They are lying. It's stuffed with content GAMERS enjoy, that's why they do not honestly. If it was stuffed with double the characters but they were sh*t Concord style players, I am sure 100% the same "Journalist" would have said how Amazing the content is 🤡
Overwatch with 42 characters: "Hero shooter defining" Rivals with 33 characters: "Overstuffed and complicated" These "journalists" are such corporate shills and clowns
@@davidy22 Their being shills for the wrong corporation. If I were them I'd be shilling for the currently succeeding company, not the one everyone hates right now.
@@davidy22sure it would. "Corporate shill" doesnt mean "all corporations" after all. This journo is literally writing short bitch piece about Netease _not_ charging players hand over fist for new characters and milking the property for every last time. The whole article is just anti-consumer propoganda lol
LOLOLOLOL. Riot Games released League of Legends with forty heroes. It now boasts over 130 and is one of the most popular games available. I can see someone arguing that there are too many champions for a new player to join right now, but this is a joke.
ive played for longer and theres like over 150 champions and i know every single ability from every single character, what key to press to activate it, and what it does and what its named. and im not even nolifing the game. its really not hard to just have this integrated in your head if you just play for a bit longer. they could release marvel rivals with even more heroes and it wouldnt be an issue edit: an average champion has 4 abilities and a passive. that is over 750 abilities that i remember off the top of my head, and then summoner spells on top
wouldn't even consider that guy a "journalist." Thegamer pays 2 cents a word, any writer who does it for that shitty of a rate is either foreign or not worth their salt as a writer or journalist
Honestly no lol If the roster was full of DOUBLE the characters, but they were as ugly & "dIvErSe" as Concord, the exact same "Journalist" would have said how Amazing the game is :^) 🤡
nevermind the fact that Marvel has a whole ass BACKLOG of characters that can be added. oh, they used all the A-List characters? alright, start bringing in the more obscure ones, like Darkhawk for example. you can tell they were stretching more than Reed Richards for something to talk shit about
@@shimmyking4 In what world did they use all of the A-List characters in the first place? We don't even have all of the Guardians or Avengers and we're missing like 80% of the X-men.
@shimmyking4 Agree, plus there are still alot of A list characters still not in the game, from just the Xmen you got (cyclop, jean grey, deadpool, gambit, iceman, colossus, nightcrawler and etc)
Netease Dev: "Man I am so ready to put Wolverine into the game, it's gonna be so awesome!" Other Netease Dev: "He's already in the game, dude." Netease Dev: "We are SO SCREWED."
It makes sense actually if you are willing to look at it from their awful perspective. Things that players will like are supposed to be held back to be used as a potential bargaining chip. It's the philosophy of being as horrible to the customer as you possibly can get away with.
@@anodyne4670 Yeah, come to think of it, this makes a lot of sense from the publisher perspective... create a problem (scarcity) and then make the player pay to solve it (with new stuff). From the perspective of a games journalist, though? I guess if they are rooting for the publisher to make money rather than rooting for the games industry as a whole or for players as a whole, that makes sense? Thankfully Rivals is so much fun and has such amazing character design, people will throw money at cosmetics, so it's a trivial worry at worst.
They gave us heroes for free, battle passes we can return to at any point, with free skins... disgusting - US games "journalists" Stick to doing horrible guides and check lists. 😂
it ISNT STUFFED, it has hardly any maps or game modes lol, it's just as empty if not more than overwatch was which was really bad too so much they apologized and said updates would be free to bring the game up to par. Everyone was mad at Blizzard. This game is not stuffed lol. Having a decent amount of playable characters means nothing when there isn't enough content to play them with. There are what 6-8 maps and two game modes for a multiplayer only game? Get out of here with this stuffed game absurdity. This is free to play garbage for a reason.
"Game has too many characters" the only reason I'm still playing is because of all the characters. I have 3 at lord.. get bored and learn someone else.
they are mad ALL their games failed. so they find excuses to shit on good ones and try to gaslight while also shouting into their echo chambers. so manipulative i hate it.
Meanwhile I am bored after a month and waiting for new heroes. Kinda sad that they dont give 4 at launch of s1 (it will be 2/2later) and that its not 6-8 heroes for this season. No Ultron, no Blade, no Emma Frost, no Hit-Monkey, no Phoenix, no Modok. Leaks have failed me.
It’s kind of like how companies purposely make a product bad to get more profit in the long run, but in the entertainment industry that’s a really stupid idea.
Marvel has almost 20,000 characters in their lore. Thousands of storylines to choose from, hell they can make their own stories too as long as they’re good. They’re not gonna run out of content any time soon.
They could add like 10 other Spider-men variants alone that'll still pull in more players. That's just a tiny tip of the iceberg. I'm looking forward to more X-Men characters myself.
@@GooseMonkey. why would they do that??? They’d be handicapping themselves cuz they have almost infinite potential for characters. If and a giant if they somehow run out of characters, they can just make new ones that are interesting and make sense. But like I think I get ur side tho cuz like for balance and stuff they’d have to limit their character choices but I think it’d be at least 100 or so before that probably happens🤷♂️
@@keystrix3704 fr like they have so many X-men, Inhumans, etc. characters to pull from. They have almost 100 years of content to draw from and they’ve showed that they’re willing to take risks with non popular characters like Jeff, majik, Luna snow, peni, etc.
Meanwhile, League of Legends is out here with 169 champions. Lol isn't a team-based fps, but it's still 169 different characters you need to learn the skills of if you truly want to reach the highest heights of competitive play.
You don't really need to learn much besides knowing what skills they have in LoL. Dota 2 however.. Of course, gamejournos do not play either of the games so..
Yeah, and well that's on part nice, but on the other hand it makes it very hard to a new player to enter. I tried to learn LoL so many times but I just don't have enought time to be able to learn everything about the game as it is right now and for me that have been always a big barrier to start playing lol. Personally, I don't think this will be a problem on MR, mainly because of their philosophy of not tranforming the game into a competitive focused thing, which will not demand for them perfectly designed heroes or mantaining a good balance, something impossible to do if you release 4-5 characters every 3 months. But the main problem I can have with this is that, if they continue with this ratio of releases, that means they will be developing a character every 2-3 weeks, and if they don't have enought time to try every character and test how they work in the game, maybr someday they can release their own OG Brigitte type of character, and man, I don't desire that for any successful game on the industry. At least MR has a ban system, so, it wouldn't be as bad as OW Brigitte moment. But let's see how this evolve.
The level of cope is incredible. They WANT this game to fail. A massive roster = bad, free to play = bad, hot characters = bad. They are trying to undo reverse anything that sounds good into a problem. Their bias is extremely evident. It's like your family member that doesn't like something because a person that they hate likes that particular thing.
"... doesn't like something because a person that they hate likes that particular thing" pretty sure thats the exact mindset these journos and shills have actually "thing we dont agree with is popular? Well acktually thing is bad and its everyone else that is wrong and also the problem" its ironic considering its marvel, i expected it to be the other way around for this one. maybe in a week or two they'll suddenly do a 180 "for no reason at all" and start singing its praises instead lol
No one is coming to mind from Marvel fitting that description (I'm sure there are) but it couldn't hurt to have more than the one female hero (Squirrel Girl) with a body type that isn't super slim when the male heroes have so much diversity in their builds. Closest to a second is Magik while in her ult or that you never see Peni outside the mech in a match
I get their pov on the matter since ow is it's own original concept where marvel rivals isn't. I'm not talking about game design here obviously. It will be interesting to see where this goes but I don't think it was a bad decision to release the amount of content they did at release. It's what helped make the game popular. I'm sure they thought this through prior to adding everyone they did. Only time will tell if they'll run out of marvel characters but until then, let's just enjoy the ride.
That is pure pro-Corporate propaganda, lmao. From like 2010 to still now; gamers have been b@#$hing that games nowadays purposely cut out content from a full game so they can sell the remaining parts for upcoming DLC. No one's ever been like, "This game has too much to enjoy!" "You think you hate Journalists, but you don't. You don't nearly hate them enough." - Auron MacIntyre.
....Omfg; it goes without saying I'm talking about *_American_* Corporations - ones that have established a foothold in the American Market. Netease is a CCP/Mainland-Chinese Company: right now their #1 goal is to establish themselves in the American Video Game Market. Once they get big and stable enough within it; you can bet your sweet ass they'll have similar sentiments as this article so they have less costs to make a profit. As of right now, Netease is obviously an exception. Gotta hand-hold some mfers through every single detail sometimes, JFC. *_"Pro-American/Western-Corporation"_* happy?
@@blueberrymcphuckerson9821 Netease is already sponsoring western outlets and streamers. If the journalists were purely money motivated, netease is already willing to provide. The country distinction is actually critical and the corporation part is rendered irrelevant by the fact that all parties you're trying to compare are megacorps.
@@davidy22 ...Sponsoring Outlets & Streamers ≠ their own video game competing in the American Market. Thanks for tacitly admitting you're dense. Go work on your Reading-Comprehension skills - specifically on the topic of Context-Clues.
Well, i get what they are trying to say. Marvel Rivals already has most of the iconic heroes and even if marvel has tons of characters to add only few of them are really popular. BUT the thing is that Marvel Rivals can make even not popular hero quite the opposite. Like, who tf knew about squirrel girl (talking about regular players, not a die hard marvel fans) before this game? Same with Jeff and lots of other ones.
"We don't have any genuine complaints so we are going to say the fact it's not screwing it's players over and giving them plenty of choice is bad so we can make rent."
0:34 Obvious tourist is obvious. Marvel still has zillion big name characters to be added. X-Men alone could easily get some 100 new ones and that's not mentioning any deep cuts like Fin Fang Foom. And you know what you do when you don't have any more "big names"? You take the small ones and make them big. Not even comic book nerds cared about Guardians of the Galaxy before the 2014 movie. Oh, and hey, let's bring up the fact that Alien and Predator are basically Marvel-adjacent characters now. They've always had crossovers (usually with DC), but since Disney bought Fox Wolverine fought Predator and Avengers battled Aliens, at least.
to be fair I still don't care about gotg. They are the most out of place franchise within marvel with the weakest roster(of heroes not actors) who seemingly only got picked up to have deep tie-ins and back lore to space and thanos
@@klobe9fair, you don't, but they were a great addition to the MCU. They blow up the weirdness of the MCU opening the door for any shit to happen after. Nothing would be more absurd than a talking raccoon and tree, if people took that seriously they could take anyone and any concept from the comics and on filme. Without the guardians having been a success Avengers Infinity War and and Endgame would be very different and more "grounded" films like the two first Avengers. Also Guardian/Avengers interaction were one of the best parts of those films. The guardians have more charisma potential than most of the space roster of the Marvel Universe. Eternals are boring for example.
journalists playing overwatch 2: for new players, most of the characters are locked and this sucks journalists playing marvel rivals: for new players, all characters are unlocked off the bat and this sucks
journalists playing a game where you need to hold W to move forward in a straight corridor and win: how do I play this game, I don't see yellow paint telling me where to go
@PhysPushscale yeah that was funny as hell. Like dude it was put there just for you in the first place. Because "journalists" aren't gamers, they are failed writers who simply found any job and watching them play is truly painful.
I mean if the game is good it doesn't matter if they don't have new heroes to add also there will be so many heroes before they run out that it doesn't matter
LOLOLOLOL. Riot games released League of Legends with 40 champions. It now has over 130 and still continues to be one of the most popular games out there. I can reason with someone claiming there are too many champions for a new player that joins NOW, but this is a joke.
League has too many champions. I play the game from the start, if I wanted to get back into it now, I would not want to because there would be too many new heroes and most of the old ones I like are now obsolete. They're just making champions that are old champion + 13 new things for no reason, just crazy power creep. Copy paste champion + dash + lifesteal and make them all girls so we can sell catgirl and popstar skins. Marvel Rivals actually have fun abilities. I don't even follow Marvel stuff, never was into superheroes, but this game is good. Plus League has itemization, and items change all the time, so I can't just jump into the game, I have to follow guides first otherwise I'll have a horrible time with bad default recommended items. I feel like Marvel Rivals just got rid of all this redundancy with itemization and punishment for death. Death should be enough of a punishment for dying, not rewarding the enemy with more power so the game is even more one sided and people go afk and then I have to sit through an obviously lost game.
@lemonstealinghorse This is a skill issue. MOBAs regardless of how many changes happen to them, they all revolve around the same thing. If you're a veteran like you claim, when a new item is added, just by looking at the stats and you'd already know which champions fit the item. Same goes for new champs, you read their skills and you can already figure out which item fits them. How good you are will always depend on how much time you put into them. MOBAs always have high learning curves to get into, but once you're in, it's easy to get the hang of it.
@lemonstealinghorse Casual gamer spotted. Nothing wrong with that, but don't hate on competitive games because they reward the better player lol. Having items and gold also balances out team diffs, as if you're good enough you just steamroll everyone. (If I play in Gold/Silver I can maintain 90% WR very easily, if a pro-player plays in Diamond/Master, they can maintain probably around 75-80% wr) (I do agree with your take on recent champs being too mobility-crept and weeb-bait though)
@@dondracul3056 tHiS iS a SkIlL iSsUe. Bugger off kid. I was Diamond back in season 3 or something. Mofo do you understand how much things have changed since then? Every item is different, you have to read all of them. I'm not about to read all the new champions, what part of this do you not understand? I want to get in a game and have fun, you're just a little child who still sucks on mother's breasts and goes online with hurr durr skill issue. How was anything I said related to skill? I wasn't complaining about being crushed, was I? No it doesn't. Literally just look at Marvel Rivals, no high learning curve. Very straightforward to get into, short games so I don't have to have a commitment to something that could go on for an hour or longer.
These Urinalists are crazy. "Yeah they released all characters at once, that's bad. Release half of them now and add them one by one to make it more popular." and other than being absolutely anti-consumer and out of context, they are a little right? Like the idea that people LIKE having new heroes added like every few weeks. But still, the roster is by no means overfilled nor is Marvel Rivals running out of things to add. After all, Deadpool is already basically guaranteed to be added soon^tm.
The ONLY point I could MAYBE see this article having is that the game is a little front-loaded - a lot of the big-name characters were in there on Day 1. While Marvel still has a whole multiverse of characters to choose from, putting the most popular ones in from the start means they might have to go further afield later on and fans might not be super interested in later seasons.
"There's too much game in this game! How dare you actually give me my money's worth! I DEMAND you strip this down until its a barely functional MVP like every other live service game, then make me pay an arm and a leg for every tiny scrap of extra content!" Seriously... Modern "AAA" and F2P fans are just sad to watch. Like a brow beaten spouse who can't help but go back to their abusive ex over and over.
If they wanted to argue this route there’s only one stable argument, and that is over working ppl to get a lot of content out, but clearly that’s not what they are talking about
With so much talk about "we're making a games for everyone" that modern studios and journalists want to push, they really don't like when a game actually is for everyone. "They're adding too many characters" oh sweet, sounds like there will be some representation for everyone. Isn't this what the journalists wanted?
To be clear, the article is written from the standpoint of "There's not enough content being artificially held back for future DLC and battlepasses in order to artificially extend the games lifecycle by releasing the content when hype starts dying down" It's basically complaining that it's not using the same live service strategy all the other live service games use, and instead is frontloading the game with boatloads of content, from what I can tell of the article. This is despite the fact that because Marvel as a setting is ABSOLUTELY MASSIVE with the amount of things they already have, they can afford to both frontload it like this AND have future content.
We don't even have - Black Cat, Domino, She hulk, Wasp, Electra, Enchantress, MsMarvel, Rogue, Jean Gray, Nebula, Gamora, Quasar, Klea, Satana, white Valkyrie , Titania, X23, Emma Frost, Kitty Oride, america Chaves, Sif, Mystique , Black Swan, Medusa, Gwenpool, Lady Deadpool, White Tiger, Songbird, MoonLight, Silk, Viper, Jessica Jones, SpiderGwen, MaryJane, Angela , proxima midnight, 9999.. X-women, venom girls, Spider girls.. And tons and tons of unique costumes for them...
I think it was a thirst comment, lol. Still hits the point. Those are all women, and that's a lot of new content to add. Each coukd easily pair up with an unnamed male coubter part and then that's more character content.@ShannaraTech
It’s so funny how they forget about the circa 500 characters associated with spider-man, Just Spider-Man characters could supply the game with new content for years
Its kinda true because when marvel starts putting the second human torch (the original one that fought namor the submariner) in the game, people will think they ran out of content because they are rehashing the same characters. Even though those two are different, they arent different enough. People will still play but i think it will reach a colossal drop off point after the "new toy effect" wears off.
MSM games journalists are full of it and have been for a while. Having "too much content" isn't really a problem for a brand new game (or any game) that's doing really well.
Bro, these idiot journalists are complaining they aren't milking the system?!?! ITS THE ONLY REASON I BOTHERED TO PLAY, because I wasn't being forced to play 1 of 4 characters.
What the hell are they talking about, X-Men alone could probably double the roster, Fantastic Four, Blade, more avengers and I'm only thinking on the _hero_ side the villain gallery is equally rediculous.
marvel rivals is not something like other hero shooters or mobas that have original characters, rivals has already known and established characters so players actually prefer if their favorite heroes are already in the game
Tbh I don't know 80% of them, I know very little about Marvel, and the ones I knew weren't for me. Ended up liking Scarlet Witch the most, never heard of her before.
@lemonstealinghorse yeah, that's fair, not everybody's gonna know most of the superheroes, it's just that it's better to start with plenty of popular and non-popular superheroes right from the beginning than not as marvel fans would most likely be familiar of them and they would expectedly prefer that to be the case
@lostboy3542 Yeah agreed, but really I don't think there are too many heroes anyway. People usually like to stick to a role, and when you really look at it there's a handful of choices per role, duelists being most numerous I believe. My main hope is that they don't just release for the sake of releasing, but they do stuff which feels different in a meaningful way. I hope old ones don't become obsolete
My only issue with the game is that out of 33 characters, there's some how less than 10 support/healer characters. Of the 21 from OW's launch, there was 4. But unlike MR, it had 4 subdivisions of classes(Offense, Defense, Tank, Support). In other words, my issue is class balance.
"They can't capitilize on new characters because they already gave us those characters!" It reads like someone getting mad that pharma companies can't spueeze more money out of you because they already gave you a free dose. What the hell? They're complaining that it didn't take them longer to add the characters they wanted
I can agree to an extent. They have a ton of hero's yeah, but they're not distributed appropriately. Got like 6 tanks and 20ish damage hero's. Hopefully the new ones fix that.
@@LemonLime-k3o True. For example, Most of the symbiotes play exactly the same so theres no point adding all of em. My heart sank when they added Anti Venom as a low grade skin tho
Ive played rivals almost every day since it released and have only used about 10 characters. Now, I try to use a new one every so often and it's always fun, even if i lose, cause it forces me to out of my comfort zone. I can't wait for even more characters and I know there are lots of great ones left in the marvel roster (I'm looking at you deadpool)
Even if they never added characters which they could do. They could still release new costumes and retool the meta so people gravitate to different the characters in the new seasons. They could even associate character abilities with costumes so that it plays differently depending on the costume you pick.
Marvel Rivals starting roster had Squirrel Girl. Squirrel Girl! Don’t get me wrong, I love her as a character, but she’s had like 1 major appearance outside the comics, she’s pretty obscure to most people and they already love her. If they can get an obscure character on their initial roster and get people to love them almost instantly, they aren’t gonna be hard up for content, just think of all the cool powers and designs they have to work with! Dreamwalker, Awesome Andy, Vapor, just to name a few, and they have thousands! Marvel Rivals uphill battle is more likely having all these characters mechanics play nice with each other in such a chaotic game.
They are just mad that a game that is actually complete and doesn’t have forced DEI in it is actually successful rather than a game broken on release with no features and has toxic people in it everyone hates that sprouts their agenda.
and league is most unbalanced piece of shit game but still rocks on top, delusional comparison, non the less in marvel rivals all characters are accessive at once
Overlooking the fact they brough in some not-so-popular characters, like Jeff, Luna Snow, Peni Parker Magick and Cloak And Dagger. They still have some big names to add that will definately keep the game popular for a few years still.
I would say not-well-known characters instead. The popularity of these characters comes from their presentation and execution. And with characters like Luna Snow, oh my.
@@MassKezEffect6 yeah Luna Snow is great. Looks great, plays great, can carry the team. Maybe not as well as that Jeff mofo does, but Jeff doesn't have dat ass.
“there is less potential for future additions, and some of its biggest names can’t be capitalized on because they’ve been here the entire time.” Ant-Man, Blade, Cable, Captain Marvel, Carnage, Charles Xavier, Daredevil, Deadpool, Doctor Octopus, Drax, Dr. Doom, Electro, Electra, Falcon, Gambit, Gamora, Ghost, Green Goblin, Gwenpool, Howard the Duck, Kang the Conqueror, the Kingpin, Kraven the Hunter, the Mandarin, Ms. Marvel, Morbius, Mysterio, Nebula, *Nick Fury,* Nightcrawler, the Lizard, the Prowler, Quicksilver, Ronan the Accuser, Red Skull, the Rhino, Rouge, Sabertooth, Scorpion, Shang-Chi, She-Hulk, Shocker, Spider-Man 2099, Spider-Man (Miles Morales), Spider-Gwen, the Spot, Thanos, Vision, the Vulture, the Wasp, War Machine, Ultron, X-23, Yondu, and of course The Big Wheel. These are just the popular or well known ones, and literally several years-worth of characters. Marvel is not running out of them anytime soon. (also if you play a full team of spider-man villains you should get an achievement called “Sinister 6”).
They even implemented a hard counter to tripple tank/support groups in Wolverine, making sure that the tank meta that killed Overwatch will never happen in their game.
@@TapiKoks and you can hard counter Scarlett with hela. I love how the game has checks and balances, as long as your team uses more than one braincell, it's easy to adapt to the situation. A loss is usually because the other team was better, not because they had some bullshit like overwatch does with some of their meta strats that caused overwatch to be dogshite in the first place.
You should watch the video on CoD running in the background even when you close to desktop, apparently to inflate playtime numbers for shareholders. It also means that you can't get a refund, because your playtime is artificially increased past the return policy limit.
Let's point out all of the main mcu characters that aren't in the game yet. Ant-Man Wasp War Machine Drax Captain Marvel Shang-Chi Whoever any of the eternals are Jane Foster Ms Marvel Deadpool And that's not including villains (Rivals 100% needs playable doom, thanos, ultron etc.)
tho i kinda do get their point. Some characters will be obsolete, there are several paladins characters who have been left in the dust forgotten for years because they werent meta. so while marvel wont run out of characters, they will run out of... space. immagine youre a newbie and 7th match in the row, yet you havent played against the same character twice, you get confused and quit, or the balancing goes out of the window and the character you like, simply goes obsolete and forgotten, never to recieve a bug fix or a patch. I havent played paladins for like 5 years, recently i hopped in and played pip, its excatly as i remember him to be, no nerfs. no buffs, noone else ever picks him, no new skins, nothing.
"and some of its biggest names can't be capitalized on because they've been here the entire time." Jeff the Shark: A Marvel character most people didn't even know existed but quickly became an all time favorite (or hated💀) among the community Journalist see this happen and still think that Marvel Rivals will run out of characters to be capitalized on? Are they fr 😭💀
Meanwhile Multiversus is slowing fading into obscurity because despite having the library of Warner Bros behind them, they don't release ENOUGH content to keep players hooked.
fighting games will always be niche. shooter games is so easy and simple. 2nd amend. Even in carnivals/arcade people love to play shooter not the fighting games.
Some upcoming Marvel Rivals characters are: 😇-Angela 🦇-Blade 💎-Emma Frost 🐒-Hit-Monkey 💀-The Hood 🐣-Pheonix/Jean Grey 🤖-Ultron With Fantastic 4 Marvel Rivals got 37 characters. Add those listed above and you have more than Overwatch.
I haven't played Overwatch or Marvel Rivals, so I'm unclear as to how specifically new heroes are usually added. So correct me if I'm wrong, but is this guy complaining that he doesn't have to pay for as much new content because there's shitloads front and center at launch?
Of course they added all of the big name characters first, doing that draws attention to the game when you get to play as your favorite super heroes, but by adding smaller character they have more room to innovate with them, I'd argue the did that with Moon Knight and Hela (still two pretty big characters, but relatively small in comparison to the others) by making them pretty popular choices.
i kind if get where the article is coming from, If marvel rivals continues to be successful for years and add more and more characters, it will be incredibly difficult to balance so many characters, a great example of this is a mobile game called marvel contest of champions, it has over 300 characters and still adding more each month while there are other characters that havent been updated in years, hopefully net ease can handle a massive roster
Honestly, I’d love to see Rivals add in completely new, original characters alongside the existing ones. The fact that the game is based on multiple universes colliding means that they could make an entire separate marvel universe with only new characters to create even more unique stories.
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"It's stuffed with content." HOW IS THAT BAD
Because there is zero balance, in fact it's unbalancable. That's fine for some of the audience, but it's garbage for a lot of it.
Reminds of how some of the higher-ups at Bungie are scared of overdelivery, even if there are devs willing to create more content for Destiny 2.
dont find them any logic.
the Wokespawn are the living avatars of the greater evils of Destruction, Envy and Insanity.
They are lying. It's stuffed with content GAMERS enjoy, that's why they do not honestly. If it was stuffed with double the characters but they were sh*t Concord style players, I am sure 100% the same "Journalist" would have said how Amazing the content is 🤡
@@jasongrundy1717 It's fun because it's broken. Remember when CoD MW2 first released?
Overwatch with 42 characters: "Hero shooter defining"
Rivals with 33 characters: "Overstuffed and complicated"
These "journalists" are such corporate shills and clowns
Netease is also a very large corporation. If you wanted to throw a foul play accusation, corporate shill would not be the correct words
its because overwatch has lgbt characters, which marks it up an additional 50 chromosomes.
@@davidy22 Their being shills for the wrong corporation. If I were them I'd be shilling for the currently succeeding company, not the one everyone hates right now.
@@davidy22sure it would.
"Corporate shill" doesnt mean "all corporations" after all. This journo is literally writing short bitch piece about Netease _not_ charging players hand over fist for new characters and milking the property for every last time. The whole article is just anti-consumer propoganda lol
and also marvel rivals giving 4 more heroes after a month when overwatch gives out 4 heroes after what? 2 years?
LOLOLOLOL. Riot Games released League of Legends with forty heroes. It now boasts over 130 and is one of the most popular games available. I can see someone arguing that there are too many champions for a new player to join right now, but this is a joke.
Was looking for this comment, thank you!
170 with Mel addition xD
ive played for longer and theres like over 150 champions and i know every single ability from every single character, what key to press to activate it, and what it does and what its named. and im not even nolifing the game. its really not hard to just have this integrated in your head if you just play for a bit longer. they could release marvel rivals with even more heroes and it wouldnt be an issue
edit: an average champion has 4 abilities and a passive. that is over 750 abilities that i remember off the top of my head, and then summoner spells on top
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Over 160 in fact
>Have game with your favourite characters
>Game stuffed with content
>Has potential to add even more in the future
>"This is bad actually."
DEI hires
It's bad cause it makes those 100$ unfinished triple A games look bad in comparison with a free game
why do you type like you’re on 4chan?
@@HaIIoweezybro wrong video 😂
@@bigdot2355 It is bad because it is Chinese and west politics don't like that chinese is better
Average journalist L
😮um lol
They just love them L’s
they show their bias every time.
Urinalist **
wouldn't even consider that guy a "journalist." Thegamer pays 2 cents a word, any writer who does it for that shitty of a rate is either foreign or not worth their salt as a writer or journalist
0:54 Yes, that Overwatch drip feed really paid off.
To be fair OW is 9 years old, it lasted longer than most games
And it’s Steam player count is probably the most misleading of any game that has one (not saying Rivals isn’t doing better currently ofc).
@@andrewtharby1953why are you replying to a p*rn bot? You must be old lol
Only game journalist would complain about too much content
Honestly no lol
If the roster was full of DOUBLE the characters, but they were as ugly & "dIvErSe" as Concord, the exact same "Journalist" would have said how Amazing the game is :^)
🤡
Ril @@eldenvedetta635
remind me of the too much water
Of course they would, they dont wanna play afterall
This doesn't even sound like a game journalist, but more like an investor, that sees some profits left on the floor.
"It means less potential for future additions"
Meanwhile Rivals adding MF Fantastic Four and Blade to season 1
It's only the fantastic four as per the dev vid. Mr. Fantastic and Invisible Woman for launch and then the thing and Human torch after 6-7 weeks.
nevermind the fact that Marvel has a whole ass BACKLOG of characters that can be added.
oh, they used all the A-List characters? alright, start bringing in the more obscure ones, like Darkhawk for example. you can tell they were stretching more than Reed Richards for something to talk shit about
@@shimmyking4 In what world did they use all of the A-List characters in the first place? We don't even have all of the Guardians or Avengers and we're missing like 80% of the X-men.
@shimmyking4 Agree, plus there are still alot of A list characters still not in the game, from just the Xmen you got (cyclop, jean grey, deadpool, gambit, iceman, colossus, nightcrawler and etc)
@@giantWario That's IF they somehow use all the A-list characters which is probably not gonna happen for a long, long time.
There’s less room to add new characters because they’ve been here the entire time -Is that a real sentence..?
Netease Dev: "Man I am so ready to put Wolverine into the game, it's gonna be so awesome!"
Other Netease Dev: "He's already in the game, dude."
Netease Dev: "We are SO SCREWED."
It makes sense actually if you are willing to look at it from their awful perspective. Things that players will like are supposed to be held back to be used as a potential bargaining chip.
It's the philosophy of being as horrible to the customer as you possibly can get away with.
@@anodyne4670 Yeah, come to think of it, this makes a lot of sense from the publisher perspective... create a problem (scarcity) and then make the player pay to solve it (with new stuff). From the perspective of a games journalist, though? I guess if they are rooting for the publisher to make money rather than rooting for the games industry as a whole or for players as a whole, that makes sense? Thankfully Rivals is so much fun and has such amazing character design, people will throw money at cosmetics, so it's a trivial worry at worst.
We've become so used to games being carved up and sold to us gradually in a predatory drip feed that a game actually launching with stuff is radical
"New popular game has a lot of content from the start, and that's a bad thing."
Like, how does someone think this way? 😂
They gave us heroes for free, battle passes we can return to at any point, with free skins... disgusting - US games "journalists"
Stick to doing horrible guides and check lists. 😂
I was beta testing for a game with decent popularity on steam and man they had TWO battle passes ready in advance of the current one. Its wild.
it ISNT STUFFED, it has hardly any maps or game modes lol, it's just as empty if not more than overwatch was which was really bad too so much they apologized and said updates would be free to bring the game up to par. Everyone was mad at Blizzard. This game is not stuffed lol. Having a decent amount of playable characters means nothing when there isn't enough content to play them with. There are what 6-8 maps and two game modes for a multiplayer only game? Get out of here with this stuffed game absurdity. This is free to play garbage for a reason.
"Game has too many characters" the only reason I'm still playing is because of all the characters. I have 3 at lord.. get bored and learn someone else.
They are mad they can't compete
They said diversity bad
@@thedesk954 Diversity is always good. MR and Overwatch have diverse rosters.
@@VaMage yet journos hating on marvelnrivals
Diversity is always bad. Always.
they are mad ALL their games failed. so they find excuses to shit on good ones and try to gaslight while also shouting into their echo chambers. so manipulative i hate it.
This just says a lot about modern gaming "it has too much content at at launch in gamers don't want that"
Meanwhile I am bored after a month and waiting for new heroes. Kinda sad that they dont give 4 at launch of s1 (it will be 2/2later) and that its not 6-8 heroes for this season. No Ultron, no Blade, no Emma Frost, no Hit-Monkey, no Phoenix, no Modok. Leaks have failed me.
It’s kind of like how companies purposely make a product bad to get more profit in the long run, but in the entertainment industry that’s a really stupid idea.
What? A free game with more content than a 100$ triple a unfinished game that any triple A Corp made is bad??? whaaat?!
More content? Bro. It’s literally all the same just different looking. All these games are identical.
well, netease is also tripple a
the playstyle is hero shooter congratulations bro @@ErwinPPP
But the $100 triple a unfinished game has gender profiles! So progressive!
nice pfp🥶
Marvel has almost 20,000 characters in their lore. Thousands of storylines to choose from, hell they can make their own stories too as long as they’re good. They’re not gonna run out of content any time soon.
Yeah tho I’ll guess there’s prob gonna be max 50ish characters in the game
They could add like 10 other Spider-men variants alone that'll still pull in more players. That's just a tiny tip of the iceberg. I'm looking forward to more X-Men characters myself.
@@GooseMonkey. That's biggest cap
@@GooseMonkey. why would they do that??? They’d be handicapping themselves cuz they have almost infinite potential for characters. If and a giant if they somehow run out of characters, they can just make new ones that are interesting and make sense. But like I think I get ur side tho cuz like for balance and stuff they’d have to limit their character choices but I think it’d be at least 100 or so before that probably happens🤷♂️
@@keystrix3704 fr like they have so many X-men, Inhumans, etc. characters to pull from. They have almost 100 years of content to draw from and they’ve showed that they’re willing to take risks with non popular characters like Jeff, majik, Luna snow, peni, etc.
Meanwhile, League of Legends is out here with 169 champions. Lol isn't a team-based fps, but it's still 169 different characters you need to learn the skills of if you truly want to reach the highest heights of competitive play.
You don't really need to learn much besides knowing what skills they have in LoL. Dota 2 however.. Of course, gamejournos do not play either of the games so..
Yeah, and well that's on part nice, but on the other hand it makes it very hard to a new player to enter. I tried to learn LoL so many times but I just don't have enought time to be able to learn everything about the game as it is right now and for me that have been always a big barrier to start playing lol. Personally, I don't think this will be a problem on MR, mainly because of their philosophy of not tranforming the game into a competitive focused thing, which will not demand for them perfectly designed heroes or mantaining a good balance, something impossible to do if you release 4-5 characters every 3 months. But the main problem I can have with this is that, if they continue with this ratio of releases, that means they will be developing a character every 2-3 weeks, and if they don't have enought time to try every character and test how they work in the game, maybr someday they can release their own OG Brigitte type of character, and man, I don't desire that for any successful game on the industry. At least MR has a ban system, so, it wouldn't be as bad as OW Brigitte moment. But let's see how this evolve.
The level of cope is incredible. They WANT this game to fail. A massive roster = bad, free to play = bad, hot characters = bad. They are trying to undo reverse anything that sounds good into a problem. Their bias is extremely evident. It's like your family member that doesn't like something because a person that they hate likes that particular thing.
I think the community bias is just as hard as the "bias" you talk about here with journalists, personally.
@@Xfacta12482 You are reaching. It's not even on the same level.
"... doesn't like something because a person that they hate likes that particular thing"
pretty sure thats the exact mindset these journos and shills have actually
"thing we dont agree with is popular? Well acktually thing is bad and its everyone else that is wrong and also the problem"
its ironic considering its marvel, i expected it to be the other way around for this one. maybe in a week or two they'll suddenly do a 180 "for no reason at all" and start singing its praises instead lol
@@Xfacta12482 I feel like the only bias the community can have is liking games that are good
I want it to fail, I hate Marvel.
Marvel rivals has Jeff (My favorite racist shark) while overwatch has nothing.
Overwatch used to have Jeff 😢
No dragons though, L game 🐉
Edit: chat if it's not scales and tails it's not a derg, iron fist is not a dragon 🐉 he is a human 👨🌾 with abs
@@lamegamertime squirrel girl has a dragon skin so W
Overwatch keeps making changes to the characters know one asked for
I know of ONE thing Overwatch has.
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This is what happens when you get used to incomplete games releasing
Theyre just mad theres no thugnificent looking woman in the game like concord
How dare you assume thuggydingdongs gender 🤡
Thugnificent 😂😂
No one is coming to mind from Marvel fitting that description (I'm sure there are) but it couldn't hurt to have more than the one female hero (Squirrel Girl) with a body type that isn't super slim when the male heroes have so much diversity in their builds. Closest to a second is Magik while in her ult or that you never see Peni outside the mech in a match
@@aaronolson6736 squrrel girl looks like that because THATS WHAT SHE LOOKS LIKE IN THE COMICS
The thug shaker, do the rump shaker
These Journos must have Brain Rot.
a brain is required for brain rot.
Bro, they own the Brain Rot.
I thought they have no brains.
@@WittingStudios Bruh, they INVENTED Brain Rot
Skibidi toilet?
I get their pov on the matter since ow is it's own original concept where marvel rivals isn't. I'm not talking about game design here obviously. It will be interesting to see where this goes but I don't think it was a bad decision to release the amount of content they did at release. It's what helped make the game popular.
I'm sure they thought this through prior to adding everyone they did.
Only time will tell if they'll run out of marvel characters but until then, let's just enjoy the ride.
"It's too good, it'll be bad later."
and then they'll add: "want to know how to keep it from getting bad? Hire this consultancy firm!"
bingo
even if the player numbers shrink - it would still be more popular compared to whatevere western garbage they spew out in AAA market
@@wilburhernandez6904 how to make it good
tip 1 - charge money for every character
Tip 2 - do not give a f*cl about what players want.
Just for reference, Marvel has over 3,000 named characters.
more like 7000
cant wait to play as James Jonah Jameson
@@billwilson7841I could honestly see them adding a bunch of side characters in an April Fools patch
@@billwilson7841Can't wait to play as the masketta man
Try 8000
There is over 700 characters they can use not including the multiverse 80,000 characters I don't think this will be an issue
They can also use Crossover characters, imagine Ryu, Chun Li, Megaman or even TMNT, Hellboy, DC Characters from their comic crossovers...
That is pure pro-Corporate propaganda, lmao. From like 2010 to still now; gamers have been b@#$hing that games nowadays purposely cut out content from a full game so they can sell the remaining parts for upcoming DLC. No one's ever been like, "This game has too much to enjoy!"
"You think you hate Journalists, but you don't. You don't nearly hate them enough." - Auron MacIntyre.
Netease is a larger corporation than Activision. The word you're looking for isn't "pro-corporate"
....Omfg; it goes without saying I'm talking about *_American_* Corporations - ones that have established a foothold in the American Market. Netease is a CCP/Mainland-Chinese Company: right now their #1 goal is to establish themselves in the American Video Game Market. Once they get big and stable enough within it; you can bet your sweet ass they'll have similar sentiments as this article so they have less costs to make a profit. As of right now, Netease is obviously an exception.
Gotta hand-hold some mfers through every single detail sometimes, JFC. *_"Pro-American/Western-Corporation"_* happy?
And Netease, which has twice the yearly revenue of blizzard, isn't corporate? 😂
@@blueberrymcphuckerson9821 Netease is already sponsoring western outlets and streamers. If the journalists were purely money motivated, netease is already willing to provide. The country distinction is actually critical and the corporation part is rendered irrelevant by the fact that all parties you're trying to compare are megacorps.
@@davidy22 ...Sponsoring Outlets & Streamers ≠ their own video game competing in the American Market. Thanks for tacitly admitting you're dense. Go work on your Reading-Comprehension skills - specifically on the topic of Context-Clues.
Meanwhile Smash Ultimate with _89 characters_
Imagine a new one
They had to stop there because there’s only 89 characters that exist. Now there’s no room for a sequel. Bad move.
Meanwhile league of legends : 169 champions 💀
Meanwhile Pokemon has 1025 monsters
Not "just" 89 characters, 89 "HANDPICKED" characters.
Well, i get what they are trying to say. Marvel Rivals already has most of the iconic heroes and even if marvel has tons of characters to add only few of them are really popular. BUT the thing is that Marvel Rivals can make even not popular hero quite the opposite. Like, who tf knew about squirrel girl (talking about regular players, not a die hard marvel fans) before this game? Same with Jeff and lots of other ones.
"We don't have any genuine complaints so we are going to say the fact it's not screwing it's players over and giving them plenty of choice is bad so we can make rent."
This article sounds like an investor complaining, as he sees porential profits lost.
0:34 Obvious tourist is obvious. Marvel still has zillion big name characters to be added. X-Men alone could easily get some 100 new ones and that's not mentioning any deep cuts like Fin Fang Foom. And you know what you do when you don't have any more "big names"? You take the small ones and make them big. Not even comic book nerds cared about Guardians of the Galaxy before the 2014 movie.
Oh, and hey, let's bring up the fact that Alien and Predator are basically Marvel-adjacent characters now. They've always had crossovers (usually with DC), but since Disney bought Fox Wolverine fought Predator and Avengers battled Aliens, at least.
to be fair I still don't care about gotg. They are the most out of place franchise within marvel with the weakest roster(of heroes not actors) who seemingly only got picked up to have deep tie-ins and back lore to space and thanos
I wanna play as fin fang foom
This is how we spot someone who has never had a childhood in playing videogames or any hobbies in nerd or geek culture.
@@klobe9well if most people didn’t care they would have never made a trilogy
@@klobe9fair, you don't, but they were a great addition to the MCU. They blow up the weirdness of the MCU opening the door for any shit to happen after. Nothing would be more absurd than a talking raccoon and tree, if people took that seriously they could take anyone and any concept from the comics and on filme. Without the guardians having been a success Avengers Infinity War and and Endgame would be very different and more "grounded" films like the two first Avengers. Also Guardian/Avengers interaction were one of the best parts of those films. The guardians have more charisma potential than most of the space roster of the Marvel Universe. Eternals are boring for example.
This is like pokemon's "too much water" critic
journalists playing overwatch 2: for new players, most of the characters are locked and this sucks
journalists playing marvel rivals: for new players, all characters are unlocked off the bat and this sucks
It's not locked anymore
journalists playing a game where you need to hold W to move forward in a straight corridor and win: how do I play this game, I don't see yellow paint telling me where to go
@@wrmusic8736 the best example for journalist incompetence will always be the Cuphead tutorial.
@@wrmusic8736 After that they say. The yellow paint has to stop, its ruining games. I think this was couple of weeks ago.
@PhysPushscale yeah that was funny as hell. Like dude it was put there just for you in the first place.
Because "journalists" aren't gamers, they are failed writers who simply found any job and watching them play is truly painful.
"33 heroes are too many for its own good"
some other games with 120+ heroes to play : "are we jokes to you?"
How many champions does League of Legends have? Im pretty sure Marvel has over 80,000 characters they can pick from some more popular than the other
@@argotic8378 163 in league
@@argotic8378 170, I think? Either now, or the next one to be added is 170.
Yeah. "Too many characters; people will give up and quit playing." Pfft.
@@David-id6jw Where did you get 170? From what I've researched it's 70,000 - 80,000+ Marvel Characters in the multiverse
@@argotic8378170 as in League champions
Marvel has 7000 characters in their comics and they are still making more. 50000 if you add in one time and secondary villians.
The title 'game journalist' has become synonymous with 'mentally ill'
That's just insulting to mentally ill people lol
yup. all a bunch of woke lunatics.
i wish they never shut down asylums. we need to reopen them.
that's an insult to mentally ill people
I wrote that last two words. YT removed my comment
0:20 huh so these half baked cookie cutter games that been coming out we're for the journos so they won't get over simulated
Game journalists must like the dripfeed
I mean if the game is good it doesn't matter if they don't have new heroes to add also there will be so many heroes before they run out that it doesn't matter
If Rivals limited their rooster that would be so bad.
Yeeeaaaaaaa, they've come to snuff the roooooooster!
What MR needs is pool of LoL with 150+ heroes
Chickens have come to roost
When I am at a "spat bullshi*t for arguments" fight and my opponent is a game journalist :
LOLOLOLOL. Riot games released League of Legends with 40 champions. It now has over 130 and still continues to be one of the most popular games out there. I can reason with someone claiming there are too many champions for a new player that joins NOW, but this is a joke.
over 130 sounds like there are less then 140 but there are 169 champs right now
League has too many champions. I play the game from the start, if I wanted to get back into it now, I would not want to because there would be too many new heroes and most of the old ones I like are now obsolete. They're just making champions that are old champion + 13 new things for no reason, just crazy power creep. Copy paste champion + dash + lifesteal and make them all girls so we can sell catgirl and popstar skins.
Marvel Rivals actually have fun abilities. I don't even follow Marvel stuff, never was into superheroes, but this game is good.
Plus League has itemization, and items change all the time, so I can't just jump into the game, I have to follow guides first otherwise I'll have a horrible time with bad default recommended items. I feel like Marvel Rivals just got rid of all this redundancy with itemization and punishment for death. Death should be enough of a punishment for dying, not rewarding the enemy with more power so the game is even more one sided and people go afk and then I have to sit through an obviously lost game.
@lemonstealinghorse This is a skill issue. MOBAs regardless of how many changes happen to them, they all revolve around the same thing. If you're a veteran like you claim, when a new item is added, just by looking at the stats and you'd already know which champions fit the item. Same goes for new champs, you read their skills and you can already figure out which item fits them. How good you are will always depend on how much time you put into them.
MOBAs always have high learning curves to get into, but once you're in, it's easy to get the hang of it.
@lemonstealinghorse Casual gamer spotted. Nothing wrong with that, but don't hate on competitive games because they reward the better player lol. Having items and gold also balances out team diffs, as if you're good enough you just steamroll everyone. (If I play in Gold/Silver I can maintain 90% WR very easily, if a pro-player plays in Diamond/Master, they can maintain probably around 75-80% wr)
(I do agree with your take on recent champs being too mobility-crept and weeb-bait though)
@@dondracul3056 tHiS iS a SkIlL iSsUe. Bugger off kid. I was Diamond back in season 3 or something. Mofo do you understand how much things have changed since then? Every item is different, you have to read all of them.
I'm not about to read all the new champions, what part of this do you not understand? I want to get in a game and have fun, you're just a little child who still sucks on mother's breasts and goes online with hurr durr skill issue. How was anything I said related to skill? I wasn't complaining about being crushed, was I?
No it doesn't. Literally just look at Marvel Rivals, no high learning curve. Very straightforward to get into, short games so I don't have to have a commitment to something that could go on for an hour or longer.
Why do we have so many presents under the Christmas tree, mom?!?! I'm not going to have anything to look forward to in the future now!! 😠😠😠
These Urinalists are crazy. "Yeah they released all characters at once, that's bad. Release half of them now and add them one by one to make it more popular." and other than being absolutely anti-consumer and out of context, they are a little right? Like the idea that people LIKE having new heroes added like every few weeks. But still, the roster is by no means overfilled nor is Marvel Rivals running out of things to add. After all, Deadpool is already basically guaranteed to be added soon^tm.
Im stealing Urinalists, thats a good one, sounds like if a finnish person said it
yea too bad game journalists run stuff like "game awards" ppl respect that for some reason
The ONLY point I could MAYBE see this article having is that the game is a little front-loaded - a lot of the big-name characters were in there on Day 1. While Marvel still has a whole multiverse of characters to choose from, putting the most popular ones in from the start means they might have to go further afield later on and fans might not be super interested in later seasons.
Literally remove a SINGLE character and we would see articles like:
Ded game. No content.
Imagining an article that only had the title, that single line and nothing else at all made me cackle a bit.
@pixavier9746 😅
We got to the point where a video game has so much content is considered a bad thing
I mean we already passed the "video game having attractive characters = bad" milestone a while back so that's expected 😅
@@ichigolegend2788 they try now everywhere the "less effort, maximum profit" capitalism.
Are people so deprived of attention from their parents they gotta go online to beg for it
"There's too much game in this game! How dare you actually give me my money's worth! I DEMAND you strip this down until its a barely functional MVP like every other live service game, then make me pay an arm and a leg for every tiny scrap of extra content!"
Seriously... Modern "AAA" and F2P fans are just sad to watch. Like a brow beaten spouse who can't help but go back to their abusive ex over and over.
Weren’t we here already? BG3?
If they wanted to argue this route there’s only one stable argument, and that is over working ppl to get a lot of content out, but clearly that’s not what they are talking about
"There's too much of that stuff I really like!" said no gamer ever.
With so much talk about "we're making a games for everyone" that modern studios and journalists want to push, they really don't like when a game actually is for everyone.
"They're adding too many characters" oh sweet, sounds like there will be some representation for everyone. Isn't this what the journalists wanted?
To be clear, the article is written from the standpoint of "There's not enough content being artificially held back for future DLC and battlepasses in order to artificially extend the games lifecycle by releasing the content when hype starts dying down"
It's basically complaining that it's not using the same live service strategy all the other live service games use, and instead is frontloading the game with boatloads of content, from what I can tell of the article.
This is despite the fact that because Marvel as a setting is ABSOLUTELY MASSIVE with the amount of things they already have, they can afford to both frontload it like this AND have future content.
We don't even have - Black Cat, Domino, She hulk, Wasp, Electra, Enchantress, MsMarvel, Rogue, Jean Gray, Nebula, Gamora, Quasar, Klea, Satana, white Valkyrie , Titania, X23, Emma Frost, Kitty Oride, america Chaves, Sif, Mystique , Black Swan, Medusa, Gwenpool, Lady Deadpool, White Tiger, Songbird, MoonLight, Silk, Viper, Jessica Jones, SpiderGwen, MaryJane, Angela , proxima midnight, 9999.. X-women, venom girls, Spider girls..
And tons and tons of unique costumes for them...
Missed Deadpool, shit would be great. Or maybe everyone would prefer lady.... both, need more akimbo/melee action weave
All women?? 😂
I think it was a thirst comment, lol. Still hits the point. Those are all women, and that's a lot of new content to add. Each coukd easily pair up with an unnamed male coubter part and then that's more character content.@ShannaraTech
and they haven't collab with Bayonetta or Nier or Stellar Blade yet
You forgot about Aunt May.
It’s so funny how they forget about the circa 500 characters associated with spider-man,
Just Spider-Man characters could supply the game with new content for years
Just multiverse Spider-Mans could supply this game for a year+
I think its actually closer to 900
Its kinda true because when marvel starts putting the second human torch (the original one that fought namor the submariner) in the game, people will think they ran out of content because they are rehashing the same characters. Even though those two are different, they arent different enough. People will still play but i think it will reach a colossal drop off point after the "new toy effect" wears off.
MSM games journalists are full of it and have been for a while.
Having "too much content" isn't really a problem for a brand new game (or any game) that's doing really well.
Last time I was this early she never called me back
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Bro, these idiot journalists are complaining they aren't milking the system?!?! ITS THE ONLY REASON I BOTHERED TO PLAY, because I wasn't being forced to play 1 of 4 characters.
Nothing wrong with having more content now.
It makes more for good marketing when comparing with their direct competition.
Rivals: 37 (
What the hell are they talking about, X-Men alone could probably double the roster, Fantastic Four, Blade, more avengers and I'm only thinking on the _hero_ side the villain gallery is equally rediculous.
Not to mention the many variants and costumes for the characters. These "journo" not even know surface level of comics
The amount of characters currently in-game isn't even the tip of the iceberg of the amount of characters there are in Marvel.
The Inhumans and most member of Defenders too. They wont run out of character.
They do have a point, keep adding without properly balancing and you get the point wheres its impossible to balance
that person is overwhelmed when they open the window. obv unable to make decisions
marvel rivals is not something like other hero shooters or mobas that have original characters, rivals has already known and established characters so players actually prefer if their favorite heroes are already in the game
Tbh I don't know 80% of them, I know very little about Marvel, and the ones I knew weren't for me. Ended up liking Scarlet Witch the most, never heard of her before.
@lemonstealinghorse yeah, that's fair, not everybody's gonna know most of the superheroes, it's just that it's better to start with plenty of popular and non-popular superheroes right from the beginning than not as marvel fans would most likely be familiar of them and they would expectedly prefer that to be the case
@lostboy3542 Yeah agreed, but really I don't think there are too many heroes anyway. People usually like to stick to a role, and when you really look at it there's a handful of choices per role, duelists being most numerous I believe.
My main hope is that they don't just release for the sake of releasing, but they do stuff which feels different in a meaningful way. I hope old ones don't become obsolete
My only issue with the game is that out of 33 characters, there's some how less than 10 support/healer characters.
Of the 21 from OW's launch, there was 4. But unlike MR, it had 4 subdivisions of classes(Offense, Defense, Tank, Support).
In other words, my issue is class balance.
1:04 ooooof
"They can't capitilize on new characters because they already gave us those characters!" It reads like someone getting mad that pharma companies can't spueeze more money out of you because they already gave you a free dose. What the hell? They're complaining that it didn't take them longer to add the characters they wanted
I can agree to an extent. They have a ton of hero's yeah, but they're not distributed appropriately. Got like 6 tanks and 20ish damage hero's. Hopefully the new ones fix that.
Marvels other well performing game (marvel snap) has 300+ unique characters.
Im pretty sure they're not gonna run out of characters anytime soon
Let’s not compare characters from a card game to a hero shooter and Marvel have over like 10,000+ characters
they probably wont even add half of those 300 characters as unique heroes, since most of them are so similar. maybe skins?
@@LemonLime-k3o True. For example, Most of the symbiotes play exactly the same so theres no point adding all of em.
My heart sank when they added Anti Venom as a low grade skin tho
Ive played rivals almost every day since it released and have only used about 10 characters. Now, I try to use a new one every so often and it's always fun, even if i lose, cause it forces me to out of my comfort zone. I can't wait for even more characters and I know there are lots of great ones left in the marvel roster (I'm looking at you deadpool)
Even if they never added characters which they could do. They could still release new costumes and retool the meta so people gravitate to different the characters in the new seasons. They could even associate character abilities with costumes so that it plays differently depending on the costume you pick.
Marvel Rivals starting roster had Squirrel Girl. Squirrel Girl! Don’t get me wrong, I love her as a character, but she’s had like 1 major appearance outside the comics, she’s pretty obscure to most people and they already love her. If they can get an obscure character on their initial roster and get people to love them almost instantly, they aren’t gonna be hard up for content, just think of all the cool powers and designs they have to work with! Dreamwalker, Awesome Andy, Vapor, just to name a few, and they have thousands! Marvel Rivals uphill battle is more likely having all these characters mechanics play nice with each other in such a chaotic game.
At least Squirrel Girl was in comics since the 80th. Luna Snow's major appearance before MR was Korean gatcha game from 2019.
@@DrNiradino Can't wait for Koi Boy.
Do not confuse all of this goodness for bloat or filler. Marvel Rivals is at least 90% meat and 10-ish % sauce.
They are just mad that a game that is actually complete and doesn’t have forced DEI in it is actually successful rather than a game broken on release with no features and has toxic people in it everyone hates that sprouts their agenda.
League has like hundreds of champions, which to anyone trying to jump into the game now would seem like 'too much content all at once.'
and league is most unbalanced piece of shit game but still rocks on top, delusional comparison, non the less in marvel rivals all characters are accessive at once
Overlooking the fact they brough in some not-so-popular characters, like Jeff, Luna Snow, Peni Parker Magick and Cloak And Dagger. They still have some big names to add that will definately keep the game popular for a few years still.
I would say not-well-known characters instead. The popularity of these characters comes from their presentation and execution. And with characters like Luna Snow, oh my.
@@MassKezEffect6 yeah Luna Snow is great. Looks great, plays great, can carry the team. Maybe not as well as that Jeff mofo does, but Jeff doesn't have dat ass.
Jeff was the most popular character. more popular than spiderman. you must be living in different universe.
“there is less potential for future additions, and some of its biggest names can’t be capitalized on because they’ve been here the entire time.”
Ant-Man, Blade, Cable, Captain Marvel, Carnage, Charles Xavier, Daredevil, Deadpool, Doctor Octopus, Drax, Dr. Doom, Electro, Electra, Falcon, Gambit, Gamora, Ghost, Green Goblin, Gwenpool, Howard the Duck, Kang the Conqueror, the Kingpin, Kraven the Hunter, the Mandarin, Ms. Marvel, Morbius, Mysterio, Nebula, *Nick Fury,* Nightcrawler, the Lizard, the Prowler, Quicksilver, Ronan the Accuser, Red Skull, the Rhino, Rouge, Sabertooth, Scorpion, Shang-Chi, She-Hulk, Shocker, Spider-Man 2099, Spider-Man (Miles Morales), Spider-Gwen, the Spot, Thanos, Vision, the Vulture, the Wasp, War Machine, Ultron, X-23, Yondu, and of course The Big Wheel.
These are just the popular or well known ones, and literally several years-worth of characters. Marvel is not running out of them anytime soon.
(also if you play a full team of spider-man villains you should get an achievement called “Sinister 6”).
How could they forget the Big Wheel. Goated design
They even implemented a hard counter to tripple tank/support groups in Wolverine, making sure that the tank meta that killed Overwatch will never happen in their game.
And u can hard counter Wolverine with Scarlett Witch.
@@TapiKoks and you can hard counter Scarlett with hela. I love how the game has checks and balances, as long as your team uses more than one braincell, it's easy to adapt to the situation. A loss is usually because the other team was better, not because they had some bullshit like overwatch does with some of their meta strats that caused overwatch to be dogshite in the first place.
The type of guy who would prefer 8 characters in a fighting game and have the rest as paid DLC.
no type of guy who plays CSGO only since birth. Married to CSGO. will die for csgo.
6 is enough to form a team. 2/2/2
@@JesiAshyeah and 5 are dps lol
You should watch the video on CoD running in the background even when you close to desktop, apparently to inflate playtime numbers for shareholders. It also means that you can't get a refund, because your playtime is artificially increased past the return policy limit.
Let's point out all of the main mcu characters that aren't in the game yet.
Ant-Man
Wasp
War Machine
Drax
Captain Marvel
Shang-Chi
Whoever any of the eternals are
Jane Foster
Ms Marvel
Deadpool
And that's not including villains (Rivals 100% needs playable doom, thanos, ultron etc.)
Don’t forget Dracu- oh wait he’s already coming to the game!
we haven't even gotten into xmen either
The internet will lose its mind when they get to Rogue
tho i kinda do get their point. Some characters will be obsolete, there are several paladins characters who have been left in the dust forgotten for years because they werent meta. so while marvel wont run out of characters, they will run out of... space. immagine youre a newbie and 7th match in the row, yet you havent played against the same character twice, you get confused and quit, or the balancing goes out of the window and the character you like, simply goes obsolete and forgotten, never to recieve a bug fix or a patch. I havent played paladins for like 5 years, recently i hopped in and played pip, its excatly as i remember him to be, no nerfs. no buffs, noone else ever picks him, no new skins, nothing.
“Marvel Rivals has too many heroes for its own good.”
Me: “I am sorry. Say that AGAIN!!!” 😡
"and some of its biggest names can't be capitalized on because they've been here the entire time."
Jeff the Shark: A Marvel character most people didn't even know existed but quickly became an all time favorite (or hated💀) among the community
Journalist see this happen and still think that Marvel Rivals will run out of characters to be capitalized on? Are they fr 😭💀
This people can't be real humans.. If they release a feature packed game its too much it they don't its not enough. jesus christ
Basically, it's more coping.
Mmmh
I think they’re mad cuz the characters are appealing and the game is cool
As someone who plays Marvel Snap, they will not run out of characters to add.
Meanwhile Multiversus is slowing fading into obscurity because despite having the library of Warner Bros behind them, they don't release ENOUGH content to keep players hooked.
I stopped playing because they were gready af
fighting games will always be niche. shooter games is so easy and simple. 2nd amend.
Even in carnivals/arcade people love to play shooter not the fighting games.
@@Katniss0000 easy and simple = me with 20% accuracy
@@JesiAsh Ahh a fellow spray'n'pray, if I fire in one direction long enough someone is bound walk into it.
A game that averages over 300k concurrent players daily will die.
Lol 😂 these goobers really have nothing to write
Some upcoming Marvel Rivals characters are:
😇-Angela
🦇-Blade
💎-Emma Frost
🐒-Hit-Monkey
💀-The Hood
🐣-Pheonix/Jean Grey
🤖-Ultron
With Fantastic 4 Marvel Rivals got 37 characters. Add those listed above and you have more than Overwatch.
Have they seen league of legends? Theres nearing 200 characters to play and the game still manages to keep the same balance
I haven't played Overwatch or Marvel Rivals, so I'm unclear as to how specifically new heroes are usually added.
So correct me if I'm wrong, but is this guy complaining that he doesn't have to pay for as much new content because there's shitloads front and center at launch?
Of course they added all of the big name characters first, doing that draws attention to the game when you get to play as your favorite super heroes, but by adding smaller character they have more room to innovate with them, I'd argue the did that with Moon Knight and Hela (still two pretty big characters, but relatively small in comparison to the others) by making them pretty popular choices.
dota 2 has had 110 plus heroes on release vack in 2013
102 on release (2013) Followed by 3 more in the same year.
But surprisingly, they've only added 19 more heroes over the 10 years.
Oh nyo the new game released “too much content for free on launch instead of drip-feeding characters for money”
Thanks. That’s a really great ad
i kind if get where the article is coming from, If marvel rivals continues to be successful for years and add more and more characters, it will be incredibly difficult to balance so many characters, a great example of this is a mobile game called marvel contest of champions, it has over 300 characters and still adding more each month while there are other characters that havent been updated in years, hopefully net ease can handle a massive roster
It's like these journalists are allergic to getting W's. They're almost equally as allergic to getting past the tutorial though.
Oh no... Anyway, I'm looking forward to play both FF and Dracula in rivals 😁
Honestly, I’d love to see Rivals add in completely new, original characters alongside the existing ones. The fact that the game is based on multiple universes colliding means that they could make an entire separate marvel universe with only new characters to create even more unique stories.
League of Legends has 169 champions...
Gaming Journalism is akin to Legacy Media. Both are inept.
I see Blizzard is blowing what ever budget they have left on paying people to talk bad about Rivals 😭
i am addicted to asmongold now
A franchise about super heroes adding super heroes to their game is bad