The Deadliest Karate Fighter (Motobu Choki)

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  • Опубликовано: 15 май 2024
  • How did Choki Motobu defeat Gichin Funakoshi - the father of modern karate in Japan?
    Discover the Okinawan kumite expert who challenged the founder of Shotokan karate... and won!
    If you're interested in karate's history, practical self-defense and kata bunkai (applications), you'll love this story!
    0:00 - Motobu Choki vs. Gichin Funakoshi
    0:45 - Biography & Karate Experience
    2:35 - Moving From Okinawa To Osaka
    4:21 - Confronting Funakoshi in Tokyo
    5:45 - The Aftermath & Conclusion
    Illustrations by Kyle Duske (kumakai.ca)
    Music by Scott Buckley
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Комментарии • 1,9 тыс.

  • @KARATEbyJesse
    @KARATEbyJesse  3 года назад +338

    Discover how Motobu defeated the foreign boxer 🥊 (and why Funakoshi got the credit) in my previous video: ruclips.net/video/jSLAcC5X8iE/видео.html 🥋

    • @KARATEbyJesse
      @KARATEbyJesse  3 года назад +10

      Domo arigato! 🙏

    • @mrjuice1926
      @mrjuice1926 3 года назад +4

      Excellent this video speaks volumes !! Okinawa well always remain the true essence of karate ! Well done sensei Jesse you are crucial to the history and art of karate

    • @austinwiebe2648
      @austinwiebe2648 3 года назад +4

      I love these videos on the history of Okinawan and Japanese karate. Why not do a video on the history of Taekwondo (Korean karate) ? As a Taekwondo instructor I would love to see that

    • @milojanjusevic6259
      @milojanjusevic6259 3 года назад +6

      Respected Sir Encamp, do make a story with sensei Mikio Yahara (Shotokan) about his real (street) fight with the Yakuza gang and then comment Shotokan style this way. Best regards!

    • @pausetapemedia7942
      @pausetapemedia7942 3 года назад +2

      Thank you for posting this i been in search of His Style of fighting since you posted the last one. And yes he was a Karate Fighter for real.

  • @Orimthekeyacolite
    @Orimthekeyacolite 3 года назад +790

    3 takedowns in tuishou challanges are also traditional. The proverb goes: "If your opponent lost once it might be an accident, twice - cunning strategy, but three times really prove who's better"

    • @KARATEbyJesse
      @KARATEbyJesse  3 года назад +78

      Thank you! Fascinating

    • @LuizEnger
      @LuizEnger 3 года назад +54

      And this is why I read the comments

    • @caeserromero3013
      @caeserromero3013 2 года назад +1

      But if he's coming back after 8 times, he's a persistent fcuker :)

    • @terryseldon7446
      @terryseldon7446 2 года назад +4

      Best out of 3🤣👌

    • @terryseldon7446
      @terryseldon7446 2 года назад +4

      This is proven in mma

  • @StrainXv
    @StrainXv 3 года назад +1487

    It's sad Motobu's style is almost extinct, Practical martial arts should always have a place in the world.

  • @jshaw3793
    @jshaw3793 3 года назад +788

    Motobu basically in translation described funakoshi as the first mcdojo 😂

    • @rxj0765
      @rxj0765 2 года назад +24

      😂 good one!

    • @kogaryu5558
      @kogaryu5558 2 года назад +52

      And we all study McKarate.🤷🙆🤭🤣

    • @RXLXNTLXSS
      @RXLXNTLXSS 2 года назад +14

      @@kogaryu5558 On truth kata contains all those Lost techniques

    • @Purpleninjawv
      @Purpleninjawv 2 года назад +10

      The every American in rotc program bought a mcdojo franchise.

    • @toms.6310
      @toms.6310 2 года назад +17

      @@RXLXNTLXSS Maybe, probably, but it also most likely movement changed over time to look more impressive and lost its original meaning, which makes it hard to reverse engineer it to Kumite. It's like a book that was typed thousands of times and every time few words have changed.

  • @TheThinkersBible
    @TheThinkersBible Год назад +108

    Motobu Choki is a tragic story. But I think your insight into Motobu not doing politics well is probably a huge contributing factor. I also think your insight into kata vs kumite focus is decisive. It's similar to judo, which toned down jujitsu into an art learnable with significantly less risk of injury and thus got popularized worldwide. Same with Ueshiba's aikido vs the softened 'dance' style that's spread much farther than his original jujitsu based style. Softer and easier and less risky = more popular.

  • @koichote
    @koichote 3 года назад +254

    My name is Choki Koichi, my father call me like motobu sensei. This history are amazing. We practice Karate too 🥋. We learned Motobu Ha Shito Ryu

    • @davidaguirre9125
      @davidaguirre9125 2 года назад +2

      May i ask wat type of karate would be useful for mma ?

    • @jarabotelho5275
      @jarabotelho5275 2 года назад +1

      @@davidaguirre9125 I bet the discipline wonderboy learnt could be one of the tactical ones for mma

    • @martinrogerattrappelechat3639
      @martinrogerattrappelechat3639 Год назад +1

      @@davidaguirre9125 it's not only karate, but daido juku (kudo) seems to me the most realistic for mma.

    • @stoopidhaters
      @stoopidhaters Год назад

      @@jarabotelho5275 Or Machida.

    • @PureShrimp
      @PureShrimp Год назад

      ​@@davidaguirre9125 Dai Ki Haku martial art or kudo martial sport

  • @tsh2613
    @tsh2613 3 года назад +523

    I wish I had a elder brother like you to tell me these awesome stories every night!!!!!

  • @descart7285
    @descart7285 2 года назад +316

    Lessons to be learned:
    1. Victory of the aggressor is short lived. There is a reason why Funakoshi focused on Kata and character development.
    2. Be humble always. You may be the top in your class, but there is always someone stronger and better.

    • @KARATEbyJesse
      @KARATEbyJesse  2 года назад +24

      Well said 👍

    • @marceloherzfeld4019
      @marceloherzfeld4019 Год назад +6

      Una buena enseñanza !!!

    • @nikolambert314
      @nikolambert314 Год назад +48

      More like - sweet talks, politicking and social connections mean more to people than actual truth :)

    • @Greedman456
      @Greedman456 Год назад +4

      ​@@nikolambert314exactly

    • @JimCunningham-jr7qv
      @JimCunningham-jr7qv 7 месяцев назад +4

      3. Dont train an art that is not practical

  • @thecybercat4420
    @thecybercat4420 Год назад +112

    My dojo practices Isshin-Ryu, and our books tell about the history of our founder, Tatsuo Shimabuku. According to the book, the first master he sought out and trained under was Choki Motubu himself. I didn't realize how unknown Motobu-Ryu is today as a whole, but our dojo still prioritizes using different katas as a means to train one's muscle memory, just how he must've taught Shimabuku. Amazing stuff

    • @TheSandkastenverbot
      @TheSandkastenverbot Год назад +2

      Katas are a maximally inefficient way to train muscle memory and Motobu knew that

    • @varanid9
      @varanid9 Год назад +6

      @@TheSandkastenverbot Yes, most don't realize that Katas come from the Chinese fist sets, or "kuen", of which the main purpose was to imbed the curriculum of a fighting system into the student's nervous system or "muscle memory" in order to preserve its basics, as opposed to the difficult, often counter-intuitive task of writing the methods down for an illiterate society. There were also the fist sets of styles that used them as choreographed fight scenes for Chinese boat operas. Forms training is nothing more than this, or dances to impress audiences.

    • @AcceleratingUniverse
      @AcceleratingUniverse 11 месяцев назад +1

      Shimabuku studied under Motobu in his 30s, for 1 year, so no. He had practiced karate for probably 2 decades before he met Motobu.

    • @sjd421
      @sjd421 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@AcceleratingUniverse +1

    • @TesseractPleiadesOrion
      @TesseractPleiadesOrion 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@TheSandkastenverbotCan you expand on that please? Serious question BTW 👍🏾

  • @lucacasadio3001
    @lucacasadio3001 3 года назад +73

    I actually read about Motobu some years ago. I am completely respectful towards him because this was his personal karate-do. He put a lot of effort into improving his personal style even if he's not really appreciated or popular.

    • @mohaimenulimam233
      @mohaimenulimam233 7 месяцев назад +1

      It's a sad story that his style did not get famous.

    • @lucacasadio3001
      @lucacasadio3001 7 месяцев назад

      @@mohaimenulimam233 yes indeed

  • @oki1966
    @oki1966 3 года назад +52

    As someone who grew up in Okinawa and excelled more in fighting than pretty moves of Kata during tournaments, Motobu Choki seems like someone I would have loved to learn from. Thank you for generating my interest in Karate again. Things that you learn in RUclips sometimes are a good thing.

  • @GODQUIRIDO
    @GODQUIRIDO 2 года назад +41

    The Motobu style really deserves more exposure, It is such a shame that this Strong and real style got Lost in time :( thanks for the Amazing video (as always) !
    As a guy who trained in a Lot of styles and found his home in kyokushin karate, your Channel is gem for me and many others :)

    • @WillGGG
      @WillGGG 2 года назад +4

      While it may be practical in a fight, The reality is that most people wont join a dojo where they get beat up and bloodied every night. You would spend more time healing from injuries than training

  • @donbarracuda546
    @donbarracuda546 Год назад +110

    Motobu won the battle but lost the war. This story teaches a powerful lesson about character, vision, and wisdom (and what it is to lack them). It is not enough to strive to be the best or prove that you are the best; you also have to learn to be a respectful and well-rounded human being, capable of playing well with others.
    Great content, by the way. You have one new subscriber!

    • @viniciusferreiradeoliveira183
      @viniciusferreiradeoliveira183 Год назад +1

      Totally agree

    • @Mlai00
      @Mlai00 Год назад +13

      Or as we Yankees like to say, "It's not what you know, it's who you know."

    • @revariox189
      @revariox189 Год назад +13

      I would still prefer to be lonely and forgotten at the top of what I consider my own best than to bend over backwards to have my name or style associated with posterity. His style is irrelevant, his philosophy of life is GOLD.

    • @user-pp3em5mc3m
      @user-pp3em5mc3m Год назад +13

      There is also such thing as support of the authority. Funakoshi had official support. So don't make up lessons from a story you don't know.

    • @Greedman456
      @Greedman456 Год назад

      More like how bootlicking snakes with connections prevail to the eyes of the people and how little people actually care for quality over reputation...

  • @BellowDGaming
    @BellowDGaming 3 года назад +82

    YES! I was waiting for this ever since Motobu was mentioned in the video How Boxing Destroyed Karate. Thank you Jesse for continuing his story.

  • @maxzhao8331
    @maxzhao8331 3 года назад +51

    imagine if motobu had youtube back then. he would be a youtube legend!

  • @kpitman1990
    @kpitman1990 2 года назад +31

    Even your older videos Jesse bring me joy after all this time. Rewatched this recently because after going on 13 plus years of practicing martial arts, I’ve been feeling the lows of what martial art “politics” have been like. In a way, I would dare to say I feel for Motobu and what frustrations he may have gone through seeing and being part of that process. Thank you so much for educating everyone about the history of karate-do.

  • @jamesdigeorgia6112
    @jamesdigeorgia6112 3 года назад +8

    Sensei Miyazaki was my first karate sensei.
    His first dojo in NY was in fact in Jackson Heights, Queens. He opened it with a man names Pierce as I remember - one of his black belt sempai. He moved the dojo to flushing after 2 years. I started judo class at Sensei Miyazaki insistence. He didn't want me learning karate until I could fall and could be trusted with attemi waze. He was a wonderful man who spend a lot of time me when I was 6-12. He taught me much more than karate. He taught me to listen and learn. I genuinely held him in the highest regard. His patience seemed to be unlimited when it came time to teach me the first 4 Kata's and basic karate.
    I moved to Connecticut in the early fall of 1971 and was incredibly lucky to wind up at a judo club that began at Newtown High School in Sandy Hook.
    Sensei Jerry Kunzman was a Ju Jitsu and Judo Nidan at the time and one of the original USJA clubs. He was a billiant student of Duke Moore 10th Dan from the San Francisco Bay area, and reached the rank of 8th Dan.
    After 48 years I hold a Yodan in Ju Jitsu, Nidan in Judo and Shodan in Japanese Karate. I've studied with Wally Jay Sr. and Wally Jay Jr., and studied Aikido with several of the greatest Sensei & Professors in the world, including Walter Todd. For years when I traveled on business around the world II used the trips to also teach as a guest instructor and attended (visiting) hundreds of dojos around the world. My knees, back and neck are shit today from being thrown across literally thousands of rooms.
    I often think back on Sensei Miyazaki, the dojo in Jackson Heights and Flushing and the wonderful judo Sensei and the kind students that all treated me like I was a kid with tremendous potential. I had to be one of the youngest students back then. That early experience and those memories are priceless.
    I remember sitting on a door step with Sensei Miyazaki one day, I was about 8. He pulled out a coconut and with only his hands by bashing it one time on the pavement in front of us and twisting the shell. For a small man he had hands like jackhammers. He offered me some juice and then broke a piece off for me to chew. It was so good, we just smiled at one another and laughed for a good 5 minutes. Man he was a good, really good person and role model.

  • @RamonChiNangWong078
    @RamonChiNangWong078 3 года назад +247

    I wish we all cross hands like they do back then
    Also If Motobu is alive today, he would have been a real MMA guy

    • @nelsonmcatee3721
      @nelsonmcatee3721 3 года назад +38

      Notice Bruce Lee does the same thing in Enter The Dragon.

    • @saileshnaidu8102
      @saileshnaidu8102 2 года назад +7

      Danial and Chozen do it in season 3 ep 5 of Cobra Kai

    • @jeronimo196
      @jeronimo196 2 года назад +6

      Aikido will finally have a chance.

    • @Tony.L9793
      @Tony.L9793 2 года назад +6

      Motobu vs Ip Man will be interesting

    • @kendellsmith104
      @kendellsmith104 2 года назад

      Lololololol

  • @Wessex90
    @Wessex90 3 года назад +148

    I’ve read that his son is still alive at the age of 95 and continued teaching his style.

    • @williamcarlson9379
      @williamcarlson9379 3 года назад +15

      That is by definition awesome!

    • @robertwelch3240
      @robertwelch3240 3 года назад +6

      That is correct

    • @MrKaido93
      @MrKaido93 3 года назад +14

      Awesome to hear that Motobu Choki's son is still alive teaching his style. I'd like to see this style how it compares to Kyokushinkai.

    • @Wessex90
      @Wessex90 3 года назад +1

      @@MrKaido93 I think there are a few videos on RUclips doing Kata. I’ve forgotten his name, but it’s easy enough to find online.

    • @robertwelch3240
      @robertwelch3240 3 года назад +8

      @@MrKaido93 tsunami released a video about 15 years ago. There is also footage of Motobu ryu available on RUclips. It is nothing like Kyokushin. Motobu ryu is Okinawan Shorin ryu karate.

  • @teikarate
    @teikarate 3 года назад +5

    love your videos, which I've just stumbled on over last couple of months. I trained in the 80s up to early 2000s, and love my karate history. I've recently developed a strong urge to get back into training and your videos are really inspirational

  • @Muzzie0323
    @Muzzie0323 2 года назад +13

    I was completely mesmerized as you were telling this story. You are a wonderful orator sir, please continue teaching us the history of karate.

  • @santhoshgajaraj2113
    @santhoshgajaraj2113 3 года назад +145

    Those comics style art was so nice, and also an interesting video as usual, thank you Jesse-san.

  • @frankcastle8363
    @frankcastle8363 3 года назад +89

    I can imagine the hypothetical fight between Motobu Choki and Mas Oyama.

    • @PrinceAkaiVtuber
      @PrinceAkaiVtuber 3 года назад +25

      Would probably be an all brawl I'd pay to see that

    • @ntuthukobrendonbhengu7518
      @ntuthukobrendonbhengu7518 3 года назад +23

      I swear the world doesn't respect the late great Mas Oyama enough. 🙏🏾🥋😭🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @huntergrant6520
      @huntergrant6520 3 года назад +10

      @@ntuthukobrendonbhengu7518 he was good. But he wasn't as invincible as they claimed. He like a cross between a karateka/strong man/P.T. Barnum.

    • @Iloveyounot
      @Iloveyounot 3 года назад +10

      Both have devoted their lives to Martial Arts and I respect both fighters. I'm sure we can agree it would have been a great fight.

    • @tofa8967
      @tofa8967 3 года назад +2

      Yeah

  • @rickluiten8355
    @rickluiten8355 2 года назад +11

    From all I have been told Motobu Choki was an amazing fighter. Three of my sensei that I have studied with trained under Shimabuku Tatsuo who had Motobu Choki for one of his teachers. While training on Okinawa back in the seventies he was mentioned quite often. I am happy that you are making him and other Okinawan history available to people today.

  • @ALHat22
    @ALHat22 8 месяцев назад +3

    Also, a lot of people don’t understand that the philosophy of Japan as a society was changing. Japan wanted to move away from their “warlike nature” and this greatly impacted Japanese martial arts. It would have made this man a bit of an outcast because of his focus on using skills in “fighting” in Karate. Same is true for Judo and Jujitsu in Japan, the ideas are still there but some aspects were surely lost during Japan’s philosophical and social politic shifts.

  • @SIMONSK9CLUB
    @SIMONSK9CLUB 3 года назад +38

    The cross hand stance reminds of enter the dragon

    • @DMF716
      @DMF716 3 года назад +6

      In Isshinryu Karate, that is how I was taught back in the 70's....I used to use that hand position as my launching point, in class fighting.
      Back then, it was only a groin cup and mouth guard. And war trophies ( bruises , broken fingers and toes was the normal)
      MOTABU WAS ONE OF Tatsuo Shimabuku's teachers, as was Chojun Miagi

    • @peposo7
      @peposo7 3 года назад +1

      "Crossing the bridge" refers to chinese martial arts

  • @joedasilva3866
    @joedasilva3866 3 года назад +31

    5:46 that's something I'll never understand 😶 Why can't both be just one, the skills effective for actual fighting also working as a path to develop character and forge a good human being? Can't really see how those things are mutually exclusive... 😶😐

  • @viniciuscr5178
    @viniciuscr5178 8 месяцев назад

    Nice video with great informations. Thank you, Master Jesse.

  • @boereburger6762
    @boereburger6762 3 года назад +10

    Osu sensei Jesse. You are reviving history, traditions, philosophy and the true hart of Karate, the things that was lost.

  • @nelsonmcatee3721
    @nelsonmcatee3721 3 года назад +164

    Mas Oyama also had the same impression of Funakoshi, or rather, his priorities. Oyama's karate emphasized physical conditioning and free style kumite more, and deemphasized kata.

    • @kenmurray8476
      @kenmurray8476 2 года назад +1

      So, instead of producing outstanding people, these "practical" styles taught the Japanese to be the most cruel and untrustworthy warriors going into WWII. Great teaching.

    • @nelsonmcatee3721
      @nelsonmcatee3721 2 года назад +43

      @@kenmurray8476 karate had nothing to do with the cruelty of Japanese soldiers during WWII. I have no idea how you got that impression 🤔🤷‍♂️. My statement was intended to contrast Funakoshi's martial arts philosophy with Mas Oyoma's. Both senseis were exemplary human beings.

    • @yuriboyka6131
      @yuriboyka6131 2 года назад

      @@kenmurray8476 you must have half a brain there sir.

    • @coloradolivingoffgrid6106
      @coloradolivingoffgrid6106 Год назад

      Did you study? If so, what style?

    • @mitchjames9350
      @mitchjames9350 Год назад +3

      @@kenmurray8476 where did you get that from?

  • @murilocaruy
    @murilocaruy 3 года назад +61

    You could do a few videos presenting Choki's style and his descendants

  • @dyonesios
    @dyonesios Год назад

    This video is a gem. I love that you're keeping the history alive.

  • @GoodandBasic
    @GoodandBasic 3 года назад

    These stories are so good! Thank you for putting karate in context!

  • @dunnagan5
    @dunnagan5 3 года назад +13

    I have trained in Shotokan for 23 years and counting and this truth bomb kinda stings! Even prior to Covid the dojo I train in focused mainly on kata and freestyle sparring was a very rare treat. Now I want to spar with kickboxers and BJJ practitioners because I want to be pressure tested for real and be humbled thoroughly!

  • @thorstenfricke6757
    @thorstenfricke6757 3 года назад +18

    It is hard to hear this story as a Shotokan Karateka. But we must face the trues. Thanks for bringing this in the light.

    • @hirorop5367
      @hirorop5367 3 года назад +1

      Agree with your comment so very much 🙏❤️

    • @gbormann71
      @gbormann71 3 года назад

      @number six It's still fun, though.

    • @MFPRego
      @MFPRego 3 года назад

      Im a shotokan karateca as well! But the truth is that shotokan is incomplete, like most styles of karate. Stil, its fun to learn and practice ;)

    • @yessir2514
      @yessir2514 3 года назад

      @@Tamales21 I wanna hear it too

  • @nemonemo6285
    @nemonemo6285 Год назад

    That was a well put together video!! Thank you.

  • @silverousleonidas5790
    @silverousleonidas5790 3 года назад

    I have to thank you Sensei Jessie. Because of you a lot of people are looking for practical martial arts. And I always learn something new.

  • @32battalion24
    @32battalion24 3 года назад +20

    You will like the story of Akio Takahashi, who was considered the most feared fighter in Japan in the 70's. Western Bouncer and wrestler Gary Spiers, Steve Morris and many other have detailed the prowess of this unknown guy. He came from Seiwakai and went off on his own to start Kenwakai, he seemed to have a background in Judo as well.

  • @nammeetathirunavukarasu8802
    @nammeetathirunavukarasu8802 3 года назад +81

    Probably irrelevant, but the editing is great on this one!

    • @KARATEbyJesse
      @KARATEbyJesse  3 года назад +15

      Thank you! Makes me happy to hear 👍

    • @hirorop5367
      @hirorop5367 3 года назад +6

      His editing is amazing!

    • @jc-kj8yc
      @jc-kj8yc 3 года назад +5

      That's never irrelevant 😁

    • @locoyogui
      @locoyogui 3 года назад +2

      That kind of thing is never irrelevant, and even less in something graphic like the exhibition of martial arts; If you take into account that martial arts manuals have always been accompanied by diagrams and representations of techniques, you can see their importance.

  • @chrislee7538
    @chrislee7538 2 года назад

    Got to say, I just found your channel and you are reviving my love for martial arts.

  • @cefimssoas9830
    @cefimssoas9830 2 года назад

    Finally a channel worth watching , thank you Jesse

  • @aidanmurray8283
    @aidanmurray8283 3 года назад +4

    What an incredibly well put together video! I’d love more of these types of videos talking about these masters and their journeys

  • @nikhilkopparapu2659
    @nikhilkopparapu2659 3 года назад +23

    Fun fact: General Choi Hong Hi (founder of Taekwon Do) studied shotokan karate under Gichin Funakoshi.
    Living ur content btw

    • @diablorojo3887
      @diablorojo3887 3 года назад +4

      and he tried convince Oyama to help hin create the TKW

  • @jaza457x8
    @jaza457x8 2 года назад +2

    Great video, bro. Thank you so much for sharing 👌🔥🔥🔥

  • @graymcgoldrick8388
    @graymcgoldrick8388 2 года назад

    Thank you for your sharing and insights much appreciated 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @andrewvecchio1577
    @andrewvecchio1577 3 года назад +4

    Loved this and enjoyed learning what went down between Motobu and Funakoshi! Thank you Jesse San for creating this :D

  • @wadoryujujutsukempo6289
    @wadoryujujutsukempo6289 3 года назад +11

    i did hear another story about a second meeting that took place after funakoshi was beaten, motobu was with his student, and the student challenged funakoshi to a fight, but ohtsuka (funakoshi's student who was with him at the time), stepped in and threw motobu's student and pinned him (ohtsuka being a menkyo in jujutsu). Motobu was said to like ohtsuka because of his skill, but it is quite a well known wado story.

  • @rikunevalainen8154
    @rikunevalainen8154 2 года назад

    Again..pure gold from you, Jesse !

  • @davidgarciacooke337
    @davidgarciacooke337 3 месяца назад

    I absolutely love your historical videos on karate.

  • @prasadshanbhag1812
    @prasadshanbhag1812 3 года назад +27

    When ever I see the photo of sensi motobu choki , sitting on the chair , looking straight away,I get goose bumps 🔥🔥🔥nice video sensi

    • @MrBendylaw
      @MrBendylaw 3 года назад +1

      Look for images of Taika Oyata on Google, there's an old one that does the same to me. You'll know it when you see it. But the créme-de-la-créme is an old photo of Seikichi Uehara in a pose from Naihanchi that shows how shredded those guys were 100 years ago.

  • @igorcarvalho2557
    @igorcarvalho2557 3 года назад +44

    I train Shotokan Karate, and I love it. But I absolutely understand the need for us karateka to look deep beyond the surface, seeking more practicality in our training. In some of the Shotokan Dojos I knew, the focus is competition kumite and competition kata, with little to no attention to bunkai and more self defense oriented kumite. But I guess we have to take the best of what is available to us, and embark ourselves in a journey to deepen our Karate.
    On the other hand, I think I understand Sensei Funakoshi's vision. Sure, the modernization of Karate brought some problems, but if it weren't for him taking it to mainland Japan (from whence it would later spread worldwide), maybe we wouldn't even know Karate existed. Some would argue modern Karate lacks practicality (in kumite) and bu kai (in kata), but the spiritual take of the art (DO) is unparalleled. Traditional Karate, on the other hand, had an efficient and practical outlook, but some may find it lacking of meaning and purpose. Some people view Motobu Choki as little more than a bully and street brawler, as others view him as one of the greatest fighters in the world. Funakoshi is hated by many as "the guy who sold out" for politics, while others (myself included) are thankful for him bringing Karate to Japan, even if he had to compromise some things to achieve his goal.
    What I'm trying to say is: regardless of the Style we practice, we must learn from all these great Sensei, for each of them had precious gems to share with us. And, as a great Sensei once said: "what brings us together will always be more important than what sets us apart!" 😉🙏🏻🥋

    • @brendantheodore6919
      @brendantheodore6919 3 года назад +2

      Beautifully expressed. 😊👍👊💥

    • @igorcarvalho2557
      @igorcarvalho2557 3 года назад +1

      @@brendantheodore6919 thank you my friend!

    • @DoomGuy-kf8fv
      @DoomGuy-kf8fv 3 года назад +4

      Absolutely, I have found that goju ryu tends to help my shotokan kumite. Many shotokan practitioners now do not like to get hit, by forcing myself to get comfortable with it I do not have that issue. I think incorporating as many karate styles as possible into your training is the best way to improve overall.

    • @Devo13
      @Devo13 2 года назад

      Koei-Kan base system since I was a kid.

    • @dontneedtoknow5836
      @dontneedtoknow5836 2 года назад

      1 year late.
      Tool had it right on the first stage. The stage that we learn from the cadence if shadow or secrecy of night, we do "Listen to our muscle memory contemplate what I've been clinging too".
      Kata is not meant to be performed in a fight. It is q string of 1 and 2 hit maybe 3 hit combos strung together in instinct in the exact moment they are needed. Again we reach stage 2 of meditation. "I'm looking at you through the glass","I'm on the outside I'm looking in","you don't know my mind, you don't know my kind". Our experiences sound crazy to those that don't experience them and pointless to those that do no?
      However to reach empty mind vs quieting of the mind from kata, or separation of the mind through combat you must seek out the third. I have only found it in tai Kwon do, and this isn't one learned in the same way. It is one that can be induced by a master. I don't know how to or will even pretend to understand it. But seek out empty mind with tkd. It is the master that teaches it. It has to be gifted I guess?

  • @Nimno74
    @Nimno74 Год назад +7

    I'd love to see a followup video on this style. Perhaps a visit to a dojo that teaches it, or an interview with someone who has learned it. Anything.
    It sounds like it deserves all the attention and respect it can get.

  • @gyulamiklosi8810
    @gyulamiklosi8810 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the great presentation Jesse! Hope there are still followers of Motobu's practical style.

  • @fourscorpio
    @fourscorpio 3 года назад +24

    This is one of the best descriptions of Motobu that I've seen, Jesse-san! He definitely should have gotten more credit for his contributions -- I really didn't start learning about him in depth until the early 2000s, coincidentally with the rise of MMA. I think the movement towards practical karate has helped get his name out there more. I loved the part about "crossing hands" -- I believe that is the English translation for "kumite", if I'm not mistaken!

  • @luvlife2786
    @luvlife2786 3 года назад +4

    I'm amazed at how much info you have on karate. I feel like I'm in karate class101. It's fun to watch your videos and I look forward to them.Keep up the good work.

  • @joaopedrodfm979
    @joaopedrodfm979 Год назад

    huge thanks for you work here, great video and explanation

  • @bunjiphunter676
    @bunjiphunter676 2 года назад

    These little snippets of all different types of history is what makes you tube great. Well done young man👍

  • @rolandgdean
    @rolandgdean 3 года назад +19

    I love your history lessons...a lot. Great to see that even the oldest original masters were mixed martial artists. Traveling around and adding other styles and techniques to their own martial arts.

    • @trestres236
      @trestres236 3 года назад +1

      Debunks the whole "Bruce lee is the founder of mma"

    • @mikenuzzo3323
      @mikenuzzo3323 2 года назад +1

      Well jiu-jitsu was Japanese which Judo comes from Sports jiu jitsu. And when the Europeans the Dutch 12 tile and started knocking out the Muay Thai fighters so they got a little better with the guard. That separates Burmese boxing from Thai Muay Thai. I imagine at this point the Burmese do Muay Thai being Muay Thai boxing protecting their jaw from boxers

  • @donalmacthomais7584
    @donalmacthomais7584 3 года назад +5

    Jesse, this was a great story to hear. Always a learning experience every time I watch your videos.

  • @timblaylark5605
    @timblaylark5605 2 года назад +1

    Sensei Jesse thank you for this, it inspires me. As the my city has become more violent I've switched gears and become more self protection focused. This puts the kata second, now I have clear ideas and can avoid pitfalls.

  • @VitorCastelo
    @VitorCastelo Год назад

    A year after the post, but thank you Jesse for this piece of knowledge. Love your videos man, and hope you keep doing the good work. Wishing you the best. 🙏

  • @mikesteele9431
    @mikesteele9431 3 года назад +15

    From what I recall about the time with his son, he emphasized that here is no tuite in Motobu style. The royal family did have system of grappling though that preceded judo.

  • @jimducroiset1628
    @jimducroiset1628 3 года назад +6

    Thank you so much for this. I have been trying to shift some of my teaching to practical fight technique first and then see where and how kata fits in...its a very slow process and its easy to come off as disrespectful...which I try not too. This type of material really goes a long way to letting others see where and how all of these things can live in harmony with each other! I have made it a practice to show and recommend your videos so my students and instructors can learn more and possibly even question assumptions...Hmmm...

  • @rinzler9171
    @rinzler9171 3 года назад +1

    Seriously though I love your videos.
    Great knowledge and content. Worth a deep dive, as I am rusty with my pre-modrrn era karate history

  • @skiptrace1888
    @skiptrace1888 Год назад

    Great vid!. Thanx for your research and hard work in putting this together! I liked and subscribed! 😄😄😄

  • @juancarlos3350459
    @juancarlos3350459 3 года назад +16

    Great,
    I wanted you to explain this part of the Mobuto choki story.
    Thank you

  • @sultanali7148
    @sultanali7148 3 года назад +5

    Great video sensei.
    This video teaches us that every karate style is incomplete in some aspects a person can learn real karate only when he desires to learn it without thinking about styles. I learn shotokan karate but still I try to learn from different styles.

  • @user-mj5ws9qs1e
    @user-mj5ws9qs1e 7 месяцев назад

    Jesse great educational video man great work !!!!

  • @briangrimes4503
    @briangrimes4503 2 года назад

    What wonderful information you bring to light!! Thank you so much!

  • @marcodegiovanni3696
    @marcodegiovanni3696 3 года назад +21

    I really think old traditional martial arts master would appreciate MMA more than their own style as practice today... This story (wich I didn't know and I am always impressed about your martial culture) just confirm my earlier though

  • @djl6575
    @djl6575 3 года назад +10

    Regardless of Motobu's or other peoples opinions Shotokan is as effective as any other style what truly makes the difference is the individual applying the technique's and how much he or she believes in what they have been taught. Thanks for interesting story Jesse

  • @fumeokid
    @fumeokid 2 года назад

    Great video! Thanks for the info! Loved the Segal videos too!

  • @darque1860
    @darque1860 Год назад

    Damn. I love the karate nerd. Thank u jesse!! Awsome content brother!!

  • @triau7166
    @triau7166 3 года назад +11

    Thank you, Jesse Sensei, awesome story !!

  • @IronMartialArts
    @IronMartialArts 3 года назад +9

    Motobu was a straight up savage.

  • @minhducnguyen674
    @minhducnguyen674 3 года назад +38

    Google: Karate was meant for charater development and forging great human being, not necessarily fighters.
    Bing:

  • @SherlockDaHolmie
    @SherlockDaHolmie 2 года назад +3

    Thank you so much for this video Jesse. It helped influence my choice of Karate Dojo near me. They are heavily influenced by Motobu's philosophy and style.

  • @donaldduke2233
    @donaldduke2233 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for another great video. I always learn a lot from watching them. Amazon has Motobu's books, however they are still very expensive.

  • @devildog6776
    @devildog6776 3 года назад +5

    I love your lessons, thank you for sharing this knowledge with us, I regret that while a Marine, I spend a year in Okinawa, and I didn't take advantage of it.

  • @michaelneal7377
    @michaelneal7377 7 месяцев назад

    Thanks for uploading this video 😊

  • @OnlineRadioSchool
    @OnlineRadioSchool 7 месяцев назад

    Great video matey!

  • @ezebavaro
    @ezebavaro 3 года назад +4

    Super interesante! Me quedé con ganas de conocer más acerca del estilo de Choki Motobu.

  • @washingtonpiccardo4531
    @washingtonpiccardo4531 2 года назад +5

    Desde Uruguay ,Sud América, felicitaciones por su dedicación a la difusión del karate do y las artes marciales. Abrazo gde !!!! Exelente

  • @rb9998
    @rb9998 2 года назад

    Thank you for bringing these histories forward.

  • @theitineranthistorian2024
    @theitineranthistorian2024 2 года назад

    very informative, thanks for the breakdown from a historical standpoint

  • @abennett2783
    @abennett2783 2 года назад +18

    In the 70’s, I studied under Dirk Mosig for a short time, Shuri Ryu, USKA, and Motobu was mentioned in the history of that organization. Cool to see this.

  • @drjimjam1112
    @drjimjam1112 2 года назад +7

    I’ll never forget reading Funakoshi’s book. Excellent peak into the humble mind of a great master.

  • @alfredog.2889
    @alfredog.2889 Год назад

    Sensei Enkamp, ​​thank you for your videos, they are really educational!

  • @pm5266
    @pm5266 3 года назад

    So glad i found your channels, thats awesome content, for everyone who is Ingo martial Art👍

  • @chrisskywalker6079
    @chrisskywalker6079 3 года назад +13

    Well at the end, is not how good you are man, but how much people can get from you.

  • @sakismandratzis6353
    @sakismandratzis6353 3 года назад +3

    I've been really waiting for a long time for this video☺️ (you once gave a teaser in an other video)

  • @safreacts
    @safreacts 8 месяцев назад

    This was super interesting~ thanks for making this video Jesse! Greetings from Australia 🇦🇺

  • @obzy6685
    @obzy6685 2 года назад

    Love these karate docos
    Your the best at this jessie
    Keep ‘‘em coming

  • @gojuknuckles
    @gojuknuckles 3 года назад +4

    There’s a lesson on “balance” here I think eh? Great video and thanks for sharing this kind of history!

  • @YoukaiSlayer12
    @YoukaiSlayer12 3 года назад +4

    Thanks for including the social hierarchy & personality aspects of the two. As Gichin never liked sparring/or kumite, like some of the other Okinawan teachers, his son however Gigo was the opposite.

  • @yamaniyama5940
    @yamaniyama5940 7 месяцев назад

    Thanks for sharing Jesse!

  • @anthonyward8133
    @anthonyward8133 2 года назад

    This was your best vlog....by far. Thank you 😊

  • @bobbyalistor
    @bobbyalistor 3 года назад +12

    Damn this guys is like someone from Baki, travelling and challenging people while beating them at the same time

    • @zion6680
      @zion6680 3 года назад

      Well Motobe and Motobu is just one letter apart.

    • @the813knight3
      @the813knight3 Год назад

      Sounds like Goku to me

  • @davidhanna8029
    @davidhanna8029 2 года назад +5

    Sensei, as someone who reveres Gichin Funakoshi, I had to watch this confronting but educative video twice before I realised you were delivering Motobu's warped perspective on Funakoshi's teaching. As you rightly say, Funakoshi was focused on Karate as a means of character development not street fighting. I recall very clearly how a previously troubled teenager told me that one of Funakoshi's illustrative stories from "Karate-Do: My Way of Life" had helped him resolve a problem without fighting. By contrast, Motobu may have believed he had 'nothing left to prove', but his attitude and behaviour suggest that he had plenty more to learn.

    • @stuart5811
      @stuart5811 Год назад

      What was the original purpose of karate? It was a killing art not a way to enlightenment.

  • @YN-bz1je
    @YN-bz1je 2 года назад

    excellent video, with research and clear explanations!