Can I Do Cardio And Starting Strength?
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- Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2022
- Starting Strength Coach Grant Broggi talks about how "cardio" or "conditioning" impacts training and who should do it in between training sessions.
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Be a man and run , don’t spin
What if I dance? Can I do it on a bike?
@@bryanl2018 We can dance if we want to
We can leave your friends behind
'Cause your friends don't dance
And if they don't dance
Well, they're no friends of mine
Say, we can go where we want to
A place where they will never find
And we can act like we come
From out of this world
Leave the real one far behind
And we can dance
Or sing
We can go when we want to
Night is young and so am I
And we can dress real neat
From our hats to our feet
And surprise 'em with the victory cry
Say, we can act if we want to
If we don't, nobody will
And you can act real rude and totally removed
And I can act like an imbecile
And say, we can dance, we can dance
Everything's out of control
We can dance, we can dance
They're doing it from pole to pole
We can dance, we can dance
Everybody look at your hands
We can dance, we can dance
Everybody's taking the chance
Safety dance
Oh well, the safety dance
Ah yes, the safety dance
We can dance if we want to
We've got all your life and mine
As long as we abuse it, never gonna lose it
Everything'll work out right
I say, we can dance if we want to
We can leave your friends behind
Because your friends don't dance
And if they don't dance
Well, they're no friends of mine
I say, we can dance, we can dance
Everything's out of control
We can dance, we can dance
We're doing it from pole to pole
We can dance, we can dance
Everybody look at your hands
We can dance, we can dance
Everybody's taking the chance
Oh well, the safety dance
Ah yes, the safety dance
Oh well, the safety dance
Oh well, the safety dance
Oh yes, the safety dance
Oh, the safety dance, yeah
Well, it's the safety dance
It's the safety dance
Well, it's the safety dance
Well, it's the safety dance
Oh, it's the safety dance
Oh, it's the safety dance
To hell with running. Do a 3x8 pause squats and see what happens to your heart rate.
@@bryanl2018
We can dance if you want to. We can leave your friends behind…
Busted up feet means that I spin.
Grant, I appreciate your non-dogmatic approach to things. Full disclosure: I have been highly critical of Rippetoe's dogmatic stance on certain issues, and don't get me started on his overly-simplistic views on Olympic weightlifting. However, I don't "hate" the Starting Strength, I recognize that the program has done a lot of good for many people, and I give credit where it is due. Your views on conditioning and kettlebells are spot on. My cardio exercise of choice is rucking along hiking trails.
when you're sitting in front of a pc in front of a desk and your only traning is lifting weights then you have to do cardio
correct
Just started lifting (using Starting Strength guidance), and I swim on days off. For me, it’s an awesome recovery activity.
same here especially when the temps hit 100+ the pool feels relaxing and pleasant way to get some good full body cardio in with lap swimming!
As beginner you can,but that would not last long, different stimulation leads to different adaptions,that makes your body confused
@@caocao5858, seems like your _brain_ has taken up swimming.
@@caocao5858Bro, swimming a few laps on your off days won't kill you or cause adaptions that kill gains. Of course, if you train HARD at any activity it will limit your gains, but a light jog or swimming is fine
Cardio is so important. Nobody is saying run a mile. If ur putting on size. Then cardio is a must. Keeping ur heart healthy while putting on size is something we all need to do. I don’t run. But I walk on the treadmill with an incline. I check my blood pressure often. If ur blood pressure is healthy then more then likely ur ok
I was once in the strength/power camp almost exclusively, doing little or no cardio. But I soon realized how deconditioned I had become while playing a little pickup soccer with friends. I was winded after about 5 minutes, and was dragging my ass up and down the field for most of the game. I have remedied this by working my way up to 25 minutes of running, 4x per week at a 6-7 mph pace. I'm leaner, and have no problems keeping up with friends on the squash court, playing soccer, etc. I should have started this much sooner!
Low intensity cardio is the key to recovering faster! It also balances out extension-based strength work and improves breathing function!
Spot freaking on. Like you are my younger brother from another mother. 😎
1)of course you can do cardio on SS! We all lose track every once in a while and do 6 reps - there’s your cardio for the week.
And,
2) That ‘disappointed Ripp’ photo in the thumbnail should definitely be a meme!
Good video! I think a lot of people in the Starting Strength world are super anti-cardio or any kind of conditioning because Rippatoe is like allergic to anything but barbell training but you're def right. You can get "conditioned" pretty fast, so if you wanna be ready for your rec soccer league in the spring, you can just row/eliptical/whatever for a few weeks before and you'll be plenty ready for the season :)
Rippetoe said multiple times he runs a few miles every now and then. And never said cardio has no place in a person's fitness and training. Lots of people at SS Gyms also do cardio.
@@Francesco-cj3oi yeah, Rips point is towards people that activly wants to get stronger.
But if you've hit your personal strength goals, then by all means do whatever you like for fitness.
But also, Rippetoe on the free youtube videos is intentionally "my way or the highway" because it's a salespitch. He's alot more nuanced in his books. Not on this platform.
@@Mukation rippanuance
Barbell Prescription author and SS advocate says that HIIT cardio is best and mentions use of fitness sleds for conditioning cardio.
No he isnt? All hes stated is that getting big and strong, while doing intense cardio, is a difficult balance. Rip is a fan of sled pushes btw.
This is reasonable, no nonsense advice.
I really love to do a 3 - 4 mile ruck with a 35 lb weight vest that includes some hills.
cardio really gets in the way of the NLP. For example, if I swim rigorously, I cant deadlift the next day. Lumbar is too tired.
First! You read my mind! What I was thinking of doing after the first of the year to lean out a bit.
Better off altering your nutrition plan
Honestly I think that should be really based on the person's needs or they do cardio or not
Honestly, I think you are wrong. The heart is the most important muscle in the human body. Cardio is exercise for the heart. Why would anyone work every muscle in the body…except the heart? Cardio absolutely should be implemented into everyones exercise routine even if it’s the bare minimum of 5x30 minute sessions a week.
I’m 68 years and have been lifting steady for just about 11 months now. I lift minimum 5 and usually 6 days a week. I lift fairly heavy for 5 to 8 reps and 1 or 2 RIR. Anything over 10 reps I consider a warmup set. Cardio…I do cardio 4 times a week. 2 times each interval run (20 minutes) and a 3.2k (2mile, medium pace, about 35 minutes but trying to keep my breathing working somewhat and heart rate up.) I Never cardio on leg days. I started my exercise regime with walking, then walk/run and lost about 30 pounds. Sense then I’ve put 10 to 12 pounds of muscle back on. I don’t want to be huge, I want lean and muscular with shape. I’m 5’9” 180ish and I feel VERY healthy and happy at this weight. I look at it this way…the heart is a muscle…so, why would you work every muscle in your body…and skip your heart…the most important muscle of all!!?? 30 minutes cardio at least 4 sessions a week, 5 is better, or every day if you want! DO YOUR CARDIO BUT DON’T DO STRESSFUL CARDIO LIKE JUMPING ROPE OR MARATHONS!
The focus of SS is strength tho. On your regimen, strength gains are gonna be real limted.
Great job on the video thanks 🏋️
Next you need to make the trap bar video
I don’t like trap bars.
Nick Bare on YT. His whole thing is combining lifting and running. Not sure how long that is sustainable.
What about if you do manual labour? At 45 with 30 years of manual labour under my belt and around 15 years of lifting under my belt squatting and deadlifting smoke's my lower back and make's work tiresome
I swim, walk and do elliptical cardio but not excessive.
Jacob's Ladder!🙏👹🏋
How do you mix strength training with rucking and runs?
It’s great hearing a SSC not condemning the evils of “cardio”. Rippetoe would probably have a heart attack just thinking about it.
Mark Rippetoe throws a temper tantrum right now....
XD
CARDIO?!?!!!!!!!!??!? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Cuz a flight of stairs is like a marathon for him
What’s your advice here?
I like to hit the assault bike or throw some hands on the heavy bag for Tabata style cardio at the end of my lifts.
I used to like to run and do sprint drills. But I’m old, busted and broke. Those things hurt.
I do love the sled but most my workouts are at home and I don’t have the space to run a sled.
Thank you
P.S. you’re not doing the program! Eat more!
“ throw some hands”….. stop it
10 reps on squat or DL; 25 feet carrying a BW sandbag; lots of strength training can be cardio too.
Bravo 👌👏
3:45 terrible flash backs to Da Nang Hill at OCS.
Appropriate subject for us in the line of duty (military /1st resp) that actually has to be able to run. Or to be honest it's actually not really that often I have to run in my job in the military, rather do we walk a bit with our equipment but runnig? Naaa. Not really. However - a fair level of cardiovascular capacity is needed in order not to die from being out of breath doing that 'walking'. Try walking up a hill that takes a few minutes to finish with 40 kg on your back + gun, amo and other gear, and you'll see that both muscles And lungs will be needed for you to do that and still function when reaching the top (the enemy won't be that nice that he let's you have a 10 min breather to catch up before he starts shooting at you...)
I was just recently myself away with my job in the military doing winter-training and we ended up doing an infil of 28 hours (minus 6 hrs of rest/sleep) with skies, heavy ruck, weapon and a sled to pull filled with group-material. That was tough as hell. However it wasn't as cardiovascular demanding as one would think. It was however very muscular demandning, a weird combo of strength and strenght-endurance. But since the weight carried and pulled was sub-maximal (thankfully) to my lifts - I believe my maximal strength helped my endurance - compared to if I'd be weaker. Than the ruck would have Felt heavier than it did now. 40 kilos would've Felt heavier if my deadlift was let's say 150 kilos instead of 200+ kilos.
That being said, I think one should be as strong as possible and have 'enough' endurance. First of all for health reasons. To keep your heart in shape. And after that - enough in order to do your eventual job if you have one that requires you to have a more specific cardiovascular level. Now, in the military they do things poorly still to this day - which is both unfortunately And unneccesary with all the knowledge avaible. We do our running (wouldn't go a week without it...) that's more or less always prio ONE. And if we do another session that week it's usually something "crossfit-isch" aka circle-training. Which is also cardio in another form. Most often poorly executed and therefore useless. And if there would be a third session that week - running again. However thay won't and can't teach you how to traing for strength. They think they do by having you doing these "WODs" but we all know that's BS calling that strength.
Starting Strength is a novice program, and novices get a V02 max increase just from strength training.
Hope you enjoy your heart attack
@@dustencross357 hope you learn to understand context
@@InvisibleHotdog you mean like a bumpy floor??
Depends, do you like being alive?
Maybe a good idea to keep your heart healthy then right
SS is a good program, but I would recommend against adding 5 lbs per workout for older folks.
The Barbell Perscription is all about how to run SS for older people.
I hate cardio training and I refuse to do it.
What about my gAiNeZzZz???
Gallon if milk a day will help with that
Yeah just get fat. You know the drill.
I honestly can't believe you missed swimming. Swimming is the best shit
I HATE swimming lol not everyone can swim or like swimming, so I guess that's why it's not included.
Not everyone has access.
Not the best for hypertrophy, swimming is maybe one of the most strenuous activities you can do then you go in the gym and stimulus the muscles again. No time for recovery and the amount of volume will put you in an overtrained state
@@dustencross357 intensity, duration, addaptation
@@fk9277 I didn't say it wasn't good it's just not ideal for muscle growth. If that's not what You're into then that's ok
Wait … what? … a nuanced perspective… impossible!
Coral
Classic
If you gain enough weight simply being out of breath walking to the fridge can count as cardio. 😉
𝓅𝓇o𝓂o𝓈𝓂 😜
No! Strenght training only
Strength training is cardio . On your off days you do strength training
Strength training is in the rep range of 1-5, if you're getting winded from 5 reps then you have a bigger problem
@@dustencross357 you're no fun
@@CaptainYesz what....?????
Sure I am, just ask your mom...
@@dustencross357 spoken like a true weakling
@@TheNotimprezed lol.... Compared to you I'm a god