCTM3%2CB07XX2MB82%2CB07XX1SP3K&srpt=ELECTRONIC_CABLE
Great mate. Solution for all my mates who don’t have cams 👌👌👌
@@bombercountybiker2990 No worries, glad it helped out. FastRides
Is that important to buy 2 black ring, or I can buy with 3 black ring breakout cable?
It's very important, it simply won't work with 3 ring. Fasty
@@FastyRides I just bought this breakout cable, but I have music in one earbud and mic sound in the other on my video :(
@@Bystryy are you using raw audio like I said in the video. If not try that and use the tracks provided. you will have to turn them to sterio. Fasty
As your a total legend, is it possible to split a cardo and normal mic into a tascam.
Raw audio on your GoPro will do just that
Any way to use a cardo scala to record in bluetooth, capturing the sound with something like a Smartphone ? I tried but there is saturation everytime I start the bike. Seem's like the microphone software that set up the gain and lower some frequency work only when I go into call or using the device paired to another one for intercom.
I honestly wouldn't have a clue with Bluetooth. I stick with the old fashioned way with wires and connectors. I have designed a little box that I will be selling very soon that replaces the 2 cables (pictures on my instagram). I will be releasing a video tomorrow of a friend and I on a ride out and I am using the new box. It works just as well as the wires. Fasty
@@FastyRides thank's for your reply.
I even contacted cardo but the reply from their sad wasn't professionnal at all.
They don't build this device with motovlog in mind. Unlike Sena apparently.
I don't want any wire on the helmet, and I don't want any media mod or things that add weight… and cost money. So for now I will continue my investigations !
@@4sstylz let me know if you find a solution mate. Fasty
I've been looking for how to do this for a long time. Thanks. Maybe someone will design an all in one solution and market it.
Sena tried I think. Fasty-Rides
Do you find the SD card fills up quicker if you have say four pals with you and it's recording all cardo chatter? I use a 128gb but think a 256 might be better.
From a 256 I usually get about 6 hours recording.if that helps. No difference with how many people though.the file size is still the same
With this set up. Will the cardo replay on one speaker and the mic play on the other? I just set mine up this way and my voice one plays on one speaker.
If you don't use Raw audio then yes, one ear for mic and the other is the cardo. With raw audio you get separate tracks.
Do I have to do something in the editing or just use raw ?
@@jaysonschiller755 watch the last part of the video mate, that explains it better.
Would it be possible to record the audio from the Cardo mic with an app in your phone at the same time (if it is connected through bluetooth while playing music) as it is used to talk with your group? Then import that recorded audio together with the video file into the software? What do you think?
That would require some software hacking I think. I am making a little box that replaces the 2 cables at the minute. They will be available for sale soon. Keep an eye out on my channel for a video soon. Fasy
Can we record audio of pillion rider while both using Bluetooth or intercom
IF you can here it, then your gopro will pick it up.
@@FastyRides thanq so much...
Great explanation. So the cardo speakers appear on the Left, mic on the Right. Does this then compromise the audio in helmet, making is mono? I guess the adopters link left and right channels.
so if you plug the splitter into the cardo and the breakout cable into the Gopro, yes the audio will one in each ear, but if you select Audio Raw and choose low or medium, then it will be all in stereo. Fasty-Rides
@@FastyRides Thanks for the speedy reply. On your video its not coming across as stereo, music in the left, voice in the right. Good to know you have since sorted that. Not a bad things, allows you to filter left and right in post anyway. thanks!!
I’m a little confused here. If the breakout cable from the GoPro signifies microphone input versus speaker output, Why would you say it does not matter which goes where?
because it doesn't matter. if you set it up as i have it will work.
The reason it doesn't matter, is because the GoPro input is only a stereo audio input. The splitter gives you access to the left and right channel. You can use them interchangeably.
for this setup , does the audio from the mic get to the cardo for communications / phone calls ?
yes, the cardo works as it should. because it has its own mic. your not using the mic for the gopro. thats a separate mic.
@@FastyRides i see i see , wow ! your setup is awesome you even got a seperte volume control so you could adjust the audio independently for the speakers in the helmet
@@jianxiongRaven yes, this is because I wear ear protection so my cardo is set to full volume which the gopro will record at full volume, which cause clipping. So the in line volume control is to bring the level down so there is no clipping. Fasty
@@FastyRides 👍
I can use this set up with any gopro? Are you using a computer or a laptop?
As long as the gopro has raw audio. Otherwise you will have to make another audio track and reverse the left and right audio.
@@FastyRides what cardo and gopro were you using ? The sound on yiurs was clear.
@@locoocho2415GoPro hero 9 and cardo packtalk .
@@FastyRides thanks for the info 👍
we also record fellow riders intercom discussion ? right
Yes, if you can here it, then your gopro with here it too.
Can you not just use one mic, then split it to the cardo and gopro with a FMM audio splitte? Also cut and solder some 3.5 jack plugs to shorten the wires or just solder some joints together and reduce jack plug joints.
yes I think you could, depends if the mics are powered or not. which I dont think they are. Not really an issue for me as I made a box thats velcroed to the back of my helmet. Im going to make a video about it if your interested. FastyRides
Cool video thanks one thing if the cardo battery dies will audio still record
it will still record you mic, but not the cardo, as the battery is dead, so no sound will come for it. FastyRides
Thanks
I get a static noise of the mic :(
What mic do you use?
Sounds like music is only coming from the left side and not both sides
Trust me it isnt, the EQ on the right shows a stereo signal. Ive used this for many of my vlogs since this video. With RAW audio it is stereo. If you dont use RAW audio, music comes from one side and the voice from the other.
Hi, I have the same set-up of cables as yours but I am having issues that while there is sound or music coming from my Cardo my GoPro H9 doesn't record my voice coming from the mic on the 2nd input. What do you think is the problem?
I had this issue not so long ago. I replaced the splitter cable from mymic to go pro. If that doesnt work you can try swapping over the 2 inputs on the splitter. FastyRides
@@FastyRides thank you for the tip, will try that and see what happens, hopefully it will fix the issue.
I have the same problem. Have you found the solution? I have raw audio enabled and three tracks are the same.
@@wojtekbaszak846 from Cardo I use a splitter - one going to JBL speakers for my ears, one going to generic earphones which is directed to the mic going to GPH9 - so the sounds recorded by my GPH9 is purely mechanical and not electronic anymore.
Question. I did exactly that what you have done. Audio is on one side and the microphone is on the other side. Is everything mono with you or stereo??
Did you watch the video right to the end? Did you use raw audio?
@@FastyRides i did a week ago or something. Must have missed something then. Let me watch it again. A thing i have is the breathing sound. Somehow you’ll keep hearing it on the mic.
@@johnschotz1614 If you are talking about the audio track that is with the video in gopro, then yes this is correct. If you have imported the AUDIO track only which gopro makes when you have gopro raw on, then you have the breakout cable and splitter cable the wrong way round. Hope this helps, FastyRides
@@FastyRides thanks for the quick response. The cables are correctly connected. The colored one is connected to the GoPro. Will put some more time in it tomorrow. Also forst try with the bike. Looking forward to see the results and how many sound we get from the exhaust/engine on the mic.
Hi, awesome video, really helped me out getting my helmet setup. Just a quick question. How do I get .wav files of my GoPro. It just gives me the .mp4. Maybe someone can help me out.
Stay healthy and best wishes :)
in the gopro, you need to set the "Raw audio" to either low mid or high. Try each one to see which suits you best. Fasty-Rides
@@FastyRides Thank you so much also for the quick respondtime. Going to try it out asap :)
Hi, does your cardo voice activation still work with having no mic plugged directly into it? Thanks
you still have to have the cardo mic plugged in, mine was stuck in my helmet so couldn't show it.
@@FastyRides Thats great, thanks for the swift reply.
@@simonwolfendale790 no worries pal
It’s insane it’s 2022 and no one makes a comms unit that just plugs into a GoPro.
If I don't use the breakout and a spitter instead will it still work
I very much doubt it mate. FastyRides
Am trying it is only recorded cardo audio cant hear my mic audio
@@karnal1710 How have you got this set up, if your not using a splitter and breakout cables?
Ive just read you meassage again. If you use 2 splitters you will get the effect you have. the breakout brings the 2 audio sources together and into one connector. But you have to use RAW audio in the gopro, so you have control of the 2 audio sources separately
@@FastyRides ok il the break out cable is coming tomorrow il try it thanks mate
Why its not working with insta 360 one rs?
Haven't a clue mate, I don't own a rs to try
Oh because insta don't have raw audio.
I got hero 10 with media mod still not working 😕
@@lakbayofficialyt have you set it to raw audio? Is there any sound coming from it
@@FastyRides yes
raw audio off or on ?
always on pal
@@FastyRides thanks buddy
I found a much better solution to all the cables that are needed in the approach used here in this video. You can replace three cables with one. The splitter, jumper and attenuator with one cable. It is called "LIne to Mic, attenuator with headphone monitor".
I tried to find this cable on the EU Amazon but couldn't. It is available here in the US. I bought this cable and installed my Cardo and now only have two cables (the Sterio separator and the new cable). It works great with less the mess. AND - for more fun I added a wireless mic transmitter and attached to my helmet (very small unit right next to my Cardo) and the receiver is with the mic adapter and my Hero 10 out in front of my windshield for great clutter free (no handlebar or windshield) video. This is one slick setup. Enjoy Fasty Rides. And here is the link: www.amazon.com/dp/B004VIOZSK?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
Ah right great. Well I have actually now made a little box myself which replaces the 2 cables in the video. I am hopefully going to be selling them soon. Fasty
@@FastyRides when your product is released send me a message as I would like to look at what it is. Where is this little box going to be located ?
@@trekOCLVone where ever you want to fit it. there is a few images on my instagram. instagram.com/fastyrides/