Episode 2.28: The Elephant and Humble Pie, Your Final Olympics Recap
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- The mood was spicy for this one, fueled by Olipop and post-Olympics sleep deprivation and jetlag! The result is yet another banger episode from Des and Kara.
This one starts with some fun behind-the-scenes intel on the Olympic Village and why athletes might choose to stay outside of it.
Then, they very thoroughly address THE elephant in the room, giving their perspectives on the criticism Fiona O'Keeffe has received for not dropping from the marathon. You might have your opinion on this, but I promise you that Des and Kara will teach you a side of this story that you didn't know. It is a lot more complicated than the social media "pundits" might think.
After that, they turn to recaps of the M800, W1500, M5000, and both marathons to wrap up their coverage of the Paris Olympics, including some humble pie served very warm.
We are sad it's over, but so very happy that it happened. What an epic end to these Games!
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You two together during the marathon broadcast were great. It added a great deal to the race. I hope you get to do it again. Often! Love the podcast.
Dr. Sketchy McFuck is going to be how I refer to all doctors I do not like. Thank you, both, for your perspective on this. I knew that Des would have a very thoughtful take on Fiona and am so glad you addressed this. Fingers crossed for future marathon calls with you together!
Dr. Filthy McNasty was my alt option 😬
Yes!! LOL
@@ddavila22 also a solid choice
Des and Kara great job calling the marathon on Sunday, NBC should keep you 2 calling 2028!!
No doubt
I can’t believe NBC couldn’t figure out some way to comp Dez for adding her expertise to the broadcast. It’s not like they pulled some weekend jogger in for this; she’s an 😊Olympian and Boston Marathon champion. Surely there was room in their budget to minimally upgrade her to first/business class for her flight home or tell her to enjoy a long weekend somewhere on NBC’s dime.
Amen! Thank you des and kara for perfectly shedding light on these topics and bringing more awareness to the community.
Great discussion on Fiona O’Keeffe. Appreciated both of your insights on the situation. You both have my vote for 2028!
Really appreciated hearing your opinions and takes. Thanks SO MUCH for putting out these podcasts!!
Just listened to this awesome episode during my walk to and from the trailhead for my trail run in the hills of Boulder. Congratulations Des & Kara! Listening to you throughout the games was a highlight for me this year for sure and it was essential because until last week I was traveling all across Europe by bike and train for two months with no reliable access to a TV. Thank you! 🙏
Thank you Des and Kara for your great analysis and amazing contributions to distance running.
Thank you for addressing the Fiona situation. Your perspectives completely changed my mind to one of 100% supporting her decision.
Thanks so much for all of your Olympics episodes. I'm an Olympics addict and you made my viewing/listening experience even better. Special appreciation for standing up for Fiona and for giving Bryce the appreciation. The Olympics are the best example of the person in the area ethos and the people in that arena matter regardless of how it turns out for them. Screw the critics.
My daughter used to compete with Fiona in high school, and my heart just breaks for her. Thanks for sharing the perspectives here.
These Olympics are first ones I've watched as a "runner," and your Freshy Fresh podcasts were amazing to help me learn so much more about the races and the athletes. LOVED the marathon coverage and your behind-the-scenes scoop on all that happens.
Ultimate professionals and the best humans. Love love the pod and for sure have learned so much! Please keep it going!!
You guys did so fantastic! It was so helpful and fun to listen to you guys recap each day of the Olympics!!!!!!
Holy cow! I’ve read both of your books and been fans of each of you for a long time. This may be the tequila talking, but this was the best podcast on any subject I’ve ever heard!! You guys are so insightful and relatable and have a way with words. Every topic you touched on was gold and I agreed with all of it, from travel and lodging for US Olympic athletes to poor Fiona (who needs to just ignore all the talking head idiots) to your Olympic sum up. Please keep talking! “I’m asking you!”
Loved the Des and Kara show on NBC!! It made watching the women's marathon so much more special.
I am going to miss the olympics recaps so so so much!
Once again, your insight, personal experiences, logic, and compassion have provided great perspective. I'm betting Fiona spent days tormeting herself with whether or not she should toe the line. She probably knew the negative public comments would assault her. And as the days go on, those who post mean comments will have moved on to other things in their life, while Fiona likely continues to deal emotionally with her injury and her lost chance at running the race of her dreams, for which she'd prepared for months.
Excellent job all year leading up to and through Paris! A fine recap and salute to athletes who lay it all on the line!
Great work Dez and Kara! Amazing insight. I wasn't as surprised that Tola and Hassan won the marathons as the fact that they both set Olympic marathon world records while doing it on such a brutal course!
Des, you were great calling the marathon. I hope you do more of the live broadcasts in the future.
The dream team on the marathon call - chefs kiss! Lets get the two of you together for all marathon majors (that Des isn't racing)!
I think the worst is seeing certain running influencers, who are not professionals but just hobby runners like the rest of us, give Fiona a hard time. It's never been a better time to truly walk a mile in someone else's shoes and ya'll's input really helps put it all into perspective!!
On the world feed for the Marathon. As someone who watches the Tour De France every year, that’s how they filmed it, like the epic bike race. At least that’s how it felt to me. Since part of the goal of the Olympics from the Paris point of view I can see what they were intending, they had the overhead so the commentators could talk about what monument was being shown and on the tour they often do artistic shots of wheels etc.
I loved your discussion about putting it all on the line and risk of injury!!!!
Thanks for addressing The Elephant. I posted the video on X which probably fueled some of the criticism, but now see how much deeper it is than what we see on TV. I feel that runners are a uniquely supportive community that would want to give others a chance if they are not in shape to finish. There is no doubt it’s more complex than that, especially with the contract, money, and career implications of deciding not to start.
C-R-I-S! Cris-Cris-CRIS!!!👏🏽
Much love to you ladies as well💕💕
A person who makes a US Olympic team, trains post-selection, and makes a good-faith effort to make it to the starting line should, in my opinion, forever be considered a member of that team. There should be no disincentive to making an informed decision about one's health and only the athlete should be able to make that decision.
I agree Mike Tirico is the Best. I'd expect nothing less from someone from Michigan! 🙂 Des also made a good point about the Men's 5000. There was a NBC camera man out on the track filming the men's high jump. All of a sudden he gets swallowed by the 5000 runners forgetting they were running. He definitely effected some of the runners.
I appreciate the honesty! Hassan was unbelievable. Thank you.
Great conversation- empathy and context.
One of the best Olympic moment was seeing the last place woman marathon runner from Bhutan
feel like des would be the type of friend to give really good advice
I think super shoes help more on the downhill than the up. They keep the legs fresher from the more impact on the downhills due to the plate and super foams. I ran Boston 2023 in super shoes while my previous 4 Bostons were in regular road flats and my legs were a lot fresher through Newton and after than they have ever been at Boston.
Kipchoge can’t run hills. Boston showed that. He’s amazing but best at flat courses with pacers. He’s the greatest time trialist of all time. He’s not going anywhere near Boston or NYC.
Y’all should call major marathons together. Y’all did so well!
Remember that episode where I mentioned just HOW MANY commercials were being played? You must have made an impact if you reached out, ‘case not a SINGLE commercial during this episode! *high-five*
Bottom line it’s Fiona’s call, no one else’s
LOVE the intro, Des!!!
Auntie Des is my new favorite Des. She's been like the cool aunt coming up to defend her niece on Instagram and she gives zero f*cks. Mama Kara, I see you!
37:46 the ultimate point. Everybody had their chance in Orlando. 3 men and 3 women punched their tickets to Paris. End of discussion.
Woo Kara & Des 2028🎉🎉🎉 I’ll make a yard sign😂
Introverts on the dining hall experience. :) Is it still the case that we are the only country whose government doesn't support its athletes? I got back to Minneapolis Monday at noonish. It was a really good non-stop from Paris. I watched zero movies... but I love The Devil Wears Prada movie also!! I wondered about Fiona as I stood on the roadside around 37ish K. Thanks for all of this and all you do!! It helps me understand SO much better. As soon as I saw that Fiona dropped out, I felt for her. She earned that spot and gave it a go. I hope she turns off the noise and takes care of herself.
An alternate won the men's race... but I can't fault someone who won the Olympic Trials from starting their race. You've earned the right to start the race.
I enjoyed watching the challenging Paris Olympic Marathon course much more than a flat fast course. I’m over the chasing WRs in every marathon road race.
What?…No repechage round for the Marathon? Thanks for the great insights to what we can’t see. Great calls at the games too.
Bump with cameraman was in the 5K heats. Jakob Ingebrigtsen.
Mens 5000 - a cameraman for the mens high jump was standing in lane 1 during one of the prelims
All three good movies! 🍿and hope you can work together more!
Love the discussion surrounding the marathon - about Fiona (heart goes out to any athlete in this position) and Kipchoge (yes we all age!!)
I ordered Ketone-IQ because you two raved so much about it - you guys… it tastes so bad 🤢🤮😂😂
It’s startling but grows on you. Has an IPA taste to me.
@@ddavila22 I’m not giving up but wow it was shocking - I’m no quitter 🤣
Liked and rung the bell. Permanent subscriber. 🎉
People were awful to Femke in the comments after her 400mh. You can love Sydney all you want but the level of rude they were to Femke was crazy!
Love your work here ladies, so lets really address the many elephants in the room more directly. Its high time that white grumpy old men in suits stopped traveling business and first class around the world to meets whilst representing national organizations as long as the athletes, who are ALWAYS the stars of the show, have to travel in coach. Instead of athletes being out of pocket to cater for the things they SHOULD have to perform at the level ,they, and everyone wants them to perform at a high level, then this is a must. Athletes in Track and Field need to take more control of the situation. You have the power, stop giving into them. (The Administrators). Track and Field doesnt look enough and learn from other sports where these types of issues are being addressed faster. Take tennis, as another global sport current management have been forced by the Players Association to better look after tennis players on ALL tours, men and women. This is now starting to change the landscape of global tennis in favor of the player. What Track and Field doesnt need IMHO is ambitious ex athlete, come Entrepreneurs who want to make a quick buck from track and field, aka Michael Johnson by setting up a prima donna series that firstly completely ignores field athletes, and only looks to make the top elite 1%ers even richer. Track and Field needs a GLOBAL solution that is NOT United States centric, and that address all matters. This includes, but is not limited to, the athletes career pathways, ) so NCAA athletes dont need to take PEDS, remuneration ( so athletes can survive and thrive) and of course the biggest issue, being more successful eliminating the drug cheats as much as possible. Whats happening in Kenya, China and Ethiopia at present is slowly killing the soul of athletics. The IOC is just another political machine that treats athletes like BS, just look at what the Triathletes in Paris had to go through swimming in one of the dirtiest rivers in Europe. So many of them are now getting sick and who cares, not the IOC. Its time for athletes to act like business people, to take control and to insist on the structures and outcomes to make the entire experience worthwhile, safe and fair. Keep up the great work and do not be silenced.
Des those are two of my top movies - on or off plane! Add Moneyball to your list as a baseball fan!
OMG I started that one! Was too tired tho - took a nappy instead.
Argo is so good!
I don’t know why I’m shocked but the lack of compensation for athletes and announcers (des not paid?!) at olympics is shocking
I nominate you two for calling 2028!
You're the best!!!. I also like the format of the video.
#LindenGoucher28
The basketball teams were getting everything they wanted. There needs, but will never happen, to be a overhaul of the IOC. The amount of money being made by them is astonishing. There also needs to be a huge change in allowing athletes to compete with their sponsorship brands as their clothing. It can all be designed as the country look but with different looks. And for track and field, can we please drop those enormous name bibs, so not necessary.
Why is Kara only saying Jess’s maiden name?
What about Keely and Hocker???
It's too bad they don't let you talk in the last 200m plus right after. I listen to the NCAA races on ESPN+ and the two of them talk all the way and each sees something the other doesn't and the result is a better product.
As you often make plain that most athletes are not making the money in track (never the real money in any sport) - it would be good to sometimes make plain you are discussing a labor issue - there is a massive "plantation" ethos in track and field...the athletes are almost less valuable than a good horse. The capitalist/owner class is very apparent in sports. And saying you should spend money on yourself is something that often just can't be done. You both clearly CAN afford to make things better for yourselves. Others can't and that in itself is a real competitive advantage.
Sea didn’t get paid? What the heck
What a great day! Watching @adrunner9 RUclips video and then Noboby asked us. Great combination!