Miyazaki: “So team, any ideas for a DLC boss?” Some dude: “How about Cleric Beast” Miyazaki: “Uh huh?” Some dude: “But he has a HUGE health bar” Miyazaki: “Ok?” Some dude: “And all of his attacks have a HUGE aoe that one-shots you.” Miyazaki: “Uhhhh...” Some dude: “And his arena is as wide as a school hallway” Miyazaki: “...” Some dude: “But he’s on fire” Miyazaki: “Perfection”
I'm blood level. 260, 82 health points. 60 ish for both strength and stamina. Used the runes for extra 15% health and I think 5% physical damage . Also have the best armour for fire defense and he literally one shotted me in one attempt with his aoe attack. Think I'm ng+4 or 5. I've beat him before but hes seriously pissing me off this time
@@Matheus-cu8fk I feel you. I was stuck on Ludwig for about a week. (I killed Valtr by accident so was screwed). Finally bit him with a buddy who's playing the game now too. Now... Damn he and Kos are whooping my tushy and it's not even funny. But this one I hate even more that Kos in a way. Battle area isn't big, fire everywhere, the screeching, HIS LEGS FUCKING EXPLODING INTO ARMAGEDDON...
@@Black-Raptor Might have done a 'HAH SOCK IT' cry of victory when I got Platinum on the DLC and Main game earlier this week. Now I can hoont in peace in the replay.
"The red crap that goes around him" is actually a healing. He heals his broken limps. When you hit a limp enough it will get crippled and take extra damage.
I'm blood level. 260, 82 health points. 60 ish for both strength and stamina. Used the runes for extra 15% health and I think 5% physical damage . Also have the best armour for fire defense and he literally one shotted me in one attempt with his aoe attack.
Ludwig is my favorite boss in the series because he perfectly incapsulates the motto of souls: "hard but never unfair" I loved every second of his boss fight (okay maybe that's not true) his theme is amazing, it's tense, is a great arena, it has an awesome reward, and his second phase is amazing. The lore behind the boss is also epic too, and the dialogue afterwords is an nice touch. Ludwig's level of boss design is rarely seen in games, and I honestly like him more than Artorias or Ornstein and Smough (although I do love them). Then there's Laurence...
I've died to ludwig enough to figure out all his first phase moves. From then I hardly ever died to it anymore and it really made me feel like 'this is what bloodborne/dark souls is all about.' RxDoc Git Gud
LordDanko I agree even if I’m late 😂 Best boss Once you got his moves down he’s easy Just how the game should be 2nd phase was about timing instead of tryin to poise his attack to get an extra hit and get away without being harmed My favorite bloodborne song too 2nd is the moon presence 😂it’s so stupid but good Like horror movie theme song Was an easy boss tho only thing that had me scared was that thing that doesn’t allow you to heal and when he puts you down to 1 HP That’s the only thing I would be like damn I gotta be careful or I’m going to die Killed it first try tho🔥
@@TheRyuzaki1995 I feel that Kos as much damage as he does, at least is a dinamic and fun fight, this? This asshole slaps the shit out of me without the ability to dodge if he hits me first
well i just beat him after many hrs of trying. his attack has ridiculous range and u need to be precise in the dodging and positioning or else the fire will get u. i beat him on NG+ and it took everything outta me. also it was my first time fighting this boss. i found ludwig to be easier since he doesn't have elemental in his attacks where it will get u even if his claw misses.
Late reply but oh well - He’s indeed a beast (pun intended! :P) to beat, very trick also. Best way to fight him is using the Guidance rune to restore health with attacks, save BV for the second phase and from there...I have no idea. I just get lucky. Black Sky Eye or some powered up range attack is a best option. Close range fighting is...possible but difficult. You need almost PERFECT timing on I-frame rolls to avoid the AOEs and especially his hyper targeting smash attacks that deals a solid 900 damage if hit directly and often it dose.
@@INDRA027_ yesterday on my 50+ attempt I took the typical From bait...just 2 hits left to kill him, boom, that fucker catches me in his 3 hit combo. Thank you, From Software
i’m attempting both of them right now and i’ve definitely died to laurence a bunch more and got kos to 2nd phase on my first try, i was sorta thinking the same thing
Most people are under leveled when they reach Orphan of Kos. The community has collectively decided that you should be about level 120 before it’s an actual fair fight, but I was level 90 trying to kill Orphan and that was near impossible. He has sections designed to damage you unfairly, and they one shot you at the level you reach him naturally
you can easily beat the orphan by shooting him into viscerals, especially if your skill stat is high and if you have the strenght visceral attack runes, youll down him in like 5 hits. I also had bloodtinge build and chikage +10, so kind of a cheese
Austin Stroup i fought him around like 100 to 110 but i just beat him the other day and beat laurence not long after making my comment, i think i’d say orphan is a little bit harder just laurence seemed more tedious to me at least
Im seriously done with this guy. On NG+ and have been stuck for months. every time I try to beat him, I play for an hour, leave the first phase and then get my face ripped off on the second with the lunge attacks. By that point my brain is too tired to figure out when to attack and when not to. so Ive decided to just fucking give up and let this guy win. RIP. the only boss in Bloodborne I could not take down
He's just like the Cleric beast except 1000 times harder. I beat every boss in every souls game solo in new game+, ++,+++ etc and keep getting one shotted within 20 seconds by this guy.
same, i needed 50 attempts for him, but i also started the DLC while being on NG++ cuz i did platinum in regular BB before and well yea, BB gets a lot more difficult in NG + cycles than in the first playthrough :D All other bosses i did in like 3-4 attempts max. but this one here was a real test of patience and to calm the own ego to not go for more than 1 or 2 hits when he had his lava form...
it really sucks when youtubers record only their perfect fight where the boss isn't that aggressive and can bait them into doing anything. in mine he doesn't even stop attacking, the boss doesn't even go for the grab or jump. did they change the boss fight or something?
A lot of time's the bosses use different attacks depending on the distance or position you are. For example, i NEVER experience the jump because im always right at his legs.
I found the 2nd phase pretty damn easy. I would keep my distance until he puked lava and then would quickly run to his side and charge up a heavy attack. Repeat until he's dead.
This guy is such a lazy design. Just make the first boss insane with damage, range and speed. Ironically the hardest boss in the game. I've died twice more on this guy than the amount I died to bosses in the main game. Feels like cheap padding and I hate the fact that he's in the way of a rune.
Cheap design? Hardest boss? Gotta disagree with you. Obviously it's just an opinion, but he's the first cleric beast, and its Laurence. of course hes going to be super powerful. You had more trouble with Laurence than the Orphan of Kos?
its already been 3 years now and all i can do is make it to the 3rd phase when its only his torso. i hate they had to scale the dlc to whatever ng+ your in even though this is still the first playthrough the dlc.
not true at all man.. you just need to get good.. seriously bro. Lobosjr beat him on NG+7 bare fists no armor and no heals.. so anything is possible... But yeah I agree it's very fucking hard.. I'm on NG+4 and finally beat Kos after about 20+ attempts till I shamefully caved and summoned someone to help me finally killing the bastard.. Now I'm fighting Laurence right now.. I'm scared LOL!
In this boss when I lock on I can't see 90% of what's happening and if I don't lock on most of my attacks miss. Wtf am I supposed to do the only bosses remaining are him and orphan. By far he's the hardest.
This guy on NG+6 is ridiculous. I beat Orphan of Cos in 3 tries and Lady Maria in 2, but I'm stuck on this ass-flame for several days. He has about 50,000HP and can one shot you with several different moves.
The fire is the only thing that makes him challenging in the first place. It's such a cheap and lazy boss and just a really frustrating fight. Most other bosses can at least be fun once you figure out their move-set but not this guy, he's just a pain in the ass.
The worst part is that Laurence isn't even a fun or fair fight. The only thing that really makes him challenging is his fire gimmick otherwise he'd just be Cleric Beast again. Orphan can at least be somewhat fun and rewarding once you figure out his moveset and how and when to punish him and it feels mostly fair. With Laurence it's sometimes impossible to even understand what killed you because he can one shot or stunlock you so easily.
There is another good chance to hit him in the first phase. when he does his smash attack (followed by the aoe), roll or slide through it to his legs, get a few hits in, then roll away (behind him) before the aoe. He does that attack a lot so you are able to get him to phase 2 much faster.
What weapon should I use for a strength and arcane build? I have beast cutter, boom hammer, kirk hammer, tonitrus, moonlight sword, church pick, and whirligig saw leveled up and I'm level 100.
If the fight is boring then that means you've beat him more than once, and I understand that it is the same style and company as the souls game but bloodborne is not a souls game.
and its a duplicate because it makes sense.... he's a vicar.... so he transforms into a cleric beast duh don't complaint about duplicate bosses when he's not a duplicate at all
But why did Amelia transform into a different beast? Because she's a woman, or because she resisted it longer? Who was the beast on the bridge? I doubt during the previous hunt they would miss something this big and noisy, so it must be a new one.
Come on dude, that's an excuse. They just reused the exact model and put fire on it. Audio is the same aswell. A lore character of this significance deserves better
Everyone says the orphan of Kos is the hardest fight but to me...this one takes the cake! The orphan is easy to telegraph and predict where this guy is armed with solid stun locking AOE nonstop. I have the beast eater give me a hand while I work on his ankles with the MLGS. Then it’s Black Sky Eye when he’s down and even that’s tricky for it has to be timed just right.
Shot his head with a chikage oriented bloot tinge build after putting a ton of arrows into him I only staggered him once.... I was doing 400+ per charge attack and about 260 on a light attack.... guess damage to his face doesn't work
i can get him to 3rd phase without even using half of my vials. but i cant find a single opening in 3rd phase because he just kills me when he crawls and i cant even tell whats happening because the camera is doing 360s.
Even with a ninety arcane build this boss is a prick. Definitely one of the harder bosses. My problem is I try to be too aggressive, with this guy that’s not what you want to do.
It’s so weird seeing someone fight him this way.. I learned every move and was right next to his body the whole fight. I just learned how to dodge everything perfectly, it made fighting him way more fun for me. Slow and steady wins the race, but for Laurence on ng+3, it just wasn’t working for me.. being very aggressive and knowing how to dodge his moves is what worked for me
I salute you. I resorted to turning on HUD, which is a bummer for me..and still had to take 19 blood vials, attempting for like the 30th time. That attack timing is awkward af.
This boss is brutal. Managed to beat every boss so far with maybe a hand full of deaths. It's been dozens of times on this pos. Gonna try without locking on, might be my problem. The lava phase is kicking my ass.
All the characters that I use are stuck on this boss. One is stuck on NG+ cuz I did what was logical and started the DLC after completing the main game. I had no idea the DLC scaled. I haven’t beaten Orphan yet because I want to kill Laurence first even though it probably doesn’t matter. I’ve fought Orphan a few times and I feel like he’ll be easier. I find Ludwig to be hard, but he’s fun to fight once I get a rhythm going. Laurence just straight sucks and I can count on both hands how many times I got his legs off
I beat him on my 4th try by doing the good old strategy of getting behind and using the but slapping move. As long as you don’t get greedy and are mindful of his attacks that reach behind him you shouldn’t get hit much.
After 50 attempts on ng +++ i finally beat him.... terrible boss design because it forces you into a shitty hit and run style vs ultra high hp enemy with constant pressure, long fight and i rly hate that, especially in a game like BB when you normaly get rewarded for playing offensiv after timing dodges, parry or anticipate the enemy´s attacks... I died so many times in his final phase because i greeded for 2 many hit at onces because i was frustrated about that hit and run style the game forced me into and then always walk all the way up to this asshole after dieing, this was double tilting... Worst boss design out of all BB bosses in my opinion. I enjoyed the other DLC bosses a lot more because they were fair and gave you multiple options on how to approach the fight and use actual skill. This boss here is just a test of patience and to not get baited into going for 2 many hits at once out of frustration.
I feel awful for all of the characters in this game, but Lawrence, maybe because of the somber violin during his second phase just made me imagine how horrid it was to be him lol.
Yeah, I'm 223, on NG+ and he got me in 1 or 2 shots..for about 30 attempts, and I finally beat him, having to use 19 blood vials. Doesn't even feel like an accomplishment.
With my 50 arcane build I could do over 1000 damage with a call beyond, I tried to kill him with just a call beyond and was able to get him to his second phase with it . Also pizza cutter + beast blood pellet builds up beast hood so fast . Took out a quarter of his heath before he one shot me because I was staying to close to him
Best Orphan on second try. Beat Ludwig on 4th try. I have died to Laurence at least 15-20 times. I have charred gear and Yamamura hat for fire resist, +15% stamina, +10% health, and -4% dmg, stamina regen run for the running. +10 chikage, +10 Bowblade and +9 Evelyn. I’m gonna try not locking into him and running like a roach today and maybe beat him or ring a bell and beg for help lol!
It is the absolutely the worst and most idiotic boss in the game. This fight goes against everything the game teaches you so far. Aggression will absolutely not work, dodging into him is pointless with his 360 attacks that leave a trail of fire on top of it, and getting behind him is possible for 1 hit max before he 360 swipes the whole room or dodges you like he is a hunter. Bloody awful fight, that absolutely clashes with the whole design philosophy of the game so far. And that's even before the bullshit that is the second phase..
Aside from the obvious shit, the thing that pisses me off the most is his dumbass stagger he does when he walks, he literally just staggers you out of animations by WALKING LIKE 5 FEET, occasionally him turning does that too
This vid doesn’t really help as it doesn’t teach you how to deal with the boss directly rather than teaches you how to completely avoid him. Dodging his attacks and getting as much dps on limbs is preferred method but will result in most deaths.
I came in so cocky cuz he's just fiery cleric beast but I was so wrong.... he hits like a truck and even if I dodge his attacks his fire hits me and I flinch and get caught in his swipey combos ;(
I think this boss is hardest of all, bcs i try him for 10000times and Orphan 3 Times, In contrast to Lorenc, he has attacks that can be avoided easily. Sorry for english
lol , i used 30+ fire paper with saw spear cuz you know... he is a beast..and.... beast hate fire ... 😐. It turns out in the wiki he has 744 fire defense compared to 2nd highest defense against lightning as 200. I feel 30 times more stupid . i know he is on fire and therefore fire is harmless to him but he is a freaking beast and i didnt think he has such high fire defense.
I have so much trouble with this fucker, I hate his delayed attacks in the 1st phase and that you can't get up in his face in the 2nd, it kinda goes against everything BB has tought you, I hate this fight.
Laurence? more like "so you thought I cant hit you from behind, huh?"
Miyazaki: “So team, any ideas for a DLC boss?”
Some dude: “How about Cleric Beast”
Miyazaki: “Uh huh?”
Some dude: “But he has a HUGE health bar”
Miyazaki: “Ok?”
Some dude: “And all of his attacks have a HUGE aoe that one-shots you.”
Miyazaki: “Uhhhh...”
Some dude: “And his arena is as wide as a school hallway”
Miyazaki: “...”
Some dude: “But he’s on fire”
Miyazaki: “Perfection”
I think you meant to say “And his arena is the same as vicar amelias”
Some dude: "Oh btw, his legs explode into a pool of lava halfway into the fight"
@@ManiacMG And then he shits out and throws up lava all over the place.
I'm blood level. 260, 82 health points. 60 ish for both strength and stamina. Used the runes for extra 15% health and I think 5% physical damage . Also have the best armour for fire defense and he literally one shotted me in one attempt with his aoe attack. Think I'm ng+4 or 5. I've beat him before but hes seriously pissing me off this time
@@robylongo The "Vicar" arena
I hate how Laurence looks pretty easy seeing people cause he was nice to them. For me, I got 4 CRAWLING ATTACKS IN A ROW IN THE SECOND FACE
Try 10 crawling attacks in a row
Yes I counted , lord help me
@@saulgoodman3928 this AI is busted I swear
@@a.colemanthesemi-goat4636 I got hurt by the lava in that phase. How can you attack something that is surrounded by death?
@@flamingcat1101 You face death in the face, by hitting its face, which is easier said than done
Even ludwig was easier for me than him
For me he is the most annoying boss in the entire series
I started a new game plus just because of him, the only dlc boss i couldn't finish, i even broke my tv by accident because of this boss
@@Matheus-cu8fk I feel you. I was stuck on Ludwig for about a week. (I killed Valtr by accident so was screwed). Finally bit him with a buddy who's playing the game now too. Now... Damn he and Kos are whooping my tushy and it's not even funny. But this one I hate even more that Kos in a way. Battle area isn't big, fire everywhere, the screeching, HIS LEGS FUCKING EXPLODING INTO ARMAGEDDON...
need to kill him for dlc 100%
@@Black-Raptor Might have done a 'HAH SOCK IT' cry of victory when I got Platinum on the DLC and Main game earlier this week. Now I can hoont in peace in the replay.
This guy on NG+++ is near fucking impossible. He' not relentless like Ludwig, but he hits so hard. Toughest BB boss IMO
+chickenbot1 Yeah, I've had this game for a while now with the DLC and I've yet to down this guy on NG+ whatever. I'm not even sure what i'm on
I beat him on ng+4, pretty sure it was a complete fluke tho :p
Try fighting him on NG+7. near impossible
chickenbot1, yeah, at least Ludwigs attacks weren't all fucking AOE
JaThatOneGooner This boss is aids on NG+7, I've been stuck on him for like the past month and I still can't beat him.
"The red crap that goes around him" is actually a healing. He heals his broken limps. When you hit a limp enough it will get crippled and take extra damage.
oh that's cool. I had no idea what that did
I believe the cleric beast did that as well if you broke any limbs.
Laurence is the only boss that doesn’t receive extra damage when you hit his broken limbs.
Limps eh?
Oddly enough that makes sense and explains alot.
The first time I played him, I had him down to a sliver of health before dying. After that, I still haven't beat him :-(
Same, i panicked, not good when playing lol
Sista Jinx Thomas i am also still at him ...sadly i am also on new Game +
I've been stuck on him on NG+ for almost a year. SL 120
I feel you I fucking hate this boss
Platzu Plays same dude guy hits like a truck
I'm blood level. 260, 82 health points. 60 ish for both strength and stamina. Used the runes for extra 15% health and I think 5% physical damage . Also have the best armour for fire defense and he literally one shotted me in one attempt with his aoe attack.
I am 274 level and 99 healty and all things is the same also for me 1 shot i already died cant win like that...
this boss is the bully on the playground that tourments everyone.
Ludwig is my favorite boss in the series because he perfectly incapsulates the motto of souls: "hard but never unfair" I loved every second of his boss fight (okay maybe that's not true) his theme is amazing, it's tense, is a great arena, it has an awesome reward, and his second phase is amazing. The lore behind the boss is also epic too, and the dialogue afterwords is an nice touch. Ludwig's level of boss design is rarely seen in games, and I honestly like him more than Artorias or Ornstein and Smough (although I do love them). Then there's Laurence...
LordDanko dude suck one ludwig was completely bullshit in his firsr phase.
I've died to ludwig enough to figure out all his first phase moves. From then I hardly ever died to it anymore and it really made me feel like 'this is what bloodborne/dark souls is all about.'
RxDoc
Git Gud
LordDanko I agree even if I’m late 😂
Best boss
Once you got his moves down he’s easy
Just how the game should be
2nd phase was about timing instead of tryin to poise his attack to get an extra hit and get away without being harmed
My favorite bloodborne song too
2nd is the moon presence 😂it’s so stupid but good
Like horror movie theme song
Was an easy boss tho only thing that had me scared was that thing that doesn’t allow you to heal and when he puts you down to 1 HP
That’s the only thing I would be like damn I gotta be careful or I’m going to die
Killed it first try tho🔥
Yeah everyone after Living Failures has me convinced the DLC is bullshit. Definitely will not be playing it a second time after I beat it.
Rom, Bloody crow of Cainhurst, Living Failures and Lady maria are the unfairst battle in bloodborne.
My opinion.
He two shots me or one shots me with any attack. Omg hardest boss ever. No other souls boss gives me this much trouble.
You really haven't beaten Darklurker with melee only
Bob Ross Midir
Bob Ross try niohs dlc
@@TheRyuzaki1995 I feel that Kos as much damage as he does, at least is a dinamic and fun fight, this? This asshole slaps the shit out of me without the ability to dodge if he hits me first
TheRyuzaki1995 on reborn is easy
Is this guy even beatable? Ridiculous range, massive area of effect and you just get backed into walls. Seems so OP
well i just beat him after many hrs of trying. his attack has ridiculous range and u need to be precise in the dodging and positioning or else the fire will get u. i beat him on NG+ and it took everything outta me. also it was my first time fighting this boss. i found ludwig to be easier since he doesn't have elemental in his attacks where it will get u even if his claw misses.
Late reply but oh well - He’s indeed a beast (pun intended! :P) to beat, very trick also. Best way to fight him is using the Guidance rune to restore health with attacks, save BV for the second phase and from there...I have no idea. I just get lucky. Black Sky Eye or some powered up range attack is a best option. Close range fighting is...possible but difficult. You need almost PERFECT timing on I-frame rolls to avoid the AOEs and especially his hyper targeting smash attacks that deals a solid 900 damage if hit directly and often it dose.
@@JARedwolf100 to me his second phase isnt as hard since u can just hit and run.
jdennis867 I always get smacked into a chain of nonstop stun locks in phase 2, hence why I do an arcane distance shooting spree.
NG+ was a complete bitch for me with this guy in his second phase :(
I'm on NG+2 and I just purchased the dlc today its a pain on this boss T-T
@@INDRA027_ yesterday on my 50+ attempt I took the typical From bait...just 2 hits left to kill him, boom, that fucker catches me in his 3 hit combo. Thank you, From Software
@@radekbaranowski8047 i completely forgot the comment.
@@radekbaranowski8047 or my comment*
I find Laurence a harder boss than orphan of kos I don't get it why do people consider orphan the hardest boss in the game
i’m attempting both of them right now and i’ve definitely died to laurence a bunch more and got kos to 2nd phase on my first try, i was sorta thinking the same thing
Most people are under leveled when they reach Orphan of Kos. The community has collectively decided that you should be about level 120 before it’s an actual fair fight, but I was level 90 trying to kill Orphan and that was near impossible. He has sections designed to damage you unfairly, and they one shot you at the level you reach him naturally
you can easily beat the orphan by shooting him into viscerals, especially if your skill stat is high and if you have the strenght visceral attack runes, youll down him in like 5 hits. I also had bloodtinge build and chikage +10, so kind of a cheese
Austin Stroup i fought him around like 100 to 110 but i just beat him the other day and beat laurence not long after making my comment, i think i’d say orphan is a little bit harder just laurence seemed more tedious to me at least
vampmula 54 Laurence is a hit-and-run boss, incredibly annoying
A boss that you absolutely *have* to cheese. Thanks, From.
There is a cheese???
Im seriously done with this guy. On NG+ and have been stuck for months. every time I try to beat him, I play for an hour, leave the first phase and then get my face ripped off on the second with the lunge attacks. By that point my brain is too tired to figure out when to attack and when not to. so Ive decided to just fucking give up and let this guy win. RIP. the only boss in Bloodborne I could not take down
You barely even get a chance to hit him!
Every time I try to go near him to attack him, he blows me up with fire.....
Same story man
@@unlimitedperseverance1706 You need to be Really... Really patient with this fucker... Took him down just now and damn... It lasted like 10 minutes
He's just like the Cleric beast except 1000 times harder. I beat every boss in every souls game solo in new game+, ++,+++ etc and keep getting one shotted within 20 seconds by this guy.
Laurence has been the hardest boss for me, I have beaten all the other dlc bosses but this cleric.
same, i needed 50 attempts for him, but i also started the DLC while being on NG++ cuz i did platinum in regular BB before and well yea, BB gets a lot more difficult in NG + cycles than in the first playthrough :D All other bosses i did in like 3-4 attempts max. but this one here was a real test of patience and to calm the own ego to not go for more than 1 or 2 hits when he had his lava form...
it really sucks when youtubers record only their perfect fight where the boss isn't that aggressive and can bait them into doing anything. in mine he doesn't even stop attacking, the boss doesn't even go for the grab or jump. did they change the boss fight or something?
A lot of time's the bosses use different attacks depending on the distance or position you are. For example, i NEVER experience the jump because im always right at his legs.
It's called been good
It's all about RNG. It can be different for every single person.
Ill be honest rom didnt teleported on my ng+ game play and just literally let me hit him until he dies
5:15
Laurence: hey, guess what
Me: what?
Laurence: 180°
His second phase one hits me every fucking time on NG2
I found the 2nd phase pretty damn easy. I would keep my distance until he puked lava and then would quickly run to his side and charge up a heavy attack. Repeat until he's dead.
Laurence is that kid you think is weak and easy to fight and than you fight him and turns out hes jackie Chan's son
This guy is such a lazy design. Just make the first boss insane with damage, range and speed. Ironically the hardest boss in the game. I've died twice more on this guy than the amount I died to bosses in the main game. Feels like cheap padding and I hate the fact that he's in the way of a rune.
Cheap design? Hardest boss? Gotta disagree with you. Obviously it's just an opinion, but he's the first cleric beast, and its Laurence. of course hes going to be super powerful. You had more trouble with Laurence than the Orphan of Kos?
laurence is by far more difficult than the orphan of kos.
Agreed. I've died more to Laurence than Orphan.
+Tony614 yes I did have more trouble with Laurence than the orphan of kos
its not a lazy design.... he's a vicar so no shit he's gonna be a cleric beast.
Laurence is that raisin doughnut you mistook for chocolate chunks.
dude what the hell this boss two hits me everytime
its already been 3 years now and all i can do is make it to the 3rd phase when its only his torso. i hate they had to scale the dlc to whatever ng+ your in even though this is still the first playthrough the dlc.
Haven't beaten him yet after 3 years
Any luck?
Not only is he a tough fight I personally didn't enjoy it as much as Orphan of Kos or Ludwig.
99 insight..this boss is a nightmare..and i tought Ludwig was hard....
Insight only affect frenzy resistance. So having 99 insight makes no difference.
it also affects temporary beast transformation meter.
He's unbeatable on ng++. It's super hard to get to 2nd from, and then it's just random bullshit hell
not true at all man.. you just need to get good.. seriously bro.
Lobosjr beat him on NG+7 bare fists no armor and no heals.. so anything is possible...
But yeah I agree it's very fucking hard.. I'm on NG+4 and finally beat Kos after about 20+ attempts till I shamefully caved and summoned someone to help me finally killing the bastard.. Now I'm fighting Laurence right now.. I'm scared LOL!
lol, dumb troll
+shizochaos how am I a troll?
you're an idiot.
wait... your telling him to gg but you needed help and brought a summon?
@@TheAverageTargaryen your 2 years late bud
Hey Holmes, what NG were you, and what Blood Level were you? I'm curious. Because I can't seem to kill this boss even with your guide.
Thanks bro might be able to beat him after dying 67 times today to his 2nd form
In this boss when I lock on I can't see 90% of what's happening and if I don't lock on most of my attacks miss. Wtf am I supposed to do the only bosses remaining are him and orphan. By far he's the hardest.
I was struggling with this guy and then I beat him on the second try after watching your video.
im on ng+7 and now i bought dlc and the rest you know :)
feel you bro i bought the DLC on ng+++ but finally beat this shithead after 50 attempts. Most annoying boss i played so far.
Damn a lot of people hate on this boss, I mean I agree since I keep losing. I thought I just suck lol
I beat Ludwig first try but this dumbass reskin is kicking my ass
Way late to the party, but I hate this boss so much. Orphan of Kos, first try kill. This guy...utter bs
This guy on NG+6 is ridiculous. I beat Orphan of Cos in 3 tries and Lady Maria in 2, but I'm stuck on this ass-flame for several days. He has about 50,000HP and can one shot you with several different moves.
The fire is the only thing that makes him challenging in the first place. It's such a cheap and lazy boss and just a really frustrating fight. Most other bosses can at least be fun once you figure out their move-set but not this guy, he's just a pain in the ass.
I can honestly say I beat this guy first time, but he did get me down to low health a number of times.
I found the Orphan of Kos easier than this guy
The worst part is that Laurence isn't even a fun or fair fight. The only thing that really makes him challenging is his fire gimmick otherwise he'd just be Cleric Beast again. Orphan can at least be somewhat fun and rewarding once you figure out his moveset and how and when to punish him and it feels mostly fair. With Laurence it's sometimes impossible to even understand what killed you because he can one shot or stunlock you so easily.
man i hate this one
i´ve tried this boss more than 10 times and had always help, but I failed -.-
The only thing i learned from this is my +9 Threaded Cane is doing noticeably less damage then your character is.
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There is another good chance to hit him in the first phase. when he does his smash attack (followed by the aoe), roll or slide through it to his legs, get a few hits in, then roll away (behind him) before the aoe. He does that attack a lot so you are able to get him to phase 2 much faster.
What weapon should I use for a strength and arcane build? I have beast cutter, boom hammer, kirk hammer, tonitrus, moonlight sword, church pick, and whirligig saw leveled up and I'm level 100.
Whirligig. Laurence is very weak to serrated attacks and that's as settated as it gets.
whirligig.... I was hitting 600 on Laurence on NG at level 70... quite insane
ckotherletters Holy Moonlight Greatsword
Whirligig saw he is the best weapon against beasts he will destroy bosses but he sucks ass against none beasts foes
I'm lvl 233 on ng+7 still beats me like a ragdoll
This is, and I'm not joking, the only boss in the entire bloodborne game that took me over 4 tries.
(I'm on try 16)
So if we throw oil on him why wouldn’t he just go up in mega flames
this fight is so boring, and a duplicate boss again? hate this shit in a souls game lol
If the fight is boring then that means you've beat him more than once, and I understand that it is the same style and company as the souls game but bloodborne is not a souls game.
and its a duplicate because it makes sense.... he's a vicar.... so he transforms into a cleric beast duh don't complaint about duplicate bosses when he's not a duplicate at all
But why did Amelia transform into a different beast? Because she's a woman, or because she resisted it longer?
Who was the beast on the bridge? I doubt during the previous hunt they would miss something this big and noisy, so it must be a new one.
BlaQ it could be because she was a female, although I don't think all vicars turned into the same kind of beast
Come on dude, that's an excuse. They just reused the exact model and put fire on it. Audio is the same aswell. A lore character of this significance deserves better
Any tips on dodging during his "powered up" first phase? (When he starts throwing himself across the room and falling over).
+Peepsh Diagonal Left/Right. But I suggest you take your time when fighting him. AND DON'T GET GREEDY!!!
Never try to fight him solo. Always summon an NPC or better yet get help from other players.
I burnt through roughly 20 insight in NG+ summoning Valtir and still, still could not beat this guy..why
which gun would you recommend shooting with? and how much should it be upgraded?
Everyone says the orphan of Kos is the hardest fight but to me...this one takes the cake! The orphan is easy to telegraph and predict where this guy is armed with solid stun locking AOE nonstop.
I have the beast eater give me a hand while I work on his ankles with the MLGS. Then it’s Black Sky Eye when he’s down and even that’s tricky for it has to be timed just right.
Shot his head with a chikage oriented bloot tinge build after putting a ton of arrows into him I only staggered him once.... I was doing 400+ per charge attack and about 260 on a light attack.... guess damage to his face doesn't work
i can get him to 3rd phase without even using half of my vials. but i cant find a single opening in 3rd phase because he just kills me when he crawls and i cant even tell whats happening because the camera is doing 360s.
Fight without the camera lock
Even with a ninety arcane build this boss is a prick. Definitely one of the harder bosses. My problem is I try to be too aggressive, with this guy that’s not what you want to do.
It’s so weird seeing someone fight him this way.. I learned every move and was right next to his body the whole fight. I just learned how to dodge everything perfectly, it made fighting him way more fun for me. Slow and steady wins the race, but for Laurence on ng+3, it just wasn’t working for me.. being very aggressive and knowing how to dodge his moves is what worked for me
I salute you. I resorted to turning on HUD, which is a bummer for me..and still had to take 19 blood vials, attempting for like the 30th time. That attack timing is awkward af.
This boss is brutal. Managed to beat every boss so far with maybe a hand full of deaths. It's been dozens of times on this pos. Gonna try without locking on, might be my problem. The lava phase is kicking my ass.
Surprised there wasn't a reason people tried to tell from soft to get rid of him.
On new game plus hands down the toughest boss I’ve faced since Midir
All the characters that I use are stuck on this boss. One is stuck on NG+ cuz I did what was logical and started the DLC after completing the main game. I had no idea the DLC scaled. I haven’t beaten Orphan yet because I want to kill Laurence first even though it probably doesn’t matter. I’ve fought Orphan a few times and I feel like he’ll be easier. I find Ludwig to be hard, but he’s fun to fight once I get a rhythm going. Laurence just straight sucks and I can count on both hands how many times I got his legs off
I beat him on my 4th try by doing the good old strategy of getting behind and using the but slapping move. As long as you don’t get greedy and are mindful of his attacks that reach behind him you shouldn’t get hit much.
Spent about 4 hours fighting him, I said “last try” at 1:30am and kept on saying it until about 4am 😂 did orphan in 2 tries though
His second phase is a fucking nightmare.
I used to struggle with Ludwig now I find him easier to deal with then Laurence.
After 50 attempts on ng +++ i finally beat him.... terrible boss design because it forces you into a shitty hit and run style vs ultra high hp enemy with constant pressure, long fight and i rly hate that, especially in a game like BB when you normaly get rewarded for playing offensiv after timing dodges, parry or anticipate the enemy´s attacks... I died so many times in his final phase because i greeded for 2 many hit at onces because i was frustrated about that hit and run style the game forced me into and then always walk all the way up to this asshole after dieing, this was double tilting... Worst boss design out of all BB bosses in my opinion. I enjoyed the other DLC bosses a lot more because they were fair and gave you multiple options on how to approach the fight and use actual skill. This boss here is just a test of patience and to not get baited into going for 2 many hits at once out of frustration.
Next time turn the audio of the game down. All I hear is the beast screaming. Had to turn it off. Sorry.
In NG i got him on my second try... In NG+ he killed me like 15 Times already...
I feel awful for all of the characters in this game, but Lawrence, maybe because of the somber violin during his second phase just made me imagine how horrid it was to be him lol.
It took me 3 tries to beat orphan. And i have fought Laurence atleast 30 times and i still havent beat him.
I only manage to beat him until ng+2, but on ng+3? fuck this guy, he could 2hit KO you even with full hp. Im lvl 230 btw
Yeah, I'm 223, on NG+ and he got me in 1 or 2 shots..for about 30 attempts, and I finally beat him, having to use 19 blood vials. Doesn't even feel like an accomplishment.
With my 50 arcane build I could do over 1000 damage with a call beyond, I tried to kill him with just a call beyond and was able to get him to his second phase with it . Also pizza cutter + beast blood pellet builds up beast hood so fast . Took out a quarter of his heath before he one shot me because I was staying to close to him
Best Orphan on second try. Beat Ludwig on 4th try. I have died to Laurence at least 15-20 times. I have charred gear and Yamamura hat for fire resist, +15% stamina, +10% health, and -4% dmg, stamina regen run for the running. +10 chikage, +10 Bowblade and +9 Evelyn. I’m gonna try not locking into him and running like a roach today and maybe beat him or ring a bell and beg for help lol!
so what i got firm this is... be a blood tinge build. im doing him on my strength character so i can get the rune he drops for beast claws
Just playing through this DLC one time on new game + made me 20x better at the game
It is the absolutely the worst and most idiotic boss in the game. This fight goes against everything the game teaches you so far. Aggression will absolutely not work, dodging into him is pointless with his 360 attacks that leave a trail of fire on top of it, and getting behind him is possible for 1 hit max before he 360 swipes the whole room or dodges you like he is a hunter. Bloody awful fight, that absolutely clashes with the whole design philosophy of the game so far. And that's even before the bullshit that is the second phase..
Thank you for the stragedy.
Did u use buffs to get that amount of damage or play alone?
I used the blood gems to buff my weapon.
Oh ok I forgot there’s blood gems lol
The second phase is complete bs because of the lava behind him that oneshots you and you can`t really react to it
It really helped me to beat Laurence ng+7 thank you very much flr the amaizing vid
You pray first
Aside from the obvious shit, the thing that pisses me off the most is his dumbass stagger he does when he walks, he literally just staggers you out of animations by WALKING LIKE 5 FEET, occasionally him turning does that too
You know that he is suffering, right? All I did is to walk away, so he can suffer more.
Too bad that suffering wont kill his ass >:/
This vid doesn’t really help as it doesn’t teach you how to deal with the boss directly rather than teaches you how to completely avoid him. Dodging his attacks and getting as much dps on limbs is preferred method but will result in most deaths.
It's the arena not the boss. Personally, I think they f**ked this one up.
I cant do it!! I have no online and Im so screwed
don't lose faith brethren!
if lobosjr can beat him ng+7 bare fists, no armor and no heals than anything is possible!
+Will Nichols IKR HOW DOES LOBOS SIT THERE FOR 48 MINUTES AND KEEP HIS COMPOSURE
Kedrick Duran because he gets money doing it
I beat Ludwig first try but now I’m on my 7th try with Laurence
I came in so cocky cuz he's just fiery cleric beast but I was so wrong.... he hits like a truck and even if I dodge his attacks his fire hits me and I flinch and get caught in his swipey combos ;(
Same
I think this boss is hardest of all, bcs i try him for 10000times and Orphan 3 Times, In contrast to Lorenc, he has attacks that can be avoided easily. Sorry for english
Im stuck on ng+5 and his health is ridiculous
Damn bro I can barely understand you. Turn your mic up.
lol , i used 30+ fire paper with saw spear cuz you know... he is a beast..and.... beast hate fire ... 😐. It turns out in the wiki he has 744 fire defense compared to 2nd highest defense against lightning as 200. I feel 30 times more stupid . i know he is on fire and therefore fire is harmless to him but he is a freaking beast and i didnt think he has such high fire defense.
Ludwig was so easy and I beat him second try and the cleric beats first try. And this beast is so hard.
fucking goat on flames with large aoe and self cornering
I always shoot the head at the beginning so i get a viseral
I have so much trouble with this fucker, I hate his delayed attacks in the 1st phase and that you can't get up in his face in the 2nd, it kinda goes against everything BB has tought you, I hate this fight.
What weapon does he used?
in the first stage i just stay behind him and make huge damage ,,but the last stage i,m dying all the time
This is giving me demon of hatred vibes
This guy felt more of a pain than DoH.