you are such a genius to expose a well plotted scam like this one, I genuinley thank you bro I was really gonna fall for it but I did a small research and found your video, and it saved me, I can not express my gratitude bro, you really saved my one grand before i buy sander's program Lol, thanks
Yeah I searched for videos like this right after watching Sander’s video… He is good at masking the course BS inside of some other layers and he probably has an actual product, but I agree that ultimately nobody will hire a beginner in this way he claims. He still makes the $1-2k per course but just distracted behind also having this software with subscription fee, etc.
The way you explain gives the vibe of a friend or brother giving real honest life advice to their brother. Thank you so much. Your heart is pure good. ❤
I wouldn’t go as far as calling it a scam. It’s doable to scale it as a beginner. All it takes is one client 🤷♂️ I’ll give you guys and update once I being the journey 🙏
Bruh!😂How can you be dedicated if you aren't willing to pay a measly $995 for education?! Is paying $100,000 for university a better option? (With yearly interest)
You say it's "impossible" for a beginner to get clients with IPGA because they have no authority, right? You say that everyone wants the best in the game? Which btw, is NOT true! These smaller guys coming up have less clients to deal with, more time to focus on singular clients (also they're way easier/quicker to contact) You made some valid points in this video - But at 6:30 seconds you say "How are you going to get clients? Run ads? Etc" Well, you learn, right? Every single person that makes £100k+ a month from ads had no clue what to do at the start! I'm not sure what your intentions are with this video, you have powerful confidence and conviction - ill give you that... But, you lost me when saying "Do you really think you're going to learn all this from a course?" That's the entire point of a course, to learn the things you don't know.
Quick note: I don't necessarily believe IPGA is BEGINNER friendly, here's why... 1) There's many boxes you need to tick (for example building a landing page, which a beginner could get stuck on for a while) 2) This could easily overwhelm a beginner/intermediate player But that just makes it even more lucrative, it's a service which is extremely complex Meaning less people will succeed, and if you do you'll be armed with a combination of skills that not many people have. At that point, you're pretty much irreplaceable.
Yup i agree dude, the point is that a beginner has no social proof at all. So not a single big creator would accept an offer. (great entrepreneurs know that rev share offers from the start aren't sustainable for getting the best clients. They know that you need to pay to get insane value.
@@niksettingyou can’t expect to pull a big client with no social proof and experience, your right. But you can help grow some small professionals. You repeat that 2-3 times now you have a nice portfolio and experience. It’s not a scam, but it’s not a get rich quick scheme either. You really gotta put in the work. But if you stick through it you can build yourself nice passive income overtime. And also you’d need to be somewhat tech savvy.
All I see is comments about how great this video is. But let me question the questioner for just a moment. (Disclaimer, you made a lot of valid points like "not very beginner friendly" perhaps etc. But I still think you aren't being completely on point here, please let me explain why as someone who's currently asking all these questions for myself, trying to make the best choice possible as well). To be fair, throughout the whole video you talk as if Sander Stage (can't speak for Iman Gadzhi says however I have to admit) ever said you should approach any "already business owners". However, I don't remember him ever saying that anywhere. Here's what I understood from what he wrote in his "free guide" underneath his video introducing people to IPGA. In his free Google doc that you get access to if you click the video in his description link of that video I believe is called "The Only Online Business To Start In 2024" you can see he talks more about finding people that perhaps don't have the "technical skills". I'm certain that he mentions this throughout the RUclips video itself, like that some people (experts) know their "thing", but perhaps might just lack the structure/planning/technical skills (which even begs the question if they'll be even harder to work with as well, as for your "not very beginner friendly" argument as well Nik, I see your point there, but Sander was pretty clear from the start that this "isn't for everyone at all" and that there are probably easier ways to earn less but still good amounts of money too). And even we as the people here probably all know using something like "Clickfunnels" or "GoHighLevel" is already lightyears ahead in terms of simplicity of use compared to standard "cold hard old coding") if we're gonna talk "technical" skills that are even required to begin with (just a side note). My key takeaways from this video are: - IPGA = Not very beginner friendly (true) - Building a set of skills to create some innate value first, then practicing on some people "for free"/in exchange for something other than money (perhaps even just plain free value) before venturing off teaching it others as an established "expert" now that you have social proof = just as hard, but will at least save you time from wasting it on building, then offering something that "the audience" (market) doesn't want in the first place (true) If you wanna succeed at all, all I can tell is you need to put in the work, so make sure you know what you're getting yourself into (use common sense like the guy in this video talks about). But at the same time you have to be willing to fail as many times as necessary for you to ever to be able to succeed as well, so you should embrace the failure rather than try to "cut it short", which this guy fails to mention clearly throughout this video.
What's the best business model to start now in your opinion? For a "begginer" or someone who has no case studies to show he can do the service. Thank you for your response ! 🥰🥰 Edit: What's in your opinion the best skill to master, to then easily be able to sell the skill as it's high demand low offer.(Unlike copywriting which is high offer, low demand imo)
All I heard were problems I need to put my head down and freaking get to work to learn (before I can earn anything) like how to run ads, sales, copywriting, landing pages, market research (nor in that order of course, but I'll try and fail until I succeed) etc.
Totally agree with what you're saying. Like this model is absolutely terrible for beginners and why would an expert help someone else launch and scale their course when he himself could make and scale one.
This is a valid opinion and theory, but theory can only take you so far. The reality is that beginner IPGA owners are catching the attention of people with audiences larger than Sander, getting on calls with them, and closing them for not just 15%, but 20-30-40 and even 50% revenue share + setup fees sometimes. The reality is that people are doing "the impossible".
Bro, can you please explain it to me, I'm trying to run an agency from Russia, but I can't make a business email, because of costs, and access, is i ok to run it without email domain for a while, and can i go without stripes? Because PayPal and Stripe stopped providing their services to us, which is really sad, i have so many questions
this isn't true lol, $5k set up 30% rev share, with a guarantee of 10k or set up fee back. You can build testimonials by working for rev share completely. Yes this is more of an advanced business model but just because is hard docent mean its a scam. Look at William brown, he built info product growth to 500k a month
Well done man. I've witnessed such scam develop full form from inside its own community, but I opened my eyes now. What is most weird of that all, is how militant the community members are, like they are full IPGA acolytes and mock people pointing out to such scam. It is weird because I always thought of Sander Stage to be a legit individual, but it's crazy he would take such blatant advantage of his community. In essence, he lives from selling his IPGA masterclass, while posing results come from IPGA service. It's disgusting. He rented a flat during launch. There are no live calls included. The course was incomplete for 3-4 months. Never active in the group. There are wins in the chat for the setup fee, but good luck systematically growing an info product to 10K/mo. That ain't gonna happen and less from a beginner. I hope this hits back at him for having drifted me for such a long time. For instance I come from his SMMA Academy, and in 2023, selling FB Ads to eCom Brands was such a bad model.
Hey bro I do not fully agree with you because you are saying IPGA is a scam it's not a scam it makes money only the thing is you need to be an expert and have a name in the industry this does not mean a beginner could not be on the same levels as people like iman gadzhi to do these type of business model it will take time him to understand and learn the skills but a beginner can also do it. By the way, the last part of the video was good.
Great video! However IPDA model can work if you are doing it differently than they teach you, launching the course using only audience of the expert plus charging no upfront fee but with bigger rev share. With large audience it can work, but it's not that sustainable and impossible to do without client results, so overall I completely agree!
Ye bro, but what i said the point is these people will never work with beginners or even experts. High-value business owners know they need to invest big amounts of money to make more and scale. I personally would never do a rev share model because i know it's a beginner i'm working with.
It's true that most creators won't work with beginners and I agree about IPGA program, but rev share model works and it's used by top agencies. For example, Jeremy Haynes also uses this model@@niksetting
I'm not convinced on why reaching out to people with a good enough audience that would lead to results it is "impossible". I don't believe that at all. We are not talking about influencer king status, but there is out there a big amount of people with big audiences that would be ready and willing to get expert consulting on scaling the course. The objection that is not suited for beginners is also a lot more irrelevant if you are part of the community of the creators you mention, such as Sander Stage. & What is the alternative? The crazy hyper saturated SMMA? Also I have 34 and a career in tech so I can leverage that; obviously high school kids should focus on at least finishing school and making sure they don't become illiterate; it's not cool having not a basic cultural formation and having the space flooded by literally nobodies who don't know what they are doing. @@niksetting
i’m about to get into smma and i obviously know the best way for me to grow my business is to purchase coaching and/or a course however i don’t have enough money for this. so the next best thing is to watch free content and join some communities. do you have any recommendations for communities that i can join for free (or a low monthly fee,
Very surface level video but good concepts for concersn about new people jumping into this. I recommend people to think more outside the box and do their own research then dive into something .....than take something at face value as a one buy in fixes everything. You really end up succeeding when you take a little bit from here and there and put it all together ....and when you figure out what that looks like for you, then there's success.
@Nik Sander I have high specific knowledge in UX design and UX research. Made 6 figures 2 years running with about 3 clients (majority of rev coming from one). Any advice on scaling a business where you are the one that needs to actually fufil after the deal has been struck? I have EFFICIENT systems in place to produce very high quality UX designs. I may be in a position where scaling is v hard..
you are such a genius to expose a well plotted scam like this one, I genuinley thank you bro I was really gonna fall for it but I did a small research and found your video, and it saved me, I can not express my gratitude bro, you really saved my one grand before i buy sander's program Lol, thanks
same bro, I almost bought Sander's program but stumbled upon this video when I was doing my research, so glad I found this video
yes, this!@@calebleung6047
same lol
Yeah I searched for videos like this right after watching Sander’s video… He is good at masking the course BS inside of some other layers and he probably has an actual product, but I agree that ultimately nobody will hire a beginner in this way he claims. He still makes the $1-2k per course but just distracted behind also having this software with subscription fee, etc.
@@Jobo9O9 sure but who's going to hire a beginner smma owner?
The way you explain gives the vibe of a friend or brother giving real honest life advice to their brother. Thank you so much. Your heart is pure good. ❤
😎
I wouldn’t go as far as calling it a scam. It’s doable to scale it as a beginner. All it takes is one client 🤷♂️ I’ll give you guys and update once I being the journey 🙏
I’m here for the update
how is it going?
How is it going?
how is it going?
bro is NOT doing too well on his IPGA journey.
I was so dedicated in learning about IPGA and taking the masterclasses until i found out that i have to somehow pull $995 out of my rear to learn.
start a hustle to get the IPGA course
That itself IS the IPGA course 😂
Yo same.
I’m in the same position, but if we want it bad enough we’ll find a way to get to it! I’m praying for your success!
Bruh!😂How can you be dedicated if you aren't willing to pay a measly $995 for education?!
Is paying $100,000 for university a better option? (With yearly interest)
You say it's "impossible" for a beginner to get clients with IPGA because they have no authority, right?
You say that everyone wants the best in the game? Which btw, is NOT true!
These smaller guys coming up have less clients to deal with, more time to focus on singular clients (also they're way easier/quicker to contact)
You made some valid points in this video - But at 6:30 seconds you say "How are you going to get clients? Run ads? Etc"
Well, you learn, right? Every single person that makes £100k+ a month from ads had no clue what to do at the start!
I'm not sure what your intentions are with this video, you have powerful confidence and conviction - ill give you that...
But, you lost me when saying "Do you really think you're going to learn all this from a course?"
That's the entire point of a course, to learn the things you don't know.
Quick note:
I don't necessarily believe IPGA is BEGINNER friendly, here's why...
1) There's many boxes you need to tick (for example building a landing page, which a beginner could get stuck on for a while)
2) This could easily overwhelm a beginner/intermediate player
But that just makes it even more lucrative, it's a service which is extremely complex
Meaning less people will succeed, and if you do you'll be armed with a combination of skills that not many people have.
At that point, you're pretty much irreplaceable.
What would you recommend instead as I can get the course right now@@AshRylance
Yup i agree dude, the point is that a beginner has no social proof at all. So not a single big creator would accept an offer. (great entrepreneurs know that rev share offers from the start aren't sustainable for getting the best clients.
They know that you need to pay to get insane value.
@@niksettingyou can’t expect to pull a big client with no social proof and experience, your right. But you can help grow some small professionals. You repeat that 2-3 times now you have a nice portfolio and experience. It’s not a scam, but it’s not a get rich quick scheme either. You really gotta put in the work. But if you stick through it you can build yourself nice passive income overtime. And also you’d need to be somewhat tech savvy.
@@djimonleeexactly my view.
opinion like these are needed on the internet. everyone nowadays is a yes man. keep doing videos like these please.
Yes man with bank
This video is too good.
I need to see genuine rebuttals and responses to this video from folks like Stage
appreciate you G
All I see is comments about how great this video is. But let me question the questioner for just a moment.
(Disclaimer, you made a lot of valid points like "not very beginner friendly" perhaps etc. But I still think you aren't being completely on point here, please let me explain why as someone who's currently asking all these questions for myself, trying to make the best choice possible as well).
To be fair, throughout the whole video you talk as if Sander Stage (can't speak for Iman Gadzhi says however I have to admit) ever said you should approach any "already business owners".
However, I don't remember him ever saying that anywhere.
Here's what I understood from what he wrote in his "free guide" underneath his video introducing people to IPGA.
In his free Google doc that you get access to if you click the video in his description link of that video I believe is called "The Only Online Business To Start In 2024" you can see he talks more about finding people that perhaps don't have the "technical skills".
I'm certain that he mentions this throughout the RUclips video itself, like that some people (experts) know their "thing", but perhaps might just lack the structure/planning/technical skills (which even begs the question if they'll be even harder to work with as well, as for your "not very beginner friendly" argument as well Nik, I see your point there, but Sander was pretty clear from the start that this "isn't for everyone at all" and that there are probably easier ways to earn less but still good amounts of money too).
And even we as the people here probably all know using something like "Clickfunnels" or "GoHighLevel" is already lightyears ahead in terms of simplicity of use compared to standard "cold hard old coding") if we're gonna talk "technical" skills that are even required to begin with (just a side note).
My key takeaways from this video are:
- IPGA = Not very beginner friendly (true)
- Building a set of skills to create some innate value first, then practicing on some people "for free"/in exchange for something other than money (perhaps even just plain free value) before venturing off teaching it others as an established "expert" now that you have social proof = just as hard, but will at least save you time from wasting it on building, then offering something that "the audience" (market) doesn't want in the first place (true)
If you wanna succeed at all, all I can tell is you need to put in the work, so make sure you know what you're getting yourself into (use common sense like the guy in this video talks about). But at the same time you have to be willing to fail as many times as necessary for you to ever to be able to succeed as well, so you should embrace the failure rather than try to "cut it short", which this guy fails to mention clearly throughout this video.
so what do you do ?
What's the best business model to start now in your opinion? For a "begginer" or someone who has no case studies to show he can do the service. Thank you for your response ! 🥰🥰
Edit: What's in your opinion the best skill to master, to then easily be able to sell the skill as it's high demand low offer.(Unlike copywriting which is high offer, low demand imo)
All I heard were problems I need to put my head down and freaking get to work to learn (before I can earn anything) like how to run ads, sales, copywriting, landing pages, market research (nor in that order of course, but I'll try and fail until I succeed) etc.
Big scam... I haven't access to the course I bought from him.. his not responding to emails or ig..
Totally agree with what you're saying.
Like this model is absolutely terrible for beginners and why would an expert help someone else launch and scale their course when he himself could make and scale one.
Because his own knowledge is limited, he can sell others people knowledge too
This is a valid opinion and theory, but theory can only take you so far.
The reality is that beginner IPGA owners are catching the attention of people with audiences larger than Sander, getting on calls with them, and closing them for not just 15%, but 20-30-40 and even 50% revenue share + setup fees sometimes.
The reality is that people are doing "the impossible".
Bro, can you please explain it to me, I'm trying to run an agency from Russia, but I can't make a business email, because of costs, and access, is i ok to run it without email domain for a while, and can i go without stripes? Because PayPal and Stripe stopped providing their services to us, which is really sad, i have so many questions
this isn't true lol, $5k set up 30% rev share, with a guarantee of 10k or set up fee back. You can build testimonials by working for rev share completely. Yes this is more of an advanced business model but just because is hard docent mean its a scam. Look at William brown, he built info product growth to 500k a month
ok but have you tried his course to check his process ?
may be its wrong may be not.
The answer is easy for beginners, undercut massively
Bingo 😂
Well done man. I've witnessed such scam develop full form from inside its own community, but I opened my eyes now. What is most weird of that all, is how militant the community members are, like they are full IPGA acolytes and mock people pointing out to such scam. It is weird because I always thought of Sander Stage to be a legit individual, but it's crazy he would take such blatant advantage of his community. In essence, he lives from selling his IPGA masterclass, while posing results come from IPGA service. It's disgusting. He rented a flat during launch. There are no live calls included. The course was incomplete for 3-4 months. Never active in the group. There are wins in the chat for the setup fee, but good luck systematically growing an info product to 10K/mo. That ain't gonna happen and less from a beginner. I hope this hits back at him for having drifted me for such a long time. For instance I come from his SMMA Academy, and in 2023, selling FB Ads to eCom Brands was such a bad model.
Appreciate you bro
Whats your delivery service, how do you fulfill $100k worth of clients? Every talks about getting clients, what do you do to service?
interesting how ur own websites terms and policy arent even clickable g 🧐
Liked at 5:53 . Started spitting facts.
Hey bro I do not fully agree with you because you are saying IPGA is a scam it's not a scam it makes money only the thing is you need to be an expert and have a name in the industry this does not mean a beginner could not be on the same levels as people like iman gadzhi to do these type of business model it will take time him to understand and learn the skills but a beginner can also do it. By the way, the last part of the video was good.
this is full bs
he's absolutely correct
What do you think about creating and managing a paid community instead for revenue share?
That's good, as long as you know how to create & manage a community :)
Are you expert in this business
Results speak for themselves@@eljadidhakim5445
Great video! However IPDA model can work if you are doing it differently than they teach you, launching the course using only audience of the expert plus charging no upfront fee but with bigger rev share. With large audience it can work, but it's not that sustainable and impossible to do without client results, so overall I completely agree!
Ye bro, but what i said the point is these people will never work with beginners or even experts. High-value business owners know they need to invest big amounts of money to make more and scale.
I personally would never do a rev share model because i know it's a beginner i'm working with.
It's true that most creators won't work with beginners and I agree about IPGA program, but rev share model works and it's used by top agencies. For example, Jeremy Haynes also uses this model@@niksetting
It's called IPGA, not IPDA.
I'm not convinced on why reaching out to people with a good enough audience that would lead to results it is "impossible". I don't believe that at all. We are not talking about influencer king status, but there is out there a big amount of people with big audiences that would be ready and willing to get expert consulting on scaling the course.
The objection that is not suited for beginners is also a lot more irrelevant if you are part of the community of the creators you mention, such as Sander Stage. & What is the alternative? The crazy hyper saturated SMMA?
Also I have 34 and a career in tech so I can leverage that; obviously high school kids should focus on at least finishing school and making sure they don't become illiterate; it's not cool having not a basic cultural formation and having the space flooded by literally nobodies who don't know what they are doing. @@niksetting
@@josemanuel7249thanks jose 👍
i’m about to get into smma and i obviously know the best way for me to grow my business is to purchase coaching and/or a course however i don’t have enough money for this. so the next best thing is to watch free content and join some communities. do you have any recommendations for communities that i can join for free (or a low monthly fee,
look for dylan wilson. gives out EVERYTHING for free. no need for a course
sander little dork
Can i edit your videos?
Very surface level video but good concepts for concersn about new people jumping into this.
I recommend people to think more outside the box and do their own research then dive into something .....than take something at face value as a one buy in fixes everything.
You really end up succeeding when you take a little bit from here and there and put it all together ....and when you figure out what that looks like for you, then there's success.
@Nik Sander
I have high specific knowledge in UX design and UX research. Made 6 figures 2 years running with about 3 clients (majority of rev coming from one).
Any advice on scaling a business where you are the one that needs to actually fufil after the deal has been struck? I have EFFICIENT systems in place to produce very high quality UX designs.
I may be in a position where scaling is v hard..
no way you gave out this for free
Ofcourse i will G
Hey Nik. Umm why do you need phone numbers to all people to see your courses?
U only do B&R?
I feel like the platform Masterclass already got this lane down
word.
🙃
can I ask you how did you become this artiqulate and well-spoken brother? I am really impressed of your capabilities.
👌
would appreciate an answer to the question above aswell. @@niksetting
Just having rizz, same as with girls. no hard deal
just practice.
all u did was tell me to learn
Do exactly that