A Nightmare on Elm Street 5: The DREAM CHILD (1989) Review | Freddy's Downfall
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Doc finally reviews the last #FreddyKrueger flick he's yet to cover: #NightmareonElmStreet: The Dream Child, where we Freddy become literally infantilized and quickly lose any luster he had left.
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Shout out to the dad in this movie, he goes through quite the character arch between the two movies from going to a disapproving alcoholic father to a really supportive and caring dad, it’s quite the transformation and a good use of Continuity
God bless him!🙏
He was SUCH A SWEETHEART when he came back, it got me in the feels ❤
I wanted to like your comment, but then I saw the number of likes and couldn't bring myself to ruin it.
Character arc? He has about three lines in both movies.
@@slaxxxer that's better than a shit ton of lines and no arch!
18:36 Apparently Mark turning into a comic has a narrative function to it. Mark has a fear of blood and when Freddy had him previously the second he bleed he woke up, thus by making Mark a comic that bleeds ink he avoids that possibility.
At least in this sequel Alice survived AGAIN making her one of the toughest heroines in horror movie history and would go on to play a key role on the Ash Vs Freddy Vs Jason comic book sequel.
Yeah, I don't know what Wolfula is talking about that she's not memorable.
@@StedeBonnetsCravat I guess he didn't know about her or that series at least.
shes my favorite of the whole franchise... ❤
Doesn't beat Tommy Jarvis though, he's survived three times
I mean..Freddy is who everyone talks about.@@StedeBonnetsCravat
“He makes Grogu look like a pile of puke!” My new favorite Dr Wolfula line EVER.
“You gotta start em early on the dew, folks” is mine lol
Mine is when he said the consumption of freddy was so romantic
Running a train on Freddy’s mom is definitely not a sentence I thought I’d finally hear!
😂 that was an entire fleet of trains
😂😂😂😂
So you've been waiting to hear that sentence? Sick!
Brah, she was a nun.
9:02 The writers must have thought making Freddy scared of his mother would somehow make people scared of him again.
Not really, it was just meant to add some type of relationship with the nun/Amanda character. The fact he hates her and is scared does add something to the overall character for the this specific film's themes of motherhood. I mean, if he used her spirit to come back, she can also try to defeat him by taking his energy at least temporarily. I never thought i was going to write something like this for a Nightmare On Elm Street film tho. Lol
It worked for Norman Bates!
The Obama line took me out 😂
Great review Doc!
What’s annoying about this is Freddy using one of his victims to give birth to him could’ve been a very terrifying concept, if the recent films weren’t so dumb.
There’s actually a webcomic on Webtoon called Counting Sheep which I think uses this horrifying concept to its fullest potential.
like my dad always said: "drink Fresca, it'll put hair on your hands"
There was an interesting Nightmare licensed comic mini-series in the early ‘90s , with a story featuring Alice and Jacob returning to Springwood after years away, Nancy’s ghost as a guardian angel in dreams, and some other fun plot elements rolled together.
I always hated how Alice’s part 5 friends never question her friends from part 4. Non of them ever asked what happened to them or even her brother. I assume 4 and 5 take place in the same high school and only a year later
Best thing that came of this is that Stephen Hopkins was a major contributor to the first season of 24... one of the best TV shows ever.. he also directed Toy Soldiers which is basically Die Hard in a private school..
What!!!!!! It’s not even Halloween season???
Thank you Dr. and happy AAAAAHHHHHLidays to everyone!
I honestly feel like ANOES 5 was the MOST nightmarish and surreal of the entire franchise. Not only the kills, but the sets and art direction alone were very creative, gothic and genuinely eerie!!
Can you review They Live? Ik you would do it justice.
The doctor reviewing freddy, jason or michael is peak youtube.
The "Superman 3" reference went over my head 🤔
Vera in Superman 3 got turned into a robot by a giant super computer. She had machine parts all over her like Dan.
The franchise went to shit after they killed off Nancy, as evidenced by the fact that there was never a good movie again until Heather Langenkamp was brought back for part 7
Blue's Clues: Murder Edition! Find the 3 clues, amd learn how to stop Freddy this time!
That demon child is me. I was born the week this movie came out
New Line Cinema: We’ve turned Freddy into a joke! We need to fix this!
Nightmare on Elm Street 5: BABY FREDDY!
The problem with the movie is the direction. They tried to do a more somber slower-paced more dramatic-focused women's issues movie. The direction of this movie was a mistake not in the idea of Freddy using a baby's dreams but in how it was executed. They tried to return the series to its darker roots putting Freddy more in the shadows decreasing his screen time and doing a lower body count. All of this was a mistake at the time because after 3 and 4 audiences wanted the Freddy show. At this point, the Audience wanted Freddy as the star like in 3 and 4. They didn't want less Freddy and a movie that focused on real-life female pregnancy issues. Had this movie kept the tone closer to 3 and 4 gave Freddy more screen time equal to part 4 and had more dream kills this movie would have been a bigger hit. They learned from their mistake with this one and fixed it in Freddy's Dead. Now Freddy Dead is a badly written movie but it is more fun and more entertaining and gave audiences at the time what they wanted which is why it did better. This movie could have kept the exact same plot and idea and it would have worked if they just made the movie more fun like 3 and 4.
I'm glad you were rating this one on the Jurassic Park Kid Scale
I just want to state my appreciation for Cyd continuing to run the channel independently and without corporate sponsorships even after all these years. Relying exclusively on Patreon pledges and one-time viewer donations can be a hard way to completely finance a channel, but it keeps the content pure.
Anybody curious if Freddy Krueger could’ve gone the Chucky path of having a partner in crime like a Bride of Freddy or an actual evil child of Freddy? Art the Clown has The Little Pale Girl and probably in the upcoming Terrifier 3 with Victoria Heyes being a potential Bride of Terrifier. I think some horror villains can work having partners in crime and dynamic evil couple duos. It just depends on execution I suppose.
A child could work, but Freddy would probably get pissed if his partner in crime kept stealing the glory.
E.g. when Jason steals one of his kills in Freddy Vs. Jason.
@@x-ScaryBerry-x yeah. Lol But I bet a Freddy Krueger like child minion probably would know not to piss off his own boss, unlike Jason who was tricked into believing Freddy was his mom because Freddy was in disguise, and went too far into the killing spree. I wonder if there was a miscommunication where Freddy wasn’t clear enough that Jason had killed enough. I don’t know if Jason’s body was possessed because he seemed like a free agent, and if not then how was Freddy communicating with him when he wasn’t asleep?! 🤷♂️ It’s just a minor plot hole. But yeah, I think a child minion willingly becoming evil and being Freddy’s accomplice could work. Like imagine a young infant being accidentally left in a burning building and dying, and Freddy meeting his soul in the dream world telling him he can help him have revenge on the teens of Springwood since he’s starting to be pretty lonely only doing the killings by himself. It wouldn’t be a hard set up. Maybe the infant could even have a teen sibling like an older sister that was indirectly responsible for having him burned to death, and him wanting revenge on her too! Many possibilities.
No.
These days, Freddy could partner with a social media influencer who creates ASMR videos.
@@markdubovec5172 lol 😝
You should review Dreamscape (1984) someday. It's basically Inception before Inception. It was actually released a couple of months before the first Nightmare on Elm Street movie.
Ahhh, Doctor Wolfula and franchise horror is like a hot bowl of soup!
I rewatched all the nightmare on elm street movies last Halloween and honestly the sequels to nightmare are way better than most horror movie sequels at least Freddy is fun as hell anytime he’s on screen
So would you rather consider this the third and final installment of the “Dream” trilogy or the second and final part of the “Alice” duology? Freddy’s Dead is a completely standalone anthology, same with Freddy’s Revenge which happened before Dream Warriors. So 3,4,5 are the most connected to each other in the original film series of ANOES!
I'm positive that part 2 is canon to the rest of the series.
In fact, up until "Wes Cravens New Nightmare", they're ALL part of the same timeline/canon... and even some after WCNN.
One of the the biggest pieces of evidence which supports this is a line from part 6 said directly by Freddy, where he lists the ways he has been killed in several of the previous films... including "burning me"... and the only film in which he was ultimately defeated by fire is "Freddys Revenge".
Then of course, we have Nancy's diary/former house both playing such a key role in that very same film... Then there's the time jump between part 1 and part 3 being the same in the films as it was in real life time... then Nancy in parts 1 and 3... Also there's Kristen, Kincaid, Joey, and Alice being in parts 3 and 4... then Alice being in parts 4 and 5... and the Sister Mary Helena/Amanda Krueger storyline which spanned parts 3, 4, and 5... the list could go on and on.
Not to mention that every film either takes place entirely in, or is focused around the town of Springwood.
The official canon timeline for ANoES is
1: A Nightmare on Elm St.
2: A Nightmare on Elm St. part 2: Freddys Revenge
3: A Nightmare on Elm St. part 3: Dream Warriors
4: A Nightmare on Elm St. part 4: The Dream Master
5: A Nightmare on Elm St. part 5: The Dream Child
6: Freddy's Dead: The Final Nightmare
7: Jason goes to Hell: The Final Friday (Cameo at the very end, glove and laugh only... but it is confirmed as canon)
8: Freddy vs. Jason
The only film which actually stands on its own in a canonical sense is "Wes Cravens New Nightmare". Hell, the demon in that film isn't even Fred Krueger... Just an ancient demon that decided it wanted to LOOK like him.
Hope this helos end the confusion you seem to be experiencing with the ANoES timeline... Hell, Friday the 13th, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and Halloween aren't much better in regards to convoluted, confusing timelines!
@@thisisnotachannel I didn’t say 2 and 6 were not canon. I was saying they are standalone stories set in the same continuity.
ANOES Timeline(s):
Original Series: 1,2,3,4,5,6, and FVJ
Alternate Universe: New Nightmare
Remake Continuity: ANOES 2010
@@thisisnotachannel Part 2 is loose canon meaning it is part of the series but the movies before and after choose to actively ignore it. Dream Warriors on purpose chose to actively ignore the continuity and story set up in part 2 because it got bad reviews and bad reactions from audiences.
I feel like if they waited every 2-3 years and got the right writers and directors with the best ideas the series could of been much better and more than likely have better longevity but they only saw dollar signs so they ran it into the ground quickly. Sad.
It needed that Tales from the Crypt treatment so did Friday the 13th series
Part 5 holds the distinction of being the only Nightmare film to be released on VHS completely uncut. Ironically, the dvd release uses the edited theatrical release.
976-EVIL (1988) did the same thing. Uncut VHS, theatrical release for the DVD, Blu-ray with both!
I do like that Skeletorcycle 💀🛵
I saw this movie when I was in kindergarten! I believe Wes Craven's New Nightmare had just come out around that time!
Ughhh...hate it when the MPAA ruins everything. Awesome video!
You're one of the best horror youtubers Doc, you really deserve more views
As a Fred Head I really think this film is underrated. It had a unique Gothic aesthetic w/some great looking shots. I also thought the premise was unique, despite the execution being less than stellar... Also, the Dan motorcycle death UNCUT, is the Gnarliest, violent, metal death in the series...
Now that you have this out of the way, I hope you'll cover Wes Craven's New Nightmare sometime! I find that one's a bit overlooked but it might be my personal favorite of the series. Prolly has my favorite Freddy look, too.
Would you say they overexplained Freddy’s jump to the real world by saying it wasn’t actually Freddy but instead an evil supernatural entity that gets trapped in storytelling, or is your interpretation that it was merely the characters’ theory and it’s still pretty open ended and we the audience can always ponder and debate the reasoning for the events of New Nightmare ourselves? Maybe it’s not actually Freddy but instead “The Entity” character Wes Craven described just cosplaying, or maybe it’s a supernatural type artificial intelligence that became self away and can manipulate reality and also manifested a real version of Freddy Krueger that lets escape from the fictional film series, or it’s really that meta and it’s actually Freddy Krueger from the movies who finds out he’s a movie character and is pissed Hollywood let him lose constantly over and over and wants payback by invading our world starting with attacking the filmmakers and everybody involved with the making of the films. Lol
@@ParkerCS2 honestly maybe the reason I like that movie so much is all those theories have merit. I like looking at it as Wes’s reaction to his monster developing a life of his own, and realizing that for all he created Freddy that nobody can control their creations forever, they grow and mutate and change sometimes beyond recognition. Freddy just being another monster archetype from the dawn of humanity’s storytelling tradition is kinda true that way.
@@Replicaate yeah, the movie is really cool for bringing up ideas like that as well as the cool dream/nightmare scenes and also the ancient castle lair at the end of the movie is an unique dimension for this new version of Freddy Krueger to come from. And yes, all the theories I mentioned have merit as the human mind can come up with many scary reasons and ways Freddy isn’t just a fictional character anymore since it’s a horror movie. Also, the fictional version of Wes is just as confused as Heather and is trying to find a “rational” explanation why his creation is actually real and causing the mayhem in the film. Which may be the truth, or just his theory. Who really knows. 🤷♂️ Point is, New Nightmare is the second best sequel behind 3, although imo I never really understood the overhyped Dream Warriors as I felt kinda disappointed by it personally. New Nightmare is the better sequel quality and scale wise, but that’s just my opinion. I thought Dream Warriors wasn’t a big as it was hyped up to be. Not a bad movie by any means, but just a disappointment imo!
Did Doc get hand surgery again? Must be expensive. Good thing he has such an amazing sponsor!
Also, Kamen Rider reference!
Oh my God acid wash was a thing in 1989, that will haunt me tonight. I only remember the motorcycle, and the loony bang from this movie, but you really classed it up for us. Thanks Doctor Wolfula!
I love Freddy Krueger as a concept, character and performance. But I don't think any of the movies have ever lived up to the potential of the character. It's frustrating. At least there are individual scenes that are fantastic.
This is my second least favorite Freddy film behind Freddy's Dead. Great review Doc!
I remember the GPK card. I collected the cards and took the sticker book to school. My 3rd grade teacher saw I had it and flipped out. Had an emergency meeting with my mom and never looked at me the same again lol
Dude I was literally kid when I found your channel first comin up in 2015 or 16 I believe when I was in 6th or 7th grade, it’s wild now that I’m 22 and I’m still watching
The Greta and Dan death scenes are uncut on the VHS and Laserdisc. someone at new line was asked why they haven't re-released the uncut version and someone at the company said it was cause of "lack of fan interest" which is a lie.
Wolfula: "Look, Ghoulash! I have a son."
Ghoulash: "Sir, it's that the baby on milk carton in the refrigerator?"
Wolfula: "Here's some Wednesday Pancakes for the baby."
Nightmare 5. The only one in the franchise that is a lifetime movie. I still like it though. It's got one of my favorite deaths involving the comic book guy.
I've been waiting a long time for this moment
Fun Fact The guy in opening credits is the same guy who
played super Freddy
This and 2 were my favourite Elm Street movies on my first watch… I cringe at that
And I cringe harder when I thought the original and 3 were overrated
I’m so glad I gave the series a rewatch and formed a better opinion
Man this gives me old school dr wolfula vibes I remember being like 10 watching the Texas chain saw massacre reviews just turned 22 yesterday crazy how time flys lol
It's personally not one of my favorite sequels, but of course Robert Englund as Freddy steals the entire movie! In fact, he's the only reason why I would recommend watching the other sequels, if only for him. In this one movie, he has tons and tons of one liners! And it never stops lol they're corny as hell but so memorable! Decent film, but watch it for Freddy!
My mom read me a Freddy Krueger novelization when I was a child and it gave me nightmares and I had to sleep with the light on for a while. It was a book for kids, too. I think it was a novelization of the first movie.
Standalone sequels: A Nightmare on Elm Street 2, 6, and FvJ
Overarching sequels: A Nightmare on Elm Street 1, 3, 4, and 5
Not canon: New Nightmare and A Nightmare on Elm Street (2010 Remake)
It wasn't until watching this video right now that I learned that Jacob was played by the same kid who play the "Boy or Girl" from JP1 (reference to that film's Rifftrax).
"the one thing scarier than Freddy a nun" 😂😅😅😆 good one Doc
The Dream Master Wasn't Just The Most Successful And A True Favorite Of Mine As Well As Many Others It Was The Nightmare That Got The Most TV Time With Roseanne And The Golden Girls A Nightmare 4 Gave Us Really Great Characters Kills One Liners Cinematography Color Palette Editing Directing Asthetics Oh And Great Music Soundtrack Score ❤🎉😮😊
I love this movie for no reason tbh
It's so dumb and I love it
I was wondering where Doc went, I guess Wolfulites hibernate in the winter
That's why they have to gorge themselves during AHHHCHtober.
I used to think of this one as more gooofy but now I can see how they tried to make it darker. I enjoy 3,4,5 as a “dream” trilogy
Yeah. However, I wish the dream warriors weren’t anti climatically killed off in 4 making their survival pointless in 3. 4 should’ve just shifted to Alice and her friends and not bother with Kirsten Joey and Kincaid especially since Patricia didn’t come back anyway and Tuesday is unrecognizable as Kirsten. Nightmare 2 was already a prior standalone sequel with entirely new characters so they should’ve just had that with 4 as well.
Nightmare on Elm Street Timeline(s):
Original Series:
A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984)
A Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy’s Revenge
A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors
A Nightmare on Elm Street 4: The Dream Master
A Nightmare on Elm Street 5: The Dream Child
Freddy’s Dead: The Final Nightmare
Freddy VS. Jason
Remake:
A Nightmare on Elm Street (2010)
Non-Canon:
Wes Craven’s New Nightmare
I suppose we'll classify Freddy's Nightmares as non-canon or perhaps soft canon?
@@RoosterMontgomery I’ve never watched it. All I know is that’s it’s anthology and doesn’t have a narrative so I didn’t include it
@@ParkerCS2 I recently watched it on Tubi, about 3/4, all the Freddy episodes of course. It felt like it could have taken place between the sequels, perhaps between Part 3-5 so by Freddy's Dead, he's... dead before Freddy Vs Jason.
Deeply excited to watch, thanks as always!
Oh hey, my parents have a chair just like that one!
Love it, well dissected as always (just like Freddy dissects his victims in dreamland….mmm delicious)
Yvonne was amazing she was a nurse and a diver that's totally more than one dimensional, it's like... two dimensions. Seriously though, I loved Kelly Jo Minter in this , People Under the Stairs and Popcorn. One of those unsung but always adorable characters.
Unborn babies do dream! Just saw the OBGYN and they have done studies
Why would they not? A week old fetus though?!
@@headlessspaceman5681 I guess it’s weird for a being that doesn’t know anything having dreams. But yeah a week pregnant probably not lol
As a Nightmare on Elm St fan, this is literally the only movie I never finished
You are missing a "see" in your description, love your channel
Dr. Wolfula making a Kamen Rider joke was not in my 2024 bingo card, but hey, Kamen Rider mentioned!!
Always loved this one growing up. It’s a bit underrated in the franchise to me anyway.
Shout out to dr filthula!
As a massive horror fan and Freddy being my favorite slasher I personally think dream warriors, and dream master are the two best of the original 6 movies.
Butch lesbian Carmen San Diego lmaooooo I will never not think of that when I see Yvonne again , great shit Doc
Its funny that this movie had so few deaths when Jason Takes Manhattan had what seems like dozens of kills
The one thing I remember most about this movie is what you mentioned at the beginning. By 1989 he had become more comedic than scary,and many gore hounds and horror fans hated this. I also remember reading Fangoria at the time and in the articles about part 5 the director promised Freddy would return to being this sinister,dark monster. Well...while the film itself was a bit darker and more mature than part 4,Freddy was still a freakin' goofball. There were some good moments,mainly Dan's death,overall the movie was a letdown.
Nothing but continued excellence from the Doc! Thanks for the review! 🤘
I'm thinking the guy who was Robert Englund sans makeup during the Amanda grape scene was the one who actually produced Freddy K., this was the worst one, at least in Part 2 Freddy was still dark.
Greta’s death is the most screwed up death in the franchise. Freddy feeds her to herself. So fucked up. Freddy really is a bastard (son of 100 maniacs)
I think i actually preferred "Dream Child" to "Dream Master".
Yep, same! I don't know why but part V just felt like it had more heart. Don't get me wrong I like Dream Master too but Dream Child just feels more genuine to me
Fair, but also not a high bar to jump.
Dan's Death by being turned into a 90s body-horror cyborg is amazing and horrific. Makes me think of something like Spawn.
Its otherwise not a bloody film, more PG-13 than anything.
Nightmare of Elm Street got weird in Parts 3, 4, 5. Together they could be called the "Dream Trilogy". They have the most continuity between them and have similar plots. If anything it caused a kind of rot as each time they killed Freddy it would be clear he's just on hold.
I forget if the Doctor Covered it yet but Freddy's Dead was a quick close to the book of Freddy. That one didnt run out of ideas, but just skipped a lot to setup a crossover that took 12 years to make.
While Robert Englund may be one of the, if not the most well known Slashed film actor, they ran the Nightmare of Elm Street Franchise into the ground.
Can somebody answer this question for me: Does Freddy need his victims to fear him to hurt and kill their avatars in the Dream World? Nancy in 3 got stabbed by Freddy but she wasn’t afraid of him and he didn’t even try to surprise scare her first by turning back into himself from his disguise as her dad before stabbing her. It was specifically stated in 1 that you have to give Freddy fear energy similar to Pennywise in order for him to hurt your body. IDK the logistics so can someone in the comments give me the rundown on the rules?
Almost every installment had a different development team. Producer Bob Shaye was the only constant behind the scenes, and he didn't really care about weaving sone larger narrative. He didn't care that the sequels were consistent, as long as tgere would at least _be_ sequels.
@@DistractedGlobeGuy ok. But answer this: Is the dream world implied in the Elm Street universe to be like a parallel universe rather than dreams just being in your head and are just flashing thoughts that scramble through your mind and create narratives, and you in the dreams are an avatar that can explore it, and it usually reflects what location you are in in real life except for some exceptions, and your mental avatar is basically your consciousness/soul and within the dream world you are just as with free will as real life but usually aren’t aware you’re dreaming unless you are lucid?
@@ParkerCS2it's implied to be a vehicle for creative VFX setpieces unfortunately.
These are all great questions that none of the writers really concerned themselves with, and _could_ have been explored in the remake, if only anybody involved in that bomb had cared half as much as the viewers.
@@DistractedGlobeGuy the remake was indeed bad. But the last problem with that movie was Jacke Earl Haley. He was just given a terrible script and the story direction they went with his version was bad. Also, that cgi face cheek was garbage.
There is no logistics, 80's horrors were mainly focusing of the monster being scary and how many horny teens will die.
The MPAA was working hard to destroy the Friday the 13th series and nightmare on elm street series
23:16 Nightmare 5 in a nutshell
Thank you Doc! I needed a video from you today. Excellent as always!
The film where the series jumped the shark. Never recovered from it.
Part 6 also has a power glove and bus driving Freddy and sperm shaped dream demons. Don’t forget that too!
No this film is not where the series jumped the shark that nightmare award goes to Freddy dead
@@henrymockingbird9645 exactly
@@henrymockingbird9645 Freddy killed the main series. But this was the point it went from fun to dumb. Half the movie Freddy isn’t scary cause he’s running away from mommy.
@@BoyNamedSue4 at least Freddy somewhat intimidating in this movie in Freddy dead he doing stupid shit like parading the wicked with of the west and and killing somebody with a power glove
“Super Freddy” was more like The Shadow, in terms of resembling classic superheroes.
Terrifier 2 did a better job with a child accomplice than Nightmare 5! The Little Pale Girl is a fun evil character as she and Art the Clown have a funny relationship and they are a dynamic duo, and it almost makes it cute. 2 horror villains becoming friends and partners in crime, and despite it coming out of nowhere we don’t question it. They should’ve done something similar instead of Jacob being Alice’s unborn son he’s an evil spirit of a child that tragically died in a fire accident being left by mistake inside a burning building, and him teaming up with Freddy in the Dream world to get payback and willing to have Freddy teach him how to be like him. Would’ve made a better movie.
❤ agreed but T2 was independent and could get away with so much more.. and was also a better movie! All that said the Doc reviewing anything is awesome
They should've edited out most of his corny one liners and rethought that MC Escher moment towards the end. It was already done better in Labyrinth. 'Going up the stairs and going down the stairs and going up the sideways stairs.' - MC Escher. Aside from that, I liked it enough to buy a vhs unedited copy of it.
I could be wrong, but I believe part 3 is the favorite of the majority of fans.
A Nightmare on Elm Street 1, 3, New Nightmare, and Freddy VS Jason are the fan favorites!
The problem with the movie is the direction. They tried to do a more somber slower-paced more dramatic-focused women's issues movie. The direction of this movie was a mistake not in the idea of Freddy using a baby's dreams but in how it was executed. They tried to return the series to its darker roots putting Freddy more in the shadows decreasing his screen time and doing a lower body count. All of this was a mistake at the time because after 3 and 4 audiences wanted the Freddy show. At this point, the Audience wanted Freddy as the star like in 3 and 4. They didn't want less Freddy and a movie that focused on real-life female pregnancy issues. Had this movie kept the tone closer to 3 and 4 gave Freddy more screen time equal to part 4 and had more dream kills this movie would have been a bigger hit. They learned from their mistake with this one and fixed it in Freddy's Dead. Now Freddy Dead is a badly written movie but it is more fun and more entertaining and gave audiences at the time what they wanted which is why it did better. This movie could have kept the exact same plot and idea and it would have worked if they just made the movie more fun like 3 and 4.
Also Freddy having an evil child sidekick could’ve also been cool had it been executed well too just like in Terrifier 2 with The Little Pale Girl being Art’s accomplice. I think a good direction for a Jacob type character is if he was a infant that accidentally was killed by being left in a burning building, and when his spirit entered the dream world Freddy offers to help him get vengeance by teaching him how to slice and dice teens as teenagers got the survive whereas he an innocent child was left to the wolves quote on quote, and Freddy becomes his mentor because Freddy is starting to get lonely and bored only doing killings by himself and wants a protege and apprentice to have fun with. Maybe also have the evil kid be burnt too with a similar face to Freddy, and maybe part of his motivation for killing teens is that he himself had a teen older sister that indirectly was responsible for his death and could’ve had a good conflict with this sibling who made a horrible mistake like leaving the house to hang out with a boyfriend for a while instead of staying to babysit her infant brother, and accidentally leaving the stove on or something to result in the chain of events. Also, the film could have a similar tone to Bride of Chucky where it’s campy enough without being too over the top and too comedic.
Wolfula's hands tell their own story 🧤
I feel like one of the only shooters for this film. And boy oh boy wait until you hear about my undying love of Freddy's Dead!
Dream Child has some of the most potent atmosphere and creative set and art direction of the entire franchise. The amped up gothic aesthetic just REALLY hits on my horror pleasure centers. It just looks so damn good!
It's also a little meaner and little nastier than given credit for. The "Joker Freddy" schtick is starting to feel unbalanced for sure, but its offset by an underrated cast of characters that feel like real friends who really like and care for each other - which I think has been the underrated link of this franchise. I think every film in the main series has some of the best and most likeable teen characters of any slasher franchise. For me to actively care about the next set of victims in the 5th film of a slasher franchise you gotta be doing something above the norm.
The Dream Child rules.
8:54 has me dying LOL!
I would be interested to see your take on Primer
I was pretty disappointed with this one after watching it in theaters and unfortunately my opinion hasn't really changed with numerous re-watches, but at the same time I can't fully blame director Stephen Hopkins (Predator 2, Lost In Space, The Ghost & The Darkness) as the dude was stretched RIDICULOUSLY thin during filming since he had the incredibly difficult task of trying to get this movie out in a VERY short amount of time. There were scenes where the cast had to literally direct themselves as Stephen couldn't be on set and had to attend to other aspects of the film. Visually though I really do think it's one of the best of the series.
Freddy is the GOAT, and even lesser Nightmare On Elm Street movies are far better than anything with boring Michael Myers or Jason.
Love the Wolfulair redeco
Doctor Wolfula knows who Kamen Rider is? I am impressed.
HOLY SHIT, YOU'RE A KAMEN RIDER FAN, HECK YEAH, you just earned a sub
You know what I find frustrating about most of the Nightmare sequels? That they have incredible ideas for stories that could've been REALLY disturbing as well as scary, just like the first film was. But they could never seem to resist making Freddy as ultra-campy and goofy as possible, or making the characters in them as blatantly stock and tropey as can be, both of which often play to the detriment of those premises and themes. This film, in my opinion, is probably THE most egregious example of this on both counts.
_Freddy's Revenge_ didn't do either of those things. Its only real problem was that it was made on a much lower budget than the first, so the effects look goofy at times.
I’m glad nothing major has changed
Can you do a review on....
1. Terror Tract (2000)
2. The Call (2020) with Tobin Bell
They sound like films you would review